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Jeopardy IBM Challenge
« on: 18 February 2011, 04:02:33 »
Either it's Brainiac downloaded onto an IBM or we've achieved near-artificial intelligence. IBM's super intelligent supercomputer mopped the floor with two Jeopardy champions with seemingly no effort. It really took over in the second segment of the show, watch here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHhDLUVAtqU&feature=topvideos

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Re: Jeopardy IBM Challenge
« Reply #1 on: 18 February 2011, 04:09:17 »
Either it's Brainiac downloaded onto an IBM or we've achieved near-artificial intelligence. IBM's super intelligent supercomputer mopped the floor with two Jeopardy champions with seemingly no effort. It really took over in the second segment of the show, watch here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHhDLUVAtqU&feature=topvideos

You should have seen it on Conan too. ;D

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Re: Jeopardy IBM Challenge
« Reply #2 on: 18 February 2011, 12:49:24 »
I saw the first half of the first episode. Then, fearing the robot apocalypse, I hid under my couch, which is a remarkable fear considering it has an inch of space available.

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« Reply #3 on: 18 February 2011, 13:36:07 »


  I liked the last question posed- it's the only part I've seen (youtube).  Asked what U.S City airport is named after a WWII hero (or something) and it replied "Toronto"

  It obviously loves our maple syrup, beaver hugging, hockey playing nation  [rockon]
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Re: Jeopardy IBM Challenge
« Reply #4 on: 18 February 2011, 13:43:46 »
"Ken Jennings. What does my @$$ taste like"

Artificial inteligence? no, more like witty handlers, and major powerful search system and database.  It might be able to beat me at Jeopardy, but I can still take it in karate
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« Reply #5 on: 18 February 2011, 14:11:30 »
I, for one, welcome our new trivia-spouting overlord. 

If IBM could build a computer that combined the trivia-searching ability and natural language comprehension of Watson with the sheer possibility crunching capacity of the latest Deep Blue model, what would they get?
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« Reply #6 on: 18 February 2011, 16:07:15 »
I, for one, welcome our new trivia-spouting overlord. 

If IBM could build a computer that combined the trivia-searching ability and natural language comprehension of Watson with the sheer possibility crunching capacity of the latest Deep Blue model, what would they get?

Skynet?
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Re: Jeopardy IBM Challenge
« Reply #7 on: 18 February 2011, 16:31:23 »
Hooking it up to Google would be pretty fascinating. It would be able to cover questions ranging from what my favorite Mech is to what date my favorite podcaster had to get a pus line installed to deal with an infection.

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Re: Jeopardy IBM Challenge
« Reply #8 on: 18 February 2011, 16:53:49 »
Hooking it up to Google would be pretty fascinating. It would be able to cover questions ranging from what my favorite Mech is to what date my favorite podcaster had to get a pus line installed to deal with an infection.

Why do I hear the Terminator theme playing as I read that? ???
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« Reply #9 on: 18 February 2011, 16:56:48 »
because it's on your MP3 playlist?
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« Reply #10 on: 18 February 2011, 17:35:50 »
I loved Ken's quote "I for one welcome our computer overlords"
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« Reply #11 on: 18 February 2011, 19:16:49 »
"Ken Jennings. What does my @$$ taste like"

Artificial inteligence? no, more like witty handlers, and major powerful search system and database.  It might be able to beat me at Jeopardy, but I can still take it in karate

That thing can probably download a Bruce Lee program so fast it'll make your head spin.

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« Reply #12 on: 18 February 2011, 19:19:14 »
Yes, but does it have hands and feet? Knowing everything and being able to use it are where computers are still inferior. Though the Japanese sex industry is working to fix that
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« Reply #13 on: 18 February 2011, 19:44:08 »
Human language is impossibly complex. And Jeopardy takes full advantage of word play in innuendo. So first he computer has to figure out what the question truly is looking for then  search its database for the correct information. I saw a Nova special about the "Watson" but missed the episodes. Its a learning machine, at first the machine was crappy at the game. Took forever to "teach" it to play that well. It help "Watson" lean they team created a replica of the Jeopardy stage and hired a real host and it played against human players over and over.

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« Reply #14 on: 18 February 2011, 21:31:55 »
So Watson is a very well-evolved neural network, then?  I wonder if Watson's software can be ported to other applications to take it's language skill and directly apply it to less 'trivial' applications?  Also, I wonder if Watson could provide an architecture for neural networks for other purposes.  Skynet might not be that far off of a guess.
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« Reply #16 on: 18 February 2011, 23:31:17 »
So Watson is a very well-evolved neural network, then? I wonder if Watson's software can be ported to other applications to take it's language skill and directly apply it to less 'trivial' applications?

That's actually a large part of why they did it. Jeopardy was just a test case.
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Re: Jeopardy IBM Challenge
« Reply #17 on: 19 February 2011, 00:20:45 »
What I want to know is whether or not that robot was able to buzz in instantly. If it was, I think it had an extremely unfair advantage.

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« Reply #18 on: 19 February 2011, 00:32:33 »
not instantly, but, as I understand it, it was able to send a signal as soon as it came up with a reasonable match. If you watch the episodes, you can see the other two getting quite frustrated because it could buzz in faster then they did on many ocassions.a ahlf second signal delay could have been a major game changer.
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« Reply #19 on: 19 February 2011, 00:35:54 »
not instantly, but, as I understand it, it was able to send a signal as soon as it came up with a reasonable match. If you watch the episodes, you can see the other two getting quite frustrated because it could buzz in faster then they did on many ocassions.a ahlf second signal delay could have been a major game changer.

I think they should have averaged Brad and Ken's response times and made that Watson's average response time.

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« Reply #20 on: 19 February 2011, 01:43:36 »
Or at least the normal human delay of thought to movement of thumb.

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« Reply #21 on: 19 February 2011, 02:47:48 »
I think I read that future Watsons will actually aim to be useful.  One noted occupation was playing the role of House, which is to say making medical diagnoses, which seems like a role it would be good at.
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« Reply #22 on: 19 February 2011, 03:13:52 »
It takes time to process questions when they are read aloud to you. The program seemed to not have that same limitation. It had an answer within the moment Trebek stopped reading.

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« Reply #23 on: 19 February 2011, 09:24:18 »
So do most folks.  Watch day 3 of the challenge and you'll see folks, especially Ken, jump in before Watson plenty of times.  He's hooked up to a mechanical actuator that presses a standard jeopardy buzzer no faster than the split-second thumbflick required by a human being for just that reason.
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« Reply #24 on: 19 February 2011, 12:57:57 »
yep. his search engine is just a little faster then Ken's
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« Reply #25 on: 19 February 2011, 13:02:51 »
I saw on TV that Watson was given three possible responses, i.e. multiple choice, from which Watson could further narrow it down using search capacities.  Multiple choice for the computer player (but not the two human players) makes it very unfair.
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« Reply #26 on: 19 February 2011, 13:11:02 »
I don't think they where multiple choice. because if you read some of the answers, they are very wrong. I think his search and comparison program pulled out of his datbanks the three answers that came back the most likely from his search and picked the one that was the highest.
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Re: Jeopardy IBM Challenge
« Reply #27 on: 19 February 2011, 13:16:14 »
Yes, but does it have hands and feet? Knowing everything and being able to use it are where computers are still inferior. Though the Japanese sex industry is working to fix that
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« Reply #28 on: 19 February 2011, 16:29:47 »
So Watson is a very well-evolved neural network, then?  I wonder if Watson's software can be ported to other applications to take it's language skill and directly apply it to less 'trivial' applications?  Also, I wonder if Watson could provide an architecture for neural networks for other purposes.  Skynet might not be that far off of a guess.

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« Reply #29 on: 19 February 2011, 16:41:57 »
there just about there already

I've seen the robotics boys at my IEEE that can make some pretty sophisticated machines with multiple levels of articulation. They're capable of complex series motions. If they can make something as intelligent with a learning capacity as Watson I wouldn't be surprised if these things could end up teaching at dojos soon.

 

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