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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #480 on: 03 April 2018, 07:01:40 »
There's a reason my planned IV Legio group includes a full Century of Karnovs. Four birds means hauling a Century of foot troops and two of jump, with a rocket model as escort. :)
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #481 on: 03 April 2018, 17:07:21 »
Have you thought of using the Upgraded 3055 Karnov, slower but carries more and adds a MG per side?

I just thought of this: running three Prowler SW and two Prowler Support. 20 and 22 PV each.

Giving me 32 tons of Infantry spread out...

This a better choice than the Heavy APC / Galleon or as the support Century to it?

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #482 on: 03 April 2018, 18:30:16 »
Have you thought of using the Upgraded 3055 Karnov, slower but carries more and adds a MG per side?

That's my default. The infantry complement I described won't fit in four of the original model.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #483 on: 12 April 2018, 20:23:49 »
I need a Recon / Light Assualt Maniple... anyone got a comeback that I could piggy off?

Werido, you should have one... want to keep the BV / PV low no more than 3500 BV / 100 PV total.

Wanting 5/8 + with a lot of daka if possible.

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #484 on: 15 April 2018, 10:10:58 »
'Mechs or Combined arms?


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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #485 on: 17 April 2018, 15:23:50 »
Try both Mech and tank...maybe some BA thrown in?

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #486 on: 19 April 2018, 10:19:42 »
You may want to adapt it a bit but I sometimes play with a Maniple consisting of a century made up of of 2 Gladii, 2 Marauders plus a Gladius II while the other Century consists of Mechs only: Firestarter M4, Icarus 2S, Gladiator 5R, Stinger 3P, Vulcan 5Sr.

The BA can hitch a ride on the Mechs or the tanks and while I usually prefer more LRMs in my Maniples the ACs, PPCs and Plasma rifle offer quite a punch for a unit like this.

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #487 on: 19 April 2018, 22:17:22 »
2 Gladii, 2 Marauders plus a Gladius II

What about a JagerMech JM6-H, a pair of Whitworth WTH-1H and a pair of Centurion CN9-H with those hovers and BA combo?

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #488 on: 20 April 2018, 07:07:30 »
I like that, the Jager 6-H has served me very well. Give them RL hell!
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #489 on: 20 April 2018, 12:06:35 »
Yep,  JagerMech is very good indeed- give your selection a try. Looks good!

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #490 on: 20 April 2018, 18:45:11 »
I had somebody try to bum rush a 6H Jaegermech figuring that it would be vunerable at short range. That worked out well for them
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #491 on: 20 April 2018, 19:27:21 »
I had somebody try to bum rush a 6H Jaegermech figuring that it would be vunerable at short range. That worked out well for them

LOL I had Mad Cat do just that. On the way in the player decided to shot at the more "dangerous mechs" once he was at point blank it was 90 RLs away. I shutdown but the Mad Cat was destroyed . >:D
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #492 on: 04 May 2018, 20:34:36 »
https://www.4shared.com/photo/9XRAjcxHfi/Periferia_1_Edicion.html
 From what is read there, I see no impediment that the Marian Hegemony manufacture Battlemech and even quietly could manufacture mechs of RWR origin, such as Phoenix or Rampage or other mechs that the RWR manufactured

Because the Marian Hegemony can not do retro-engineering, find Blueprints or directly find the factory directly
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #493 on: 04 May 2018, 20:52:40 »
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10215922844813091&set=gm.184784772171060&type=3&ifg=1

 From what is read there, I see no impediment that the Marian Hegemony manufacture Battlemech and even quietly could manufacture mechs of RWR origin, such as Phoenix or Rampage or other mechs that the RWR manufactured

Because the Marian Hegemony can not do retro-engineering, find Blueprints or directly find the factory directly

Image of what Adacas is comenting on:

screencap of the MW RPG 1ed concerning the ATC and Alphard deleted. Will do a sumary tomorrow. Sorry, did not know that did count as a Rule 10 violation.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #494 on: 04 May 2018, 21:02:47 »
Thanks, I can not get the image of what went up, but I think it is very clear about the topic, Factory, Mechs and possible origin

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #495 on: 04 May 2018, 21:48:43 »
Hey, who remembers Rule 10 of this forum? C:-)
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #496 on: 05 May 2018, 11:54:52 »
Hey, who remembers Rule 10 of this forum? C:-)

Apparently you do, why else the copper emoji?

On an other note, my unit survived against an AU Jade Wolf 3050-era fight!

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #497 on: 05 May 2018, 18:55:43 »
Well, sorry for the Rule 10 violation. Did not realize that posting an excerpt of an old BT book could be a violation. Will be more carefull next time.

Now, the excerpt was from the old MW RPG 1ed. I found it thanks to Mendrugo`s thread in Novel and Sourcebook Reviews and Skiltao`s blog. It was from page 136 of the book. The book talks about the Marian hegemony without naming it that way. In fact, talks about how O`Reilly is the overlord of Alphard, the ATC, and have economic hegemony over 8 worlds. Now, point by point.

*ATC was once one of the greatest concerns in the Periphery.

*Its Board of Directors like to dabble in politics (it caused to be hit hard during the Amaris Civil War and SWs).

*Amaris was one of their main clients, and they produced 30 mechs/month in mid-28Th century. Now, we know that in the early 2700`s the ATC created a number of "baby ATCs" all around the Sphere and Periphery, but so far all leads that the Alphard ATC was the main one. Could this mean that the Alphard installations manufactured mechs for Amaris? Or it refers to the ATC-KY of Kendall? Or another unknown facility?

*When Sebastian O`Reilly found the refining facility in planet IV (which is the current MH capital), it holded 50 millon C-Bills in Germanium, enough to "several hundred drive cores". In my own opinion, 50 millon is a little..."anemic". I think they really meant to add one or two zeros to that number, at least.

*The rest continues with what we know, he hired mercs, and secured his realm. What is interesting is that apparently the surrounding zone was already inhabitated. It describes it with "other savaged planets in the area in cooperation with the petty governments and populacesthat remainded. Was the zone colonized during the Star League era? By whom? We know of worlds like Comstock IV and Francas in the area being during the SL era, so it is a possibility that there are more inhabitated worlds around.

*Its curious that describe that Johann and Marius have created a national entity that "presently enjoys a standard of living rivaling of any Successor State". That means that they did a very good job, or that life in the Inner Sphere was crappier that we know.

*Finally, it addressed that Marius, by 3025, have around 1 regiment of mechs, have secured  a reliable source of spare parts (raiding?, some Spheroid corporation?, Comstar?) and have a growing industrial base, but lacks in the technical expertise department to "make rediscoveries of lost technology".

*Final note: In the background we see a symbol that apparently is a "O" over a "R". Could this be the House O`Reilly family crest?.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #498 on: 05 May 2018, 23:25:33 »
Baldur I think that the Kendall Mech Factory between ATC - Kalidasa Industries is quite more modern than the factory mentioned by you, so I think it must be in Alphard or another peripheral world

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #499 on: 07 May 2018, 18:09:51 »
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A little background info for you...

Last night I watched a really good Chinese historical movie about the Romans!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Blade_(film)

Good film, made me itch all day at work thinking of the implications I could do...

Now need to make a unit based of the Reverse!

Instead of Romans fighting with Chinese, opposite... now who would that be?

So far I've narrowed it down to St. Ives Sentinels... First or Second? Both have a good rep I could lay into.

I still want to Dark Age Maniples using Xin Sheng tactics. ( Augmented Lances... in a HM formation. )

Suggestions?

Ideal method: Like the Aug Lances of Liao...

Century type 1- 3 mechs and 2 vehicles
Century type 2- 3 mechs and 2 Squads of BA
Century type 3- 3 vehicles and 2 mechs
Century type 4- 3 vehicles and 2 Squads of BA

Making a Maniple from two of these Centuries.

SO, in other words... what do you think?

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #500 on: 08 May 2018, 03:50:08 »
It's good, but nowhere near historical  ;)

No Roman Emperor would campaign into Central Asia or Western China with a mere legion even if it was logistically possible.


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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #502 on: 09 May 2018, 18:59:15 »
Historically the many legionnaires captured at Carrhae were sent to the other side of Parthia as a penal unit and encountered the Chinese. They could also have been captured in turn and brought to China and settled there. That's how they could've built an European-style settlement in China.

We do know there were embassies and exchanges between Rome and Han China, but that's the extent of it.

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« Reply #503 on: 09 May 2018, 20:56:33 »
I will say the movie wasn't bad, but then I like Jackie Chan and John Cusack.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #504 on: 09 May 2018, 21:08:47 »
Back on target...

What about a Xin Sheng style MH force?

Century type 1- 3 mechs and 2 vehicles
Century type 2- 3 mechs and 2 Squads of BA
Century type 3- 3 vehicles and 2 mechs
Century type 4- 3 vehicles and 2 Squads of BA

Making a Maniple from two of these Centuries.

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #505 on: 10 May 2018, 08:25:07 »
I would go with 1 and 2. The matching numbers of vees and BA squads gives you some flexibility, since you can go with Marauders that can ride anything and choose whatever you want for the vehicle slots, or choose stuff with transport capacity for the vees, letting you choose other kinds of suit.


Hmm...If you go with Marauders and Testudos, and fast general purpose mechs, then the mechs can race forward to get into range and drop off the MADsuits in a nice shooting position to dig in. You've now got a powerful maneuver element in your mechs(with the option to split them up as needed), a sizeable area on the map that the other guy will want to avoid for fear of TAG missiles and the suits' own firepower, and a slow-rolling anvil in the form of the Testudos. Triple threat! :) Best of all, since the tanks are the only really big units, this force will likely be cheap.

Random thought: Has anyone tried using our Charger variant as a Marauder ferry? It's got the speed to do the job, the durability to survive getting them in close, and makes a wonderful distraction simply by being a big scary assault mech, giving the Marauders time to do the real work.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #506 on: 10 May 2018, 13:46:52 »
I was thinking the same... mixing two Chargers with a JagerMech and pairs of Marauders, along with a Type 3 Century using paired Tetsudos, an SRM Ignis and two Centurions!

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #507 on: 18 July 2018, 12:08:41 »
 Has any one experimented with clan unit concepts like supernovas ? I`ve been kicking that idea around a little and would be interested in input .I was thinking of basing it off a clan wolf mixed trinary , 1 mech century with attached marauder century and a vehicle century with attached jump infantry century . Any thoughts ?

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #508 on: 19 July 2018, 09:16:45 »
I've used mixed Centuries and Maniples with success. It's a lot of fun and breaks up the mech only battles that happen a lot.  I also like that you can get a lot of tactical flexibility with mixed setups.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #509 on: 02 August 2018, 06:53:38 »
Definitely! A century of BA and a century of IFVs make a great maniple. The examples you give are good too.
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