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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1350 on: 02 February 2021, 08:42:24 »
In the past, Chistu or Critchell had increased the size of sibkos coming out around the time of Tukayyid. Marthe Pryde's Coventry campaign was her blooding that generation. I wonder if Malvina had thought to do the same. Even if she was unbalanced, she seemed fairly bright.

Guess we'll see.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1351 on: 02 February 2021, 08:55:24 »
I played Alpha Strike for the first time this weekend and one of the guys there had a Jade Hawk. I didn't fight against it or get to watch when he was using it, but the mech he was using has beastly AS stats. It went from a mech I'd never really use to one that I need to add to my AS forces

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« Reply #1352 on: 26 February 2021, 07:55:32 »
Yeah, Jade Hawks are nasty in TW, but outright sick in Alpha Strike. All cluster- focused machines gain there because they tend to do more total damage than mechs that throw big blocks, and in AS 2/4/6 guns like the Jade Hawk's small lasers reach out to medium range giving it a huge damage boost in the most common range band compared to TW play.

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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1353 on: 26 February 2021, 12:22:04 »
Okay, here's a weird hypothetical question: You are wealthy or lucky enough to own a high-end sports car, and because you are Ultimate Jade Falcon Fan, you get the exterior painted in the colors of Iota Galaxy(green with ivory and silver trim). My question is...what do you do with the interior?
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1354 on: 26 February 2021, 12:31:36 »
Black. Malvina approved!
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« Reply #1355 on: 26 February 2021, 13:28:11 »
Black. Malvina approved!

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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1356 on: 26 February 2021, 20:41:07 »
Okay, here's a weird hypothetical question: You are wealthy or lucky enough to own a high-end sports car, and because you are Ultimate Jade Falcon Fan, you get the exterior painted in the colors of Iota Galaxy(green with ivory and silver trim). My question is...what do you do with the interior?

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« Reply #1357 on: 01 March 2021, 18:28:17 »
In the past, Chistu or Critchell had increased the size of sibkos coming out around the time of Tukayyid. Marthe Pryde's Coventry campaign was her blooding that generation. I wonder if Malvina had thought to do the same. Even if she was unbalanced, she seemed fairly bright.

Guess we'll see.
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« Reply #1358 on: 12 June 2021, 15:22:45 »
So, as a Falcon and you are going to participate in the great battle of Tukayyid.  What is your preferred "Jade Falcon" mech to fight the ComGuards. 
Turkina, Summoner, Hellbringer, Night Gyr, Black Lanner, Nova, Kit Fox

I don't know if the Warhawk could be considered a Jade Falcon mech.  If I can configure the Hellbringer, I would probably choose the Hellbringer.  Otherwise, I think either the Summoner or Black Lanner. 




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« Reply #1359 on: 12 June 2021, 16:11:49 »
Well, i'm fine with just about any of those except the Turkina and Night Gyr. The Warhawk's nice too if allowed.

On serious note, probably the Summoner. If i'm not too serious, might grab a Kit Fox. I'm indecisive and allowed to, i'll take Hellbringer F, which is technically post-Tukayyid config but techwise it's all common ClanTech.

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« Reply #1360 on: 12 June 2021, 16:29:57 »
Probably the Summoner. It's becoming abundantly clear to me that the Clans need to have the speed and maneuverability to shape the fight to their liking, especially when they're more often than not going to be outnumbered, outmassed, and out-armored by Spheroid opponents. The Summoner has that speed, plus the firepower to take advantage of good positioning and just enough armor to survive a mistake or two.
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« Reply #1361 on: 12 June 2021, 16:38:27 »
Ever since I saw it I have been in love with the Night Gyr. It’s got maneuverability and an impressive amount of firepower. Crits are tight but just about every variant uses them smartly. If only canon variants I’d pick any of the Night Gyrs. Too many summoner variants, especially the early ones make too many poor choices.
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« Reply #1362 on: 12 June 2021, 16:46:00 »
If I'm going to Falcon Harder, then it's the Kit Fox A all the way. Gauss rifle, and two ERML; enough speed to maintain range on enemies I don't want to brawl with, and an additional two ERMLs for those fast enough to pace me.

If I'm a thinking Falcon, then Summoner C.
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« Reply #1363 on: 12 June 2021, 18:32:21 »
I'd go with either the Summoner or Kit Fox, with a heavy lean towards the Kit Fox.
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« Reply #1364 on: 12 June 2021, 18:59:42 »
Thor D every step of the way. Mobility and a mostly energy loadout that it can keep using all day with minimal heat issues
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« Reply #1365 on: 12 June 2021, 20:11:59 »
??? That sounds very ... wolfish to me ...

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« Reply #1366 on: 12 June 2021, 21:13:43 »
Perhaps even, Jade Wolf-ish?
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« Reply #1367 on: 12 June 2021, 23:52:15 »
I would go with the Nova, likely the A or the S, but if I wanted to Falcon Harder it would be the Prime.

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« Reply #1368 on: 13 June 2021, 03:01:42 »
Summoner, configured as appropriate, and accept no lesser substitutes.
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« Reply #1369 on: 01 July 2021, 19:39:12 »
I am looking for assistance, trothkin!

While there is no excuse required for Jade Falcons to fight Smoke Jaguars, were there any such clashes  in the Invasion or FCCE era? I am preparing for a game, and like to make up some close- to-canon background for the game.

Any help received with thanks!
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1370 on: 01 July 2021, 19:51:43 »
I am looking for assistance, trothkin!

While there is no excuse required for Jade Falcons to fight Smoke Jaguars, were there any such clashes  in the Invasion or FCCE era? I am preparing for a game, and like to make up some close- to-canon background for the game.

Any help received with thanks!

Aren’t the Jags gone by FCCW?
A trial by the fleeing smoke jags for secrecy and use something of CJFs on their route back to the IS?
Some sort of flare up between the Huntress CJF garrison and the CSJ main garrison there, ala the Horse/LAM story told there?

IS based combat would be super limited due to the distance and CSJ being driven out pretty early on.
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« Reply #1371 on: 01 July 2021, 19:57:26 »
That LAM weirdness is probably the best bet to find something beyond random trials.

Thanks to the Invasion Corridors being what they are, and both Clans being staunch Crusaders, they seem to have had little reason to fight circa the Clan Invasion.

Perhaps pre-Clan Invasion, the Revival trials? During Invasion Corridor selection, the Smoke Jaguars and Jade Falcons fought over the Alpha Corridor (birds won). (They didn't meet during the preliminaries.)

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« Reply #1372 on: 01 July 2021, 20:03:51 »
You could always do a trial for genes or mechs. 

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« Reply #1373 on: 02 July 2021, 20:26:16 »
Some great ideas there, folks!

It'll be the second game of Alpha Strike for two of the players, so I don't want to make it too complex. So ... zellbringen. Not "normal" style. There'll be two stars each side. For the sake of argument, options include

- Each Star picks one enemy Star, and fights that until all gone, before it can engage the other. But you can opt for 'grand melee' if you want. But what honourable Clan warrior would do that?  ::)
- Assume each side thinks the other is dishonorable, and free-for-all.

I like the sound of the first option better; thoughts?
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« Reply #1374 on: 02 July 2021, 23:20:22 »
Some great ideas there, folks!

It'll be the second game of Alpha Strike for two of the players, so I don't want to make it too complex. So ... zellbringen. Not "normal" style. There'll be two stars each side. For the sake of argument, options include

- Each Star picks one enemy Star, and fights that until all gone, before it can engage the other. But you can opt for 'grand melee' if you want. But what honourable Clan warrior would do that?  ::)
- Assume each side thinks the other is dishonorable, and free-for-all.

I like the sound of the first option better; thoughts?

Considering how traditional both clans are I would say one on one however if one of the units uses either an opponent or ally as a shield (someone standing between two units who have engaged in zellbrigen) then “grand melee”.

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« Reply #1375 on: 03 July 2021, 06:12:25 »
Considering how traditional both clans are I would say one on one however if one of the units uses either an opponent or ally as a shield (someone standing between two units who have engaged in zellbrigen) then “grand melee”.

Makes sense.

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« Reply #1376 on: 03 July 2021, 12:07:17 »
Other "volunteers" were obtained by a trial of possession with Clan Jade Falcon, where the Jaguars won and adopted several solahma aerospace pilots.[5]  Per Sarna.net.  So here is a reason for a CJF vs CSJ trial.  (CSJ was searching for protomech pilots)



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« Reply #1377 on: 07 July 2021, 18:54:08 »
Okay, here's a weird hypothetical question: You are wealthy or lucky enough to own a high-end sports car, and because you are Ultimate Jade Falcon Fan, you get the exterior painted in the colors of Iota Galaxy(green with ivory and silver trim). My question is...what do you do with the interior?
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« Reply #1378 on: 11 July 2021, 00:36:13 »
Okay, here's a weird hypothetical question: You are wealthy or lucky enough to own a high-end sports car, and because you are Ultimate Jade Falcon Fan, you get the exterior painted in the colors of Iota Galaxy(green with ivory and silver trim). My question is...what do you do with the interior?

Jade carpeting and seats with ivory doors, all with silver/chrome trim.

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« Reply #1379 on: 11 July 2021, 01:04:49 »
A few years ago, I almost bought a Ford Falcon so I could paint it jade & be able to say I rode a Jade Falcon from time-to-time.

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