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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1440 on: 01 September 2021, 22:25:12 »
I love BT as much as the next person but it'd be cool to leave the pseudo-RP in the Hall.  We don't actually have to live up to memey stereotypes, it's just a thread title.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1441 on: 01 September 2021, 22:51:56 »
LOL RP? This is the CJF thread, not a thread about thread titles, which btw wasn’t even your contribution. If we’re talking about any other Clan, you could say that it might be better to leave the dream of Terra aside. This isn’t on the table for CJF. The entire psychology of this faction is like a bowstring held in constant tension for centuries with the arrow aimed at Terra. Even before Nicholas slighted CJF by joining Clan Wolf, CJF wanted to be THE Clan.

With that dream dead, whether there is such a thing as CJF anymore is an open issue.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1442 on: 02 September 2021, 02:10:10 »
The other view is that the rabid beast that she-who-makes-Nutty-Nicky-look-sane-by-comparison led to Terra had strayed soon far from the Honor Road that they could barely be called Jade Falcons at all anymore.

Clan Jade Falcon was dead well before anyone with a green uniform actually set foot on Terra. Only in the fires of the IlClan campaign was that Clan reborn.

That being said, Scotty's right. The threads up there are for discussing tactics, gameplay, and the behavior of various factions in an at least semi-rational manner, leavened by some lighthearted throwing around of made-up buzzwords.

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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1443 on: 02 September 2021, 11:11:37 »
Semi-rational is quite the loaded term!
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1444 on: 02 September 2021, 12:41:46 »
It's the Clans, semi-rational is the best you get.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1445 on: 02 September 2021, 14:52:19 »
Unlike most other factions the Falcons are also in a state of major transition.  Their future is uncertain, yes Alaric said they what they would be but he or even the next Khan might change their mind.  There is also the question of the Jade Falcons outside of Terra will they be absorbed by the various faction vying for control of the northern part of the Lyran Commonwealth.  Will some go rogue or even (gasp) (whispering) mercenary.

The identity of the Jade Falcons has been twisted and now destroyed from within and the forum titles should help show that “might makes right” may no longer be part of the Jade Falcon credo due to Malvinas the not-named-Khan heavy handed and self-destructive behaviour.

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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1446 on: 02 September 2021, 16:53:08 »
Oh, Malvina keeps her name. Her story must be taught to all Falcons in the future, so that it never happens again.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1447 on: 02 September 2021, 17:25:18 »
Yeah, Malvina got us to Terra and had the Wolves not cheated in the end, there's a very real chance we'd have won.  Doesn't mean every Falcon would have felt good about that victory though.

Quote from: CJC070 on 02 September 2021, 14:52:19
Unlike most other factions the Falcons are also in a state of major transition.  Their future is uncertain, yes Alaric said they what they would be but he or even the next Khan might change their mind.  There is also the question of the Jade Falcons outside of Terra will they be absorbed by the various faction vying for control of the northern part of the Lyran Commonwealth.  Will some go rogue or even (gasp) (whispering) mercenary.

You're over estimating how much the falcon's left behind. One example in Hour of the Wolf had the whole planet looked over by 5 warriors well past their prime.  No one is going to bother absorbing them.  IS forces will probably put them on trial for Malvina's crimes while clan forces might go ahead and give them that death in battle they wanted.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1448 on: 02 September 2021, 23:53:24 »
Quote from: DarkSpade on 02 September 2021, 17:25:18
Yeah, Malvina got us to Terra and had the Wolves not cheated in the end, there's a very real chance we'd have won.

(Apologies in advance...)

Clan Jade Falcon Thread III:  The Wolves Cheated

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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1449 on: 02 September 2021, 23:56:54 »
"The Wolves Cheated the Bid with Mercs"
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1450 on: 03 September 2021, 03:33:53 »
Quote from: Natasha Kerensky on 30 August 2021, 21:56:51
Clan Jade Falcon:  Admittedly, We Falconed a Little Too Hard

Clan Jade Falcon:  Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard

Sums up the Malvina era for this aging Talon.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1451 on: 03 September 2021, 06:31:06 »
It's clear that Malvina had to go one way or other. She got fitting end. Too bad that she took most of Clan Jade Falcon with her.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1452 on: 03 September 2021, 07:30:31 »
Jade Falcon - Survivors of the Great Cull

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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1453 on: 03 September 2021, 11:03:04 »
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1454 on: 03 September 2021, 12:12:46 »
Quote from: Precentor Scorpio on 03 September 2021, 07:30:31
Jade Falcon - Survivors of the Great Cull

Jade Falcon - Lean Green and freshly preened.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1455 on: 03 September 2021, 15:24:50 »
Clan Jade Falcon III :  A Rending Rede.

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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1456 on: 03 September 2021, 15:35:17 »
Again?!? :o

And that's coming from a Free Worlds League player!
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1457 on: 04 September 2021, 13:52:03 »
So, how will the scientists determine whose genes are selected for the next round of fledglings to be considered for Clan Jade Falcon.
Who knows, maybe the failures will be assigned to the SLDF automatically.
Would you consider only allowing the survivors to breed? 
Maybe the DNA from the dead is allowed into the program but superstition will say their genes would be considered "male" so only the survivors' bloodnames will be carried forward.  (I am trying to say this.  Kristen Malthus died on Terra.  Duane Hazen survived.  The genes from these two will be used for a new sibko.  However, because the current leadership does not want to have a bloodname from someone who died, the offspring from this union can only earn the Hazen bloodname.  Kristen's bloodname Malthus  may still be earned.  But only from the descendants of a Malthus that survived the battle.  (Or an unblooded Malthus warrior that survived the battle.)
 
Would you consider the political views of the gene-parent to determine eligibility?


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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1458 on: 04 September 2021, 14:49:34 »
Would not be presented as politically based, but the gene-parent's combat record would be considered. For example, I imagine that Malvina's giftake gets incinerated ASAP, as while gifted in combat, she led her Clan to disaster.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1459 on: 04 September 2021, 18:08:24 »
Quote from: worktroll on 04 September 2021, 14:49:34
Would not be presented as politically based, but the gene-parent's combat record would be considered. For example, I imagine that Malvina's giftake gets incinerated ASAP, as while gifted in combat, she led her Clan to disaster.

wouldn't be PRESENTED as political, but it would be inherently political as all hell, and that's assuming they GET to keep the Sibko program and aren't denied access to the equipment.
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« Reply #1460 on: 04 September 2021, 18:22:40 »
Despite their protests to the otherwise, the Clans are human, and humans are innately political once groupings pass a certain size. Wardens vs Crusader - politics. Tainted vs Homeworlds? Political. etc.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1461 on: 04 September 2021, 18:36:17 »
Quote from: Weirdo on 03 September 2021, 15:35:17
Again?!? :o

And that's coming from a Free Worlds League player!

Ah...

The Jaded Wolf era...
Memories...

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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1462 on: 05 September 2021, 19:55:30 »
Yeah, not sure how CJF could even hope to recover from this one, unless they wholeheartedy fall in line with the ilClan for the (implied?) protection.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1463 on: 06 September 2021, 00:47:33 »
Trying as hard as I can for a newish player. My KS gives me a full Binary and two points of Elementals.

I shall have to win a Trial of Possession to increase the forces under my command.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1464 on: 06 September 2021, 08:37:29 »
As a new Falcon elstar, I hope your isorla search becomes nathaculor for you!

Also, look up dictionary on Sarna.net, it'll explain the above better!

And then : any thought of adding support to your Mecha, aero or even vehicle units?

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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1465 on: 07 September 2021, 01:47:03 »
Couldn't find the terms elstar or nathaculor on Sarna. I know isola is the spoils of war.

Opened up my salvage boxes last night. Picked up another Executioner and Adder. Also 1 Hellbringer and my Legendary random was Natasha Kerensky's Direwolf.
Adding either my other one or Aidan Pryde's Timber Wolf gives me another star so looks like I have a Trinary. Then one more Omni mech and two points of Elementals.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1466 on: 07 September 2021, 02:02:08 »
Quote from: truetanker on 06 September 2021, 08:37:29
As a new Falcon elstar, I hope your isorla search becomes nathaculor for you!

Quote from: LosTech Toaster on 07 September 2021, 01:47:03
Couldn't find the terms elstar or nathaculor on Sarna. I know isola is the spoils of war.

My quote in layman term: I mentioned this Dictionary

As a new Falcon elstar ( clan genotype warrior with all three genos : Mechwarrior, Aerojock and Elemental genetics ), I hope your isola ( captured spoils or salvage ) search becaomes nathaculor ( series of zellbrigen duels < one on one fights > ) for you!

In other words, being new with combined DNA to preform at your best in search of a fair fight for your spoils!

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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1467 on: 07 September 2021, 02:04:30 »
Welcome aboard, LTT!

As a nu-age Elstar, you also need to think about running battle armour and vehicles. Aim for your own cluster, and become a Star Colonel!

Have you considered which Galaxy (eg which paintscheme) you will choose? My heart goes with Delta, but Epsilon are fine Falcons also.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1468 on: 07 September 2021, 02:08:49 »
I wouldn't mind if he joined Lambda...  >:D

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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #1469 on: 07 September 2021, 03:24:20 »
Thank you trutanker and worktroll.  :)

Haven't put much thought into paint schemes yet but I found a picture or two. I didn't know it made a difference.
Will need to look at the Galaxy options and decide which one is the best fit. I didn't know there' were non-mech/Elemental units.

What I do know is that when the time is right I shall fight for the Hazen bloodname.
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