Author Topic: The Diamond Shark tank and Sea Fox preserve: Cause somebody has to start it... (Read 249468 times)

Angrii · « **Reply #1230 on:** 15 March 2021, 15:34:53 »

So what happens when Alaric and the new Star League goes to war with the Combine (to start with)? I don't imagine he'd look kindly on the friendly neighborhood Khanate enabling his opposition. Will he put restrictions on with whom they can do business? And if he does do we think they'll actually listen, brazenly ignore his demands, or continue to sell to anyone and everyone on the down-low? Maybe it'll depend on the Khanate, which has its own interesting implications in terms of Clan cohesion.

Thoughts?

Geont · « **Reply #1231 on:** 16 March 2021, 02:59:16 »

Quote from: Angrii on 15 March 2021, 15:34:53

So what happens when Alaric and the new Star League goes to war with the Combine (to start with)? I don't imagine he'd look kindly on the friendly neighborhood Khanate enabling his opposition. Will he put restrictions on with whom they can do business? And if he does do we think they'll actually listen, brazenly ignore his demands, or continue to sell to anyone and everyone on the down-low? Maybe it'll depend on the Khanate, which has its own interesting implications in terms of Clan cohesion.

Thoughts?

As I see it, he will need to make a deal with SF that makes sense to them. If SF stopped dealing with DC it would mean that some khanate (in this case Fox Khanate) will lose significant profits. I don't think that it would bode well for interClan politics. I am patiently waiting for the continuation of ilClan novels.

Quote from: Colt Ward on 14 January 2021, 10:12:48

Not the only one- your forgot Trenton who is to be a Legend . . . I am wondering if he is being set up to be Nikol's consort.

Julietta is Rikkard's political advisor and also discusses things with Petr though he has a better political insight.

The Foxes are going to be interesting . . . you have Petr's Khanate which is involved in the League (took over ComStar facilities), you have Dominguez (?) which is involved with Julian's FedSuns . . . and then we have whichever Khanate put together the deal with Alaric.

Yeah, forgot about him. We will see what interFWL politics he will be part of.

FedSuns has currently two Khanates working inside them, Fox Khanate, which isn't happy that DC is steamrolling through FedSuns due possibility of only selling to DC because it's designated territory in FedSun being occupied by DC, and Tiburon Khanate (Lyran and OZ trading teritory) that decided to involve in FedSuns politics and escort Julian. Also, we have a problem with resurrection of FWL due overlap of trading territories of Spina (Petr's Khanate) and Skate Khanates. Hard to say how these two khanates dealt with it and there was this Wolf Empire event that kind if made another mess (WE would be in Spina Khanate territory). Seriously, we need some kind of map/table that show trade territories of Khanates.

I have high hopes for Sea Fox future.

Kitsune413 · « **Reply #1232 on:** 01 August 2021, 13:09:21 »

Seems like the Horses got two pages in the Ilclan book, Other than the periphery states it seems like we got skipped over? That's sad. Oh well, a little longer and we can hit control F on the Ilclan book.

Kitsune413 · « **Reply #1233 on:** 01 August 2021, 13:44:58 »

Quote from: Kitsune413 on 01 August 2021, 13:09:21

Seems like the Horses got two pages in the Ilclan book, Other than the periphery states it seems like we got skipped over? That's sad. Oh well, a little longer and we can hit control F on the Ilclan book.

Did this post ignore the Ravens? Or are they a periphery state. Hmm...

rebs · « **Reply #1234 on:** 01 August 2021, 14:06:06 »

It's not perfect, but it will be an IlClan.

That's why we need to write more, duder. And submit it. So others can share in Sea Fox love.

Edit: I have a feeling it won't be done any other way.

Kitsune413 · « **Reply #1235 on:** 06 August 2021, 21:33:16 »

We got a little action in Shattered Fortress. Only seven mentions in Ilclan and none of them mean much. Hopefully we'll get to land a few Vultures and Savage Wolves in the next product. :)

rebs · « **Reply #1236 on:** 06 August 2021, 21:52:01 »

Yes, our Khanates and Aimags are all over. You would think that we could figure into any product.

I did hope for more screen time. We supply death. We are merchants of war.

Kitsune413 · « **Reply #1237 on:** 07 August 2021, 11:07:16 »

Yeah, hopefully we make some moves in Tamar riding next month.

rebs · « **Reply #1238 on:** 07 August 2021, 11:25:37 »

I'd be proud of an Aimag that sells to rebels!

Foxx Ital · « **Reply #1239 on:** 07 August 2021, 11:34:40 »

Quote from: rebs on 07 August 2021, 11:25:37

I'd be proud of an Aimag that sells to rebels!

You are battletech's Anaheim Electronics,embrace it!

rebs · « **Reply #1240 on:** 07 August 2021, 17:59:13 »

We're Joe's Army Surplus in spaaace!

CJC070 · « **Reply #1241 on:** 07 August 2021, 21:07:47 »

Unfortunately other than the Capellans no one has awoken the Sea Foxes wraith. As a result little is happening to draw attention to your machinations. With Tamar Rising and hints of mercenary company’s being created due to Lyran negligence hopefully you get the recognition you deserve.

rebs · « **Reply #1242 on:** 30 August 2021, 17:39:54 »

Hunting Season! By Pillip A. Lee.

Finally we flex some muscle as a Clan!

Rainbow 6 · « **Reply #1243 on:** 02 September 2021, 10:00:03 »

How closely intertwined do you think the Sea Foxes and Free Worlds League will get as we move into the IlClan era?

rebs · « **Reply #1244 on:** 02 September 2021, 10:13:04 »

We may get a few seats in Parliament. But probably not much more.

The Sharkfox way is to be in control (or feel in control) from a distance. So we can deny collaboration charges when the dust clears.

Drewbacca · « **Reply #1245 on:** 02 September 2021, 11:29:50 »

My inner Shark has been popping its fin above the surface lately, but I am still not sold on the new Clan Sea Fox. What am I missing? Is there more to the clan than the one-trick-pony wandering merchant schtick?

CJC070 · « **Reply #1246 on:** 02 September 2021, 14:58:55 »

Quote from: Drewbacca on 02 September 2021, 11:29:50

My inner Shark has been popping its fin above the surface lately, but I am still not sold on the new Clan Sea Fox. What am I missing? Is there more to the clan than the one-trick-pony wandering merchant schtick?

To be honest that is why I am waiting for Tamar Rising and other upcoming books. With the HPGs still down and the Sea Foxes scattered in all direction I’m hoping we see the Khanates creating or reinforcing their own identities. Already the Capellan Khanate is already siding against the current Chancellor and one Falcon tech has betrayed his clan, who knows what else is happening in the Inner Sphere.

rebs · « **Reply #1247 on:** 02 September 2021, 17:05:53 »

We have been waiting for this for an incredibly long time.

It's actually inspiring. In a way. I have a sharkfox story set during the Wars of Reaving. When we were still Diamond Sharks, but still. Can't say much more if I want to submit it to Shrapnel.

Scotty · « **Reply #1248 on:** 02 September 2021, 18:26:59 »

Quote from: Rainbow 6 on 02 September 2021, 10:00:03

How closely intertwined do you think the Sea Foxes and Free Worlds League will get as we move into the IlClan era?

There are seven Clan Protectorate MPs in the League Parliament, and the Sea Foxes have a significant hand in export rights to any facilities in that area and a few others nearby.

It's only one Khanate, though, not the full Clan or even a majority of it. I can see having a known quantity in Nicol and the rest of the FWL government being advantageous for both sides if shit hits the fan, but I don't see it having significant policy impact unless Petr ends up Khan.

Kitsune413 · « **Reply #1249 on:** 08 September 2021, 18:52:21 »

So Empire Alone is coming out in March of next year. Pretty far away...

But it seems like it features some Shark Foxes and Spirit Cats versus the Wolf Empire...

On the other hand, the phrase "With no further communication from Alaric Ward, Star Colonel Othar is left alone to face the ambitions of his subordinates and the assaults of his neighbors, and ensure the ilKhan’s realm remains inviolate." Makes me wonder if this is going to be more Clan Wolf victory porn or if we'll see the League and Clan Protectorate get their licks in.

Also... Clan Sea Fox has acknowledged Clan Wolf as Ilkhan, so what does that mean?

Anyways. At least we'll probably, maybe have something to shoot. Hopefully Tamar Rising gives the Bears and Lyran commonwealth something to do as well.

rebs · « **Reply #1250 on:** 08 September 2021, 19:47:58 »

My impression of Empire Alone, and the blurbs about it that are all we have to go on, was the FWL was hitting the Wolf Empire, but we were at the rear. We get to fight and strike from a position of power.

That said, I would expect a little about us in Tamar Rising since Twycross is there in the midst of whatever is going on.

Sani_2341 · « **Reply #1251 on:** 09 September 2021, 00:54:45 »

Quote from: Kitsune413 on 08 September 2021, 18:52:21

Also... Clan Sea Fox has acknowledged Clan Wolf as Ilkhan, so what does that mean?

Wasn't it just the ilKhanate (and potentially whatever other khanate helped ship wolves to terra) that did that?

With the still ongoing HPG blackout, there's enough wiggle room for spina to not have heard about the ilClan trial by the time Empire Alone takes place.

Also, with how we divided ourselves into khanates, I could see the Sea Foxes pulling a FWL and falling into a inter-khanate civil war over the ilClan issue (and any bills wolf may or may not try to wiggle out of 'By the right of the ilClan')

Rncavenger · « **Reply #1252 on:** 09 September 2021, 01:39:41 »

Quote from: Kitsune413 on 08 September 2021, 18:52:21

So Empire Alone is coming out in March of next year. Pretty far away...

But it seems like it features some Shark Foxes and Spirit Cats versus the Wolf Empire...

On the other hand, the phrase "With no further communication from Alaric Ward, Star Colonel Othar is left alone to face the ambitions of his subordinates and the assaults of his neighbors, and ensure the ilKhan’s realm remains inviolate." Makes me wonder if this is going to be more Clan Wolf victory porn or if we'll see the League and Clan Protectorate get their licks in.

Also... Clan Sea Fox has acknowledged Clan Wolf as Ilkhan, so what does that mean?

Anyways. At least we'll probably, maybe have something to shoot. Hopefully Tamar Rising gives the Bears and Lyran commonwealth something to do as well.

I'm not sure that the protectorate will fight with Wolves. There are much more logical goals for them. The Protectorate can act as a kind of "peacemakers" between the League and the Wolves. To prevent a big war, which the Protectorate definitely does not need.

Colt Ward · « **Reply #1253 on:** 09 September 2021, 10:05:35 »

Quote from: rebs on 02 September 2021, 10:13:04

We may get a few seats in Parliament. But probably not much more.

The Sharkfox way is to be in control (or feel in control) from a distance. So we can deny collaboration charges when the dust clears.

May? The Protectorate does have a few seats- which we knew from the end of the MWDA books- and the whole Protectorate block voted against the majority to look after Sea Fox interests.

I expect Fontaine or perhaps Kenyon to start the fight with the Empire, Nikol has set her sights on Andurien so it is hard to imagine her plunging in the other direction.

In fact Kenyon could very easily be the instigator since if the League retakes old MSC worlds it could increase his power bloc- particularly since the Silverhawk Irregulars are involved.

Drewbacca · « **Reply #1254 on:** 18 September 2021, 15:28:45 »

Something that just came to me on the Comstar death thread: I had been wondering about the Foxes having HPG stations in their possession and thought, what happens if they get either their network back up or develop a new system based on a variant of HPG tech.

Some of the folks were wishing ComStar would come back. I thought instead of ComStar maybe we will get something else.

Maybe we will get...

ClanStar. The Foxes find a solution and the Wolves task them with getting the net up, ala Kerensky and Blake.

truetanker · « **Reply #1255 on:** 18 September 2021, 16:46:34 »

Why? Clans have their own HPG sats...

They just drop one of every few jumps to cover and insta comms.

TT

Colt Ward · « **Reply #1256 on:** 22 September 2021, 09:47:44 »

Because they do not work either.

The ONLY HPGs that are still function without problems that we know of is way out in distant Scorpion Empire land . . . and does anyone because the Scorpions who raided Solaris VII know that to be the case?

Guardian11 · « **Reply #1257 on:** 23 September 2021, 00:05:03 »

If anyone is curious about what the Sea Foxes are up to, and don't mind spoilers I would suggest popping over to the Tamar Rising thread in General Discussion and having a look.

truetanker · « **Reply #1258 on:** 23 September 2021, 10:17:16 »

One, I got the book...

Two, how come you say only the Scorpions have their HPG working?

The established network is IS based.

Clans have had a working system based on their higher clan tech. Besides, they have theirs built on most warships and we have a Canon Mech carting one as well! Their HPG is different than IS.

Word of Blake's code might have screwed the base networks, but not the mobile ones that haven't been attached, including the Homies.

TT

Colt Ward · « **Reply #1259 on:** 23 September 2021, 11:54:11 »

No, the IS Clans do not have a working network- their HPGs were the same as the IS HPGs, the only people who did research on HPGs afaik was the Blakists.

Most Clan HPGs are NOT built on warships- consider they have more worlds in their OZ/Dominion/Alliance than they have operational warships. Additionally small warships did not have them, it was a special refit to 'important' ships- most warship RS do not have a HPG install. The 2nd MWDA book did establish A Clan HPG worked in a prefecture, but it was on a jumpship under the control of Kal Raddick & the Steel Wolves. Only a single jumpship had a operational HPG out of the fleet of jumpships the Steel Wolves controlled- was it the only HPG? possible. Were there more than one HPG in the JS? also possible. We also do not know if it STILL worked if it moved, but that was the concern of the Republic at the time b/c they did not know what caused it. Further, we have no single report afaik of a warship maintaining ANY sort of HPG link or have one operational.

The Scorpions are the only HPG network not scrambled that we know of, which is related to it's distance from the network in the IS- the HPGs are down b/c the MEDIUM changed in the Inner Sphere. Think of it like a waterbed you set a bowling ball on . . . around the bowling ball, you are going to have curves down to a drop where the ball rests but out on the edges the surface is still going to be pretty close to level. The Scorpion Empire is far enough from the epicenter of the cause of the effect that it is within the tolerances of the HPG's hardware/software to adjust.

Since the Scorpion's HPGs work, it is LIKELY the Homie's HPGs work . . . if the HPGs still exist, if the Homies are not charred cinders, and if the Home Worlds are not graveyards. BUT we have not seen the Homies and are unlikely to learn anything about them for IRL years.