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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #690 on: 16 November 2020, 14:34:52 »
Are the Black Warriors still a thing in 3150-ish? Or are they more Blakey?

Just wondering.

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #691 on: 16 November 2020, 14:53:03 »
I’m pretty sure they died with Circinus.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #692 on: 16 November 2020, 16:01:25 »
I'm fairly certain they died well before Circinus did...
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #693 on: 16 November 2020, 19:54:26 »
They tried to defect to the anti-Blakist side but pretty much got wiped out by the Manei Domini.

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #694 on: 16 November 2020, 19:57:45 »
Ah, right.  I forgot.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #695 on: 17 November 2020, 22:45:52 »
It is in one of the late Jihad Sourcebooks (I think). Specifically, Precentor Avitue (one of the better BT Villains in my opinion) tracked down the Black Warrior Jump Ship/Dropship(s), boarded them with her cybernetic clown posse and killed them all, leaving the Drophip(s) FLOATING IN SPACE as a warning (blatant adventure hook ;) ).

BUT (can't track it down right now) it is noted that some Black Warriors who had been sent on different tracks as diversions survived (more blatant adventure hook-ism :D )...and the equipment of their dead comrades is there to be salvaged.

It is also heavily implied that Fritz Donner was an Eridani Light Horse veteran, and he left instructions to the Black Warriors for contacting "The Horsemen" for help (or something like that). We know from Splinter #1 that the Eridani Light Horse are a shadow of their former selves, but are still very much operating, and Eridani Light Horse descendant can be found in Imperio Space.

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #696 on: 17 November 2020, 22:58:56 »
We know from Splinter #1 that the Eridani Light Horse are a shadow of their former selves, but are still very much operating, and . . .

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #697 on: 18 November 2020, 02:43:08 »
Ok, the fate of the Black Warriors is in Starterbook: Wolf and Blake , pg 34.

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #698 on: 18 November 2020, 03:35:10 »
It is in one of the late Jihad Sourcebooks (I think). Specifically, Precentor Avitue (one of the better BT Villains in my opinion) tracked down the Black Warrior Jump Ship/Dropship(s), boarded them with her cybernetic clown posse and killed them all, leaving the Drophip(s) FLOATING IN SPACE as a warning (blatant adventure hook ;) ).

BUT (can't track it down right now) it is noted that some Black Warriors who had been sent on different tracks as diversions survived (more blatant adventure hook-ism :D )...and the equipment of their dead comrades is there to be salvaged.

It is also heavily implied that Fritz Donner was an Eridani Light Horse veteran, and he left instructions to the Black Warriors for contacting "The Horsemen" for help (or something like that). We know from Splinter #1 that the Eridani Light Horse are a shadow of their former selves, but are still very much operating, and Eridani Light Horse descendant can be found in Imperio Space.

Ther eis cwertainly a whole intro adventure for a RPG here.

- Contracted by a small mercenary outfit (black warrior survivors). They need muscle to go and check around. PCs do not need to hacve mech of their own, sothey can be infantry or dispssessed or whatever, since anything goes for a space adventure.

- They check a pair of systems with nothing to be seen.

- The third system they hit has a derelict jumpship with the sail half retracted and 2-3 dropshoips floating nearby. The dropships show signs of entry damage. The jumpship does not.

- Insert gore aplenty inside the dropships and the jumpshipos. Inside the cargo bay of the jjumpships there are even signs of mechs having been used to fight! There are scorch marks of the targets of the mechs in the walls and floor, but no cadavers of the attackers. Except in the computer registries. Insert willpower rolls or equivalent here or feel really sick for a long time. Some scenes were performed in front of the security cameras on purpose, and they are not pretty. The registers can have been rigged so you can't fast forward the scene but need to watch it full, including the PA at full volume.

- And obviously the jumpship or dropship contains hibernated manei domini for some trigger happy scenes. Or maybe *A* manei domini if you want an Alien-like adventure. He starts picking up the acompanying black warriors. 

- The black warriors will not want the PC form spreading that they survived, so after clearing the area they turn on the PC. The PC have to fight it out but they are about to be overwhelmed if ythey stay. Still, there is one dropship (with mechs) attached to the jumpship... and the jumpship is loaded for a jump with a precalculated formula already in. Will you push the jump button to an unknown destination (and likely without having a navigator in the group)?



I might need to play that out....

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #699 on: 18 November 2020, 06:08:48 »
There is an opening story in the Jihad book for the year 3073. in the story Appollyon is suppresing a rebel cell on gibson and after that he visits an underground prison where he keeps Donner. He thinks to himself how admirable Donner is for holding out so long while his XO Michael Cirion broke quickly. So the Warriors should be dead by now. Just as dead as the Grey Death Legion.

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #700 on: 18 November 2020, 07:05:36 »
As a unit? Sure. But they were BIG. More than a regiment iirc. Some Lance's are likely to have escaped and re-branded themselves. Happens all the time when the ship is sinking.

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #701 on: 18 November 2020, 09:55:26 »
BUT (can't track it down right now) it is noted that some Black Warriors who had been sent on different tracks as diversions survived (more blatant adventure hook-ism :D )...and the equipment of their dead comrades is there to be salvaged.

It is also heavily implied that Fritz Donner was an Eridani Light Horse veteran, and he left instructions to the Black Warriors for contacting "The Horsemen" for help (or something like that). We know from Splinter #1 that the Eridani Light Horse are a shadow of their former selves, but are still very much operating, and Eridani Light Horse descendant can be found in Imperio Space.

There are bound to be BW survivors, yes. They are expert raiders who hit and run and survive. Donner admitted he was former ELH in his last orders to his XO.

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #702 on: 18 November 2020, 18:37:09 »
There is an opening story in the Jihad book for the year 3073. in the story Appollyon is suppresing a rebel cell on gibson and after that he visits an underground prison where he keeps Donner. He thinks to himself how admirable Donner is for holding out so long while his XO Michael Cirion broke quickly. So the Warriors should be dead by now. Just as dead as the Grey Death Legion.

I get what you are saying, but it is spelled out in Wolf and Blake that at least two small detachments survived.

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #703 on: 22 November 2020, 09:12:40 »
I think that “King” Hopper Morrison of the Morrison’s Extractors was a former Black Warrior.

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #704 on: 22 November 2020, 10:05:09 »
Yes. He went rogue after his company uncovered a lostech cache.

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« Reply #705 on: 22 November 2020, 18:21:55 »
Yes. He went rogue after his company uncovered a lostech cache.

I thought so.  I don't know how much of the Extractor's are left, or even if Hopper Morrison survived the Jihad or the beating they took from Able's Aces.  However, a surviving Morrison could potentially recruit any remaining Black Warriors after the Jihad to revitalize the Extractors.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #706 on: 22 November 2020, 18:27:39 »
Are the Black Warriors still a thing in 3150-ish? Or are they more Blakey?

Just wondering.

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Seems the answer is so-so... some survive but as a whole, gone.

Well thanks.!

Not happy, but at least I can get something done on this unit.

Should I roll under pirate or late Jihad MH?

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #707 on: 22 November 2020, 19:06:03 »
By 3150 they could have rebuilt, particularly if they recovered their drifting Tramp and Drophips. So at least some of their mech should be early Jihad with a sprinkle of Blakist equipment the WOB gave Little Bob.

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #708 on: 22 November 2020, 20:47:02 »
I thought so.  I don't know how much of the Extractor's are left, or even if Hopper Morrison survived the Jihad or the beating they took from Able's Aces.  However, a surviving Morrison could potentially recruit any remaining Black Warriors after the Jihad to revitalize the Extractors.

Morrison and the Black Warriors had a definitive break. He or his faction survived the Jihad into 3130 and even expanded their country into the Rim Territories.

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #709 on: 23 November 2020, 02:01:14 »
While we are at it: maybe some of them are now living in the remnants of the Circinus Federation. I mean the Regulans didn't nuke every planet into oblivion right? From the FM 3085 there was a mention that the Hegemony was dealing with increased pirate raids which came from the former Federation

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #710 on: 23 November 2020, 02:21:33 »
You could also have some survivors find their way into the Mortis Cohort . . .
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #711 on: 24 December 2020, 18:37:18 »
Happy Saturnalia for all Marian Citizen and Friends!!

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« Reply #712 on: 24 December 2020, 21:26:19 »
Happy Saturnalia to my fellow Marians! :)

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« Reply #713 on: 25 December 2020, 18:48:20 »
Happy Saturnalia to all!
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #714 on: 01 February 2021, 10:55:45 »
Ave Caesar!

How do we Marians fare? Any mention in Hour of The Wolf?

Since Alaric is welcoming any and all allies while he's consolidating after liberating Terra, I'm sure the Caesar will be a worthy ally to keep the neoFWL in check. It is logical and should also give the Nova Cats some breathing room as they subjugate the illegitimate Marik.

Hopefully we don't become a walkover for overpowered Canopus nor Tamarind. The veteran Legios wonder how they could humiliatingly lose to rabble from a duchy.

It's high time we get featured in the Recog Guides too since the Taurians got a mention and Randis got the HawkWolf.

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #715 on: 01 February 2021, 12:40:05 »
I would certainly love to see something.  I think they would deserve their own design by this point.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #716 on: 01 February 2021, 13:01:29 »
Hegemony has long deserved to appear in some mech at least with mention of pilots, but nothing even the non-existent members of the Aurigan coalition or the pirates of the Rim Territories have had a mention, of Randis I think that three mentions apart from his clear mech

The Hegemony nothing at all, except clowning in Shattered Fortress

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« Reply #717 on: 01 February 2021, 13:17:13 »
Yeap, its funny, there is a very nice little narrative going on Randis based on the snippets from the RecGuides, basically i presume is something about the Black marauder, and the Ravens attacking Tortuga. But yes, its strange that my small (but favourite) faccion get more mentions than the Hegemony in the RecGuides.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #718 on: 01 February 2021, 13:47:56 »
The Centurion has not made it into the RecGuides yet . . . it makes it in, bet we get a CN9-H reference.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #719 on: 01 February 2021, 14:12:15 »
I highly doubt it Colt Ward, there might have been some mention in the Locust or Commando two mechs that we know the Hegemony builds and there was nothing, maybe they made another Retcon and we never make it