Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV

[Walrus Gumboot]

Here's my full Marian collection that I'm building towards:

Well, wow.

If you've got Maraurder BA that means you are in an era where your Wolverines can be 9Ms (which makes sense, as the 9M was literally a dropship-bay customization by the anti-Blakist FWL forces during the Jihad). You probably won't feel tempted to field the only canonical Wolverine 6Ms in the the 32nd Century (although I would).

[Baldur Mekorig]

Side note, for those complaining about what the Marian Hegemony can or can't build, it could be worse: it could be Niops.

Have to agree, what happened to Niops was sad. I remember reading somewhere to the authors salting hte wound a little more by saying that the Marians did not even raid the place anymore, giving the idea that anything worth of raiding was gone. Have to search where i saw that.

[truetanker]

Fashionably late to the party, as usual.

May I suggest the lowly Pegasus to transport your Marauder BA, internally?

Pegasus does come in an Unarmed variant... it just swaps it for 12 tons of cargo!

And then you could add a Pair of Missile / Standard Pegasus combo and another Pair with Standard / Sensor Pegasus combo.

And further round this up with another Maniple of Paired Testudo and Triple Pike Missile support!

TT

[Turaglas]

Have to agree, what happened to Niops was sad. I remember reading somewhere to the authors salting hte wound a little more by saying that the Marians did not even raid the place anymore, giving the idea that anything worth of raiding was gone. Have to search where i saw that.

Don't worry, anything can get worse.

Fashionably late to the party, as usual.

May I suggest the lowly Pegasus to transport your Marauder BA, internally?

Pegasus does come in an Unarmed variant... it just swaps it for 12 tons of cargo!

And then you could add a Pair of Missile / Standard Pegasus combo and another Pair with Standard / Sensor Pegasus combo.

And further round this up with another Maniple of Paired Testudo and Triple Pike Missile support!

TT

I'm going to keep this in mind for myself.  Thanks.

[Colt Ward]

The version you are pointing to was first trotted out to be a objective in a Clan scenario since before that they actually lacked cargo or even most troop carriers (TRO3058).

[ArkRoyalRavager]

There is no impediment for the Hegemony for example to do retroengineering and make Vulcan ASF or other old models

Vulcans! Really solid and rugged technology. Centurion ASF is another one.

[Weirdo]

Vulcans are definitely on my short list to keep in mind should I decide to ever expand either Legion's fighter group.

[truetanker]

The version you are pointing to was first trotted out to be a objective in a Clan scenario since before that they actually lacked cargo or even most troop carriers (TRO3058).

That would have to be the Saladin ( Cargo ) which the Clans removed the AC and Ammo for cargo space.

The Unarmed Pegasus is from way before this timeline.

TT

[Adacas]

Vulcans! Really solid and rugged technology. Centurion ASF is another one.

Considering that the New Dallas Database was widely disseminated, that the Hegemony cannot rescue the technical data of the Vulcan, Centurion or even the venerable MM-1 / MM-2 Dragonfly ASF is insulting, the Vulcan ASF has been rebuilt. and armed with zero provincial universities of Lira as a practical work of a group of students, without more support than some teachers, that is, a group of technicians supported by a national state and a company putting money cannot achieve the same? Rare at least

[Baldur Mekorig]

Have to agree, what happened to Niops was sad. I remember reading somewhere to the authors salting hte wound a little more by saying that the Marians did not even raid the place anymore, giving the idea that anything worth of raiding was gone. Have to search where i saw that.

Found it!

Oddly, though, no move has been made toward the Niops Association, perhaps because the devastation wrought by the Blakists makes it an unappealing target.

FM:3085, page 132.

At leasts they are still active as 3145, i remember them appearing in "To Ride the Chimera".

[Baldur Mekorig]

...provincial universities of Lira as a practical work of a group of students...

Worse, the students wer not even Lyrans. It was the Greenock Flight Academy on Firgrove, a FS academy. And acording to Objectives:FS, they are building it there. The only other place building them was the Hanseatic League (Now the Scorpion Empire).

[Weirdo]

Considering that the New Dallas Database was widely disseminated, that the Hegemony cannot rescue the technical data of the Vulcan, Centurion or even the venerable MM-1 / MM-2 Dragonfly ASF is insulting, the Vulcan ASF has been rebuilt. and armed with zero provincial universities of Lira as a practical work of a group of students, without more support than some teachers, that is, a group of technicians supported by a national state and a company putting money cannot achieve the same? Rare at least

They can probably get the data easily. Having the data is very different from having the industry to take advantage of that data. Moreover, what evidence do we have that the Hegemony even wants to build Vulcans? We might think it's a good idea, but that in no way guarantees that the Hegemony leadership feels the same way.

[Adacas]

They can probably get the data easily. Having the data is very different from having the industry to take advantage of that data. Moreover, what evidence do we have that the Hegemony even wants to build Vulcans? We might think it's a good idea, but that in no way guarantees that the Hegemony leadership feels the same way.

Weirdo between having heavy fighters and not having them and eternally depending on the importation of this or that supplier who in this or that year puts an embargo on you because you did something that he did not like, there is not much option or much to think about, particularly when your adversaries have DS, PWS and Fighters all over the place is common sense.
They just haven't decided anything about the production of the HMI since Field Report 3085, or from Marian Arms Inc in 3145 or from Techwizards who may well have retroengineered since they are specialists in that and in rebuilding something piecemeal, the options that there could be any mech or Aero in the Hegemony you have it there, and not only for the MHAF or the Militias but for the Fields of Mars of each system or even for Patricians who want to have their mech in perfect condition or directly a small group of paid Privatters to take care of their possessions, let's say that if this is common in the rest of the IS and the Periphery I do not see why in the Hegemony it was not the same way.

Because this happens, it is simple little or no internal development of the faction, post the MPS book.
As the update is relegated to Era Reports and Field Manuals, the existing Fluff is scarce or null, since it is not that we have appeared mentioned too much or well in the novels that have come out.
Tangential mention in Star Lord, in the novel of the Avanti Angels Double Blind as the puppet antagonist of WoB, and some mentions to the step more.
If at least we were good protagonists in some novel, perhaps we would have more material to see well what Marian society is like, since there is none of that, at my tables I grab what there is and mix it as Republican Rome / Empire was and that's how they act

[Turaglas]

I thought everyone in BT are shades of grey outside certain novels.

[Adacas]

On another topic and in an effort to create a bit of fluff for the Marian Hegemony and drawing points of contact with the old Roman organization, as they would seem to call the Hegemony militias outside the MHAF

Cohors Urbanae, the old name of the Urban Guards of the Old Roman Empire, another option would be Exercitus Communium, and which fundamentally encompasses the troops that emerged from the Champs de Mars that instead of joining the MHAF are integrated into this military body that would be the Militia. .

Another option would be Provincial Legions but this would be on a larger scale than a Planetary Militia.

What do you think? Militiamech, Old Mechs, and Tanks would be your Standard with perhaps some more modern  mech Patrician in charge in my opinion.

[Turaglas]

Seems legit, with wealthier worlds able to draw from more than just industrial tech. 

[Weirdo]

So militia with a fancy name, but otherwise militia?

Seems pretty Marian to me.

[ArkRoyalRavager]

On another topic and in an effort to create a bit of fluff for the Marian Hegemony and drawing points of contact with the old Roman organization, as they would seem to call the Hegemony militias outside the MHAF

Cohors Urbanae, the old name of the Urban Guards of the Old Roman Empire, another option would be Exercitus Communium, and which fundamentally encompasses the troops that emerged from the Champs de Mars that instead of joining the MHAF are integrated into this military body that would be the Militia. .

Another option would be Provincial Legions but this would be on a larger scale than a Planetary Militia.

What do you think? Militiamech, Old Mechs, and Tanks would be your Standard with perhaps some more modern  mech Patrician in charge in my opinion.

They would be using lots of primitives, Arbiters, the wealthier worlds directly buying from former FWL or Lyran companies who always want profits

[Elmoth]

The militia would be the limitanei IMO. And then we have the legion comitatenses as the mobile elements.

[ArkRoyalRavager]

Militia of core or wealthy worlds would be Bucellarii.

[Baldur Mekorig]

I always assumed that the proper planetary militias in the MH are called "Prima Auxilia Alphardensis", or similar, as stated in the M&M book.

[Saint]

I think they would be primarily tanks with maybe a cohort of militamechs. I think any battlemech would go to a frontline unit.
Centurion militiamech
Quasits
Sarrisa
Crosscut
Should be very common.

[Weirdo]

I need to get some Crosscuts. A lot of the MOD versions look fun as hell, and possibly more effective than people expect.

[Adacas]

And starting our race towards the Next Rec Guide, what do you think will happen to us, some new design mech, another IIC or that a design manufactured in our factories miraculously appears?

[Turaglas]

I was surprised the fingerful of periphery variants were even brought up, but I doubt any of the Ilclan service guides will have a Marian variant.  That's just more of a focus on the designs and the factions than anything though.  I highly doubt the team wants to scrape a new primitech or rocket variant of a shiny new design when they're struggling to come up with something that has 30 variants already. 

[Colt Ward]

I was surprised the fingerful of periphery variants were even brought up, but I doubt any of the Ilclan service guides will have a Marian variant.  That's just more of a focus on the designs and the factions than anything though.  I highly doubt the team wants to scrape a new primitech or rocket variant of a shiny new design when they're struggling to come up with something that has 30 variants already.

Like I said, everyone seems to be getting something . . . did the Calderon Protectorate get one?  I know the TC did (MAD-2T), the MoC (SHD-5H & -7H), of course the OA/RA but they do not quite count.  Which leaves . . . Marian Hegemony, Filtvelt Coalition (but they got the Hound), Rim Collection, whatever broke off of the Lyrans, Illyrians, Niops, Fronc, and maybe the Aurigans.

A lot of the periphery did get pilots mentioned- pirates, Aurigans, TC, MoC, OA, and bandit kingdoms . . . has Niops gotten a noted pilot?

I want a heavy built in a workshop type environment- like the Bandersnatch originally and Cronus.

[Adacas]

Like I said, everyone seems to be getting something . . . did the Calderon Protectorate get one?  I know the TC did (MAD-2T), the MoC (SHD-5H & -7H), of course the OA/RA but they do not quite count.  Which leaves . . . Marian Hegemony, Filtvelt Coalition (but they got the Hound), Rim Collection, whatever broke off of the Lyrans, Illyrians, Niops, Fronc, and maybe the Aurigans.

A lot of the periphery did get pilots mentioned- pirates, Aurigans, TC, MoC, OA, and bandit kingdoms . . . has Niops gotten a noted pilot?

I want a heavy built in a workshop type environment- like the Bandersnatch originally and Cronus.

There is neither mech, nor outstanding pilot Marian if that's what you're aiming for, that's why my mistrust with the editorial line and what they have done with the Hegemony not even a note of mention and if of a long-dead state

Is that to see the Hegemony has factories and even one as new as built in 3099 mechs / tanks but they were unable to say that it was built there and when they insist they come out with the Locust / Commando / Centurion when that was already built in the factories (not workshops, factories) of Alphard both ATC and Marian Arms, but the Addhara Factory and possibly Pompey nothing at all

[Colt Ward]

 . . . workshop/factory for BT is the same thing, just implying method and speed of production.

As far as notable pilots . . . well, the Hegemony has only really existed in 5 eras- Clan Invasion, FCCW, Jihad, Republic and Dark Age.  Yes, they appeared before the Clans in the timeline but were a footnote for the Late SW period . . . and thus they also lack anyway to have a entry for Age of War, Star League, Early SW periods.  Not existing for half the eras limits options- and most of those notable pilots are uses of KS pilots.

[Adacas]

. . . workshop/factory for BT is the same thing, just implying method and speed of production.

As far as notable pilots . . . well, the Hegemony has only really existed in 5 eras- Clan Invasion, FCCW, Jihad, Republic and Dark Age.  Yes, they appeared before the Clans in the timeline but were a footnote for the Late SW period . . . and thus they also lack anyway to have a entry for Age of War, Star League, Early SW periods.  Not existing for half the eras limits options- and most of those notable pilots are uses of KS pilots.

And how long was the Aurigan Coalition, Randis, Fronc or the Rim Territories?

[Baldur Mekorig]

Not existing for half the eras limits options- and most of those notable pilots are uses of KS pilots.

I am surprised that Randis have such much supporters in the KS. We got like 3 Notable Pilots.