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MechWarrior Hall / Re: Word Association 36: SAY WHAT AGAIN!!!
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Fan Designs and Rules / Re: Brining the Anime Into BattleTech - The Return of the Reaction Phase
« Last post by Daemion on Today at 00:59:33 »Yeah. I'm thinking movement mode sets starting activity level:
IE - Walk would start you at Activity Level 1
Run would start you at Activity Level 2
Jump would start you at Activity Level 3
Stationary will put you at AL 1 because you can't go lower.
The only reason I think Jump should still do 3 compared to running or flying at speed is because the Mech's Pilot still has to be concerned with take-off and landing.
Aside: Something I had originally considered for this was flipping the AMM and TMM around. If, as the target, you're walking, running, or jumping, a successful reaction would impart a flat +1/2/3. But, some fast ground units can get a +4 (Or +5 if you're using the expanded TMM rules from MaxTech or Total Warfare, or it's a fast jumper/aerial unit.)
And, then, the AMM would be based on how many hexes or MP you spend to show your level of activity.
It may be a consideration for different levels of automation. But, I did decide to go for simplicity.
IE - Walk would start you at Activity Level 1
Run would start you at Activity Level 2
Jump would start you at Activity Level 3
Stationary will put you at AL 1 because you can't go lower.
The only reason I think Jump should still do 3 compared to running or flying at speed is because the Mech's Pilot still has to be concerned with take-off and landing.
Aside: Something I had originally considered for this was flipping the AMM and TMM around. If, as the target, you're walking, running, or jumping, a successful reaction would impart a flat +1/2/3. But, some fast ground units can get a +4 (Or +5 if you're using the expanded TMM rules from MaxTech or Total Warfare, or it's a fast jumper/aerial unit.)
And, then, the AMM would be based on how many hexes or MP you spend to show your level of activity.
It may be a consideration for different levels of automation. But, I did decide to go for simplicity.
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BattleMechs / Re: Refining the Wolverine 7K. Wolverine WVR-10M2. A Standard Fusion Engine WVR
« Last post by DevianID on Today at 00:44:11 »Good call on the 8C Hellraiser. The endosteel to upgrade the SRM6s to streaks is a nice damage boost. Still just as 'fragile', but the 8C has 42 damage output, compared to 34 average with the 7k, or 38 on the 10D, which is the most expensive, at almost 500 more BV then the 8C for less damage thanks to the 10Ds supercharger and RAC5.
I might swap the c3 for CASE2 on the 8C if its not going to be in a c3 network, but other then that the 8C does appear to be the most damaging wolverine factoring average cluster rolls on the 10D's RAC (as the 10D is in second place in damage), with the 7k in third factoring heat.
I might swap the c3 for CASE2 on the 8C if its not going to be in a c3 network, but other then that the 8C does appear to be the most damaging wolverine factoring average cluster rolls on the 10D's RAC (as the 10D is in second place in damage), with the 7k in third factoring heat.
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BattleMechs / Re: 'Warcriming the Militia' - Battlemechs of the WoB
« Last post by Red Pins on Today at 00:37:42 »Anndd - Another new plan. Because it contains that which promotes growth! Still have to come up with several domestic Primitives, and a couple standards though.
*edit - And 9 more domestic Primitives. But I just organized the mechs into groups of four, so...
*edit - And 9 more domestic Primitives. But I just organized the mechs into groups of four, so...
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Fan Designs and Rules / Re: Brining the Anime Into BattleTech - The Return of the Reaction Phase
« Last post by Daemion on Today at 00:29:45 »Well, you can see, then, why I was looking more at the broader, more granular heat scale as the basis.
In fact, the Movement mode modifier was a hold-over from that. Maybe instead of a multiplier, the movement mode is a simple one time addition, setting the base activity level.
So, for example, a Phoenix Hawk that runs in a turn will have it's activity level increased to level 3, while one that jumps increases to level 4, and then, any further action simply adds one to the level as the activity happens.
I would like to point out that you still get a chance to check for a reaction, no matter how many units attack you. It's still randomly determined, however after a certain point, the chances become slim. But, if you're rolling well enough, it can still happen.
But, yeah. This would mostly be for small unit actions. But, that's the level my group tends to play at, to begin with.
If I'm gonna do a proper Super Robot Wars mass unit engagement, I'd probably come up with something much simpler, like maybe a simple line or box to track the number of times a particular unit has been engaged against/declared against, and you roll against that. But, Super Robot Wars has its turns taking place as the course of a full minute, which is SIX BT turns.
In fact, the Movement mode modifier was a hold-over from that. Maybe instead of a multiplier, the movement mode is a simple one time addition, setting the base activity level.
So, for example, a Phoenix Hawk that runs in a turn will have it's activity level increased to level 3, while one that jumps increases to level 4, and then, any further action simply adds one to the level as the activity happens.
I think this system works only in a modified turn structure. Battletech is played in 5-15 turns normally, so adding a reaction phase like this cuts your turn time to 3-7 turns in the same amount of game time. I am thinking like the solaris game here, with turns having multiple steps of action and reaction, with higher weapon rates of fire and such. It works in that system a bit better cause the number of units is very low, so taking so much more time with 1 unit is more acceptable.
The point of the reaction system also seems to be to limit how much a pilot can do, but this doesnt scale like normal. If you are familiar with HBS Battletech video game, they have a similiar system where every time you are fired upon, you lose one point of evasion (but you generate a bit more evasion then normal). This works cause you have 4 total units. If you have 12 units, well now you can easily strip the evasion off of things. And, as mentioned by speedbump, like in HBS btech multiple target suppression fire, aka shooting 1 shot at every visible unit with an early activation to strip 1 evasion (or add 2 activity level, which eventually is the same thing), is a very valid tactic. In late game HBS, the standard tactic becomes to take lots of damage by getting fortified in woods, as evasion becomes less and less reliable versus large numbers of enemy units by design of stripping evasion, but fortified cover doesnt lose effectiveness unless you get melee attacked/knocked down.
I would like to point out that you still get a chance to check for a reaction, no matter how many units attack you. It's still randomly determined, however after a certain point, the chances become slim. But, if you're rolling well enough, it can still happen.
But, yeah. This would mostly be for small unit actions. But, that's the level my group tends to play at, to begin with.
If I'm gonna do a proper Super Robot Wars mass unit engagement, I'd probably come up with something much simpler, like maybe a simple line or box to track the number of times a particular unit has been engaged against/declared against, and you roll against that. But, Super Robot Wars has its turns taking place as the course of a full minute, which is SIX BT turns.
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Fan Scenarios and Campaigns / Re: Holographic training field rules?
« Last post by Charistoph on Today at 00:27:05 »You're running the game, but you don't have your own copies of their sheets?
What if someone comes to game and forgets them? You'd need to print them out again, right?
Their units, their sheets. They have the known expectation of bringing their own. They choose their Omnimech variants from what's available, or if they've earned it, an Omnimech variant they've created on their own. It's a progressive type of campaign. I create the scenario and set the OpFor, and the limitations on what is available.
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Off Topic / Re: Naval Pictures X: Underway on Nuclear Power
« Last post by worktroll on Today at 00:25:56 »her advantage was speed over those civilian ships... ;)
Methinks having a carrier air wing, with nucs, might also be advantages.
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Aerospace Combat / Re: Coventional Fighter with Fusion - Why Fuel?
« Last post by DevianID on Today at 00:06:30 »Also, as an aside, the fuel you buy in ASF isnt hydrogen with the images of fighers we have. It must be something dense instead. Hydrogen just takes up far far too much volume, and since the visuals of aerospace/conventional fusion fighters isnt a zeppelin/balloon shape, the fuel is likely some neutral liquid metal the fusion engine heats up to throw out the back as reaction mass, as conventional fighters have MASSIVE power to weight ratios compared to modern day fighters. If all the fusion engine is doing is powering an electric turbine, then like you point out you shouldnt need fuel to the extent you do, instead it should be like a Vtol which also doesnt track fuel in the tactical sense when you have a fusion engine--but you also shouldnt have the massive power to weight ratio either.
Like, a 50 ton mechbuster moving 5/8, without overthrust, can accelerate 5 hexes, which is 2500 meters, in 10 seconds. That is 2.5g, so a 2.5 to 4x thrust to weight ratio with overthrust. Seeing as 1.25 thrust to weight is class leading for modern jets, and .4 is good for airliners, I dont know what is pushing the mechbuster but its not just sucking up and moving air out a turbine. Just imagine the sound of a conventional aircraft in battletech!
Like, a 50 ton mechbuster moving 5/8, without overthrust, can accelerate 5 hexes, which is 2500 meters, in 10 seconds. That is 2.5g, so a 2.5 to 4x thrust to weight ratio with overthrust. Seeing as 1.25 thrust to weight is class leading for modern jets, and .4 is good for airliners, I dont know what is pushing the mechbuster but its not just sucking up and moving air out a turbine. Just imagine the sound of a conventional aircraft in battletech!
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General BattleTech Discussion / Re: Help finding Retrotech produced in the Jihad?
« Last post by Hellraiser on 05 May 2024, 23:48:32 »PS.
Here is that list from the MUL
Trooper TP-1R 20 236 8 Scout XTR:Primitives V XTR:Primitives V Advanced 2475
Wasp WSP-1 20 314 11 Scout XTR:Primitives II XTR:Primitives II Experimental 2464
Commando COM-1A 25 475 13 Scout XTR:Primitives I XTR:Primitives I Advanced 2463
Commando COM-1AK 25 533 16 Scout TtS:Kaumberg TtS:Kaumberg Advanced 3072
Pathfinder PFF-2 25 452 16 Scout XTR:RetroTech XTR:RetroTech Advanced 3075
Pathfinder PFF-2T 25 None XTR:RetroTech None Advanced 3075
Firebee FRB-1E (WAM-B) 35 514 15 Brawler XTR:Primitives III XTR:Primitives III Advanced 2483
Toro TR-A-1 35 671 20 Brawler XTR:Primitives IV XTR:Primitives IV Advanced 2481
Icarus ICR-1X 40 700 20 Brawler XTR:Primitives II XTR:Primitives II Advanced 2470
Kyudo KY2-D-01 45 748 21 Missile Boat XTR:Primitives I XTR:Primitives I Advanced 2443
Centurion CN9-H 50 848 20 Brawler XTR:RetroTech XTR:RetroTech Advanced 3077
Phoenix PX-1KC 50 766 20 Brawler TtS:Kaumberg TtS:Kaumberg Advanced 3065
Phoenix PX-1KL 50 930 24 Brawler TtS:Kaumberg TtS:Kaumberg Advanced 3070
Phoenix PX-1KR 50 760 22 Brawler TtS:Kaumberg TtS:Kaumberg Advanced 3079
Phoenix PX-1KT 50 857 23 Brawler TtS:Kaumberg TtS:Kaumberg Advanced 3070
Phoenix PX-1R 50 917 21 Brawler XTR:Primitives V XTR:Primitives V Advanced 2474
Rifleman RFL-1N 50 931 22 Brawler XTR:Primitives IV XTR:Primitives IV Advanced 2504
Sarissa MN1-D 50 850 21 Brawler XTR:Marik XTR:Marik Experimental 3080
Sarissa MN1-K 50 None XTR:Marik None Unknown Unknown
Shadow Hawk SHD-1R 50 851 22 Sniper XTR:Primitives I XTR:Primitives I Advanced 2467
Dervish DV-1S 55 864 25 Missile Boat XTR:Primitives III XTR:Primitives III Advanced 2520
Gladiator GLD-1R 55 1,027 27 Brawler XTR:Primitives II XTR:Primitives II Advanced 2468
Rook NH-1A 55 1,197 27 Juggernaut JHS:3076 RS:3085u-CE Advanced 3074
Rook NH-1X "Rook-X" 55 1,187 27 Juggernaut XTR:RetroTech XTR:RetroTech Experimental 3077
Wolverine WVR-1R 55 885 23 Skirmisher XTR:Primitives V XTR:Primitives V Experimental 2471
Bellerophon BEL-1X 60 957 24 Brawler XTR:Primitives III XTR:Primitives III Advanced 2442
Griffin GRF-1A 60 1,024 25 Sniper XTR:Primitives IV XTR:Primitives IV Experimental 2465
Ostwar OWR-2M 65 1,205 34 Juggernaut XTR:Primitives I XTR:Primitives I Advanced 2470
Thunderbolt TDR-1C 65 1,237 33 Missile Boat XTR:Primitives III XTR:Primitives III Advanced 2491
Archer ARC-1A 70 1,269 36 Missile Boat XTR:Primitives V XTR:Primitives V Advanced 2458
BattleAxe BKX-1X 70 1,079 31 Juggernaut XTR:Primitives II XTR:Primitives II Advanced 2459
Hector HOR-1B 70 949 24 Brawler ED:AoW ED:AoW Advanced 2471
Helepolis HEP-1H 75 1,063 41 Missile Boat XTR:Primitives I XTR:Primitives I Advanced 2460
HawkWolf HWK-3F 80 1,349 36 Missile Boat XTR:RetroTech XTR:RetroTech Experimental 3076
Emperor EMP-1A 90 1,453 40 Juggernaut XTR:Primitives IV XTR:Primitives IV Advanced 2442
Ymir BWP-X1 90 1,194 34 Missile Boat XTR:Primitives V XTR:Primitives V Advanced 2462
Mackie MSK-5S 100 1,436 36 Sniper XTR:Primitives I XTR:Primitives I Advanced 2439
Mackie MSK-6S 100 1,461 36 Juggernaut TR:3075 RS:3075u-AW Advanced 2443
Xanthos XNT-2O 100 1,300 35 Juggernaut XTR:Primitives IV XTR:Primitives IV Advanced 2564
Here is that list from the MUL
Trooper TP-1R 20 236 8 Scout XTR:Primitives V XTR:Primitives V Advanced 2475
Wasp WSP-1 20 314 11 Scout XTR:Primitives II XTR:Primitives II Experimental 2464
Commando COM-1A 25 475 13 Scout XTR:Primitives I XTR:Primitives I Advanced 2463
Commando COM-1AK 25 533 16 Scout TtS:Kaumberg TtS:Kaumberg Advanced 3072
Pathfinder PFF-2 25 452 16 Scout XTR:RetroTech XTR:RetroTech Advanced 3075
Pathfinder PFF-2T 25 None XTR:RetroTech None Advanced 3075
Firebee FRB-1E (WAM-B) 35 514 15 Brawler XTR:Primitives III XTR:Primitives III Advanced 2483
Toro TR-A-1 35 671 20 Brawler XTR:Primitives IV XTR:Primitives IV Advanced 2481
Icarus ICR-1X 40 700 20 Brawler XTR:Primitives II XTR:Primitives II Advanced 2470
Kyudo KY2-D-01 45 748 21 Missile Boat XTR:Primitives I XTR:Primitives I Advanced 2443
Centurion CN9-H 50 848 20 Brawler XTR:RetroTech XTR:RetroTech Advanced 3077
Phoenix PX-1KC 50 766 20 Brawler TtS:Kaumberg TtS:Kaumberg Advanced 3065
Phoenix PX-1KL 50 930 24 Brawler TtS:Kaumberg TtS:Kaumberg Advanced 3070
Phoenix PX-1KR 50 760 22 Brawler TtS:Kaumberg TtS:Kaumberg Advanced 3079
Phoenix PX-1KT 50 857 23 Brawler TtS:Kaumberg TtS:Kaumberg Advanced 3070
Phoenix PX-1R 50 917 21 Brawler XTR:Primitives V XTR:Primitives V Advanced 2474
Rifleman RFL-1N 50 931 22 Brawler XTR:Primitives IV XTR:Primitives IV Advanced 2504
Sarissa MN1-D 50 850 21 Brawler XTR:Marik XTR:Marik Experimental 3080
Sarissa MN1-K 50 None XTR:Marik None Unknown Unknown
Shadow Hawk SHD-1R 50 851 22 Sniper XTR:Primitives I XTR:Primitives I Advanced 2467
Dervish DV-1S 55 864 25 Missile Boat XTR:Primitives III XTR:Primitives III Advanced 2520
Gladiator GLD-1R 55 1,027 27 Brawler XTR:Primitives II XTR:Primitives II Advanced 2468
Rook NH-1A 55 1,197 27 Juggernaut JHS:3076 RS:3085u-CE Advanced 3074
Rook NH-1X "Rook-X" 55 1,187 27 Juggernaut XTR:RetroTech XTR:RetroTech Experimental 3077
Wolverine WVR-1R 55 885 23 Skirmisher XTR:Primitives V XTR:Primitives V Experimental 2471
Bellerophon BEL-1X 60 957 24 Brawler XTR:Primitives III XTR:Primitives III Advanced 2442
Griffin GRF-1A 60 1,024 25 Sniper XTR:Primitives IV XTR:Primitives IV Experimental 2465
Ostwar OWR-2M 65 1,205 34 Juggernaut XTR:Primitives I XTR:Primitives I Advanced 2470
Thunderbolt TDR-1C 65 1,237 33 Missile Boat XTR:Primitives III XTR:Primitives III Advanced 2491
Archer ARC-1A 70 1,269 36 Missile Boat XTR:Primitives V XTR:Primitives V Advanced 2458
BattleAxe BKX-1X 70 1,079 31 Juggernaut XTR:Primitives II XTR:Primitives II Advanced 2459
Hector HOR-1B 70 949 24 Brawler ED:AoW ED:AoW Advanced 2471
Helepolis HEP-1H 75 1,063 41 Missile Boat XTR:Primitives I XTR:Primitives I Advanced 2460
HawkWolf HWK-3F 80 1,349 36 Missile Boat XTR:RetroTech XTR:RetroTech Experimental 3076
Emperor EMP-1A 90 1,453 40 Juggernaut XTR:Primitives IV XTR:Primitives IV Advanced 2442
Ymir BWP-X1 90 1,194 34 Missile Boat XTR:Primitives V XTR:Primitives V Advanced 2462
Mackie MSK-5S 100 1,436 36 Sniper XTR:Primitives I XTR:Primitives I Advanced 2439
Mackie MSK-6S 100 1,461 36 Juggernaut TR:3075 RS:3075u-AW Advanced 2443
Xanthos XNT-2O 100 1,300 35 Juggernaut XTR:Primitives IV XTR:Primitives IV Advanced 2564
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General BattleTech Discussion / Re: Help finding Retrotech produced in the Jihad?
« Last post by Hellraiser on 05 May 2024, 23:47:04 »I'm curious.
What did you find wrong with the list from the MUL when you selected the following?
Tech = Primitive
Availability = Jihad
That should give you anything that was available in the Jihad.
And by default, since I'd think most Primitive tech was "Extinct" prior to the Jihad, if it shows up again its because its "In Production".
As I mentioned above the "Production Era" field is only for the first era that something is created, its Introduction Era, not every era its in production.
What did you find wrong with the list from the MUL when you selected the following?
Tech = Primitive
Availability = Jihad
That should give you anything that was available in the Jihad.
And by default, since I'd think most Primitive tech was "Extinct" prior to the Jihad, if it shows up again its because its "In Production".
As I mentioned above the "Production Era" field is only for the first era that something is created, its Introduction Era, not every era its in production.
