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BattleTech Miniatures and Terrain => Iron Wind Metals News and Announcements => Topic started by: jimdigris on 18 January 2016, 20:40:54
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What minis have been or are being sculpted that we can look forward to?
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2 Highlander Resculpt Variants (734 & 738 if I recall) based off the recently released new Highlander Resculpt.
Arctic Wolf II A, B, C (last I heard they were having CAD issues).
Thor II A & B (last I heard they were having CAD issues).
Vulture MK III (last I heard they were having CAD issues).
Black Knight "Red Reaper"...should hopefully be out soon, but I honestly haven't heard anything.
Arion...no word.
Chimera & 2K variant...no word.
I don't know if any of the CAD issues have been resolved or not, the last I heard, they weren't. Beyond that...I don't know what else is in the pipe.
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All unsubstantiated, but the Centurion Omni, Gotterdammerung, Juliano, and Templar III all showed up as preorders on my FLGS' website. They aren't in the habit of posting a lot of BT-related vaporware so I'm partially inclined to believe that at least some of these are planned for 2016.
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Also, there is the Arion and Chimera resculpts coming, not sure on timing on those though. Quite a few more in the works, but that is all I can say ;)
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Also, there is the Arion and Chimera resculpts coming, not sure on timing on those though. Quite a few more in the works, but that is all I can say ;)
Completely forgot about those! I've added them to my list as well.
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Well i've made 5 sculpts for ironwind so far that to my knowledge have not yet been released.
The Vulture MKIII (I have no idea what happened with that)
The Rifleman III (I have no idea what happened with that)
The Lu Wei Bing
The Quasimodo
The Gün
The Lu Wei Bing and quasimodo I handed those in late hence why they have probably not been released yet. But myself and ironwind have since changed our workflow a bit so that handing in models late will hopefully no longer happen (at least on my end) there are some others in the pipeline though that have not been announced yet that I am working on.
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I have seen an assembled Lu Wei Bing and it looked awesome. Congrats Sentinel!
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I have seen an assembled Lu Wei Bing and it looked awesome. Congrats Sentinel!
I look forward to seeing the mini myself. It's funny i often get to see my miniatures after they are in stores and to this day i have never seen any of my "official" miniatures in real life even though i've been doing this for two years now.
Alex Iglesias's designs are often quite tricky to do because they have so much visual detail and stuff that often does not translate well to miniatures. I think the Lu wei is the mech i've spent the most time working on except for maybe the Ares.
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I hope the Thor II A and Juliano are indeed a thing. Would love to buy those.
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I hope the Thor II A and Juliano are indeed a thing. Would love to buy those.
Like this?
(https://www.ironwindmetals.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/ThorIIA.PNG)
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...Centurion Omni, Gotterdammerung, Juliano, and Templar III...
I want...well, all of those!
I've got my fingers crossed that there aren't so many itty-bitty pieces with these upcoming models. I'm working on putting together a Havoc and a Tiburon right now, and it's not exactly the most fun I've had constructing a mini. I could deal with all the parts on the bigger stuff like the Stalker II and Kodiak II, but these little guys are giving me fits. Oh, and to whomever is working on the Centurion omni, pretty-please, make that row of canisters on the shoulder all one piece that I can glue on rather than a bunch of separate little cylinder pieces. Trying to get those same things attached to my Ghost in something resembling a straight line with a pair of tweezers was painful!
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...Centurion Omni, Gotterdammerung, Juliano, and Templar III...
Just got confirmation yesterday, these are correct & are set for 2nd Quarter!
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Confirmation from whom?
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As Dragon is an online retailer he probably got it straight from the "horse's mouth"
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Confirmation from whom?
Directly from Melissa at Iron Wind Metals
As Dragon is an online retailer he probably got it straight from the "horse's mouth"
Yep!
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Yeah, Stinger is working hard on the Centurion Omni.
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Yeah, Stinger is working hard on the Centurion Omni.
Ha! Then we know it will turn out stellar!!!
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I'm working on the Juliano, and this years con special :)
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Ha! Then we know it will turn out stellar!!!
Thanks! Your confidence means a lot!!
I am planning two alt configs too :-)
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Thanks! Your confidence means a lot!!
I am planning two alt configs too :-)
That's great! Wish more Omni configurations came with an extra variant or two...but I know in speaking with IWM, costs can be prohibitive.
I'm working on the Juliano, and this years con special :)
Knowing you...you'll knock it out of the park!
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I am super excited to hear about the centurion not only being produced, but having variants as well. Sounds like the IWM release schedule post is a little out of date. ;)
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What about the classic Warhammer? They've had a prototype for at least 6 months.
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What about the classic Warhammer? They've had a prototype for at least 6 months.
I made that prototype for Catalyst, not Ironwind. Although I wouldn't rule out the posibility of it going to Ironwind at some point.
But whatever happens with that mini it's up to Catalyst.
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What about the classic Warhammer? They've had a prototype for at least 6 months.
From what I've understood, Catalyst will have the "Classics" first, in plastic. At some point IWM "MIGHT" produce them in metal, but I don't recall them ever officially saying they will.
Now...there's a LOT of rumors out there, such as the Classics being in an Alpha Strike Box Set. BOTH the assumption of them appearing in said box set, and the box set itself...have NOT been confirmed officially. It's all rumor at this time.
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From what I've understood, Catalyst will have the "Classics" first, in plastic. At some point IWM "MIGHT" produce them in metal, but I don't recall them ever officially saying they will.
I don't know if it still stands, but at Gencon last year during the What's up with Catalyst panel they said it would be in both plastic and metal.
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Like this?
(Pic of Thor II A)
Yessssss
And good to hear about the Juliano, too. Looking forward to what Sentinel comes up with.
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So what happened to the IWM release schedule thread? Is it gone for forever?
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It is now on their website: IWM release schedule
2015 2016 webpage (http://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/release-schedule-2016)
Edit - corrected year
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Nice. Thor II A and B, plus the Juliano... that'll keep me busy for a while.
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So what happened to the IWM release schedule thread? Is it gone for forever?
I will be created a new post with several links in it. Just ran out of time the other night and got home late from work yesterday. Will be posted tonight.
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So what happened to the IWM release schedule thread? Is it gone for forever?
Someday I will find the source of the panicked paranoia that seems to grip so many members of these forums on occasion. When I find it...I will not be merciful. >:(
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Quote from: jimdigris on 24 January 2016, 11:13:31
What about the classic Warhammer? They've had a prototype for at least 6 months.
From what I've understood, Catalyst will have the "Classics" first, in plastic. At some point IWM "MIGHT" produce them in metal, but I don't recall them ever officially saying they will.
Now...there's a LOT of rumors out there, such as the Classics being in an Alpha Strike Box Set. BOTH the assumption of them appearing in said box set, and the box set itself...have NOT been confirmed officially. It's all rumor at this time.
I hope someone is working very hard at bringing these to market. I don't know anyone who doesn't want several of them. Getting them up for sale should be about the equivalent of printing money.
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Centurion Omni??? I already have like two dozen CN-9's! Now I HAVE to get two dozen Omnis! not to replace, but because they are my favorite mech!
WHY IRONWIND! WHY DO YOU LOVE MY BANK ACCOUNT SO!
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Someday I will find the source of the panicked paranoia that seems to grip so many members of these forums on occasion. When I find it...I will not be merciful. >:(
Listen, I'll turn down the Fear generator.
I'm still keeping it online though.
I have to maintain some control over the populace.
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Can't you just use a battle station like everyone else? Your befuddlement beam needs calibrating.
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So I can't share images of the Omni yet, still waiting on some final details approval, but I can say that it looks vastly better than both the DA mini and the art >:D
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That is disconcerting. But I will still eagerly await the final miniature and decide from there like always.
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So I can't share images of the Omni yet, still waiting on some final details approval, but I can say that it looks vastly better than both the DA mini and the art >:D
I believe you'd did it justice. As much as I like the Centurion I hate the DA look it was given.
Heavyguard
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... but I can say that it looks vastly better than both the DA mini and the art >:D
I can attest to that. Stinger's sculpt turned this from a Mech I didn't much care about into a Mech that is very high on my "must have" list.
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So, I have to ask. The Centurion Omni: Are the little cylinders on the left shoulder individual pieces like on the Ghost, or somehow all connected/molded together, more like the Legionnaire? I'm buying one either way, just curious.
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I can attest to that. Stinger's sculpt turned this from a Mech I didn't much care about into a Mech that is very high on my "must have" list.
Before I was excited for this mini. Now I'm frothing at the mouth for its release. I'm definately buying multiple since I will be using it as the omni and as a proxy for the originals. I wonder which variants got made. I'm already planning on kitbashing the YLW3 from OTP:CC
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So, I have to ask. The Centurion Omni: Are the little cylinders on the left shoulder individual pieces like on the Ghost, or somehow all connected/molded together, more like the Legionnaire? I'm buying one either way, just curious.
Unfortunately, the cylinders are separate pieces. It is a necessity of the way the minis are cast, just no way around it.
Before I was excited for this mini. Now I'm frothing at the mouth for its release. I'm definately buying multiple since I will be using it as the omni and as a proxy for the originals. I wonder which variants got made. I'm already planning on kitbashing the YLW3 from OTP:CC
These are not set in stone, but we are looking at the Prime (obviously), the A, and the C. I just finished my mock-up of the A, still have to do the jump pack for the C...
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Yeah, I will definitely have to find a better way to manage getting those little cylinders on straight. I had a heck of a time getting a secure enough hold on them to really control the angle they were sitting at. No worries. I'll figure something out.
Interesting choices on the cent variants. I would have thought the D would show up because it is the most radically different, visually speaking. Of course, my undying love for hatchets probably colored my expectations a bit! It would be interesting to know what makes a variant a 'winner' in terms of making it to production. Obviously how well they think it will sell is a big part, but I'm sure there is more to it than that.
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Unfortunately, the cylinders are separate pieces. It is a necessity of the way the minis are cast, just no way around it.
Personally I think it looks better without the cylinders, they are a part of why the art looks so cartoonly. (just my personal opinion)
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i look forward to gluing my fingers together while assembling this one ;D
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i look forward to gluing my fingers together while assembling this one ;D
A proper miniatures assembler always puts a little bit of himself in every mini. :)
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A proper miniatures assembler always puts a little bit of himself in every mini. :)
Quoted for truth.
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A proper miniatures assembler always puts a little bit of himself in every mini. :)
Oh good. I was afraid that all the blood meant I was doing it wrong.
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Just as a note, because the heat sinks will be very fiddly, I am making sure there is an extra sink in the blister, just in case you drop one...
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These are not set in stone, but we are looking at the Prime (obviously), the A, and the C. I just finished my mock-up of the A, still have to do the jump pack for the C...
So then, are we looking at 3 separate minis, or 1 with alternate parts? Or 2, with 1 having alternate parts? ???
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So then, are we looking at 3 separate minis, or 1 with alternate parts? Or 2, with 1 having alternate parts? ???
Ironwind ultimately has final say, but I recommended that the Prime/C be in the same blister (given the main difference between the two is the jump jets), and then the A would sold as an online exclusive separately.
But, like I said, it is ultimately up to IWM, and they may decide to sell the C separately online also.
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Thanks for the Info! O0 I guess we'll find out what they went with in a few months? :)
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Approved Templar III orthos...
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/LKY13_WRC/Templar%20III_zpsnvzsusqg.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/user/LKY13_WRC/media/Templar%20III_zpsnvzsusqg.jpg.html)
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i want it
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I think I may have just said, "My precious!", out loud...yep, the wife is giving me a funny look...definitely out loud. I think it's safe to say I will be picking up a Templar III when it comes out.
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Hey all! Finally got the go ahead to share this!
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m579/mccross90/Centurion%20Omni/Image_zpsr9jc16lf.png)
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Stinger...
I'm guessing it's due to the TRO art...but this looks skinny versus the TRO. Any reason...or is it because I'm a sleep deprived father or a 2 year old and new born twins as of April 28th?
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Stinger...
I'm guessing it's due to the TRO art...but this looks skinny versus the TRO. Any reason...or is it because I'm a sleep deprived father or a 2 year old and new born twins as of April 28th?
So, there are quite a few reasons it is taller (I like to say taller, not skinnnier :D) than the TRO art. This is a fusion between the TRO art and the DA mini. TRO art is too short and wide, while the DA mini, is, well, wonky.
Truth is, it shares the same proportions with the 3050U centurion. There is actually a blockout of a 3050 Centurion in there, deep inside. Well, if you hit undo a million times on the model you'll eventually get a 3050 centurion.
The mini itself stands somewhere between a PP Wolverine and a Wolverine II both in height and mass.
And God bless your soul. I thought my 14 month old was keeping me busy enough...
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I like it. Kind of a blend between old and new. How is the pose-ability?
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OK cool Stinger...thanks for the breakdown. We're there any extra variant parts, or are you unable to say?
Yeah...the twins are really testing the limits of insanity brought on by sleep deprivation.
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I like it. Kind of a blend between old and new. How is the pose-ability?
Pretty Poseable. 2x Feet, 2xLegs, Hips, Torso, Head, 2xArms, 2x Jump Jets, 6x Heat Sinks (1 Extra in case you drop one :D). I originally had the feet and legs as one, but had to break them up for molding purposes.
OK cool Stinger...thanks for the breakdown. We're there any extra variant parts, or are you unable to say?
Yeah...the twins are really testing the limits of insanity brought on by sleep deprivation.
Alt A is going to be sold separately as an online exclusive, but I can't share as it is still awaiting an BT code. The main blister is the Prime/C, with the main difference between the two being the jump jets.
And best of luck with your little monsters my friend!
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Let me just say both 'Oooooo!' and 'Aaaaaah!' I was 90% sure I would end up buying at least one of the omni centurions (well, most of the current crop of releases actually), but I wanted to wait and see the final product first. I like what you did with it, as the TRO art just felt a little chubby to me compared to the non-omni Centurion. I can see how most of it just got taller, but it looks like the waist/hip area is a fair bit different. Much less of an apron/genital-shield type of look than the TRO. Not saying it is good or bad, just different.
Oh, and thanks for the extra heat-sink. I still hate them and will glue at least three solidly to my fingers instead of the arm, but I can't argue that they are neat details once they are on!
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Let me just say both 'Oooooo!' and 'Aaaaaah!' I was 90% sure I would end up buying at least one of the omni centurions (well, most of the current crop of releases actually), but I wanted to wait and see the final product first. I like what you did with it, as the TRO art just felt a little chubby to me compared to the non-omni Centurion. I can see how most of it just got taller, but it looks like the waist/hip area is a fair bit different. Much less of an apron/genital-shield type of look than the TRO. Not saying it is good or bad, just different.
So, if you actually had the apron as it was in the TRO art, the legs couldn't be posed.
Fun fact: Brent Evans mentioned that the original hip plate on the original dark age mini was upside down and went into production like that anyways. That idiosyncrasy was transferred to the TRO art, and only finally fixed right here.
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Approved Templar III orthos...
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/LKY13_WRC/Templar%20III_zpsnvzsusqg.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/user/LKY13_WRC/media/Templar%20III_zpsnvzsusqg.jpg.html)
That is one slick looking robot. O0
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Indeed. Bonus points if one can use these legs, instead of the crap existing legs, on the Templar ...
W.
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...6x Heat Sinks...
Oh good, so I can leave them right the hell off. ;D
I mean no offense, but those are my least-favorite aspect of the MWDA style.
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Oh good, so I can leave them right the hell off. ;D
I mean no offense, but those are my least-favorite aspect of the MWDA style.
Haha, totally get that. I tried to leave them off myself, but that got shot down incredibly quick. The holes should be super easy to fill.
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Haha, totally get that. I tried to leave them off myself, but that got shot down incredibly quick. The holes should be super easy to fill.
Yup, a little superglue or green stuff should do the job.
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So, if you actually had the apron as it was in the TRO art, the legs couldn't be posed.
Fun fact: Brent Evans mentioned that the original hip plate on the original dark age mini was upside down and went into production like that anyways. That idiosyncrasy was transferred to the TRO art, and only finally fixed right here.
I figured that was the reason. Although, the idea of a mech taking tiny little baby-steps so it doesn't rip it's own armor apart is amusing!
So, are you doing the Templar III as well? I only ask because I WANT IT BADLY!!!!
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I figured that was the reason. Although, the idea of a mech taking tiny little baby-steps so it doesn't rip it's own armor apart is amusing!
So, are you doing the Templar III as well? I only ask because I WANT IT BADLY!!!!
Templar III is actually already done and likely molded. It was done by B3 (the fan finance guy). It looks awesome. Spot on to IAMCLANWOLF's orthos.
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Spot on to IAMCLANWOLF's orthos.
No, it looks much better. Can't wait!!
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Happy happy joy joy!
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No, it looks much better. Can't wait!!
I am not a Davion fan. However that Orthos looks pretty good, combined with that statement from you, it sounds like Davion fans are about to be very lucky.
Congratulations Davion fans O0
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Or anyone picking one up through trade or salvage.
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I actually got a full lance of those centurion omnis coming into my lgs soon. Color me stoked!
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I've got a pair each of the RFL III and Centurion Omni ordered from House Kurita! O0 I mean, Dragon41673! :D
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For all of you ordering Centurions, if you could PM me after you assemble it, I would love some feedback. What was good, what was bad, could it use more detail, parts are gluing well, anything! It'll help me make better minis in the future!
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my FLGS's distributor still has the Q2 stuff as pre-order :'(
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For all of you ordering Centurions, if you could PM me after you assemble it, I would love some feedback. What was good, what was bad, could it use more detail, parts are gluing well, anything! It'll help me make better minis in the future!
Picking my lance of em up today
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Any updates on the web-only releases for this year? It looks like the Q1 and Q2 general releases are all out now, but so far the only web release has been the Rifleman III. It's a pretty cool sculpt, but The Vulture III and the Thor II variants are really more my style!
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Any updates on the web-only releases for this year? It looks like the Q1 and Q2 general releases are all out now, but so far the only web release has been the Rifleman III. It's a pretty cool sculpt, but The Vulture III and the Thor II variants are really more my style!
A bunch of web only items will be releasing soon.
More to come
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A bunch of web only items will be releasing soon.
More to come
So much good stuff coming... Unannounced good stuff...
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I feel a great disturbance in my wallet!
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Now that they have been announced...
Stinger & Sentinel....let's see those renders!!!
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Now that they have been announced...
Stinger & Sentinel....let's see those renders!!!
Let's see what I have easily available...
Pendragon:
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m579/mccross90/Pendragon/1R_zps43pvjzkp.png)(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m579/mccross90/Pendragon/3R_zpsaujpyma3.png)(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m579/mccross90/Pendragon/Posed_zpsbczu1eqk.png)
Centurion:
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m579/mccross90/Centurion/Capture_zpsoi13c5ra.png)(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m579/mccross90/Centurion/Capture_zpslo8sn8vi.png)
Centurion Omni Alt A:
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m579/mccross90/Centurion%20Omni/Capture_zpsrrtobbkg.jpg)
I believe everyone has seen the Chimera, Arctic Wolf, and Arion images. I can get a link to those if need be...
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I only hope the pendragon isn't as stiff as its forefather the Templar!
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I only hope the pendragon isn't as stiff as its forefather the Templar!
Legs are two pieces so you can have more movement in them. Overall it is very nice mini.
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i assembled the centurion omni today and did not feel the urge to commit homicide. the shoulder studs went into place far more easily than i had anticipated
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i assembled the centurion omni today and did not feel the urge to commit homicide. the shoulder studs went into place far more easily than i had anticipated
I think that is the best compliment on the mini I have received thus far :D O0
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At first glance, the Omniturion A looks like it's got a mouth full of fangs in the middle of it's chest.
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I believe everyone has seen the Chimera
Chimera, where?
EDIT Found it. Loos nice!
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I had seen the full list of goodies expected a few days ago...and to say there are a few surprises is an understatement. A whale of an understatement!
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Hey, the new Centurion - and not just the Omni - was surprise enough for me.
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Can't wait to see what the HGR Highlander looks like.
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pendragon!
edit: i don't see the arctic wolf ii prime on the list. oversight or intentional?
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pendragon!
edit: i don't see the arctic wolf ii prime on the list. oversight or intentional?
It's here. Forgot to add it to the post. Will go up on the website after show.
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The AW II Prime is in the big list of convention stock.
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So, I know this is a bit of thread necro, but hey, the Roadrunner and Hound (and Shad and Gauntlet) are now at game stores!
Here are some pics of the Hound and Roadrunner:
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m579/mccross90/Hound/1_zpsv2fzg9rk.png)
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m579/mccross90/Roadrunner/Ortho_zpshn86yeu5.jpg)
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Very nice, just placed my order for them, thanks for posting them up, please keep posting the sneak peaks.
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They look great!
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I was just on the IWM website and I can't find the Roadrunner there for purchase. Has it really been released? Is it only in brick-and-mortar FLGS at the moment? Thanks!
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That's the way it works for standard releases. They are released to stores and online retailers first. Then a month or two later, they appear on the IWM webstore.
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Oh thanks, I wasn't sure. I'm really looking forward to getting this little guy!
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Kiff...as others have said, they are available outside IWM first, then about a month or so later, IWM will list it on their site. This gives retailers like myself a chance to sell them ahead of when IWM does.
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Gotcha.
Does anybody know the size of this mini? I'm under the impression that IWM is trying to keep 'mechs much more 'in scale' with one another now, and I'd like to know how physically big this model is going to be. I'm hoping it's not too small.
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<CharletonHeston> You Maniacs! You moved it up! You moved up the release date of the Shadow Hawk! Bless you! Bless you all to Heaven!</CharletonHeston> O0
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Gotcha.
Does anybody know the size of this mini? I'm under the impression that IWM is trying to keep 'mechs much more 'in scale' with one another now, and I'd like to know how physically big this model is going to be. I'm hoping it's not too small.
It is likely the smallest 'Mech ever made. Take a look at it compared to other recent sculpts. I don't have the roadrunner in metal yet myself.
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m579/mccross90/Assembly1_zpskh7ezjxc.png)
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Yep. Getting one of those. That's awesome. Might be fun to pair up with my Protomechs.
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Yep. Getting one of those. That's awesome. Might be fun to pair up with my Protomechs.
You have protomechs?
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You have protomechs?
Everyone has ProtoMechs, whether they want them or not.
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How many parts is the Hound? I was looking for it . . . might need to drive across town to see the store if they have it.
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Same question for thee roadrunner. I would guess at least 5 or 7 parts? torso, 2 arms, 2 legs and 2 upper leg shields...
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Roadrunner is 5 pieces, torso, 2 legs, and 2 arms. The shield's conveniently fit on the legs permanently.
The hound is 11 pieces. 2 Feet, 2 legs, hips, torso, 2 arms, SRM, LPPCs, and the autocannon. The arm weapons are separate for both modeling and molding reasons.
You people need to show some pics as soon as you have them assembled!!
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Hmm, lots of parts . . . but if they are built like other 3145 minis not such a big problem.
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Everyone has ProtoMechs, whether they want them or not.
Not me! :D I "won" a blister of some on eBay a few years back, along with some minis that I actually WANTED, then eventually was able to trade the useless (to ME!) things off. O0 I kept them away from the rest of my Collection, so at least the rest of my minis didn't get tainted. ;D
How does the Roadrunner compare to the Unseen Baboon? ??? That sucker is a tiny thing also! :o
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Hmm, lots of parts . . . but if they are built like other 3145 minis not such a big problem.
Fun fact, if a mech has split toes, it will usually have two part legs. It's a necessity of the molding process.
And this one should be pretty easy to assemble. The joints are all cylinders, so they will stay together a bit better.
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Including drying time, I put my Orca together in about 30 minutes. I can't imagine smaller miniatures, made under the same standards, would take longer.
By the way, here's the Roadrunner in its blister...
(http://i.imgur.com/4HeFFka.jpg)
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Its not the time . . . its getting the pieces to solidly hold since I do not pin.
The Project Phoenix mechs and some of the others at that time were horrible- I like my Solitaire but its run pose has the legs stretched out beyond one hex. So when the part count gets really high I get flashbacks.
With that said, I have picked up the Juliano, Havoc and Quasimodo . . . all were good and easy to put together, and all had more than the 4 or 5 parts I was buying from minis with molds made back in '03.
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Fun fact, if a mech has split toes, it will usually have two part legs. It's a necessity of the molding process.
This may sound like a dumb question (and it probably is ;D ), but why is that?
Anyway, as for the Shad, I had a meeting with the Military Appropriations Committee (i.e. my wallet) and with any luck, on Saturday two shiny new SHD-2Hs will be waiting for me at The War House :)
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Wow! I may change idea this Christmas and get one or two of those and make a ''meep-meep'' run :p
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Its not the time . . . its getting the pieces to solidly hold since I do not pin.
That's my point, too. When the pieces don't hold well, it takes me longer to build a piece. All the new sculpts I've bought have gone together quickly, unlike some older pieces I could name.
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Anyway, as for the Shad, I had a meeting with the Military Appropriations Committee (i.e. my wallet) and with any luck, on Saturday two shiny new SHD-2Hs will be waiting for me at The War House :)
Just got mine in the mail yesterday! Assembling it tonight. Now to decide which formerly all unseen unit scheme I should paint it in... a company shall follow soon once the other classics come out.
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Including drying time, I put my Orca together in about 30 minutes. I can't imagine smaller miniatures, made under the same standards, would take longer.
By the way, here's the Roadrunner in its blister...
(http://i.imgur.com/4HeFFka.jpg)
Thanks ColBosch!!
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First one to post the hound or roadrunner assembled gets 1000 fake internet points!!!
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Stinger - the Roadrunner looks great.
I now have this terrible urge to buy a Roadrunner RD-1R [20-5139] and paint it up in Looney Tunes Roadrunner colours. Also purchase a Rabid Coyote (Standard) [AR20-222] and paint it up in Wylie E Coyote colours . . . >:D
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This may sound like a dumb question (and it probably is ;D ), but why is that?
Not dumb at all.
Molds are made with two halves, right? Well, if you want to get the leg decently cast, they usually go from left to right. If the foot were part of the leg, then the mold would have to go in between the toes. Because of that, when the two halves of the mold are pulled apart, the mold itself may rip, thus making a bad cast in the future. To prevent tears we can separate the feet from the leg.
I actually had to do this for the Centurion Omni. It was originally going to have one piece legs, but that had to be changed for molding purposes.
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Everyone has ProtoMechs, whether they want them or not.
Not a single one in my collection of nearly 1000 minis. Not a one.
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Nor me. In my case, I think the cane toads may be protecting me :)
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Okay, unlike a lot of people here I am loathe to tell IWM how to run thier shop....
THAT SAID the Sprue that contains all of the guns for the Hound Mini needs to be in the scrapyard like NOW. short Double barrled thing, long barreled thing and small missile box. it is a Modders Dream!
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I will admit, I liked the gun sprue from the Legionnaire . . . had an extra one rather than the exhaust/fist sprue- those Legionnaire K PPCs are going to look great on a Kurita PPC Catapult.
Now I just need to see about that Hound . . .
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Stinger - the Roadrunner looks great.
I now have this terrible urge to buy a Roadrunner RD-1R [20-5139] and paint it up in Looney Tunes Roadrunner colours. Also purchase a Rabid Coyote (Standard) [AR20-222] and paint it up in Wylie E Coyote colours . . . >:D
Heck, I plan to take a Baboon and make it into a TZ-1 Devil painted up as Taz ;D
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Any word of the new Ostscout yet?
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Any word of the new Ostscout yet?
Is it Q4 yet? :)
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Looks like the Catalyst Tumblr wins the 1000 fake internet points!
http://catalystgamelabs.tumblr.com/post/150741540721/new-battletech-miniatures
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Stinger, I have to say when you showed the 3D image of the Hound, I was a little ... meh. But the mini in reality ... rocks! O0 Great looking work!
W.
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Stinger, I have to say when you showed the 3D image of the Hound, I was a little ... meh. But the mini in reality ... rocks! O0 Great looking work!
W.
I typically I have the same opinion looking at the 3D renders. I always wait to see it in metal form.
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Heck, I plan to take a Baboon and make it into a TZ-1 Devil painted up as Taz ;D
Brilliant O0
I have a plastic Intro Box Panther that I am painting up for my 5-year old daughter. She wanted it painted pink. I am painting it as "The Pink Panther".
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I typically I have the same opinion looking at the 3D renders. I always wait to see it in metal form.
Do you notice how I am always clamoring for people to show me pics of the minis? This is why :-D
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Yeah, the Hound turned out real nice. Scale looks perfect, too. Sweet!
OtoH-- Boy, is it just my eyes, or did the Gauntlet cast turn out really... rough??... :-\
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Heavy mold line on the legs, and the nose looks like it's performed a charge attack. Hopefully it's not a recurring issue.
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Heavy mold line on the legs, and the nose looks like it's performed a charge attack. Hopefully it's not a recurring issue.
It's odd. Every other miniature in that thread looks flawless.
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Brilliant O0
I have a plastic Intro Box Panther that I am painting up for my 5-year old daughter. She wanted it painted pink. I am painting it as "The Pink Panther".
Ace Darwin for the win!
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Heavy mold line on the legs, and the nose looks like it's performed a charge attack. Hopefully it's not a recurring issue.
Its not recurring from what I can tell. I have looked at the 3 or 4 I have and one has a little mold line on the one leg.
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Mine also didn't have that.
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Picked up the Hound from my FLGS, cleaned it up and I will be putting it together tonight while sitting with the baby. I am surprised people are not clamoring for the Hound's weapon sprue . . . double barreled energy weapon, should mount AC and a SRM4 box rack . . .
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Uh, there are, just not in this thread.
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Picked up the Hound from my FLGS, cleaned it up and I will be putting it together tonight while sitting with the baby. I am surprised people are not clamoring for the Hound's weapon sprue . . . double barreled energy weapon, should mount AC and a SRM4 box rack . . .
Working on it, was not able to get much work done last week while I was off work. Going to work on it this coming week.
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Hey all! The Yen-Lo-Wang is out on the web store!!
(http://ironwindmetals.com/store/images/btmechs/BT-395-BW.jpg)
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Hey all! The Yen-Lo-Wang is out on the web store!!
Looking good! Something else to add to my next order.
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Are there any pictures yet of the wasp? I am looking forward to that one for sure!
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Are there any pictures yet of the wasp? I am looking forward to that one for sure!
Not of Masters yet, it is nearing the end of sculpting and looks good so far.
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Awesome can't wait to see it! O0
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So sounds like mid to late February release on the wasp? That makes me all sad... Can't wait to order a lance or two of them. Provided the local store is done playing footsie with IWM and can start ordering stuff for me.
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I have updated the Release Schedule (http://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/release-schedule-2016) on the IWM website. I have posted 1st and 2nd Quarter 2017 Releases along with the most recent Web Only items that I have added to the Online store.
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Thank you Speck!
And I like the look of this up and coming hottie! Valkyrie VLK-QA
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Oh no! Is the insanely long production run of that particular Flea sculpt coming to a close?
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Why is the standing Trebaruna a Web only release?
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Thanks Speck! It's exciting to see more classic designs coming out!
Looks like Locust or Wolverine for 3rd quarter right?
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It's beginning to look like this year is going to be a real strain on the wallet...
Thanks Speck!
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Thanks Speck! It's exciting to see more classic designs coming out!
Looks like Locust or Wolverine for 3rd quarter right?
I thought so too but not so sure now. Hopefully Speck can release SOME information about which classics are currently authorized to release but...
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I thought so too but not so sure now. Hopefully Speck can release SOME information about which classics are currently authorized to release but...
Can't name any but we have a list fleshed out through next year doing one per quarter.
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No worries, knowing there will be another two this year and 4 next year is more than enough information considering the list of classics
Released:
Ostscout
Shadow Hawk
Scheduled:
Wasp
Valkyrie
Unknown:
Battlemaster
Longbow
Goliath
Warhammer
Archer
Marauder
Thunderbolt
Crusader
Rifleman
Griffin
Scorpion
Phoenix Hawk
Stinger
Possibly NOT on the authorized list:
Locust
Wolverine
Now, based on what Speck has been able to confirm it looks like IWM has been autrhorized to produce a total of 12 classics. That would mean maybe 3 per weight class. So far that would mean the lights are complete after the Valkyrie (Ostscout, Wasp, Valkyrie), and two more mediums. Thinking about it though it doesn't make a lot of sense as there are only 4 PP assaults that have to be replaced but... ah who knows, its all pure speculation anyway but it does make a small bit of sense.
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This kind of speculation is how rumors get started.
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What are we, a bunch of teenage girls?!?!?! ;D
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*glances up at General Discussion*
Yes.
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*glances up at General Discussion*
Yes.
Lol, so true
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No worries, knowing there will be another two this year and 4 next year is more than enough information considering the list of classics
Released:
Ostscout
Shadow Hawk
Scheduled:
Wasp
Valkyrie
Unknown:
Battlemaster
Longbow
Goliath
Warhammer
Archer
Marauder
Thunderbolt
Crusader
Rifleman
Griffin
Scorpion
Phoenix Hawk
Stinger
Possibly NOT on the authorized list:
Locust
Wolverine
Now, based on what Speck has been able to confirm it looks like IWM has been autrhorized to produce a total of 12 classics. That would mean maybe 3 per weight class. So far that would mean the lights are complete after the Valkyrie (Ostscout, Wasp, Valkyrie), and two more mediums. Thinking about it though it doesn't make a lot of sense as there are only 4 PP assaults that have to be replaced but... ah who knows, its all pure speculation anyway but it does make a small bit of sense.
Well some of what I have on my list are listed there........ but nothing to do with how many per weight class.
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Flea (XTRO Succession Wars), Gambit, Uraeus, and Valkyrie showed up on my FLGS preorder.
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Valkyrie is the on the Q2 release schedule Speck posted, so maybe May if we are lucky on that puppy. Not sure on the other two... only paid attention to listed classics.
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iirc the last few sets of releases have been mid quarter. the middle to the end of may would fit into that window.
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Your list is missing the Ostsol, Ostroc, and Marauder II. ^-^
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I thought I read somewhere that the Ostol and Ostroc were no longer listed as unseen. Though yes I noticed I had missed the Marauder II a day later.
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Since we've gotten the Ostscout, I figure they're probably in line for a re-do as well. That's all I'm thinking.
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I thought I read somewhere that the Ostol and Ostroc were no longer listed as unseen.
The Osts are legally no longer Unseen, but they are getting redesigned anyway.
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Fair enough, the 3025 art WAS pretty ugly
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Hey, some people like 'em...
...but not me. I think the new Ostscout is a huge improvement over the old one, and I don't even care about the retcon with its hands. As far as I'm concerned, 'Mechs should always have two hands unless there's a compelling in-game reason.
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I like the mechs just not the art lol
Yeah, I should be getting my Ostscouts soon as well as the Shadow Hawk and Stalker II. Can't wait to get an up close look at that fat legged Ostscout. Bigger question though is what faction colors to use...
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Hey, some people like 'em...
...but not me. I think the new Ostscout is a huge improvement over the old one, and I don't even care about the retcon with its hands. As far as I'm concerned, 'Mechs should always have two hands unless there's a compelling in-game reason.
The main reason being a BFG, PPCs or paired large lasers
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Hey, some people like 'em...
...but not me. I think the new Ostscout is a huge improvement over the old one, and I don't even care about the retcon with its hands. As far as I'm concerned, 'Mechs should always have two hands unless there's a compelling in-game reason.
Well it's not much of a ret-con considering that the mech's record sheet did include the hand actuators on both arms (as far as i know).
I do like the re-design myself, i think it's a massive improvement over both the original art and the re-seen art. However, i do think that the miniature's model is a bit... off? The legs seem a bit too THICC or maybe the torso is a bit too small, not sure which.
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lights . . . lights . . . need some heavies to hold the line!
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Can't name any but we have a list fleshed out through next year doing one per quarter. [Emphasis mine]
Glad to hear they're coming, but man that's a painfully slow release.
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And not knowing the order for the number allowed kind of sucks . . . I am wanting Wolverines, Warhammers and Marauders!
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I'm looking forward for the ones that have been difficult to find stand-ins for. Locust, Valkyrie, Crusader, etc. Probably Locust more than anything else.
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Anybody seen a Sarath yet?
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Anybody seen a Sarath yet?
I have. It's awesome. The very talented Sentinel343 is doing it.
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As much as I want minis in hand, I'd really like to see the art for the previously unseen designs (Crusaders, Goliath, Scorpion, etc.).
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Its been a few days so time to pester Speck again! :D
When will the Q3 and Q4 release schedule be posted?? ;D
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Its been a few days so time to pester Speck again! :D
When will the Q3 and Q4 release schedule be posted?? ;D
Not for awhile, 3rd is pretty much set, 4th still needs some fleshing out.
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Uraeus?! Yes! I was seriously considering kit bashing one of those before I saw this.
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Why are the Locust and Wolverine not being "authorized"?
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That sounds like an excellent question that Speck probably doesn't know the answer to, and is probably not for public viewing even if he does.
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Is there a reason they would not be? All I saw was a statement by a PKN like the rest of us?
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Is there a reason they would not be? All I saw was a statement by a PKN like the rest of us?
Catalyst is doing the Classics (paying for the new art, the 3d work, etc). So CGL presumably want to release a product that makes back their money eventually. So (again presumably) they are letting IWM release some to try and manage demand while CGL is still working on a "full" release in the future. So there's some give and take on which IWM can release and when to make sure this ends up not all CGL paying and CGL left with unable to recuperate those costs and (probably more importantly) the costs of plastic manunfacturing.
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Oh I understand all that . . . but Alex posted asking why those two would not be authorized and the only other thing I have seen about it was phoenixstorm's list where he was saying those two might not be authorized. Since both were by people knowing nothing I was wondering if that was officially sourced from somewhere.
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Which I don't remember saying... but I don't really remember that far back anyway. I think it was based on the assumption that IWM was only doing 3 per weight class. Which is a logical assumption. Ostscout, Wasp, Valkyrie are the lights we know of at the moment. As for costs from CGL, based on the last intro box I would say it may be possible to reuse the masters from IWM to make the high quality multi-part units much like the Battlemaster and Timber Wolf. Don't know what kind of masters are used so not sure if its possible or not but does make sense.
Can't wait to see what classics are coming in Q3/4 though.
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Bottom line? Everyone wants a piece of that sweet, sweet Classics money, and right now everyone with a stake seems to be playing nice and trying to share.
I have no inside info, but it seems pretty obvious that Catalyst wants a chance to release some of the more popular minis in plastic before IWM releases them in metal. We don't know exactly what that list includes, but given the prototypes they've brought out in the past year, the locust, warhammer, marauder, battlemaster, and griffin, those seem likely to be on the list of minis CGL is looking at making. No guarantees, but they had a limited number modeled, printed, and painted to show off, so it seems logical they might want to sell some eventually.
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What? Someone saying something completely logical and reasonable?!? That can't be right! ;)
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Yeah, but this is BattleTech. When is it EVER logical.
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Another question. What weight class will the Q3/4 mechs be for the classics? Can we at least get that much?? [notworthy]
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No guarantees, but they had a limited number modeled, printed, and painted to show off, so it seems logical they might want to sell some eventually.
As much as most of us want to buy them in some large quantity, yes.
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Another question. What weight class will the Q3/4 mechs be for the classics? Can we at least get that much?? [notworthy]
You can ask, but the answer will be some time off. :)
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Should I just send out the Bothans to find out? (Speck, please don't kill too many of them. Many still have to die to get the Second Death Star plans... ;D)
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So are there any news about the Q3 releases?
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I doubt there will be until we are a month into Q2
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So are there any news about the Q3 releases?
Nothing to post yet
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Are there any pictures of the Uraeus floating about?
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Are there any pictures of the Uraeus floating about?
Not yet, it is still in process.
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Will there ever be plans to cast the Hobgoblin and Basilisk Q?
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Will there ever be plans to cast the Hobgoblin and Basilisk Q?
They will most likely have to be done through the Fan Finance project.
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That's a shame. I adore the art for the Hobgoblin.
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They will most likely have to be done through the Fan Finance project.
Good to know. Would you know how much does it costs to finance a Protomech sculpt as opposed to a Mech?
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That's a shame. I adore the art for the Hobgoblin.
The later protomechs all came about through fan-financing, so it's not like it's a total pipe dream. If someone or a small group came up with the funds to get it done, it could be. Hey, the Svartalfa got the base version and the LRM variant!
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Are there any pictures of the Uraeus floating about?
So, this got approved and I am pretty sure I can share!
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m579/mccross90/Uraeus/Ortho_zpsgo7q3vgl.png)
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Cool. A War Hawk...err Shadowhammer?
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Cool. A War Hawk...err Shadowhammer?
the salacious love child of a Warhammer and a Thanatos.
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new on my FLGS preorder -
Anubis 5Y (TRO 3150)
Avalanche (TRO 3150)
Cuirass (TRO 3085)
Uziel 2S resculpt (with variant parts for the 8S)
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new on my FLGS preorder -
Anubis 5Y (TRO 3150)
Avalanche (TRO 3150)
Cuirass (TRO 3085)
Uziel 2S resculpt (with variant parts for the 8S)
Uziel Resculpt?! Can it be true? My favorite MW4 'mech finally getting a worthy (hopefully) miniature would be exciting news.
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That's late July. I'll probably pick them up at Gencon. Hopefully, they'll have a company of those Anubis.
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I can get a company of Anubis? Oh Hellbie! Your worst nightmare is coming back in metal form. Excellent. Let's see. I think I left off with two full companies of those things in MW:AOD scale.
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So, this got approved and I am pretty sure I can share!
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m579/mccross90/Uraeus/Ortho_zpsgo7q3vgl.png)
Snazzy. A tad bulkier in proportions than I imagined from the TRO art, but better than it being a string-bean like the Uziel. :)
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That thing has one mean lookin' pinky finger!
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This may sound weird (well, maybe not from me), but any chance of ever seeing a Chaffee?
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I can get a company of Anubis? Oh Hellbie! Your worst nightmare is coming back in metal form. Excellent. Let's see. I think I left off with two full companies of those things in MW:AOD scale.
I LOATHE YOU.
;D
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I wonder how many more years there are left before you get a name change to "JadedHellbringet". ;D
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Parts for an 8S Urziel!!?? WHAT? WHOOT!
(my kit-bashed 8S will be jealous!)
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Oh, and this Uziel will likely be the definitive version.
I was able to help IWM in acquiring the original model used in MechWarrior 4, and that will be used as the basis for this baby. It should be amazing. (Note, I'm not the one turning that original model into a mini, someone else is)
Just wait til you guys here what I get to do for 4th quarter...
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Oh, and this Uziel will likely be the definitive version.
I was able to help IWM in acquiring the original model used in MechWarrior 4, and that will be used as the basis for this baby. It should be amazing.
Just wait til you guys here what I get to do for 4th quarter...
[drool] [drool] [drool]
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Just wait til you guys here what I get to do for 4th quarter...
*crosses fingers*
Leviathan III, Leviathan III, Leviathan III, Leviathan III...
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When can be expect the Goshawk II and Loki II in the online store?
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*crosses fingers*
Leviathan III, Leviathan III, Leviathan III, Leviathan III...
Not from me, sorry :-(
Hint, it's a Mech.
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*crosses fingers*
Diomede, Diomede, Diomede, Diomede...
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*crosses fingers*
Diomede, Diomede, Diomede, Diomede...
*BattleMech
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Here's what's left on the 3085-3145 mech front
http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=51257.msg1182721#msg1182721
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*BattleMech
*crosses fingers*
OstBosch, OstBosch, OstBosch, OstBosch...
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Don't forget to click your red sparkly heels together ;D
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When can be expect the Goshawk II and Loki II in the online store?
Question seconded...Loki II is just..well, I wants it... [drool] [drool] [drool] [drool]
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I can't share pictures (Because it's not my mini), but I can say officially now that the Flea being released in a few weeks is not the FLE-14 from XTRO succession wars but rather the MW4 model!
It is going to look great :D
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So now we are getting mw4 miniatures, awesome. Any possibility of a mw4 Hauptmann . And to all that made it possible to now have miniatures of the mw4 mechs thank you .
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That's interesting. I'm not even going to ask how that happened, but glad to hear it.
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MW4 version Vultures would make me a very happy person. I only have one regular one, and it never sees use because I hate how anemic it looks.
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MW4 version Vultures would make me a very happy person. I only have one regular one, and it never sees use because I hate how anemic it looks.
Have you seen the Vulture III?
(http://ironwindmetals.com/store/images/btmechs/BT-303-bw.jpg)
http://ironwindmetals.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=9344
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I have three. But I am also a stickler, when the stickling choice is available to me. :D
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I have three. But I am also a stickler, when the stickling choice is available to me. :D
Hahahaha, fair enough :)
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So, we're not getting an ultralight jumpy XTRO Flea? :(
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I can't share pictures (Because it's not my mini), but I can say officially now that the Flea being released in a few weeks is not the FLE-14 from XTRO succession wars but rather the MW4 model!
I now know what it's like to take my disappointment too personally.
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I now know what it's like to take my disappointment too personally.
I'll be morbidly curious (since I have no intention of buying one now) what they decide to call this Flea, since it sure as well isn't the FLE-14 they've had listed on their website.
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It'll be in good company. The FLE-15 Flea already for sale from Iron Wind Metals doesn't seem to actually be what it says it is either (it appears to be an FLE-4 except with twin chin guns).
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Does this mean that CGL has the license to use MWO imagery?
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Does this mean that CGL has the license to use MWO imagery?
That's a pretty big jump in logic.
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(Never mind.)
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I can't share pictures (Because it's not my mini), but I can say officially now that the Flea being released in a few weeks is not the FLE-14 from XTRO succession wars but rather the MW4 model!
It is going to look great :D
Lords of Light! Hand me a fresh keyboard, and bring me my credit card! Stinger, can you talk about any other MW4 designs making crossover? [drool]
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That's a pretty big jump in logic.
How so?
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Lords of Light! Hand me a fresh keyboard, and bring me my credit card! Stinger, can you talk about any other MW4 designs making crossover? [drool]
Well, as mentioned above, an Uziel resculpt is coming soon using the exact CAD model as used for the game.
You can Fan Funding (soon) my Hellspawn resculpt that matches the MW4 artwork quite well.
And there is going to be a resculpt coming 4th quarter that is of a quite old mini, that badly needs a resculpt, and it is going to combine elements of the TRO art, some XTRO art, and the MW4 model of this particular mech :-D
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Well, as mentioned above, an Uziel resculpt is coming soon using the exact CAD model as used for the game.
You can Fan Funding (soon) my Hellspawn resculpt that matches the MW4 artwork quite well.
And there is going to be a resculpt coming 4th quarter that is of a quite old mini, that badly needs a resculpt, and it is going to combine elements of the TRO art, some XTRO art, and the MW4 model of this particular mech :-D
That sounds to me like a Cougar.
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Cougar, Mad Cat II, Mauler, Awesome, Raven and maybe Victor are options. YMMV on whether they need resculpt. These are just the ones with MW4, XTRO and TRO pics.
What i really want is a MW4 Mad Cat Mk II. None of the existing ones, the DA sculpt, the original nor the XTRO one quite look like MW4 version of Mad Cat IV...
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Why does the Uziel get a resculpt. It (the old one) looked very good.
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Why does the Uziel get a resculpt. It (the old one) looked very good.
Looks good? The cockpit is non-existent on the mini (compare it to the tac ops cover) and it is very small. Very small.
And as for which mini? My lips are sealed until Speck releases the 4th Quarter schedule :-D
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How so?
I've tried three times to figure out how to explain myself, and can't. I guess the key difference is that MW4 was integrated with the tabletop game decades ago, while MWO postdates FASA's collapse and has to operate in the new environment where visuals have to be different.
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Looks good? The cockpit is non-existent on the mini (compare it to the tac ops cover) and it is very small. Very small.
And as for which mini? My lips are sealed until Speck releases the 4th Quarter schedule :-D
Maybe it´s the sake but I can see the cockpit (http://ironwindmetals.com/store/images/btmechs/20-972.JPG)
If you say that it´s all wrong that I can agree on.
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Cougar, Mad Cat II, Mauler, Awesome, Raven and maybe Victor are options. YMMV on whether they need resculpt. These are just the ones with MW4, XTRO and TRO pics.
What i really want is a MW4 Mad Cat Mk II. None of the existing ones, the DA sculpt, the original nor the XTRO one quite look like MW4 version of Mad Cat IV...
Nah. If the qualification is having art in all those sources, it's been months since anybody resculpted the Atlas. It's due! :D
Though, admittedly, a Mad Cat Mk II or Mauler resculpt could be OK too...
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Maybe it´s the sake but I can see the cockpit (http://ironwindmetals.com/store/images/btmechs/20-972.JPG)
If you say that it´s all wrong that I can agree on.
Then we clearly agree, because that's not the cockpit. Here are some where you can actually see it. Sort of.
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/cso-images/schemes/39_nachtwolferobinsonrangersuzial.jpg)
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/cso-images/schemes/19_arrastia4dguziel01.jpg)
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If you say that it´s all wrong that I can agree on.
If memory serves, the Uziel and resculpt Banshee (http://ironwindmetals.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=1992) (plus a couple of others) were the final releases from Ral Partha at the time FASA folded. (RP was owned by FASA.) By the look of them, they were released in a hurry.
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I've tried three times to figure out how to explain myself, and can't. I guess the key difference is that MW4 was integrated with the tabletop game decades ago, while MWO postdates FASA's collapse and has to operate in the new environment where visuals have to be different.
I understand. I don't play video games, so the distinction between MW4 AND MWO wasn't apparent to me. I am puzzled at how CGL is using art from MWO's Stalker and Victor. I hope they don't end up Unseen.
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I am puzzled at how CGL is using art from MWO's Stalker and Victor. I hope they don't end up Unseen.
I think that those are examples of coincidental similarity rather than direct copying.
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I think that those are examples of coincidental similarity rather than direct copying.
If the Victor you're thinking about is the Lu Wei Bing, it's different art by (I believe) the same artist, but not actually MWO art. whether the two are different enough to be considered distinct ts a question for lawyers.
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It really disturbs me to think about that two companies who thrive on the same universe could end up damaging each other over some artwork instead of supporting each other. I mean, it´s not as if a IWM Wei Lu Bing would prevent me from buying anything in MWO. I just don´t play it because it bores me but not because I say "oh the minis are so much nicer looking, so I go for classic BTech". Or what am i missing here?
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The legacy of FASA, that's what you're missing. CGL can only licence the boardgame IP (and some related aspects) from Topps, PGI can only licence the computer version of the IP (and some related aspects) from Topps, but neither can use each other's original work without going through Topps, which is a megacorp, and which charges accordingly.
Yup, it would be good if they could work more closely. No, it ain't legally possible at this time.
W.
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It's slightly worse than that isn't it? Since Microsoft holds some rights to the Mechwarrior computer games. I don't know exactly where the split is between Topps and Microsoft, but is seems like it has something to do with piloting an individual mech? Anyway, the MWO art may be as much locked up by Microsoft as it is by Topps.
Regardless, having fragmented IP is a pain for everyone involved.
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It's slightly worse than that isn't it? Since Microsoft holds some rights to the Mechwarrior computer games. I don't know exactly where the split is between Topps and Microsoft, but is seems like it has something to do with piloting an individual mech? Anyway, the MWO art may be as much locked up by Microsoft as it is by Topps.
Regardless, having fragmented IP is a pain for everyone involved.
Electronic games, Microsoft. Board games, print (novels), Topps. Movies are also Topps.
https://trademarks.justia.com/search?q=battletech
Topps has then licensed out to CGL, Microsoft to Piranha and HBS.
We don't know of any other terms of any other agreements, and likely never will. But presumably anything FASA created, Topps and Microsoft can both access, as they "inherited" those rights from FASA. Post-split, anything between the separate companies has to be negotiated for, FASA couldn't/can't grant rights to something somebody else creates in the future.
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Cougar, Mad Cat II, Mauler, Awesome, Raven and maybe Victor are options. YMMV on whether they need resculpt. These are just the ones with MW4, XTRO and TRO pics.
Maybe Shadow Cat? That giant hand on the mini is so odd. Matches the art, but odd.
A MW4-ish Fafnir would probably sell well.
Plot twist: Urbanmech from the mektek side.
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The Shadow Cat could use a Dark Age sculpt option. Love the MWDA looks of the Shadow Cat.
But it can't be what Stinger was talking about because the Shadow Cat is not subject to any XTROs (and therefore has no XTRO art). Unless there's one coming but isn't publicly known... which is unlikely.
I listed the ones i know for sure have MW4/Mercs model, XTRO art and TRO art.
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Empyrus
Is this the same as the MWDA Shadowcat? I thought they were but I may be mistaken.
http://ironwindmetals.com/store/popup_image.php?pID=8511&type=jpg[/url]
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Empyrus
Is this the same as the MWDA Shadowcat? I thought they were but I may be mistaken.
http://ironwindmetals.com/store/popup_image.php?pID=8511&type=jpg[/url]
That's Shadow Cat II, which originates from MWDA and appears in TRO.... 3085, i think?
Not the pretty one.
(http://warrenborn.com/UnitSection/AN/AN073.jpg)
MWDA Shadow Cat from Warrenborn.
Poor pic but one can see the primary differences for MWDA Shadow Cat are the cockpit (has stylized Nova Cat head) and generally more rounded, smoother appearance.
The weapons do not match any Shadow Cat configuration though, not even the NTNU ones.
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Cool. I appreciate the info.
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Do we get a glimpse of the Q3 and Q4 release schedule soon? O0
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While we are at it, when will the Wasp become available on the IWM store?
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Do we get a glimpse of the Q3 and Q4 release schedule soon? O0
The online-shop I am using listed the Avalanche, Cuirass, Uziel resculpt and an Anubis variant for preorder just a few days ago. Conclusively, these Mech are going to be the Q3 releases, I suppose.
Unfortunately, none of the classics / re-unseens / whatever is listed or mentioned. So, are there any news, which classic is going to be released in Q3? Hopefully the Phoenix Hawk :)
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Well, as mentioned above, an Uziel resculpt is coming soon using the exact CAD model as used for the game.
You can Fan Funding (soon) my Hellspawn resculpt that matches the MW4 artwork quite well.
And there is going to be a resculpt coming 4th quarter that is of a quite old mini, that badly needs a resculpt, and it is going to combine elements of the TRO art, some XTRO art, and the MW4 model of this particular mech :-D
It would be really cool to see a new Mauler. Its been one of my favorite 'mech designs since I started playing. Maybe not the most effective in combat, but visually O0
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Not sure if there is an XTro Thanatos, but I would love to see it redone too. The original sculpt is huge and very limited in detail. Very underwhelming compared to what it looked like in the game.
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Any chance we will ever see a battlemaster c ( red corsair ) or other IIC or versions of SLDF mechs?
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The weapons do not match any Shadow Cat configuration though, not even the NTNU ones.
I thought it was the same, 2 ER mediums and a Gauss. They just moved one of the ERs to the arm with the other one.
I think I remember seeing that somewhere, but I can't recall where. And that recollection is not recent. :(
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I thought it was the same, 2 ER mediums and a Gauss. They just moved one of the ERs to the arm with the other one.
I think I remember seeing that somewhere, but I can't recall where. And that recollection is not recent. :(
Maybe, but officially there's no configuration that looks like the DA Shadow Cat.
Looking at the Dark Age Sneak Peeks article collection (http://bg.battletech.com/downloads/ (http://bg.battletech.com/downloads/)), it seems the twin ML arm is basically the Avalanche's. They tried to make the 'Mechs actually Omni by having detachable arms but apparently that didn't work out well.
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The Wendigo and Shadow Cat swapped arms without any problems. I never tried an Avalanche.
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Any chance we will ever see a battlemaster c ( red corsair ) or other IIC or versions of SLDF mechs?
The Orion IIC, Guillotine IIC, Clint IIC, Shadow Hawk IIC, Warhammer IIC 4 etc, Marauder IIC 3 etc and Hunchback IIC have all been made from what I can tell in my collection.
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Am I missing something or did the Valkyrie disappear from the Q3 release schedule?
Also, I can't help but be a bit disappointed the mini Flea FLE-14 is being replaced by the 20. - was it a typo or is the 14 going to be made in future?
I am however, very impressed by the Uziel resculpt. I will be glad to see a chunkier cockpit - and hopefully, thicker legs - I chopped my Uziel in half and switched the legs, arms and lower torso with a Madcat MKIII to make an 8S model. Because I really, Really, REALLY, hated the scrawny legs.
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valkyrie was delayed, yes. Flea is probably a typo. It's still listed as a 15 ton mech. Unless they decided to redo the standard flea out of nowhere?
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valkyrie was delayed, yes. Flea is probably a typo. It's still listed as a 15 ton mech. Unless they decided to redo the standard flea out of nowhere?
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valkyrie was delayed, yes. Flea is probably a typo. It's still listed as a 15 ton mech. Unless they decided to redo the standard flea out of nowhere?
It was mentioned earlier that the Flea that's going to be released is going to be based on the MW4 art and won't be the ultralight.
If it's the FLE-20, then it'll apparently represent the Capellan stealth version from the Jihad.
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Yeah, I read about the MW4 based 20, I guess I meant, why initially say they were releasing the 14, I now assume that was that just a typo?
(Although I can hope the 14 will come out at some point in the future!)
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If it's the FLE-20, then it'll apparently represent the Capellan stealth version from the Jihad.
Bleh
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Bleh
Right there with ya. I was really looking forward to that little guy. :(
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Any word on this year's convention specials? I am probably in the minority, but I am hoping for some more 28mm stuff. More battle armor would be spiffy, but a 28mm Mechwarrior would be fantastic...even if it's a generic one.
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Jumping Liberator.
Jumping McKenna.
28mm-scale Fox corvette.
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Lol!
Seriously, a new 28mm BA would be nice. O0
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Y'know, if you cast the back half of a ship in clear resin... ^-^
(Alternatively, a jumping Fox can be easily made by dropping an existing mini into your kitchen sink's disposal.)
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A 'Mech-scale Fox would be 1.5m long. A 1m sphere would provide a good base.
Reminds me of when I planned to make a 'Mech-scale Invader using an old coatrack ...
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Didn't someone do a 'Mech-scale Aegis class a few years back?
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If they did I wants pictures!
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If they did I wants pictures!
Think it was under terrain on a previous incarnation of the forums.
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FYI; the new Sarath, Gambit and Flea miniatures. Sorry for the poor picture quality.
The Flea and Gambit are pretty simple to assemble.
The Sarath has a lot of pieces, but it is a nice miniature with good detail.
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Why is the Flea so gigantic?
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Any pics of the Uraeus?
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Why is the Flea so gigantic?
"We've swapped their Flea mini with Folgers crystals...er, a Cicada mini. Let's see if anyone notices."
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Any pics of the Uraeus?
Yes, please!!
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FYI; the new Sarath...
The Sarath has a lot of pieces, but it is a nice miniature with good detail.
Thanks for sharing!
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Why is the Flea so gigantic?
So you can use it as a Marauder IIC proxy?
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Well, I definitely won't be using it for a FLE-14 proxy.
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So you can use it as a Marauder IIC proxy?
A bit of modding and you get a 'primitive' Marauder, it just needs some arms and bigger lower legs (any ideas?).
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Glad to see the Sarath came out looking pretty good :)
sorry about the large amount of pieces. it was kind of unavoidable since the design isnt very casting friendly.
but hey it means there's a lot of customization options!
I'd love to see any painted saraths if anyone has one.
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I'd love to see any painted saraths if anyone has one.
Let me see if any of my customers have one painted up yet. I'll PM you as well!
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Just ordered mine, so painting them will be a bit :).
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Just ordered mine, so painting them will be a bit :).
O0
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Any pics of the Uraeus?
close up
(http://puu.sh/wlodF/03cfd779a9.png)
with the Gambit, Loki Mk II, and Sarath
(http://puu.sh/wlohT/72fa74f87a.png)
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Excellent! Thanks for posting!
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URAEUS! :D I'mma snatch a pair for my Comstar and Republic forces.
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Hey so... any update on the Q3 classic?
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Hey so... any update on the Q3 classic?
Or the Q2 classic?
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or the Q1 classics... :( Need more Wasps
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Hey so... any update on the Q3 classic?
There was one on the release list?
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I was always under the impression that 3Q was Anubis, Avalanche, Cuirass, Uziel resculpt. The only way we'd get a 3Q classic is if the Valkyrie gets released
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There was one on the release list?
Unfortunately not, but ...
Can't name any but we have a list fleshed out through next year doing one per quarter.
Consequently, we're short two to three (if you count the Wasp) Classics, I guess.
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Q1 Wasp, Q2 Valkyrie, Q3... I don't think any information was ever released. Still no infomercial from Speck on what happened, not sure if there will be either.
Only other info about the Classics was a small bit from Randall about the next intro box possibly could have some but even that was a bit iffy/vague on the meaning.
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Well... shoot
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There's that photobucket message again. Guess they don't like to share anymore :'(
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Not unless you want to pony up $400 I believe... There was a big flap over it in the off topic forum iirc
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I do have the 4th quarter list to add this week. But tonight is dig through emails since I was out of town last few days at Historicon.
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Speck,
Any news on when that Q4 schedule might go up on the site?
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Well, if you checked some of the other topics you know what happened to the Classic releases . . .
Will we get any that are not affected by HG? For instance I would love a Battlemaster or Wolverine to come out . . .
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Colt - I figured that Speck would already have known that... business at the time of his post, considering the Wasp had already been pulled off the store.
If the classics Wolverine (when it happens) looks as good in the flesh/metal as it does in the art, I will buy all of them. All. That and the Griffin are probably my two most wanted.
I'm just curious to see what IWM have on the way for the rest of the year, mainly because prohibitive postage costs to the bottom end of the globe mean I like to order more minis less often, and the content of the release schedule will dictate whether I hold off on my next order or not.
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Speck,
Any news on when that Q4 schedule might go up on the site?
Will get that up this week. I am hoping tonight after work.
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Are there any other classics that IWM will be able to release? Locust, Thud... Maybe a Wolverine or Griffin??
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Are there any other classics that IWM will be able to release? Locust, Thud... Maybe a Wolverine or Griffin??
None are in the 4th quarter, at some point in the future they could be.
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Reason I said what I said Phobos is that none of the parties can comment . . . heck, they could not even say such things were holding up CM Davion or its why the Wasp et al got pulled or put on hold. Which is why I was wondering if non-Macross/Robotech Classic designs would still be coming out or if they went all the way back to not touching any of them.
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None are in the 4th quarter, at some point in the future they could be.
And primitive Archer/Orion?
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And primitive Archer/Orion?
:)
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Thanks Speck, so the one per quarter was blown out of the water then.. oh well. Guess that means more time to build up the Shadow Hawks in my various battalions.
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Don't forget about the Ostscout.
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Already bought some, but they are light on combat power. For a heavy hitting 8/12 design I prefer the Mongoose, but they are hard to justify (in numbers) in a 3025 unit. So most light lances stick with 6/9 or 6/9/6 units which there is a much larger number of.
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Already bought some, but they are light on combat power. For a heavy hitting 8/12 design I prefer the Mongoose, but they are hard to justify (in numbers) in a 3025 unit. So most light lances stick with 6/9 or 6/9/6 units which there is a much larger number of.
You might use some Jenners instead, since Jenners should be quite common even outside Kurita-space (even if they are only 7/11/5). Especially since Ostscouts are supposed to be scarce, too ;)
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Yeah, I have a fair amount of upside down toilet bowl mechs. Mostly in plastic though, but they look the same as my metal Ral Partha Jenner
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Yeah, I have a fair amount of upside down toilet bowl mechs. Mostly in plastic though, but they look the same as my metal Ral Partha Jenner
Yeah, Jenners are Kurita-Mechs after all.
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Any word on either Q 4 or con exclusives yet?
Aside from the jumping enforcer III
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nothing yet. sometimes my flgs BT distributor spills the beans a little early when they list future releases as preorders, but no word from them either.
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Any word on either Q 4 or con exclusives yet?
Aside from the jumping enforcer III
They haven't announced the Q4 releases yet, but the list has been settled. Same as the GenCon stuff, but they are waiting for the sculptors to finish and/or casting to finish what came in. That's the last I heard from the business side about 3 weeks ago...so I'm sure things have changed a bit on the GenCon stuff (i.e. sculptors could be done).
I'm sure Speck will post a list soon since GenCon is what...roughly 3 weeks away.
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Any word on either Q 4 or con exclusives yet?
Aside from the jumping enforcer III
Will update 4th quarter release Sunday night when I am back home.
I will post this week about gencon specials.
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Alright! 4th quarter release!
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The website has to be working when he's available for him to post it.
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The Cougar Prime / B Mech - 35 Tons - TRO 3060,
Jaguar (Standard) Mech - 35 Tons - TRO 3145 Lyran Commonwealth,
Phoenix Hawk IIC 7 Mech - 80 Tons - TRO 3085, and
Enforcer III ENF-7D Mech - 50 Tons - XTRO Republic Vol 1
are going to releasedin Q4, I guess.
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that's uh. eclectic
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Wait until you see the Cougar, you will be pleased :D
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The website has to be working when he's available for him to post it.
Yeah what you said
The Cougar Prime / B Mech - 35 Tons - TRO 3060,
Jaguar (Standard) Mech - 35 Tons - TRO 3145 Lyran Commonwealth,
Phoenix Hawk IIC 7 Mech - 80 Tons - TRO 3085, and
Enforcer III ENF-7D Mech - 50 Tons - XTRO Republic Vol 1
are going to releasedin Q4, I guess.
Yeah that is the 4th quarter release. Have updating IWM website this evening.
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Is the Cougar a new sculpt?
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Yeah what you said
Yeah that is the 4th quarter release. Have updating IWM website this evening.
No primitives? :(
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Is the Cougar a new sculpt?
A completely new sculpt. Based on a variety of sources, it is the definitive cougar.
Interestingly enough, the original cougar actually used the legs and arms from the first sculpt of the puma. Only the torso was new. This one is completely new and much, much better than the current 20 year old sculpt.
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I will definitely be picking up the new cougar.
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Be interesting to compare them . . . was just looking at my Adder and the ERPPC arms on it are kind of scrawny and disappointing.
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I used the resculpt puma arms on the current cougar sculpt.
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I looked at ordering some Adder arms for my Pouncer b/c I was not a fan of the arms with it I had not put on yet. I might look at the resculpt or perhaps check other arms but the Pouncer has a weird arm attachment.
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Well all my Adders are E's.
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A completely new sculpt. Based on a variety of sources, it is the definitive cougar.
Cougar XR? [drool]
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Well, I built that Adder from the parts that came with it in the big ebay lot I got . . . I prefer the B & D, which those tiny Prime arms can simulate easily enough.
Guess I also need to put the Mad Dog together from that lot.
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Can't say I'm a big fan of the Enforcer's arms, but i have another strong patlabor/ms08th vibe from that unit. ;D
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Cougar XR? [drool]
Ugh, I hope not. I'd really like a good looking Cougar without wings first.
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Updated Release Schedule (http://www.ironwindmetals.com/index.php/release-schedule-main) Added 4th Quarter and also a bunch of Web Only stuff that should all make it to Gen Con and then up on our web store after the show.
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How different does the Wolverine 1R look from the -3R, since I cannot find a image of the -1R?
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How different does the Wolverine 1R look from the -3R, since I cannot find a image of the -1R?
Look at the Fan Funding thread (http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=56565.0) for it.
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Although technically the FF thread shows a -3R, as it has the SRM pack. The -1R doesn't. Hopefully the pack is a separate piece.
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more specifically, this post
http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=56565.msg1320458#msg1320458
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Yeah, I could find the -3R art but not the other so I was wondering if they had other differences. Hopefully it does have the SRM as a attachment, if not I could always get one off a MWDA vehicle or something. Since we have no idea when we might get any Classic minis, I might have to consider that for a 6 series stand in though I do have the -7H too.
Wonder if the gun will be a separate piece since I wish the -7H had it differently. I would like to make a -7M at some point.
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is the cougar gonna be built to accept arms from the 3050 omnis? I always felt that it, the Phantom, Pouncer, and Linebacker should have been treated as "Compatible" due to the similar art style used
Also looking forward to giving my Sowrd of Light a Mk II Hover Company!!!
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there is a lot to like in the web-exclusive list, especially that trio of hot, hot primitive action. also hyped about the marauder battle armor
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is the cougar gonna be built to accept arms from the 3050 omnis? I always felt that it, the Phantom, Pouncer, and Linebacker should have been treated as "Compatible" due to the similar art style used
Also looking forward to giving my Sowrd of Light a Mk II Hover Company!!!
The cougar was not *explicitly* built to accept 3050 omni parts. But. It should be more in scale with those parts and it wouldn't look out of place in the arms. There will be covers for the torso missile racks provided, so overall, it shouldn't be too hard to modify as needed.
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I'm pretty excited, especially about the wolverine and archer primitives. loos like I'll be holding off my order until they hit the streets, If I can wait that long :P.
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I'm pretty excited, especially about the wolverine and archer primitives. loos like I'll be holding off my order until they hit the streets, If I can wait that long :P.
Me too, I am also quite excited by the Orion. Hopefully they will be in the IWM store by the end of this month.
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Does the cougar use the resculpted adder legs? I'm hoping it was built around those.
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Does the cougar use the resculpted adder legs? I'm hoping it was built around those.
No, it is completely new sculpt.
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Any News on the Con Specials yet?
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Me too, I am also quite excited by the Orion. Hopefully they will be in the IWM store by the end of this month.
Yeah, I always found the original mini a bit goofy, so I might get a couple of these to sub in.
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For that Wolverine, does it have a missile launcher to become the -3R? Is the AC built into the arm or is it a separate piece- like the TDR-1C's Large Laser?
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You know, you people keep releasing stuff I want to buy, and I'll never be able to get all the projects I want to do done.
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For that Wolverine, does it have a missile launcher to become the -3R? Is the AC built into the arm or is it a separate piece- like the TDR-1C's Large Laser?
I talked to Dak and the wolverine can be the 1R or 3R. Missile launcher and AC separate parts.
Any News on the Con Specials yet?
In the gencon thread in the general BT forum I posted about what is in the Vengeance Lance pack and mentioned a second Lance pack that is a 3150 Fed Suns themed. Will be posting more details here this week yet.
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Good news, thanks for the quick response.
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Is there any update on the Locust 1V http://camospecs.com/IWM/Details/1706/locust-lct-1v (http://camospecs.com/IWM/Details/1706/locust-lct-1v) as yet or is it still unknown (or something that can't be talked about)?
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That will depend on which 12 classics IWM was already licensed to produce in metal. I remember someone said that the classics were being pushed for plastic first. So if that is true then don't expect it to be out in metal for awhile unless it is one of the 12 IWM is scheduled to release.
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I remember someone said that the classics were being pushed for plastic first.
It was Adrian Gideon in the 2016 gencon thread
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any word on the Q4 distribution lineup?
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Cougar Resculpt :) And... others...
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Any updates on when my favorite centurion might be purchasable? My DA RAC-turion needs a buddy!
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Any updates on when my favorite centurion might be purchasable? My DA RAC-turion needs a buddy!
Last I heard the 3D master didn't make it to gen con in time, which was quite disappointing. It should be in house and IWM just needs to mold it, I think.
Speck should have more info...
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Last I heard the 3D master didn't make it to gen con in time, which was quite disappointing. It should be in house and IWM just needs to mold it, I think.
Speck should have more info...
Yup, the 3D master arrived just before Gencon. I will find out a update.
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Is there any update on the Locust 1V http://camospecs.com/IWM/Details/1706/locust-lct-1v (http://camospecs.com/IWM/Details/1706/locust-lct-1v) as yet or is it still unknown (or something that can't be talked about)?
I think its on hold because of all the trouble with HG. If I´m wrong: pwease Senpai notice him!
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I think its on hold because of all the trouble with HG. If I´m wrong: pwease Senpai notice him!
Locust isn't a Harmony Gold issue.
As mentioned many, many times before, Catalyst has requested that IWM hold off on releasing any of the 7 Classic mechs that will be included in the future box sets. Once those are released, we may start seeing some Classics start rolling in.
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Q4 on the IWM page:
Cougar Prime / B resculpt
Jaguar
Phoenix Hawk IIC 7
XTRO Enforcer 7D (non-jumping version of the con exclusive)
Once again, no Anzu :'(
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Locust isn't a Harmony Gold issue.
Okay, so sorry, but I thought this was the case because they compared what I think looks like a Locust to a Marauder (https://www.unitedstatescourts.org/federal/wawd/242820/1-0.html) ; which is crazy.
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Thats just HG being stupid
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Just throwing this out there any chance of getting the 1st gen protos resculpted?
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Might check, I am pretty sure some of them have been . . . I need to see about a Sunder myself. I have the Avatar and IIRC it used the same legs as the Mad Dog, so that might have changed especially since the Mad Dog got a resculpt IIRC and you have the II, III and IV to chose from if you want to change the look of the legs to being beefier.
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No protomech resculpts that I know of but I would like them!
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Sorry, my brain translated that as Omni for some reason. Yeah, I would not expect the protos to ever be resculpted too small a market. I am not sure if the Reavings have even been made, let alone the 3145 protos.
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I am not sure if the Reavings have even been made, let alone the 3145 protos.
Some have been made, but not all.
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unsculpted protos:
Erinyes (3075)
Minotaur XP (XTRO Clans)
Basilisk (Quad) (Reaving)
Hobgoblin (Reaving)
Minotaur P2 (Prototypes)
Satyr XP (Prototypes)
Hippogriff (3145 Mercs)
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Just throwing this out there any chance of getting the 1st gen protos resculpted?
What do you want changed?
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I would love the xp satyr another Minotaur and a varient sculpt of the delphyne and gorgon
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Satyr and Minotaur make sense, where's the art that would be used for the other two?
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That's the rub! How does new official art get made?
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That's the rub! How does new official art get made?
Lol, that's the million dollar question. And that's coming from someone with the title of freelance artist...
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Well first.... Somebody needs to get really really drunk and play with some ugly minis.
Then they drink some more and make a call to commission new art, followed by much passing out.
Week later new art shows up for the ugly mini that got even uglier after heavy drinking.
After that it gets past on to IWM with a note not to get drunk and look at the original.
Curiosity sets in so more drinking, mold gets ordered, more passing out.
New mini gets released and no one remembers what happened. #P
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Well first.... Somebody needs to get really really drunk and play with some ugly minis.
Then they drink some more and make a call to commission new art, followed by much passing out.
Week later new art shows up for the ugly mini that got even uglier after heavy drinking.
After that it gets past on to IWM with a note not to get drunk and look at the original.
Curiosity sets in so more drinking, mold gets ordered, more passing out.
New mini gets released and no one remembers what happened. #P
Let it be so!
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That's the rub! How does new official art get made?
Typically art is done in conjunction with a new product. We would need a book or PDF that had protos in them. Note: typically the small PDF products use previous art. That isn't always true but typical. Art is expensive.
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Assuming a radical revision on the appearance isn't what you're after, I think the biggest obstacle is that the original sculpts don't lend themselves to modification. Specifically thinking of the Gorgon here, where I prefer both the 2 and 3 variants over the base model. Pulling off the LRM-10 would be no small task, and I'd be inclined to resculpt over modify for the amount of work that would go in and the uncertainty of what would be left of the torso. Then it's a question of cost versus sales to justify it. Protos clearly aren't everyone's cup of tea, and trying for a subset of a subset isn't going to generate much buzz.
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Assuming a radical revision on the appearance isn't what you're after, I think the biggest obstacle is that the original sculpts don't lend themselves to modification. Specifically thinking of the Gorgon here, where I prefer both the 2 and 3 variants over the base model.
I had the same thoughts. Years ago, I had tried to modify a Gorgon, it didn't work out
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Assuming a radical revision on the appearance isn't what you're after, I think the biggest obstacle is that the original sculpts don't lend themselves to modification. Specifically thinking of the Gorgon here, where I prefer both the 2 and 3 variants over the base model. Pulling off the LRM-10 would be no small task, and I'd be inclined to resculpt over modify for the amount of work that would go in and the uncertainty of what would be left of the torso. Then it's a question of cost versus sales to justify it. Protos clearly aren't everyone's cup of tea, and trying for a subset of a subset isn't going to generate much buzz.
I wonder how much of that was because of the divise nature of the first gen sculpts. I think the sprite and the procyon quad are great examples of good looking protos. Procyon quad has the animal look without being too over board but the sprite I think nails an almost alien look.
I will keep beating this drum!
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I wonder how much of that was because of the divise nature of the first gen sculpts. I think the sprite and the procyon quad are great examples of good looking protos. Procyon quad has the animal look without being too over board but the sprite I think nails an almost alien look.
I will keep beating this drum!
Well, the Sprite is without a doubt a fantastic looking miniature, a very detailed sculpt, nicely scaled and a joy to paint. However, I can't remember ever seeing a painted Sprite except the one I did for the IWM website ... :-\
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I am working on that! Mine is currently being shipped
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Hey Speck. Any news on the new DA Centurion variant? Last news I saw was back in September when you mentioned the 3D master was in. I'm looking at making an order in December, and I was curious if it would be out by then.
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Hey Speck. Any news on the new DA Centurion variant? Last news I saw was back in September when you mentioned the 3D master was in. I'm looking at making an order in December, and I was curious if it would be out by then.
I heard from Speck about 2 weeks ago that it was getting molded. Haven't heard anything since...
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has anyone have any pics of the new cougar mini . and does anyone know what's coming next year or is it still in the air . thanks
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I'd sure be interested in the Phoenix Hawk IIC 7
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I think this is safe as the mini should be releasing any minute now.... Speck, let me know if I should take this down.
(https://i.imgur.com/sy7omBj.jpg)
I am not totally pleased with how the paint job turned out. And of course the camera makes everything seem worse. This is a 3D printed prototype of the forthcoming miniature.
Here's the CAD model:
(https://i.imgur.com/pSsmVYS.jpg)
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EDIT: You did! Disregard.
I like that a lot. What pieces? Looking at the model, I'd say feet, legs, hips, torso, and arms?
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EDIT: You did! Disregard.
I like that a lot. What pieces? Looking at the model, I'd say feet, legs, hips, torso, and arms?
Yep, exactly that. And maybe some covers for the Missile Launchers combined with a CT laser piece so the B config can be done as well :D
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Can't wait!
Yep, exactly that. And maybe some covers for the Missile Launchers combined with a CT laser piece so the B config can be done as well :D
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really nice , well done mini . gonna have to pick up one or two . thanks for the pics .
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EDIT: You did! Disregard.
I like that a lot. What pieces? Looking at the model, I'd say feet, legs, hips, torso, and arms?
looks like two piece arms
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looks like two piece arms
That's the beauty of 3D printing and owning the model. I can pre-pose the miniature any which way I like. As such, the exact way those arms are posed isn't possible without a jeweler's saw for the final mini. The arms are straight by default for the IWM mini.
As a cool tidbit, the arms themselves are actually 3 pieces each and the legs are 2 piece in the 3D model, I just had to combine parts for the final mini so people could actually assemble it without throwing it into the wall in frustration ;D
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...Shut up and take my C-bills!
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...Shut up and take my C-bills!
Hmmm... Given: http://www.sarna.net/wiki/C-Bill
I'll take, oh, maybe 50 C-bills at the 3025 exchange rate?
(Mods, this is a joke, nothing is for sale)
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The cougar looks great. Nice job.
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I'm hoping this trend in redoing some of the older mechs continues. I have the new uziel , stalker 2 , highlander and many more of the recent sculpts and their looks and size show a attention to detail that has me buying mechs again .
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Digging the cougar, would love to see the Jaguar and Pixie 2c as well, since both fit into future purchases
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Just wanted to say I’m loving the new Cougar design. Can’t wait to see more like that!
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My kingdom for a Swordsman mini... 😢 I would LOVE if IWM finished the last of the Primitive mech designs! My Old Folks Regiment needs them! 😂
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Hey Speck, any word on the next mini for fan finance? I believe the Bellerophon is up next...
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I don't get the Bellerophon. It's image great. But it's failed design, it barely had handful made of them. Why have mini of it?
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Because it got a TRO entry. If a mech got a TRO entry, the odds of it getting a mini are roughly 90%. If in-universe more than one were built, the odds are much closer to 100%. You'll note that I haven't mentioned if the unit is any good in actual gameplay or in universe.
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you can build a not insubstantial force of just minis for chassis that went extinct before the 4thSW. The Rifleman III is a similar case
there is a sculpt for various units with histories like the Bellerophon in other eras as well - eg the BNC-11X from XTRO Steiner
Ironically, IWM will sell more Bellerophons than were produced in-universe. I know I'll be getting one.
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Also remember the bellerophron was liberally produced in the Jihad era’s retrotech craze. Probably more made then during the age of war.
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It was?
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Solaris produced a few during the Jihad, I think that's it.
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Also remember the bellerophron was liberally produced in the Jihad era’s retrotech craze. Probably more made then during the age of war.
I need to look at the objective. Pdf
I tgink it wasnt very unplayable in original form.
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I need to look at the objective. Pdf
I tgink it wasnt very unplayable in original form.
They didn’t produce a new variant.
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Sure you aren't thinking of the Gallant?
(I like both mechs cuz of looks)
Also remember the bellerophron was liberally produced in the Jihad era’s retrotech craze. Probably more made then during the age of war.
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Sure you aren't thinking of the Gallant?
(I like both mechs cuz of looks)
Objectives Lyran Alloance has Solaris making the Bellerphron for several years ending in 3079.
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Objectives Lyran Alloance has Solaris making the Bellerphron for several years ending in 3079.
The MUL lists it as extinct in all eras, so they likely didn't build a lot of them.
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I've found mul possible incomplete. The books are canon. I think just not enough folks are able work on them. :(
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The MUL is all volunteer, and not very many of them. And Battletech is big enough that it'll likely never be complete.
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There we go... MUL updated.
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The MUL is all volunteer...
Isn´t this with everything Battletech? >:D
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Isn´t this with everything Battletech? >:D
Pretty much.
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So how long till the next classic is released? I know some are on hold, but the non-mcross will be in plastic soon enough, will any of those be in metal before the box releases??
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So how long till the next classic is released? I know some are on hold, but the non-mcross will be in plastic soon enough, will any of those be in metal before the box releases??
I remember that was several times mentioned that there will be no IWM releases of minis that will be in new boxes before box release.
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Maybe they should do a primitives lance pack instead. CGL would likely not hold back that.
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Maybe they should do a primitives lance pack instead. CGL would likely not hold back that.
the original statement was in the 2016 gencon thread and i don't recall anything from tptb that indicates they've changed their policy
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I will get the next Fan Finance up this week. Sorry for my long absence, been busy with some side projects and time flew by.
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I will get the next Fan Finance up this week. Sorry for my long absence, been busy with some side projects and time flew by.
Looking forward to and this might answer my question: any production date info on the Anzu?
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Looking forward to and this might answer my question: any production date info on the Anzu?
Yes there is, no I can't share it :)
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any production date info on the Anzu?
Mwahahahaha!!!!... }:)
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Well, I just kitbased one ...
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Mwahahahaha!!!!... }:)
:'(
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Looking forward to and this might answer my question: any production date info on the Anzu?
According to the MUL, 3098. :'(
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(For reference everyone, if you see the sculptors and artists talking about a sculpt, it means it is probably being worked on)
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Well, I just kitbased one ...
I am not seeing the thread where you posted this creation....
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According to the MUL, 3098. :'(
Well I do hope to have it done a little sooner. That’s probably just the mass production date. ;)
Dak
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Will we get any IWM
presents stuff to spend money on for Christmas?
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I got an email from Michael (el Presidente) about 4 weeks ago:
IWM will be shipping its 4th quarter 2017 BattleTech releases right after Thanksgiving, the week of November 27th.
4th Quarter 2017 BattleTech Release - November 2017
20-5154 Jaguar (Standard) Mech - 35 Tons - TRO 3145 Lyran Commonwealth MSRP - $11.95
20-5155 Cougar Prime / B Mech - 35 Tons - TRO 3060 MSRP - $11.50
20-5156 Phoenix Hawk IIC 7 Mech - 80 Tons - TRO 3085 MSRP - $17.95
20-5157 Enforcer III ENF-7D Mech - 50 Tons - XTRO Republic Vol 1 MSRP - $12.95
Not sure if I have seen this announcement repeated here on the forum. I apologise if it is old news but I have been a bit busy at this end and have been struggling to stay abreast of all the latest and greatest news.
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Their finally making new Phoenix Hawk IIC?? I hope it comes out right, it's has barrels in the shoulder like the standard variant is suppose to have.
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it's the one from TRO:3085 that is part of the reseen mk2 art
(http://cfw.sarna.net/wiki/images/thumb/1/16/Phoenix_hawk_iic_7.png/603px-goh0tzl6dphhmc80f6yb62lkw3425ku.png?timestamp=20110121194421)
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The Jaguar is listed in the catalog of an online retailer I use. The other three are not, so I suspect that they are IWM online only.
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The Jaguar is listed in the catalog of an online retailer I use. The other three are not, so I suspect that they are IWM online only.
I've preordered the Phoenix Hawk IIC 7 from my flgs and the cougar is in their catalog so I assume those are all retail
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Those four are all available on retail distribution (ie should be available from your LGS or online retailer, even if it has to be by special order).
The IWM webstore exclusive minis have a BT-XXXX catalogue number whereas the retail distribution minis have a 20-XXXX catalogue number.
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I've got a dark age Raven unit that is eyeing the Phoenix Hawk IIC 7 greedily.
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Could we hope for a warhammer IIC 7 to follow the phoenix hawk on a space walk?
On a related note, which other unit would could be made for a S-team?
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Shadow Hawk IIC 5 (IIRC) and Dark Crow 3. Anyway, those were the units I wrote up as being part of the S-Teams in TR3085.
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I'm still waiting for the Von Rohr over here!
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I'm still waiting for the Von Rohr over here!
my money catapult waits in ambush for this project
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I'm still waiting for the Von Rohr over here!
That will be up after Stingers next mech. Sorry for the wait :(
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What's going on with the Catapult II? One online store expects it to become available soon.
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If my flgs has its Q1 preorders right (as it has for at least the last two years), the catapult II will release along side the Marauder 7D, HawkWolf, and Xanthos 7O
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What's going on with the Catapult II? One online store expects it to become available soon.
If my flgs has its Q1 preorders right (as it has for at least the last two years), the catapult II will release along side the Marauder 7D, HawkWolf, and Xanthos 7O
The next batch of New Releases will be the following...
20-5158 Xanthos XNT-7O
20-5159 Catapult II CPLT-L7
20-5160 Marauder MAD-7D / MAD-9D
20-5161 HawkWolf HWK-4F
As far as being released soon...probably not. Last I talked to IWM on this subject, it was going to be roughly around Mid to End of February that these would be released. THIS IS NOT A 100% THING...crap happens, schedules get pushed back, or on a rare occasion moved up. So it could be slightly sooner, or later.
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Having managed to get a very kind person to send me the MAD 7D/9D from GenCon ... it's a lovely mini, very good to work with. Not quite as good as the Classic, but definitely worth adding to your collection.
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As far as being released soon...probably not. Last I talked to IWM on this subject, it was going to be roughly around Mid to End of February that these would be released. THIS IS NOT A 100% THING...crap happens, schedules get pushed back, or on a rare occasion moved up. So it could be slightly sooner, or later.
I seem to recall recent history of iwm’s quarterly releases falling the back end of the three month window so late February/ early March isn’t terribly out of the ordinary
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Having managed to get a very kind person to send me the MAD 7D/9D from GenCon ... it's a lovely mini, very good to work with. Not quite as good as the Classic, but definitely worth adding to your collection.
Agreed...I've got 2 here myself.
I seem to recall recent history of iwm’s quarterly releases falling the back end of the three month window so late February/ early March isn’t terribly out of the ordinary
Yep...that does happen from time to time, but they have been pretty good lately.
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Im still waiting for the release of one of the new Classics. >:(
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This summer at the earliest, and that is presuming the box sets hit streets in April.
Of course some are pending legal issues. I am still trying to track down one more of those wasps before they got pulled
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Swordsman
Swordsman
Swordsman
Swordsman
Aaaaaand...
Swordsman...
Please 😁
Pretty please?? 😁
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Swordsman
Swordsman
Swordsman
Swordsman
Aaaaaand...
Swordsman...
Please 😁
Pretty please?? 😁
I wish, but this will most likely have to be a Fan Funded Mech.
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Did I miss the announcement of this quarter's release? I will want to make sure the local store orders extra of what I am interested in, last few orders everyone else got the new stuff.
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There wasn’t a public announcement but
The next batch of New Releases will be the following...
20-5158 Xanthos XNT-7O
20-5159 Catapult II CPLT-L7
20-5160 Marauder MAD-7D / MAD-9D
20-5161 HawkWolf HWK-4F
As far as being released soon...probably not. Last I talked to IWM on this subject, it was going to be roughly around Mid to End of February that these would be released. THIS IS NOT A 100% THING...crap happens, schedules get pushed back, or on a rare occasion moved up. So it could be slightly sooner, or later.
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What happened to the Cougar?
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Already released
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The resculpt?
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Yeah Q4 retail
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I have images of a prototype, but I haven't seen one in metal yet.
(https://i.imgur.com/M605iRv.jpg)
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What do the Cougar B parts look like?
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What do the Cougar B parts look like?
I don't know anyone that has bought any from me that has turned them into the B variant, but if that happens I'll get you a pic.
Stinger should have the render of the B varaint though!
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Matt's (Stinger's) Cougar B...
Deleted. Sorry. See bellow...
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Matt's (Stinger's) Cougar B...
(http://www.ironwindmetals.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1592)
I didnt see a link or a picture in the post....but when I quoted it to reply the link appeared. I am not authorized to download it though
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I just posted the Cougar Prime resculpt in the minis section but not the B config.
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Matt's (Stinger's) Cougar B...
[img ]http://www.ironwindmetals.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1592[ /img]
Looks like a file attached to a secured forum. You'll have to download it yourself and upload here as an attachment.
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(https://i.imgur.com/BPzY51m.jpg?1)
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Cool Thank you!
I like the missile cover options. The arms look the same
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Cool Thank you!
I like the missile cover options. The arms look the same
Arms are the same. Its the cost of having both configs inside the same blister :)
If there is enough interest, I may request IWM make variants available via fan financing, but that is completely up to them to move forward with it.
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Is the Cougar compatible with the 3050 omni parts?
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Arms are the same. Its the cost of having both configs inside the same blister :)
If there is enough interest, I may request IWM make variants available via fan financing, but that is completely up to them to move forward with it.
It's all good, I really like the look of this mini and can't wait to get a couple. I think I can easily add PPC barrels to the arms
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Is the Cougar compatible with the 3050 omni parts?
Not explicitly, no. Should be pretty easy to mod though. The arms have several points where a jewelers saw will be able to get in no problem, and then the missile covers should serve as a great starting point for several other mods.
The 3050 parts just don't really fit in with the shoulders of the cougar, it just doesn't make a ton of sense.
It's all good, I really like the look of this mini and can't wait to get a couple. I think I can easily add PPC barrels to the arms
Should be very very easy :)
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Updated the IWM release schedule on IWM website for 2018
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I need Anzus and Antlions right now.
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Testudo!
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/f96f1e39fc8bca5fb0dcf2aa5d97d84f/tumblr_inline_nvez6bFaDo1tr68ji_500.gif)
ANZU!!!
(https://i.imgur.com/nO3lFt9.gif)
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Hawkwolf? It will be nice and I will have to tell my FLGS to order +1 for me . . . same with Anzu.
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Anzu is a beauty so far. Haven't seen the hawkwolf yet myself...
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Excited for the mongoose gunslinger and the crusader 8L. Both are some of my favorite pieces of art. I’ll be happy if the minis just come close.
I am curious about the decision recently to release variants on existing sculpts; what’s the thought process behind additional sculpts of the same mini verses new sculpts?
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I need an antlion to complete a lance I'm working on.
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I am curious about the decision recently to release variants on existing sculpts; what’s the thought process behind additional sculpts of the same mini verses new sculpts?
There's long been a practice of mixing variants in with completely new builds. Some have taken the route of extra parts in the blister (Banshee), or alternate parts to be purchased separately (3050 omnis), or complete minis (PP Locust and Osts come to mind as being on the odd side). Likewise, there are a number of different reasons variant sculpts are pursued. Some are special packs like the Bounty Hunter, Sword & Dragon, or con releases. When I've worked on the con packs, I've tried to add value by changing pose, working on the overall look, or including parts that could increase the appeal of what might otherwise be seen as just another variant of X. That in itself has ended up generating a few "extra" minis. In other cases, new art or a new variant in print may spike interest in a sculpt that just hasn't held up well (see the first generation of 3055 minis for multiple examples; the Huron Warrior and Battle Hawk got way better sculpts the second time around). For a more recent example, the P-Hawk IIC project ended up being nearly a full resculpt to trim some of the proportions on the earlier PP version and bring it more in line with other minis of similar weight. Still more sculpts can be the result of fan financing getting behind a project that otherwise might not be a prime candidate, or even the LD having something he feels could benefit from an update (the Mongoose for one - for a long time it's been good 'Mech with blah looks). Don't know if that answers your question or not; I'm not privy to every decision, so for many specifics I simply won't know where it stemmed from.
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No classics on the list?? :'(
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Well, there was a quarter with just 3 announced . . . and no Con announcements yet . . .
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Are there images of this Crusader 8L? I didn't see that on the list before, but you have my attention.
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Are there images of this Crusader 8L? I didn't see that on the list before, but you have my attention.
Nope. Nothing as yet.
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With the -8L Crusader getting a mini how about a -8S version? Because who doesn't want a Crusader with a Heavy Gauss?
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MAD-3R is the only thing so far that decides whether my gameshop has to do another "supply run".
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I customized one. Kinda unsatisfied with the arms I did though.
With the -8L Crusader getting a mini how about a -8S version? Because who doesn't want a Crusader with a Heavy Gauss?
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<snip> oops - apologies
W.
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Deep Worktroll...but I think you might have meant to post that to a different thread.
As for the release list: Dasher II? Mongoose Gunslinger? Anzu? HAVE YOU BEEN READING MY MIND! I want all of those.
Oh, and I see my precious, the CN11-OD, is on the list as well. Must...have...chop-turion!
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Anzu is a beauty so far. Haven't seen the hawkwolf yet myself...
Picts up of the anzu?
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I customized one. Kinda unsatisfied with the arms I did though.
I would like to see what you did with it. What did you use for the HGR?
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A barrel from a Hetzer.
http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=57364.msg1320037#msg1320037
I would like to see what you did with it. What did you use for the HGR?
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With the -8L Crusader getting a mini how about a -8S version? Because who doesn't want a Crusader with a Heavy Gauss?
I'd rate it as 'not at this time'. I don't think it would be too hard to do, going from either sculpt as a base. Thinking from the -8L, we'd be talking about different arms, then adding the HGR and jump jets to the torso. Certainly could be a fan-finance project that shouldn't be too expensive to undertake, it was just beyond the aim of the -8L project.
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I'm just going to refuse to change my underwear in silent protest until my Swordsman hits production... 😁
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I'm just going to refuse to change my underwear in silent protest until my Swordsman hits production... 😁
Your protest may be silent, but it will certainly be odorous. You will also be very alone until you change said underwear
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I'm just going to refuse to change my underwear in silent protest until my Swordsman hits production... 😁
I will do the same with a jug of cocoa. Even if I have to wait till it speaks.
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I'm just going to refuse to change my underwear in silent protest until my Swordsman hits production... 😁
I predict your action will come to a sticky end.
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Dumb question- has there been a mini done yet (outside the WK one) for the Hanse MBT? I had that tank on the brain a few nights ago and have a plan on how to paint one, but no idea if it's in the works or not.
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Dumb question- has there been a mini done yet (outside the WK one) for the Hanse MBT? I had that tank on the brain a few nights ago and have a plan on how to paint one, but no idea if it's in the works or not.
I not yet. Most DA Vees haven't been made yet because they sell poorly. Contact your favorite sculptor and Speck if you want to finance lol.
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Any reason for the drop from four to three releases per quarter?
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Funny how its later quarters . . . after . . . maybe . . . a box release?
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I'd rate it as 'not at this time'. I don't think it would be too hard to do, going from either sculpt as a base. Thinking from the -8L, we'd be talking about different arms, then adding the HGR and jump jets to the torso. Certainly could be a fan-finance project that shouldn't be too expensive to undertake, it was just beyond the aim of the -8L project.
I will definitely be putting the -8S in for the next round of fan financing.
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Speck, what are the chances we can get out a few more of the 3145 BA designs worked in? The Amazon and Marauder were good starts, but there are many good looking suits of armor to go.
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I wonder why so much work is put into the Project Phoenix mechs. Since PP Mechs were made to replace the Unseens how much relevance do they have now that we will get the far superior designs of the Newseens?
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I wonder why so much work is put into the Project Phoenix mechs. Since PP Mechs were made to replace the Unseens how much relevance do they have now that we will get the far superior designs of the Newseens?
Three things:
1: Better is subjective.
2: It seems unwise to assume the Classics are here to stay until after the current legal stuff is resolved.
3: Even if they are here to stay, it's still a known in-universe fact that the majority of them were refitted to the Project Phoenix standard, and the various flavors of Phoenix are how they look from that time onwards. Evolving pre-3060s images don't change this.
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What do you mean by "so much work"? If memory serves (which it doesn't always), there have been a total of 2 projects involving PP designs in the past year. One is being fan-financed. The other was for a con pack. The latter was received well enough that the decision was made to move the variant blister to a distribution release. If a 'Mech looks cool and sells well, what's the problem?
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Probably more of the art looks like something the dog ate is most cases. I for one can not stand most of the PP art designs, though a few of the minis do look good. Would still rather have the classics though. With the Wasp, Valkyrie and the Phoenix not being part of the legal issue (they were known to HG since they cited products using said designs) I just hope those at least will get used regardless of how the legal issues turn out.
In any event, I just hope IWM starts up the metal for the non Macross designs that will be in the box sets soon. My Shadow Hawks are getting lonely.
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Speck, what are the chances we can get out a few more of the 3145 BA designs worked in? The Amazon and Marauder were good starts, but there are many good looking suits of armor to go.
These could be a few in the future.
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Deep Worktroll...but I think you might have meant to post that to a different thread.
As for the release list: Dasher II? Mongoose Gunslinger? Anzu? HAVE YOU BEEN READING MY MIND! I want all of those.
Oh, and I see my precious, the CN11-OD, is on the list as well. Must...have...chop-turion!
I should have the Centurion D up next week for sale.
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Yay!
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I see it on the site now in the new releases! yay! I'm debating whether to order up a couple now, or wait till the Dasher II and Mongoose Gunslinger are out...who am I kidding, I suck at waiting.
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Will the Dasher II come with arms to make it the original/2 model as well as the 3??.
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Will the Dasher II come with arms to make it the original/2 model as well as the 3??.
Just 3
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Too bad... pretty sure i can mod it though 🙂
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What do you mean by "so much work"? If memory serves (which it doesn't always), there have been a total of 2 projects involving PP designs in the past year. One is being fan-financed. The other was for a con pack. The latter was received well enough that the decision was made to move the variant blister to a distribution release. If a 'Mech looks cool and sells well, what's the problem?
If it sells well, it's helping. Looking cool is just a bonus. ;)
Hooray for financial stability!
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Speck, what are the chances we can get out a few more of the 3145 BA designs worked in? The Amazon and Marauder were good starts, but there are many good looking suits of armor to go.
Bumping.
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yeah . . . I need some Ogre BA, they are just too good for their BV not to take.
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Bumping.
These could be a few in the future.
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Please remember that bumping is not allowed on these forums.
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I would like to see the Zou BA
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Please remember that bumping is not allowed on these forums.
What about biting, stabbing, cutting, or licking??
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What happens in the Hall, will be used to judge you in the afterlife. Also, lickers often become lickees...
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These could be a few in the future.
Totally missed this. Curse my flawed Freeborn eyes. Most welcome news.
Please remember that bumping is not allowed on these forums.
My bad. Won't happen twice.
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My republic needs some Simians before it's downfall. ;D
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I just posted the 4th Quarter releases to IWM online store.
Annoucement (http://www.ironwindmetals.com/index.php/component/content/article/10-factory-news/78-4th-quarter-2017-battletech-releases-in-webstore)
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Already ordered two of the centurions! I think the Phoenix hawk IIC will have to wait for my next order though. I do want one, but I don’t need it ASAP. Thanks Speck!
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These could be a few in the future.
I've been away from the forum for a good long while, but i saw this post and had to ask if there was update on this? Which armors do you think we'll get and do you think fan funding will open up for some BAs? There are a bunch from 3145 that i'm dying to add to my collection (i'm looking at you Grey Death Infiltrator ;) )
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my Q1 preorder showed up at my FLGS today (except the Catapult II that the distributor is apparently out of despite the fact that I preordered it :'()
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my Q1 preorder showed up at my FLGS today (except the Catapult II that the distributor is apparently out of despite the fact that I preordered it :'()
Catapult II got delayed.
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Am I having a stroke or was the bellerophron going to me on the sechedule for 2018 somewhere? Or was that for fan finance. Dak showed me a prototype of it last gencon and i have been gushing since
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Bellerophon (and Von Rohrs) are ready to roll anytime. We just need Speck to setup another funding thread. You're not too crazy after all.
Dak
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Bellerophon (and Von Rohrs) are ready to roll anytime. We just need Speck to setup another funding thread. You're not too crazy after all.
Dak
Need they be 'crowded', or can single donations be sufficient? Secondly, if sufficient (from either case), must there be a pre-determined element to be reviewed? OR can anything be specified outside of 'official' review.
IE, "I would like to have XYZ mini be created, take my money" :) (I know IWM offers contract sculpting services, but would that include creating new mini's for BT?)
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Now I like the look of the Bellerephon ... but how many are likely to be sold, ever? Likewise, the Von Rohr? Even with fan funding, is it worth IWM's time & effort?
Which is why it's IWM's call, not mine.
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Bellerophon (and Von Rohrs) are ready to roll anytime. We just need Speck to setup another funding thread. You're not too crazy after all.
Dak
ARM THE MONEY-PULT
Catapult II got delayed.
poop. my oddly large collection of catapults needs reinforcements.
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Now I like the look of the Bellerephon ... but how many are likely to be sold, ever? Likewise, the Von Rohr? Even with fan funding, is it worth IWM's time & effort?
Which is why it's IWM's call, not mine.
How much does a mold cost?
When the archive came into effect, I think they said something like minis that sold less than a dozen in the previous year got shelved? If that’s the bar, I don’t see that as too high. If it’s 100? They definitely won’t break even in the foreseeable future. These are online exclusives in what I imagine are pretty small batches so at least they’re not languishing in a distribution warehouse.
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I'm not holding my breath for the Prometheus, Epimetheus or Wildfire getting minis either, and they at least got a whole adventure dedicated to them, while there are variants that get a single line and a mini. 🤣
Now I like the look of the Bellerephon ... but how many are likely to be sold, ever? Likewise, the Von Rohr? Even with fan funding, is it worth IWM's time & effort?
Which is why it's IWM's call, not mine.
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Now I like the look of the Bellerephon ... but how many are likely to be sold, ever? Likewise, the Von Rohr? Even with fan funding, is it worth IWM's time & effort?
Which is why it's IWM's call, not mine.
I agree wholeheartedly. Plenty of TRO units that have wanted for minis for years, that have prominent mentions in fluff and prominent appearances on RATs in products covering the "here-and-now" of BattleTech, yet designs that were around a few decades at best in the Age of War get priority. It would be one thing if these came back as Jihad RetroTech like the Toro, or Firebee, or BattleAxe, but they did not.
I don't know. Quite a few of my peers evidently see a lot more Age of War games on their boards than I do.
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I agree wholeheartedly. Plenty of TRO units that have wanted for minis for years.
nominate and vote for them in the polls. thats how many of the AoW units got a sculpt.
the 2018 retail release schedule currently contains one (1) sculpt that isn't from TRO: Project Phoenix or later (the Mongoose from XTRO: Gunslingers). Sculpts scheduled for retail release in the future aren't eligible for the fan funding option. These niche units are why this sculpting pathway exists.
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First, I'm not knocking the people who've put their money where their mouths are. I've contributed to some fan-fundings myself; mainly primitives to replace Reseens.
But I suspect the interest for these obscure 'Mechs come from what I'd call the "pokemon collectors" - gotta get them all! I'm largely in that camp myself. Just my battalion making makes me more inclined to back things that can actually be fielded outside one narrow slice of time & place.
But to each their own. As long as the process is contributing to IWM's success, I shall try and cultivate patience ;)
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Did we ever get a photo of the Anzu mini? I am sort of curious . . .
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Now I like the look of the Bellerephon ... but how many are likely to be sold, ever? Likewise, the Von Rohr? Even with fan funding, is it worth IWM's time & effort?
Which is why it's IWM's call, not mine.
I would argue quite a few for the Bellerophron. it may have been a failed prototype during the Age of War, but during the Jihad it came back and served as a cheap heavy hitter in the mercenary market. it will never be a top 20 seller for the line, but I think it has a respectable niche
now the Von Rhors...yeah I only want one cause it looks like a good "Megatron" for a Decepticons side project I have had brewing for a while. THAT is a limited run piece.
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Did we ever get a photo of the Anzu mini? I am sort of curious . . .
Anzu is set for 2nd Quarter...but no pictures yet.
20-5162 Anzu ZU-G60
20-5163 Mongoose Gunslinger MON-66GX
20-5164 Dasher II 3
The 1st Quarter releases just got to my store and are available but was short the Catapult II due to a sculptor dropping the project. It will be released later this year as another sculptor will pick it up. Not sure if the delay on the 1st Quarter released (they had intended to be out mid-February) will impact the 2nd Quarter releases or not. Speck can probably answer that one.
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That is too bad on the catapult II. But if I am honest it was going to be setting on my pegboard for awhile before I could get to it.
I look forward to that mongoose, that thing looks mean in the art.
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That is too bad on the catapult II. But if I am honest it was going to be setting on my pegboard for awhile before I could get to it.
I look forward to that mongoose, that thing looks mean in the art.
Yeah, really diggin the Mongoose. I wish IWM could use it for another "Clear Resin" mini at GenCon due to its specs. I'd love to have one.
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You read my mind.
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Do we know much about the Dasher II 3 yet? Like, piece count or any teaser pics? Same question for the Mongoose.
I'm curious how much work it might be to mod the Dasher II back into one of it's other variants. I'm sure the arms will be all kinds of wrong with their claws and no lasers, but the PPC in the chest...is it molded into the torso piece, or is it a separate add-on part? I'm guessing it is molded-in, but you never know.
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Do we know much about the Dasher II 3 yet? Like, piece count or any teaser pics? Same question for the Mongoose.
I'm curious how much work it might be to mod the Dasher II back into one of it's other variants. I'm sure the arms will be all kinds of wrong with their claws and no lasers, but the PPC in the chest...is it molded into the torso piece, or is it a separate add-on part? I'm guessing it is molded-in, but you never know.
No word yet...not sure who is doing them either. If/when I find out I will try to remember to post here.
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IIRC Dave is handling the Dasher. I've got the Mongoose. 4 pieces (legs, torso, arms). Running pose, because a Mongoose really shouldn't be standing still when it can be seen. ;)
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IIRC Dave is handling the Dasher. I've got the Mongoose. 4 pieces (legs, torso, arms). Running pose, because a Mongoose really shouldn't be standing still when it can be seen. ;)
Thanks Dave Psycho. Please make the head better. The single piece with torso with no neck just looks....tired.
Edit: Was too early when I posted this.
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Thanks Dave. Please make the head better. The single piece with torso with no neck just looks....tired.
The Dasher has a neck? ???
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IIRC Dave is handling the Dasher. I've got the Mongoose. 4 pieces (legs, torso, arms). Running pose, because a Mongoose really shouldn't be standing still when it can be seen. ;)
Who is this 'Dave' of which you speak, and how do I woo him into making 1/2 variant arms with little laser barrels and a 'clean' torso? Does he, perhaps, like beer?
Oh, and thanks for the info on the Mongoose. I was disappointed when it didn't make the fan-funding list and I'm glad to see it will make it into metal after all. What sort of arm connections are you doing with the little guy? Post/Hole? Ball/Socket? Flat surface with a locating bump/pin?
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Who is this 'Dave' of which you speak, and how do I woo him into making 1/2 variant arms with little laser barrels and a 'clean' torso? Does he, perhaps, like beer?
Oh, and thanks for the info on the Mongoose. I was disappointed when it didn't make the fan-funding list and I'm glad to see it will make it into metal after all. What sort of arm connections are you doing with the little guy? Post/Hole? Ball/Socket? Flat surface with a locating bump/pin?
looks like a candidate for the first two depending whether the shoulder joint is sculpted into the arm or torso respectively
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What's the Bellerephon from? I tried looking it up on the MUL but there wasn't an entry.
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What's the Bellerephon from? I tried looking it up on the MUL but there wasn't an entry.
Probably because you misspelled the name.
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/3817/bellerophon-bel-1x (http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/3817/bellerophon-bel-1x)
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I've been away from the forum for a good long while, but i saw this post and had to ask if there was update on this? Which armors do you think we'll get and do you think fan funding will open up for some BAs? There are a bunch from 3145 that i'm dying to add to my collection (i'm looking at you Grey Death Infiltrator ;) )
Speck said a while ago that there could be a few BAs in the pipeline soon. Does anyone have an answer to my question above?
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Who is this 'Dave' of which you speak, and how do I woo him into making 1/2 variant arms with little laser barrels and a 'clean' torso? Does he, perhaps, like beer?
Oh, and thanks for the info on the Mongoose. I was disappointed when it didn't make the fan-funding list and I'm glad to see it will make it into metal after all. What sort of arm connections are you doing with the little guy? Post/Hole? Ball/Socket? Flat surface with a locating bump/pin?
Summers; he's far less active now, but you may remember pieces like the resculpted Huron Warrior and Battle Hawk. I can't speak for what may motivate him, though I will also note that the variant choice was a directive and not his call.
Post and hole is what's working out. Those extra shoulder plates need to fit tight to look right. To get the flexibility for a ball and socket you need space for the joint to move, and that's the conflict here. I like to strike a balance between ease of assembly and giving the player options when building. Sometimes that works out, sometimes it doesn't. With a small mini, keeping the number of parts down is a priority.
Speck said a while ago that there could be a few BAs in the pipeline soon. Does anyone have an answer to my question above?
There is interest by an individual who wishes to fund some BA. I have no information beyond that.
Thanks Dave Psycho. Please make the head better. The single piece with torso with no neck just looks....tired.
No problem. When tasked with sculpting a mini, I have to work with the art and direction that's provided; the Mongoose's head is not one that's meant to articulate. Any changes going from provided artwork to the mini are discussed beforehand among the QC group. I'm not at liberty to make changes based on outside input. Your opinion is valid, but so is the next person's. To avoid being caught up with opposing viewpoints, I've got to stick with what Brent and co. say.
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Summers; he's far less active now, but you may remember pieces like the resculpted Huron Warrior and Battle Hawk. I can't speak for what may motivate him, though I will also note that the variant choice was a directive and not his call.
Post and hole is what's working out. Those extra shoulder plates need to fit tight to look right. To get the flexibility for a ball and socket you need space for the joint to move, and that's the conflict here. I like to strike a balance between ease of assembly and giving the player options when building. Sometimes that works out, sometimes it doesn't. With a small mini, keeping the number of parts down is a priority.
There is interest by an individual who wishes to fund some BA. I have no information beyond that.
No problem. When tasked with sculpting a mini, I have to work with the art and direction that's provided; the Mongoose's head is not one that's meant to articulate. Any changes going from provided artwork to the mini are discussed beforehand among the QC group. I'm not at liberty to make changes based on outside input. Your opinion is valid, but so is the next person's. To avoid being caught up with opposing viewpoints, I've got to stick with what Brent and co. say.
Ah. I mean more this:
Here is the 3025-revised art: (http://cfw.sarna.net/wiki/images/b/b5/MON-Mongoose.png)
But the mini sinks the head down between the shoulders a fair amount. (https://s3.amazonaws.com/cso-images/schemes/40_foxbatcomstar97hmongoose01.jpg)
I'm more talking about the head should look like it can rotate, not stuck down.
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Bear in mind, the upcoming mini is specifically of the Mongoose Gunslinger (http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/7318/mongoose-gunslinger-mon-66gx), so there's only that one piece of art that can be referenced.
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Personally, I don’t mind a no-neck Mongoose. I’m not the best at gluing tiny heads on anyway! I like the rather helmet-and-pads look of the TRO art actually. Maybe I’m boring, but I don’t tend to do a whole lot with separate heads anyway. I mostly just try to keep them from looking disjointed or drunk. Anyway, I’m pretty excited about these releases. The Anzu, Dasher II, and Mongoose Gunslinger are ALL mechs I want to own.
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(http://cfw.sarna.net/wiki/images/b/b5/MON-Mongoose.png)
Not to be mean, but that guy's kinda ugly and looks like a Mongoose' deformed cousin.
Bear in mind, the upcoming mini is specifically of the Mongoose Gunslinger (http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/7318/mongoose-gunslinger-mon-66gx), so there's only that one piece of art that can be referenced.
I need this.
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Swordsman... :'(
And yes, still rocking the same undies... I'm not sorry...
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But the mini sinks the head down between the shoulders a fair amount. https://s3.amazonaws.com/cso-images/schemes/40_foxbatcomstar97hmongoose01.jpg (https://s3.amazonaws.com/cso-images/schemes/40_foxbatcomstar97hmongoose01.jpg)
I'm more talking about the head should look like it can rotate, not stuck down.
The current mini is based on the TRO:2750 art, which it replicates quite well. I see what you mean about the Gunslinger, it's quite different. From my perspective I don't think the head could rotate because the front of the cockpit curves down the chest a bit, but the majority does appear to sit atop a flat upper torso.
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Since the Testudo has been assigned the Catalog Number once reserved for the WSP-1, might the Wasp still be released at a future time (whether in the "current" sculpt, or otherwise)?
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Were properly going end up having to use the Primitive Wasp until they clear up problems with HG. HBS Novels even used the Primitive Wasp for one of their novelette covers if i remember right.
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Since the Testudo has been assigned the Catalog Number once reserved for the WSP-1, might the Wasp still be released at a future time (whether in the "current" sculpt, or otherwise)?
That BT code for wasp was dropped when it released due to all three variants making it into the district release.
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Speck said a while ago that there could be a few BAs in the pipeline soon. Does anyone have an answer to my question above?
Sorry for the delay, I had to get things finalized. But below are three BA that will be coming later this year.
Buraq
Leoniadas
Shen Long
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When do you think we will see 2Q releases? I have a Anzu calling my name . . .
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Sorry for the delay, I had to get things finalized. But below are three BA that will be coming later this year.
Buraq
Leoniadas
Shen Long
Speck...what ever happened with the Black Wolf that was somewhere named in Fan Financing? I remember it coming in VERY close to beating out one of the mechs that did get in.
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Speck...what ever happened with the Black Wolf that was somewhere named in Fan Financing? I remember it coming in VERY close to beating out one of the mechs that did get in.
I forgot about that, was in the 2016 poll. I can see about creating a funding thread down the road if people are interested in funding it.
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I forgot about that, was in the 2016 poll. I can see about creating a funding thread down the road if people are interested in funding it.
Very interested in funding it! I know a lot of Wolf fans are looking for it and are resorting to scavenging the 1 MWDA release it was in for it!
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I'm embarrassed to ask-- what is this Black Wolf you speak of? And, why do I not know about it?? ???
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Heavy battlesuit. 3145. Artillery doesn't auto-kill it. You can guess who uses it. :)
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Heavy battlesuit. 3145. Artillery doesn't auto-kill it. You can guess who uses it. :)
Niops!
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Close! They do build them, but don't use them. The vast majority are stockpiled(the real reason they hollowed out Niops IX), and the only ones we've seen are the tiny trickle they extort circuitously to the Davion Mechwarrior Cabal. :D
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Ah, thanks guys!
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I would be down to throw a few bucks at the black wolf.
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Oh please make Black Wolfs! I hate having to stand-in these guys, and I use them almost every game.
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I'm embarrassed to ask-- what is this Black Wolf you speak of? And, why do I not know about it?? ???
Although others answered...it's this little howler...
(https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/mul-images/BattleArmor/Black%20Wolf%20Battle%20Armor.jpg)
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there was a clix model but it was at the end of the run (exclusively?) in the WD Gamma Regiment Action Pack so they're pretty tough to come by
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Sorry for the delay, I had to get things finalized. But below are three BA that will be coming later this year.
Buraq
Leoniadas
Shen Long
Awesome! I could put all three to use.
And please get back to us on that Black Wolf funding thread. I have money to throw at that sculpt.
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Awesome! I could put all three to use.
And please get back to us on that Black Wolf funding thread. I have money to throw at that sculpt.
:)
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Sorry for the delay, I had to get things finalized. But below are three BA that will be coming later this year.
Buraq
Leoniadas
Shen Long
Neat!! especially excited about the leonidas. If fan funding is up again (i'm still a bit out of the loop there) i would love to try and get the GD infiltrator done up; is this a possibility?
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Anzu picture . . . ?
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Anzu picture . . . ?
I think Dak might have a shot of that...
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I think Dak might have a shot of that...
(https://i.imgur.com/nO3lFt9.gif)
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I wuz first!
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Ro1lmily8UVj_N9TJ__i4Nil2yvXPj-Oblg2d35qK-TGtdlNJmMZ2CKADwe1qgxLGYN7pdi5CrKo-4p5Kn25R_Cg-rjqTtBFeu0MEXRJpCLs60-EEocti7k4FW6eBQf3xhi8OHvhUV38XWccwtWlLe4NsAT08qbMimtkyXf1r52FhvEuzqWwj-QBkDodz7I1mYXQ2WCl1cKzCnSRqRWxYZuijYMnH7PNAfOXTxni60wWVXtHnOEjyz9wAZVm1w86oInJqBeoFWU-GhptLO1oslTQkO17J_nywS9-kwiUw41gwhn5dgkq8GHcvfWxuTLLiMTdRjP_Gb-ittfnWwmUKFT3NvBFi-IYMxdwDpJ25Xox7AL__x1dU8gzLM91Y53cc4FhApgGZv5mD3tH_uVl64-GZXOulMyX4NCqV2cplSYRcURUG1AVAwnpkeL893QI66LG4p03vKO7542cNDlYyM2JYIbw6-L3phZ1vbdlxzA0ThPRBKa2Ji7O5a6UdbR8OBgExXjqXzl9qTtms0BCv3-5pl2Dd_BrykrRd5IAfzghKiH2ptjqvLA-y64BMbM682woirTzYS7txyI0Dmm-GgchAUCIGqglKEmcnmSsGMcnvF4izVfidHByTVSlfPuvRDlq0X5HrCeFD0XAGz4RF7Wde3R582KN=w669-h278-no)
W ^-^
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Nice.
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I'm gonna keep screaming "Swordsman" until the stars burn out!!! 😭
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The Swordsman has heard your cries, the Swordsman approaches! But he’s not here yet. And Speck said I can’t show my Anzu sculpt yet either. He probably approaches too.
Dak
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The Swordsman has heard your cries, the Swordsman approaches! But he’s not here yet. And Speck said I can’t show my Anzu sculpt yet either. He probably approaches too.
Dak
😍 don't tease my tender heart...
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And Speck said I can’t show my Anzu sculpt yet either.
But...but...hrnnng... :'(
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I would gladly support the funding of the Black Wolf BA. After all, the Wolves will be ruling Terra in short order.
Mike
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😍 don't tease my tender heart...
::: Stomp stomp stomp :::
(https://i.imgur.com/dqMoGuk.jpg)
Dak
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I am confused since the Anzu is supposed to be out 2nd Quarter . . . which . . . is . . . now? I know they do not get to the FLGS the first day of the quarter, but . . . yeah, confused.
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::: Stomp stomp stomp :::
(https://i.imgur.com/dqMoGuk.jpg)
Dak
G I M M E
I am confused since the Anzu is supposed to be out 2nd Quarter . . . which . . . is . . . now? I know they do not get to the FLGS the first day of the quarter, but . . . yeah, confused.
I would wager more on the end of May. New releases seem to come in the second half of the quarter
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::: Stomp stomp stomp :::
(https://i.imgur.com/dqMoGuk.jpg)
Dak
... I think I love you a little bit right now... 😍🤤😍
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I would gladly support the funding of the Black Wolf BA. After all, the Wolves will be ruling Terra in short order.
Mike
Bonus Round (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=61259.0)
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I would wager more on the end of May. New releases seem to come in the second half of the quarter
Oh, I agree . . . I was expecting May if not June, but my point is since the product is supposed to be out this quarter . . . we cannot get a picture of it?
Wonder who is going to get the first painted one to CamoSpecs.
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::: Stomp stomp stomp :::
(https://i.imgur.com/dqMoGuk.jpg)
Dak
I licked it... it’s mine now
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Another primitive Shadowhawk? I like the previous one.
W >:D
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Another primitive Shadowhawk? I like the previous one.
W >:D
SWORDSMAN!!! Spelled S-W-O-R-D-S-A-W-E-S-O-M-E-M-A-N!!!
Heretic.... 😡
😁
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Swordman more Shadowhawk than the Primitive Shadowhawk could hope to be. It's plain awesome!! :D
Another primitive Shadowhawk? I like the previous one.
W >:D
It's the one of the "First" generation of Battlemechs FedSuns made. It was used primarily in the early Age of War Davion Civil War, unfortunately on the bad guys side, thus it was shunned by winning side of the FedSuns and survivor examples were shuffled off to the newly formed SLDF.
There primitive model and there was standard tech one which was pretty neat.
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Worktroll is well aware of the existence of the Swordsman. ::)
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I have such an irrational dislike for side by side mounted elbow actuators, especially on mechs with hands (Enforcer III!) but still a must get for me.
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Here's my sculpt of the Anzu! Speck cleared it for release. Big image but I'm remembering to fix the width these days...sometimes.
(https://i.imgur.com/rxOFhqq.jpg)
Dak
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Hey Speck, send me an email when I can share the Cat II...
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Is the Anzu coming with parts to make both variants?
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Is the Anzu coming with parts to make both variants?
That’s the plan
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Then I think I need to order two instead of one.
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Par Toutatis...
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--eN41O0H1--/krqh8jpuwecydo1t3njk.jpg)
I'm definitely getting two, and keeping them as Zugs instead of Zujs. But those bits...the missile racks will be perfect for my 3085 Goliath, and odds are the RAC will convince me to finally get working on Schwerer Gustav!
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Thank you . . . and yeah, now I have to decide if I want to tell the FLGS to get 2 for me rather than 1 so I can do both variants. And yeah, that spare RAC will be fun . . .
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The RAC arm was designed by IAMCLANWOLF just for full disclosure. :)
Glad you all like it. Thanks!
Dak
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This is the hotness the people deserve
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I'm in looooooove!
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That Anzu is a darned fine looking 'Mech.
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I've gotten the go ahead to share the Catapult II, but Dak has to go around showing me up with a fancy schmancy image of the Anzu, so I am going to have to generate something tonight so I don't look like slacker.
Thanks Dak :P :D
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You're welcome. Always aim to please. :P
Dak
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Anzu looks pretty sweet. I almost thought that primer was plastic. xp
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Catapult II!
(https://i.imgur.com/huqi07N.jpg)
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My money was well spent. I'll be buying a couple of those at least. Beautiful work Stinger! 8) :thumbsup:
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Ok. I'm ordering 2 as soon as they are ready
Catapult II!
(https://i.imgur.com/huqi07N.jpg)
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Oh wow, that a good rendering of it. I may have to get couple, though i get into a bloody game to use them. xp
I'm still get'em though. ;)
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Here's my sculpt of the Anzu! Speck cleared it for release. Big image but I'm remembering to fix the width these days...sometimes.
(https://i.imgur.com/rxOFhqq.jpg)
Dak
I have been waiting on this! Excited!!!
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Since the catapult is getting a dark age face lift...
What about the JL-1/2 Raider? For some reason I think this mech is cool...
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there are currently 16 TRO 3145/50 mechs that have not been produced or announced
Celerity
Cylliaros
Mongrel
Neanderthal
Scourge
Storm Raider
Ursa
Violator
Boreas
Harpagos
Phoenix Hawk L
Raider
Scarecrow
Stalking Spider II
Viking IIC
Yinguochong
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I doubt the Viking IIC will see a new mini since it appears to be outwardly identical to the stock Viking.
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I doubt the Viking IIC will see a new mini since it appears to be outwardly identical to the stock Viking.
Well, i wouldn't say it's identical and if it does make it, it would make for a great proxy.
(https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/mul-images/BattleMechs/3145/Viking%20IIC.jpg)
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Okay, it's blockier and the machine guns are located both on the outer sides of the legs instead of two outer, two inner. Still pretty close.
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The torso fuselage is smaller looking too . . . but yeah.
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Anyone know if the Defender is getting a sculpt?
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Anyone know if the Defender is getting a sculpt?
At this time, there has been no announcement, and it is not on the pending releases either, so I'd have to guess no. It may be possible in the Fan Financing if it comes up!
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*still waiting for the Anzu . . . probably annoying the FLGS guys*
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*still waiting for the Anzu . . . probably annoying the FLGS guys*
It's coming...very soon!
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It's coming...very soon!
Yes!
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we're almost two-thirds through second quarter. we've entered the window when the quarterly releases tend to drop
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I’ve been waiting for that new mongoose before I place a large order. Getting antsy. Want it so badly.
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Getting kinda close to the major conventions season...time for con specials hints, maybe? O:-)
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Amen Weirdo
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They've been decided and are being worked on. ;)
Something light, and a couple heavy from me. You don't want to get into the hint game with me though, I've built up a rep for being extremely vague even while giving accurate hints. When I hit on a way to hint while being able to have it point in multiple directions, it's even more fun. For me. >:D
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Who says it's not fun for us too? :)
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At this time, there has been no announcement, and it is not on the pending releases either, so I'd have to guess no. It may be possible in the Fan Financing if it comes up!
Talked to Speck, yeah it would have to be Fan Financed to get done anytime soon. So no Defender anytime soon then.
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What about the JL-1/2 Raider? For some reason I think this mech is cool...
I would love the Raider too :)
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Oh I would love the Raider. I've had a soft spot for militia mechs and the likes since the Quasit in TRO3075.
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The Raider looks cool, and putting the parts for the Mk I and Mk II in the blister will make my bitz box happy ;)
(Starts making notes for a DA Bannson's Raiders battalion ...)
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we're almost two-thirds through second quarter. we've entered the window when the quarterly releases tend to drop
Yes it is! All I can say...is they are on order for me! LOL
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Talked to Speck, yeah it would have to be Fan Financed to get done anytime soon. So no Defender anytime soon then.
Any hint about new fan financing? IIRC it's been quite a while since the last one so I'm ready to throw some more money at IWM. ;)
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I would love the Raider too :)
I would love a Raider, three. >:D
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Any hint about new fan financing? IIRC it's been quite a while since the last one so I'm ready to throw some more money at IWM. ;)
Really?
Swordsman - May 22nd, 2018 - https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=61630.0 (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=61630.0)
Bellerephon - April 25, 2018- https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=61258.0 (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=61258.0)
Von Rohrs - April 15, 2018 - https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=61119.0 (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=61119.0)
Black Wold battle armour - April 25, 2018 - https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=61259.0 (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=61259.0)
Note some of those have 2017 in the title, but the posting dates are 2018, they were just selected in 2017.
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I am looking for the Con announcements . . .
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Really?
Swordsman - May 22nd, 2018 - https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=61630.0 (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=61630.0)
Bellerephon - April 25, 2018- https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=61258.0 (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=61258.0)
Von Rohrs - April 15, 2018 - https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=61119.0 (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=61119.0)
Black Wold battle armour - April 25, 2018 - https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=61259.0 (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=61259.0)
Note some of those have 2017 in the title, but the posting dates are 2018, they were just selected in 2017.
Wow, I haven been around as much as I used to and I evidently missed all four of those. The 2017 in the titles did leave me to believe their had not been any new ones this year. :(
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I am looking for the Con announcements . . .
Soon...... :thumbsup:
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Sooner then soon?
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Later than soon but almost now.
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Speaking of soon, when will that anzu goodness go to distributors
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I wouldn't mind seeing a Merlin resculpt some day... it's supposed to be a fairly common heavy mech and a favorite among Mercs, I would like to see a better looking version eventually, then I can field them without feeling bad about the ugly minis on the table... 😂
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There's a number of mechs from that era that could use a resculpt.
The Gunslinger, Lineholder, Penetrator, Kingfisher, Phantom... heck, pretty much everything from 3055 and 3058 that hasn't already gotten a resculpt.
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There's a number of mechs from that era that could use a resculpt.
The Gunslinger, Lineholder, Penetrator, Kingfisher, Phantom... heck, pretty much everything from 3055 and 3058 that hasn't already gotten a resculpt.
I 100% agree with you and Major Headcase.
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There's a number of mechs from that era that could use a resculpt.
The Gunslinger, Lineholder, Penetrator, Kingfisher, Phantom... heck, pretty much everything from 3055 and 3058 that hasn't already gotten a resculpt.
I am jonsing for a phantom and linebacker that is semi compatable with the 3050 omni parts.
Not so much the pouncer cause i prefer the cougar, but i also won’t say no
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Lineholder? The mech is fine . . . ?
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I think it could use a larger, better detailed, and more poseable sculpt.
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eh, I really wonder how many people have one however . . . I have one b/c it was one of the in stock minis the store had when I started buying them and I recognized it from TRO3058.
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A linebacker using 3055U art could convince me to actually buy one.
It was just too ugly before (including horrible proportions).
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Yeah, the current Linebacker mini looks like it's been chibified.
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It DOES look a bit more like a Dropship with arms considering its overall shape . . . but I am not sure its really that far off from the art.
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At the very least, a buddy of mine keeps asking when things open up again so he can solo-fund a resculpt Hollander. And before you ask, proxying and good enough are never things with him, so the Hollander III is not a solution.
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There's a number of mechs from that era that could use a resculpt.
The Gunslinger, Lineholder, Penetrator, Kingfisher, Phantom... heck, pretty much everything from 3055 and 3058 that hasn't already gotten a resculpt.
A Gunslinger resculpt could convince me to throw money at a fan funding. Especially since it would go well in a C3 Command Lance I'm pondering for the RotS...
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I put Nova Cat legs on the body of a linebacker. Looks so much better!
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I am jonsing for a phantom and linebacker that is semi compatable with the 3050 omni parts.
Not so much the pouncer cause i prefer the cougar, but i also won’t say no
I 2nd the kingfisher!
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At the very least, a buddy of mine keeps asking when things open up again so he can solo-fund a resculpt Hollander. And before you ask, proxying and good enough are never things with him, so the Hollander III is not a solution.
What's the problem with the Hollander? OK, I often do use a smaller gun, but ...
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What's the problem with the Hollander? OK, I often do use a smaller gun, but ...
If you want to use a smaller gun, then the problem is you, not the Hollander.
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I'd like it if the Hollander mini was a bit smaller. It always felt oversized to me.
EDIT: Though now that I think about it, that might actually be the Caeser's fault. Ever since I read that the two mechs use the same model gauss gun, I've felt like that the hollander was just too big.
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Yeah, size was his issue. This is also the guy that kitbashed a Dart into a Scarabus because that was too big, and created a 50-ton mech that he would use if gee ever wanted to use a normal Scarabus in a game(this was before any balancing system), because there was no way he'd allow a mini that big to represent a light mech.
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Yeah, relative scale has been an IWM issue since ever. Stalker anyone? I'm always feeling I should use it as the 75 ton Stalker version instead of the assault. 🤣 the newer sculpts look amazing, especially the primitives! But even those have scaling issues. I LOVE LOVE LOVE the Primitave Thunderbolt, but that beast could wrestle a Battlemaster and make it cry!! 😂
Easy solution is to just resign ALL of them to more modern style and stricter standards, but that's WAY too expensive! Unless one of us is a closet Billionaire who can send CGL a check for 10 million dollars???
Anyone?...
...
😁
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Just got the new 3 in...and I've got to say...the Anzu & Mongoose Gunslinger look great! No time to assemble though
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Of COURSE they hit the shelves the week I can't go to the store... :bang:
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You and me both.
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pretty sure the distributors who ship product to my FLGS are sloths like that one playing pictionary in the geico commercial. i may see my preorder by july 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl3l6Bq6bMo
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I will probably pick up mine Wednesday (when the order is in), and put it together while playing HBS that night. Now to convince the TT group to play a 3145 match in July . . . our Con is coming up so I have a weekend of BT on the way and then we take a bit of a break.
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got my q2 preorder today. while i enjoy the occasional challenging build, i like that there's been a move back toward more basic assemblies. the dasher ii and gunslinger mongoose both have one-piece lower bodies and have 5 and 4 pieces respectively. the pleasant surprise (at least for me) was that the anzu came with the variant parts for the -J70. decisions, decisions... i'll probably just end up buying a second one...
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I know there isn't much love for it, but I would adore a new Sentinel sculpt. The current one looks a bit too bulbous and goofy. It's my favorite bad mech. ;D
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Yes, but all the art of the Sentinel depicts it as being bulbous and goofy, so it's at least accurate.
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Most of them don't have as much of a gut as the mini (the exception being the original 3050 tro IIRC). My friend always laughs when I use that mech.
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Most of them don't have as much of a gut as the mini (the exception being the original 3050 tro IIRC). My friend always laughs when I use that mech.
I don't have it handy right now...but if I recall, the OP Klondike Sentinal will make your friends cry.
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I know this may be a bit premature, but given stunning developments in the legal case (full details in its thread, but tl;dr -- Harmony Gold has agreed, pending the Judge's sign-off, to drop the case against PGI and IMR with prejudice), are any plans in motion to return the Wasp to production at IWM?
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I know this may be a bit premature, but given stunning developments in the legal case (full details in its thread, but tl;dr -- Harmony Gold has agreed, pending the Judge's sign-off, to drop the case against PGI and IMR with prejudice), are any plans in motion to return the Wasp to production at IWM?
YES THIS! ;)
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Wasp? Heck with that I want the Marauder 3R they put the brakes on to return.
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Just got the new 3 in...and I've got to say...the Anzu & Mongoose Gunslinger look great! No time to assemble though
I actually just ordered an Anzu (with lancemates) for a "Marik Heavy Lance" yesterday. Really looking forward to putting them together.
The Gunslinger will be in my next purchase, I'm sure.
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Wasp? Heck with that I want the Marauder 3R they put the brakes on to return.
Oh come on, you know the answer to this conundrum... ;)
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I actually just ordered an Anzu (with lancemates) for a "Marik Heavy Lance" yesterday. Really looking forward to putting them together.
The Gunslinger will be in my next purchase, I'm sure.
Was that you! Awesome...soon as I saw it I was thinking MARIK FAN! LOL
Thanks for checking things out...I think you'll be impressed with the minis!
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I know this may be a bit premature, but given stunning developments in the legal case (full details in its thread, but tl;dr -- Harmony Gold has agreed, pending the Judge's sign-off, to drop the case against PGI and IMR with prejudice), are any plans in motion to return the Wasp to production at IWM?
Sorry for the double post...but...
Sadly...at this time, the powers that be will be taking a no comment stance.
Things may look settled, but there is a LOT of legalities still to undergo.
Until Catalyst, InMediaRes, TOPPS, and the like say all clear... consider this matter NOT settled.
I've already reached out to a couple people involved in the aspects of the case...and they cannot comment on it or what the future will hold...AT THIS TIME.
I can say within all certainty...an official announcement SHOULD be forthcoming when the ending legalities are resolved, everything is signed off on, and filed
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I know this may be a bit premature, but given stunning developments in the legal case (full details in its thread, but tl;dr -- Harmony Gold has agreed, pending the Judge's sign-off, to drop the case against PGI and IMR with prejudice), are any plans in motion to return the Wasp to production at IWM?
Nope, not until an official okay is given and no idea when that will be.
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Speck when is the 1st and 2nd quarter release going up on the website?
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Got my Dasher II 3 almost put together. I think I shall call it Clamps.
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Got my Dasher II 3 almost put together. I think I shall call it Clamps.
Hahaha...this was the first image I thought of when I opened them & entered them into inventory...
(https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/clamps_futurama.gif)
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Speck when is the 1st and 2nd quarter release going up on the website?
1st will finally be this weekend and second later in July since it just released. Will be assembling 2nd quarter stuff this weekend so I can get images up.
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1st will finally be this weekend and second later in July since it just released. Will be assembling 2nd quarter stuff this weekend so I can get images up.
Good to hear Speck! That Mongoose Gunslinger and Anzu are beautiful sculpts.
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Was that you! Awesome...soon as I saw it I was thinking MARIK FAN! LOL
Thanks for checking things out...I think you'll be impressed with the minis!
Guilty. I saw the Anzu and thought "oh, well, whilst I'm here..." I'll be back to add some friends shortly (thinking either 1st Covenant Guard or Iron Guard to complement my Marik Militia) once my paint backlog is firmly under 100 again. Maybe if someone didn't ship so quickly ;)
Now, if we can just get the Neanderthal, my inner Eagle is going to be thrilled.
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LOL sorry...I'd slow down the shipping but then others would complain too! ;D
I'm quite sure you'll like the minis...they really do look great, and yep...I agree on the Neanderthal. It will be out someday...just need to be patient.
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Given the news today, can we expect the NuSeen Wasp and valkyrie back in distribution in 2018???
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Given the news today, can we expect the NuSeen Wasp and valkyrie back in distribution in 2018???
Nope, not until an official okay is given and no idea when that will be.
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Took the words out of my mouth. Lol
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Took the words out of my mouth. Lol
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Do’h!
I didn’t read before i posted. My bad, guys!
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Do’h!
I didn’t read before i posted. My bad, guys!
JP...no problem, happens to me a lot on Facebook. Besides, everyone is overly excited about the possibility of certain things being released, or put back into production.
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JP...no problem, happens to me a lot on Facebook. Besides, everyone is overly excited about the possibility of certain things being released, or put back into production.
Overly excited? Not at all... just because I know I'm going to want more Wasps than the two I have for my 2nd Nightstalkers... (I mean, I want some for other units... the 2NS is set in stone...)
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Overly excited? Not at all... just because I know I'm going to want more Wasps than the two I have for my 2nd Nightstalkers... (I mean, I want some for other units... the 2NS is set in stone...)
:thumbsup:
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Speck when is the 1st and 2nd quarter release going up on the website?
I have uploaded the 1st quarter for sale and have the 2nd quarter up as coming soon in the New Releases category (http://ironwindmetals.com/store/index.php?cPath=16_234). 2nd quarters will go live on IWM webstore in a few weeks.
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Woo! Hawkwolf!
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Definitely will need a mongoose. I just built and used one of the 8s uziel resculpt at a con this weekend. I am really please with how that mini turned out.
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Yeah it did come out great, so did the Cougar resculpt.
Just a hint for coming Gencon Con Special announcement, think Wolf Empire for Mech pack (only 4 mechs not 5 like a star sorry).
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I have the Cougar resculpt to build as well. I may do that this week.
Thanks for the hint.
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Just a hint for coming Gencon Con Special announcement, think Wolf Empire for Mech pack (only 4 mechs not 5 like a star sorry).
Well...I'll preface this with I HAVE NO INSIDE INFO ON THIS...this is just my speculation (sadly)...
Ryoken Skinwalker!!! And maybe variants of other already released mechs.
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Hawkwolf is really nice. Just waiting for my Mongoose and Anzu.
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Woo! Hawkwolf!
Hawkwolf was last quarter? Granted I need to build mine . . . but now that Anzu is in my hands . . .
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Someone needs to help me on what arms would be good to convert the Dasher II into a 2 Model. My first instinct is sceptiscemia E arms with a triple barreled gun pinned to the cowling. Let me know!
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I'm pretty surprised that we got a variant sculpt of a mech before getting the default version.
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With all due respect to the stock Dasher II, it sucks and doesn’t need a mini
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The Dasher II and Dasher II 2 are basically identical in outward appearance.
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I definitely want an Anzu and a Xanthos. The Mongoose also tempts me.
I also feel like Speck has been stepping up his photography game lately. :thumbsup:
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I definitely want an Anzu and a Xanthos. The Mongoose also tempts me.
I also feel like Speck has been stepping up his photography game lately. :thumbsup:
My dad the other year surprised me with a nice DSLR digital camera for Christmas and then earlier this year I got a cheaper macro lens. Still working on getting things right.
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My dad the other year surprised me with a nice DSLR digital camera for Christmas and then earlier this year I got a cheaper macro lens. Still working on getting things right.
It's much appreciated from my end.
Some of the older IWM product images are.... less than fully helpful.
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It's much appreciated from my end.
Some of the older IWM product images are.... less than fully helpful.
Most of these get replaced when CSO paints it (for battlemech). The other non-BT there a many that I would love to have new images for.
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Con Specials 2018 (http://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/10-factory-news/81-iron-wind-metals-at-gencon-2018)
More to come
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I KNEW IT!
Although I wasn't expecting a jumping Shadow Hawk!
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Not just a jumping Shadow Hawk, a jumping Royal Shadow Hawk.
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Speck, please say that Shadow Hawk will make its way to the online store. :D
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Speck, please say that Shadow Hawk will make its way to the online store. :D
While I'm not Speck...
Of course it will!
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This news makes me unreasonably happy. Is the Tomahawk in any particular configuration?
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This news makes me unreasonably happy. Is the Tomahawk in any particular configuration?
Because it's not noted as such, and as in keeping with previous Con release packs, it will most likely be the "currently available" Prime sculpt...but will wait for Speck to give the official word.
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It says "Tomahawk II Prime" on the list.
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:beer:
It says "Tomahawk II Prime" on the list.
Good point...didn't even realize that, I was too busy trying to figure out where to stick that Shadow Hawk in my forces since every house except Liao has one, and I'm not giving it to them. Guess she's going to go to Amaris!
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Speck, please say that Shadow Hawk will make its way to the online store. :D
Yes, it will.
This news makes me unreasonably happy. Is the Tomahawk in any particular configuration?
Prime
Not just a jumping Shadow Hawk, a jumping Royal Shadow Hawk.
:thumbsup:
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Really looking forward to the skinwalker. And the royal shadowhawk may be my first jumping mech.
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Really looking forward to the skinwalker. And the royal shadowhawk may be my first jumping mech.
It looks good, just a few changes from the 2H.
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It looks good, just a few changes from the 2H.
I'm also on the list of people very excited for this one. What kind of changes are we talking?
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Well, it's like a 2H but it doesn't suck. ;)
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Will there be a non-jumper version following it soon? after?
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Will there be a non-jumper version following it soon? after?
If there isn't, you typically don't need to mount the jump jet plumes...so then it becomes a walking version.
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The plumes were attached to the enforcer iii’s feet
It wasn’t that hard to cut them off and the evidence is barely evident because the scars are near the hex base
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The plumes were attached to the enforcer iii’s feet
It wasn’t that hard to cut them off and the evidence is barely evident because the scars are near the hex base
Could have sworn those weren't attached...but I'd have to check my blister.
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I certainly did not attach them to turn around and cut them off ;D
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Why is the Savage Wolf not in the Wolf Empire pack?
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Because it's a Sea Fox mech.
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I'm also on the list of people very excited for this one. What kind of changes are we talking?
Larger AC, medium laser on other arm, and torso missile launcher changes to two holes for streak srm2. Plus the jumping part and some adjustments to pose.
Will there be a non-jumper version following it soon? after?
That is the plan.
The plumes were attached to the enforcer iii’s feet
It wasn’t that hard to cut them off and the evidence is barely evident because the scars are near the hex base
Yes they were attached on that LE.
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Speck, are the Wasp and Valkyrie going back up on the web store? Thanks!
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Speck, are the Wasp and Valkyrie going back up on the web store? Thanks!
Alex...that was already answered earlier...
Nope, not until an official okay is given and no idea when that will be.
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Why is the Savage Wolf not in the Wolf Empire pack?
What he said - Because it's a Sea Fox mech.
Plus we wanted to go with more pure Wolf Empire mechs that are unique to them.
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Since I won't be going to GenCon and I don't know anyone who's going, will the new minis in the Wolf Empire 'Mech Pack be available after GenCon?
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Since I won't be going to GenCon and I don't know anyone who's going, will the new minis in the Wolf Empire 'Mech Pack be available after GenCon?
Yes, some a few weeks after gencon and others a few months later depending on if something is a early release at Gencon.
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Larger AC, medium laser on other arm, and torso missile launcher changes to two holes for streak srm2. Plus the jumping part and some adjustments to pose.
:drool:
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Really looking forward to the skinwalker. And the royal shadowhawk may be my first jumping mech.
I've had the Skinwalker on a TO&E awaiting a miniature for what seems like forever. This has seriously made my day.
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What he said -
Plus we wanted to go with more pure Wolf Empire mechs that are unique to them.
I would have not cried for either a Pocket Assault Tundra Wolf or a Tundra Wolf 4
Will the skinwalker be available individually as well or will I have to buy multiple packs?
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I would have not cried for either a Pocket Assault Tundra Wolf or a Tundra Wolf 4
Will the skinwalker be available individually as well or will I have to buy multiple packs?
JP...this was answered earlier...
Since I won't be going to GenCon and I don't know anyone who's going, will the new minis in the Wolf Empire 'Mech Pack be available after GenCon?
Yes, some a few weeks after gencon and others a few months later depending on if something is a early release at Gencon.
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JP...this was answered earlier...
I interpreted that as the pack would be avaliable, but no affirmative or Decline about individually.
I am still waiting to buy individual Exhumers and Cadavers
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I interpreted that as the pack would be avaliable, but no affirmative or Decline about individually.
I am still waiting to buy individual Exhumers and Cadavers
understood...but yeah, typically these kinds of lance packs end up being available individually. Like the FedSuns one from last year, and the Kurita one from the year before that.
I'll shoot you a PM on the others.
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So, I got my Anzu mini and I am trying to prep it for Thursday's game- may not be painted unfortunately- but . . . I have a UAC/10 gun, a RAC/5 gun, the ERML/LPPC . . . but what do you do for the Snub PPC for the 70 to go with the RAC? I am thinking of magnetizing to switch between models.
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So, I got my Anzu mini and I am trying to prep it for Thursday's game- may not be painted unfortunately- but . . . I have a UAC/10 gun, a RAC/5 gun, the ERML/LPPC . . . but what do you do for the Snub PPC for the 70 to go with the RAC? I am thinking of magnetizing to switch between models.
Right arm is the same for both variants.
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I interpreted that as the pack would be avaliable, but no affirmative or Decline about individually.
I am still waiting to buy individual Exhumers and Cadavers
As a pack is only sold at gencon. The mechs will be sold separately after the show. Undead Lance pack was different.
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So, I got my Anzu mini and I am trying to prep it for Thursday's game- may not be painted unfortunately- but . . . I have a UAC/10 gun, a RAC/5 gun, the ERML/LPPC . . . but what do you do for the Snub PPC for the 70 to go with the RAC? I am thinking of magnetizing to switch between models.
What are you going to do about the missile pod? You've got to put either the ten tube or seven tube cover on it.
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I was already looking at taking a cut down MWDA missile pod for the LRMs. Ok, for the Snub . . . I had misunderstood the Sarna entry when I was refreshing my memory- that helps to cut down on my magnet needs!
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So, I got my Anzu...
How do you like it?
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I just got it Sunday, and soaked the bits to get stuff off. Overall impression without it being assembled? Pretty good . . . the posts look deep/thick enough to be easy to set, I was surprised the legs were post instead of balls. Tonight I will be assembling all the pieces that will not be magnetized.
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How do you like it?
I love the sculpt and detail on both of mine. I think my only actual criticism is that the elbow sockets are identical even though the left and right arm weapons have different depth on the attachment point. I had to clip the nub on the left arm pod to get it to fit flush like it looks like it's supposed to be able to.
Making a walking pose is going to be a little more challenging, but it doesn't seem impossible.
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I love the sculpt and detail on both of mine. I think my only actual criticism is that the elbow sockets are identical even though the left and right arm weapons have different depth on the attachment point. I had to clip the nub on the left arm pod to get it to fit flush like it looks like it's supposed to be able to.
That's only true for the Ultra 10 left arm. The RAC left arm fits fully.
I also noticed that the post holes on the tors for the arm attachments aren't nearly deep enough.
But once I got the minis assembled they look real good.
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That's only true for the Ultra 10 left arm. The RAC left arm fits fully.
I also noticed that the post holes on the tors for the arm attachments aren't nearly deep enough.
But once I got the minis assembled they look real good.
I ran into the same thing with the arms to torso, but it was a fairly small thing considering how nice the rest of the Anzu went together for me. Can't wait to get some paint on it this week, if the weather holds out and I can actually prime minis up.
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Thanks for the reviews, guys. Been chomping at the bit for months to see how it turned out.
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As a pack is only sold at gencon. The mechs will be sold separately after the show. Undead Lance pack was different.
Is the Tomahawk II changed at all from the standard mini? Is there any chance the cracks have been smoothed out on this model?
Thanks!
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Is the Tomahawk II changed at all from the standard mini? Is there any chance the cracks have been smoothed out on this model?
Thanks!
We have reprinted some parts that are currently waiting to be molded.
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I sculpted the Anzu so I’m very happy to hear it’s being received well. The shoulder receptacles in mine were a bit clogged too and I needed to drill them out a bit with a pin vise. They weren't sculpted that way so it looks like the mold may have torn a bit inside leaving a clog. I do try to prevent that by tapering the posts and post holes but if it goes too deep it runs that clogging risk.
Thanks for the feedback!
Dak
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Yeah, my arms have posts that are too long so I am drilling a bit . . . the legs are great, I think it looks like it would be easy to cut one at the knee to angle it for a walk but I am not going to try. I can get a bit of a step out of the actual bend they have . . . I think the legs MIGHT be a bit to long since it comes out a bit chunkier than my old Orion and is just as tall, but the minis have never been exactly scaled (its bigger than my Dire Wolf! . . . then again, most things are- including the Wulfen!) so no big worries. I think it will look great on the table, and I am taking it in metal tomorrow night to see about pounding anyone else who gets near the flag.
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Now that we have an official response to the Nu-classics when should we expect an update from IWMs?
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When you get one.
To clarify: no one in either side of the fence wants to drag their heels over this. You'll get word on what's going to happen as soon as Speck can give it to you. Clamoring for it a thread collective average of every other day will not get it here faster.
Have patience.
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Put it another way... we have waited 20 years for this... what is a little more time???
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https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=61621.msg1425324#msg1425324
“We’ll get to it when we get to it”
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See, I always thought the arms from the MAD released at Cons last year was for a -3R arm rather than what it was released as - the -7D/9D had tri-vanes rather than blocks. I know I am planning on getting that part sent to me for something else.
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I think Speck will be sneaky on this one. Will he surprise us at GenCon with a handful of Wasp and Valkyrie minis??? That would be the best message for us ;)
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That's exactly how bad rumors start. Can we not?
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That's exactly how bad rumors start. Can we not?
Hey Scotty relax, some of us have been dealing with this issue almost as long as you have been alive, rumors good or bad generate buzz and buzz generates interest. If you don’t believe me look at another “game” that is produced “across the pond”. It has rumors both good and bad, and they made close to 150 million in the last half of 2017. Some of us remember the days when that game and battletech used to be neck and neck with popularity and maybe it can be again but only time will tell. So allow us our victory lap thanks!
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I think Speck will be sneaky on this one. Will he surprise us at GenCon with a handful of Wasp and Valkyrie minis??? That would be the best message for us ;)
As of now I have nothing new to report.
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As of now I have nothing new to report.
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Everyone...I know your all excited, as am I. This is the time of the year I literally go broke because I buy WAY too much for myself and my online store.
If we could all just relax a bit (myself included) that would be awesome. Some of the rumors are getting hard to quell, and I'm sure that Speck is being PM'd a lot with questions he cannot answer. I've even gotten a lot...and I just sell for them...I'm not them! LOL. The rumors are becoming unsubstantiated facts sadly... especially on Facebook.
Let's all use keywords like "I hope" and such...until TPTB, Catalyst, and the fine folks at IWM make an official announcement.
Trust me when I say THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO BE A BATTLETECH FAN! Not just because of the end of the suit. Many things this year are happening and have happened!
It's just bad timing that the suit ended when it did because it's SO close to the largest convention for Battletech.
IF...and I do mean IF... Catalyst and IWM have the all clear to proceed with new Classic Sculpts...you can bet your house, car, first born, etc. they are scrambling to get them done for the show.
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Well, I'll be sitting here with my wallet open patiently waiting for the classics - particularly the Marauder.
But, ya, I imagine people will get to them as soon as they reasonably can. No reason to suspect otherwise at this point and no reason to badger.
- Shane
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My wallet is also ready for deployment at CGL/IWM's pleasure.
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Well, I'll be sitting here with my wallet open patiently waiting for the classics - particularly the Marauder.
But, ya, I imagine people will get to them as soon as they reasonably can. No reason to suspect otherwise at this point and no reason to badger.
- Shane
The answer is out there...
But for a quicker answer. You won't see it this year, at least in plastic. Probably not in metal either but it will show up eventually according to a dev.
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Con Specials 2018 (http://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/10-factory-news/81-iron-wind-metals-at-gencon-2018)
More to come
I added a few other mechs that will be for sale. So you do not ask, no classic still to early to know when Wasp and Valkyrie will be available.
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I added a few other mechs that will be for sale. So you do not ask, no classic still to early to know when Wasp and Valkyrie will be available.
Speck...even at my cost, you guys are seriously trying to make me go broke! LOL loving this line up this year!
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This is all looking great.
All I have to do now, is find somebody whom I can bribe, blackmail, or bamboozle into doing some proxy shopping for me. >:D
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Interesting choice with the Ryoken III B for the standalone release. What made you decide on that one? Sculptor’s whim?
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Interesting choice with the Ryoken III B for the standalone release. What made you decide on that one? Sculptor’s whim?
I'd guess either being a familiar variant like the Ryoken "Stormcrow" B...or sculptors choice/recommendation.
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Interesting choice with the Ryoken III B for the standalone release. What made you decide on that one? Sculptor’s whim?
Just picked it that’s all. After gencon both B and Prime will be blister pack releases. The Prime being a distro release either 4th quarter or 1st quarter 2019 still figuring it out. So the Web only B will be available same time the Prime comes out.
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I added a few other mechs that will be for sale. So you do not ask, no classic still to early to know when Wasp and Valkyrie will be available.
In fairness, the fact that the word "when" not "if" was used is heartening. And with that...
About the Royal Shad -- I can't wait to see pics of it!
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In fairness, the fact that the word "when" not "if" was used is heartening. And with that...
About the Royal Shad -- I can't wait to see pics of it!
Yo I missed that phrasing. Good catch. Hopefully the when isn’t 2035 :D
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The sooner IWM can get the Wasp back into production the better. I hope Speck can give us a better time frame after con season :)
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Request: Crusader that looks like it has ~15 LRMs in the arms and 2, 3 or 6 SRM tubes in each hip.
We've got a bunch of minis that represent most of the rest of the unseen, but only the sad phoenix Crusader.
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Request: Crusader that looks like it has ~15 LRMs in the arms and 2, 3 or 6 SRM tubes in each hip.
We've got a bunch of minis that represent most of the rest of the unseen, but only the sad phoenix Crusader.
Oh man, i'd love to see Shimmy redesign the Crusader for the Classics!
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Is the Catapult II going to be at the show? I know I submitted the files a while ago...
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Oh man, i'd love to see Shimmy redesign the Crusader for the Classics!
Amen. The original Crusader mini from back in the day was very Blah.
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Probably a long way off from a classic crud. The 3085 Phoenix II version is coming later this year and I’ve been looking forward to that since I first saw the art
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Probably a long way off from a classic crud. The 3085 Phoenix II version is coming later this year and I’ve been looking forward to that since I first saw the art
Where did you hear that?
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Where did you hear that?
It's listed as an upcoming Online Exclusive
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I recently kitbashed one that has the shoulder covers and hip launchers using the PP version as the base. I've set it up as the 5S.
Request: Crusader that looks like it has ~15 LRMs in the arms and 2, 3 or 6 SRM tubes in each hip.
We've got a bunch of minis that represent most of the rest of the unseen, but only the sad phoenix Crusader.
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It's listed as an upcoming Online Exclusive
Are you sure you don't mean this Phoenix:
(http://cfw.sarna.net/wiki/images/thumb/a/ac/Phoenix.jpg/191px-43ve4lrc1ng393kudugmz44sv3w273g.jpg?timestamp=20090326235333)
Trust me, no new Classics are going to be on any "coming soon" list right now. Wait. It'll happen in it's own time.
Yes, I want them too, as much as anyone. But patience is a virtue.
W.
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Are you sure you don't mean this Phoenix:
(http://cfw.sarna.net/wiki/images/thumb/a/ac/Phoenix.jpg/191px-43ve4lrc1ng393kudugmz44sv3w273g.jpg?timestamp=20090326235333)
Trust me, no new Classics are going to be on any "coming soon" list right now. Wait. It'll happen in it's own time.
Yes, I want them too, as much as anyone. But patience is a virtue.
W.
Not talking about classics, the Crusader 8L from TRO 3085 was Fan financed.
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It's listed as an upcoming Online Exclusive
Oh, for some reason I thought we were talking about a 3085 Phoenix Hawk mini, not a Crusader. :facepalm:
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Not talking about classics, the Crusader 8L from TRO 3085 was Fan financed.
I enjoy the Project Phoenix Crusaders. Looking forward to it.
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Oh, for some reason I thought we were talking about a 3085 Phoenix Hawk mini, not a Crusader. :facepalm:
This is what happens when I get lazy and don’t quote the previous post for context
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Was the Phoenix Hawk IIC redesigned or variant was suppose to have come out? I remember jabber about it but i am not sure if it happened.
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http://ironwindmetals.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=9808
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Was the Phoenix Hawk IIC redesigned or variant was suppose to have come out? I remember jabber about it but i am not sure if it happened.
Yes, a 7 variant was released a while back, and is available for purchase. Well done sculpt...but I haven't seen one painted up CSO style yet.
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Everyone...I know your all excited, as am I. This is the time of the year I literally go broke because I buy WAY too much for myself and my online store.
If we could all just relax a bit (myself included) that would be awesome. Some of the rumors are getting hard to quell, and I'm sure that Speck is being PM'd a lot with questions he cannot answer. I've even gotten a lot...and I just sell for them...I'm not them! LOL. The rumors are becoming unsubstantiated facts sadly... especially on Facebook.
Let's all use keywords like "I hope" and such...until TPTB, Catalyst, and the fine folks at IWM make an official announcement.
Trust me when I say THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO BE A BATTLETECH FAN! Not just because of the end of the suit. Many things this year are happening and have happened!
It's just bad timing that the suit ended when it did because it's SO close to the largest convention for Battletech.
IF...and I do mean IF... Catalyst and IWM have the all clear to proceed with new Classic Sculpts...you can bet your house, car, first born, etc. they are scrambling to get them done for the show.
Awesome! But I also just want that Anzu...
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Awesome! But I also just want that Anzu...
LOL yeah, I'm trying...sold out super fast. It's Con Season and things slow down a lot, so I'm just waiting for IWM to send me my restock order I placed.
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I put one of the new Phoenix Hawk IIC 7's together last weekend. Pinned the crap out of the hips because that boy has some serious weight hanging off the upper body. Those arms are chunky, and it has pretty much all of the jumpjets. Sucker is top-heavy! Not knocking the sculpt, it is very pretty, but some mechs have issues when you have to make their shapes in the real world.
Didn't get the Anzu put together yet, although I did pull it out of the blister and start prepping it. I won the mold-line lottery with the one I got; It's super-clean. I'm leaning towards the RAC variant.
Another one I got assembled was the Dasher II 3. I have to say, the hands are not what I was expecting. They remind me of the 'give 'em the clamps' robot from Futurama. The rest of the mech is exactly what you would expect in a bigger Dasher and should be a great base for modding into the other variants...just need to find some hands to replace the clamps/claws.
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The PP Crusader has orderable fists in the scrapyard that should fit the mini.
I put one of the new Phoenix Hawk IIC 7's together last weekend. Pinned the crap out of the hips because that boy has some serious weight hanging off the upper body. Those arms are chunky, and it has pretty much all of the jumpjets. Sucker is top-heavy! Not knocking the sculpt, it is very pretty, but some mechs have issues when you have to make their shapes in the real world.
Didn't get the Anzu put together yet, although I did pull it out of the blister and start prepping it. I won the mold-line lottery with the one I got; It's super-clean. I'm leaning towards the RAC variant.
Another one I got assembled was the Dasher II 3. I have to say, the hands are not what I was expecting. They remind me of the 'give 'em the clamps' robot from Futurama. The rest of the mech is exactly what you would expect in a bigger Dasher and should be a great base for modding into the other variants...just need to find some hands to replace the clamps/claws.
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The PP Crusader has orderable fists in the scrapyard that should fit the mini.
*mwuah* thank you!
Now i just need to triple lasers to go with em
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Septicemia / Pariah A scrapyard parts also!
*mwuah* thank you!
Now i just need to triple lasers to go with em
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considered that, was hoping for something more compact
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*mwuah* thank you!
Now i just need to triple lasers to go with em
JP...what about the OP-039 Dragonfly Lasers?
https://www.ariesgamesandminis.com/index.php/shopping/product/1883-dragonfly-a-lasers-4.html
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*mwuah* thank you!
Now i just need to triple lasers to go with em
How about Locust IIC arms?
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In other news, will the crusader 8L and Raven II make Gencon?
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In other news, will the crusader 8L and Raven II make Gencon?
Raven II no
Crusader - I am hoping.
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Yeah, Raven II hit a bit of a real life snag in that I am moving. I hope to have it done soon!
In the mean time, enjoy these awesome Orthos by IAMCLANWOLF:
(https://i.imgur.com/FMyIljK.jpg)
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oooh, can't wait to see that Shadow Hawk b!
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Yeah, Raven II hit a bit of a real life snag in that I am moving. I hope to have it done soon!
In the mean time, enjoy these awesome Orthos by IAMCLANWOLF:
(https://i.imgur.com/FMyIljK.jpg)
Angry-Raven
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hmm, is that as chunky as the TRO3145-CC cover art?
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it's much closer to the interior line art. the cover art is thicc
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Also looks close to the XTRO art that was the basis of the Raven II.
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And I just realized the Raven II was Q4 instead of Q3
Excuse me for being a dork
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Like the ortho.
Will we have the option to make the Raven X from XTRO: CC? the only difference is a couple of winglets on the nose and an AMS on the torso beside the med lasers. I know I would like to have the option. :thumbsup:
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Like the ortho.
Will we have the option to make the Raven X from XTRO: CC? the only difference is a couple of winglets on the nose and an AMS on the torso beside the med lasers. I know I would like to have the option. :thumbsup:
Hmmm... I don't think that'll be a problem. I will do my best to make it happen!
I'd I can do it without needing a new torso, it will happen. Otherwise, it may be up to IWM if they are willing to make two torsos.
Bits are always easier to get included over new torsos.
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Yes please!
Hmmm... I don't think that'll be a problem. I will do my best to make it happen!
I'd I can do it without needing a new torso, it will happen. Otherwise, it may be up to IWM if they are willing to make two torsos.
Bits are always easier to get included over new torsos.
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Looking at both pics on sarna.net, it's exactly the same thing except for those additional bits. The difficulty should only be locations holes/pins for those bits to be filled it not needed. :thumbsup: ^-^
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Yeah, Raven II hit a bit of a real life snag in that I am moving. I hope to have it done soon!
In the mean time, enjoy these awesome Orthos by IAMCLANWOLF:
(https://i.imgur.com/FMyIljK.jpg)
Stinger, any thoughts on what kind of hip joints you will create in the final sculpt? The ortho's look great, but this thing is begging for a dynamic leg posture, which would benefit from ball-and socket style connections, but I understand that may not be the easiest, or most popular choice.
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I am likely going to be doing my new favorite joint, the hybrid ball/cylinder joint.
The concept is that you have a ball joint with a very small cylinder sticking out of the center of it. The leg joint will be a mirror of that. Novice builders have a simple and straightforward way to to attach the legs. Expert builders can file off the cylinder, leaving only the ball point for maximum poseability.
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I am likely going to be doing my new favorite joint, the hybrid ball/cylinder joint.
The concept is that you have a ball joint with a very small cylinder sticking out of the center of it. The leg joint will be a mirror of that. Novice builders have a simple and straightforward way to to attach the legs. Expert builders can file off the cylinder, leaving only the ball point for maximum poseability.
:thumbsup:
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I am likely going to be doing my new favorite joint, the hybrid ball/cylinder joint.
The concept is that you have a ball joint with a very small cylinder sticking out of the center of it. The leg joint will be a mirror of that. Novice builders have a simple and straightforward way to to attach the legs. Expert builders can file off the cylinder, leaving only the ball point for maximum poseability.
:thumbsup: Me too.
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Do we have an ortho of the new crusader 8L anywhere ?
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I am likely going to be doing my new favorite joint, the hybrid ball/cylinder joint.
The concept is that you have a ball joint with a very small cylinder sticking out of the center of it. The leg joint will be a mirror of that. Novice builders have a simple and straightforward way to to attach the legs. Expert builders can file off the cylinder, leaving only the ball point for maximum poseability.
You are my hero. :smitten:
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I am likely going to be doing my new favorite joint, the hybrid ball/cylinder joint.
The concept is that you have a ball joint with a very small cylinder sticking out of the center of it. The leg joint will be a mirror of that. Novice builders have a simple and straightforward way to to attach the legs. Expert builders can file off the cylinder, leaving only the ball point for maximum poseability.
That's a fantastic solution!
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I am likely going to be doing my new favorite joint, the hybrid ball/cylinder joint.
The concept is that you have a ball joint with a very small cylinder sticking out of the center of it. The leg joint will be a mirror of that. Novice builders have a simple and straightforward way to to attach the legs. Expert builders can file off the cylinder, leaving only the ball point for maximum poseability.
Stinger, you're my hero too. :thumbsup:
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Let me echo my approval of the pre-pinned ball joint. So nice not having to drill/pin tiny joints if I'm happy with the single axis of rotation for posing...which I usually am. Hopefully it doesn't get messy as the molds get older, but if it doesn't I'd say that one and the 'enormous cylinder' are my two favorite joints at the moment.
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Let me echo my approval of the pre-pinned ball joint. So nice not having to drill/pin tiny joints if I'm happy with the single axis of rotation for posing...which I usually am. Hopefully it doesn't get messy as the molds get older, but if it doesn't I'd say that one and the 'enormous cylinder' are my two favorite joints at the moment.
You raise an interesting question: I wonder if a tapered pin (i.e. truncated cone, rather than straight cylinder) would be less prone to leaks and tears in the mold, and therefore less prone to having the socket filled by "leaked" metal during casting.
Stinger, any thoughts based on your experience?
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Whether it's less prone or not, when they finally happen it's going to be much more annoying to drill out the proper shape without issues.
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Failing that, making a divit to center your drill tip in on both pieces is nice, so they line up easier.
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Yeah, the nice part about a straight-sided cylinder is that it is perfect for sticking a drill bit into if you need to clean it up. There are plenty of tiny pin drills that will fit about right into whatever size hole they use, but the hole needs to have parallel walls. The 'pin' on the ball joint can be cleaned up with files or a hobby knife, no matter what shape it ends up being. It is easier to clip off a pin than to try filing down, or cutting off flush, a cone.
Also, while I do love a faithful representation of the art, I want to thank IWM for limiting the number of small pieces, and the number of pieces in general, in many of the recent models. I started working on a Mongoose Gunslinger and a Primitive Wolverine last week. The Mongoose is together and on a base, while I'm still working on the Wolverine thanks to all its teeny, tiny bits that have to get cleaned up without ruining them, and then attached without ending up at a funny angle. I like the occasional fiddly model, but in general I'm not looking for parts I have to assemble with tweezers!
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just keep repeating to yourself
"at least its not tiburon feet. at least it's not tiburon feet"
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The Tiburon is the only mini I ever actually flat out quit on. I could not get the feet together.
Shame, too, since it's an otherwise nice mini.
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I was packing up my miniatures for sale, and the Sagittaire straight-up broke off at the ankles when I picked it up. The next one of you sculptors that gives us separate feet, let me tell you... *shakes fist*
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Sometimes that's unavoidable, or would end up with another unsatisfying compromise. Mechs like the Mad Cat require the feet to be cast flat, and the legs to be cast sideways to avoid having gaps in the mold. At the very least, they'd have to have a separate toe, which would be another tiny, fiddly bit. With the 3050 omnis and others like them, I find it easier to pin completely through the foot, allowing a longer pin to have purchase in both the leg and basing material.
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I wasn't being completely serious. ;)
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It's all good; some people are more serious than others about this sort of thing. I figured there was some level of exaggeration in there. I figured that offering an explanation and possible solution may help someone reading, if not you specifically.
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I saw this morning that the remaining minis for Q4's release schedule have been announced, a non-jumping Shadow Hawk SHD-2Hb (which will also be available at GenCon) and the Vixen 6, which is described in TRO 3150's NTNU section.
The Vixen 6 is an interesting choice. I hope we get a record sheet for it by the end of the year.
I'm still waiting for my one FLGS that carries IWM minis to let me preorder the Q3 releases.
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I saw this morning that the remaining minis for Q4's release schedule have been announced, a non-jumping Shadow Hawk SHD-2Hb (which will also be available at GenCon) and the Vixen 6, which is described in TRO 3150's NTNU section.
The Vixen 6 is an interesting choice. I hope we get a record sheet for it by the end of the year.
I'm still waiting for my one FLGS that carries IWM minis to let me preorder the Q3 releases.
I have a Vixen 6 record sheet to post to IWM downloads closer to release.
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Speck is the hero we need
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just keep repeating to yourself
"at least its not tiburon feet. at least it's not tiburon feet"
Oh god! I thought I had buried all those memories! That mini seriously needs 'beginner feet' and 'expert feet', so we consumers can decide to accept a less-optimal representation rather than descending into a pit of madness and rage trying to build those stupid ankles!
Also, to whomever did the Bruin arms: Don't ever make arms that connect like that again. I tried building them as-designed at first, but I breathed on one arm and it fell off. I'm pretty sure I ended up sticking a pin into the arm, bending it 90 degrees, and sticking the other end up into the torso, then slobbing a ton of super glue over it cover up the pin.
Anyway, back on topic: So Speck, does that Vixen 6 recordsheet have any friends? If so, how susceptible are you to bribery?
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Idle Speculation Time! We have the Q1 trio - Ryoken III Prime, Crusader 8L (3085 sculpt), Swordsman (XTRO Primitive). What other nine mechs do you want to see?
here are the options
3085
Brahma
Kuma
Parash
Ursus II
Archer 9M
BattleMaster 10S
Goliath 6H
Griffin 4R
Griffin IIC 6
Locust 5W2
Locust IIC 7
Longbow 12R
Marauder II 6D
Marauder IIC 7
Ostroc 5W
Ostscout 11J
Ostsol 9R
Phoenix Hawk 5L
Rifleman 7X
Scorpion 10M
Shadow Hawk 12C
Shadow Hawk IIC 7
Stinger 3P
Valkyrie QT2
Warhammer 11T
Wasp 8T
Wolverine 9W2
Prototypes
Apollo 4M
Arbiter
Deep Lord
Hatamoto-Kaeru
Legionnaire 2F
Orion 3-M
Pandarus 1A
Patron
Quickdraw 8P
Sarissa
Spindrift
Thunder C4
Ti Ts'ang DDC
Trebuchet K7R
Ursus 3
Wolf Trap 2B
3145/50
Celerity
Cylliaros
Mongrel
Neanderthal
Scourge
Storm Raider
Ursa
Violator
Boreas
Harpagos
Phoenix Hawk L
Raider
Scarecrow
Stalking Spider II
Viking IIC
Yinguochong
or are we getting some more surprise items like the 3145 NTNU like the Xanthos 6O or Vixen 6? Or XTRO entries?
Personally, I'd like to see the non-phoenix 3085 designs finished off this year with a secondary focus on shaving the 3145/50 list (NEANDERTHAL)
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Yinguochong and Viking IIC for me
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3085
-Valkyrie QT2
Prototypes
-Spindrift
3145-50
-Yinguochong
(please make sure head can be poseable, images from the book always odd direction, like pointing Commando or the Wyvern mini.)
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All of them.
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I could certainly use a Brahma!
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I can always use more Battlemasters.
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Parash
The only 'Mech that I want on those lists.
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I will soon have the 2nd quarter items to post. :thumbsup:
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Still hoping the Defender gets done. A new warship is always nice.
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Still hoping the Defender gets done. A new warship is always nice.
agreed 100%, we need more warships and mech scale aerofighters.
I will say yes to the brahma and scourge though.
speaking of which, i thought the scourge and ursa would be up for funding since they were 2nd/3rd in this pole: https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=63315.0
so maybe they'll just get releases this year?
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Their funding probably just hasn’t been opened yet. Sometimes there’s a gap between efforts
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I am crossing my fingers and hoping we will get to see the Wasp and Valkyrie this year. ^-^
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to be honest i left the classics off to avoid jinxing it
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While I still would love to see a Cruiser class cruiser, what I really would love to see is the BT1 Chaffee ServiceMech.
And the Erinyes ProtoMech. Because I'm insane.
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I'd love see the Defender & Cruiser get some love, but i think fan would have scrape up to get it done.
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As far as Battlemchs are concerned; the Mongrel, Ursus II and Brhama are on my list.
Vehicles i want to see the Saxon, Lamprey, and Kelswa get done.
As far as aerospace, a mech scale Měngqín and starenstur are called for.
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Here's a question???
The new sculpts from the upcoming box set, are those designs going to be available later in metal from IWM?? Not plastic lance sets or anything, but normal overpriced catalog minis??
:)
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As far as Battlemchs are concerned; the Mongrel, Ursus II and Brhama are on my list.
One of them is being done for 2nd quarter 2019.......
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Here's a question???
The new sculpts from the upcoming box set, are those designs going to be available later in metal from IWM?? Not plastic lance sets or anything, but normal overpriced catalog minis??
:)
Personally I'd be pretty ecstatic if they were released in the plastic lance pack format. I bought every one that was released, and definitely want more plastic crack to go with the metal meth I'm addicted to.
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I am not sure you would see a plastic lance pack before 2020 GenCon IF it did happen. Mostly I want my new Marauder & Warhammer, the Wolverine 3R is very workable for other purposes.
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Ive seen the following on a few sites now for coming releases in Q2. (unconfirmed)
Ursus II
Scourge
Scarecrow
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Ive seen the following on a few sites now for coming releases in Q2. (unconfirmed)
Ursus II
Scourge
Scarecrow
I'll let Speck confirm that. ;D
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yeah 3085 love :thumbsup:
I'll let Speck confirm that. ;D
and you'll get even more of my money :))
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I'd love see the Defender & Cruiser get some love, but i think fan would have scrape up to get it done.
If they were a group fan finance, I'd be all over that.
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If they were a group fan finance, I'd be all over that.
A WarShip/DropShip round would be nice.
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yeah 3085 love :thumbsup:
and you'll get even more of my money :))
LOL maybe...some sell better than others though. Sometimes I over buy with the first batch, other times...I cannot keep them on the shelf!
Either way, it's not my place to "confirm" but I can say I will be ordering all 3 when available!
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I'd love see the Defender & Cruiser get some love, but i think fan would have scrape up to get it done.
Asked about the Defender a while ago. I think we have distant hope.
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I'd just love to see my local store be able to get new minis in again.
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I would love to see more Aerotech Warships out there. I would love my number of ships to grow.
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I would love to see my local store carry a selection of BETTER minis.
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I would love to see my local store carry a selection of BETTER minis.
Our store has the box sets but they are going fast!
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Box sets aren't pewter minis, though.
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the new C2 catapult comes with gun bits as an alternative to the missile pods. what variant does it make? the C6?
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Box sets aren't pewter minis, though.
I know but pheonixstorm goes to the same store I do and it was the quickest way to let him know ;)
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the new C2 catapult comes with gun bits as an alternative to the missile pods. what variant does it make? the C6?
K2
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K2
Ralpartha Europe use to make those with original catapult mini. They stopped because deal i think. I've not looked into getting a K3 heavy ppc variant but that was con exclusive if i remember right.
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Ralpha Europe use to make those with original catapult mini. They stopped because deal i think. Im not looked into getting a K3 heavy ppc variant but that was con exclusive if i remember right.
The K2 RPE made was the one for MechForce UK. I have a couple of those, and they are really nice looking.
This newer one was designed by Matthew "Stinger" Cross, as a "Dark Age" revamp of the old CPLT-C1 Catapult...kind of trying to bring it into a more modern look. He added the PPC's as a gesture to the community knowing how coveted that sculpt was.
The one you are referencing is the CATLTD-06 Limited Edition Catapult CPLT-K4, which comes with Missile Boxes to make the CPLT-C4.
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I don't know if the Limited Edition Catapult was ever a Con exclusive but it's been popular enough that it's been available as an online-exclusive mini for over ten years.
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I don't know if the Limited Edition Catapult was ever a Con exclusive but it's been popular enough that it's been available as an online-exclusive mini for over ten years.
It technically was, all those LTD minis were at one point or another
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So it's just that unlike many of the others, it's been popular enough to keep in production?
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Yep!
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So, some further clarification on the CPLT-C2 Catapult. The C2 was originally designed for MechWarrior Dark Age in the very original release. They then back-ported through stats to classic BattleTech later and made the mech premier inn 3062.
From there, the weapons load (2 cannons in the torso) made it a perfect candidate for me to swap the missiles for PPCs and then call those torso weapons machine guns.
Are those PPCs Canon? I'm not totally sure. But no matter what, they should be some fun additions to your collection!
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I acquired one recently, and still haven't decided how to build it!
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just get another one. ;D
I acquired one recently, and still haven't decided how to build it!
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There's got to be more versions and sculpts of the Catapult then any other mech. Not complaining, I've loved the Catapult since first meeting "Deadeye" in Mechwarrior 2 Mercenaries. Can anyone confirm that the Catapulthas more sculpts than anything else? Zeiss may be up there too.
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There's got to be more versions and sculpts of the Catapult then any other mech. Not complaining, I've loved the Catapult since first meeting "Deadeye" in Mechwarrior 2 Mercenaries. Can anyone confirm that the Catapulthas more sculpts than anything else? Zeiss may be up there too.
you're probably right
* original "long legs" ral partha
* plastech fatapult
* iwm c4
* cgl box set / lance pack raven-sized boy
* limited edition kuritapult
* DA C2
* new box set sculpt
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Marauder is currently at 6 available sculpts, not counting the variants included in each pack, the unseen versions and the reseen version. Also not counting the II, and IIC versions.
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* cgl box set / lance pack raven-sized boy
There's also the IWM metal version of this one.
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is that in the beginner set?
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It came from that series of starter lance packs IWM sold for a while, i think they're still on the web store. They were largely copies of the plastics from the 25th Anniversary and last Intro Box, complete with half-hex bases. Other way around in fact, as I think the metal ones came out first.
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http://ironwindmetals.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=16_136&products_id=4061&osCsid=9qp9tns5873ihofhrooi48csd1
i'm annoyed now that i found out my Battleforce Catapult is incomplete
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They were largely copies of the plastics from the 25th Anniversary and last Intro Box, complete with half-hex bases. Other way around in fact, as I think the metal ones came out first.
Correct in that the metal Beginner Sets came first. The plastics are copies of them.
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Cool. Catapult must be the most popular mech in the game. Or at least up there amongst the most popular.
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So any word on 2nd quarter releases?
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Mid this month...already got the update from IWM
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Wasn't it Ursus II, Scourge, Scarecrow?
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Wasn't it Ursus II, Scourge, Scarecrow?
Hahaha...ya know what, I read wolfspider's question wrong. I saw it as the Q1 releases, so I responded with "mid this month". Those are the Ryoken III Prime, Crusader -8L, and Swordsman. Sorry about any confusion...still digging out of the Box Set maddness over here with shipping over 400 of them.
As far as Q2 goes...yes.
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<snip....still digging out of the Box Set maddness over here with shipping over 400 of them. </snip>
Holy Material Consumerism, Batman. That's a lot of product.
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Holy Material Consumerism, Batman. That's a lot of product.
Tell me about it...the extras are hitting the site today. When it's all said and done it will be near 500. My back is killing me! LOl
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Tell me about it...the extras are hitting the site today. When it's all said and done it will be near 500. My back is killing me! LOl
Your delivery guy is going: " HAH! Don't get me started! xp " :D
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you're probably right
* original "long legs" ral partha
* plastech fatapult
* iwm c4
* cgl box set / lance pack raven-sized boy
* limited edition kuritapult
* DA C2
* new box set sculpt
You forgot the RPE/MFUK K2 Sculpt, though that's now the "LE" sculpt. I can count at least 8 T-Bolt sculpts, NOT counting the original plastic and/or new plastic sculpts. Adding in 2 Fan Sculpts and 2 MWO sculpts, that brings the T-Bolt to 14!
Thunderbolt TDR-1C - Primitive
Thunderbolt TDR-5S - Unseen
Thunderbolt TDR-5S - Unseen - Old Plastic
Thunderbolt TDR-5S - Classic - New Plastic
Thunderbolt TDR-9M - Reseen
Thunderbolt TDR-9NAIS - Reseen
Thunderbolt TDR-10M - Reseen
Thunderbolt TDR-10M - Jumping Pose
Thunderbolt TDR-10SE - Reseen
Thunderbolt IIC
MWO Sculpts
Thunderbolt TDR-5S
Thunderbolt TDR-5SS
Fan Sculpts
Thunderbolt II - Fan Sculpt - N Scale
Thunderbolt II (Mjolnir) SVN-1 - Fan Sculpt - CBT Scale - Metal (Was also available in resin)
Then there's the Rifleman, with 12 (counting the plastic, RPE/MFK sculpt and IIC sculpts), which can be "augmented" by 2 MWO sculpts to bring it up to 14 as well.
Rifleman RFL-1N - Primitive
Rifleman RFL-3N - Unseen
Rifleman RFL-3N - Unseen - Plastic
Rifleman RFL-3N - BattleDroid
Rifleman RFL-6X/RFL-7M - Reseen
Rifleman RFL-7X - Reseen
Rifleman RFL-8D - Reseen
Rifleman RFL-X3 - Reseen
Rifleman II IS - MFUK/RPUK
Rifleman IIC - Unseen
Rifleman IIC - Reseen, Jumping Pose
Rifleman IIC 3 - Reseen
MWO Sculpts
Rifleman RFL-3C
Rifleman RFL-3N
The Warhammer count is 9, not counting 3 MWO sculpts. (I can't remember if it had a plastic sculpt also or not. :-\ )
Warhammer WHM-4L/9S - Reseen
Warhammer WHM-6R - Unseen
Warhammer WHM-6R - Battledroids
Warhammer WD (WHM-6WDR) - MFUK/RPUK
Warhammer WHM-X7 "The Lich" - Reseen
Warhammer WHM-8D - Reseen
Warhammer WHM-8K - Reseen
Warhammer IIC - Unseen
Warhammer IIC - Reseen
MWO Sculpts
Warhammer WHM-6R
Warhammer WHM-6D
Warhammer WHM-6K
The Marauder stands at 10, not counting any Fan sculpts. I'm not sure how many are even out there. xp
Marauder MAD-3R - Unseen
Marauder MAD-3R - Unseen - Plastic
Marauder MAD-3R - BattleDroids - Hex Base
Marauder MAD-3R - BattleDroids - Oval Base
Marauder - Reseen
Marauder II - Unseen
Marauder II - Reseen
Marauder II MAD-4S - Reseen
Marauder IIC - Unseen
Marauder IIC 2 - Reseen
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I don't think I'd count the IIC mechs as being the same mech, given that they're A) Clantech and B) completely different masses. At that point, you might as well say that the Maelstrom, Dragonfire, Nightstar, and all four Mad Cats also count as Marauders.
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I don't think I'd count the IIC mechs as being the same mech, given that they're A) Clantech and B) completely different masses. At that point, you might as well say that the Maelstrom, Dragonfire, Nightstar, and all four Mad Cats also count as Marauders.
Maelstrom, Dragonfire don't remotely resemble the marauder, funny thing is the Nightstar strongly does.
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The Maelstrom not so much, but I'd say that the Dragonfire does as much as the Nightstar.
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the maelstrom is like the marauder's third cousin twice removed
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Q3 2019 mechs posted
Shadow Cat (DA) - based on the clix sculpt?
Primitive Emperor - :drool:
Quickdraw 8P (Prototypes) - I’ve wondered if they’d ever do this one
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Q3 2019 mechs posted
Shadow Cat (DA) - based on the clix sculpt?
Primitive Emperor - :drool:
Quickdraw 8P (Prototypes) - I’ve wondered if they’d ever do this one
Yep...like the image attached
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The Ugly Cat.
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I'm happy to learn the Quickdraw will be done. I hope we'll have a choice of weapons like the Axman.
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The DA Shadow Cat looks like a Saggitaire that went on a starvation diet.
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I'm happy to learn the Quickdraw will be done. I hope we'll have a choice of weapons like the Axman.
Is the 8P the one with the Torso-Cockpit and a gun instead of the head?
Would be cool if it had an alternate head, more akin to the original Quickdraws, for the ability to build it as one (like the Dragon II being built as the OG Dragon)
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Expect the DA Shadow Cat to be like the Dark Age Catapult or Centurion Omni or even the DA Black Knight.
Inspired by the original, inspired by the MW4 source material, but ultimately something cool. When these DA based sculpts come up, we sculptors are given a bit more freedom to follow "the rule of cool" .
I've done several, including the Aforementioned Catapult and Centurion, along with the Cougar Resculot and the Gravedigger. Trying to make the best of all available art.
Also, I don't know who is sculpting this one. Heck, it could be me.... But more than likely not.
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So . . . before it was 4 new quarterly releases, and now it seems to be 3 . . .
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So . . . before it was 4 new quarterly releases, and now it seems to be 3 . . .
Was like that all last year too. 3 releases per quarter, not counting online exclusive items.
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Which is why I waited . . . its been 5 or 6 quarters with the 3 releases, I THINK coincidentally when they had the problem with the PGI/HBS/CGL lawsuit that had the Valkyrie pulled.
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has anyone looked back at the release schedule from when they were doing 4 per quarter to see if that 4th slot was more often than not a vehicle? - because they don't do retail vees anymore. a fourth mech mold might put them over for costs
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has anyone looked back at the release schedule from when they were doing 4 per quarter to see if that 4th slot was more often than not a vehicle? - because they don't do retail vees anymore. a fourth mech mold might put them over for costs
That only happened very infrequently. Typically it was another mech.
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I suspect that how few mechs are left without minis at this point has something to do with it.
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That only happened very infrequently. Typically it was another mech.
had a chance to go back and check the internet archive - this is true for at least 2017 (as far back as the release page goes).
I suspect that how few mechs are left without minis at this point has something to do with it.
at least ones they're willing to produce. you could do four a quarter for years if you did all of the XTRO and prototypes mechs, plus the leftover 3085 and 3145/50. I've got about 115 of those.
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at least ones they're willing to produce.
That's the key point. Others may be alright for online exclusives, and certainly for fan-funding efforts, but wouldn't move enough for distribution purposes. That's why you don't see vehicles either, the volume just isn't there for distribution.
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right. as cool as the Slagmaiden or Schwerer Gustav would be, there's not a booming market for jihad-era one-offs
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I was just wondering . . . I mean, it would be cool to be told 'well our business plan/forecast intended to release 1 Classic a month and we never adjusted that plan to keep it simple.' My heart is telling me that, a lot, but I sort of wanted to see if it was my imagination where we had gone through a period of a couple of years of releasing four while before that the count was less. Its only been the last 5 or 6 years I have been watching the release thread or on IWM's news- before that I would buy what I found in a store or order shipped to me when I lived in the sticks.
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While I am a sculptor, I know nothing about sales numbers.
What I can bet though, is that the main reason we only have 3 a quarter (compared to 4 every 2 months back in 2012-2013) is MWO minis. If people would buy the official stuff, there would be more official stuff.
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I've had some discussions with Mike at IWM on this subject back when it changed as I was surprised. The decision was based (if I recall correctly) sales numbers & other contractual agreements. IWM as you all know doesn't just make Battletech stuff, they do contract casting as well as Fantasy figures. A LOT of factors goes into the decision of making more, or less, of a product line. So it may be more than what I recall as I may not have been privy to all the info.
Now...before everyone goes all crazy & says Illegal MWO stuff is taking over, or the game is dying, etc...neither is true.
My personal opinion (which probably stinks in some peoples minds), especially based on my own sites sales, some of the decisions on what miniature to make...aren't the best. Now, I don't know the full process, and it could simply be someone higher up saying "hey make this one", but it could also be some sort of intricate plan that I don't know about.
I think a good deal of catch-up is needed, and I think using the poll option here on the forums or on Battletech International Facebook group (or better yet...both averaged out) would be an AWESOME idea. Poll people with say 15-20 options for the quarterly release schedule. This way, popular vote wins.
Take for instance...how many people actually bough the Vixen 6? Granted, this will be a little skewed since the official record sheet didn't exist until Catalyst gave it to IWM...but seriously...that, and some of the other designs that got variants in "normal distribution" just didn't make good sales sense based ONLY on MY numbers I've sold.
Whereas other...crap people, I couldn't order them fast enough to keep them in stock. I was literally ordering 12 at a time, and could NOT keep them on the shelf. Know how many Vixen 6's I've sold...7, and one of those was to myself.
So if the powers that be read this, which I hope they do, I think a good idea to help increase sales of miniatures, is to do a poll for the general public opinion on what they would like to see based ONLY on STANDARD existing designs that have NOT seen the light of day with a single sculpt. For example, the Xanthos already had a sculpt, did we need the -6O...nope, its a beauty, don't get me wrong, but that over items that haven't had a single mini made??? It just doesn't make sense to me...and many others I've talked to.
And before anyone says polls don't relay TRUE intent on sales...yes, I FULLY understand that, but it will help point people in the right direction for what might sell better than a 6th sculpt of something we already have a boat load of.
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While I am a sculptor, I know nothing about sales numbers.
What I can bet though, is that the main reason we only have 3 a quarter (compared to 4 every 2 months back in 2012-2013) is MWO minis. If people would buy the official stuff, there would be more official stuff.
That particular topic has led to more than a few rather heated discussions around my group's gaming table. Mostly because there's one player who insists that his MWO minis are totes legal.
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That particular topic has led to more than a few rather heated discussions around my group's gaming table. Mostly because there's one player who insists that his MWO minis are totes legal.
Well...that's a MAJOR grey area. You can print your own, but how many people own a good enough 3D printer to print their own "production quality" MWO minis??? Not many. So if for some reason he happens to be one...ok, sure...technically it's "legal" because he is abiding by the ToS from PGI and printing for his own use.
Now...tournament legal is something COMPLETELY different! LOL
Let's cycle this back to what's in the pipeline though...
IWM...any word on the next Online Exclusive releases???
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I've often wondered if we'll ever see official MWO minis. I guess the big question is would the rewards for a company producing them be worth all the hassle to get the rights.
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I've often wondered if we'll ever see official MWO minis. I guess the big question is would the rewards for a company producing them be worth all the hassle to get the rights.
Long drawn out story on that one, I'll reserve comment and let the official people handle that one!
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The issue has to do with how tangled up the IP for all things Battletech on the computer is, right?
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The issue has to do with how tangled up the IP for all things Battletech on the computer is, right?
That is definitely part of it...but, the ability to produce is there from what I'm told, the desire lacks. Beyond that...I don't have all the specifics, so I can't fully comment.
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Dragon raises some excellent points. I remember when IWM was discussing the idea of variants (a long time ago) and having those available. They mentioned the Awesome 8T, which in my mind would have been cool. Although now that I know more about the sculpting process, I would be concerned that if that had happened, would it have been a new sculpt or based off a production miniature? If the latter, we would see a noticeable difference in size due to shrinkage.
Now we didn't get that. But we did get a whole lot of Project Phoenix 'mechs with rocket launchers. Which leaves a big question of, "Why those?" That was also in an era when the quality from IWM could vary wildly. Thankfully there has been a lot of improvement. Although I too would be curious as to what decisions are made and how.
At one point IWM -- or it may have been Ral Partha -- had talked about coinciding release of miniatures with new products. That ideally when a book would be released, we would see those miniatures available immediately if not soon after. But BattleTech has been so prolific it just isn't possible. And that crowds out miniatures for units that I would find more interesting to see used.
Also, I've seen a lot of the MWO 3D printed minis on the Facebook groups. For many, their quality is laughable at best. We'll see what Anthony Scroggins can do though and what that means for IWM.
Metal 4 Life. \m/
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The thread has gotten a little off topic.
There are many reasons why the number released each quarter has changed over the years. Not something that I am able to really talk about.
As for MWO, will never see anything done by IWM for these. Would be an entire new license and at this point not worth it since people have been selling them online for years now.
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I want MWO minis for some mechs, but I'm unlikely to get any not official.
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I want MWO minis for some mechs, but I'm unlikely to get any not official.
Well, some IWM mechs are pretty close.
Lu Wei Bing is basically a MWO Victor and could easily proxy as one.
(http://cfw.sarna.net/wiki/images/f/fa/Lu_Wei_Bing.jpg?timestamp=20131120084354)
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My apologies for derailment.
As for upcoming minis, anyone have a painted swordsman or crud to show off?
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Look in the miniatures section, someone raced to paint up a pretty solid one with some close in pictures.
I want one, and will probably have to wait for my FLGS since they are sorting out their distributor dropping IWM. I know they asked what folks would consider buying from the catalog, got a list of mechs, and then the Agent gave some suggestions of what to have in stock that people might pick up. Basically he submitted a list of iconic mechs- Timber Wolf, Atlas, Battlemaster, etc. I know I am getting a Falconer, and a Scourge when its released.
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Yep...like the image attached
OH MY GOD THAT IS SO COOL!
Seriously, the two Shadow Cats in Clickwarrior were my mains basically for the remainder of the games lifespan. I am excited to see this model make it to metal
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2 posts of the Swordsman as of this moment. I'm still deciding on a scheme for my 8L.
My apologies for derailment.
As for upcoming minis, anyone have a painted swordsman or crud to show off?
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As a new player, I’d say what makes MWO minis so tempting is that they’re competing with some of the oldest designs out there. Hell, they might be some of the oldest sci-fi miniature wargame sculpts still on sale. The CGL starter box changed that for nine mechs, but given how hard the plastics were to clean up, I’ve decided that I’ll wait for IWM versions of new sculpts when more of the new designs get released.
In other words, redo the 3025 mechs.
The practice of releasing primitive versions of classic mechs works well. I bought a RFL-1N model to use as a regular Rifleman and a Raven II to use as a Raven even though the armament isn’t quite right. (Weapon bits would be nice!) They look great. The Lu Wei Bing is another approach - redo classic mechs under new names - but how many people are going to find out about it? Could you give it a “Victor” tag so it shows up in searches?
Having said all that… I’d buy a Brahma if you made one.
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Having said all that… I’d buy a Brahma if you made one.
YES!!! I've been waiting for one since 2010! I'm not crazy about variants, primitives (and primitive variants) being made before releasing units that don't have a mini, and the Brahma has been top of my list for a while.
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Some of the 3025 mechs. Some still hold up. I think the Orion, panther, blackjack and others could use some work, but hold up.
The problem is that they are descended form the '80s, and the 80s giant robot aesthetic was limited by television screen sizes and resolutions, as well as how hard it was to draw thousands of them for animation.
but yes, 3025 to update the look and 3055-58 to make some of the sculpts less bloated and awkward would be my priorities. Modular bits for various variants in the basic blister would be heavenly, by the way
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Has the Q2 releases gone to stores yet? I think a Scourge needs to be added to my 4th Regulan Hussars . . .
Any announcements for Q4?
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Well, Ares Games isn't listing them, at least.
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or the ebay seller i sometimes order from.
it seems like the quarterly releases are middle of the second month to beginning of the third month so we're in the range where they could drop any day now.
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Per Mike at IWM...all 3 sculpts are not in house as of this past Monday...so it's still going to be a bit of a wait.
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Aw . . . a Scourge as part of Bannson's Scourge to scourge enemies . . .
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I think all the 3025 designs are fine. They're iconic and we should own that look. Better sculpts/minis of that art? Such as with the Centurion?
YES PLEASE.
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I like the centurion and yen low wang sculpts from last year. More detail, good scale and variant bits.
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A lot of the 3025 minis would be improved just by making them multiple pieces that could be posed. So many of them are bricks.
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better for experienced moddelers.
Worse for newbies and casuals.
Worse for distributors and stores having to decide between one, the other, or both.
I want them too, but don't see them coming. I'd settle for better poses than 'standing there'
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Eh, as long as they don't go wild and have the ridiculous number of parts some of the Project Phoenix designs had, it ought to be fine.
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If every original TRO 3025 (and most of 2750) design got the same treatment the Awesome, Commando, and Catapult got in the box set they'd be a lot more attractive to everyone. I recently got a Wyvern (for a really ugly example) to run an event and I gotta tell you that as soon as that game is over that mini is leaving my collection however is most convenient at the time.
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If every original TRO 3025 (and most of 2750) design got the same treatment the Awesome, Commando, and Catapult got in the box set they'd be a lot more attractive to everyone. I recently got a Wyvern (for a really ugly example) to run an event and I gotta tell you that as soon as that game is over that mini is leaving my collection however is most convenient at the time.
Even its IIC looks terrible, and that says a lot.
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If every original TRO 3025 (and most of 2750) design got the same treatment the Awesome, Commando, and Catapult got in the box set they'd be a lot more attractive to everyone. I recently got a Wyvern (for a really ugly example) to run an event and I gotta tell you that as soon as that game is over that mini is leaving my collection however is most convenient at the time.
i mean....not everyone. New Awesome looks like crud out of a bubblegum machine to me.
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i mean....not everyone. New Awesome looks like crud out of a bubblegum machine to me.
I wouldnt mind getting that bubblegum machine
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No kidding. Are you sure you didn't get a miscast or production error? Mine looks amazing.
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i can't look at the painted examples in the minis subforum and come to any other conclusion than it's a great sculpt
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i mean....not everyone. New Awesome looks like crud out of a bubblegum machine to me.
Yeah; it's definately got that swollen/simplified look to it. Much less of a form-follows-function war machine than the original, which was alternatively thicc/cadaverous in ways that made me feel like it was a real walking fortress. But then you look at the parts that don't quite fit from one angle, but they do from another and it's easy to imagine that something like say; the arm baffles have a purpose specificly related to the design and function suggested by the art.
The new plastic has that; but with the rough edges rounded off and butter-fed.
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Personally I don't care of the over-paneled look of both the new and the old. I am much more a fan of the MechWarrior 4-esque designs that use bumps and shapes to add detail rather than panel lines. It is more of a product of the technology at the time than a true art style, but overall, it is my favorite.
Plus with all the panels, there isn't any space big enough to put a unit emblem....
Also, please ignore the yellow beamer, this is my opinion as a fan...
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Decals work just fine over panel edges with microset and microsol, emblem still looks fine. Free-handing it is a bit more of a pain in the ass, but I humbly submit that if you're freehanding an emblem you get what's coming to you. :D
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Not sure if this is the right thread, but wanted to ask: Do you think we'll see a Mad Cat Mk. IV C at some point? We have a Prime, but I'd love to see the C config of it because it's my favorite loadout for the chassis.
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Not sure if this is the right thread, but wanted to ask: Do you think we'll see a Mad Cat Mk. IV C at some point? We have a Prime, but I'd love to see the C config of it because it's my favorite loadout for the chassis.
Probably not. Most variants lately are done at the same time or have extra parts in the same blister.
That's not to say at some point someone could create the parts necessary...but most likely this would be a fan funding project which if you wanted to personally fund, would come after IWM was all caught up with their own castings and contracted casting jobs.
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IMO its honestly not going to look that different from a regular one- the gun arms are going to be pretty close, just need a side car ERML. The Missile pods are going to be the biggest change- and those can be used from original Timber Wolf parts or get the Mad Cat Mk II missile pods.
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If they were going to make a variant of the Savage Wolf, I'd recommend going with a new sculpt to fix the flaws of the original: the contact points for the arms and legs are far too small.
Not that I actually expect it to happen.
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gotta pin it. anyone who can get it to stay together without pinning is some kind of warlock. also they should send me their glue.
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I can get it to stay together as long as I leave it on the shelf and avoid looking directly at it.
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Legs I got fine . . . it was the arms that got me, so my local agent who does pinning better (I got too much when I tried) fixed it for me.
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I will updated the website after I get back from vacation, but the Emperor has moved up to 2nd Quarter and Scourge is now in 3rd quarter. This has happened to a few things out of our control.
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Nice. I am excited for the emperor.
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I like the original mini but think its too thin in the chest for what its supposed to be . . . guess I am waiting to be a scourge in the Scourge.
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Speck, any web-only releases?
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I will updated the website after I get back from vacation, but the Emperor has moved up to 2nd Quarter and Scourge is now in 3rd quarter. This has happened to a few things out of our control.
Hope you have a fun yet relaxing vacation, Speck. Safe travels, man! :thumbsup:
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Speaking of the Scourge, is there any way to sign up for a notification when its mini is released? I want to get one.
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Well...Iron Wind Metals doesn't have a notification system aside from posting in these forums.
While not totally a notification system, you could follow our Facebook page and watch for the post that shows when it comes out. I'd post the direct link but I have a feeling that would be frowned upon but some of the mods.
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Not a bad idea, but it would require me to use facebook and using facebook IS a bad idea.
Thank you anyway. I'll just poke in every few months if I remember. Been kinda dialing back my involvement with BattleTech, the Scourge will likely be the last mini I buy.
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Not a bad idea, but it would require me to use facebook and using facebook IS a bad idea.
Thank you anyway. I'll just poke in every few months if I remember. Been kinda dialing back my involvement with BattleTech, the Scourge will likely be the last mini I buy.
LOL...well, I can't argue with actual logic!
if you happen to be on Tumblr, or subscribe to the LotB thread I have going in their trade & sell section, or watch my blog on the site...you can find out that way too! I'll have them right when they ship out as IWM is 1 business day shipping, and as always they offer them up to retailers a good month before they list them their selves.
So just some alternative ways to watch for them.
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Speaking of the Scourge, is there any way to sign up for a notification when its mini is released? I want to get one.
Scourge will be a 3rd quarter release. So later in the summer.
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Probably September or October, given Gencon, right?
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october is Q4 so I hope not ;D
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Probably September or October, given Gencon, right?
Would be after gencon, so August / September timeframe.
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Would be after gencon, so August / September timeframe.
Speaking of GenCon, do we know yet what will be released at GenCon?
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Speaking of GenCon, do we know yet what will be released at GenCon?
Nothing been announced yet.
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Usually mid to late July, closer to the con as things are finalized.
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Anyone seen the Q2 releases in the wild?
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I just found them for sale online.
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Anyone seen the Q2 releases in the wild?
Come on now...you can find them! Hint hint
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I was very excited to see new warships in the first succession war sourcebook. Will those be getting a regular release or will they require fan funding?
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At present, I believe that all non-mech units are Online Exclusives because they don't sell well enough at normal retail.
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Pretty much. It seems like they'll do a sculpt or two per year like the flatbed truck from con season but most non mechs are now relegated to fan funding
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I was very excited to see new warships in the first succession war sourcebook. Will those be getting a regular release or will they require fan funding?
I asked a while ago about the Defender but was told it was further down the road.
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I've looked, but not seen - is the Raider in the mix? Wanting to make a Wylde's Jokers battalion, but kinda necessary to have Raiders for Bannson's ...
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Do we have enough people here willing to fund sculpts for the Succession War warships?
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What Succession War WarShips?
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I've looked, but not seen - is the Raider in the mix? Wanting to make a Wylde's Jokers battalion, but kinda necessary to have Raiders for Bannson's ...
Troll...there was talk at one point, I don't recall if it was official or fan funding...but I don't think it lead anywhere.
Speck???
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I've looked, but not seen - is the Raider in the mix? Wanting to make a Wylde's Jokers battalion, but kinda necessary to have Raiders for Bannson's ...
For distro release as of now no. Fan Funding next year possibly. Finishing off the list I had posted the other day first.
What Succession War WarShips?
I think they are in the SW books or early Clan stuff that was missed. If people want to fan fund a warship we can talk about it more later this year.
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SOYAL or we....! Uhm...spam the board with Urbanmech memes?
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For distro release as of now no. Fan Funding next year possibly. Finishing off the list I had posted the other day first.
I think they are in the SW books or early Clan stuff that was missed. If people want to fan fund a warship we can talk about it more later this year.
Well, I should have some money saved up by then (the KS has consumed the rest of this year's hobby budget). Thanks!
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What Succession War WarShips?
The ones in the "Field Report: 2765" series of pdfs.
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All of which were in service long before the Succession Wars, which explains the confusion. Recommend calling them 2765 ships, or Field Report ships. Both are shorter than Succession Wars, and more accurate.
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*coughTROSuccessionWarscough*
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Are the WarShips in that?
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All of which were in service long before the Succession Wars, which explains the confusion. Recommend calling them 2765 ships, or Field Report ships. Both are shorter than Succession Wars, and more accurate.
I chose to call them that because they were the last warships to live and die in the Inner Sphere until the return of the Clans.
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Are the WarShips in that?
Nope, but it covers mechs from the Age of War . . . so yeah, complaining b/c ships from earlier eras that were used and died in the Succession Wars as 'Succession War' ships when afaik no other new classes were built in that period is a bit nit-picky.
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complaining b/c ships from earlier eras that were used and died in the Succession Wars as 'Succession War' ships when afaik no other new classes were built in that period is a bit nit-picky.
Welcome to the BT boards new guy! :D
Yes, that was sarcasm!
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Is there any Warships in the pipe line. I want some new ones.
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Is there any Warships in the pipe line. I want some new ones.
Would have to be Fan Financed.
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Would have to be Fan Financed.
I would put money toward the Defender.
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I'd help out.
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The 3025 mechs not covered in the Kickstarter would be great to have redone: the Vindicator, Whitworth, Dervish, Firestarter, Clint, Osts…
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The 3025 mechs not covered in the Kickstarter would be great to have redone: the Vindicator, Whitworth, Dervish, Firestarter, Clint, Osts…
I'm staring to a get a bit nervous about the Ostroc and Ostsol, as well as the Goliath and Scorpion. They have been conspiciously absent from the recent revial efforts; TRO: SW as one example and the KS as another.
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I'm staring to a get a bit nervous about the Ostroc and Ostsol, as well as the Goliath and Scorpion. They have been conspiciously absent from the recent revial efforts; TRO: SW as one example and the KS as another.
Yeah, man.
Scorpion's my favorite mech in BT having it basically forgotten and excluded pretty much from everything, feels like a kick in the balls.
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I want know why their not doing anything with them.
Technically speaking, the Ostsol & Ostroc were two unseens which had that status removed since their too drastically different from the source material. I guess they didn't need redesign? I'm little upset about Scorpion and Goliath being left out. Quads aren't super beloved but they have their place.
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Scorpion's my favorite mech in BT having it basically forgotten and excluded pretty much from everything, feels like a kick in the balls.
Not forgotten. Just not so easy to fit in with everything else going on.
- Brent DOES want to redesign the quads, but they don’t fit well on the hex bases so they haven’t been done yet. The Goliath and Scorpion probably will get re-works at some point.
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Not forgotten. Just not so easy to fit in with everything else going on.
Maybe, but the original Unseen sculpt didn't have many issues fitting once the hexbase.(https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2019/7/9/1017447-Battlemaster%2C%20Battletech%2C%20Dougram%2C%20Griffin%2C%20Scorpion%2C%20Shadow%20Hawk%2C%20Thunderbolt.jpg)
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That doesn't really fit with the "new modern" aesthetic, though.
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Maybe, but the original Unseen sculpt didn't have many issues fitting once the hexbase.
Which means absolutely nothing because that artwork is not going to be used. You're just as well off saying the Battleforce scale minis fit on a hexbase.
The Reseen Scorpion doesn't fit on a standard base, and the Goliath barely, if you call that "fitting". If you'll notice with the nuSeen aesthetic, things are bulkier and the poses dynamic. How is that going to help the situation?
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The 3025 mechs not covered in the Kickstarter would be great to have redone: the Vindicator, Whitworth, Dervish, Firestarter, Clint, Osts…
I could see myself buying all of the above next year.
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Which means absolutely nothing because that artwork is not going to be used. You're just as well off saying the Battleforce scale minis fit on a hexbase.
The Reseen Scorpion doesn't fit on a standard base, and the Goliath barely, if you call that "fitting". If you'll notice with the nuSeen aesthetic, things are bulkier and the poses dynamic. How is that going to help the situation?
Hey, fair enough, but not sure why you're bringing up Reseen miniatures, seeing how close the new designs are to the originals. I think it's a fair point of comparison, at least the mediums, like the Shadowhawk seem barely any bigger.
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj261/Saint304/New%20Shadow_zpsr4s7q9sx.jpg)
And besides Battletech minis were never consistent scale-wise.
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The point is that nearly all the quads they have done recently have been larger than the hex base- and I go back to TRO3060 with the Fire Scorpion, Stalking Spider, and Bishamon. The only ones that I can think of that do not are like the Barghest . . . so like bi-ped mechs have human/bird leg types, I think we can safely categorize quads as dog/spider leg types. As has been mentioned, the Quads are not forgotten but IMO are left out of Clan Invasion for some pretty simple reasons- art/production differences & they are case/special/variant rules.
Osts have sort of been done . . . they redid the Ostscout, back in the Jihad we got the Ostwar as a precursor/stand-in for the other two. The Ostwar mini is really interesting as you have 3 different 'hand' options.
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I'm little upset about Scorpion and Goliath being left out. Quads aren't super beloved but they have their place.
Maybe having them redone as QuadVees so that they can fit well on a base.
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So . . . you are wanting a Goliath IIC as a QuadVee?
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And besides Battletech minis were never consistent scale-wise.
It's always struck me as a bad fit to try and impose consistent scale on an abstract game.
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I’d be more worried if the Kickstarter covered every pre-3050 mech except for the quads and Osts. It doesn’t, so there’s some plausible deniability there, and some good reasons to leave the quads for later, as Colt said. The existing Scorpion model only fits because the legs are bunched up, which is not conducive to looking cool.
But with any of these old mechs not in Catalyst’s Kickstarter… can IronWind work on them, or do they need Catalyst to create the art first? If the latter, then all we can hope for in the near future is metal versions of recent plastics, metal conversion packs for recent and upcoming plastics, and any Jihad and Dark Age mechs still waiting for a miniature. Which is unfortunate for me, because I’m still in the earlier eras (and would looooove a modernized Vindicator, Dervish, and Clint).
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Well, IWM's release schedule is 3 or 4 new mechs a quarter, about that many special for GenCon . . . and consider at least half of the 90? in the KS will be better sellers than any 'new art' quads. And so I would expect a few years before you might see a new metal Scorpion or Goliath, even if the art for one is released next year when Wave 1 drops- they will want to get Warhammers, Marauders, Riflemen and Timber Wolves out. Heck we still have not gotten the metal GoAC box mechs.
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So . . . you are wanting a Goliath IIC as a QuadVee?
And don't forget the scorpion. ;)
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Well, IWM's release schedule is 3 or 4 new mechs a quarter, about that many special for GenCon . . . and consider at least half of the 90? in the KS will be better sellers than any 'new art' quads. And so I would expect a few years before you might see a new metal Scorpion or Goliath, even if the art for one is released next year when Wave 1 drops- they will want to get Warhammers, Marauders, Riflemen and Timber Wolves out. Heck we still have not gotten the metal GoAC box mechs.
Sure, there is an argument to be made there. But lemme check the KS...
Just making sure...And there are a number of post 3025 IS designs that are getting Nuseen and in fact I think the only onces missing *besides* the Quads (already covered off; explanation checks out) and the Osts are the WD Mechs (minus the already Nuseen Flea) and then you're into BD stuff.
It's a conspicious absence to not have the Ostroc when you are giving us the Sentinel.
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What's WD and BD?
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I believe that WD refers to Wolfs Dragoons mechs like the Imp, Annihilator, Gallowglas, and Hoplite. Not sure about BD, maybe Battledroids, referring to the Behemoth and the other second line mechs from 3055.
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Eh, I feel the core 3025 stuff got done, and if they wanted it to be Invasion they had to have some of the new designs (or recovered SL designs) from that era.
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Eh, I feel the core 3025 stuff got done, and if they wanted it to be Invasion they had to have some of the new designs (or recovered SL designs) from that era.
I mean, aren't they doing the Star League lance with King Crabs and Black Knights and whatnot?
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Yes, two Level 2s of Star League which is where the Sentinel shows up . . . but we also have the Nightstar and Thug as part of the regular IS lances. I may have been thinking of another 1 or 2 that got cut from TRO '55 & '58. But we also got 'all new' designs like the Axeman & Bushwhacker- I know the Berserker was there but got cut.
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Axman is from the cartoon and bushwacker is from mechwarrior 3. surprised there isn't an uziel in there from mech 4 (/joke)
Still not sure where the solitare came from, and the nova cat can't be anything but pandering to cheese.
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The Nova Cat is in there because it was released at the tail end of the Invasion era and it gives Clan Nova Cat a signature heavy mech, which they would lack without it.
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Sure, the Axeman is from the cartoon (94)- but it was in a SB (95) & TRO3050 (90) . . . so it was perhaps made iconic by the cartoon, just like the video games did for other mechs.
The Bushwhacker came out in TRO3058 which was 1995. As stated it was in MW3 (99), and also featured in MCG (99), MC2 (2001)- it is the mech you start with in MW3 and MC2 its part of why its iconic.
The Nova Cat was in TRO3060, yes it was in MW4 and MCG, with looks that make it readily identifiable with the franchise. Since its not a pulse/TC or headcapper loaded- or even heat neutral- I am not sure where your gripe comes from. Its certainly less abusive than the Night Gyr. As stated it gives the Invading Nova Cats their most iconic design that is also quite popular.
Solitaire is present b/c it came out before '61, was widely available from the Sharks on the market and is a pretty solid design that is not as complicated or lacking in combat ability than some other light designs.
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The Bushwhacker was also in the cartoon.
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Eh, I feel the core 3025 stuff got done (…)
I don’t really agree, even ignoring the quads and Osts, but I’m comfortable with the idea that it wasn’t their intention to do so.
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The Nova Cat was in TRO3060, yes it was in MW4 and MCG, with looks that make it readily identifiable with the franchise. Since its not a pulse/TC or headcapper loaded- or even heat neutral- I am not sure where your gripe comes from. Its certainly less abusive than the Night Gyr. As stated it gives the Invading Nova Cats their most iconic design that is also quite popular.
The Nova Cat pretty much is a Night Gyr, just with the jump jets removed. Reading through the MotW articles (And not just those two) it was irritating to run into the refrain of "Omnis should never mount fixed equipment" or "Fixed Jump jets? It's ruined!!!" in the comments
As for configs, I do think that the Nova Cat has an efficiency edge. Not a huge one, but present.
Finally, I think of it more as more of a civil war era mech. It is certainly post-Bulldog.
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The other reason the Nova Cat got included over the Night Gyr is due to the latter's laser heatsinks.
And the Nova Cat was first deployed in 3059,at the same time Operation BULLDOG was taking place.
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Oh, I will agree the Nova Cat is probably more efficient in its configs- hard to find a Timber Wolf B type lemon in the mix. The Gyr has more Pulse/Headcapper & TC combos IIRC, but Sarna is down so I cannot check what always annoys me is the so-called E config. It is Pulse with a token ATM to get that E moniker. And while the design showed up in TRO3060, I want to say it was getting some proto-type work in the mid-50s.
While I agree with Omnis never mounting fixed equipment, the Cougar/Gyr/Turkina do not bother me like that b/c its a faction related design that reflects their philosophy. Just as most Wolf designed mechs lack fixed JJ (Pouncer is it- which unforunately means no IJJs, imagine a Pouncer like the IJJ/ERML Preta) and usually have a bit more speed than efficient- Ice Ferret/Gargoyle.
As for 3025 service . . . (now that Sarna is back up)
Lights- Javelin & Firestarter missing, but get Raven & Wolfhound, Ostscout was already redone
Medium- Dervish, Vindicator, Assassin, Hermes, Clint, Vulcan & Whitworth- some of these got voted off while others are IMO marginal for combat
Heavy- Jager & Quickdraw missing, but gain the Cataphract- again some voted off
Assault- Charger . . . I do not recall it being present, several more showed up b/c they were voted to be replacements to med/heavies
Out of 56 you are missing 12 but gain 3 from the 4SW period with some voted off and others voted on- so around 80% of what is from 3025 with 13 TRO2750 designs thrown in.
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I don’t really agree, even ignoring the quads and Osts, but I’m comfortable with the idea that it wasn’t their intention to do so.
That's part of what's confusing me; I thought the point of this was to, first of all and least sensical to my mind (but whatever; I'm not having that fight again) redo the original Clan Omnis and secondly to finish off the Nuseens.
I still don't get why we're nuseening mechs that have always been fully owned by TPTB, but whatever; for some reason there is this massive drive to do it; so we're doing it.
Anyway; my impression was that the original Omnis and remaining unseens were the top priority. Like; why Nuseen something you already have locked-down IP-wise? If we're cool just *not* redoing some of these, then why bother with the Ostscout? I mean, frankly; there was one that PP did okay on. I figure the reason actually has to do with needing an unseen light mech to slot into that CM.
Not asking for an explanation; I think that's been given. I'm just explaining my own bewilderment. It's just weird as hell to me to stop 80+% of the way through the job and move onto something else.
But, hey; it sounds like we'll eventually see these, someday? I'd personally be very interested in all four of these models. Especially if the Ostroc and Ostsol, being as they were always quite original, didn't change much. I'd LOVE something that works well with the Ostwar's arms for kitbashing. The Osts are just great on the table and the Quads are so flavourful; nice to mix of the aesthetic, you know?
But, hell; I'm still hoping to see official stats and art for the Hedgehog and Three-Man Digging Machine, so maybe I'm not the core fan demographic?
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Is there a glossary anywhere? I am hopeless with these abbreviations today.
I’m also curious as to what IronWind will focus on the next couple of years.
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it's really been random.
2019 (including unreleased q3/4):
3145/50 (4) - Neandertal, Raven II, Scarecrow, Scourge
Prototypes (1) - Quickdraw 8P
3085 (2) - Crusader 8L, Ursus II
Classics (1) - Royal Shadow Hawk
XTRO (1) - Ryoken III
Primitives (2) - Emperor, Swordsman
Redone Sculpts (4) - Thunderbolt IIC 2, Jupiter 3, Thor II E, Gyrfalcon 4
Other (1) - DA Shadowcat Prime
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Anyway; my impression was that the original Omnis and remaining unseens were the top priority. Like; why Nuseen something you already have locked-down IP-wise? If we're cool just *not* redoing some of these, then why bother with the Ostscout? I mean, frankly; there was one that PP did okay on. I figure the reason actually has to do with needing an unseen light mech to slot into that CM.
Not asking for an explanation; I think that's been given. I'm just explaining my own bewilderment. It's just weird as hell to me to stop 80+% of the way through the job and move onto something else.
The Ostscout is a bit of a puzzle for me- but the reason was pretty plain by the criteria they used in the KS voting. Basically they redid the most popular/affiliated designs- full stop. The whole point is a line refresh to be competitive with the modern look- something MWO I think sort of drove home was that TRO PP was not a acceptable substitute for the modern player base. I am not even sure a majority of that art fit in at the time the book was produced.
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The Ostscout is a bit of a puzzle for me- but the reason was pretty plain by the criteria they used in the KS voting. Basically they redid the most popular/affiliated designs- full stop. The whole point is a line refresh to be competitive with the modern look- something MWO I think sort of drove home was that TRO PP was not a acceptable substitute for the modern player base. I am not even sure a majority of that art fit in at the time the book was produced.
Well, a lot of what was in PP was objectively terrible and some of the minis were not great either. Some of the later revisions to the same art really help and some of the later minis just look better like the later PP MADs.
But at heart you had art that was torn between being lawsuit-safe without, I think; knowing how distant it had to be to be safe (The most recent lawsuit reveals that HG are basically crazy anyways) and also paying homage to the originals. Some are better than others, but overall what drove popularity as it went was having something official again for the unseen.
I don't think modern had anything to do with it. PP was just a lackluster result, full-stop. There were some redeeming standouts here and there, but the Marauder is and always will be key and it was universally-panned. Given technology and budgets at the time, I am not sure what could have been done to avert that. I'd love to say; apply common sense and don't make it look like an excavator had a baby with an AT-ST, but I wasn't there to see what was going on, so I can't really judge.
You'll never please everyone. I value loyalty to the original material and completeness; full stop. I look at anything that got a torso-twist and didn't previously have one as invalid. I see any gaps in the line and I'm not happy. On the flip-side are people who hate everything the unseen stand for, but especially the aesthetics (The marauder CAN'T WALK!) and won't use anything in-game they think of as "fugly". Likewise; the graphics of MWO have convinced many that this is the light and the truth and the way the game needs to go.
I can beat the drum to the end of time on how much can be done with new and better minis (Highlander, Flashman, Centurion) and maintaining harmony with the original art. But if the aesthetics of the game *itself* are the problem, either in fact or in popular perception among TPTB and the fanbase; well...I'm not really sure what can be done, ultimately.
MWO was more popular, I think; because a computer game is always going to be more accessable. Even on the pay-to-win model (as an example). Appearances were key, because graphics matter almost more than anything in modern games. They are the trademark of the game itself in many ways. You have to screw up on the engine pretty bad or leave a lot of bugs in before a game becomes truely unplayable so long as you have frequent save points, short games (1:30-5min battles) and nice eyecandy to appreciate.
The problem with graphics in games is that they are often a solution that demands a problem; you *need* different kinds of models to showcase what the graphics of the game can really do. A model which is simplistic doesn't show off as well. It's the old story-medium dilemma. Like; picture HG trying to do a modern-tech game with the Macross/RT models? They'd almost certainly need to set it farther long the timeline to take advantage of the more detailed and dynamic-looking models the series has later-on or significantly re-work their older stuff. It's too bad that no-one is really does this at the moment; because their approach to a 40-year-old IP in a 2020-release video game might be very instructive. I also see this in WOT all the time where the older models that have been around forever are very simply textured and newer ones; especially premiums are increasingly festooned with accesories and stowage; sometimes to their detriment when they forget that a roof-mounted MG can give away your tank early.
So too paralelles in advances in miniature design and production. We can simply do things today that we could not do economically or at all in 1982. How much better-looking is the 3rd Sculpt Atlas than the first? While still modelling the same art. Part of the problem of 3d-printing (not opening that can of worms more than to peek) is how far-again of an advance that is; just in the way things are made and how that allows minis to be designed. In terms of design; modern technology makes fan input not only possible (as in the highlander and flashman fan-funding) but almost demands it and I am increasingly baffled when I see projects going forward without it. Even 40K, though they will never admit it, took the inspiration for the new Primaris Space Marine models directly from the universally-lauded fan works in "true-scale" which have been appearing online for over a decade now.
If you're looking for a connection between PP and MWO in terms of what the fanbase will accept...I'd really need to know how much of the playerbase for MWO were actual active or semi-active BT fans? The MechWarrior series has ALWAYS been much more accessible and widespread than the tabletop game and as goes the MechWarrior games; so go the vast majority of their mechwarrior players. Judging anything of the tabletop playerbase by the computer game playerbase would thus be a mistake. I'm sure we can find people on this board (thread?) who came here from Mech Assault, MW4, MWO or even Crescent Hawk's Inception. But if the vast majority of the people who play those games never make the leap to the tabletop, is it wise to be marketting to their taste in aesthetics? Which is not to say that no-one who plays mainly or only the TT wargame Battletech does not prefer the models of MWO or BTPC. The overwhelming vocal opinion is that this is not only wise, but imperative. So, okay. But a few more points to add;
Two aspects of tabletop gaming that this current approach to certain models robs us of is the scenario-gamer and the power-gamer.
Neither of these care a whit about how a given design *looks*. While they may appreciate something attractive on the tabletop, they can do without it in order to have the satisfaction of playing the scenario as-written or having the best-possible mech for the points on the board. What they want is to be able to display the model a given scenario (be it historical to the setting or random from that awesome table going around) demands or to take advantage of the strengths of a given model.
If I am doing Delta Company vs Cochraine's Goliaths (or I've just wanted to FOREVER); I need Goliaths, about 36, actually and they should look as-described in the book; tall elephantine-take on a headless AT-AT with a turret on top. Likewise if another scenario or RAT roll calls for a Scorpion. And the Ostroc is one of the better 3025 60 tonners. The Ostsol; one of the best overall zombie-mechs of all time. In neither case do I care a lot what they look like; save it would be nice to have something basically appropriate for the era. if I am going to proxy; I can do so just as well with Micromachine AT-ATs or bottle caps as with a PP Goliath. Heck; with even just the art i can do standees.
A downfall of these one-piece, fixed-pose KS minis is limited draw for a multiple-buy for the modellers among us. I have four Ostwars I am working on. With their construction I can build each one in a different post to differentiate them. I know you'll get to multi-part minis, eventually, or at least; I hope so, but right now it is a drawback.
An advantage is the potential for enhanced affordability and (eventual) access to the individual models for bulk and custom-purchases online (oh PLEASE LET IT BE SO!), do down the road I could go onto the site (whichever it is) and buy those two Warhammers; the Stone Rhino and three Stingers that I just decide that I want for reasons.
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what always annoys me is the so-called E config. It is Pulse with a token ATM to get that E moniker.
While the H configs were specifically Heavy Laser additions, those that added ATMs simply used the next available letter. See: Daishi C, Masakari D, Loki C, Vulture D, Battle Cobra C, Shadow Cat C, Nobori-Nin D, Crossbow C, and Turkina D. Also check out the non-ATM E configs of the Masakari, Crossbow, and Hankyu. The Cauldron-Born didn't gets its E until recently; it also packs a HAG. Many omnis already had four alternate configs (A-D) before the introduction of ATMs, making the next one an E, but the list above should be enough to show that it was not an equipment-specific designation. No annoyance is necessary over the use of the letter.
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It's also hardly the only omni to have only a token ATM pod in its ATM configuration.
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Timber Wolf E, Stormcrow E, Adder E, Gargoyle E, Summoner E, Ice Ferret E, Nova E, Nova Cat E, Blood Asp E, Kingfisher E, Black Lanner E, Linebacker E, Stooping Hawk E, Viper E, Kit Fox E, Cougar E, Mist Lynx E, Grendel E, Pouncer E, Phantom E, Fire Falcon E and Executioner E . . . so, while not applied as strictly- the Stooping Hawk F has Heavy lasers, no H config, as does the Nova Cat D- its still a pretty solid rule. Its a token weapon that gives lip service to having a ATM configuration, its like sticking a LRM5 on most Hunchbacksso it has 'range.' Most others that have a single ATM have larger launchers or more ammo . . . or are smaller, like the Kit Fox having a single ATM3, ERPPC and JJs.
I have been disappointed we never got a ATM Epona, its a great platform for the weapon system.
beachhead . . . they are plastic, I know I have seen plenty of pictures of people already cutting up GoAC box mechs to reposition them. I did it with AS Lance Packs, but not ready to try with the new ones yet.
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If the Gyr had only used SRMs to back up the lasers, would you be okay with it having the 'E' designation?
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I guess, I think it should have gotten a P designation instead . . . but yeah, it would join the other non-ATM Es.
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E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E
guys i'm seeing a pattern here
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You need to make it more fun, W E E E E E E E E E E E E!
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Coincidentally, that's the sound Diamond Shark merchants make when they sell highly ammo-dependent systems...
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We are off-topic here.
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Sure . . . to put it back on . .
FLGS is hosting a 24 hour charity event, we are setting up a BT table 2 hours in with a fun grinder. I will be looking to see if the Scourge is in, if not I will be ordering it . . . and handing it as a Christmas.
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Haven't seen the third quarter releases show up anywhere yet.
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If its not, I will tell them I am interested in it for their next order. Or have the wife ask so they contact her.
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Q3 releases are out! All 3 look GREAT! Psycho did an awesome job on the T-Bolt IIC 2 Variant (some will call it a resculpt)
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Just thinking. Shouldn't the fansculpts from late last year be due? The Zibler Fast Attack Tank was funded in later December for one.
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Zibler??
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Just thinking. Shouldn't the fansculpts from late last year be due? The Zibler Fast Attack Tank was funded in later December for one.
Can't wait for those to come out as well!
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Q3 releases are out! All 3 look GREAT! Psycho did an awesome job on the T-Bolt IIC 2 Variant (some will call it a resculpt)
Just in time for my credit card to cycle ;D
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I don't know where to post this suggestion... and it may have already been beaten to pieces....
When are we going to see a KS to upgrade IW Metals to IW Miniatures?
imho: IWM needs to be in the Resin /3D printed miniature market as well.
I'm good for $50.
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I don't know where to post this suggestion... and it may have already been beaten to pieces....
When are we going to see a KS to upgrade IW Metals to IW Miniatures?
imho: IWM needs to be in the Resin /3D printed miniature market as well.
I'm good for $50.
Beaten to pieces, super glued back together, and beaten again.
I love my metal...but, with the new Catalyst minis in hand...I do like them, and their weight to ship is fantastic!
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Just thinking. Shouldn't the fansculpts from late last year be due? The Zibler Fast Attack Tank was funded in later December for one.
It is done, it got behind but is in process of getting printed so molding can happen.
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It is done, it got behind but is in process of getting printed so molding can happen.
NICE!
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Was that going to have multiple turret options?
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Can we get a look at the Scourge mini? How many pieces? The IWM site is down while looking tonight.
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When are we going to see a KS to upgrade IW Metals to IW Miniatures?
imho: IWM needs to be in the Resin /3D printed miniature market as well.
1. Let's Hope for NEVER.
2. In MY Opinion, IWM needs to stay Metal Only, or at the very least have Metal minis alongside any resin minis.
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Can we get a look at the Scourge mini? How many pieces? The IWM site is down while looking tonight.
Been so busy, I don't have one open yet, but here's a pic of the blister. IWM won't have it on their site for about a month. They allow retailers to sell them during that time unencumbered.
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So body, arms sprue, legs sprue, and waist?
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Got pics of the new Quickdraw?
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So body, arms sprue, legs sprue, and waist?
Yeah, six total pieces it looks like
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Yeah, which makes the '4 pieces' thing a bit off.
Still looks pretty good, easy to assemble . . . my Regulans will be happy to see it donating gauss slugs to Oriente mechs.
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Yeah, which makes the '4 pieces' thing a bit off.
A sprue full of parts is one piece. 2 sprues + 2 separate pieces = 4 pieces.
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No, when it comes to minis and I ask how many pieces, its how many parts need to be stuck together to get the mini. I know I am not the only one who buys based on 'low' number of parts . . . though that has eased the last few years after the Phoenix insanity.
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Got pics of the new Quickdraw?
Best I can do for now, although it's only 4 sprues, all of the blisters are giving me fits on trying to get a good shot...but I did get one of the weapons sprue!
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Was that going to have multiple turret options?
Prime and a variant
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I have to get one thoses, despite me no longer getting minis. I want mod it so it's pulling a mech-scale golf bag on two wheels, with all those extra hand-held weapons.
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Duffer?
I have to get one thoses, despite me no longer getting minis. I want mod it so it's pulling a mech-scale golf bag on two wheels, with all those extra hand-held weapons.
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Any idea when we will get a 2020 release list?
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Any idea when we will get a 2020 release list?
Working on finalizing 1st quarter.
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Will it include the Raider 'Mech? Thanks.
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Will it include the Raider 'Mech? Thanks.
No
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Speck, any chance that we could get the Arrow IV launcher from the newish Regulator put into the scrapyard for separate purchase?
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Any word on when one can get their hands on the Q4 releases?
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Any word on when one can get their hands on the Q4 releases?
Should be soon, I will check with Mike on Monday.
Speck, any chance that we could get the Arrow IV launcher from the newish Regulator put into the scrapyard for separate purchase?
I will add to the list.
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Thanks Speck!
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Someone asked for a Scourge? You do have to drill out the arm sockets on the body for a better fit. The arms are ball and socket, but the socket on the body isn't deep enough for a good fit. Its flat.
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What about the legs? Its where I am getting the most problems it seems.
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Legs fit to a waist bit, socket style again. It could benefit from pinning.
What about the legs? Its where I am getting the most problems it seems.
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The arms on mine fit just fine, but the legs only attached at an angle that makes the mini lean back slightly.
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The arms on mine fit just fine, but the legs only attached at an angle that makes the mini lean back slightly.
Which is my problem- the flanges of armor plate around the socket/ball on both pieces. What did you do?
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Which is my problem- the flanges of armor plate around the socket/ball on both pieces. What did you do?
I've trimmed the armor plate back slightly so that it wasnt leaning back so far.
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Which is my problem- the flanges of armor plate around the socket/ball on both pieces. What did you do?
Posed the mini so it looks like it's aiming at something above itself.
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Did that because of the legs?
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Yeah. It's slightly tilted back with its arms raise, so it looks like it's looking and aiming at something uphill.
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here's how i did mine
https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=65150.msg1562068#msg1562068
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Thanks, I forgot you had posted that picture of a Scourge leaning into the stiff wind of infantry rifle fire.
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dangerous in numbers
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Just a FYI, the Shadow Cat III Prime, A and B Record Sheet PDF is posted to IWM Downloads > Battletech > Record Sheets folder
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.. there's a Shadow Cat III? ???
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.. there's a Shadow Cat III? ???
Yep...it's available now, just not on IWM's site yet as they give us retailers 30 days roughly
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.. there's a Shadow Cat III? ???
Based on MWDA Shadow Cat, new art was generated and stats. Not sure what book the art will be in.
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The Shadow Cat III has some pretty interesting stats.
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The Shadow Cat III has some pretty interesting stats.
I already loved the look of the original model (especially the Loose artwork). This design just cements that love. I can even make my own personal configuration I had with the original (although I either have to switch the Streak-4 for standard SRM’s or the Angel ECM Suite for a standard one).
Ruger
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Has the list for Q1 of 2020 been put up yet?
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Has the list for Q1 of 2020 been put up yet?
Just looked yesterday...no
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There may not be anything new until they redo the store after the new year.
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Their redoing the store? I hope works out okay. I hate to wait too long for new stuff.
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Just downloaded the Shadow Cat III sheets and I have to say it's a solid improvement over the original and the bc isn't insane. I will likely give all three versions a shot.
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Mine’s arriving Friday (along with the Neanderthal and Jupiter 3). I’ll throw up some pics of at least the kitty this weekend
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Just got my Jupiter 3 and Shadow Cat III an hour ago. Almost have the Jupiter put together: very nice looking, so much better than the original. Going to put the Shadow Cat III together next.
I will say that the Jup's ammo feed pieces threw me off for a bit until I flipped the arms over and saw where they attach.
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Just downloaded the Shadow Cat III sheets and I have to say it's a solid improvement over the original and the bc isn't insane. I will likely give all three versions a shot.
Not sure if I said already, but we also created the parts for A & B variants of Shadow Cat III that will release in 2020.
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Not sure if I said already, but we also created the parts for A & B variants of Shadow Cat III that will release in 2020.
New Variant Parts!!! AWESOME!
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My only issue with the mini is just how huge the legs are. They seem oversized for the body and arms.
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Pics of the new minis?
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Pics of the new minis?
Waiting on official pics of the Shadow Cat III and Neanderthal...but here's the Jupiter
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I've got pictures on my phone but I can't seem to upload them.
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After I get back home next week I will be building thr 4th quarter release and taking pictures.
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Just a FYI, the next print run of the Battletech: Beginner Box set has updated the expiration date of the coupon code for the three different Metal Starter sets. The coupon is now good until 12/31/2021.
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Just a FYI, the next print run of the Battletech: Beginner Box set has updated the expiration date of the coupon code for the three different Metal Starter sets. The coupon is now good until 12/31/2021.
Speck...some places like my shop still have some of the box sets still in stock. Being that IWM is extending the coupon out till 12/31/2020...will these still be good as well?
I figure it's a yes but I dont want to say so without actual confirmation.
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Speck...some places like my shop still have some of the box sets still in stock. Being that IWM is extending the coupon out till 12/31/2020...will these still be good as well?
I figure it's a yes but I dont want to say so without actual confirmation.
Yes, same code, just updated expiration date.
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Yes, same code, just updated expiration date.
Awesome...good to hear. Thank you
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Speck,
Did those people with store credits have to write down their balances, or did you take care of it?
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Speck,
Did those people with store credits have to write down their balances, or did you take care of it?
I have the info, it can still be used on the current store and when the move happens to store I will update my list.
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When do you expect the move to take place?
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When do you expect the move to take place?
This month.
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Will we need to pull off our shopping basket information? I keep 'wants' listed for when I make a order.
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Will we need to pull off our shopping basket information? I keep 'wants' listed for when I make a order.
Yes, new user accounts will need to be created for the new store. Going from old shopping cart software to new that are from different companies there is not a easy way to migrate unless you want to pay some good $$$. Plus it give a fresh start and many more features.
I will be creating a post later this week, still getting caught up from being away for New Years.
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Yes, new user accounts will need to be created for the new store. Going from old shopping cart software to new that are from different companies there is not a easy way to migrate unless you want to pay some good $$$. Plus it give a fresh start and many more features.
I will be creating a post later this week, still getting caught up from being away for New Years.
man, glad I saw this!
But once we make new accounts, our store credit transfers?
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But once we make new accounts, our store credit transfers?
First post on this page has your answer.
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First post on this page has your answer.
I saw that. Sounded like a yes, was not sure. I will take it as a yes now.
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I saw that. Sounded like a yes, was not sure. I will take it as a yes now.
The plan is, I will email everyone who have credit. Ask them to create an account and let me know once that is completed. Then I will add the remaining credit balance to the new account.
Included in the credit balance are the people who have not redeemed FF credit to there current accounts. So all funds will make up the ending balance.
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The plan is, I will email everyone who have credit. Ask them to create an account and let me know once that is completed. Then I will add the remaining credit balance to the new account.
Included in the credit balance are the people who have not redeemed FF credit to there current accounts. So all funds will make up the ending balance.
That sounds pretty labor-intensive. Is there anything I, as a store credit holder, can do to simplify your job?
(I'm assuming the only thing that would actually help is spending all my credit before the cut-over, but I figure it can't hurt to ask.)
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Speck, get a good beginner book on SQL and PHP and in the future you should be able to have someone create a php script to handle database migration. With a basic understanding of both and a little practice it won't be hard. I did it for migrating a forum from a flat file db to SQL long ago. Took a couple tries but was well worth it in the end.
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Speck, get a good beginner book on SQL and PHP and in the future you should be able to have someone create a php script to handle database migration. With a basic understanding of both and a little practice it won't be hard. I did it for migrating a forum from a flat file db to SQL long ago. Took a couple tries but was well worth it in the end.
But WHY would you trust things to Squirrels? They'll either eat the stuff or hide it away somewhere "for later", then forget where they put it. :-\
:D
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Better a squirrel than a racoon.
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i assume any news regarding Q1 retail is on hold until the website job goes through?
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Better a squirrel than a racoon.
True!
Sure, they look cute and all, with their little hands, but MAN I Hate them! They've stolen WAY too much of the food I've left out for my CATS. :flame:
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The squirrels or the raccoons?
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Probably both.
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Are we losing any functionality in the move? Ie; the scrapyard and Omniparts are still a thing?
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The squirrels or the raccoons?
Sorry. :-\
The raccoons! While I know there are squirrels all over the place, I've yet to see one on the back porch. Had as many as FOUR raccoons stealing cat food at one time. Momma and 3 babies. That was after I'd run her off a few weeks prior, and told her she was a BAD parent for bringing her kids into a potentially dangerous situation. Alas, being shot with a BB gun wasn't enough to keep them away for long. :P
I don't have it in me to actually KILL them. :-\
Speaking of Killing . . . :D (As in "Bank Account"!)
Hey Speck, I don't guess any news has been discussed, regarding getting the new minis from the KS in metal anytime soon? Or even the minis from the last 2 box sets? ???
REALLY wanting that new T-Bolt in METAL!! :excited:
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Lol, we have not even gotten the KS products yet. I would be surprised if you saw ANY of them released by IWM before next year.
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Yeah, there was something mentioned about Catalyst having first crack at producing the plastic minis, before IWM could produce them in metal. Except for the Shadow Hawk.
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I would expect the Wasp, Valkyrie, or whatever they produced and had to pull to be the first thing back.
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I would hope that IWM would be able to do variants of the following:
Locust
Commando
Griffin
Wolverine
Catapult
Thunderbolt
Awesome
Battlemaster
We already have the shadow hawk although a 3050 shadow hawk 3M would be the bomb!
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You don’t have to tell us, but we’re definitely all wondering if IWM will be selling metal equivalents of the same mechs, or different variants of the same mechs, or conversion parts. Or if you’ll focus on IlClan and the next era instead.
Conversion parts would be particularly helpful for the omnis due out soon, but maybe that’s too small a market, and I don’t know how practical metal bits on plastic minis will be.
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Could have sworn I read somewhere that IWM was going to focus on the variants while the plastics focused on the base model. Maybe in one of the old kickstarter threads?
Metal on plastic works fine with the right glue unless we're talking something like a massive metal cannon and arm replacement on the same side of a plastic mini with a really dynamic pose.
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I don't see the point in IWM making Variant parts for a Base model they're not "Allowed" to make. :-\
Well, or Variant parts, PERIOD for plastic minis.
And as wolfspider pointed out/listed, we DO have the ones from the last 2 Box sets that IWM could release, since those ARE "Out in the Wild" already. :thumbsup:
They've had the new Battlemaster design for a few years now. Why the holdup on it? :(
I KEEP Hoping we'll get a new "Assault Lance Box Set" some year at Gen Con, featuring the new Classics! We're talking 1 Battlemaster, 1 Marauder, and TWO Warhammers!! :drool: :excited:
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I KEEP Hoping we'll get a new "Assault Lance Box Set" some year at Gen Con, featuring the new Classics! We're talking 1 Battlemaster, 1 Marauder, and TWO Warhammers!! :drool: :excited:
This 10000 % And the all the other boxes as well! I am also half expecting IWM to do the remaining OST mechs! >:D
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I don't see the point in IWM making Variant parts for a Base model they're not "Allowed" to make. :-\
Why not? If the new Thor Prime is only available in plastic, what's wrong with the new Thor B being only available in metal?
And before anyone starts pointing out how easy it would be to covert one into the other, I have no idea as of this post what a Thor B is armed with. It's just an example.
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none of the specific agreements between cgl and iwm are public knowledge. we won't know what's what until we start seeing minis on a release schedule (or don't, which is equally telling)
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none of the specific agreements between cgl and iwm are public knowledge. we won't know what's what until we start seeing minis on a release schedule (or don't, which is equally telling)
QFT
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none of the specific agreements between cgl and iwm are public knowledge. we won't know what's what until we start seeing minis on a release schedule (or don't, which is equally telling)
This is the most important post in this thread, if not the entire minis section of this forum.
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Why not? If the new Thor Prime is only available in plastic, what's wrong with the new Thor B being only available in metal?
Sorry. I meant I don't see the point in IWM making metal Variant bits for a plastic mini that they can't make the entire mini of.
Then again, I'm a Collector, and the VAST majority of my assembled/painted minis came that way. I either bought them outright or commissioned them. I've NO idea how difficult it is to get metal bits to stay attached to plastic, or vice versa. Is it as easy as just using Zap-a-Gap, superglue, or whatever the preferred glue is? Is pinning required to ensure the bits stay attached? I don't now the answers to any of that. :-\
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This 10000 % And the all the other boxes as well! I am also half expecting IWM to do the remaining OST mechs! >:D
After seeing a pic of the KS minis, yeah, I think they could Probably re-do all the other old "Unseen" Lance Box Sets as well! :thumbsup:
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Its totally valid that CGL want's their share of the market for the new plastic boxes. But not everyone wants to buy lances, stars or Level IIs to get that one single mech they want. So beside CGLs plastic sets there is still a market for IWM. And i hope this will be opened in the next year(s).
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I put the primitive Emperor together last night . . . I have to say again, that is just a real sharp looking mini. I had a hard time even finding mold seams to file down, it went together really simply and even with both feet solidly on the hex base it still looks like its in action. I will have to see how much I can change it up for my 2nd mini, might have to get some help cutting the leg to have it bent for a walking/running pose.
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agreed. it's a great mini. the primitive crossbow is in the same style and would also look great on the table
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I do fine the primitives to be bit above par among the mini we've gotten in the past.
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The Dark Age minis are unsurprisingly on the same level . . . anything IMO is better than some of the intricate Phoenix problems. It honestly makes me excited for when IWM can start doing the KS minis in metal, especially with the Omni variants.
But it does raise the question . . . are the old Omnis & parts going to be retired?
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But it does raise the question . . . are the old Omnis & parts going to be retired?
Why would they? The original Omni minis still are being sold, they're just online-only. One would assume the resculpts would be available the same way once superceded, in retail, by newer sculpts. As long as there's life in the masters/molds they're worth making available.
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True, they do not have the Archive system any more.
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True, they do not have the Archive system any more.
What are they using now?
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What are they using now?
Nothing really...you can simply buy them there or one other place. ;D
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What are they using now?
Basically the Archive was that they were in storage, you paid the extra price for them having to get them out of storage . . . I think it was not exactly easy/on site. Now with their expanded facility of a few years ago they had easier access and no longer charge the archive price. Which is great, since my FLGS now orders direct from IWM due to distributor games- my requests to them to backfill some units I want to build have archived mechs added to the order. Right now I have at least 6 archived mechs on my 'want' list. Before the expansion of their facility they offered a poll on here and the top 5 choices would be pulled from archive for the month to be made w/o the archive fee- I know I placed a order when the Emperor 6A made the cut.
I loved the poll b/c it was great to read people's reasons and trying to persuade others to vote for their picks.
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I loved the poll b/c it was great to read people's reasons and trying to persuade others to vote for their picks.
Because my Collection is "Complete" regarding older minis (as far as I'M concerned) , I'd often vote to help other people out. :thumbsup:
I seldom placed an order for a "Archived" mini.
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Basically the Archive was that they were in storage, you paid the extra price for them having to get them out of storage . . . I think it was not exactly easy/on site. Now with their expanded facility of a few years ago they had easier access and no longer charge the archive price. Which is great, since my FLGS now orders direct from IWM due to distributor games- my requests to them to backfill some units I want to build have archived mechs added to the order. Right now I have at least 6 archived mechs on my 'want' list. Before the expansion of their facility they offered a poll on here and the top 5 choices would be pulled from archive for the month to be made w/o the archive fee- I know I placed a order when the Emperor 6A made the cut.
I loved the poll b/c it was great to read people's reasons and trying to persuade others to vote for their picks.
Honestly one of the best fanservices ever offered anywhere, IMO.
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I would hope that IWM would be able to do variants of the following:
Locust
Commando
Griffin
Wolverine
Catapult
Thunderbolt
Awesome
Battlemaster
We already have the shadow hawk although a 3050 shadow hawk 3M would be the bomb!
8)
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8)
Hahaha...can't wait for the announcement Speck! Although I know some already! LOL
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8)
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Sartris...
I'd post the meme but my tablet is crapping out on me for some reason...
You can't handle the truth.
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Sartris...
I'd post the meme but my tablet is crapping out on me for some reason...
You can't handle the truth.
Correction: The Tablet can't handle the truth.
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When could we expect a 2020 release schedule? I ask simply b/c I do not remember when in the year they release it . . . I have been building a lot of my metal minis that have been waiting so I can move on to new projects . . .
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Quick question for anyone that knows . . . does the No-Dachi 3X has those missile launchers as optional parts? I want to make a -2KO and not having to cut off the missile pods would be nice.
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i want to say they're fixed
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Ok . . . well, putting together the Christmas/Birthday list and ranking . . .
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Assuming that means what I think it means...
I'm still unlikely to get them. I got two of the AGOAC box, and that's enough of those mechs for most forces/opposition. I have a total of seven wolverine of various generation.
Now if they have variant parts I might consider some of them, but even then I'd give it less than a one in three chance.
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I need to update my old Wolverine thread photo . . .
unseen Wolverine 6R
Wolverine 8K
Wolverine II 7H
Wolverine 3R
Classic Wolverine 6R
Wolverine 7M (3R convert)
Not a fan of the 8K skinny but it was a Phoenix thing, might have to take a 2nd 6R to make it a 8K. Or get another wonderful -3R and make it a 7K with it dual SRM shoulder racks. We need a -7K2, give it a Snub instead of that Large Pulse.
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1st Quarter 2020 (Need to update IWM site this weekend)
Catapult CPLT-C1
Locust LCT-1V
Griffin GRF-1N
;D :thumbsup:
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Classics . . .
WOO, that Griffin is going to sell! . . . are they available to stores? I need to talk to my FLGS then!
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1st Quarter 2020 (Need to update IWM site this weekend)
Catapult CPLT-C1
Locust LCT-1V
Griffin GRF-1N
;D :thumbsup:
Ugh...FINALLY...I can talk about it!
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Oh snap!
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Classics . . .
WOO, that Griffin is going to sell! . . . are they available to stores? I need to talk to my FLGS then!
I emailed them the list. By default they usually get the new releases when they order but you may ask them to hold one for you.
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Oh yeah. 8) Speck, are we getting some new poses with these, or will that be up to us as we assemble them?
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I hope up to us but not in 50 pieces ;D
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Oh yeah. 8) Speck, are we getting some new poses with these, or will that be up to us as we assemble them?
Due to all of the particulars between IWM and CGL and the files they are set in similar poses but you can adjust since they are in parts. May have a few other surprises here and there related to the mechs.
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Sweet. I like surprises. ;)
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Can't wait to get a few!
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Best news today
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Due to all of the particulars between IWM and CGL and the files they are set in similar poses but you can adjust since they are in parts. May have a few other surprises here and there related to the mechs.
the ability to make a Royal Battlemaster would make very happy.
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the ability to make a Royal Battlemaster would make very happy.
I made a red corsair / royal out of boxset battlemasters. I will send you a pic.
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1st Quarter 2020 (Need to update IWM site this weekend)
Catapult CPLT-C1
Locust LCT-1V
Griffin GRF-1N
;D :thumbsup:
What about pictures? :o
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You already have pictures.
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what about pictures of the alternate bits that are maybe included?
really want the guns for a kuritapult in the kit. That I'd probably get.
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i'd get two catapults if they came with PPCs
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what about pictures of the alternate bits that are maybe included?
really want the guns for a kuritapult in the kit. That I'd probably get.
You get your wish, there are Guns for the K2 that will be in the blister for the Catapult.
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You get your wish, there are Guns for the K2 that will be in the blister for the Catapult.
Is there any way to get the guns for the K2 that isn't packaged with an entirely new Catapult?
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i'd get two catapults if they came with PPCs
Only two? :D
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which leaves what variants our pewter dealers are giving us for the locust and griffin.
My uninformed speculation is the royal 1Vr locust, and the griffin getting bits for either a -2s steiner and/or 2N royal.
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All are good options.
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You already have pictures.
No, we Most Certainly do NOT have pictures of the above designs In METAL.
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No, we Most Certainly do NOT have pictures of the above designs In METAL.
You have pictures, they will not be looking any different since they are the same files. Medium will not change how they look unless as mentioned you alter the issue pose. Or build a alternate.
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Is there any way to get the guns for the K2 that isn't packaged with an entirely new Catapult?
Down the road, but not when it first comes out.
which leaves what variants our pewter dealers are giving us for the locust and griffin.
My uninformed speculation is the royal 1Vr locust, and the griffin getting bits for either a -2s steiner and/or 2N royal.
Locust will have 1E and 1Vb (Royal) in blister. 1E and 1Vb use same arms.
Griffin has no variants in blister, but will have one later in the year.
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You have pictures, they will not be looking any different since they are the same files. Medium will not change how they look unless as mentioned you alter the issue pose. Or build a alternate.
True, but it is also good to see that the scale is still appropriate and that the quality is as good if not better than the plastic. You and I know that it will be good, but others may not.
Still, I can't help but want to see them myself.
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I’m looking forward to the Griffin -1S. The Griffin’s the only plastic mini so far that I’ve had an unfixable (but minor) issue with - its chestplate is a little sunken in.
Will old minis of the same variants be retired? Does that ever happen at IWM?
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This came up earlier . . . they HAD been archived, but that no longer means anything . . .
Did you paint the chest to make it look like damage? Maybe lodge a 'gauss slug' into the dimple?
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Only two? :D
in total i'll have fourteen so i'm covered on catapults
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You get your wish, there are Guns for the K2 that will be in the blister for the Catapult.
Well, that settles it, I need to buy a few.
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Awesome to hear they will have variant parts. From what I understand from Anthony Scroggins, there will also be parts (at some point) for the Arrow IV variant as well! Can't wait to get them into the store!
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Any word giving on the remaining OST series of mechs?
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Any word giving on the remaining OST series of mechs?
That would be CGL since they need to create art for them.
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Arrow IV variant
Oooooooooo!
Ok three new catapults
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Eiiiiii Arrowpult!
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Any word giving on the remaining OST series of mechs?
Anthony Scroggins hinted on his Patreon that CGL may have requested some Ost mechs (more precisely Ostsol). He did Ostscout some time ago and IWM has a mini based on that art. But you didn't hear it from me. :D
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Did you paint the chest to make it look like damage? Maybe lodge a 'gauss slug' into the dimple?
It’s too shallow to look like a ballistic impact. I don’t even think most people will notice. If this were 40k, I’d modify it to look like the result of a hammer blow - it could pass for that.
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Hm, glancing blow then
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Or a hit from a light gauss.
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If you want to be that insulting, just call it a LB-2X pellet.
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1st Quarter 2020 (Need to update IWM site this weekend)
Catapult CPLT-C1
Locust LCT-1V
Griffin GRF-1N
;D :thumbsup:
:bow: :bow:
I am unreasonably excited to get my hands on the new locust.
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I’m looking forward to the Griffin -1S. The Griffin’s the only plastic mini so far that I’ve had an unfixable (but minor) issue with - its chestplate is a little sunken in.
Will old minis of the same variants be retired? Does that ever happen at IWM?
Mine had a similar issue. One of its arms was also slightly deformed.
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Yes and no. You can still find the old sculpts of the 3050 omnis in the archive. The older blood asp and Orion models are still out there too. Unsure what happened to the long legs catapult or the original battle hawk, commando, or wolfhound... maybe they didn’t survive the move from RP?
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Yes and no. You can still find the old sculpts of the 3050 omnis in the archive. The older blood asp and Orion models are still out there too. Unsure what happened to the long legs catapult or the original battle hawk, commando, or wolfhound... maybe they didn’t survive the move from RP?
Molds have limited use and they can be damaged. If they are worn out to unusable state I wouldn't create a newer one as these were old sculpts.
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Has the 1st quarter mechs been updated yet? I can’t seem to find it on the website.
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No, the release schedule hasn't been updated.
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Has the 1st quarter mechs been updated yet? I can’t seem to find it on the website.
Last page Speck posted what they would be for everyone.
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Unsure what happened to the long legs catapult or the original battle hawk, commando, or wolfhound... maybe they didn’t survive the move from RP?
Those had new resculpts done near end of RP when production molds wore out. So they only exist in master molds now somewhere.
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Those had new resculpts done near end of RP when production molds wore out. So they only exist in master molds now somewhere.
Wow. Nice to think that the original Catapult (That I prefer) is still out there somewhere.
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I am going to have to check the MotFN threads, I actually prefer the look of the old MCG Catapult and think the new one is a good close look- have to see if any of the old metal matches. As it is, I have a LOT of the Box/AS lance pack Catapuls, which is why I sliced guns off a MWDA fig and the missile pods off the mini to make a K style.
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Have the 1st quarter release of the locust, catapult and griffin been assigned sku numbers yet? I would like to put those on order at my friendly local games store.
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Have the 1st quarter release of the locust, catapult and griffin been assigned sku numbers yet? I would like to put those on order at my friendly local games store.
I will get it posted here soon.
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I will get it posted here soon.
Thanks Speck! :thumbsup:
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20-5182 Catapult CPLT-C1 / K2
20-5183 Locust LCT-1V / 1E / 1Vb Royal
20-5184 Giffin GRF-1N
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20-5182 Catapult CPLT-C1 / K2
20-5183 Locust LCT-1V / 1E / 1Vb Royal
20-5184 Giffin GRF-1N
Thanks again Speck!
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20-5182 Catapult CPLT-C1 / K2
20-5183 Locust LCT-1V / 1E / 1Vb Royal
20-5184 Giffin GRF-1N
Speck...will these be the official listings (model descriptions, not part numbers)? Just want to get them listed on the back end of the site for when they launch.
Thanks!
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Well . . . we are 12 days away from the next quarter, any announcement for it or the next year?
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Hi Speck,
I fully understand that COVID-19 has thrown a serious spanner in the Mechworks and that there are still a lot of uncertainties.
Can you shed any light (current status, estimated date) on the Q1 2020 releases (Locust, Griffin, Catapult) at this point ?
Any further information on Anthony Scroggins' Ostsol concept sketch (i.e. upcoming metal model ?) would be most appreciated
as well.
Good health to all,
Death From Above
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Q1 was in stores I thought- it just did not get much time before they had to shut down. But I have not kept up on Ohio's state, when do your current orders expire?
Will we get a release schedule for the rest of the year or has it totally thrown things out the window?
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Q1 was in stores I thought- it just did not get much time before they had to shut down. But I have not kept up on Ohio's state, when do your current orders expire?
Will we get a release schedule for the rest of the year or has it totally thrown things out the window?
Q1 is not in stores, there was a 3D sculpting issue on one (or maybe 2) of the minis that needed touching up. Last I had heard before IWM was forced to shut down due to Governor orders...they were almost ready to be shipped...then boom, shut down.
Until we hear from Speck, that's all the info I have being a retailer, so take it however you want.
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1st quarter should be out after IWM opens back up fully.
Speck...will these be the official listings (model descriptions, not part numbers)? Just want to get them listed on the back end of the site for when they launch.
Thanks!
Yes.
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Yes.
Thank you sir!
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Can't wait to hear when the new Catapult, Griffin, and Commando will be available!
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Can't wait to hear when the new Catapult, Griffin, and Commando will be available!
Soon...very soon. It's all I can say as I'm not IWM
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Can't wait to hear when the new Catapult, Griffin, and Commando will be available!
They will be shipping out here soon to retailers and distributors. Next month be on IWM webstore.
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Any idea when we'll have pictures? ???
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Any idea when we'll have pictures? ???
Don't push it! LOL
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Any idea when we'll have pictures? ???
Once I get copies from Mike I will build them and post pictures.
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Once I get copies from Mike I will build them and post pictures.
Speck, wild question, with the recent surge in popularity of minis, and new artists like Kevin & Dale being added to the roster of CSO...
What are the odds of getting painted masters done before the release of the minis so that when they go out to retailers like myself, we would have painted imagry to post of the mini?
It's probably one of the biggest gripes in the community on minis, second to no image at all.
I'm right there with you on not much time to assemble and take pictures, so i do get the time constraints otherwise I'd do it for my own site, but it would be awesome if we could get back to that point as it was a few years ago for 1 or 2 of the quarterly releases.
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I forget, what variant parts were those minis going to come with?
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I forget, what variant parts were those minis going to come with?
20-5182 Catapult CPLT-C1 / K2
20-5183 Locust LCT-1V / 1E / 1Vb Royal
20-5184 Giffin GRF-1N
someone also mentioned an eventual C4 arrow piece for the catapult later? is that a thing?
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someone also mentioned an eventual C4 arrow piece for the catapult later? is that a thing?
Variant bits for the Catapult were mentioned, not sure if that is or is not going to happen still. Same with an O.E. variant of the Griffin...but again, unsure if that will happen. Will need to hear from Speck on those.
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Should be an easy conversion if it's not. Either file off missile tips or fill in missile tubes, then drill 5 holes.
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I'd love to get a Catapult with a proper Arrow IV launcher, though.
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What are the odds of getting painted masters done before the release of the minis so that when they go out to retailers like myself, we would have painted imagry to post of the mini?
...Something we've been saying for years.
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Speck, wild question, with the recent surge in popularity of minis, and new artists like Kevin & Dale being added to the roster of CSO...
What are the odds of getting painted masters done before the release of the minis so that when they go out to retailers like myself, we would have painted imagry to post of the mini?
It's probably one of the biggest gripes in the community on minis, second to no image at all.
I'm right there with you on not much time to assemble and take pictures, so i do get the time constraints otherwise I'd do it for my own site, but it would be awesome if we could get back to that point as it was a few years ago for 1 or 2 of the quarterly releases.
I want to improve this for sure, a issue most times is that once the masters are done the production molds are created and they are producing for the release. I get my copies around the time they ship to retailers and stores. Not sure when releases are shipped out to CSO, since Mike handles that. Last few releases have come down to the wire, but I am hoping it can be improved with future releases this year.
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...Something we've been saying for years.
;D
I want to improve this for sure, a issue most times is that once the masters are done the production molds are created and they are producing for the release. I get my copies around the time they ship to retailers and stores. Not sure when releases are shipped out to CSO, since Mike handles that. Last few releases have come down to the wire, but I am hoping it can be improved with future releases this year.
Speck...not sure how many masters are made, but what about creating 1 extra master...which is sent immediately to a CSO artist, the other(s) are used for production?
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Speck, wild question, with the recent surge in popularity of minis, and new artists like Kevin & Dale being added to the roster of CSO...
What are the odds of getting painted masters done before the release of the minis so that when they go out to retailers like myself, we would have painted imagry to post of the mini?
It's probably one of the biggest gripes in the community on minis, second to no image at all.
Kevin and Dale?? ??? Can you say "What" they've done? Between the new KS Designs, and whoever "Kat the Map God" is, the current Art Team is Frikkin AWESOME!! Like AWS-9Q Level! :D
As for painted minis, to be Honest, I actually LIKE the ones that Speck generally posts. They're not "painted", but they're assembled and he does some sort of "Brush" on them that makes them look Really nice. He's told me before at GC Exactly what he does, but I've forgotten. :-[ Anyway, while not in "Full CSO Glory!", I still REALLY like the look of them. :thumbsup:
And let's face it. The CSO Painted minis are just going "See! See the kind of beauty YOU will Never own?" :'(
;D
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As for painted minis, to be Honest, I actually LIKE the ones that Speck generally posts. They're not "painted", but they're assembled and he does some sort of "Brush" on them that makes them look Really nice. He's told me before at GC Exactly what he does, but I've forgotten. :-[ Anyway, while not in "Full CSO Glory!", I still REALLY like the look of them. :thumbsup:
;D
I'm guessing he hits the unprimed(maybe cleaned) mini with a heavy black wash and then wipes it down in a paper towel before it dries. It makes almost any pewter mini look like it's part of an overpriced chess set.
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And let's face it. The CSO Painted minis are just going "See! See the kind of beauty YOU will Never own?" :'(
;D
ain't that the truth
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ain't that the truth
But, I do own a few... :)
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But, I do own a few... :)
just mail me some salt i can rub into this papercut
CSO minis vs how mine turn out
(https://i.insider.com/5b3e84dac8d6edd1018b4627?width=1200&format=jpeg)
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just mail me some salt i can rub into this papercut
CSO minis vs how mine turn out
(https://i.insider.com/5b3e84dac8d6edd1018b4627?width=1200&format=jpeg)
I'd take the one on the right!
Looks more like it'd fit my budget :D
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really it's the one i'd actually play with. if I had CSO minis they'd be in a case never to be removed
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... and that's why I rarely flock the bases on mine. It rarely survives transport to and from, let alone game play.
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So when do we get the Dominator?
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So when do we get the Dominator?
I kicked the hornets nest on that with Adrian Gideon & Mike at IWM. I impressed upon both that this is a MAJOR opportunity to fast track the design, with Blaine's book now out which is a lead up to the ilClan book, it would be a major opportunity to get this released as this is going to be an Era changing event...we need a mini for it!
From what I understand, it's being discussed between a couple people (I'll leave names out as they don't need to be drowned in PM's), but that's ALL I know.
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So when do we get the Dominator?
It will happen, just a matter of time.
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It will happen, just a matter of time.
Sooo...next week then? ;D
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SoonTM
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I kicked the hornets nest on that with Adrian Gideon & Mike at IWM. I impressed upon both that this is a MAJOR opportunity to fast track the design, with Blaine's book now out which is a lead up to the ilClan book, it would be a major opportunity to get this released as this is going to be an Era changing event...we need a mini for it!
From what I understand, it's being discussed between a couple people (I'll leave names out as they don't need to be drowned in PM's), but that's ALL I know.
You know, you could try to Impress upon them this is a GOLDEN Opportunity to get a mini out HOT on the heals of it being shown in a CGL product! Rather than the usual of 2-3 YEARS afterwards, when it's been semi-forgotten about. :-\
Does anyone know the "Soonest" we've gotten a mini after seeing the art in an Official Publication? And what design/mini it was? ???
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But, I do own a few... :)
I do also, but it's from BUYING them, usually at Gen Con. It is NOT because I've got the Talent to do them on my own. :-[ I can safely say that "Artistic Genes" are NOT pat of MY DNA. xp :'(
if I had CSO minis they'd be in a case never to be removed
That's how I am with mine. I've got an antique round-front hutch that I'm displaying them in. Not that I game that often anyway. :-\ My "One Definite Game" of the year WOULD have been at Gen Con this year, "Masters & Minions" if I could've gotten a ticket. Now that won't be happening. :'(
But since we won't be having a GC this year, that makes me wonder . . .
Speck, will we be getting any "Gen Con" Minis this year, since we didn't have a Gen Con? Well, or any other "Convention Exclusive" minis? ??? Hell, even in SEP/OCT would be fine for a lot of us! :thumbsup: Better late than never!
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You know, you could try to Impress upon them this is a GOLDEN Opportunity to get a mini out HOT on the heals of it being shown in a CGL product! Rather than the usual of 2-3 YEARS afterwards, when it's been semi-forgotten about. :-\
Does anyone know the "Soonest" we've gotten a mini after seeing the art in an Official Publication? And what design/mini it was? ???
I did...but because I'm just a retailer, I have no say in if it does or does not get done.
If I was allowed to participate in the fan financing at my dealer discount...I would fund it myself as well.as several other designs.
Keep in mind...many of the sculptors are a bit tied up at the moment as well...so that may slow things down too.
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I did...but because I'm just a retailer, I have no say in if it does or does not get done.
If I was allowed to participate in the fan financing at my dealer discount...I would fund it myself as well.as several other designs.
Keep in mind...many of the sculptors are a bit tied up at the moment as well...so that may slow things down too.
Would be nice. I want the White Raven too and I don't even know what it looks like. I just like the name.
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Would be nice. I want the White Raven too and I don't even know what it looks like. I just like the name.
LOL I find it intriguing that it is called "White Raven" but is a Steel Viper mech.
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LOL I find it intriguing that it is called "White Raven" but is a Steel Viper mech.
lol...that got used in a Wolf Bloodname trial.
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At the very least, I suspect it will take less time before we these mechs than it took to get a mini for the Defiance.
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Still holding out for the Liberator, Wildfire, Prometheus and Epimethus here. ;D
At the very least, I suspect it will take less time before we these mechs than it took to get a mini for the Defiance.
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The cyrano and nightshade would like a word
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It's right up there with the Shogun never having been used by the DCMS
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LOL I find it intriguing that it is called "White Raven" but is a Steel Viper mech.
Maybe it has some kind of put down in the meaning of the name, kind of like the Mad Dog, Wolf Hunter, and Ice Ferret.
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You'd think House Davion would have had a Yellow Bird mech for specifically dealing with Dragons.
Maybe it has some kind of put down in the meaning of the name, kind of like the Mad Dog, Wolf Hunter, and Ice Ferret.
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"Run, it's the Death Canary regiment!"
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Will the new Catapult, Griffin, & Commando be the same size as the box set versions? Or will they be slighting smaller and skinnier like Catalyst's Alpha Strike sets?
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Maybe it has some kind of put down in the meaning of the name, kind of like the Mad Dog, Wolf Hunter, and Ice Ferret.
To my knowledge it is a Clan Wolf mech that was only mentioned in "Divide and Conquer" book so it would be fairly new. It was also referred to by the Clans so it may have connections to Clan Snow Raven or Clan Sea Fox depending on the primary configuration.
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"Run, it's the Death Canary regiment!"
There is a thread in fanfiction called "interview with a mercenary." The commander wanted to call themselves the Fuzzy Bunnies for for the humiliation factor.
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To my knowledge it is a Clan Wolf mech that was only mentioned in "Divide and Conquer" book so it would be fairly new. It was also referred to by the Clans so it may have connections to Clan Snow Raven or Clan Sea Fox depending on the primary configuration.
Now the name of the story unless we have a translation problem. The mech is clearly stated to be a White Raven and a Steel Viper mech.
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Now the name of the story unless we have a translation problem. The mech is clearly stated to be a White Raven and a Steel Viper mech.
"Divided We Fall" is the story and set in 3149. I couldn't find stats for it so I just assumed it was a newer model. Reread the beginning and it states that it is not an Omni and heavily modified. My bad.
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Well, you had a different name for the story earlier- I know the German stuff sometimes renames things. Alaric does the internal monologue about it being a 'relic' of another Clan.
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Will the new Catapult, Griffin, & Commando be the same size as the box set versions? Or will they be slighting smaller and skinnier like Catalyst's Alpha Strike sets?
Very similar to box set, they are built from same CAD files just parted out for IWM production. There could be some differences due to molding and casting.
I just compared them and they look good.
I will get some images up for the Locust Variants.
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Well, you had a different name for the story earlier- I know the German stuff sometimes renames things. Alaric does the internal monologue about it being a 'relic' of another Clan.
Less language error more not checking my facts error. Like any good politician.
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Finally got some new xacto blades and finally assembled the Neanderthal and Jupiter 3. Never really been a fan of the exterior ammo belts but at least it wasn’t like the Cyrus where you had to trim them yourself to fit. Both assembled super cleanly.
I was really tired and low on patience so I kept the Shadow Cat III in the blister. Those legs would have sent me into a rage
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I felt like the Shadowcat III was pretty easy to assemble.
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It’s not bad, no. I was just in no mood for multi-piece chicken walker legs.
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q4 2019 lineup. the feet on the shadow cat are so huge
(http://puu.sh/FUaD6/91ade6da2e.png)
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Yes, that is certainly true.
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Photos of the Locust, Catapult, and Griffin (the last one still in pieces) are up on Facebook and they look really good.
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Photos of the Locust, Catapult, and Griffin (the last one still in pieces) are up on Facebook and they look really good.
Any chance to have them posted here for people who avoid facebook like a plague that it is? :D
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Any chance to have them posted here for people who avoid facebook like a plague that it is? :D
Which Facebook? It looks like IWN hasn't updated their FB in awhile?
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And thank you to Andrew Derton on Facebook...we've got all 3 of the Variants of the Locust, and the CPLT-K2 as well...
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Another thanks to Douglass Hess for the Griffin! Please note...the angle of the mini (it's kind of looking up) makes it look odd. So he posed it next to the Box Set Wolverine for comparison.
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So, did the Catapult come with parts for the C3 variant?
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And thank you to Andrew Derton on Facebook...we've got all 3 of the Variants of the Locust, and the CPLT-K2 as well...
Wait, does the Catapult come with two torsos? Since the K2 is supposed to have MGs or does it simply reuse the standard torso?
They look really great though. Maybe the Griffin looks a bit stiff with its legs that way, but still.
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Catspult only comes with a sngle torso, and the arm posts are just large enough to hold a small magnet if you drill it out.
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So, did the Catapult come with parts for the C3 variant?
No...that is supposed to be a Scrapyard item down the road, as is an Online Exclusive Griffin Variant
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definitely in for two catapults. i will attempt to not buy three locusts and inevitably fail.
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definitely in for two catapults. i will attempt to not buy three locusts and inevitably fail.
LOL I see you conspicuously forgot to mention the Griffin you intend not to buy but will somehow make it into your cart!
I'm completely out of all of them right now. 72 Locusts, 48 Griffins, and 54 Catapults...gone within 2 days.
You...guys...were...
HUNGRY!
I've got a restock order in with IWM...not sure when it will ship though.
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You already got them in?
I put in an order for one of each from my local game store (they just got the ability to order IWM products again) and he said he wasn't sure when they'd actually be available.
Now hopefully Speck can give us some sort of tentative update for 2020's release schedule.
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You already got them in?
I put in an order for one of each from my local game store (they just got the ability to order IWM products again) and he said he wasn't sure when they'd actually be available.
Now hopefully Speck can give us some sort of tentative update for 2020's release schedule.
Yep...twice.
I'm definitely looking forward to the rest of the schedule!
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LOL I see you conspicuously forgot to mention the Griffin you intend not to buy but will somehow make it into your cart!
i have NO idea how it got there
I'm completely out of all of them right now. 72 Locusts, 48 Griffins, and 54 Catapults...gone within 2 days.
You...guys...were...
HUNGRY!
I've got a restock order in with IWM...not sure when it will ship though.
yeah i figured i'd be waiting in line for this one. my wallet will thank me for waiting at least another ten days anyway. you'll have my money soon enough
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I'll have a Locust 1Vb in a day or so. Finishing up a lance of the Broadstreet Bullies, working on my Kraken magnet conversion and just did a quick assembly of these 4. Locust 1V, Locust 1E, Griffin and Catapult. I'll probably get a 3rd Cat to magnetize in the future. The Locust seems to have magnet potential too, as I want to make the LRM amd SRM versions to boot, with the posts big enough I could possibly do it.
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LOL I see you conspicuously forgot to mention the Griffin you intend not to buy but will somehow make it into your cart!
I'm completely out of all of them right now. 72 Locusts, 48 Griffins, and 54 Catapults...gone within 2 days.
You...guys...were...
HUNGRY!
I've got a restock order in with IWM...not sure when it will ship though.
I find those proportions interesting. you mind telling us how you got those numbers? I'd expect more griffins and fewer locust (it's the only mech not in AGOAC, and few people play bugs in my experience, respectively.)
I know you're a businessman and might have secrets, feel free to tell me off if you have to.
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I find those proportions interesting. you mind telling us how you got those numbers? I'd expect more griffins and fewer locust (it's the only mech not in AGOAC, and few people play bugs in my experience, respectively.)
I know you're a businessman and might have secrets, feel free to tell me off if you have to.
He once asked what plastic mechs people would want if he parted out GoAC boxes, and the Locust's popularity was pretty surprising, imo.
Wait, does the Catapult come with two torsos? Since the K2 is supposed to have MGs or does it simply reuse the standard torso?
They look really great though. Maybe the Griffin looks a bit stiff with its legs that way, but still.
Agree on the Griffin. I'm also a little surprised it couldn't be a dual -1N/-1S kit. Maybe it'll look more distinct than I expect.
I'm guessing the Catapult -K2 uses the standard torso - it'd probably be a separate kit if they had to redo the torso, and 2ML+2MG look a lot like 4ML. Just have to ignore the jump jets.
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I find those proportions interesting. you mind telling us how you got those numbers? I'd expect more griffins and fewer locust (it's the only mech not in AGOAC, and few people play bugs in my experience, respectively.)
I know you're a businessman and might have secrets, feel free to tell me off if you have to.
I agree...I originally ordered more Griffins than anything else, they sold the slowest. I put in an emergency restock with IWM who shipped it out the same day, so that's how those numbers hit so high. I've got a 3rd order in with them now too for more of the same.
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So, did the Catapult come with parts for the C3 variant?
Those parts did not get done at same time, so they need printed and molded for future release.
Wait, does the Catapult come with two torsos? Since the K2 is supposed to have MGs or does it simply reuse the standard torso?
They look really great though. Maybe the Griffin looks a bit stiff with its legs that way, but still.
Catapult has one torso, there are some compromises so we can have more variant parts created. Griffins legs same stance as the plastic model. Except you can adjust the pose some.
Any chance to have them posted here for people who avoid facebook like a plague that it is? :D
Working on assembly of the models I got for images.
Now hopefully Speck can give us some sort of tentative update for 2020's release schedule.
It is in flux right now, but will have a August & November releases. Plus some web only items.
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Agree on the Griffin. I'm also a little surprised it couldn't be a dual -1N/-1S kit. Maybe it'll look more distinct than I expect.
I'm guessing the Catapult -K2 uses the standard torso - it'd probably be a separate kit if they had to redo the torso, and 2ML+2MG look a lot like 4ML. Just have to ignore the jump jets.
I had wanted a variant to be with the Griffin but time wise it did not work out. There are some variants planned for it to be completed.
Catapult I mentioned in a earlier post.
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Will the Locust and Griffin be on the online store anytime soon?
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Will the Locust and Griffin be on the online store anytime soon?
They will be up soon on IWM store.
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Speck, I'm curious, is there a way to formally request separate sprues to be placed in the Scrapyard? For example the White Flame missile sprues or the new locust weapon sprues?
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Speck, I'm curious, is there a way to formally request separate sprues to be placed in the Scrapyard? For example the White Flame missile sprues or the new locust weapon sprues?
Usually I just add stuff here and there when asked. New releases tend to wait for awhile until after they have been out. Currently I am holding off adding scrapyard items, due to the new webstore that will finally be coming soon. Covid delayed setting up training since factory staff were not in.
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No worries! I just didn't want to open a floodgate of requests! Much as I like buying whole mechs for parts from you guys, sometimes for a one off, that can get expensive. 😁
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Will parts for the LRM-variant Locust be available?
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I have comparison pictures of the new mechs in the Tips and Tricks part of the forum.
https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=69743.0
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Will parts for the LRM-variant Locust be available?
Nothing has been created as of now, in the future it’s a possibility.
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Will parts for the LRM-variant Locust be available?
If you can't wait, I found that the original-sculpt Madcat's missile pods work well:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8FxNXmqPwDgR2uQr8 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/8FxNXmqPwDgR2uQr8)
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It is paired LRM-5s, so that wouldn't work. It would have to be about the size of the machine gun pods on the unseen Locust.
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Nothing has been created as of now, in the future it’s a possibility.
In my experience, the LRM and SRM Locusts are the most popular. I do hope we get them.
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I bought a spare Locust to magnetize for that purpose. I have launchers that don't feel too out of place.
In my experience, the LRM and SRM Locusts are the most popular. I do hope we get them.
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I think I said I wanted 2 of those K2 Catapults. This must be amended, I need at least a lance.
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It is paired LRM-5s, so that wouldn't work. It would have to be about the size of the machine gun pods on the unseen Locust.
Oh, right, mine was supposed to be a LCT-5V or LCT-1V2 -- rocket launchers, not LRM-5s. Never mind.
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The RL10 version you can kinda fudge with the RTT multi pods, ala the unseen Griffin cylinder. Off the top of my head I can't think of anything small enough from the scrapyard that would fit though.
Oh, right, mine was supposed to be a LCT-5V or LCT-1V2 -- rocket launchers, not LRM-5s. Never mind.
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The RL10 version you can kinda fudge with the RTT multi pods, ala the unseen Griffin cylinder. Off the top of my head I can't think of anything small enough from the scrapyard that would fit though.
You could use the Thor A/C SRM6 sprue, then cut off one of the missiles on each launcher to make yourself an LRM5.
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It is paired LRM-5s, so that wouldn't work. It would have to be about the size of the machine gun pods on the unseen Locust.
The Badger APC has variant parts including LRM5 turrets, they're flat, kinda saucer-looking though. Not sure how'd they look on a Locust, but the size would be about right. There's also the Bushwacker's LRM5, you could snip the arm off that attaches it to the torso. Or use a bit of greenstuff to fill in one of the ports on the SRM6 pods from the Celestial OmniMechs.
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Thorn arms.
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I have a pair of Hachiman tanks that I kitbashed Into a variant. To do that, I cut off the missile pods, but saved them. I think that they will do the trick.
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I had wanted a variant to be with the Griffin but time wise it did not work out. There are some variants planned for it to be completed.
Catapult I mentioned in a earlier post.
IMHO it would be a horrible missed opportunity if these Nuseen kits did not come with parts for the SLDf Royal Variants as well. For some like the Marauder down the line, that is no big deal. For others
Like the Beamer and Griffin it requires an extra part or two that could add an extra buck and a half to retail
I don’t envy the balancing act
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I have some of the Locust variants made in a magnetized format in the Mech of the Fortnite: Locust thread, so its not too hard to find parts that scale decently.
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IIRC, the Royal Griffin is going to be an online exclusive.
But I really hope they make the Royal Beamer is available.
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IIRC, the Royal Griffin is going to be an online exclusive.
But I really hope they make the Royal Beamer is available.
???? sourcee!
Both would be awesome
Throw in Royal Locust and Royal Shadow Hawk and that'd be a fun Royal Lance Pack.
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I want to say Spec talked about that a few pages back when discussing variant parts in the blisters.
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I had wanted a variant to be with the Griffin but time wise it did not work out. There are some variants planned for it to be completed.
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I don't think the Royal Griffin is specified anywhere?
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It's not, but the Royal, the 1S, and the Sparky are the only configurations that use the classic appearance rather than being a Project Phoenix type and don't look outwardly identical to the 1N. Sparky was a unique mech so I don't know if we'll see a mini for it, and if you're making a variant sculpt for the Griffin the Royal is easy to do and something that's going to be in demand.
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Ah, i see your point.
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It has never been confirmed it will be the Royal...but that has been the rumor for some time now.
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I wonder if there will be a mini for the Goliath C / 6M variant with the quad mech turret.
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My store just got their order in, so what I requested was put aside . . . I saw two Locusts still, maybe 1 Catapult, and I grabbed 1 of 2 Griffins.
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I know something like this will never happen, but, man, i wish the Wolverine, when it eventually comes out in metal, has an alternate head-piece.
Like with the laser moved from the right torso back to the head, where it belongs. It's probably the only design from the AGoAC that i personally dislike.
I know, i know, this isn't gonna happen, but i can dream.
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I know what you mean. I'd just buy the Wolverine -1R/3R mini. It already exists, has a chin turret (not quite like the original though), and is a good-looking mech.
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I know what you mean. I'd just buy the Wolverine -1R/3R mini. It already exists, has a chin turret (not quite like the original though), and is a good-looking mech.
It is . . . and you can mod it to be different variants. I made a -3R into a -7M
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Finally got around to ordering the q1 nuseens. Ended up getting two locusts, two catapults, and a griffin. Will snag another catapult and locust if/when the arrow iv bit for the catapult gets made
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I need a Hierofalcon. Please. Pretty please.
Mike
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nuseens assembled pretty well. the locust and griffin are easiest to pose straight out of the blister with the separate feet (i'm going to redo the griffin's legs at some point).
Griffin - parts: 9 (x2 feet, x2 legs, hip, torso, x2 arms, missile pod)
(http://puu.sh/GaA3Z/5cc59875f3.png)
Catapult - parts: 6 (x2 legs, hip, torso, x2 arms whether the C1 or the K2)
(http://puu.sh/GaA62/41637ab083.png)
Locust - parts: 9 (x2 feet, x2 legs, hip, torso, x2 arms, underchin MLas for the 1V or 1Vb or sensor pod looking thing for the 1E)
(http://puu.sh/GaA6E/96d0556461.png)
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You have a Solitaire? I would be curious to see the Solitaire next to the PPC Kat. I know the HLL from the SIE for the PPCs was a popular modification to old Cats.
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it's in one of the rifle cases i use to store minis. no idea which one. i do remember the solitaire being... tall
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Lol . . . mine is not that tall . . . but that is because I stretched the legs out- like 3 pennies worth of stretch.
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I like using the Solitaire cannon as a Plasma cannon proxy.
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That new K2 is very good looking, far better than the old model IMO.
But when you have a new Whammy and Marauder, why are you using a K2? :P
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Because we haven't gotten the new figures for the Warhammer or Marauder yet.
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i tend to be "get one of most things" guy
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But when you have a new Whammy and Marauder, why are you using a K2? :P
K2 jumps, IIRC. Plus it looks cool!
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K2 jumps, IIRC. Plus it looks cool!
Nope, jets get turned to sinks.
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The reason why to have a K2 if you're already getting a Marauder and a Warhammer?
Six PPCs is greater than four. 8)
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i tend to be "get one of most things" guy
Amen to that. I have bought new release stuff (back when my flgs was actually getting Battletech stuff from their suppliers) that I will likely never use, just so I can cross it off the old checklist.
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The reason why to have a K2 if you're already getting a Marauder and a Warhammer?
Six PPCs is greater than four. 8)
Hah! Truth.
Sartris: do you have a paint scheme in mind for the K2?
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camo of some kind probably. i'm not huge on house schemes unless they're very basic.
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Understood.
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Any word on when the up coming releases for the rest of year will be updated?
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Any word on when the up coming releases for the rest of year will be updated?
Something I think many of us was to know. Still waiting on that Defender Warship though.
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Just read through Thermo Police and can’t wait for Hanseatic Crusade coming on Aug. 7.
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Thinking of my Kickstarter forces that will arrive in wave one: I'd like to supplement some IWM Valkyries, Phoenix Hawks, and Wasps in there. I know the Valkyrie was released during a convention wasn't it? Is there any news on the Reseen being available?
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Thinking of my Kickstarter forces that will arrive in wave one: I'd like to supplement some IWM Valkyries, Phoenix Hawks, and Wasps in there. I know the Valkyrie was released during a convention wasn't it? Is there any news on the Reseen being available?
The Classic Valkyrie and Wasp were available at conventions in limited numbers....
The Wasp was actually out, but got pulled due to the Harmony Gold lawsuit...and wasn't put back into distribution. Unsure on when that will happen again.
The Valkyrie however was just about to come out when the suit hit and was placed on indefinite hold. Since then...Anthony updated the back of the miniature, so I'm unsure as to what will happen with the IWM original version...maybe simply update it, but that isn't for me to say.
As far as the Phoenix Hawk...some time soon it will be out, but it hasn't been announced yet. Don't even know if it is planned for this year or the next...there literally has been no word yet.
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Seems rather like there's a question regarding whether anything is going to be released this year.
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Seems rather like there's a question regarding whether anything is going to be released this year.
There is...i know what is coming next, but I can't say because they haven't announced, although I'd dare say 100% for sure 2 of the 3 will NOT disappoint. The 3rd...will just depend on if you like the mech. It is a classic, just some are 'eehhh' with it while others think it is a good one.
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I'd bet the wasps and valks get re-issued fairly fast after KS wave one is out. Unless they're putting in variant bits, then who knows.
How big is the backlog of orders? I put one into my FLGS (https://garagegames.ca/)at the start of the year, and while I know there was the shutdown, six months is a bit extreme.
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There is...i know what is coming next, but I can't say because they haven't announced, although I'd dare say 100% for sure 2 of the 3 will NOT disappoint. The 3rd...will just depend on if you like the mech. It is a classic, just some are 'eehhh' with it while others think it is a good one.
Please don't take this the wrong way, it's not a personal remark and I'm not suggesting that this is an inappropriate post.
That said: I would rather not know anything at all than have someone tell me "I know but I can't tell you, tee hee."
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Please don't take this the wrong way, it's not a personal remark and I'm not suggesting that this is an inappropriate post.
That said: I would rather not know anything at all than have someone tell me "I know but I can't tell you, tee hee."
I was trying to assuage the fears of Money that possibly nothing more was coming out. Wasn't meaning that in ANY way a "tee hee" moment. I don't like that kind of stuff so sorry if it came off like that.
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Seems rather like there's a question regarding whether anything is going to be released this year.
There are things in the works. Some have had unforeseen delays.
I do have some web only releases to add from the backlog this week. Along with last distro release to IWM store.
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Cool.
Also, that comment was not intended as any sort of criticism, merely an observation of the state of things this year.
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Hey speck!!!
I know it's not BattleTech, but could there be an announcement here about the new Chaos Wars web store when it goes up??
I completely missed the announcement the models were going away and did not get to round out my Troglodytes.
Thanks!!
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Would it be possible to have the turrets from the Arrow IV variant Regulator hovertank BT-437 added to the store?
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Cool.
Also, that comment was not intended as any sort of criticism, merely an observation of the state of things this year.
I know, working on getting things back on track.
Hey speck!!!
I know it's not BattleTech, but could there be an announcement here about the new Chaos Wars web store when it goes up??
I completely missed the announcement the models were going away and did not get to round out my Troglodytes.
Thanks!!
I plan to post a update once I have one.
Would it be possible to have the turrets from the Arrow IV variant Regulator hovertank BT-437 added to the store?
I will add it to my list.
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Thanks speck !!!!!!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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There is...i know what is coming next, but I can't say because they haven't announced, although I'd dare say 100% for sure 2 of the 3 will NOT disappoint. The 3rd...will just depend on if you like the mech. It is a classic, just some are 'eehhh' with it while others think it is a good one.
...crossing fingers that one of them will be the nuseen Commando (with some dynamic posing option)...
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...crossing fingers that one of them will be the nuseen Commando (with some dynamic posing option)...
Commando is on the list to do, it will be a part breakdown of the box set pose, so some options will be there.
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1C!
Commando is on the list to do, it will be a part breakdown of the box set pose, so some options will be there.
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There are things in the works. Some have had unforeseen delays.
I do have some web only releases to add from the backlog this week. Along with last distro release to IWM store.
Any of the TRO golden century units getting new sculpts or alt weapons?
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Any of the TRO golden century units getting new sculpts or alt weapons?
At this point no, in the future anything is possible.
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Speck, with the KS Wave Two re-opening, can we get any sort of projection for the next year's quarterly mini schedule? Might determine if I buy more lance packs or wait to get a metal Marauder.
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Why wouldn't you do both?
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Because I do not need as many Wasps (or was it Stingers?) as I do Marauders. I already noticed I had a real lack of IS & Clan light mechs compared to meds & heavies since TT does not use recon typically and if I DO need that specialist I typically take a vehicle. But the Marauder & Warhammer packs come with Wasp, Stingers and Valkyries IIRC which are not designs I really need that many of for play. Use them more in MM than I ever have on table top.
With that said, my recent IWM request through my local store included a Ostscout and Gunslinger Mongoose . . . and I bought a old Mongoose off someone else. Which means when the ComStar pack comes in, I will have 3 Mon . . . geese?
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Mongooses.
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Yeah, I am very interested in knowing what is coming down the pipeline now that the First Wave has shipped. Wasps/Stingers/Valkyries/Phoenix Hawks would be awesome!
Any news Speck?
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Commando is on the list to do, it will be a part breakdown of the box set pose, so some options will be there.
I think a bunch of us are hoping for the running pose in the official art. Maybe some day.
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If the head wasn't molded to the torso it would have been entirely possible with the just released one. I have a picture of a modified one in the classic pose, that required me cutting enough metal from the body to head to allow me to twist it. Its in the tips and hints section.
I think a bunch of us are hoping for the running pose in the official art. Maybe some day.
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Because I do not need as many Wasps (or was it Stingers?) as I do Marauders. I already noticed I had a real lack of IS & Clan light mechs compared to meds & heavies since TT does not use recon typically and if I DO need that specialist I typically take a vehicle. But the Marauder & Warhammer packs come with Wasp, Stingers and Valkyries IIRC which are not designs I really need that many of for play. Use them more in MM than I ever have on table top.
The KS Lance packs:
Command Lance: ARC, MAD, STG and Valk.
Battle Lance: PHK, RFL, WHM and WSP.
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Yeah, I am very interested in knowing what is coming down the pipeline now that the First Wave has shipped. Wasps/Stingers/Valkyries/Phoenix Hawks would be awesome!
Any news Speck?
Having the KS Phoenix Hawk in front of me (it's a great sculpt), I very much hope that we'll get a metal
IWM version in the near future. A 3D/3K (twin large lasers) variant would be icing on the cake...
@ Speck : any idea when the metal Commando & Thunderbolt will show up on the IWM store ?
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At this point no, in the future anything is possible.
I like those odds!
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Thinking of my Kickstarter forces that will arrive in wave one: I'd like to supplement some IWM Valkyries, Phoenix Hawks, and Wasps in there. I know the Valkyrie was released during a convention wasn't it? Is there any news on the Reseen being available?
These are the ones that I want too along with the Stinger.
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Unless they destroyed the wasp and Valkyrie molds it’s a matter of deciding to make them again
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Pretty sure those will be released in metal after the plastic release.
Unless they destroyed the wasp and Valkyrie molds it’s a matter of deciding to make them again
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Any update on when the new website will be running?
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Like everything else in Battletech, it's coming Soon(TM).
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Like everything else in Battletech, it's coming Soon(TM).
Reminds me the items SONY would announce back in the day Soon Only Not Yet! :D
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Unless they destroyed the wasp and Valkyrie molds it’s a matter of deciding to make them again
IIRC it was mentioned before that the sculpts have changed slightly since the IWM ones.
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IIRC it was mentioned before that the sculpts have changed slightly since the IWM ones.
Yes...you are correct. The back of the Valkyrie was redesigned. The Wasp, I'd have to compare them, but if I recall...something was also changed on it.
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So . . . can we get a Hammerhead sculpt soon-ish? Or would putting it on the Fan-Funding track get one produced sooner?
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Any plans to do the Wolverine from AGOAC?
The griffin, locust etc are fantastic in metal
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Speck, with the KS Wave Two re-opening, can we get any sort of projection for the next year's quarterly mini schedule? Might determine if I buy more lance packs or wait to get a metal Marauder.
No exact details, but finishing the first box set mechs plus variants and mechs from RecGuides. Possibly TRO Golden Century mechs.
Having the KS Phoenix Hawk in front of me (it's a great sculpt), I very much hope that we'll get a metal
IWM version in the near future. A 3D/3K (twin large lasers) variant would be icing on the cake...
@ Speck : any idea when the metal Commando & Thunderbolt will show up on the IWM store ?
As of now I have no info about timeline for metal version of the KS mechs, when I have something to share I will.
The recent release should be up in a few weeks or sooner.
Any update on when the new website will be running?
Very soon, I will have an announcement about it in the coming days.
Any plans to do the Wolverine from AGOAC?
The griffin, locust etc are fantastic in metal
Yes, it will be.
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No exact details, but finishing the first box set mechs plus variants and mechs from RecGuides. Possibly TRO Golden Century mechs.
So you are saying GoAC box, RecGuides and TRO-GC with KS minis down the road?
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So you are saying GoAC box, RecGuides and TRO-GC with KS minis down the road?
When I have information about metal versions of the KS mini I will share it, but as of now I have nothing to report.
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No prob! Its a answer at least no matter how much I might wish to see metal Marauder and Warhammer before summer it is an answer which allows for planning on Wave 2 of the KS.
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I hope IWM uses the Marauder Grayson sculpt instead of the standard. The Grayson sculpt has proportions that are much more pleasing to the eye.
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Huh? They are literally the same computer generated file, just in different poses. I have both and did not look closely but I did not notice any different.
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They are, just slightly. Look at the ACs.
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This thread has reached the limit of it's expected longevity and will soon need to be decommissioned and sent off into the sun. We will need a name for it's offspring. Might I suggest:
"What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck"
or
"What's in the Pipeline 2: Speck and the Battlemech Factory"