Author Topic: Han Solo: A Spoilerrific Star Wars Review (Read 25305 times)

Arkansas Warrior · « **Reply #180 on:** 24 June 2018, 00:12:43 »

That’s only true if you’re only counting the original trilogy (if then).

Hellraiser · « **Reply #181 on:** 24 June 2018, 00:32:30 »

Quote from: Ruger on 28 May 2018, 07:23:59

He did go insane for a while...but it's been said he used his rage at his defeat to empower himself with the Dark Side of the force to keep himself alive long enough to get his prosthetic pelvis and legs...

I don't believe it's really been revealed how he got his initial prosthetics, but they were pretty weird...then they were replaced by Mother Tamsin of Dathomir, and then he ended up getting another set from some other allies...the Mandalorians IIRC...

Ruger

IIRC it was along the lines of, he used the force to pull his torso to safety when falling down in the pit & at the bottom of the pit were repair droids that found him & crafted the original spider legs to him.

Or something along those lines. Its been a while since I saw Clone Wars.

I never found any of it very believable but its canon now so I'm trying to get behind it.

I do love that Maul made the Cameo at all & that they used Ray & Sam both for the part.

If they do a sequel I could see him being in it again as a major antagonist.

As for the other actors, I wasn't thrilled w/ the choice for Han mostly because his face doesn't really match Harrison Ford's, but w/e, nothings perfect.

The plot was fine except for the Hyperspace fuel & that it felt a little too much like they tried to cram a ton of history & foreshadowing little trinkets all into one movie.

Also, was that giant Whale/Squid thing in the Maw supposed to be the same Whale/Squid things that are in Rebels?

Hellraiser · « **Reply #182 on:** 24 June 2018, 00:36:11 »

Quote from: glitterboy2098 on 20 June 2018, 20:01:40

funny how the price of the film as quoted by 'fans' goes up 50 million each time there was an announcment of how many millions the film made. to the point people are now saying it cost 450 million, when disney's own releases post-reshoots only put it at around 250. admittedly that was still more than twice the original budget (~120 mil) and about 5 million more than The Force Awakens, which had been the most expensive star wars film ever when it came out at 245 mil.

and with a 265 million take from theaters alone, it actually made a profit. i suspect that it'll end up one of those sleeper hits that do better on DVD and digital download, given what it was up against in theaters. once the angry-fan-noise shifts to the upcoming last film of the sequel trilogy and it becomes available for viewing at home whenever, isuspect a lot of people who skipped it in theaters will pick it up..

Quote from: ANS Kamas P81 on 21 June 2018, 01:44:19

Budget estimates on this one are hard to come by though I'd seen 250 under L&M and 200 for reshoots, the last time around. Then there's marketing expenses, which to use Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix ran 130 million on top of a financial budget estimate of 150 million. Assume Solo had something similar, so 125-150M for advertising costs, which jacks up the budget significantly. Even if the combined budget of only 250 and a marketing of 125, that's still a film losing money - studios get, typically, about half of the gross from ticket sales. Solo would need to break 750 at the box office to have a swing at showing a profit of any kind, and that's not happening.

I read somewhere that it was 250 for Production, but that did not include Marketing Costs which are post production.

Basically they needed to hit the 1/2 billion mark to be seen as a profit maker.

HobbesHurlbut · « **Reply #183 on:** 24 June 2018, 08:16:03 »

Quote from: Hellraiser on 24 June 2018, 00:32:30

The plot was fine except for the Hyperspace fuel & that it felt a little too much like they tried to cram a ton of history & foreshadowing little trinkets all into one movie.

Wasn't the naboo cruiser's hyperdrive leaking when they broke through the blockade in The Phantom Menace?

Hellraiser · « **Reply #184 on:** 24 June 2018, 14:41:57 »

Quote from: HobbesHurlbut on 24 June 2018, 08:16:03

Wasn't the naboo cruiser's hyperdrive leaking when they broke through the blockade in The Phantom Menace?

Hmm, IDK, I've tried to not repeat watch that movie 40x like I did Episode 4 when I was a child, hehe.

I'll have to see about watching it again just to check that part.

Ruger · « **Reply #185 on:** 24 June 2018, 15:05:51 »

Quote from: HobbesHurlbut on 24 June 2018, 08:16:03

Wasn't the naboo cruiser's hyperdrive leaking when they broke through the blockade in The Phantom Menace?

Yes, and...?

The issue isn't that there is hyperdrive fuel...it's that hyperdrive fuel should be relatively cheap as literally hundreds of thousands, if not millions of ships in the Star Wars universe use it all the time. Also, Kessel is renowned as a "Spice Mine" ("We'll be sent to the Spice Mines of Kessel! Smashed into who knows what!" - C3PO, Star Wars: Episode IV A New Hope), so just when was "coaxium", a hyperspace fuel, introduced as coming from Kessel, and why? Why not just use glitterstim spice, which has already entered the new canon due to being mentioned in two or three novels...and for which Kessel was known to be mined in the old EU?

If needed, you could use the plot device that what they are smuggling has a time limit before it can't be refined (I actually seem to recall some spice having this issue in the old EU anyways) to make that part of the plot work...otherwise, coaxium doesn't make much sense...unless, I suppose, it's supposed to be a super-fuel additive, kind of like shooting laughing gas into a car's engine supercharges it, but the movie didn't really make it sound like that...

Ruger

glitterboy2098 · « **Reply #186 on:** 24 June 2018, 16:57:58 »

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Coaxium

it's actually not a "fuel" in itself, but rather used as a lining for hyperdrive reactors.

to me it sounds like it is some sort of catalyst making a more standard fuel (like perhaps the Clouzon-36 seen in SW:Rebels, or the Rhydonium seen in SW:CloneWars as well as SW:Rebels) more effective.

since we see a tiny bit of it used to boost reactor performance, perhaps the thin lining is meant to be an ablative set up usually, with minute amounts wearing off to support the reactions.

and i don't have a problem with Kessel producing something other than spice.. anything as big as a planet is going to have multiple industries, not just one. presumably kessel's main industry is mines for Spice, while the Coaxium mine is a singular site run because coaxium is so valuable and the pike syndicate wants every source of profit exploited.

Dubble_g · « **Reply #187 on:** 02 July 2018, 19:56:37 »

Finally saw this as it was only just released in Japan (June 29). Wrote a review, but it's kinda long for a forum post:

https://one-way-mirror.blogspot.com/2018/07/solo-mostly-harmless-story.html

marauder648 · « **Reply #188 on:** 08 July 2018, 08:50:58 »

And I think folks should see this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=PW4OIHDsWsM

Its stupid and it appealed to me on many levels because i'm a big kid.

Fat Guy · « **Reply #189 on:** 10 July 2018, 14:11:15 »

It's confirmed that Billy Dee Wiliams will reprise his role of Lando in Star Wars Episode IX! :clap:

DOC_Agren · « **Reply #190 on:** 10 July 2018, 15:56:37 »

So does that mean that Lando is who Leia was hoping would come to the rescue. Or is he going to be connected to those at the Casino

Weirdo · « **Reply #191 on:** 10 July 2018, 16:53:39 »

Maybe both. Maybe neither.

glitterboy2098 · « **Reply #192 on:** 10 July 2018, 16:54:01 »

i don;t think we should start speculating based on the details of SW:IX.. because when we tried to predict TLJ's story based on stuff from ANH, we got it totally wrong. and odds are SW:IX is going to be much the same given the switch of director and writer.. it'll flow from TLJ storywise, but we can't assume any given line, location, or situation is meant as foreshadowing. (of course, this applied to the original trilogy and the prequels as well.. who could have predicted ESB or ROTJ based just on ANH?)

the only thing we can be sure is happening is that The Resistance is going to have been (or is in the process of) rebuilding.. if it hasn't rebuilt already after a timeskip (personally that is what i hope) we may be seeing something akin to the SW:Rebels stuff.. seeking out resources and allies, resulting on a major clash with the ascendant First Order.

Sharpnel · « **Reply #193 on:** 10 July 2018, 18:33:25 »

Quote from: Fat Guy on 10 July 2018, 14:11:15

It's confirmed that Billy Dee Wiliams will reprise his role of Lando in Star Wars Episode IX! :clap:

After meeting him last summer, I don't know how much work he is going to do in the film. He wa not looking well, even for a man his age. I expect a very limited performance from him.

DOC_Agren · « **Reply #194 on:** 10 July 2018, 19:32:01 »

I will only say, what every role they give him in the film, I hope isn't passing one, or a big middle finger to the fans

Wrangler · « **Reply #195 on:** 10 July 2018, 20:43:29 »

Given track record with the main core films, it's hard to say if character will survive this one. They've been steadily bumping off all the old main characters.

Deadborder · « **Reply #196 on:** 10 July 2018, 23:26:18 »

Persoanlly I suspect Lando will be filling some of the roles in the story originally intended for Leia.

Wrangler · « **Reply #197 on:** 11 July 2018, 13:50:20 »

Has there been any consensus if fandom starting get into the new batch of Star Wars characters?

Well Rey and Finn have show promised, sometimes I have trouble feeling they're being written well enough carry on the movie franchise.

glitterboy2098 · « **Reply #198 on:** 11 July 2018, 14:57:01 »

newer fans and the more casual fans seem to love them. Rey and Poe and Finn especially, less so Kylo for most of them.

older fans seem to be more inclined to dislike them, even if they enjoy the films and new content in general.

so pretty much the usual whenever a long running franchise gets new content and new major characters. we saw the same with the Prequels. the main difference is the internet and social media has matured enough that reactionary fans can be very vocal about it, and be heard by non-fans.

Deadborder · « **Reply #199 on:** 11 July 2018, 15:58:51 »

It cannot be stressed enough how many new people have come into the franchise through the new movies. Adjusting for inflation, Eps VII and VIII have the two highest takes of any Star Wars films in their first runs. (Where you remember that the older trilogies have had the advantage of multiple theatrical runs, different releases and so on)

The new characters (Rey, Kylo, Finn, Poe) have been very popular with these new fans, younger fans, those that entered the franchise in the years after Ep III and a not inconsiderable portion of older fans as well. They're not topping polls as yet, but that's hardly a fiar metric. The older characters, especially the original trilogy characters, have the advantage of being ingrained into our consciousness for four decades. They are, however, allready passing most prequel trilogy characters.

Now speaking as a cranky old man who saw Ep IV before he was born, Rey is probably my favouritest Star Wars character ever.

ANS Kamas P81 · « **Reply #200 on:** 19 July 2018, 12:25:25 »

Meanwhile...

https://twitter.com/HamillHimself/status/1019645492332933120/photo/1

DOC_Agren · « **Reply #201 on:** 19 July 2018, 14:26:48 »

Quote from: ANS Kamas P81 on 19 July 2018, 12:25:25

Meanwhile...

https://twitter.com/HamillHimself/status/1019645492332933120/photo/1

wait to see the role it will have :thumbsup: >:D ;D

Wrangler · « **Reply #202 on:** 19 July 2018, 14:47:35 »

I think highly likely he will be in the film because the Force Ghost thing.

Giving timely advice like.
Don't Do that Rey, he'll cut your hand off.
Oh bother! Just do it, see for yourself!

Deadborder · « **Reply #203 on:** 19 July 2018, 15:44:48 »

Quote from: ANS Kamas P81 on 19 July 2018, 12:25:25

Meanwhile...

https://twitter.com/HamillHimself/status/1019645492332933120/photo/1

Mark Hamil trolling people on Twitter?

Never!

Triptych · « **Reply #204 on:** 20 July 2018, 09:44:09 »

Quote from: Fat Guy on 10 July 2018, 14:11:15

It's confirmed that Billy Dee Wiliams will reprise his role of Lando in Star Wars Episode IX! :clap:

If the past two movies are any indication, it means Lando will die like a punk just like the Han and Luke. ::)

Deadborder · « **Reply #205 on:** 20 July 2018, 17:41:35 »

Quote from: Triptych on 20 July 2018, 09:44:09

If the past two movies are any indication, it means Lando will die like a punk just like the Han and Luke. ::)

I'd say that neither "murdered by your own son while trying to save him" and "sacrificing yourself to enable the resistance to escape" qualifies as such

Besides which, it's not like the pair of them and Leia were repeatedly maimed, mutilated and killed in a book that amoutned to nothing but author fetish torture porn. That'd just be stupid.

Triptych · « **Reply #206 on:** 22 July 2018, 05:12:24 »

Quote from: Deadborder on 20 July 2018, 17:41:35

I'd say that neither "murdered by your own son while trying to save him" and "sacrificing yourself to enable the resistance to escape" qualifies as such

I wasnt referring to their causes, but how they went out.

1. Han walks onto a bridge to reconcile with his son, gets cheapshotted with a light saber, and falls off into a fiery core.
2. Luke uses his force projection to pretend he's on another planet, slips off the rock he was meditating on and turns into a force ghost.