Author Topic: Helm Technology Applications Board: Davion (Read 4934 times)

(SMD)MadCow · « **Reply #30 on:** 14 February 2019, 15:14:57 »

Quote from: Vehrec on 14 February 2019, 12:22:34

So, I'm gonna attempt to list all the 'Mechs in need of upgrading.

Atlas
Centurion
Dervish
Enforcer
Griffin
Hatchetman
Hornet
Jaegermech
Locust
Marauder (II?)
Phoenix Hawk
Rifleman
ShadowHawk
Valkyrie
Wasp
Wolverine

Can add the Kintaro being made on Ozawa and Longbow on Crofton.
If no 4th Succession War then Davion still has Quentin and can add the Victor.
*And that's not counting the out of production stuff that's laying around like the Javelin, Blackjack, and Whitworth (refit facility but no actual factory).

KaiserDunk · « **Reply #31 on:** 14 February 2019, 15:53:20 »

Quote from: (SMD)MadCow on 14 February 2019, 15:14:57

Can add the Kintaro being made on Ozawa and Longbow on Crofton.
If no 4th Succession War then Davion still has Quentin and can add the Victor.
*And that's not counting the out of production stuff that's laying around like the Javelin, Blackjack, and Whitworth (refit facility but no actual factory).

The Javelin (as the Fire Javelin) is still in production on Panpour by Jalastar Aerospace, if I'm not mistaken.

(SMD)MadCow · « **Reply #32 on:** 14 February 2019, 16:15:32 »

Quote from: KaiserDunk on 14 February 2019, 15:53:20

The Javelin (as the Fire Javelin) is still in production on Panpour by Jalastar Aerospace, if I'm not mistaken.

They were making licensed Centurions and didn't make Javelins until 3055, starting with the 10P model.

Vehrec · « **Reply #33 on:** 14 February 2019, 16:19:47 »

Quote from: KaiserDunk on 14 February 2019, 15:53:20

The Javelin (as the Fire Javelin) is still in production on Panpour by Jalastar Aerospace, if I'm not mistaken.

I think you are mistaken about the Javelin, and all Fire Javelins are conversions-though the Victor was My Bad, I was sure it was on the list, but I forgot to actually include it.

The Longbow, on the other hand, I can't find any evidence of where it's factories are on Sarna-if I couldn't track down a factory, it wasn't going on The List.

(SMD)MadCow · « **Reply #34 on:** 14 February 2019, 17:31:48 »

Quote from: Vehrec on 14 February 2019, 16:19:47

I think you are mistaken about the Javelin, and all Fire Javelins are conversions-though the Victor was My Bad, I was sure it was on the list, but I forgot to actually include it.

The Longbow, on the other hand, I can't find any evidence of where it's factories are on Sarna-if I couldn't track down a factory, it wasn't going on The List.

Javelin, TRO 3050U page 10.
Longbow OW, Starcorps on Crofton per TRO 3039.

*There is also the Devastator 1D, there's a blurb about it being prototyped by NAIS and put into moderate production, unknown where.
And the ~~Emperor 5A~~, I keep.forgetting Starcorps doesn't build new factories until 3057.
And apparently Davion has a large number of downgraded Mongoose per the TRO 3039.

Dave Talley · « **Reply #35 on:** 14 February 2019, 22:11:34 »

MarcusSmythe

Marauder MAD-4D "Double Marauder"

oh my gawd, I am in love
thats a beast

Smegish · « **Reply #36 on:** 14 February 2019, 22:45:11 »

It is a mean bastard, just a bit light on ammo for my taste.

Assuming this moves on to the other factions, I think I'm going to personally limit myself to sharing no more than 2 techs between each faction, just for some variety. Otherwise every mech starts looking rather same-y. Course I also went with some really odd choices which helped.

marcussmythe · « **Reply #37 on:** 14 February 2019, 22:46:40 »

It would likely be a better mech withiut the MLas, usng that tonna for ammuniton.

But -perfect- is boring, and my designs here ride the edge of overly minmaxed, anyway.

Andras · « **Reply #38 on:** 14 February 2019, 22:51:58 »

Quote from: KaiserDunk on 14 February 2019, 12:48:19

The top to bottom overhaul of the venerable Shadow Hawk.

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Shadow Hawk SHD-5D Mass: 55 tons Tech Base: Inner Sphere Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Tournament Legal Era: Clan Invasion Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A Production Year: 3070 Cost: 10,439,457 C-Bills Battle Value: 1,422 Chassis: Kallon Type VII Endo-Steel Power Plant: CoreTek 275 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h Jump Jets: Rawlings 55 Jump Capacity: 150 meters Armor: Starshield A Standard Armor w/ CASE Armament: 1 Imperator Code Red LB 10-X AC 1 Federated 10-Shot LRM-10 w/ Artemis IV FCS 2 Intek Hellborer Medium Lasers 1 Federated SuperStreak Streak SRM-2 Manufacturer: Kallon Industries Primary Factory: Nanking Communications System: Neil 6000 Targeting and Tracking System: Federated Hunter ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 91 points 3.00 Internal Locations: 5 LA, 5 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL Engine: XL Fusion Engine 275 8.00 Walking MP: 5 Running MP: 8 Jumping MP: 5 Standard Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT 2.50 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 10(20) 0.00 Gyro: Standard 3.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H Armor: Standard Armor AV - 160 10.00 CASE Locations: 1 RT 0.50 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 18 25 Center Torso (rear) 6 L/R Torso 13 21 L/R Torso (rear) 5 L/R Arm 9 15 L/R Leg 13 19 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Streak SRM-2 HD 2 1 1.50 LRM-10 RT 4 2 5.00 Artemis IV FCS RT - 1 1.00 LB 10-X AC LT 2 6 11.00 Medium Laser RA 3 1 1.00 Medium Laser LA 3 1 1.00 @Streak SRM-2 (50) CT - 1 1.00 @LB 10-X (Slug) (10) RT - 1 1.00 @LRM-10 (Artemis) (12) RT - 1 1.00 @LB 10-X (Cluster) (10) LT - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 5 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 5 Points: 14 5j 3 3 2 0 2 0 Structure: 3 Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, IF 1, FLK 1/1/1

I don't like the SHD. The SSRM2 is a net negative. It uses up 2.5t, has a ton of ammo (that you'll never fire off entirely) sitting in the CT, and only provides two 2pt hits. A pair of extra MedLas work just as well and you will still never overheat it unless you jump and fire everything including the LRMs. And then use the last 0.5t for CASE.

KaiserDunk · « **Reply #39 on:** 14 February 2019, 23:32:12 »

Based on the feedback regarding the Javelin in Davion service, I went back and re-did it as a field refit of the existing Fire Javelin 'Mechs in service.