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Re: Mech of the week: War Dog WR-DG-*
« Reply #30 on: 23 August 2018, 19:25:28 »
Caeser's gauss rifle is in the torso . . . and also thin skinned, but whatever floats your boat!
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Re: Mech of the week: War Dog WR-DG-*
« Reply #31 on: 24 August 2018, 09:54:23 »
and also thin skinned, but whatever floats your boat!

That depends on your Caesar.
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Re: Mech of the week: War Dog WR-DG-*
« Reply #32 on: 24 August 2018, 10:00:44 »
Dunno, Julius went internal from a bunch of small hits.
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Re: Mech of the week: War Dog WR-DG-*
« Reply #33 on: 24 August 2018, 10:17:21 »
Dunno, Julius went internal from a bunch of small hits.

Funny fact, the Brutus has a pair of large lasers, just enough to crit the rear side torsos of a Caesar.
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Re: Mech of the week: War Dog WR-DG-*
« Reply #34 on: 24 August 2018, 10:21:54 »
It would be funny to learn that was the point . . .
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Re: Mech of the week: War Dog WR-DG-*
« Reply #35 on: 24 August 2018, 11:02:13 »
Now, if it's possible to stencil "Et" and "Tu" on the sides of the barrels...
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Re: Mech of the week: War Dog WR-DG-*
« Reply #36 on: 27 August 2018, 12:43:56 »
Funny fact, the Brutus has a pair of large lasers, just enough to crit the rear side torsos of a Caesar.

Much to my disappointment, at best a Brutus only generates 20 hits (4x LRM, 2x LL, 14 SRM), 3 short of neatly completing the joke.
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Re: Mech of the week: War Dog WR-DG-*
« Reply #37 on: 04 August 2020, 14:00:05 »
The War Dog . . . gets a cousin?

The Coyotes at the beginning of the Golden Century revisited a Star League prototype design to create a new mech for their touman- the Masauwu, the Hopi Spirit of Death.  The name keeps with the Coyote's AmerInd background . . .

 . . . and the machine is pretty brutal.  Unfortunately for Clan players, the Coyotes lost interest for presumably the Omnis they rolled out.  The Masauwu follows the same engine/speed profile with JJs, has ECM & AMS, and a similar mix of ballistic, energy and missile weapons.  But the differences make it a more fearsome machine- it mounts 12.5 tons of armor, but its standard armor- and not unbalanced for the arm.  The skeleton uses Clan ES while the War Dog uses std.  The 'main gun' is a LB-10X rather than a Gauss Rifle with 3t ammo (saving a total of 5t comparatively) backed up by two large pulse lasers rather than varying sizes.  The Streaks are full systems rather than OS and a ERSL is the only other back up weapon.

This design fits in nicely with other Clan secondliners we already knew about with the same profiles- the Grizzly, Guillotine IIC, Orion IIC, Marauder IIC, and Warhammer IIC- it neither overshadows (powercreep) or underwhelms in comparison.  Heck, its got a great niche in that IIRC it is about the only Clan heavy secondline from that period that has a LB-10X.
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Re: Mech of the week: War Dog WR-DG-*
« Reply #38 on: 05 August 2020, 14:48:02 »
Yeah I had to pull out my 3055 and read up on the War Dog!  Now I have a place for my War Dog miniature  :D

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Re: Mech of the week: War Dog WR-DG-*
« Reply #39 on: 05 August 2020, 19:09:51 »
The War Dog . . . gets a cousin?

The Coyotes at the beginning of the Golden Century revisited a Star League prototype design to create a new mech for their touman- the Masauwu, the Hopi Spirit of Death.  The name keeps with the Coyote's AmerInd background . . .

 . . . and the machine is pretty brutal.  Unfortunately for Clan players, the Coyotes lost interest for presumably the Omnis they rolled out.  The Masauwu follows the same engine/speed profile with JJs, has ECM & AMS, and a similar mix of ballistic, energy and missile weapons.  But the differences make it a more fearsome machine- it mounts 12.5 tons of armor, but its standard armor- and not unbalanced for the arm.  The skeleton uses Clan ES while the War Dog uses std.  The 'main gun' is a LB-10X rather than a Gauss Rifle with 3t ammo (saving a total of 5t comparatively) backed up by two large pulse lasers rather than varying sizes.  The Streaks are full systems rather than OS and a ERSL is the only other back up weapon.

This design fits in nicely with other Clan secondliners we already knew about with the same profiles- the Grizzly, Guillotine IIC, Orion IIC, Marauder IIC, and Warhammer IIC- it neither overshadows (powercreep) or underwhelms in comparison.  Heck, its got a great niche in that IIRC it is about the only Clan heavy secondline from that period that has a LB-10X.
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Re: Mech of the week: War Dog WR-DG-*
« Reply #40 on: 05 August 2020, 19:20:50 »
It's from TRO: Golden Century.
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Re: Mech of the week: War Dog WR-DG-*
« Reply #41 on: 05 August 2020, 19:22:28 »
Golden Century, uses Plog's art . . . but yeah, I plan on saying the Coyotes that left the Homeworlds with the Crusader Wolves brought one back- just for fun in my Epsilon Galaxy cluster- Clan warriors in 'slow' mechs supplemented by those taken from the Lyran supply.  Give it to a McKibben . . . and I really want for 3150 to pull the LPL for ERLL & AES in that arm.

But I do love the way it follows the same pattern of the original War Dog and fits into the fluff.
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Re: Mech of the week: War Dog WR-DG-*
« Reply #42 on: 10 August 2020, 21:01:06 »
Golden Century, uses Plog's art . . . but yeah, I plan on saying the Coyotes that left the Homeworlds with the Crusader Wolves brought one back- just for fun in my Epsilon Galaxy cluster- Clan warriors in 'slow' mechs supplemented by those taken from the Lyran supply.  Give it to a McKibben . . . and I really want for 3150 to pull the LPL for ERLL & AES in that arm.

But I do love the way it follows the same pattern of the original War Dog and fits into the fluff.

Sorry but I don't agree. To me, it doesn't feel like a War Dog at all. So, we're supposed to look at this as a design that looks like a near-clone of the War Dog, until you get up close and notice the differences in weapon load and armour layout? (and oh yeah, the fact that it's jump-capable).

I would have had absolutely no problem with a War Dog (II)C called by this name.

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Re: Mech of the week: War Dog WR-DG-*
« Reply #43 on: 10 August 2020, 21:20:20 »
Given that in-universe the Masauwa was designed before the War Dog, it makes sense that it's got a bunch of differences.
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Re: Mech of the week: War Dog WR-DG-*
« Reply #44 on: 10 August 2020, 21:50:18 »
Tech base . . . you have Ballistic in one arm, pulse lasers in the other, missiles in legs, ECM and AMS?  Clan tech let it have the big guns, IS designs made it step down.

We do not know if the original prototype had a laser in the torso or it was done to back up the 'weaker' arm.  Part of the problem is the checking of the design as originally entered . . . get rid of some of the abundant Gauss ammo and you could strip that torso MPL to make a 2nd LPL in the arm.

Honestly, this is a sort of 'hard point' customization we talk about to limit some of the crazy customizations possible from the rules standpoint.
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Re: Mech of the week: War Dog WR-DG-*
« Reply #45 on: 10 August 2020, 22:07:02 »
Given that in-universe the Masauwa was designed before the War Dog, it makes sense that it's got a bunch of differences.

How different is the War Dog that was eventually built in the Inner Sphere from the Star League-era specs that were recovered from Camelot Command?

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Re: Mech of the week: War Dog WR-DG-*
« Reply #46 on: 10 August 2020, 22:07:20 »
Given that in-universe the Masauwa was designed before the War Dog, it makes sense that it's got a bunch of differences.

Actually no, the War Dog was a star league era design that was rediscovered and only slightly altered in the 3050s. Specifically, a small pulse laser was added to the back of the head.
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Re: Mech of the week: War Dog WR-DG-*
« Reply #47 on: 16 August 2020, 09:52:31 »
Yup, that's what I'd do with a ton.
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Re: Mech of the week: War Dog WR-DG-*
« Reply #48 on: 16 August 2020, 10:08:12 »
Funny fact, the Brutus has a pair of large lasers, just enough to crit the rear side torsos of a Caesar.
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Re: Mech of the week: War Dog WR-DG-*
« Reply #49 on: 16 August 2020, 11:28:59 »
Actually no, the War Dog was a star league era design that was rediscovered and only slightly altered in the 3050s. Specifically, a small pulse laser was added to the back of the head.

It was a Stat League era blueprint. They didn't actually put it into production.
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Re: Mech of the week: War Dog WR-DG-*
« Reply #50 on: 16 August 2020, 14:51:45 »
I have to say name they used was unique.  I really didn't like it.  I would never had associated the design to that.
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Re: Mech of the week: War Dog WR-DG-*
« Reply #51 on: 16 August 2020, 17:09:03 »
It was a Stat League era blueprint. They didn't actually put it into production.

Snord's Irregulars also recovered several chassis, so it wasn't completely on paper.

Regardless, you said "the Masauwa was designed before the War Dog". Not that it was built first.
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