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Off Topic and Technical Support => Off Topic => Topic started by: JadeHellbringer on 15 February 2023, 17:18:01
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(Title reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPOZbG7ibEE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPOZbG7ibEE)
New league year has begun, the rest of the seven-layer dip is gone, time to get things going for the next season of zaniness and inanity.
So. Chiefs won it, Eagles made a great show of it (their defense needs to look in the mirror about that second half...), Tom Brady is finished, Aaron Rodgers is begging for attention, and Nathaniel Hackett is still holding on to a couple of timeouts just in case.
Let's do this thing, people. NFL 2023-24.
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What's his face has some court time to attend to before preseason.... No more mention about What's his face's toe (you know, the one who likes to roll his Porche in Ohio Backwoods country)...
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It will be interesting to see what Seattle can do with all their picks this upcoming draft and with Russ and Wagner off their cap they might even be able to make a few moves.
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Anybody want a Derek Carr?
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Hmmmm...
I mean the guy is actually a better QB than he seems to get credit for but Seattle already has Geno and I think they are going to try and make more of an effort to find out if Drew Locke is worth anything. Plus I see them going for a QB in the draft rather than free agency if they decide Geno is not the future(he probably isn't).
There's been cases made for him to go to the Panthers, Saints, and even Jets though. I can see any of those being reasonably likely as he seems to be an upgrade over what they have there.
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Great title, Hellbie!
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A title on another forum I'm on is "Will no one rid me of these meddlesome Chiefs?" and I chuckle every time I see it
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(Title reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPOZbG7ibEE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPOZbG7ibEE)
New league year has begun, the rest of the seven-layer dip is gone, time to get things going for the next season of zaniness and inanity.
So. Chiefs won it, Eagles made a great show of it (their defense needs to look in the mirror about that second half...), Tom Brady is finished, Aaron Rodgers is begging for attention, and Nathaniel Hackett is still holding on to a couple of timeouts just in case.
Let's do this thing, people. NFL 2023-24.
You sure that Aaron Rodgers isn't finished? Seems like he's at least baked. :D
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You got that backslash at the start of the thread title, lol.
So yeah, how long before Rodgers retires? Any bets?
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Id like the Chiefs more if Mahomes' brother wasnt so damn annoying...
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I didn't even know he had a brother; how is he annoying?
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He uses his proximity to fame to amplify his social media presence and is generally obnoxious about it
Basically what a lot of people are like at games and on Twitter with much more attention
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I didn't even know he had a brother; how is he annoying?
He was banned from home games. It’s not how it’s how much.
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Tagging in.. Not a Late Hit
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Hellbie ends the old thread the day that Calvin Ridley applies for reinstatement. Well played sir, well played.
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Hellbie ends the old thread the day that Calvin Ridley applies for reinstatement. Well played sir, well played.
Coincidental, but funny regardless. ;D
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/02/27/commanders-cut-carson-wentz/#comments
Wentz wentz'ed.
I giggled at the comment mentioning Sachi Brown and Paul DePodesta (who is still there in CLE and nobody still knows what the hell he does in the front office to this day)
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All these mock drafts have Brian Branch in the 1st round and it keeps making me do a double take to see if one of our moderators is going to be drafted....
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https://www.theonion.com/report-87-of-americans-unaware-they-have-been-chosen-1819577884
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All these mock drafts have Brian Branch in the 1st round and it keeps making me do a double take to see if one of our moderators is going to be drafted....
For what it's worth, it throws me as well.
...hopefully it throws a general manager long enough for a bank error. I have a Mercenaries Kickstarter to fund. >:D
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For what it's worth, it throws me as well.
...hopefully it throws a general manager long enough for a bank error. I have a Mercenaries Kickstarter to fund. >:D
It would be best if they wait until you are in the building and the GM just stares at you then looks at the scout, "This guy is a safety?"
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It would be best if they wait until you are in the building and the GM just stares at you then looks at the scout, "This guy is a safety?"
I actually got asked twice by my high school football coach to play tight end, but since it would have meant leaving hockey... nope. Never even considered it.
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Bears ‘making moves’ in terms of draft trades.
I put it in quotes cause they’ll find a way to [forum redacted] it up.
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Bears ‘making moves’ in terms of draft trades.
I put it in quotes cause they’ll find a way to [forum redacted] it up.
Yeah, that feeling remains on the back of my mind too. :-[
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I'll go the other direction- absolutely impressed with what the Bears did here. They're committed to Justin Fields, clearly- so no need to draft a QB early (with some rather good ones available, mind you!). So, if the players you want are going to be lower in the draft rankings anyway, why not trade down and see who you can fleece? Carolina definitely needs a new QB (safe to say the Baker Mayfield experiment is over? ;) ), and were willing to throw a wheelbarrow of goodies back for that pick- cool. Even if every pick comes up bust (and I'm betting against THAT), they got a fantastic WR for Fields to work with. Very good move for Chicago- and let's not forget that it was the late-game antics of Lovie Smith that awarded them this opportunity to begin with, which just makes me smile.
There's no sue things in the NFL draft, I admit. Want proof? This is the third time this century the first pick has been traded prior to the draft. The resulting players were Michael Vick (say what you will about him off the field, but he was a game-changing player), and Jared Goff (say what you... you know what, he's Jared Goff.) This could go pear-shaped for the Bears, who knows? But they're swinging for the fences for now, and I love it.
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Spoken like a true not Bears fan. 8)
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Spoken like a true not Bears fan. 8)
Fair. Let me ask you this then.
What should the Bears have done, then? First overall pick, what should they have done with that pick?
To me, the options are:
1) Draft a QB. This essentially says that the Justin Fields experiment is a failure and they're starting over- even if it's not meant that way, it's how it would come across to any observer, Fields included.
2) Draft at a different position. QBs are the meat of this draft, and any other position player is probably not going until after the top... call it five? In which case, using the #1 pick to take a #6 player means you could have traded down and gotten more out of that pick, and didn't.
3) Trade down, let someone else grab the QB you didn't want/need anyway, reap the rewards of their insistence.
I don't know what the Bears' draft will look like, and I doubt even after the draft ends we'll have a real picture of how well they did for a few years, until those players have had enough time to sink or swim. But based on what they got out of this, as of today at least, this looks like an absolute win for them- possibly for the Panthers as well, depending on how well they do at developing their next QB (Stroud?).
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I think this is a great trade for the Bears. The receivers in this class appear weaker than last year and with the focus needed to be on evaluating Fields, Moore should give him a capable WR to do that. Strengthen the line and while the offense may not be a top-10, it should be capable to see if Fields is the future or he's just the latest version of Tim Tebow.
Next year, they have 2 number ones. If Fields works out, great, they can add two premium players. If not, they can start the QB cycle over again and their rookie won't be crippled by a bare-cupboard offense.
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Fair. Let me ask you this then.
What should the Bears have done, then? First overall pick, what should they have done with that pick?
To me, the options are:
1) Draft a QB. This essentially says that the Justin Fields experiment is a failure and they're starting over- even if it's not meant that way, it's how it would come across to any observer, Fields included.
2) Draft at a different position. QBs are the meat of this draft, and any other position player is probably not going until after the top... call it five? In which case, using the #1 pick to take a #6 player means you could have traded down and gotten more out of that pick, and didn't.
3) Trade down, let someone else grab the QB you didn't want/need anyway, reap the rewards of their insistence.
I don't know what the Bears' draft will look like, and I doubt even after the draft ends we'll have a real picture of how well they did for a few years, until those players have had enough time to sink or swim. But based on what they got out of this, as of today at least, this looks like an absolute win for them- possibly for the Panthers as well, depending on how well they do at developing their next QB (Stroud?).
My comment was more towards being optimistic rather than anything they should have done differently.
I don’t know enough about draft calculus to say one way or another.
But I know enough about the Bears that they will make the wrong choice nearly every single time, and never to actually get excited about the things they do.
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sounds like it's past time to quit that narcotic
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sounds like it's past time to quit that narcotic
Says a Marik fan...
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bold of you to assume that the breakup era wasn't my absolute favorite setting in BT history. i'm *delighted* by dumpster fires.
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Well the Bears have been a dumpster fire for a long time now, rivaling the Browns and the Lions, so look no further.
For most Bears fans, we've been disappointed and let down by the team for so long, that we've been cautious anytime there's some supposed good news. It's like Pavlov's dogs, we've been conditioned to accept defeat and disaster to the point where its now ingrained. xp
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i'm *delighted* by dumpster fires.
And you're not a Browns fan? ;)
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Man, what's going on in Philly? Superbowl loser hangover looks rough.
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Is Rodgers the new Flash Gordon?
https://www.nfl.com/news/packers-qb-aaron-rodgers-says-intention-is-to-play-for-new-york-jets-in-2023
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And you're not a Browns fan? ;)
i said dumpster fires, not the conflagration from Backdraft
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The Bears - Panthers trade was awesome for the Bears. Now will they pick wisely with all those draft picks? Stay tuned. >:D
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bold of you to assume that the breakup era wasn't my absolute favorite setting in BT history. i'm *delighted* by dumpster fires.
I'm not sure one can be a Marik fan and NOT be a fan of chaos. If you're looking for an orderly faction that doesn't define itself by regularly nut-punching itself into oblivion as a hobby, go play Davion. Leave the gibbering lunacy to the purple-clad professionals. ^-^
As for this trade... the thing with a trade this big, for this many draft picks, is that we're going to be waiting AGES to find out if it really paid off. Will the Bears make good use of those picks? Dunno- past precedent says they're not so great at it. Remember though that at the time, the famed Herschel Walker trade was seen as an absolute bust for Dallas, a near-cataclysmic blunder. Spoiler: It panned out juuuuust fine for the Cowboys, and was not so great for the Vikings. It just took a while to realize it.
If we look back in on this trade in a few years, Carolina's new QB is doing well and the Bears are a shambling wreck, then yeah, we have our answer. If the Bears go on a tear thanks to the influx of young talent, that'll tell us our answer. For now... all we can do is go on whether the return- on paper- is worth it, and as a simple numbers game of 'did you get a lot of picks for the one you gave up', the Bears did very well here.
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FOR SALE
One used FOOTBALL TEAM. DC area, disgruntled established fanbase
Asking a few billion dollars OBO.
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:D ;D :o 8) >:D :thumbsup: Well it looks like a lot of crazy crap happening in the NFL. Well there hope for Detroit Lions I like Campbell and Holmes . I say this I love whats happening in Packer land with Rodger. :toofunny:
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Man, the Broncos just lost their best QB (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/36079895/john-elway-no-longer-broncos-contract-ends).
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Man, the Broncos just lost their best QB (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/36079895/john-elway-no-longer-broncos-contract-ends).
Damm, I thought he always would be there...
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I won't lie, I'm torn on this. I mean, there's no question that he's the most influential person involved with the team over my lifetime, on and off the field, but... man, outside of bringing in Manning, his time as exec was pretty mixed at-best. Some of those moves- Paxton Lynch, for example- are duds of the highest order.
Thanks for everything, John, most of all for not being back. I know that sounds mean, but it's time for fresh eyes in Denver.
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Washington Commanders are sold, pending approval by the league:
https://www.nfl.com/news/dan-snyder-nearing-deal-with-josh-harris-group-to-sell-washington-commanders-fra
Now where will they move to? :)
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london ;D
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Washington Commanders are sold, pending approval by the league:
https://www.nfl.com/news/dan-snyder-nearing-deal-with-josh-harris-group-to-sell-washington-commanders-fra
Now where will they move to? :)
Nashville, so they can have the Commanders and the Commodores.
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Nashville, so they can have the Commanders and the Commodores.
If Snyder weren't this close to selling the team, then trading them would be a good plan.
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It's official. Rodgers to the Jets.
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one first and a fifth round pick seems like a decent price. almost seems un-jetsy to avoid pulling a mini walker to the vikings kind of stunt.
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I want to see what he has left before I make any type of judgement on this trade.
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eh. you have to judge value when you make a purchase. first and a fifth is cheap.
will it make the jets contenders? it's the jets, so no ;D
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How iffy he looked last year, I think the Packers may be laughing all the way to the bank.
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oh, it's even cheaper than i thought
Packers get: Jets' first round (#13), second round (#42), sixth round (#207), and a conditional second round pick next year if Rogers plays at least 65% of offensive snaps.
Jets get: Rogers, Packer's first round (#15), fifth round (#170)
basically the packers are playing gashapon with the 13th pick to see if they get something that can replace rogers.
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/04/25/in-the-end-the-packers-fleeced-the-jets-for-aaron-rodgers/ (https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/04/25/in-the-end-the-packers-fleeced-the-jets-for-aaron-rodgers/)
Just gonna leave this explanation here for those thinking this was a win for the Jets. It may turn out to be, but at a glance they've taken a HUGE gamble.
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that's a spicy hot take. i don't really agree with the alarmist pterodactyl noises the writer is making, but neither the jets nor aaron rogers deserves that much of my time to pick through
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Saw this and I knew it might have a good home right here...
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The Jets took a risk, but since it's been 20 years since they won a division title, they've got nothing to lose.
As a Bears fan, I'm just happy Rodgers is gone from the NFC North (though I blame Chicago's owners for always losing to him more than to Aaron himself).
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Saw this and I knew it might have a good home right here...
After two weeks of press conferences with the New York media
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It's official. Rodgers to the Jets.
My condolences to Jets fans.
Honestly, I'd be less concerned on if he CAN play (he can) and more concerned if he WILL be willing to do the work. It's his erratic behavior and lack of commitment that I'd be concerned about. Of course I only had to wait about 25-30 years for the Chiefs to draft a franchise QB rather than limp along with retreads. Ok so one of those retreads was Joe Montana but still.
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Draft Pundits-Houston is going to take a QB, count on it.
Counter Pundits-Nah, they are going to grab Will Anderson.
Houston-Let's do both!
I was glad to see Dallas get Smith, I'm hoping he stabilizes their run defense and still is some help in the passing game. Now if they can get a OG in the second (or that massive TE Washington).
The Lions had me scratching my head, making some good moves around to get more draft capital...and then using first round picks on second round players.
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The Lions had me scratching my head, making some good moves around to get more draft capital...and then using first round picks on second round players.
As a lifetime Lions fan, this is the Lions.
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As a lifetime Lions fan, this is the Lions.
It’s just the NFC North…
Lol
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Everyone in Detroit Social Media is a draft expert now lol. If we let John Dough from downriver pick the players, the Lions will win 10 Super Bowls in a row! :D :D :D
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Its funny to see Detroit getting hammered by critics in the first round for picking an RB, and then in the succeeding days of the draft, they get congratulated. We wont really know how these picks will pan out until years later, so this is all pointless at this stage.
As for the Bears, the new GM is very different than the one he replaced. All the team drafts are very workman-like, with rookies who have good character but seemingly limited ceilings.
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Exactly.
Also, Holmes did what few Lions General Managers EVER do - he ended up with more picks than he entered the draft with.
For %#$@#@ years Lions staff traded away draft pics as though they were trading "nothing" for something - simultaneously trading away our own future while enriching the futures of our NFL rivals.
Holmes has a lot of wasted time and crap efforts to try and make up for and it's not easy. The hole that the Lions dug for themselves through decades of mismanagement is deeper than Mt. Everest is high.
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Exactly.
Also, Holmes did what few Lions General Managers EVER do - he ended up with more picks than he entered the draft with.
For %#$@#@ years Lions staff traded away draft pics as though they were trading "nothing" for something - simultaneously trading away our own future while enriching the futures of our NFL rivals.
Holmes has a lot of wasted time and crap efforts to try and make up for and it's not easy. The hole that the Lions dug for themselves through decades of mismanagement is deeper than Mt. Everest is high.
Reminds me of the movie "Draft day" :)
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The point of instant draft analysis isn’t to be right. It’s to help convince people to watch. More eyeballs means more expensive advertising slots and bigger rights fees. People watch. Lots of them.
The sooner you start seeing televised sports analysis as primarily a spectacle and advertising for the league, the faster it makes sense as a medium.
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[quote author=Kit deSummersville
The Lions had me scratching my head, making some good moves around to get more draft capital...and then using first round picks on second round players.
[/quote] I see no one complaining about the Falcons drafting RB before the Lions. I see the Lions got play maker with first 2 picks but you can't judge the draft until 2 or 3 years down road . I do find it funny when they do redraft 2 or 3 years later :)).
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The point of instant draft analysis isn’t to be right. It’s to help convince people to watch. More eyeballs means more expensive advertising slots and bigger rights fees. People watch. Lots of them.
The sooner you start seeing televised sports analysis as primarily a spectacle and advertising for the league, the faster it makes sense as a medium.
Agreed. I was just commenting on the armchair GM types on social media. But even their antics draw more eyes. The more people talk, the more additional people become curious and want their say in the matter.
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RIP Jim Brown :(
https://www.nfl.com/news/jim-brown-hall-of-fame-rb-browns-legend-and-civil-rights-icon-dies-at-87
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Okay the Chargers schedule release video is absolutely the most hilarious thing I have seen in a long time.
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The only sports PR dept more off the shits than the chargers is Texas Christian University football Twitter
Content warning: this is batshit
https://twitter.com/TCUFootball/status/1609365539121680384?s=20
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The only sports PR dept more off the shits than the chargers is Texas Christian University football Twitter
Content warning: this is batshit
https://twitter.com/TCUFootball/status/1609365539121680384?s=20
;D 8) :thumbsup:
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So, Brady is now a part owner in the Raiders and their QB may or may not be able to play. Can an owner play for his team?
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Technically yes, but it would require approval from a lot of the other owners. And enough of them that I don't think it'll happen.
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It turns out that having a zero-tolerance policy towards gambling in a league flush with money from online gambling advertising is having some predictable effects.
To be clear, I do not- at all- think athletes should be gambling on their games. If any of that gets proven, that players bet on games they were involved in (particularly if they bet their team would lose), that's unacceptable. BUT... it's not a great look for the NFL to be cracking down this hard on it across the board when every single ad break is covered in gambling ads, casino odds are rattled off in every studio broadcast, even at least one arena is named for a casino conglomerate.
There's no putting that toothpaste back in its tube- the league isn't going to suddenly change its mind about that influx of money, obviously. But a situation where a player bets on, say, NBA games or even college football, shouldn't be resulting in the stiff penalties we're seeing (at least, my personal opinion). Not if the league wants to encourage betting on games the way it has been the last few years.
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Actually, the NFL allows their players to bet on any sport except the NFL.
It's betting on NFL games that they're about to crack down on.
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Actually, the NFL allows their players to bet on any sport except the NFL.
It's betting on NFL games that they're about to crack down on.
They aren't allowed to bet at all while on team facilities, that's what a bunch of these guys are getting tripped up on. It's just like that guy who gets canned for looking a porn on the work computer, on your free time it's okay but at work....
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The Browns have a logo:
(https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/private/t_editorial_landscape_12_desktop_2x/f_auto/browns/cnkxrzzrvilxapayp3pr.jpg)
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The Browns have a logo:
(https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/private/t_editorial_landscape_12_desktop_2x/f_auto/browns/cnkxrzzrvilxapayp3pr.jpg)
They need to put that on their godawful helmets.
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If it was purple I'd swear it was Thanos.
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If it was purple I'd swear it was Thanos.
That'd be silly; Thanos was a Titan. ;)
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Big D2/3 mascot energy
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Seems NFL is the latest franchise to get their netflix show - Quarterbacks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xlXTW5CuPY
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They need to put that on their godawful helmets.
That is actually a pretty sweet logo. So much better than those blank weird helmets.
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My dudes, what part of “if you bet on NFL games, you will definitely be suspended for a year” did we not understand?
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Burgandy & Sold.
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Dan Snyder. Horrible human being. Even worse owner.
At least now his days as owner are officially numbered. :drinking01:
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Dan Snyder. Horrible human being. Even worse owner.
At least now his days as owner are officially numbered. :drinking01:
https://www.audacy.com/923thefan/sports/cleveland-browns/daryl-ruiter-reacts-to-the-browns-releasing-perrion-winfrey
I guess this guy takes 2nd (maybe 3rd)?
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Dan Snyder. Horrible human being. Even worse owner.
At least now his days as owner are officially numbered. :drinking01:
As a Cowboys fan, I have mixed emotions. He was the GOAT at self sabotage.
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As a Cowboys fan, I have mixed emotions. He was the GOAT at self sabotage.
Heh, they even fined him (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38043823/commanders-dan-snyder-fined-60m-findings-investigation) $60 million on the way out.
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Heh, they even fined him (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38043823/commanders-dan-snyder-fined-60m-findings-investigation) $60 million on the way out.
But he's about to rake in almost three billion. Takes a bit of the sting out of it I'd say.
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I'm not a fan of the Washington... er, whatever their name is this week. (More on that shortly). I've lived just a short trip around the Beltway from FedEx Field for over a decade and a half now, and never have found myself actively cheering for them, other than for the times that it's necessary as an 'enemy of my enemy' situation (if they're playing the Raiders, for example). The team name was abhorrent, and its owner was just the worst kind of person.
To me, that transcends fandom. That goes beyond 'well, he owns a team I don't like, so go him, ruin your own team!' the way Broncos fans did with Al Davis for so long (for example). There's a lot of those situations out there, and more power to them- if you're an NFC North fan and get to watch the McCaskeys continue to neuter the Bears year after year, you're probably pretty thrilled with that. But this isn't a situation like that- I mean, obviously Snyder did a lot of damage to his team over the years, clearly. But there's not much to be thrilled at there.
The NFL is notorious for protecting itself and its owners from any real consequences of their actions- things have to be at the point of armed revolution for the league to actually make some kind of lasting consequence, oreven admission of a problem, when it comes to its ownership group- the Carolina situation several years ago comes to mind. That's nothing unusal to the NFL, mind you- we've seen the same in the NBA, MLB, and NHL as well over the years. Across the four, it's hard to think of many situations that have been to this point, where even the league they help run finally has to give up and throw the owner of one of the franchises under the bus to make things palpable again. I mean, Richardson in Carolina, the L.A. Clippers situation a few years ago... Marge Schott? That's even going back a long ways.
But here we are. And it's somewhat telling that the league's decision to finally punish Snyder, even a relative slap on the wrist, came at the same time as he sold the team for a record profit (making the fines largely couch-cushion stuff for him), and that the league shrugged at years of sexual abuse claims around the team, only to fine him now on his way out because of the evidence of financial improprieties. Grab all the tushes you wish, apparently, and we'll stay stoicly quiet, but try to screw us out of profit sharing and we'll torch you. There's a lesson to be learned for fans.
Regardless of the NFL's culpability in all of this- and there's plenty to be said for it- in the short term, we're at least rid of one of the less-decent people to ever be involved in professional sports, and a stain on the D.C. area for many, many years even prior to his buying the team- Snyder has long had a reputation around here as a remarkably shitty human being, in a city that has given us no shortage of them in the past for comparison, and the general hope around here is that whether you like the football team or not, hopefullly this is it for Snyder being a regular influence around here. Hopefully so- things feel a little less grim with his removal.
It sounds like the new ownership group is considering another name change, and I'm good with that- 'Commanders' was always kind of lame sounding. Safe to say the backlash of trying to go back to the old name- you know, THAT one- would be loud enough that it's all but impossible, and good riddance. The idea here is to erase one more bit of Snyder's legacy on the team- great, do it, every little bit helps. Let him enjoy his enormous profit from over twenty years of running this team and city into the ground for his own benefit, if that's his victory- and let the rest of us finally move on from Dan Snyder, once and for all. The less he's mentioned around here moving forward, the better for everyone, fan and otherwise.
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Genuinely hoping they go back to Washington Football Team.
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Genuinely hoping they go back to Washington Football Team.
Wasn't the issue that they can't register the Name, Commanders?
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To be completely honest I do not care about anything surrounding that. Washington Football Team was a good name both ironicially and unironically and they missed a magnificent opportunity to sell shirts that just said "Go Football Team" to millions of people who don't even watch football.
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To be completely honest I do not care about anything surrounding that. Washington Football Team was a good name both ironicially and unironically and they missed a magnificent opportunity to sell shirts that just said "Go Football Team" to millions of people who don't even watch football.
Washington Football Team was so stupid it was awesome. After so many years of anger and frustration, that stupid name offered an occasional chuckle to the flickering moments of mediocrity.
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Genuinely hoping they go back to Washington Football Team.
I liked the name myself. I thought it had a iconic vibe to it. Washington? THE Football Team.
P.S. GO CHIEFS! cool
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38064567/broncos-eyioma-uwazurike-suspended-betting-nfl-games
BRO
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Genuinely hoping they go back to Washington Football Team.
Washington Hockey Team is probably available.
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Washington's Team For Football
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Washington Professional Football Franchise.
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WPFF is good but Washington Team for Football may just be perfect.
Although my wife thinks Washington City for the Football Team might work.
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How about an honest name? "We Still Suck"?
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How about an honest name? "We Still Suck"?
That's the problem, they are now too mediocre for that.
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WPFF is good but Washington Team for Football may just be perfect.
Although my wife thinks Washington City for the Football Team might work.
Yeah, it let's you say WTF, WTF?
Or maybe, Washington Fungible Tokens...
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That's the problem, they are now too mediocre for that.
*checking QB chart*
I'm... not so sure about that this year. Losing Wentz was addition by subtraction, losing Taylor Heinicke was a bad idea, and I'm really not sold on Sam Howell being the guy to make them into a respectable offense. They play in a tough division (Eagles are contenders, Cowboys are very good, even the Giants are a tough team), they can't afford to be 'eh' at a position like QB.
I suspect the next couple of years will be a little tough around here as the Commanders (or whatever their name ends up being) rebuild from the damage of the past quarter-century.
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*nod*
It is indeed going to be a long road before things get better for them, that is assuming that somehow the new owner is not worse than the previous owner.
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*nod*
It is indeed going to be a long road before things get better for them, that is assuming that somehow the new owner is not worse than the previous owner.
That would take actual effort. I'd almost be impressed with that kind of dedication to one's craft. You have to get up very early in the morning to get in that much awful behavior to out-jackass Dan Snyder.
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*Donald Sterling has entered the chat*
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Washington Presidents would have been a more apt name for the team, imo.
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*checking QB chart*
I'm... not so sure about that this year. Losing Wentz was addition by subtraction, losing Taylor Heinicke was a bad idea, and I'm really not sold on Sam Howell being the guy to make them into a respectable offense. They play in a tough division (Eagles are contenders, Cowboys are very good, even the Giants are a tough team), they can't afford to be 'eh' at a position like QB.
I suspect the next couple of years will be a little tough around here as the Commanders (or whatever their name ends up being) rebuild from the damage of the past quarter-century.
I don't disagree with your general assessment; I just don't see them being that much different on the field. 8-8-1 and last place in 2022 is not all that different than 7-9 and first place in 2020. They've been mediocre for much the last decade going back to 2015. They've become competent at it. With Snyder gone outright boobery is unlikely to reappear.
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I don't disagree with your general assessment; I just don't see them being that much different on the field. 8-8-1 and last place in 2022 is not all that different than 7-9 and first place in 2020. They've been mediocre for much the last decade going back to 2015. They've become competent at it. With Snyder gone outright boobery is unlikely to reappear.
'Washington Outright Boobery' actually isn't a terrible name, now that you mention it.
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(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/licensed-image?q=tbn:ANd9GcQL1eeAt97Oto9wq6yzfDBGDdzGHdi5A0AfPlFUfoDGAmp_EfFr0CzJqmQW8fq6KqLZt0dzVLgv58W1LpU)
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'Washington Outright Boobery' actually isn't a terrible name, now that you mention it.
I like the cut of your jib...although the WOBs may be too Word of Blake-ish for some.
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Now if they took that silhouette, made it gold, and put it on the matte burgundy helmet in place of the block sarif "W" you might have something for the Outright Boobery to sell tickets...or would it be Booberies? Go OBs!
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At this point, I'm less looking forward to Week 1 to see if the Broncos are better than last year, and more looking to see if anyone survives camp/preseason to be able to take the field for Week 1.
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I almost feel like I'm cheating a little waiting this late into pre-season to make my predictions but what ever at this point.
AFC
North: Bengals. No one else really feels like they can quite topple them yet.
West: Chiefs. I mean really this is a team that will be difficult to topple for a few years yet.
South: Colts. Only because I feel like if I go with Titans something will happen to make sure they don't win the division.
East: Dolphins. I fully expect Rogers to be on IR and Buffalo just cannot seem to get over the last hurdle.
Wildcards: Bills and Jaguars
NFC
North: Packers. Lions will make a good showing this year but it's still Detroit, they're not allowed nice things.
West: 49ers.
South: Bucs. Mostly because someone has to and I don't trust the other teams to be able to avoid the injury bug.
East: WFT.
Wildcards: Seahawks and Eagles
Super bowl:
Chiefs over the 49ers.
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I almost feel like I'm cheating a little waiting this late into pre-season to make my predictions but what ever at this point.
AFC
North: Bengals. No one else really feels like they can quite topple them yet.
West: Chiefs. I mean really this is a team that will be difficult to topple for a few years yet.
South: Colts. Only because I feel like if I go with Titans something will happen to make sure they don't win the division.
East: Dolphins. I fully expect Rogers to be on IR and Buffalo just cannot seem to get over the last hurdle.
Wildcards: Bills and Jaguars
NFC
North: Packers. Lions will make a good showing this year but it's still Detroit, they're not allowed nice things.
West: 49ers.
South: Bucs. Mostly because someone has to and I don't trust the other teams to be able to avoid the injury bug.
East: WFT.
Wildcards: Seahawks and Eagles
Super bowl:
Chiefs over the 49ers.
You might want to add a couple more wild card teams.
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Bleh. If I have to. I guess Titans and Lions then.
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That time already, eh? OK.
AFC:
North: Bengals. With respect to the Ravens, this isn't even a competition. Cincy is SCARY. Cleveland has taken a serious step back from that fun 2021 season, and the Steelers definitely are in build-mode. Unless injuries mount at key positions, the Bengals are going to roll this one early and often.
West: Chiefs. I don't get what the Chargers are doing, the Raiders doubly so, and Denver... just makes me drink. This division is all KC until Mahomes retires.
South: Jacksonville. A weak division is a feeding ground for a Jags team that made some very good steps forward late last season, particularly with the Titans not looking like they did much to keep up in the offseason (Derrick Henry is a year older, etc.)
East: Bills, with a giant caveat- I really do think that if the Dolphins stay healthy, that offense could make for a tight race to the finish. That's a huge 'if', of course, particularly at QB, but there's potential here to be interesting at least. I'm not sold on the Jets at all, meanwhile.
Wild Cards: Ravens, Dolphins, Chargers
NFC:
North: Lions. I don't think I've ever been able to type that with a straight face before, but that looks like a pretty great team this year. The Vikings were the most underwhelming 13-win team I can think of in recent memory, and Rodgers left, so... why not Detroit? [/Zoidberg]
West: 49ers. All that messy QB stuff has kind of overshadowed that if ONE of their many guys was healthy in the second half of that playoff game last winter, SanFran was a juggernaut. I don't see them getting boned like that two years in a row, though I'll be interested to see what they do with Lance now. No one else in this division is even relevant in comparison.
South: Er... I have to pick one, don't I? This is a wasteland. Let's say the Saints and move on, I guess.
East: HELLBIE UPSET SPECIAL Commanders. I know, I know. But no one has won this division twice in a row in almost two decades, so as good as the Eagles are, I'm going to have some fun. I don't really feel like the Giants are a great team, and Dallas still feels like they're missing something hard to put my finger on, so... you know what, Sam Howell impressed the hell out of me the other night. Let's see if the post-Snyder vibes carry them a little.
Wild Cards: Eagles, Cowboys, Vikings
Super Bowl: 49ers over Chiefs in a game we'll be talking about for years
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Well, I'll get in on the action as well
AFC
North: Bengals.
West: Chiefs.
South: Jaguars.
East: Bills.
Wildcards: Dolphins, Chargers and Jets
NFC
North: Vikings. The Lions will give it a run but Goff comes back down to earth.
West: 49ers.
South: Falcons. Arthur Smith's running attack squeaks them by all the other bad teams in this division.
East: Cowboys
Wildcards: Eagles, Seahawks and Lions
Super bowl:
The Cowboys bring back 1993 and defeat the Bills.
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Welp, the Bears may have found the next Tom Brady in Tyson Bagent, but knowing the team, theyll probably end up losing him if he gets stashed to the practice squad and gets poached.
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NFL postseason script leaked!
GO LIONS!!
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The Lions???
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The Dolphins haven't beaten the Chiefs since 2011 I'll believe it when I see it.
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The Lions???
Hey, us Detroit fans can dream!
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The Lions???
Any prediction of the Lions winning even 1 round - let alone 2 whole rounds!!! - requires some Michgander to trumpet GO LIONS!
The Dolphins haven't beaten the Chiefs since 2011 I'll believe it when I see it.
Exactly.
Hey, us Detroit fans can dream!
Also filed under "exactly".
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https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/rumor-mill
So where does Cade York go next (and how long before He figures it out, where?)
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To be fair, a lot of analysts are predicting the Lions to win the NFC Norris since that div is wide open. Aaron Rodgers used to own it, but hes now with the Jets.
As for the Bears, I dont think theyll be in contention this year. Good on them for keeping Tyson Bagent. Hes my one hope for next seasons breakout run.
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Betting on the Lions to win 2 rounds in the playoffs doesn't sound like a good idea, regardless of who said it.
But I won't root against them.
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Whatever the cardinals are doing, it apparently isn’t going to include winning
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The NFC North is going to be chaos this year. That makes for some fun football though.
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dare i say the lion's schedule looks... favorable? (except that first game vs the chiefs. they're totally ****** there)
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Agreed. Lions/Chiefs is a non-starter starter :cheesy:
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Third quarter started a bit ago... At least the Lions are making it a little competitive so far.
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lions fans, go nuts. you earned this one. big props to the defense, especially down the stretch holding kc to a pair of field goals when in past years they would have folded like a sheet of paper
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Speechless. This is almost unreal.
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the football gods smiled on you (and not on mahomes throwing darts that got dropped)
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It's not fair to hog all the Divine Favor for ourselves, but I'll also not refuse lol...
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Give the Lions credit, their offense was definitely present and accounted for this game. Had the Chiefs not had the receiving problems they had in 4Q it'd have turned out different, but good job to Detroit for setting the bar for the season.
I miss Kelce already...
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I live in Detroit, and the high of the Lions beating KC is going to be crazy in the morning and at least until next week. Its such a good thing because when it comes to the Lions there hasn't been much to cheer for in a really really long time.
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Yes. In the past the Lions would have found a new and interesting way to hand the game back to the Chiefs. These new Lions actually took advantage perfectly and ran without looking back all the way to the end.
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Ok, what have you guys done with the real Lions? :D
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:shocked:
Glad I'm not a betting man!
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The big question for next week is, can Detroit keep doing this against the Seahawks and Falcons?
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In Detroit, its like the Lions won the Super Bowl!!!! It's so crazy about how happy and pumped for the team the whole state of Michigan is. The best part is it haven't been destroyed after the first game.
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Well, here we are in week one and Tom Brady isn't on anybody's roster. boogie
Didn't think I'd live to see the day.
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https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/browns-defense-dominates-bengals-for-24-3-victory
1-0-0. Good start. Not convinced by any measure but a very good start...
Apparently Baker Mayfield did well enough as well today...
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Vikes sucked lol
Drive chart:
Punt
Fumble
Fumble
Punt
TD
FG
Punt
Int
TD
Punt
Punt
Each team only has one possession in the third quarter. Scintillating football
Angst will be high. I don’t even like the Vikings but it’s the only game on TV
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I feel you, that Steelers loss was depressing. The 49ers played nigh perfect football and Pittsburgh...was present.
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And that was just brutal to watch for the night game. There's losing, and there's "did you even show up to play?"
At this rate the Giants are on track to break being sacked 150 times over the season.
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16 points.
Denver had all that misery last season, traded a first-round pick for a COACH, who in turn traded another pick for his old kicker- oh he of the roughly 75% accuracy rate in his career- and they ended up with 16 points. The same hurdle they couldn't break reliably last season. The same exact score as the Week 1 loss to Seattle last season, in fact.
AT HOME. TO THE ARCHRIVAL RAIDERS.
I don't even know how to finish this post, I'm just baffled. The weirdest thing is that Russ was halfway decent this time- not GREAT, but reasonable. And now the rest of the team around him- particularly the defensive line- look rotten.
Good thing we don't have draft picks for the next few years to help clean this mess up with.
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It could be worse. You could be a Giants fan.
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It could be worse. You could be a Giants fan.
Or a Jets fan at the moment.
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When you break the QB that's supposed to take you to the promised land in the first quarter of the first game. :shocked:
Hope it's not a high ankle sprain or anything.
Now if you'll excuse me I need to mail this case of super glue to the Chiefs' Wide Receiver Room.
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saleh expects an Achilles tear. if that's the case, he won't see the field again this year.
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When you break the QB that's supposed to take you to the promised land in the first quarter of the first game.
Hope it's not a high ankle sprain or anything.
Now if you'll excuse me I need to mail this case of super glue to the Chiefs' Wide Receiver Room.
This reminds me of all the hopes of the 1999 Vinny and the Jets, then game 1, Testeverde goes down for the count and the Jets went from Super Bowl contended to 8-8 just like that.
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I thought Rodgers was supposed to get the Jets to 8+ wins. :smilie_happy_thumbup:
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There's no joy to be found in a season-ending (let's be real here), and potentially career-ending injury like this, no matter your fandom. (The guy isn't exactly young, remember, and almost hung it up this offseason anyway). It would be a tragedy for our last look at an undisputed Hall of Famer like this to be getting carted off after four plays for his new team.
My opinions of him on a personal level aside, as football fans it's very disheartening to see this happen like this.
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Never thought he was going to be as good as they hoped he would be but yeah no one wants to see something like this happen. If there is a silver lining hopefully Rogers' will spend some of that downtime mentoring White and turn him into something that can salvage their season. I'm always up for more chaos in the AFC East! :D
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What have the Jets done to earn the ire of the Football Gods so?
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If the football gods are like the Greek pantheon, the jets either indulged in an act of hubris that challenged the divine, or spurned the gods romantically
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It only took the Red Sox what? About a 100 years to break their curse? The Jets are half way there! :huh:
Edit: It only took the Red Sox 84 years. The Jets may just need to sweat it out another 30 years and they are Super Bowl bound!
P.S. This is obviously Joe Namath's doing.
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What have the Jets done to earn the ire of the Football Gods so?
Man, this is going to hurt the Packers, too. No extra first round pick for next year.
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It's official. Torn Achillies and done for the season.
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When you break the QB that's supposed to take you to the promised land in the first quarter of the first game. :shocked:
Hope it's not a high ankle sprain or anything.
Now if you'll excuse me I need to mail this case of super glue to the Chiefs' Wide Receiver Room.
Rogers torn Achillies and done for the season. Hard way to go out, I assume this will be his final game.
So what the was Vegas losses in the weird bets - Raiders in 1st place, Lions beating the Chiefs on game one??
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It's official. Torn Achillies and done for the season.
As Hellbie was saying, this is probably the dusk of his career that was witnessed.
It was fun bagging on the Jets for pinning their hopes on him while healthy, but a torn Achilles tendon made it into mythology and the first written epics to come out of the west for a reason. It's a killer. They knew it then and even though modern medicine can help him recover, his career is most likely done.
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I mean I'm looking at it from my own injury perspective- I took a pummeling in my youth from hockey. Never tore an Achilles, but things like broken ankle, ribs, that kind of thing, I healed from that pretty quickly-ish in my early 20s. I'm a bit older than Rodgers is now (44 in a couple of months), and obviously not in an NFL condition (heh), but I know if I broke a rib today my recovery time- and misery- would be a solid double what it was 20 years ago. And some of the old injuries that healed wrong, or just had long-term effects (concussions in particular) still give me trouble now, and will for the rest of my days.
To Rodgers' case, here's a guy (/Chris Collinsworth voice) who is coming off a pretty 'eh' year last year, in the twilight years of his career, not healing the way he used to, about to miss an entire season and need months of rehab along the way- so he can come back next year and do it all over again? If this was 2012, yeah, see you next year buddy, tough break but you'll bounce back. Now though? I can't imagine a world in which Aaron Rodgers plays another NFL snap after this week's debacle.
And as I said before, personal dislike of him aside, that's a loss to the Jets and their fans, the Packers' draft plans, and to football fans as a whole, because whatever your thoughts on the guy, the league is simply a better one for having him in it.
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So weird question now who the Old Man QB in the league
No BRADY
No ROGERS
Who next in years?
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Stafford, Tannehill, and Cousins are all 35
Speaking of Cousins, this game is ass
Jefferson fumbling out of the end zone for a touchback, then subsequently allowing the eagles to get to s 61 yard field goal attempt in 30 seconds mostly by rushing is peak Minnesota football
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:cool: :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed: Its Sunday NFL FOOTBALL !!!!!! OK WHERE EVERYONE!!!!! Well Lions are playing today. We shell see what it true out a win or loss.
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Oh wow, FOOTBALL TEAM is going right down the "get Riverboat Ron fired before the bye-week," road today.
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Starting to look like the Cardinals are going to try and go full on Major Leagues on the owners this year. It could get interesting.
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That or the giants might actually be worse lol
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Lions fell back to earth. Looks like we have to try to get the perfect record next season........... :smilie_happy_thumbup: :smilie_happy_thumbup:
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Lions fell back to earth. Looks like we have to try to get the perfect record next season........... :smilie_happy_thumbup: :smilie_happy_thumbup:
Seahawks are usually a tough out and travel well, but still stinks to lose a home game.
Speaking of (former) Seahawks, Russell Wilson is one of the few guys that can make that hail mary, but missing the 2pt conversion had to be worse for Denver fans than if the defense would’ve just knocked down the hail mary. Emotional roller coaster, from “Awesome!” to “Really?!?!” in less than 40 seconds, 😂 Heck, I was rooting against them and when he completed the hail mary, I was rooting for them to make the 2pter, just to complete an awesome comeback to tie, just for more football.
Most disappointing to me were the Jaguars; they had their shot, held KC to 17 with Kelce and C. Jones back and could only muster 3 Field Goals. I was hoping for the win, but if not that, then at least a little more “oomph” from them.
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Well... Denver got more than 16 points, so that's a moral victory, I guess.
21-3 at one point, at home, over WASHINGTON, and they just kind of... stopped playing.
I don't know about you, but I'm ready to dust off the old 'Fire Vance Joseph' t-shirt. I know it's only been two games, but I've seen enough of this defense.
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Well... Denver got more than 16 points, so that's a moral victory, I guess.
21-3 at one point, at home, over WASHINGTON, and they just kind of... stopped playing.
I don't know about you, but I'm ready to dust off the old 'Fire Vance Joseph' t-shirt. I know it's only been two games, but I've seen enough of this defense.
In full transparency, Denver is one of those teams I generally always root against (barring Elway’s last two years where I just needed an AFC team, any AFC team, to break the NFC’s chokehold on Super Bowl wins). However, I do appreciate good football and great plays. Wilson is one of those dudes that can stink all game, but if it’s within a score down the stretch, he has a track record of making those crazy plays for ties and wins. I did have the same thought while watching, though, “”At least Hellbie got the moral victory of them scoring more than 16”, 😆
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I don't know about you, but I'm ready to dust off the old 'Fire Vance Joseph' t-shirt. I know it's only been two games, but I've seen enough of this defense.
You're telling me. I grabbed them this week because of a suspect Washington O-line that let the Cardinals sack their QB like 5 times only to give me -1 points. Luckily my opponent went with the Giants' defense which managed twice as much.
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https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/monday-night-football-browns-lose-nick-chubb-trail-steelers-16-14-at-halftime
The post on FB is grim: Nick Chubb Season ending certainly, possibly career ending?
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he'll probably try to rehab but he'll have that sad end of career with 1.1 yards per carry. frank gore was a marvel and we didn't appreciate him enough.
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he'll probably try to rehab but he'll have that sad end of career with 1.1 yards per carry. frank gore was a marvel and we didn't appreciate him enough.
Were you getting 1.1 yards per carry from? I was just listening to ESPN and they were talking about Chubb is the only back to average 5 yards per carry over a 5 year period (or something to that effect, my numbers may be off). Point is, they were amazed at his production and lamenting his loss.
Frank Gore’s career is underrated, particularly when you remember that he started his NFL career after twice tearing his ACL at UM.
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I was projecting worst case scenario after returning
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Gotcha.
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It's a bucket full of sorrow and cringe to see someone try to come back and be only a shadow of their former talent.
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I know if that my happened to me, I would try to play again. I can only imagine the thought for those who return is "NO! I'm not done yet!"
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Not my team but reading about CLE and Hunt pairing again, I saw the two things on Da Bears. One, the DC resigns two weeks into the campaign (WTF?) and they released their #2 QB, keeping only a guy who was the Break Glass guy last year?
any Bears Fans with insight?
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giants look like they're ready to offer some stiff competition for the first overall draft pick. edge still goes to the cardinals as they hold the tiebreaker. but watch out for the steelers, who look totally hapless on offense
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Note: If you haven't watched the Nick Chubb film, there's two angles- one from the broadcast booth that just looks bad, and one from the far sideline- that's the one Aikman even said they didn't want to show on TV. It's out there on the internet, and I can tell you after seeing it: DO NOT. That is Theismann levels of awful to watch.
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Note: If you haven't watched the Nick Chubb film, there's two angles- one from the broadcast booth that just looks bad, and one from the far sideline- that's the one Aikman even said they didn't want to show on TV. It's out there on the internet, and I can tell you after seeing it: DO NOT. That is Theismann levels of awful to watch.
My dad was no saint, but he and I watched Theismann live, and he had the good sense to turn the channel for 15 minutes. "You don't want to see that again, boy" or something like that.
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I remember see-ing both the Theismann and Alex Smith injuries live on television. Chubb didn't suffer a broken bone but its still gruesome to see.
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Not to change the subject, but if anyone needs to change the subject, I'll help.
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cowboys fans have reason to be happy. their schedule is nice.
@NYG W
vs NYG W
@ARI
vs NE
@SF
@LAC
vs LAR
@PHI
vs WAS
vs SEA
vs PHI
@BUF
@MIA
vs DET
@WAS
Niners, Rams, two against the Eagles, Bills, and Dolphins will probably decide if they get the #1 seed or not. Four are road games.
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twitter highlights are telling me that tyreek hill does indeed still run very fast
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Well, Washington did that...
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:shocked: :cool: :smilie_happy_thumbup: Well the Lions won. It keep the crazy fan mob happy for now. WOW the Packer won by one. Lions and Packers on Thursday night Football. I wonder who win that one?
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the end of the vikings game was the most vikings thing i've seen in years
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How about that Denver-Miami game 70-20, thats a collage football score.
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tecmo bowl-level shit
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I don't think I've enjoyed a game more than that Cardinals-Cowboys game and I didn't even have to watch it. :grin:
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I don't think I've enjoyed a game more than that Cardinals-Cowboys game and I didn't even have to watch it. :grin:
This.
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I don't think I've enjoyed a game more than that Cardinals-Cowboys game and I didn't even have to watch it. :grin:
This, Definitely !! I love watching the Cowgirls lose !!
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The nice thing to all this in Denver is that we don't need to make new signs and memes, we can just re-use all he old "FIRE VANCE JOSEPH" stuff we kept feom a few years ago. Recycling is important.
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This, Definitely !! I love watching the Cowgirls lose !!
Misogyny is the coolest of insults.
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Sarcasm Seconded.
But the Lions took away the old best actual insult by becoming legitimately good. We used to joke that our vacuum cleaner was broken but we put a Lions bumper sticker on it and now it sucks again. Can't make that joke anymore.
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The nice thing to all this in Denver is that we don't need to make new signs and memes, we can just re-use all he old "FIRE VANCE JOSEPH" stuff we kept feom a few years ago. Recycling is important.
I saw "Broncos Country, let's cry" recently and it sent me for a minute.
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Okay how did they put 70 points on a professional football team???
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They didn't put up 70 points on a professional football team, they put up 70 points on the Broncos. :wink:
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the DEN@MIA game in one picture
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F64GnjVXoAAVwwi?format=jpg&name=large)
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Looks like the old vibrating-surface NFL toy back in the day...
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(https://media.tenor.com/JH1WQo-6gwUAAAAM/denver-broncos.gif)
Looks like there's no intention to get rid of Vance Joseph. That means one of two things: Either they're tanking for the draft, which seems unlikely as many picks as they keep trading off to everyone else, or Payton is keeping him around to use as a scapegoat if things continue to be this bad for the rest of the season. Neither is going to make for a fun stretch of Sundays for the Hellbie house.
Go Avs.
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Amazingly, the Bronco's defense wasn't the worst in fantasy football last week due to the return TD. That and there's a cap of negative points somewhere in the 30s.....
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If your scoring system doesn't give maximum negative points for giving up the all-time offensive points in a game record (every other 70 point game included a non-offensive touchdown) then your scoring system is dumb.
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If your scoring system doesn't give maximum negative points for giving up the all-time offensive points in a game record (every other 70 point game included a non-offensive touchdown) then your scoring system is dumb.
I'm sure it will be adjusted next year....
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the DEN@MIA game in one picture
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F64GnjVXoAAVwwi?format=jpg&name=large)
Still amazing that those guys rolling on the turf aren't decked out in blue and silver.
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Still amazing that those guys rolling on the turf aren't decked out in blue and silver.
Blue and silver don't seem to be Lion down on the job so far... :cheesy:
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Lions looked good tonight. That was a game they needed to just win, and not play down to the competition. This team is reminding me of the ‘95 Lions, not so much in comparable play style, but in that hungry plucky underdog not afraid to mix it up with anyone kind of style.
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Lions did great exploding with offense tonight. But it's that tentative, conservative-style play in the second half that could have let Green Bay come back that irked me and a few others.
In the end though, we can't complain.
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Well that's the first time I ever saw Unsportsmanlike Conduct called on a coach. What a way to end the game.
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woof. putrid game.
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Dallas kicked the legs out from under another sub par team. My, how the Patriots have fallen.
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49ers are looking good, but might be very depended on McCaffrey. But fun to watch :)
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Two weeks ago, Denver came out looking fantastic in the first half against Washington, then kind of wilted and died in the second, allowing the Commanders (I still hate that name) to roll over them in the end.
Yesterday felt like a reversal of that, as Chicago ran roughshod on Denver all through the first half, Justin Fields looked like the second coming of Joe Montana, nothing could go right for the Broncos, and then... halftime, and the teams just switched roles. Denver gets their first win of the season, and while it's hard to be too thrilled with playing well for half of a game against the league's worst team, LOSING to them would have been a lot worse.
Credit to Wilson, who has quietly had a pretty good season so far overall- not his old self by any means, but good enough that if his defense holds up once in a while, he can win games. That was, famously, not the case a year ago.
Jets next week. Yay.
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Not my team but reading about CLE and Hunt pairing again, I saw the two things on Da Bears. One, the DC resigns two weeks into the campaign (WTF?) and they released their #2 QB, keeping only a guy who was the Break Glass guy last year?
any Bears Fans with insight?
After watching yesterdays game, I think I know why you haven’t got any response, 😂.
Figured Miami would come back down to earth.
I feel bad for the Jets; defense helped get them back in the game, and Zach Wilson played pretty good overall. I hate that it came down to that fumble and a pretty bed call. The Chiefs on the other hand seem to really be playing down to their competition.
New England has definitely fallen, but what the heck happened to the Bengals? I figured the AFC Championship game was going to include two of these three teams: Chiefs, Bills, and Bengals, and figured the one left out would be because one of the two left knocked the third out in the Division round. But man, the Bengals just look horrible.
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49ers are looking good, but might be very depended on McCaffrey. But fun to watch :)
Bandwagon rolling in the Bay Area, can tell you I haven't seen this much red and gold on weekends in forever, at least since they lost the Super Bowl to the Ravens back in 2013.
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They’ve got that mid 2010s Alabama vibe. Boring as hell but you look up and it’s 24-3
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I feel bad for the Jets; defense helped get them back in the game, and Zach Wilson played pretty good overall. I hate that it came down to that fumble and a pretty bed call. The Chiefs on the other hand seem to really be playing down to their competition.
IMO it's less that the Chiefs play down to their competition than Andy Reid really doesn't like to pull any more toys out of his toybox than he absolutely has to in the regular season. That and Mahomes is still working on gelling with his WR room. I'm not worried about it.
Also, that wasn't a bad call unless you are talking about calling a facemask a safety. Definitely a bad call. As to the hold all I can say if you don't want to see the holding penalties, stop holding. If you alter the receiver's trajectory outside five yards, you going to get called, especially when you do it right in front of the ref.
New England has definitely fallen, but what the heck happened to the Bengals? I figured the AFC Championship game was going to include two of these three teams: Chiefs, Bills, and Bengals, and figured the one left out would be because one of the two left knocked the third out in the Division round. But man, the Bengals just look horrible.
The Bengals is all about Joe Burrow and he's playing hurt. The Bengals get a LOT better as soon as his leg gets better.
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Don't know if anyone else saw it or if it's still available to view but Disney+ did a Toy Story animated co-broadcast of the Jags-Falcons game. It was kind of fun to watch. It was the actual game but animated with Toy Story characters on the sidelines. Slinky Dog was the first down chains. :wink:
Edit: Yep, checked and it's still available for replay.
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I was wrong. THIS game is putrid. The Giants a ten dimensions of bad
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More than ten...
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With about 5:26 to go, it’s possible they might give up 10 dimensions of sacks…one more to go. The sad thing is Seattle doesn’t really look that “good”, either, just the Giants look that horrible.
There just went sack number 10 as I type this.
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NYG Drive Chart
1st Half
Downs 11 plays, 48 yards, 6:15
Punt 4 plays, 15 yards, 1:57
Fumble 2 plays, 1 yard, 0:52
Punt 6 plays, 27 yards, 3:06
Field Goal 12 plays, 61 yards, 6:11
Punt 3 plays, 3 yards, 0:46
2nd Half
Punt 3 plays, -4 yards, 1:38
Interception Touchdown 11 plays, 52 yards, 5:28
Punt 9 plays, 2 yards, 4:43
Interception 6 plays, 31 yards, 1:57
Downs 6 plays, 10 yards, 1:56
The Giants had more first downs, better 3rd down efficiency, few penalties, and ran 23 more plays. But their turnover margin was -3 and gave up 11 sacks. L.
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On NFL.com
Daboll on 1-3 Giants: 'I'd be upset too if I was a fan.'
This just in! Head Coach Daboll announces he is NOT a fan of the NY Giants. Film at eleven. :grin:
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I wouldn’t be either
Reporter: What do you think of your team’s execution?
John McCay: I’m in favor of it.
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God bless John McCay.
I'm still bummed about Trevon Diggs hurting his knee. Not only does it impact the Dallas D but we don't get to see the Diggs brothers take each other on this year.
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I'm a Randy Gregory fan but I was so glad when the Cowboys managed to miss out on that contract, it was just too much for him. It's looking even better now, sorry Hellbie.
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Halftime...who are you people and what have you done with the Bears?
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Largely the same bears as the first half vs the broncos last week. It was the second half where they stopped meaningful participation
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Bears remembered where the end zone was. Saw a stat that they are by far the worst third down defense in the league. If the Football Team’s drive didn’t stall with five minutes left, it would have been a three point game. I can’t imagine the possibility of losing like that two weeks in a row to not good teams
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Man, Dick Butkus died, that sucks.
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My favorite butkus highlight
https://x.com/SickosCommittee/status/1710060193642332520?s=20
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denver now has the worst defensive DVOA ever through five games in case broncos fans needed another reason to hate this team
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As a 49ers fan, I am worried about the salary cap hell the team will be in when Purdy's rookie contract ends. Man is gonna get PAID
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Hey now, he's got at least two more seasons to get injured and never be quite the same.
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So how many more years till the Cowboys realize that Dak is never going to get them to the Super Bowl. It does make for some highly entertaining Monday morning sports shows though. Lot of Dak defenders eating a lot of crow this morning. :laugh:
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Take away Brady and cheating and the real Belichick is revealed. :smilie_happy_thumbup:
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So how many more years till the Cowboys realize that Dak Mike McCarthy is never going to get them to the Super Bowl.
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It hindsight it was obvious but it was also pretty apparent in the beginning and middle
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4-1 Lions. They did what they were supposed to do with the Panthers. Not really much more to say about it.
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As a Bay Area transplant 15 years ago, I thought I would enjoy the Niners game more than I did. I think the harshest criticism for the Dallas coaching staff is that is just wasn't that competitive. Even aside from the three pics, Dallas never looked that threatening, never looked in control in any part of the game. Dallas definitely has the talent and the athletes. Coaching? I dunno if that is it, but definitely where the buck stops.
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So as a Red Sox fan 1st, I am greatful for Belichick and Pats because they are not the worse team in New England this year.
That was painful to listen to, I gave up at 21 to 0.
Yes there a quarterback question in New England, even if Belichick isn't saying it. It almost like Jones is not comfortable with the plays being called or trusting them.
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Jones is booty. It’s not a question. Dude isn’t good enough
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Rooting against Green Bay isn't as much fun now that Rodgers is gone.
I'm still glad they lost though.
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Washington! Back to mediocrity.
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Niners lose to the Browns!?
Stop the world, I need to get off.
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Lions up 20 to 6 over the Bucs with a little over a minute to go.
There was a time not too long ago when it was complete and utter hubris to say the words "insurmountable lead" about the Lions in this kind of situation, regardless of the score.
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Looks like the NFL has run out of undefeated teams again this year.
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genuinely awful call to end the giants-bills game.
that said, the go-ahead touchdown throw by josh allen was sick. absolutely filthy.
look at this and then take a shower https://x.com/SethWalder/status/1713754105737248817?s=20
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Weird day. Eagles and 49ers lose, Bills barely escape... strangeness abounds.
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Weird day. Eagles and 49ers lose, Bills barely escape... strangeness abounds.
That is not dead which can in Cleveland lie
And in stranger aeons, even the Jets may fly
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That is not dead which can in Cleveland lie
And in stranger aeons, even the Jets may fly
It's... it's beautiful, man.
*goes back to throwing darts at a Russell Wilson doll*
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Niners lose to the Browns!?
Stop the world, I need to get off.
Super weird game to watch. Caught the first half, Browns D really came on during the game.
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Its a good time to be a Lions fan, 5-1, it would 2 or 3 seasons to have 5 wins.
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Its a good time to be a Lions fan, 5-1, it would 2 or 3 seasons to have 5 wins.
And by the end of the month, they may for all intents and purposes have the division clinched.
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It's a Mad, Mad, Mad World.
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I see the Lions finally rediscovered their form.
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Terrible.
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The Harbaugh brothers outscored Michigan-based teams 87-6 this weekend
SF@MIN tonight. I work near downtown so I need to be the ****** out of there by 3:30
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The Harbaugh brothers outscored Michigan-based teams 87-6 this weekend
SF@MIN tonight. I work near downtown so I need to be the ****** out of there by 3:30
Well, one of the Harbaugh teams is Michigan based....
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SF@MIN tonight. I work near downtown so I need to be the ****** out of there by 3:30
No Deebo and maybe no McCaffery or Trent Williams. Gonna be a really wonky game offensively for San Fran if those three cats don't play.
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I’m less interested in the game than getting away from the tens of thousands coming to see it
The over/under is 43.5. With all the injuries I expect the under
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The Lions got their tails kicked....and you can hear people get off the bandwagon.
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No team has ever gone to a Super Bowl after losing to Kirk Cousins in that season. It's a weird stat, but it's true.
So... maybe next year, SF.
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a vile contagion indeed
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No team has ever gone to a Super Bowl after losing to Kirk Cousins in that season. It's a weird stat, but it's true.
So... maybe next year, SF.
Eyeball test to me said the Niners without Trent Williams are easier to pressure and don't run the ball near as effectively. No offense to the backup.
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No team has ever gone to a Super Bowl after losing to Kirk Cousins in that season. It's a weird stat, but it's true.
So... maybe next year, SF.
I had a feeling they were doomed when I saw the 49ers falling into a yawning garbage pit of failure and suck was the only way to keep the Bears from being the only team in their division to notch a win this week. The Bears had that moment in the sun, reality had to come crashing down on them somehow, and so the 49ers had to fall. It was simply fate.
Or they accidentally carried something back from the Factory of Sadness that's going to hang around the 49ers' collective neck like an albatross until they can beat the Browns and make amends to the nameless entities that reign in football Hell.
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Another one of those memes that could be posted on two different threads...
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It certainly is something, that the Lions and the Red Wings scored the same number of points on the same day...
The Lions got their tails kicked....and you can hear people get off the bandwagon.
I'm a forever-Detroit fan, but I'm not going to write this Detroit season off over a single game. I also certainly don't, and haven't, expected a Super Bowl run from them - though as I've said before, we Detroit fans can dream...
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Detroit was made irrelevant by one bad game the same way Denver's season was salvaged by beating the Packers.
Nope. Takes more than one regular-season game in October to ruin or fix a season. Now, a FEW games, like what we're seeing suddenly from the 49ers, or the couple of concerning 'wait, so you can only run up the score on bad teams?' games from Miami, that's different.
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My posts are just commenting on the talk in our area, memes being part of that. Everyone is bagging on the Lions now, but the seats will still be filled for the rest of the season.
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All good, the meme was a good one! :cheesy:
I think opinions will shift back in favor of the Lions as long as they return to form. But, considering the history of the franchise, any sign of faltering will immediately have people pointing fingers. It's going to take years of playing well and consistently to erase that stigma.
I'd honestly like to see the whole NFC North become a strong division. I guess after years of watching the Lions struggle, I don't personally feel an intense rivalry. I have similar feelings about the collegiate Big Ten Conference, though I prefer certain teams over others...
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Exactly. If the Lions can keep up a solid 30 or 40 seasons playing at this level, we'll eventually see .500 as a franchise! azn
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The Lions at 5-2 under Dan Campbell have my confidence. The last two seasons they had horrible starts and ended on positive streaks ( 0-10-1, finished 3-13-1, then 1-6 last year and finished 9-8). I’m sure he’ll get them back to gnawing off knee caps in short order here.
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Unbelievably ass game in the battle for the medowlands. 27 punts. 3-32 combine on third down. Overtime. Giant’s QB sounds like he had a fake name. Clown shit. Worst game I’ve seen since jets-cardinals in 2012 where some imposter named Ryan Lindley snuck onto the field and played QB for the cards.
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https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/report-kirk-cousins-tore-his-achilles-out-for-season
It is common agreement that Achilles = retirement, yes? It's still too soon to see but does that mean the Curse of Kirk might be broken this season?
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Not really, no. Sports medicine has come a long way in the past 20-30 years. The athlete is definitely diminished though. There is a zero percent chance he’s back this year and most likely not be back by opening day next year.
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Age definitely plays into it as well. Determination is also a factor.
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Lions take down the Raiders handily. Lions fans, lets just forget last week.
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Lions take down the Raiders handily. Lions fans, lets just forget last week.
This is a world where the Lions are tied with the Superbowl winning Chiefs at 6-2.
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This is a world where the Lions are tied with the Superbowl winning Chiefs at 6-2.
I dare not utter that, let alone put it into print!
But you aren't lion, no no... :grin:
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The bandwagon is taking a tour of Detroit this morning.
Just remember it took multiple seasons for the Lions to get 6 wins.
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I'd just like to take a moment to congratulate the Kansas City Chiefs on managing to put up fewer points and allowing more points against the Denver Broncos than the ongoing cheese wedge-shaped implosion that is the Green Bay Packers.
Detroit was made irrelevant by one bad game the same way Denver's season was salvaged by beating the Packers.
What about making the Chiefs look even worse than the Packers? Does that salvage anything?
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I imagine Jadehellbringer may still be trying to figure out what reality he's in right now.
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I think the biggest question in the NFL right now is what the hell happened to the Niners?
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Injuries at several key positions and defensive coordinators working out what to do with purdy
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I'd just like to take a moment to congratulate the Kansas City Chiefs on managing to put up fewer points and allowing more points against the Denver Broncos than the ongoing cheese wedge-shaped implosion that is the Green Bay Packers.
What about making the Chiefs look even worse than the Packers? Does that salvage anything?
The Chiefs are good for one "the ******?" game a year and this seems like the one.
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Interesting graphic here. It displays many things that some of us already knew, but perhaps more that we did not know. It's mostly football-oriented, though the hockey fans may get a laugh out of the Canadian part.
I can say that the Michigan and Ohio parts are entirely accurate.
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(https://images.spot.im/image/upload/q_70,fl_lossy,dpr_3,h_100,w_80,c_scale/v200/63ba671e106e4bcd2f028ac30d5eed7c)
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I don't think VA is correct. There are a ton of Cowboys fans here. Most of them probably have never stepped foot in Texas either.
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I don't think VA is correct. There are a ton of Cowboys fans here. Most of them probably have never stepped foot in Texas either.
I think, more revealing, would be a breakout of favorite teams and how many of those fans hate Dallas. Not saying all that many are Washington fans in the least but there is a big transient military population that may have Philly, SF, NYG, and other affiliations that likewise don't like Dallas. Just a thought.
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I don't think VA is correct. There are a ton of Cowboys fans here. Most of them probably have never stepped foot in Texas either.
I've told them Texas Roadhouse doesn't count! But I think they thought I was making a math joke.
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I imagine Jadehellbringer may still be trying to figure out what reality he's in right now.
That's generally my default setting anyway. Roll out of bed, open an energy drink, ask myself what fresh hell this is, feed the cats.
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Fans: Hey Roger, Thursday Night Football is kind of bad.
Roger: don’t worry fam I got u. Have some CAR@CHI
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Fans: Hey Roger, Thursday Night Football is kind of bad.
Roger: don’t worry fam I got u. Have some CAR@CHI
I wonder if there's a permutation in which Chicago's best strategy is to play for a tie to increase their draft positions....
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Fans: Hey Roger, Thursday Night Football is kind of bad.
Roger: don’t worry fam I got u. Have some CAR@CHI
Imagine having the power to flex a game out of a prime-time slot, and deciding 'nah'.
Al Michaels should get hazard pay for having to call this debacle.
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Maybe they're banking that people who like to watch trainwrecks will tune in?
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That's generally my default setting anyway. Roll out of bed, open an energy drink, ask myself what fresh hell this is, feed the cats.
Whichever hell this is, we know that you brought it.
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Whichever hell this is, we know that you brought it.
Now, now, he's not the only Hellbringer. He's just the green one. Today looks more puce to me.
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It has come to my attention that the bears hold Carolina’s first round pick (currently the first pick). I find this really ****** funny.
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Lions hold on tight for the win against the Chargers, when very few of the prognosticators favored Detroit.
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Lmao the jets keep shitting in America in prime time
That Germany game this morning. WOOF.
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I missed the morning game, how embarrassing was it?
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the final drive was emblematic. pats needs a TD and are trying to drive the length of the field with about 90 seconds left. around mid-field bailey zappe decides to go full galaxy brain and do a fake spike then throw into triple coverage. bill's reaction indicated this was not indeed the call.
Final - Colts 10 Pats 6
Combined Drive Chart:
FIELD GOAL
TOUCHDOWN
PUNT
PUNT
PUNT
PUNT
PUNT
PUNT
PUNT
MISSED FG
END OF HALF
INTERCEPTION
MISSED FG
PUNT
FIELD GOAL
FIELD GOAL
INTERCEPTION
PUNT
INTERCEPTION
KNEEL DOWN
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Games like that make me wonder if the German fans will forgive us. (Also Belichick lost, so there's that)
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The Germans are finally digesting Ice Hockey (which should not have been a flex, yet it was indeed a flex), American Football may be a bridge too far, especially with stinkers like that game as their intro to it.
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Now, now, he's not the only Hellbringer. He's just the green one. Today looks more puce to me.
Alright, I'll grant him that. :cheesy:
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Can somebody please explain to me why Fox waited untill the final two minutes of that dumpster fire to switch to a better game?
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I was reminded that 55 years ago, NBC cut away from Raiders - Jets for the network broadcasting of heidi. In light of the result of last nights’s contest, that should become an active tradition
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The Germans are finally digesting Ice Hockey (which should not have been a flex, yet it was indeed a flex), American Football may be a bridge too far, especially with stinkers like that game as their intro to it.
They seemed to like the Chiefs - Dolphins game.
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All of you, drop what you're doing and count to 11.
Done?
OK, good. Each of you that did so is apparently overqualified to be a sideline coach for the Buffalo Bills. NO ONE caught that there were 12 guys out there for a game-ending FG that you all knew for several real-time minutes was coming? There was NO ONE checking to make sure the right personnel were out there?
Denver moved heaven and earth to fail this game. As bad as Buffalo was in the first half about handing the ball to the Broncos- turnovers, three-and-outs, etc.- Denver got, what, six points off all of that if I recall. All game long it was like this- like a 'W' was a live grenade that they kept tossing back and forth to each other. Even that last drive to get that FG was only possible thanks to a boneheaded PI call to keep the sputtering Denver offense moving.
All so they could line up twelve guys, watch Will Lutz miss (because that's what he does in Denver), and look baffled that they got called for it and gave him a second chance.
I never played football as a kid- I did hockey. But if I have the wrong number of guys on the ice, I'm shouting my lungs off to get people to the bench so we don't get a too-many-men penalty. Six- no more than that, period. Goalie, five skaters, end of story. How the Bills' entire coaching staff missed a basic count like that last night is beyond me. They fired their offensive coordinator this morning, but he doesn't manage the special teams- he's a scapegoat, one who has plenty of reason to be cleaning out his desk mind you, but he's not the only person who should be getting a pink slip today in Orchard Park.
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How they managed to throttle Miami a month ago is beyond me.
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I am fairly certain the only throttle Denver did with Miami was keeping it wide open.
Oh you meant the Bills
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I am fairly certain the only throttle Denver did with Miami was keeping it wide open.
Oh you meant the Bills
I have very few kind things to say about the Denver offense at this point, but when it comes to the defense, that Miami game feels like it was a long, long time ago at this point. It may not be a top-tier unit like what the Browns are, but it's not the same group that let Miami have a boat race on them either. Very impressed with what they've done over the past month.
...of course, next up for them is the man, the myth, the legend himself, Josh Dobbs, so that's not good news.
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I guess they're used to shit like this happening in Cleveland by now: https://www.nfl.com/news/browns-qb-deshaun-watson-to-undergo-season-ending-shoulder-surgery (https://www.nfl.com/news/browns-qb-deshaun-watson-to-undergo-season-ending-shoulder-surgery)
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I guess they're used to shit like this happening in Cleveland by now: https://www.nfl.com/news/browns-qb-deshaun-watson-to-undergo-season-ending-shoulder-surgery (https://www.nfl.com/news/browns-qb-deshaun-watson-to-undergo-season-ending-shoulder-surgery)
https://www.audacy.com/923thefan/sports/carman-in-full-on-desperation-mode-with-watson-done-for-year
It's not over till its over (but i hope the discussion of extending Stefanski's contract is Tabled because this might, might get ugly)
I read on NBC sports about the suggestion of Break Glass for Tom Brady...
When I was leaving school (my GI BILL is at Use or Lose) and since I moved to Youngstown, Mr. Rome was wondering why C-Town was NOT flooding his show with calls (the reason? 92.3 in CLE is a CBS affiliate and Baskin and Phelps is on at his timeslot so maybe, we're calling someone local to b*tch & moan...)
So yeah, the suck is real and turning off the radio is always a option on game day in Cleveland. Unless Desaun shows some integrity and lowers his paycheck to respectable levels (insanity move that no one would ever do), I think its over and our good assets will move on to actual competitors, our coach will be replaced by some hobo from E55th and Euclid and the fan base WILL move on... Maybe the Cavs?
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The sad thing is that Cleveland had a very good chance of wining the North before this happened. Baltimore has the uncanny ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Cincinnati is the biggest Jeckel and Hyde team in the league (and it's anyone's guess which version is going to show up any given week). And finally, Pittsburgh has to be the biggest bunch of pretenders I've seen in a long time.
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https://www.nfl.com/news/bengals-qb-joe-burrow-has-torn-wrist-ligament-to-miss-remainder-of-2023-season (https://www.nfl.com/news/bengals-qb-joe-burrow-has-torn-wrist-ligament-to-miss-remainder-of-2023-season)
It seems the Steelers are an injury to Lamar Jackson away from having the best quarterback in the division.
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https://www.nfl.com/news/bengals-qb-joe-burrow-has-torn-wrist-ligament-to-miss-remainder-of-2023-season (https://www.nfl.com/news/bengals-qb-joe-burrow-has-torn-wrist-ligament-to-miss-remainder-of-2023-season)
It seems the Steelers are an injury to Lamar Jackson away from having the best quarterback in the division.
Maybe I misheard but supposedly this injury occurred a week ago, the game prior to Thursday (and they HID IT)
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I heard that too.
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:shocked: :rolleyes: OK! Is it me or have a lot of QB going down of late. I don't remember seeing this many QB going down in 50 years of watching the NFL. My first 9 years were else where from 59 year on this earth. I see another strange NFL season for this year.
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https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=883528279790447&set=pcb.883528663123742
Happy to hear this gentleman back on the airwaves... Very happy to pound PIT Into the dirt...
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Lions win against the Bears after trailing most of the game. The comeback was completed in the last few minutes of the 4th quarter.
Goff threw 3 interceptions against the Bears' defense that was rated 26th in the league vs the pass.
Everything is screaming that there are Big Problems if you are coming back to beat Chicago this season.
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Maybe I misheard but supposedly this injury occurred a week ago, the game prior to Thursday (and they HID IT)
This has been alleged and evidently the NFL is looking into it but he did look pretty good up until he went out of the game. They could just still be salty because Tom Brady got away with it for a whole season.
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This has been alleged and evidently the NFL is looking into it but he did look pretty good up until he went out of the game. They could just still be salty because Tom Brady got away with it for a whole season.
Hey look Tom Brady was a Cyborg for years and the NFL never cared.. :evil:
Yep he was wearing a compression sleeve while on the plane, but he looked good until that TD Pass.
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Lions win against the Bears after trailing most of the game. The comeback was completed in the last few minutes of the 4th quarter.
Goff threw 3 interceptions against the Bears' defense that was rated 26th in the league vs the pass.
Everything is screaming that there are Big Problems if you are coming back to beat Chicago this season.
I took this game more positive: Detroit didn’t implode, they kept in it, Goff actually recovered from his early (bad) mistakes, and the defense came through and sealed the game. But yes, I’d rather they just streamrolled Chicago instead of making it close.
On another note, what’s the most unsafe place to be in the NFL? Leading by 8 or less against a Russell Wilson led team with about 3 minutes left in the 4th. Still about 40 seconds left, but by god, I don’t think Russell’s ever heard a fat lady sing.
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I took this game more positive: Detroit didn’t implode, they kept in it, Goff actually recovered from his early (bad) mistakes, and the defense came through and sealed the game. But yes, I’d rather they just streamrolled Chicago instead of making it close.
On another note, what’s the most unsafe place to be in the NFL? Leading by 8 or less against a Russell Wilson led team with about 3 minutes left in the 4th. Still about 40 seconds left, but by god, I don’t think Russell’s ever heard a fat lady sing.
Can't argue there, though I can clarify - I'm just concerned about when we will see an implosion.
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I have come to accept I now live to witness the insanity that is the youtuber and Broncos super fan Brandon Perna and how truly deranged he is now. Tomorrow is going to be some epic youtube.
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I've got to ask, deranged how so? After that win I can only imagine...
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It was the same Broncos. The defense suddenly looks monstrous (credit to Vance Joseph for turning things around, genuine kudos), and an offense that is genuinely offensive. Russ actually threw a couple of good passes last night- that last TD to Sutton was a dart!- but most of his plays are still the panic-checkdown passes to his right for a two-yard gain, the running game has been mostly crap, and the penalties are just soul-crushing. The record shows a four-game win streak, but game tape shows a team that managed to win via luck and/or turnovers over KC, Buffalo, and Minnesota. Those could just as easily be losses, and I wouldn't bat an eye.
Buuuuut, even that kind of momentum is a nice change from the start of the year, or last year for that matter (or really everything since 2015), so... okay, four in a row, keep it going against the Browns I guess? I don't have to understand it- or even like it- to get a little satisfaction out of it.
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I've got to ask, deranged how so? After that win I can only imagine...
Well in Perna's last top ten video he put the Broncos one and two.
But truly only Jadehellbringer probably understands without having to actually watch everything Perna's put out for the last season and a half.
And of course the sheer chaos of the collab videos Perna does with Tom Grossi give me no small amount of entertainment either.
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One thing about the Lions - Chicago game is divisional games can always be crazy. If there's going to be a WTF game it's either a Cowboys - Niners game or any divisional game. :D
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Valdez-Scantling must be doing his off-season workouts with Nelson Agholor. :shocked:
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One thing about the Lions - Chicago game is divisional games can always be crazy. If there's going to be a WTF game it's either a Cowboys - Niners game or any divisional game. :D
I was just dismayed that the Bears looked like they might pull an upset. But crisis averted in the final minutes. It just does go to show - anything can happen, there are no guarantees.
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It’s why I consider gambling on the NFL the preserve of insane people
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It’s why I consider gambling on the NFL the preserve of insane people
Hey, even most of us insane people know better.
I tried the sanity thing once. It's overrated.
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It’s why I consider gambling on the NFL the preserve of insane people
I'm not sane enough to bet on any kind of sports. I take all the internet talk about officials influencing games due to payoffs from gambling on the NFL, NHL, NBA, etc, seriously enough to not let them have my money that easily. It all tracks.
I'll stick to poker.
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I put a pair of $5 bets down on the Texas Rangers to win the WS this year with the expectation that they would make the playoffs and I could cash out with a small profit. I cashed one out for a small profit and rode the other to a nice payday!
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The last time I bet on a NFL game I was sure that bastard Norwood could kick a 47 yard field goal. I was wrong.
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Turkey Day: Revenge of the Pack.
Lions fall to the Packers. But everyone ate dinner and took a nap, so we're not too grumpy about it. Have a few drinks and enjoy the night.
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Forgot to mention...
::cough cough:: Dolly ::cough cough::
Not a boomer but I don't exactly care either - amazing is amazing!
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Thursdays usually only gift us one bootyass game. Today we got three!
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Thursdays usually only gift us one bootyass game. Today we got three!
Don’t forget today’s Jets v Dolphins for a Friday bootyass bonus. :shocked:
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As an appetizer you can watch Iowa at Nebraska in college ball. It has an o/u of 24.5, the lowest in modern memory. There could be 20 total punts. Absolutely astounding levels of ineptitude.
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Iowa played Northwestern at Wrigley Field this year. It was the sixth highest scoring game at that stadium this year.
The other five were baseball games.
Iowa's combination of historically bad offense and very good defense is incredible, in the sense that I am incredulous at it
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Thursdays usually only gift us one bootyass game. Today we got three!
Indeed. It was a three-fold Turkey Day with regard to football.
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As an appetizer you can watch Iowa at Nebraska in college ball. It has an o/u of 24.5, the lowest in modern memory. There could be 20 total punts. Absolutely astounding levels of ineptitude.
They hit the under, 😂, 23 total points. Watching Texas v Texas Tech and saw the “highlight” during halftime. It started with “one minute left” and the score was 10-10, 😂
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It was performance art
Back to back interceptions with time running out. Then Iowa was just going to set up a long field goal or overtime and accidentally ran for 22 yards into the red zone and walked off with the field goal.
Nebraska lost.
People who bet Nebraska -2.5 lost.
People who bet the over lost.
People who bet Iowa under ten wins lost.
Nebraska didn’t make a bowl game.
Iowa will play for the big ten championship and was one bad call on a punt return against Minnesota from being a serious playoff contender.
Their most valuable player is their punter.
The most wins a team has accumulated previously with this few yards per game was *four*
This offense is an affront to god and man.
Kirk Ferentz, you beautiful bastard. 10/10 no notes
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Lmao
https://x.com/ADavidHaleJoint/status/1728152518738260466?s=20
https://x.com/BenScottStevens/status/1728150573437075477?s=20
https://x.com/AndyGlobokar/status/1728151812073549921?s=20
https://x.com/Matt_Fortuna/status/1728148927742918689?s=20
https://x.com/MCFick/status/1728158847817195917?s=20
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X?
Never heard of it! :smilie_happy_thumbup:
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Michigan beat Ohio State. Ohio came prepared but fell short to the one team who was caught stealing signs this year. (All the good ones do it, and a lot of bad ones too)
But to be honest, neither the Wolverines or the Buckeyes would have a chance against Georgia or Alabama. SEC will run the table again.
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Stealing signs isn't illegal.
The method Michigan was using to steal signs was illegal.
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Stealing signs isn't illegal.
The method Michigan was using to steal signs was illegal.
Can't argue there. Harbaugh knows what he did. His pawns looked suspicious and anyone with suspicions was proven correct.
But the Wolverines won't be the last team to get into trouble for this. Too much of a premium is placed on winning.
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so what exactly did they do to steal signs?
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Check it out here:
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-football/news/michigan-sign-stealing-investigation-ncaa-football/9b58c9f812cc14d778e17ac8
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So in simple terms this is like the MKB Astros "stealing signs", and if you tell me no one else is doing it, I won't beleive you.
And much like MLB, I doubt NCAA will really want to fully look into this as well it a rabbit hole you can do down and destroy the game for fans.
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If anything, Harbaugh needs to get smacked so he goes about things in a more subtle way in the future.
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you must be unfamiliar with the work of jim harbaugh
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you must be unfamiliar with the work of jim harbaugh
Both Harbaugh brothers are so unfamiliar with the word subtle, they still pronounce the “b” in it. 😆
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you must be unfamiliar with the work of jim harbaugh
One of them needs to learn, and I bet it can be done. I wouldn't bet much, maybe a few bucks and a hot-and-ready pizza, but I still bet one of them can learn subtlety...
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very hard to discipline a man who can just take his ball and go to the NFL the second he decides he doesn't want to put up with the NCAA's shit. especially a man this ****** weird.
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very hard to discipline a man who can just take his ball and go to the NFL the second he decides he doesn't want to put up with the NCAA's shit. especially a man this ****** weird.
No doubt, that's why I'd only wager a Little Caesar's pizza and the cost to get a 2-liter of pop.
And he is a strange one. Unironically, dressing as him in a sweatshirt and khaki shorts has been a huge Halloween gag for local guys since he was hired.
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He’s moved on to khaki shorts? I thought his thing was khaki slacks from Target or Walmart back in his 49er days.
Regardless how weird the guy is, I still enjoyed watching that 1995 Colts team he was part of that ultimately fell short to the Steelers in the AFC championship game. That’ll always be one of those “…if they’d have made it to the Super Bowl…” moments.
Back On Topic: I can’t tell if Phili just can’t lose, or if Buffalo just can’t win. It was a fun watch, though. Hard to believe that one loss they have is to the Jets. Tough test for the Eagles the next two games though with San Fran and Dallas.
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Perhaps there should be an NCAA Football thread since there seems to be some interest in that?
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Well he didn't have to be there for Michigan to beat Ohio State, again so it must not just be about illegal scouting. Unless Ohio State was still using the same signs a month or more after the story broke in which case they deserve what they got.
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Bills are 6-6. The way they’ve been playing and with what’s left on the schedule they could conceivably lose nine games and miss the playoffs
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If anything, Harbaugh needs to get smacked so he goes about things in a more subtle way in the future.
U mean like MLB did and then closed their eyes and ears to other reports of teams doing the same thing.Perhaps there should be an NCAA Football thread since there seems to be some interest in that?
right now NCAA football is more interesting then the NFL or at least more understandable..
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NCAA football is more interesting then the NFL or at least more understandable..
Perhaps all the more reason to create a thread for it rather than continuing to clutter up an NFL thread?
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Bills are 6-6. The way they’ve been playing and with what’s left on the schedule they could conceivably lose nine games and miss the playoffs
Socials are saying Buffalo made sure to lose by three in order to honor Damar Hamlin.
The Bills will surely adopt this excuse officially as soon as they are aware it exists.
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That last gasp play from the Vikings needed the Benny Hill theme played over it.
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the vikings-bears was so awful that it was good.
six total turnovers. so much bullshit in the second half that there was only one punt. in said half, the bears outscored the vikings 9-7.
the vikings almost executed the perfect Iowa Gambit - after the second bear's fumble, they went three and out to burn chicago's timeouts. they then took a delay of game penalty and punted from the bears 48. but unlike Iowa Punt God Tory Taylor, the punt veered wide and went out of bounds at the 22. my favorite part of the drive was with under a minute left, fields found moore for a gain of 36. vikings immediately call time out. then subsequently are penalized out of said timeout for too many men on the field.
what a stupid sport.
Drive Chart:
CHI - MISSED FG
MIN - PUNT
CHI - FIELD GOAL
MIN - INTERCEPTION
CHI - PUNT
MIN - INTERCEPTION
CHI - PUNT
MIN - PUNT
CHI - PUNT
MIN - FIELD GOAL
MIN - DOWNS
CHI - FIELD GOAL
MIN - INTERCEPTION
CHI - FIELD GOAL
MIN - INTERCEPTION
CHI - FUMBLE
MIN - TOUCHDOWN
CHI - FUMBLE
MIN - PUNT
CHI - FIELD GOAL
MIN - END OF GAME
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WTF.. we need better NFL games..
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That last gasp play from the Vikings needed the Benny Hill theme played over it.
That entire game needed it. What an absolute shit-show.
My favorite comment I came across about it last night: "At least Justin Jefferson isn't alive to have to see this... wait, really?"
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WTF.. we need better NFL games..
Unfortunately, for every masterpiece like Sunday's Eagles/Bills game were going to have a turd like last night. :sad:
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The ratio is probably closer to 1 nugget per 6-8 turds
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Well, when there's all of about ten good teams in the league this year...
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Some of these good teams make you wonder, too. While over-all the Lions are 8-2, they're 1-2 against those few other good teams, which indicates trouble if people think the Lions are going to roll to the Holy Grail of Sorrow, which is winning a playoff game for the first time since 1992.
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Some of these good teams make you wonder, too. While over-all the Lions are 8-2, they're 1-2 against those few other good teams, which indicates trouble if people think the Lions are going to roll to the Holy Grail of Sorrow, which is winning a playoff game for the first time since 1992.
Same is true for the Cowboys and the Dolphins just off the top of my head. Neither have beaten a +.500 team that I'm aware of. There's also just the factor of just any given Sunday. A bad team has a really good game and a good team has a really bad game. If these two teams happen to be playing each other weird things happen.
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Same is true for the Cowboys and the Dolphins just off the top of my head. Neither have beaten a +.500 team that I'm aware of. There's also just the factor of just any given Sunday. A bad team has a really good game and a good team has a really bad game. If these two teams happen to be playing each other weird things happen.
Miami beat Denver, which has BECOME an over-.500 team, but at the time were lunch meat.
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Good
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PHI
Good?
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SF
KC
MIA
BAL
DAL
DET
Hey, you ok?
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BUF (current 15% chance to make the playoffs)
Interchangeable Chaff
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PIT (and yet overachieving)
CLE
IND
HOU (qb excepted)
JAX (current win total feels like some kind of cheap illusion)
DEN (climbing!)
NO
SEA
LAR
Bad
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NYJ (vomit offense, good defense)
CIN
TEN
LV
MIN (why aren't you tanking, you fools)
GB (JLove ain't it)
ATL (division leader!)
TB
Vomit
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LAC (demoted because of coach)
NYG
WAS
CHI
Clearly Tanking
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NE
CAR (lmao)
ARI
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You can question mark the Chiefs if you want but I'm full confident that barring catastrophic injury there will be a 6th annual Arrowhead Invitational come this January. :cool:
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they have a good path to the #1 seed as their remaining schedule is mostly a parade of lame. but they have too many close games for me to not think they're going to ****** around and find out somewhere playoffs.
@GB
BUF
@NE
LV
CIN
@LAC
they should go no worse than 5-1
Miami's finish ends a lot rougher.
@WAS
TEN
NYJ
DAL
@BAL
BUF
if you're a football sicko like me, you may be rooting for jacksonville to backdoor this if the Real Contenders™ trip on themselves
CIN
@CLE
BAL
@TB
CAR
@TEN
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Alex Smith was 2-0 against Tom Brady yet for some reason no one ever said those Patriots better watch for the very good reason that other than seeding the regular season means jack squat. Mohomes and Reid also adhere to this principle. Plenty of people have doubted the Chiefs for the last five years yet they have 2 SB rings regardless. I won't be shocked at all when they get their third come this February.
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i often don't talk to nfl fans that are fans of specific teams and forget they're either completely confident to the point of delusion or the most pessimistic ****** on planet earth.
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I will believe the Chiefs do not host the AFCCG the moment two teams that aren't the Chiefs walk on the field to start that game and not a moment sooner.
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On December 18th Monday Night Football will have its first ever flex. The scheduled Chiefs-Pats matchup will be replaced by Seahawks -Eagles.
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I don't have the ability to watch MNF so I don't care. If I did though I'd be pretty hot.
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On December 18th Monday Night Football will have its first ever flex. The scheduled Chiefs-Pats matchup will be replaced by Seahawks -Eagles.
the nfl has performed a public service by take the patriots out of prime time
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the nfl has performed a public service by take the patriots out of prime time
It was enough that Old Yeller was shot, no one needed to actually see it happen.
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It was enough that Old Yeller was shot, no one needed to actually see it happen.
*Robert Kraft hefts a shotgun and motions for Bill Belichick to come on behind the barn*
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*Robert Kraft hefts a shotgun and motions for Bill Belichick to come on behind the barn*
If only...
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Depends on how good the necromancer they hired to bring his career back from the dead is.
But at least Thursday night's game wasn't completely horrible last night.
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At this point in the season I equally expect Flacco go bonkers and have the best season of his career and to completely stink up the joint or maybe both. It's been that kind of season.
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please continue with your previously scheduled commentary on Joe Flacco's skills.
His QB skills were good enough for a hot streak but man his contract negotiation skills are like a poor man's Kirk Cousins.
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so has the NFL every swapped a mon night game before?
And I know if I had tickets and planned around a monday event, which might have had hotel room, etc.. I would not be impressed.
That being said they made the right call, because the Pats look horrible. Matt Jones..
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At this point in the season I equally expect Flacco go bonkers and have the best season of his career and to completely stink up the joint or maybe both. It's been that kind of season.
Anecdotally, I was in on a conversation on FB about the "worst QB to win a Superbowl". Flacco and Trent Dilfer were commonly thrown out there.
But a lot of us older guys had to make sure to let people know how bad Jeff Hostetler actually was back in the day.
So there's that.
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so has the NFL every swapped a mon night game before?
And I know if I had tickets and planned around a monday event, which might have had hotel room, etc.. I would not be impressed.
Not Mondays, but they've been flexing Sunday night games since they became a thing.
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I think it's a shame. Just imagine the wonderful spectable of Pats going towards the alltime loosing streak on primetime monday night Tv.
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i have to imagine they gave up on winning another game weeks ago. they're starting a quarterback named bailey zappe. bill probably likes drake maye out of north carolina.
but GM bill isn't coach bill. if he wiffs on this next qb, it's retirement time.
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(I just watch the NFL highlights on youtube since my local sports netword dropped NFL):
Wow, Pats vs whoever.. Wow... what a sad sad game.
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In light of the swamp booty officiating in Green Bay:
https://x.com/cjzero/status/1731531907614101753?s=20
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Russ, you're in white today. WHITE. Throw to the guys in WHITE.
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Lions piled on early then held on to come away with the W, despite the Saints putting up a better fight than was reasonably expected.
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(I just watch the NFL highlights on youtube since my local sports netword dropped NFL):
Wow, Pats vs whoever.. Wow... what a sad sad game.
here was all the good part of the Pats game (https://www.newscentermaine.com/article/news/local/lewiston-auburn/lewiston-soccer-new-england-patriots-game-gillette-stadium-lighthouse/97-46b37f01-92ff-4090-89d3-7661ca1df3ff)
#Lewiston Strong
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Just my luck I passed on last night's game thinking it would be a blowout. It wound up being arguably the best game of the week.
What a week for upsets!
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big game for miami as they are now on the inside track for the first seed. based on their season, i'd say they need homefield throughout more than most other teams. jacksonville is probably the same in that respect but i don't think many take them seriously as a contender.
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3rd quarter, Pitt vs NE.
Are the Steelers really this bad?
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you've been hit by
you've been struck by
a bailey zappe three TD first half??
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Are the Steelers really this bad?
Yes, yes they are. Though that call against the Pittsburgh snapper for a false start was BS and likely cost them the game.
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LOL... The mirth of it all! :smilie_party_cheers:
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In the course of 5 days, the Steelers went from 7-4 to 7-6 with back to back matchups with 2 win teams. They could’ve, and most likely expected to, come out of this game sitting at 9-4.
The Steelers are definitely “that bad” with Trubisky in at quarterback. I had such high hopes for him when he started out with the Bears, too.
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Toney is going to turn Mahomes into the Joker.
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Andy Reid really needs to get with his guys about the neutral zone. First Dee Ford, now this. 😂 😂 😂
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Yeah, that was probably the most painful penalty I've seen in a while. Deserved, all the same.
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Bears. Lions try to stand tall then those Bears knock them right down. Last game against Chicago was bad enough that the Bears even made it close. Then yesterday we saw them play a complete game and expose the Lions.
Now we need to know who is the real Detroit Lions. The team who can take down the reigning champs, or the team that struggles against the woeful Bears?
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The people getting off the Bandwagon in Detroit is very impressive.
The weird thing about the Lions is that when times sucked they always seemed to beat a much better team than them, but the teams that somehow had a worse record they would lose and badly. So now that the Lions have a positive record it will happen again.
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After seeing it was still scoreless into the fourth, I was really hoping Raiders-Vikings would end in a scoreless tie.
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Just it looked like it was headed that way
HERE COMES NICK MULLENS WITH A STEEL CHAIR
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The Lions have four losses. It’s not the end of the world. I see them getting at least their first playoff win in a while this season. They’re currently a 3rd seed and the only two teams that I think would be unfavorable match ups for Detroit are San Fran and Phili (and the Rams if they can fight their way into the playoffs). Granted, there’s still enough time left for them to go 0-4 over the last four games and not make the playoffs, but I don’t like to think like that.
I thought the 6-0 Chargers v New England game a week ago was a low point, but Vikes v Raiders were like “hold our beer”.
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I don't think the Lions will miss the playoffs, either. But their losses reveal that there is weakness in the organization that needs work if we are going to advance. If the Bears are giving the Lions a hard time, it's a doubly bad sign.
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The people getting off the Bandwagon in Detroit is very impressive.
The weird thing about the Lions is that when times sucked they always seemed to beat a much better team than them, but the teams that somehow had a worse record they would lose and badly. So now that the Lions have a positive record it will happen again.
People may call in and complain on sports radio shows and the like, and online too. But next gameday, every seat at Ford Field will be filled. TV channels will get flipped to the game, people will be working and out and about in town listening to the game through earbuds, and on their radios.
The bandwagon will be there for people to run back to in time for the next game.
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I don't think the Lions will miss the playoffs, either. But their losses reveal that there is weakness in the organization that needs work if we are going to advance. If the Bears are giving the Lions a hard time, it's a doubly bad sign.
I think the Bears are a bad team but without 2 meltdowns against the Bronco's and Lions and they are challenging for NFC North title and wild card slot, I'm not sure whether that is scary or hilarious.
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Yeah, that was probably the most painful penalty I've seen in a while. Deserved, all the same.
I've been baffled for two days now by the reaction from Chiefs fans about that whole thing. He's half a yard offsides- blocking the sideline official's view of the ball, even!- and the flag was thrown before the play started coming together into the spectacle it turned out to be.
Taking off the Broncos fandom hat for a moment, that was a ridiculous play. It was amazing. Highlight reel stuff for YEARS. And it doesn't count. And that SUCKS, because it really was a unique and amazing feat. But if we're saying that rules shouldn't count if they negate a play because that was a sick play, bro, well then what the hell are we even doing here? It wasn't a toe out of place, we're not micromanaging this like we would a foot along the sidelines for a catch, he's half a yard ahead of everyone. (Bonus, it was an illegal formation to boot!)
The refs made the right call. Want to blame someone? Talk to Toney, because it's not the first time he's directly cost the Chiefs a game this season- remember the Lions game in Week 1?
Mahomes can throw tantrums, Reid can grouse about the state of the game, but those are the rules. If it had been Buffalo making an astounding play that got called back, I suspect Reid wouldn't be too vocal about that 'state of the game' nonsense.
...Now, fan hat back on, can you believe that as a result of all this, the god-awful Broncos offense is now a game out of the division lead? Because that defies belief. I doubt that goes anywhere- they have a tough one Saturday against what I expect will be a pissed-off Lions team, then three winnable games, while KC has a tough schedule, but let's be real here. Still though, for it being mid-December and Denver is a game back, despite that awful start, despite an offense best described as 'troubled'... flabbergasted.
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It is the year of pure chaos. And I'm here for all of it.
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The Dolphins get two gift touchdowns in the final minutes, and still lose. :smilie_confused_dontknow:
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It is the year of pure chaos. And I'm here for all of it.
Pure Chaos, like the fact that Joe Flacco has the chance to run the table with Cleveland, lead them to their first franchise Super Bowl win, and finally put a definitive answer to that old “is Joe Flacco an ELITE quarterback?” question. That’d be some chaos, 😂
More Chaos: the Giants have 5 wins. When did that happen?
More: New England is eliminated from playoff contention….and the Jets are still alive?!? Even as a Pats fan, I think this is funny.
Miami is a paper Tiger. Their bandwagon is funner/sexier than Detroit, though, so folks stay on longer. There’s a good chance that week 17 matchup with Buffalo will be a winner wins the division game, and the loser ends up in wildcard or missing the playoffs.
Re: Denver. It’s been noticed. They’ve been grinding along and doing what they need to do to get wins. The Chiefs have a little bit easier last few games, at least to the eyeball test, but it’s still be interesting to watch how Denver has changed themselves around this season. In the pure chaos vein though, Id love to see them come back and usurp the division from KC. 😂
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the vikings, giants, and jets winning too many games
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the vikings, giants, and jets winning too many games
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But not the Commanders. Mediocrity ends in failure with four games to go.
It was amazing. Highlight reel stuff for YEARS. And it doesn't count. And that SUCKS, because it really was a unique and amazing feat.
As a football fan you hit the nail on the head with this part. I like that Mahomes took ownership today, at least per the Washington Post, and said his rant was a bad look. But the technical question I have and still don't understand: why wasn't the play blown dead on the flag? It happens on false starts. There is no reason to run the play as it was illegal from the get-go.
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same case with illegal formation or illegal shift. should they all be dead ball fouls? maybe?
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But not the Commanders. Mediocrity ends in failure with four games to go. As a football fan you hit the nail on the head with this part. I like that Mahomes took ownership today, at least per the Washington Post, and said his rant was a bad look. But the technical question I have and still don't understand: why wasn't the play blown dead on the flag? It happens on false starts. There is no reason to run the play as it was illegal from the get-go.
Not directly quoting from the rule book, but it’s not a penalty until the ball is actually snapped; the player has the chance to get back onside/ reset himself until the ball is snapped (example; had he gone into motion across the formation and reset onside, the fact that he was initially line up offside wouldn’t have mattered). The call is “offside” which means the player was lined up in the neutral zone AT the snap. As opposed to “false start” where the player moves or in someway simulates the snapping of the ball prior to the snap. That would be blown dead, while the “offside” penalty is called “live”, I.e, the play continues. Watching that live, the flag flew up into the screen as Mahomes was ending his drop back, so the ref pretty much threw it on the snap. Mahomes is acting like this never gets called and while it’s not common, it does get called. He did the right thing today and walked it back a bit, and I get his frustration with his teams situation. He really did Toney a favor by acting like he did though. The focus has been more about Mahomes, Reid, and the refs than Toney. I doubt that was planned, but it seems like it worked.
I also can’t believe how overhyped everyone is about the play itself. It was a lateral for a touchdown for a fourth quarter lead change in a regular season game. It wouldn't have necessarily even resulted in a walk off win; Buffalo had a minute and I think three timeouts left. Cool, yes. Exciting, yes. Momentum changing, possibly, we’ll never know since it didn’t happen. But I heard someone on one of the sports shows talking about how “…this wasn’t just a lateral, underhand, but a true backward pass by Kelce…” like Kelce just simultaneously invented the wheel and sliced bread. It wasn’t the Miracle in Miami, or (sorry in advance Buffalo fans) the Music City Miracle (which, to the point about the talking head raving about Kelce, also involved a “backward pass”).
With all that said, this could be just what the Chiefs need to galvanize them for the playoff push here and to get on track.
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With all that said, this could be just what the Chiefs need to galvanize them for the playoff push here and to get on track.
Here's hoping!
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Ruh-roh, raggy...
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/bill-belichick-fired-rumors-patriots-colts/d7d8e0c4133f7eb92715a3bf
Is Belichick just Wayne Fontes with a HoF QB?
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bill as a coach is hall of fame. his defensive schemes are legendary. bill the gm has been Very Bad. if he gets fired, blame gm bill.
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Ruh-roh, raggy...
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/bill-belichick-fired-rumors-patriots-colts/d7d8e0c4133f7eb92715a3bf
Is Belichick just Wayne Fontes with a HoF QB?
Oh man, the Sporting News. I remember when I used to have a subscription to that.
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Sneaky NFL (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39104125/nfl-set-decide-2024-brazil-game-wednesday-source-says), looking for a way to play a regular season game in the spring....
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Oh man, the Sporting News. I remember when I used to have a subscription to that.
i used to buy their fantasy football guide at the grocery store
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bill as a coach is hall of fame. his defensive schemes are legendary. bill the gm has been Very Bad. if he gets fired, blame gm bill.
Sounds fair to me.
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New England has a chance at the number one draft pick, if I’m looking at things right, and if not #1, most definitely the higher end of the top 5, with several top grade QBs available. New England is also going to have a pretty large amount of cap space available along with the high draft position. I think they’d be a bit stupid to get rid of Bill with that coming up.
Then again, if Landry and Jimmy Johnson can get booted as unceremoniously as they did, there’s no reason it couldn’t happen to Bill. Like they say, it’s a tough, what have you done for me lately, kind of business.
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jimmy was a different issue. jerry was pissed the coach was getting all the credit and let his ego make stupid decisions. i think it would be dumb to not let bill have a chance with a strong qb prospect but billionaires are capricious with their toys.
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billionaires are capricious with their toys.
Yep. I’m sure what Kraft and Bill’s relationship is like, particularly compared to Kraft and Brady’s which was more well known.
The two Cowboy coaches were just the two examples that sprang to mind. Jimmy and Jerry had that added aspect of one not liking the other getting all the attention/credit. Honestly Jerry lost the chance to have won 4 in a row. We’ll never know, but that 94 year they lost in the championship to the 9ers and it was competitive with Switzer calling the shots. Granted, too, that particular 9ers team was built and purchased to win it all right this minute and was loaded. That’ll always be one of those “if only” stories I’ll be telling my grandkids.
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A top five pick is good but no guarantee. In many ways one is just as likely to to find a diamond in the rough.
Like when the Pats decided to draft Brian Greise's old backup QB out of UofM with the 199th pick of the 2000 draft. Nobody knew what Tom Brady would turn out to be.
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New England has a chance at the number one draft pick, if I’m looking at things right,
The Panthers have a two game "lead" and look amazingly horrible, I think it's unlikely anyone but the Bears gets the first pick.
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this is from a survey of draft picks from 2010-2017
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80% of first rounders signed a second contract... most with different teams but that's life in a hard cap league. Round 3, the latest where you expect to find immediate starters, clocks in at just under 50%. Round 5 drops to under 30%. we tend to get caught up in creating the mythos around successful late-round picks but 70-plus percent don't make it five years. For the most part, this league is just Disposable Dudes.
The Panthers have a two game "lead" and look amazingly horrible, I think it's unlikely anyone but the Bears gets the first pick.
Drake Maye will probably be there unless the bears get a king's ransom to let someone move up.
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The Panthers have a two game "lead" and look amazingly horrible, I think it's unlikely anyone but the Bears gets the first pick.
That’s what I was unsure of; who has that 1st pick? Carolina or Chicago? I’m assuming Chicago has Carolina’s pick from some prior trade, I just can’t recall which.
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That’s what I was unsure of; who has that 1st pick? Carolina or Chicago? I’m assuming Chicago has Carolina’s pick from some prior trade, I just can’t recall which.
Yes, Chicago has Carolina's pick.
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Yes, Chicago has Carolina's pick.
Thanks.
On a totally different note, is it just me or does Deebo Samuel rush for more TDs as a wide receiver than any other wide receiver? I swear he’s scored a rushing TD in every Niners game I’ve watched. And they’re typically not short TD runs, they’re usually fairly explosive type plays. Every time I see it, I think to myself “and we selected N’Keal Harry when this guy was available”. He currently has 4 receiving TDs and 5 rushing TDs, and career wise he’s got 16 receiving TDs and 19 rushing TDs.
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Shanahan scheming shenanigans
Here’s a good example
https://youtu.be/W8AewU1WcPc?si=lKBdv7wLEUikDual
Motion shifting the formation strength presnap into a play action swing pass look while Samuel swings back around and takes the reverse pitch. Kittle lines up at wide out and snowplows a path to the end zone. It’s diabolical
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Deebo is also a pretty hefty guy for a WR, he's got 46 pounds on Devonte Smith who is also 6'0". And Deebo actually has a faster 40 time.
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I just hope he keeps that ratio up for his career. I think that be a neat distinction to have, being a wide receiver that rushed for more TDs than received over a significant career. And yes, that dude has some “beast” to him as a wideout. He’s a linebacker playing on the wrong side of the ball, 😂
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https://www.49ers.com/video/deebo-samuel-flies-through-the-gap-untouched-for-a-23-yard-touchdown
Another filthy play design
Same action running Samuel from on the line to take the pitch. To get the defense to bite to their left, they put 89 in motion. On the snap they pull the center to the same direction and run play action. The entire defense flows toward what looks like an obvious off tackle power. On the snap, 89 reverses course and attacks the perimeter on the opposite side. The LT rubs off once the line crashes down and hits the second level.
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Jeez…switched on Amazon, realized it was Thursday and checked in on the game with a minute left, Raiders 35-0 and driving. Scored for 42-0 halftime lead. So now I’m just deciding between watching Oppenheimer or Killers of the Flower Moon.
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Yeah, the Chargers did not show up to play. Multiple fumbles recovered by the Raiders, turnovers on downs, and virtually no first downs is just self-murder.
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three turnovers in four possessions that turned into 21 raiders points - not ideal.
stick is 9/13 for 75 yards so far. which was exactly the kind of quarterback he was in college. up until tonight he was really playing a superior sport (hold a clipboard and get paid)
brandon staley is a dead man walking
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up until tonight he was really playing a superior sport (hold a clipboard and get paid)
Lions have had some of those, the most notorious one being Scott "I Brought My Clipboard" Mitchell.
Mitchell was the personification of why Barry Sanders bailed early. There was a host of other reasons, but management's willingness to settle on whatever for QB played a not-so-small role.
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The CHAOS!
Man that was wild.
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brandon staley is a dead man walking
Nailed it.
Hell, Chargers' ownership got him and the horse he rode in on, too.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/why-the-chargers-fired-coach-brandon-staley-and-gm-tom-telesco/ar-AA1lz9bG
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Regardless what kind of coach he was, or how his career eventually goes, I do have to give Staley props for taking the halftime interview with the broadcast sideline reporter during that game instead of just heading into the locker room. Even the announcers commented on it, saying most coaches would’ve skipped it.
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Most coaches have coaching to do during halftime
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Most coaches have coaching to do during halftime
At 42- nothing, I think that ship had sailed, 😂
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Lions and Broncos in a few hours. Should be a good game, but there's no guarantees.
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That’s a good test for both Detroit and Denver; they both are playing well and neither can really afford the loss. I’d even slant it to being more important to Denver trying to catch the Chiefs, vs Detroit that’s still at least in the lead in their division.
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Absolutely.
I'd add this, too: neither team wants to be on record as losing to the other! :smiley_boxers:
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The Bengals just helped Detroit out, too, and put themselves back into the thick of things in the AFC.
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Got to admit - kind of surprised with both the Browns and Bengals showing out to be decent teams.
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lol vikings. i mean they definitely should not be winning games at this point because cousins is not under contract after this season and they absolutely need to draft someone. but losing the game that way is such a meme.
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Goffage busted a fiver on the Broncos.
I fell asleep right before halftime, so missed a lot of it.
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:grin: :cool: :smilie_party_cheers: Hey reb don't feel bad you are not alone. I to fell sleep watching the Lions to around the middle of the 3 rd Q . I got up around middle of 4th Q when they got TD to make it 35 to 17 Lions . I was tire they had 7 minutes go in the 4th and I went to bed. I got up a while ago to check the scores. I will say this whole NFL 2023-2024 season is about strangest I have ever seen in my long years of watching NFL football by the way.
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The St Brown TD made a particularly good highlight.
And in my defense, eating most of a large pizza along with a protein shake will put a lot of people my age out for the count, lol...
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I’m not a gambler but only setting the chiefs -9.5 over the pats feels like free money
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I will say this whole NFL 2023-2024 season is about strangest I have ever seen in my long years of watching NFL football by the way.
does anyone know how to pick games this year???
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have you ever run through a wind tunnel drunk? that's the degree of difficulty right now
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Toney is going to turn Mahomes into the Joker.
https://x.com/awfulannouncing/status/1736489050159174117?s=20
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Obligatory reminder that a Toney drop-turned-pick-six is literally the reason the Lions beat the Chiefs this year.
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Obligatory reminder that a Toney drop-turned-pick-six is literally the reason the Lions beat the Chiefs this year.
Toney is upset that the refs didn't give him a warning in that game that dropping the pass could negate the catch.
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I’m not a gambler but only setting the chiefs -9.5 over the pats feels like free money
That didn't age well though to be fair I wouldn't have taken that bet at the time either.
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Didn't know Purdy was 262nd pick in the draft :)
I think niners got a good deal then.
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Pretty good game between Phili and Seattle. Awesome last drive for Seattle followed by a pretty impressive defensive play for them as well.
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Got to admit...Love how quiet all those Cowboy fans have been on the internet last couple days.
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saints have a lot to play for tonight. a win puts them top of their division and catapults their playoff seed from 9 (out) to 4 (host a playoff game). LA can't catch the niners but a loss drops them out of the postseason.
two mediocre teams should produce a not horrible game, but it's thursday so be on guard.
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The Rams are the most dangerous team in the NFC if they can make it in. They’ve got recent Super Bowl winning experience, a QB that can play with any of the big names, a creative offensive-minded coach, and Aaron Donald (quiet year, but he is a threat to disrupt an offense anytime he takes the field). I think they match up pretty good against any of the big teams in NFC and AFC, and they’re starting to peak at the right time. Pretty much every game from tonight (currently leading 30-14 seed in the 4th), will be a playoff game for them. I think they’ll be pretty fun to watch for the remainder, though.
* Granted the Saints did their darndest to try to comeback and make me swallow my words towards the end there. 😆
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So who were those guys dressed in the Pittsburgh Steelers uniforms? :cheesy:
My takeaways
1. Never underestimate a divisional rival.
2. A decent backup that no one has seen play recently can look like a superstar, for a while.
3. After a few games worth a tape become available things start getting a little harder for those backups.
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Look at Jerry’s Boys giving all those Dolphins fans a Christmas gift 😆.
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I was pleasantly surprised by the Lions today, due in no small part to their whole theme of "three steps forward two steps back" that keeps manifesting.
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The last time the lions won their division, it was the NFC Central. It was 1993. Barry Sanders was there.
Dolphins ran the best play I saw today - 3rd and 2 on the Dallas 15, down one with 1:40ish left, cowboys calls a time out.
They put hill in motion right to left and force the defense to key on a jet sweep and the whole defense flows to their right. Tua fakes that and hands off to some guy gamed Morris Jr who runs right up the gut inside the 10. Basically a modernized triple option dive. Rather than get another chance with the ball down two, Miami sits on the ball and walks off with a field goal
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One of the sports shows I had on the radio today said something about the last time Detroit and Cleveland both had records like this, they met in the NFL Championship game in ‘57 I think. Detroit won 17-16 I if I remember what they said correctly. 😆
Happy with Detroit’s win. Going to Dallas with Dallas coming off back to back losses will pry be a tough one, though.
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It seems the Chiefs are in the Christmas spirit. They're doing everything they can to gift this game to the Raiders.
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Yeah, that was a rough first half. Here's hoping Mahomes can get his team fired up over the halftime break.
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Narrator’s voice: they did not. The back to back defensive touchdowns is one of those one in a billion flukes
Fortunately they don’t have to worry about losing the division because besides the chiefs it’s maximum booboo
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Haha, I was going to take down my Cowboys meme about the tickets so as to try and avoid calling down a curse this weekend when the silver and blue faces the silver and blue. Looks like it already got snipped. Danke schoen!
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joe flacco is practicing fell sorcery
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Only had radio for the game, so didn’t get to see the two point conversion(s), but I give Campbell props for trying to win in regulation… three separate times. Curious if the initial attempt was ruled right. Sounded odd that one would report eligible and another wouldn’t, so interesting if it was refs or Detroit misunderstanding the rules/thinking they were within the rules.
Nevermind, sounds like right call, radio announcers seemed to make it into something it wasn’t.
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That one hurt, but thankfully the Lions have conditioned me my entire life not to expect much.
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The Cowboys have to be concerned that if that game had been on the road they'd have been toast.
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joe flacco is practicing fell sorcery
He's short of beating Manzel's totals in just 5 games played as a Brown (which isn't anything important to anyone else, just hilarious to show HOW BAD our owners were, at the time. They have been mercilessly out of the picture since...)
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Contender impressions
Ravens - scary.
Dolphins - will lose in the playoffs in some spectacularly dumb way.
Chiefs - not their year
Eagles - can’t seem to their offense and defense to show up in the same week.
Niners - also scary but not ravens scary
Cowboys - lol
Everyone else - who the ****** knows
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I saw some tweet about how the Ravens locking up the 1seed meant the Chiefs would not host the AFFCG this year and I must conclude that this person hasn't watched the playoffs before.
At least one of the AFFCGs the Chiefs have hosted in this steak came as the 2 seed when the 6 seed Titans beat the *checks notes* 1 seed Ravens.
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https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=875156607944924&set=a.181725657288026
THIS.
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facebook: you must log in to continue
not today, satan
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https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=875156607944924&set=a.181725657288026
THIS.
I heard “Flacc around and find out”, thought that was pretty good.
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https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=875156607944924&set=a.181725657288026
THIS.
Missing a gator with a nuke on its back riding a chunk of ice.
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Only had radio for the game, so didn’t get to see the two point conversion(s), but I give Campbell props for trying to win in regulation… three separate times. Curious if the initial attempt was ruled right. Sounded odd that one would report eligible and another wouldn’t, so interesting if it was refs or Detroit misunderstanding the rules/thinking they were within the rules.
Nevermind, sounds like right call, radio announcers seemed to make it into something it wasn’t.
Well I just read Allen Ref crew will not be doing playoff game 2024. I wonder why :rolleyes: ? Oh a lot national people are not happy with Allen Ref crew with all the bad calls for other teams as well. I watch the game at the end I see with my two eyes #58 #68 (Decker) next to Allen to report as eligible and #70 Skipper running on to the field. The Lions are not the only team to be screw by Allen Ref crew but they are last after this.
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In the end, it is what it is.
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That one hurt, but thankfully the Lions have conditioned me my entire life not to expect much.
Yes Rebs that one hurt . I'm a burnout Lions Fan from 1995 from the loss Philly Eagles playoff game. I have seen a lot strange games this past year and Teams not playing like they should. I just read that this game prove that the Lions are a contender now yes they lost but they played hard with Dallas. Dallas avg 40 points game at home they only put 20 again't the Lions. I'am not stating this its the National people are saying this not me.The Cowboys fans are really worry now. Now for me I wait until the season is over to see where everyone fall in playoff seating . Its good hear that Allen Ref Crew will not be doing any playoff games 2024 but it don't help the Lions. Oh well later.
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The Cowboys fans aren’t worried, trust me. They’re talking about Jimmy being inducted into the ring of honor breaking the “Jimmy Curse”, and using that to explain the botched call allowing them to win the game vs Detroit, and also for Arizona beating Phili, setting Dallas up to win the division. Believe me, they’re the most delusional fans out there. They’re running with this idea in their heads that they’re suddenly the “team of destiny” to win the Super Bowl this year. Unfortunately, I’ve heard some version of this same story from Cowboys fans every year since 1996, 😂.
Detroit fans, on the other hand, need to take a breath and live in the now instead of all that history of disappointment. The Lions will have a home playoff game and should get their first playoff win in a long time. If they lose at home, that would be a “slight” disappointment for this otherwise pretty good season. If they win their first playoff game and then get bounced out in the second, I’d still consider this a great season for them. I look at it like a 4-5 year plan to change culture; Campbell takes over, says he’s going to turn the Lions culture into “knee-cap biting fighters” and they go 0-10-1 before ending on a strong note winning 3 of 6 (showing what he said about not quitting, keep fighting, etc). Second year, they start 1-6, keep fighting and end 9-8 and miss the playoffs after the last week of the season on a tie-breaker. This year, they’ve done what they’ve done, won the division, and earned a home playoff game. They’re got a punchers chance to win it all, but I look at it a bit more realistically as they get a playoff win before getting bounced. Then the next two years are payoff years where they get to at least the NFC championship game and/or win it all. It’s honestly very similar to the 90s Cowboys rise when Jimmy took over. I think the worst thing possible would be for them to “peak” to early this year and make a run to the Super Bowl but lose it this year.
That’s just my two cents on Detroit.
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goofy playoff scenarios all over the league but the bills have the goofiest
win the division - beat the dolphins
eliminated from the playoffs - lose to the dolphins plus steelers win (vs the nothing to play for ravens) plus a jaguars win (vs the booboo titans)
falcons - win vs saints and a bucks loss moves them from 12th place to the 4 seed (tampa is at carolina so this one seems a unlikely)
cowboys - loss plus eagles win puts them on the road in tampa or atlanta. the kind of game dallas would never ****** around and lose.
packers / seahawks / saints / vikings - throw this pile of chaff in a blender and see who pops out as the 7 seed.
dolphins - loss plus colts win would put them in the 7 slot. and send them to... arrowhead. lol. (assuming the chiefs beat the chargers. which seems probable)
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The Cowboys fans aren’t worried, trust me. They’re talking about Jimmy being inducted into the ring of honor breaking the “Jimmy Curse”, and using that to explain the botched call allowing them to win the game vs Detroit, and also for Arizona beating Phili, setting Dallas up to win the division. Believe me, they’re the most delusional fans out there. They’re running with this idea in their heads that they’re suddenly the “team of destiny” to win the Super Bowl this year. Unfortunately, I’ve heard some version of this same story from Cowboys fans every year since 1996, 😂.
Detroit fans, on the other hand, need to take a breath and live in the now instead of all that history of disappointment. The Lions will have a home playoff game and should get their first playoff win in a long time. If they lose at home, that would be a “slight” disappointment for this otherwise pretty good season. If they win their first playoff game and then get bounced out in the second, I’d still consider this a great season for them. I look at it like a 4-5 year plan to change culture; Campbell takes over, says he’s going to turn the Lions culture into “knee-cap biting fighters” and they go 0-10-1 before ending on a strong note winning 3 of 6 (showing what he said about not quitting, keep fighting, etc). Second year, they start 1-6, keep fighting and end 9-8 and miss the playoffs after the last week of the season on a tie-breaker. This year, they’ve done what they’ve done, won the division, and earned a home playoff game. They’re got a punchers chance to win it all, but I look at it a bit more realistically as they get a playoff win before getting bounced. Then the next two years are payoff years where they get to at least the NFC championship game and/or win it all. It’s honestly very similar to the 90s Cowboys rise when Jimmy took over. I think the worst thing possible would be for them to “peak” to early this year and make a run to the Super Bowl but lose it this year.
That’s just my two cents on Detroit.
The guys from FanDuel said the call was legit and move on. And those guys are expert at... something... right?
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The guys from FanDuel said the call was legit and move on. And those guys are expert at... something... right?
Right call, wrong call, I don’t know. I only used the term “botched” because that’s what the talking heads I was listening to called it in regard to the whole “breaking the Jimmy curse”. What I know is that call isn’t going to define the season for the Lions. No different than the Tooney offside call in Kansas City. If KC goes on and loses to Baltimore in the AFC Championship game, for instance, you think they’re going to say “well, we’d have won today if not for that offside call in Buffalo a few months back”.
Now, one of the things I see as Detroit bad luck rearing its head is that currently, they’d be hosting the Rams in the first game. Of all the teams they could pull, I think they’re the most dangerous. Granted, the Stafford vs Goff angle makes for an interesting story.
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The guys from FanDuel said the call was legit and move on. And those guys are expert at... something... right?
Hey Rebs I fine it funny you brought up FanDuel sports betting. I read 6 to 7 national reports on this Lion & Dallas game . I check their comments and found alot of NFL fans not Lions or Cowboy fans saying the reason Lions lost was sports betting. Who know if Refs in on it. I have already move on it but stills it make you wonder. The NFL could have huge problem if it true but I myself I don't know but I do read alot on line and all over as well.
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Right call, wrong call, I don’t know. I only used the term “botched” because that’s what the talking heads I was listening to called it in regard to the whole “breaking the Jimmy curse”. What I know is that call isn’t going to define the season for the Lions. No different than the Tooney offside call in Kansas City. If KC goes on and loses to Baltimore in the AFC Championship game, for instance, you think they’re going to say “well, we’d have won today if not for that offside call in Buffalo a few months back”.
Now, one of the things I see as Detroit bad luck rearing its head is that currently, they’d be hosting the Rams in the first game. Of all the teams they could pull, I think they’re the most dangerous. Granted, the Stafford vs Goff angle makes for an interesting story.
I sometime wonder if that what NFL want is Lions and Rams in the playoff for drama. Heck the Lions and Dallas is a lot of drama there as well. The NFL live for the drama by the way.
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Right call, wrong call, I don’t know. I only used the term “botched” because that’s what the talking heads I was listening to called it in regard to the whole “breaking the Jimmy curse”. What I know is that call isn’t going to define the season for the Lions. No different than the Tooney offside call in Kansas City. If KC goes on and loses to Baltimore in the AFC Championship game, for instance, you think they’re going to say “well, we’d have won today if not for that offside call in Buffalo a few months back”.
Now, one of the things I see as Detroit bad luck rearing its head is that currently, they’d be hosting the Rams in the first game. Of all the teams they could pull, I think they’re the most dangerous. Granted, the Stafford vs Goff angle makes for an interesting story.
Yes, it is an interesting story. And yes, Stafford's familiarity with us and any extra drive he feels about beating us in a playoff game in Detroit makes it one of the worst possible matchups.
But we have to deal with it now.
Hey Rebs I fine it funny you brought up FanDuel sports betting. I read 6 to 7 national reports on this Lion & Dallas game . I check their comments and found alot of NFL fans not Lions or Cowboy fans saying the reason Lions lost was sports betting. Who know if Refs in on it. I have already move on it but stills it make you wonder. The NFL could have huge problem if it true but I myself I don't know but I do read alot on line and all over as well.
Exactly. A few million here or there to buy a few calls is nothing compared to hundreds of millions or more for the people buying.
And it's more than just the NFL.
But that's none of my business, where's my iced tea...
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Wait you are saying that the referee's might not be 100% honest..
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I know just the man to sort this mess out...
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Just a small reminder that insinuating that the ref was bought are highly liable statements. Unless you have proof of it I'd be careful with such blanket statements.
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Especially for folks that actually watched that game. I'm surrounded by Lions fans who seem to think the entire game was one two-point conversion. If the refs had some conspiracy they wouldn't have gifted the Lions a 15 yard penalty for Hutchinson trying to trip Pendershot. And then once the two point conversion was negated, Campbell insisted on going for it from the seven. Aided by an offsides penalty they got another shot and he went for it again and failed. Then there was the kickoff with time left on the clock and Dallas having a time out and the best kicker in the league this season. Nor will any of them admit that the Cowboys might have tried to cover Decker if the refs had told them he was eligible. Delusion is high in Lions territory.
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Sounds like I missed a wild game, shame on me.
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Sounds like I missed a wild game, shame on me.
It was! There's plenty of video going around regarding the items in question, so no need to take anyone's word for it.
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Especially for folks that actually watched that game. I'm surrounded by Lions fans who seem to think the entire game was one two-point conversion. If the refs had some conspiracy they wouldn't have gifted the Lions a 15 yard penalty for Hutchinson trying to trip Pendershot. And then once the two point conversion was negated, Campbell insisted on going for it from the seven. Aided by an offsides penalty they got another shot and he went for it again and failed. Then there was the kickoff with time left on the clock and Dallas having a time out and the best kicker in the league this season. Nor will any of them admit that the Cowboys might have tried to cover Decker if the refs had told them he was eligible. Delusion is high in Lions territory.
It was, on the whole, an unfortunate loss for the Lions (and us Detroit fans). Win or lose, Detroit has clinched the playoffs, and I'm looking forward to that. As I understand it, the Lions defense did a good job compared to every other team that played in Dallas this season (though Lamb still had a great day). I thought the final touchdown drive was impressive. Whether or not the referees made a mistake about who reported as eligible for the game... there were two more chances after that play, and the Lions couldn't get it done. I do appreciate Dan Campbell's aggressiveness, even if it's not the call I would have made. But overall, if the Lions want to win, they can't let it come down to a single play.
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I'll simply say this.
If I threw a beer on David Tepper, I'd be banned for life from NFL stadiums, and probably have a slew of high-priced lawyers beating down my door. And you know what? I'd deserve it. There's no room in a civilized society (even acknowledging that an NFL stadium on a Sunday is right there on the cusp of being called 'civilized') for that kind of behavior. Period.
Tepper threw a drink on a fan, and got fined for the amount in his couch cushions. No other consequences, not even an apology for acting like a clown. The league, the Panthers, Tepper himself, even the Jaguars (the game was played in Duvall) are refusing to comment any further on the situation. Fine him a few bucks, brush it all under the rug, move on with FOOTBAW.
Suffice to say that after all those years of Dan Snyder's reign as the biggest jackass owner in the league, we have a worthy successor. And hey, a two-win season AND you're handing the #1 pick to the Bears? Even better, you get to be this grumpy next season too. Enjoy!
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Tepper Tantrum is such a fitting phrase....
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I underestimated the stupidity of the internet, again.
I get the uproar about the Lions/Cowboy call but do people really think that Jerry Jones paid off the refs? He can just call down to get his way and chooses a somewhat random regular season game to do so instead of the Dez catch? Or the crazy Aaron Rogers throw to the sidelines?
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I'm not sure I see it as a "payoff" from the ownership for the call. But it was bad, and with the NFL not looking at changing anything... IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN
But I have seen way to many bad calls, to not question them
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I'm not sure I see it as a "payoff" from the ownership for the call. But it was bad, and with the NFL not looking at changing anything... IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN
But I have seen way to many bad calls, to not question them
The name you are looking for is Pandora. Tattooed on the inside of her thighs is FanDuel and DraftKings: That explains the feeling that you, me and anyone else with just a hair bit of SUS that the NFL is on the take, are starting to doubt the integrity of the game... I don't even like to watch some aspects of NBC sports because when they talk about is aspects of the game from the POV of professional sports gambling...
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mike tomlin so ****** good it's unreal. dude would get a sack of half-built manikins to eight wins
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The games today (yesterday/Saturday) pretty much put Buffalo in a win or else situation, so the late Buffalo v Miami game, last game of the season, will be worth watching.
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The games today (yesterday/Saturday) pretty much put Buffalo in a win or else situation, so the late Buffalo v Miami game, last game of the season, will be worth watching.
Well, thanks to the Jags losing the Bills are in. Still should be a great game as the division is on the line.
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Jets having a better season than the Pats... Who would have thought it. :D
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I hear Belichick is out after this.
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I hear Belichick is out after this.
that is the rumor.. we will see tomorrow I expect
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Holy crap, Jacksonville...
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Holy crap, Jacksonville...
Well, at least Washington's season is over. They made a quarter...not quite a half a game interesting. Anyway, here's to Josh Harris and his group making something happen next year 'cause the last 32 years have been a pretty awful NFL experience. At least I get my Sunday afternoons back until September.
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Holy crap, Jacksonville...
That goal line sequence was breathtaking in its stupidity
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While the jaguars sucked the melodrama out of the BUF@MIA game, there’s still a little juice. Winner gets to host the Steelers and the loser goes to Arrowhead
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That’s a huge win for Buffalo; they’re at home in the playoffs until and unless they have to face the Ravens in the AFC Championship Game.
Looking forward to not looking forward to Lions v Rams. One of those games I’ll watch between my fingers.
Eagles v Bucs May not be what it looks like at face value, either. Bucs are similar to the Rams with some guys who’ve been there before and know how to get it done. Eagles just look rudderless, and 5-6 weeks ago they looked pretty unstoppable.
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yeah, that's a ****** around and find out game for philly. they have to figure out how to not be massively constipated on offense.
Next Week:
PIT@BUF - watch the forecast. currently it's going to be an icy shitshow. advantage mike
MIA@KC - big wet fart end to the dolphins season
CLE@HOU - absolute coinflip
GB@DAL - cowboys going to have mess this one up pretty bad (uh oh!)
LAR@DET - Chaos Engine Game of the Week
PHI@TB - ngl i like the bucks. Viva La Baker Renaissance
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even if TPA only goes 1 game into post season, they did alot to be impressive. Maybe Baker has finally found himself? Does he still make commercials?
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What the hell happened to the Eagles? "The wheels fell off" just doesn't even begin to describe it.
It's more like:
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The cracks were visible earlier in the season but since they were the former NFC champs a lot of it was papered over with "they know how to win". The NFL doesn't stop punching though and it doesn't look like their coaching staff has any answer whatsoever for the rest of the teams figuring them out.
As a Cowboy fan it reminds me a lot of the Jason Garrett/Kellen Moore offenses that couldn't adapt as the season went on. It doesn't help that the Eagles have almost no depth at wide receiver, tight end or cornerback to go with abysmal linebackers. If the defensive line isn't absolutely dominating they don't have any way to stop offenses.
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I want to take a moment, if you don't mind, to put some thoughts on the end of the Broncos' season onto paper (so to speak). Because I'm frustrated, and more than that I'm worried, because things aren't trending in the right direction- somehow, record aside, the team is in worse shape now than it was after last year's debacle, and the cycle of mediocrity and dysfunction that has defined Dove Valley since 2015 is due to continue for the foreseeable.
First, as mentioned, the team was better in terms of record than it was in 2022. That's not a high bar to clear, but it is still the case. There was even a push for an unlikely playoff spot for a while (we'll get to that later), buoyed by a surprising winning streak mid-season. Russell Wilson (again, more on that later) was improved over the doughy and lazy version we saw the prior season, the new coach knew how the play clock works, they even broke the spell and finally got a win over Patrick Mahomes (granted, a flu-ridden version of him). These look like good steps forward on their ear.
However.
To bring in that new coach, Denver had to give up a first round and a second round pick to New Orleans to get Payton and a third-rounder. A coach. They traded two high picks for a COACH. Now, his resume does include a Super Bowl ring, true. Let's stop for a moment though and look at that- what was Sean Payton before he got Drew Brees to join the Saints? And what was he after Brees hit the age wall and eventually retired? How much of Payton's resume is built on Brees rather than his own acumen? It's hard to say- or at least, it was going into this season- but it was a huge gamble to give up all that draft capital, particularly after the massive deal to Seattle for Russ the year prior. Continuing to get rid of your ability to rebuild a team that badly needs new talent is never a winning strategy, period. I really do believe that ownership did this out of a knee-jerk reaction to the fans' loathing of Nathaniel Hackett in 2022, and did whatever they felt it would take to get the best guy available for the next season- whether he really was the top candidate or not, he was the one with the most buzz around him on the talk shows at least. It LOOKS like they're making the big move, at the very least.
From there, the only place to logically go next is Russ. 2022 was a disaster for Russell Wilson and for the Broncos, and it's hard to really figure out which was responsible more for the other's failures- Hackett's inability to manage a clock or call intelligent plays didn't help Russ, and Russ' inability to do much of anything outside of three-yard checkdown passes all year limited the offense to miniscule yardage on every drive. Truly a match made in hell. There was optimism that Payton was going to 'fix' Russ, and from Payton's perspective this was a perfect scenario. If he succeeded, he'd be able to point to his fixing of the situation in Denver, and if Russ continued to struggle he could point at his QB and blame him for the season going to hell- either way, Payton comes out looking good, right? Again, more on that shortly. Russ was simply better this year than he had been. Still not great- the number of times he continued to focus on that lateral checkdown pass rather than attempting to move the ball to his WRs was astonishing, and that reasonable completion percentage is built mostly on that play. But the offense was scoring more points, period.
The thing is, that's not good enough. 'Better' is good, but not enough to win games. Your QB can't have a cap hit of $50-odd million dollars and be 'okay'. That way lies madness and losing. To be able to build a team around the guy, he either needs to be at a resonable number for the cap, or he'd better be damned well worth that kind of money- there is no metric that I can accept in which Russell Wilson's 2023 season was worth $50M. And it means that because he's eating that much space, it's that much harder to put pieces in place to help him out- so the problem gets worse. Losing draft capital two years in a row exacerbates the problem even further. To put it in Battletech terms, with a strict BV limit on your force of 5000BV, Russ is a Tundra Wolf eating an enormous amount of that number- and whether you're really getting the centerpiece of your force as a result of that huge number is very much in-question. (I'm picking on the T-Wolf because there's one on my workbench, nothing more)
But, we can work around that if the rest of the team works well, right? Well... Courtland Sutton was amazing, every week it seemed like he had some crazy one-handed grab that made me choke on my drink in awe. And outside of that... the O-line was pretty bad most games, the run game never really got going enough to help (a combination of the O-line problem and teams knowing they didn't have to worry as much about Russ going downfield), and outside of Sutton the receiving corps was pretty irrelevant most games. Special shoutout to Jerry Jeudy, who complained and whined through most of the season only to do silly dances when he'd make plays that didn't matter. Great, you're dancing like you just won the Super Bowl over an eight-yard reception- you needed ten for the first down, dingus. Should he leave Denver this offseason, I will shed no tears.
If the offense struggles, one leans on the defense to keep you in games, and here I find a tale of two teams. Vance Joseph's defense was awful early on (see: Miami game), solidified and saved the day in the midseason, particularly in that winning streak, and then fell apart again in the last few games (particularly against New England on Christmas). Why management looked at a former Broncos head coach- run out of town for his defense being crap- and thought the second time around would be better is beyond me, but the results were so up and down that it's hard to really judge the defense as a unit- are they the unit that let Miami run a track meet on them for a near-record, or are they the unit that slammed the door on teams like the Chiefs and Bills? That we don't have a great answer doesn't give me hope for next year (assuming Joseph remains), and again the lack of cap and draft options makes it hard to see things being more solid in terms of personnel.
But the biggest problem for the Denver Broncos in the 2024 offseason isn't any of this. It's how things ended with Wilson- and what it means moving forward.
The quick version is that Wilson was benched following the New England game in favor of Jared Stidham for the last two games of the season, on paper so the coaching staff could get an idea of what they had in their backup QB. This was, frankly, bullshit- with their playoff hopes ruined by the loss to the Patriots (the result of awful play in the 4th quarter on both sides of the ball), Payton had clearly decided to move on from Russ and didn't want him to get hurt in the last two games, making his injury-safety clauses in his contract kick in and force the Broncos' hand. (The Raiders did the same to Derek Carr the prior season) Which is fine- just say that, we all know what you're doing, and barring a total shock it means the end of the Wilson era in Denver. But... as it turns out, Payton and his staff had been threatening Russ with benching for WEEKS, either restructuring his contract or being removed from his starting position, and apparently they only finally did so after the team's playoff chances were totally shot- had they not had that midseason streak, he might have been on the pine back in October- for a couple of months, his own coaches were threatening him with this. And that's a huge problem moving forward for the Broncos.
Imagine being an NFL free agent- a QB or otherwise. You get offered a contract by the Broncos, as well as by a couple of other teams (let's say the Packers and Titans for the sake of example). That Denver deal is for more money, so that's great, but... then you think about how Russ got treated. They offered him that massive contract, then badgered him and threatened him to get rid of that deal or else he'd lose his job. So that contract they're offering YOU now, that's not worth the paper it's printed on, is it? As soon as you agree to it, they're apparently fine with altering the deal, pray we don't alter it further, right? So why take the smoke and mirrors deal in Denver when the Packers are offering a little less, but can be trusted to play fair with you and your agent?
THAT'S the key to the Broncos offseason- how much damage has Payton and his team done to the image of the team with players around the league, how do you get free agents to want to come to Denver (or stay in Denver in some cases), and how do you build a reasonable team when players look at your franchise and say 'nah, you're too dishonest for me'?
A first and a second for a questionable coach who has made a hash out of the organization moving forward. Holy crap.
And that's not even going into the Russ situation- who starts next year? He's not coming back barring something truly jaw-dropping happening, Stidham is... not great, but decent. Do you see if you can get someone in here who won't be awful? Bearing in mind that the list of QBs in Denver since Peyton Manning retired makes this admin beat up his liver? Do you hope to draft someone with the 12th pick and hope that one of the good QB options falls to you- then doesn't turn into mush at the pro level? Do you fall on your hands and knees and beg Russ to come back because there's not a clear better path out there instead?
It's going to be a long offseason in Dove Valley. I suspect it's going to be several more in a row, frankly.
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I'm pretty sure the Broncos defense against the Chiefs was a mirage - or more accurately them doing well against Travis Kelce and the collection of paper clips and dust bunnies that is the rest of the Chiefs receiving core is the kind of think that sounds impressive if you were watching last season's highlights.
The Chiefs offense is pretty bad right now even if it could catch fire at any moment thanks to Mahomes.
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And there was the 'surprise' firing. Mike Vrabel was let go. I wonder how much of the personnel decision making was his vs. the GMs. He really seemed to get a lot more out of his squad than what they had 'on paper'.
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Looks even, except for one crucial detail left out: The Rams and Stafford have rings.
Should be a fun game.
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the rams won a super bowl after the trade. they burned their draft picks like kindling to win it and that's the only W they care about at this point.
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At least they got something for their kindling! It's a team game, but I am still glad for Stafford getting to show that he could be a difference maker on the spot without choking.
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if gurley's knee hadn't fallen apart they probably would have scored more than three points against the patriots and won that game too.
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Yes, many an RB retired in their 20's due to the dreaded exploding knee.
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Pete Carroll is out as HC at Seahawks.
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meanwhile, the bears are keeping eberflus, who has among the most delightfully comical names in sports
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Pete Carroll is out as HC at Seahawks.
This is insane but does feel like it was coming for a while at the same time.
I'm not sure who they get to replace him but that's a hell of a job opening.
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Why did they wait? Usually those decisions are done yesterday because of the sheer madness the teams go through to find or compete for replacement staff
https://www.nbcsports.com/watch/nfl/profootballtalk/pft-pm/carroll-transitions-from-sea-coach-to-advisor
NM, i guess this is why (and yeaaaaah, NBC... un.... Fixed their Sport Page)
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And now Darth Bill is out too.
This seemed more expected really after the last two seasons.
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GM Bill got Coach Bill fired. If the guy you picked to succeed Brady had to be benched for a Bailey Zappe, you ****** up
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It's not going to be nearly as much fun to root against the Pats anymore. :sad:
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GM Bill got Coach Bill fired. If the guy you picked to succeed Brady had to be benched for a Bailey Zappe, you ****** up
I kind of wondered if that would be the solution offered to him- bringing in a GM, pulling the personnel decisions from Belechick and focusing him on the coaching side of things. GM Belechick has been pretty hit-or-miss the past several years, to put it nicely.
That's going to be an intriguing opportunity for someone, with that third-overall pick and all that... big shoes to fill, too.
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It’s best for the NFL that Bill couldn’t draft. Imagine how obnoxious the past fifteen years would have been if he was digging all pro after all pro out of the third round and free agency.
I wouldn’t be surprised if loss of power wasn’t a condition for returning. Basically a poison pill that Kraft could live with but was 90% sure he’d reject.
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https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=926950448789574&set=a.821929205958366
It gets more interesting...
https://www.audacy.com/923thefan/sports/patriots-reportedly-hire-jerod-mayo-as-15th-head-coach
THE youngest head coach?
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I pay zero attention to position coaches as they are largely disposable so this was a surprise for me. He was a solid dude as a player and should in theory understand the Patriot Way. Culture building and continuity is an important piece of sustained success. Will be interested to see what he brings to the on field product (presumably besides a new QB in the draft)
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There's a lot of talk about this being the plan in Foxborough. Bill move to the side but already knowing who the replacement would be.
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Man, if I were the Bears I'd probably be very eager to take a Patriot 1st next year with some other sweeteners for trading down to #3. Marvin Harrison Jr., another year to evaluate Fields and a very good shot at #1 yet again in 2025.
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If they are going to choose between shots of Taylor Swift or closeups of Andy Reid's frozen mustache I vote for more Taylor Swift please. I really don't need to be thinking about WHAT's frozen in Andy Reid's mustache. :shocked:
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Guess i no longer have interest in this thread this year :/ Wow, Houston literally DEFFED on CLE. Not beat, man handled, literally took a dump on us. I hope they go all the way (minor pleasure if both PIT and BAL are shown the exit at first opportunities...)
The real interesting issue is when Creepio returns. Who stays or goes next season?
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it was competitive until flacco threw the back to back pick 6s. i'm surprised it took houston that long to realize joe is a granite statue with cement bags tied to his feet so you should just blitz the house on anything resembling a passing down. man is not getting away.
in other news, it was so cold in KC that Mahomes' helmet broke
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Super busy week and a half for me, so I’ve barely had time to keep up with the coaching changes, but wow, Bills out and Mayo is in? Interesting to see how that goes, but it had to end sometime. Carroll out, too.
As to the games. Good for Houston, they looked like they belonged and they took that Flacco Cinderella story I was kind of rooting for and made it look like Joe had been chilling on his couch and throwing the ball to neighborhood kids until a few weeks ago 😳
Chiefs. They’ll have to rely heavily on their defense, and it held up well today. Miami’s defense played a lot better than I thought they would, but their offense played even worse than I expected. Tua looked like he was heaving a boulder every time he threw the ball.
Only got two games today, really looking forward to Lions/Rams and Packers/Cowboys should be interesting.
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Wall to wall coverage of the Lions and Rams game today in Detroit.
It makes since Stafford is back after being traded to and its a playoff game, which hasn't happend in 29 years.
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My best friend moved to Dallas, so I find the Packers being up 27 points in the 2nd quarter hilarious.
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Well, it’s going to be a fun Monday in Texas tomorrow. It’ll either be how Dallas needs to blow everything up and now is Jerry’s perfect chance to get Bill Belichick, or Dallas came back from 27-0 and is Super Bowl bound and also the greatest thing since sliced bread (again). Either way, and personally I’m hoping for the later, it’ll be fun. I have to hand it to Green Bay though; they’ve out played and out coached Dallas so far (12 seconds to halftime).
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Did someone forget to tell the Cowboys they were playing today?
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No other game this postseason will be as satisfying as watching Dallas getting eliminated in the most humiliating fashion. :smilie_happy_clapping: :drinking01: boogie :smilie_happy_thumbup:
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ALL HAIL THE CHAOS!
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If the craziness continues the Chiefs might just host their 6th annual Arrowhead Invitational after all.
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Blue kitty goes meow.
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:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :cool: :cool: :cool: :smilie_happy_thumbup: :smilie_happy_thumbup: :smilie_happy_thumbup: THE DETROIT LIONS WON !!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: What happen to Dallas really :grin:.
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Big win for the Lions. Keep that momentum building. Just don’t forget you’ve got a great O-line and two great running backs. Goff shouldn’t have to do it all. They may get really lucky and get that Matt Patricia coordinated defense at home next week, though.
Regardless, kudos to Detroit. The Lions have accomplished more than they probably realize today, just by getting the win.
Not sure why anyone is “surprised” by Dallas bowing out early. It’s darn near the most guaranteed thing in sports since about 1996. It’s actually so common, it’s losing the satisfying feel and just becoming one of those 🥱 moments, 😂. Still, looking forward to tomorrow at work and on sports radio; it’ll be like someone kicked over a beehive full of Armageddon, especially here in Texas, 😂.
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The craze in Detroit of the Lions wining is crazy!! Can't go 30 seconds about hearing it.
I think it's funny that most of the people are talking how the Lions dominated the game....I must of missed that.
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they jumped out to an early lead and did just enough to not give it away.
next week for the pack is a big hurdle, but the funniest result possible of a Packers @ Lions NFC championship game is still in the cards.
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they jumped out to an early lead and did just enough to not give it away.
next week for the pack is a big hurdle, but the funniest result possible of a Packers @ Lions NFC championship game is still in the cards.
Even funnier if it’s Houston @ Buffalo (providing today’s game goes to Buffalo) for the AFC Championship…Houston v Green Bay could honestly be one hechuva unexpected exciting entertaining shootout type of Super Bowl.
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objectively the funniest AFC championship game would have been PIT@CLE. mike tomlin utilizing the cover of winter to launch a surprise superbowl run would be outstanding
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The funniest currently possible AFFCG outcome is PIT@KC purely for the volume of complaining about the streak continuing.
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Here’s to Mahomes’ first playoff game not at Arrowhead (excluding Super Bowls).
One last game for the Wild Card weekend.
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Absolutely zero surprises in Buffalo tonight.
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The weather was too nice for things to get bogged down
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And the Eagles complete the most epic collapse in recent memory.
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Ooookaaaay... obviously that all went exactly the way we all predicted. :cool:
I'll take Baltimore over Houston, Kansas City over Buffalo, San Francisco over Green Bay, and Detroit over Tampa.
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The way this season has gone, any of the underdogs are more than capable of pulling an upset. Were I a betting man, I'd avoid all of these games like the plague.
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True enough. I didn't have a good feeling about Dallas going into this because I've lived in the past 30 years, but I sure didn't think it would be quite that lumpy of a loss. Philly... that team never looked GREAT this season at all. Even at 10-1 at one point, some of those wins were nail-biters that made them look pretty 'eh'. Even then, that was an absolutely epic collapse by a team that should have had the talent to roll over just about anyone in the NFC. Staggered.
I do want to take a moment though to recognize that, for a guy who was a game-time decision whether he'd even be able to play, Baker Mayfield looked like a BEAST during that game. Dude got a raw deal in being run out of Cleveland the way he was, and I'm thrilled to see him land on his feet like this. He's going to get a pretty good contract somewhere this offseason after what he's done this year in Tampa, and he deserves it.
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If Tampa's smart they'll get him signed to a deal this off season.
Should be a wild off season really.
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https://www.facebook.com/reel/3650458788553797
BenchwarmerBran is the name. this clip (about QB's already out post season)... is Hilariously accurate AF, LOL.
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Ravens put Stroud in the blender. Dude was running for his life most of the second half.
Also putting Patrick Ricard at slot and pulling him like a tackle on a QB bootleg
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It was competitive for about a minute. Baltimore just looked like they were shaking off the rust from the week off in the first half. They got it all straight by the second half, though. It was also Houston on the road in the playoffs, so not a huge surprise.
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cue denny green they are who we thought they were rant
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That missed field goal is going to be heavy on the minds of the Packers kicker...
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I'd assume that SF player who got the final INT in the game got yelled at in the locker room for not going to ground immediately. We've seen games lost on trying to run it.
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I’m just hoping Deebo will be good for next week.
Props to Green Bay though, they looked like the better team for a lot of that game.
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One more game for the Lions before the Super Bowl! My fingers are crossed!
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Nice job on the Lions wining in Detroit.
Its quite crazy here in Detroit.
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It’s funny seeing Detroit @ San Fran as the NFC Championship game.Detroit earned it, and honestly San Fran better be on their toes; they didn’t look like their dominant selves against Green Bay yesterday. Granted, them losing Deebo early affected them offensively, but he doesn’t play defense and the D didn’t look like it was living up to its potential, either. Either way, I’m excited to watch it next weekend.
Also, I have to give the Bucs and Baker Mayfield credit. They played a heck of a game, too. Baker impressed me this season in maturity and leadership.
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Stop me if you’ve heard this one before. Wide right.
The bills were having so much success with the six lineman/TE setup and decided that they couldn’t do that any more? Lots of 3rd and long after Allen ran around and threw the ball away
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Oh Buffalo! Wide right again! So sorry.
KC finally not relying on Mahomes to do it all (unfortunately, that seemed to be Buffalo’s issue, hoping Josh Allen could win it). Defense and run game really held their own. Looks like a great match up with Baltimore coming up.
Ironic that the Super Bowl could end up a rematch of the first game of the season, 😂
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The chiefs defense has been all time great the last six to eight weeks. This was the first time they allowed more than 20 points since December 3rd.
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Gotta love Jason Kelce out there in a Chiefs cap and no shirt at the game. Awesome. :grin:
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Gotta love Jason Kelce out there in a Chiefs cap and no shirt at the game. Awesome. :grin:
Yeah, watching Taylor Swift's future brother-in-law go Polar Bear Mode was fun
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The Super Bowl I'd most like to see: Lions defeat Chiefs.
The Super Bowl we'll most likely get: Ravens defeat Niners.
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They always throw out weird facts with the Lions
The team the Lions beat to get in the Championship game (before the super bowl) was the 49ers.
So here is hopeing for the same thing again
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I'm rooting for the 49ers. If nothing else to see a last pick QB get a superbowl ring in his first real season as a starter :)
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Nope, Patrick needs his back to back SB wins as he pursues Tom's legacy.
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If the Chiefs win the SB this year Mahomes will have the same number of rings as he does post-season losses.
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Ooookaaaay... obviously that all went exactly the way we all predicted. :cool:
I'll take Baltimore over Houston, Kansas City over Buffalo, San Francisco over Green Bay, and Detroit over Tampa.
WOW!!! You got all correct. I guess your luck doesn't fall on NFL as much as is does on DICE!!
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Gotta love Jason Kelce out there in a Chiefs cap and no shirt at the game. Awesome. :grin:
I wil be honest that was the best part of the game.. including him bring the young Swifties to see her.
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my favorite dumb conspiracy theory out there is that the game has been fixed so the chiefs will win because the NFL wouldn't go through this much trouble to not have talyor swift at the super bowl.
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my favorite dumb conspiracy theory out there is that the game has been fixed so the chiefs will win because the NFL wouldn't go through this much trouble to not have talyor swift at the super bowl.
:smilie_happy_clapping:
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Congrats to the chiefs, chiefs fans, and swifties. ****** all time defense materializing at the beginning on December is a legendary come up
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Baltimore: 🤦. Pretty sure the critique on Lamar is what it should be; he comes up short in the playoffs. First drive of that game, 3 and out, and KC drives for a TD. That’s all I needed to see to know that Baltimore wasn’t going to win. Then the turnovers and immature penalties didn’t help. Even with all that, they still had a shot since KC didn’t score in the second half. KC’s defense is reminding me of Indianapolis’s defense during the run up to Peyton’s first Super Bowl win against the Bears, where they just turned it on and started shutting people down. Mannings stats that postseason 3 TDs, 7INTs in 4 games, but a Super Bowl win; similar to KC right now where the offense isn’t dominant, but they’re only having to get to 17-21 pts to win since the D isn’t giving much up. It’ll be interesting after this game to see how it goes in two weeks.
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I'm just happy BAL is Out. Modell is long dead but CLE has a long memory (/Rant OFF)
With the Chief's all but viewed as this year's SB victor (and maybe the new Patriots to hate?), I actually hope DET shocks the planet in two weeks (if SF, then who cares? It'll be Chiefs 50,000, SF -3)...
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I'm just happy BAL is Out. Modell is long dead but CLE has a long memory (/Rant OFF)
Amen. I typically can’t stand Baltimore, historically, but this season it was even worse because, actually looking at them objectively, I had to say they really did look good and Lamar had seemed to overcome what I’d always considered his weakness (passing from the pocket, in situations where you have to pass). So I grudgingly give them some props and then they have everything fall in line for them (home field through, matchup with 7th seed for their warmup game, then an offensively weaker than usual Chiefs team, at home) and they put up a performance like that, 😂. So, on one hand, I’m disappointed, but on the other, I’m like Denny Green saying “they were who we thought they were!”, 😂. Granted, the second best thing to giving Cowboys fans crap is giving Ravens fans crap, so it’ll be a good day at the water cooler tomorrow, 😂
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Detroit Lions. Enjoyed every minute of this season. You accomplished more than anyone expected. Heads up, next year will be your year.
San Fran, you got your rematch, and earned it with a heckuva come from behind victory. Good luck.
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Damnit Detroit!
Now I gotta root for the Chiefs.
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So when is the Draft? CLE picks.... whut? 321st overall pick to start?
Actually the real drama is about the Hood: He might just be forced into NFL retirement if no one will have him...
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So when is the Draft? CLE picks.... whut? 321st overall pick to start?
Actually the real drama is about the Hood: He might just be forced into NFL retirement if no one will have him...
Not sure on the draft or Cleveland’s pick.
Bill didn’t exactly have a good crop of teams to choose from, honestly. San Diego kept being talked about as a “dream spot”, but I don’t have a lot of confidence in Herbert. Washington and Carolina, no thanks. Atlanta puzzled me, for why he’d interview there, but at least that owner wants to win. The rest I can’t even name off the top of my head, just talking about the open spots, not, say, Dallas firing the coach to get Bill.
One thing Lamar did was catch his own pass for a first down, that was a pretty neat play.
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Saw the highlight reel from Lions - 49ers, very nice running game. Was good to see the 49ers have a good comeback :)
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Well, the Cinderella story of the Lions is done.
I guess its ok went way further than anyone thought they would of.
At least they don't have to play against Taylor Swift and a football team.
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So who's betting against the Chiefs in the SB this year? I hope everyone is because it just makes him better.
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Saw the highlight reel from Lions - 49ers, very nice running game. Was good to see the 49ers have a good comeback :)
It is always easy to Monday Morning Quarterback, but in this case, I'll Monday Morning Playcall. As a 49er fan, it was clear we didn't come ready to stop the run. Fumble aside, why in the world would the Lions coach call about only 8 running plays in the second half? Had he run it 3 times every Lions possession, I don't think the Niners would have had enough time to mount the comeback. I think they would have scored at least twice. I'm pleased the Niners go to the Super Bowl, and still, totally baffled.
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I was hoping the Lions would be heading to the Super Bowl, but alas. I think it will be harder for Detroit to make it to the NFC Championship game next year, let alone the Super Bowl... But hope springs eternal for us Lions fans. :grin: I'm happy that we got as far as we did, and hopefully we'll remain a strong part of the NFC North for years to come. I the next couple years, assuming Ben Johnson leaves, will tell us all we need to know.
Congrats, Chiefs and 49ers, good luck in the Super Bowl.
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The sad thing is that if Baltimore does half- let's just say half!- of the dumb shit they pulled in that game... the bad penalties, the sloppy tackling, the bad ball-handling, the total abandonment of the run game (Gus Bus? Hello?)... they still probably roll the Chiefs up and stuff them in a dumpster without any drama. The refs did them no favors, for sure, Baltimore fans around here today have a point about some of that (what exactly IS pass interference at this point, and why does it seem to vary every other play?), but at the end of the day the Ravens did a thorough and impressive job of kicking themselves in the nuts for sixty minutes. Bra-vo.
As for Detroit... that's going to fly under the radar in terms of epic collapses, but when you have a team like the 49ers down 17 at home like that at the half, and you blow it that spectacularly, it deserves to get mentioned with the all-time great collapses. We still laugh at last year's Chargers, but was this any less spectacular?
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The Chiefs out coached and out played Baltimore six ways to Sunday on Sunday. Full stop.
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3RD POSS PLAYS YDS RESULT
15:00 KC 25 1:25 3 7 PUNT
12:13 KC 22 5:08 8 23 PUNT
2:31 KC 7 1:42 3 4 PUNT
4TH POSS PLAYS YDS RESULT
14:52 KC 20 4:17 7 32 PUNT
6:45 KC 20 1:45 3 7 PUNT
2:34 KC 25 2:34 6 50 GAME
Baltimore’s defense did their job in the second half. But offensively, Baltimore was entirely out coached and outplayed the entire game. Don’t forget KC had a nice 33 yard screen for a TD nullified by penalty, and only managed a FG instead. Baltimore was penalized 8 times to KC’s 3, but they also had 3 turnovers to KC’s 0, which is much more damaging to a teams likelyhood of winning, yet alone combined with the penalties.
Different note, I’m going to put it out there early, feel free to join in: my Super Bowl Pick: Kansas City Chiefs 24 San Francisco 49ers - 13. It’ll be 49ers 13- KC 10 at half before Mahomes gets a good TD drive and the defense scores to put it out of reach. Spag’s Defense thwarted New England’s perfect season and I’ve gotta put my fan side away and be objective, so any other time I’ve gone against the defense wins championships mantra I’ve lost (see Baltimore Ravens vs NY Giants Super Bowl, for example, 😂), so KC’s defense is playing the best right now (very similar to the NY Giant’s Spag’s led defense in 2007) and that’s who I’ll ride with.
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As for Detroit... that's going to fly under the radar in terms of epic collapses, but when you have a team like the 49ers down 17 at home like that at the half, and you blow it that spectacularly, it deserves to get mentioned with the all-time great collapses. We still laugh at last year's Chargers, but was this any less spectacular?
Dan Campbell seems to be very hard headed during the game. We saw the insistence on the 2-point play against Dallas even when his team was pushed back. I'm more on the analytics side of things with aggressive use of 4th down but in the 3rd quarter I thought he should have taken the field goal. That puts them up two scores again and puts a lot of pressure back on the 49ers offense which hadn't shown a lot at that point. Half of the quarter would have been gone and there would have been no progress for SF.
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Dan Campbell seems to be very hard headed during the game. We saw the insistence on the 2-point play against Dallas even when his team was pushed back. I'm more on the analytics side of things with aggressive use of 4th down but in the 3rd quarter I thought he should have taken the field goal. That puts them up two scores again and puts a lot of pressure back on the 49ers offense which hadn't shown a lot at that point. Half of the quarter would have been gone and there would have been no progress for SF.
I felt like he was chasing choosing to not go for the TD before halftime and taking the field goal. That seemed to be the “out of character” decision for him; like he really wanted to go for the TD but chose to “take the points/play it safe” and then regretted doing that so he pushed in the second half trying to correct that decision and get back to being “aggressive” again.
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Should be a grand game. If KC can keep the niners under 25 they should win. A big part of their very successful past two months has been outstanding defense and mahomes running a clinic on ball control. It seems if anyone is finally willing to take advantage of San Fransisco’s shaky run defense, it’s Andy Reid.
The niners will have their three headed offensive monster healthy so strap in. Fitting that a game that should depend on the finest of margins is between these two mad scientist head coaches
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Come on, SFO. Hold em, DENY them.
Oh well. Who cares wins?
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FREE FOOTBALL
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Well shit, even I could have caught that last pass.
EDIT: That game was a lesson in why you can’t let Mahomes find space to run the ball. The Niners had the Chiefs dead to rights on more than a few occasions until they let Patrick get into “fine, I’ll do it my damned self” mode.
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This year the Chiefs took undisputed first place in the AFC West in both division titles and Super Bowl wins, and they did so in the Raiders stadium with the Lombardi handed to them by John Elway.
I'm sorry to fans of both of those franchises but you could not write a more spiteful poetic sequence of events.
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Congratulations to the Chiefs, well fought game. You know it's a good one when it comes down to the last seconds of OT to settle it. :)
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Great game.
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Congratulations to the Chiefs, well fought game. You know it's a good one when it comes down to the last seconds of OT to settle it. :)
Apparently if time had expired it would have gone into OT2 and the field flipped like at the end of a normal quarter. They were getting the end of that possession no matter which OT it happened in.
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Apparently if time had expired it would have gone into OT2 and the field flipped like at the end of a normal quarter. They were getting the end of that possession no matter which OT it happened in.
Learned something new every day. I noticed that (I assume it is all playoff games) there are no OT limits in the Superbowl. Will continue with OT-periods untill a winner is determined.
And here I'd hoped it would end on field goal shootouts (each time have to score from the X yard line, increasing it with 5 yards from each completion). :D
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This year the Chiefs took undisputed first place in the AFC West in both division titles and Super Bowl wins, and they did so in the Raiders stadium with the Lombardi handed to them by John Elway.
I'm sorry to fans of both of those franchises but you could not write a more spiteful poetic sequence of events.
Hello from hell.
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/022/134/elmo.jpg)
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Learned something new every day. I noticed that (I assume it is all playoff games) there are no OT limits in the Superbowl. Will continue with OT-periods untill a winner is determined.
And here I'd hoped it would end on field goal shootouts (each time have to score from the X yard line, increasing it with 5 yards from each completion). :D
It is the same for all of the playoffs.
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I almost feel like I'm cheating a little waiting this late into pre-season to make my predictions but what ever at this point.
AFC
North: Bengals. No one else really feels like they can quite topple them yet.
West: Chiefs. I mean really this is a team that will be difficult to topple for a few years yet.
South: Colts. Only because I feel like if I go with Titans something will happen to make sure they don't win the division.
East: Dolphins. I fully expect Rogers to be on IR and Buffalo just cannot seem to get over the last hurdle.
Wildcards: Bills and Jaguars and Titans
NFC
North: Packers. Lions will make a good showing this year but it's still Detroit, they're not allowed nice things.
West: 49ers.
South: Bucs. Mostly because someone has to and I don't trust the other teams to be able to avoid the injury bug.
East: WFT.
Wildcards: Seahawks and Eagles and Detroit
Super bowl:
Chiefs over the 49ers.
Wow I did bad with my predictions this year. And yeah I don't want to take credit for that yellow prediction. That's just too ooph for me.
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The NFL just handed Jimmy G a 2 game ban for using performance enhancing drugs. I don't think the NFL watched any Raiders games if they thought anything could enhance his performance.
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That time already, eh? OK.
AFC:
North: Bengals. With respect to the Ravens, this isn't even a competition. Cincy is SCARY. Cleveland has taken a serious step back from that fun 2021 season, and the Steelers definitely are in build-mode. Unless injuries mount at key positions, the Bengals are going to roll this one early and often. Only team in the division to miss the playoffs... that 'key position' turned out to be 'Burrow died'.
West: Chiefs. I don't get what the Chargers are doing, the Raiders doubly so, and Denver... just makes me drink. This division is all KC until Mahomes retires. Never any doubt. Never is. We'll see the heat-death of the universe before one of the others becomes competent enough to knock them off their pedestal.
South: Jacksonville. A weak division is a feeding ground for a Jags team that made some very good steps forward late last season, particularly with the Titans not looking like they did much to keep up in the offseason (Derrick Henry is a year older, etc.) What an absolutely epic collapse- even at the start of December I thought they had a legit path to an AFC championship game. I still can't figure out how they unraveled that quickly.
East: Bills, with a giant caveat- I really do think that if the Dolphins stay healthy, that offense could make for a tight race to the finish. That's a huge 'if', of course, particularly at QB, but there's potential here to be interesting at least. I'm not sold on the Jets at all, meanwhile. Well, I was right about all that- the Dolphins offense certainly held up to form all year, at least against bad teams. And I was right not to be sold on the Jets- if not quite the way I expected.
Wild Cards: Ravens, Dolphins, Chargers
NFC:
North: Lions. I don't think I've ever been able to type that with a straight face before, but that looks like a pretty great team this year. The Vikings were the most underwhelming 13-win team I can think of in recent memory, and Rodgers left, so... why not Detroit? [/Zoidberg] That opening week defeat of the Chiefs set the tone all year. Detroit looks like they're going to be a danger for a long time to come... perhaps with a little smarter decisions by their coach.
West: 49ers. All that messy QB stuff has kind of overshadowed that if ONE of their many guys was healthy in the second half of that playoff game last winter, SanFran was a juggernaut. I don't see them getting boned like that two years in a row, though I'll be interested to see what they do with Lance now. No one else in this division is even relevant in comparison. I owe the Rams an apology, because that was a good comeback year by them, but other than the heartbreak against the Chiefs that was a dominant season by the 49ers.
South: Er... I have to pick one, don't I? This is a wasteland. Let's say the Saints and move on, I guess. Bucs, and who saw Baker Mayfield having a comeback year like that? Still, what a mess of a division.
East: HELLBIE UPSET SPECIAL Commanders. I know, I know. But no one has won this division twice in a row in almost two decades, so as good as the Eagles are, I'm going to have some fun. I don't really feel like the Giants are a great team, and Dallas still feels like they're missing something hard to put my finger on, so... you know what, Sam Howell impressed the hell out of me the other night. Let's see if the post-Snyder vibes carry them a little. AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA what absinthe did I pour in my coffee for this one? Howell was the most-sacked QB in the league, half the defense was traded by Thanksgiving, just an absolute train wreck... which isn't all that unexpected as they fix the Snyder damage long-term, but how I thought they were going to be better than the Eagles or Cowboys, I have no explanation beyond 'Hellbe has old head trauma'.
Wild Cards: Eagles, Cowboys, Vikings
Super Bowl: 49ers over Chiefs in a game we'll be talking about for years I was a couple of bad OT play calls away from this one being right...
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The NFL just handed Jimmy G a 2 game ban for using performance enhancing drugs. I don't think the NFL watched any Raiders games if they thought anything could enhance his performance.
I've heard it was a banned substance contained in pills intended to enhance a... different performance.
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The even sillier part is supposedly it isn't exactly a banned substance either in that there was a form he could have filled out and the NFL would have been fine with it too.
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The even sillier part is supposedly it isn't exactly a banned substance either in that there was a form he could have filled out and the NFL would have been fine with it too.
At the end of the day, though, that's the job. That's the contract you signed. You agreed to all these rules- and that means that anything you're taking, whether to heal from injuries, to deal with allergies, to... 'enhance' yourself... whatever. You agreed- via the contract, via the union's CBA, via the rules of the league you play for- that you'd disclose all of this, clear it with team doctors, whatever other hoops to jump through. He didn't.
Look, is this as big of a deal as the league is making it into? Probably not, really. Is the league doing the Raiders a solid by giving them a signed and sealed reason to drop Garoppolo without having to pay him? Ohhhhhh yeah. But did he give the league and the team that opportunity? Also yes. It sucks for him (and for the Broncos, who almost certainly will do something stupid very shortly about him as soon as Russ clears the books), but all he had to do was fill out this form and we wouldn't be here.
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At the end of the day, though, that's the job. That's the contract you signed. You agreed to all these rules- and that means that anything you're taking, whether to heal from injuries, to deal with allergies, to... 'enhance' yourself... whatever. You agreed- via the contract, via the union's CBA, via the rules of the league you play for- that you'd disclose all of this, clear it with team doctors, whatever other hoops to jump through. He didn't.
Look, is this as big of a deal as the league is making it into? Probably not, really. Is the league doing the Raiders a solid by giving them a signed and sealed reason to drop Garoppolo without having to pay him? Ohhhhhh yeah. But did he give the league and the team that opportunity? Also yes. It sucks for him (and for the Broncos, who almost certainly will do something stupid very shortly about him as soon as Russ clears the books), but all he had to do was fill out this form and we wouldn't be here.
Oh yes. No denying at least some, if not most of the sillyness, is on Jimmy G's part for not taking care of his business.
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Broncos Nation, let’s ride (Russ out of town)
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Broncos Nation, let’s ride (Russ out of town)
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And just as Russ is leaving, so is the season for another one (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=84293.0)....