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BattleTech Game Universe => The Inner Sphere => Topic started by: Minemech on 24 April 2024, 17:40:56
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Who do you find to be the most interesting Character(s) as of 3152? Why? Feel free to expand on the strengths and flaws of any character.
If you want me to add someone, say so and I will try to as soon as I see it.
I am allowing up to 3 votes so people can have some wiggle room, but you can name more in the thread.
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Ack -- I put "Othar" because I misread it for "other"... I was going to cast a joint vote for Ronan and Bel Carlyle, just as I've been greatly enjoying the exploits of the reborn Grey Death Legion.
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Ack -- I put "Othar" because I misread it for "other"... I was going to cast a joint vote for Ronan and Bel Carlyle, just as I've been greatly enjoying the exploits of the reborn Grey Death Legion.
Added and reset
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Nikol Marik: a fresh young Marik character that legitimately seems to be trying to be a good leader for the right reasons.
Danai Liao: similar to Nikol, but with less naivety. Probably going to be doing great things.
Yori Kurita: because she’s Kurita and none of the other choices had any real appeal.
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The Carlyle siblings mainly for resurrecting the Gray Death Legion and not needing a Mackies level of plot armour to keep going. I would like to add Peter Cobb for making a niche Clan something to look out for.
Of course the credit goes to the current generation of authors. Keep up the good work.
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Ludwig Steiner, he actually made gains that lasted to the end of a book and the stability of the Commonwealth hinges on him not wanting to be Archon but also having the Archon tell everyone that they're close friends, possibly besties.
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I voted for Yori, Julian, and Danai. No specific order. They've all had a hell of a decade, and I'm curious to read more about all three.
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Danai Liao-Centrella (let’s not forget that she’s Canopian-raised and her Centrella half is just as important to who she is as a character) and Sterling McKenna.
Danai has had a pretty solid arc for the last 20ish years of publication and Sterling has made an art form out of wrapping idiot men around her finger in a way that would make the Centrellas proud.
I’d vote for Peter Cobb as my third but he has yet to stand out as anything but a James Cobb clone, IMO.
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I might add Haya Tetsuhara the CO of the newly formed Zeta Battalion. Though perhpas she is still missing some more background / story elements so far.
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For me it's "what characters as of 3152 are in the most intreasting situations?"
and I think the winners for me are Alaric Ward, Julian Davion and Yori Kurita.
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Yori and Toranaga stood out for me as making the most DC the DC has felt in a long time. Since Toranaga died, that leaves her.
Othar stands out to me as the first interesting Clan Wolf Character since Ulric.
After that, it drops off dramatically for individuals and I’m more engaged with the faction as a character. If I had to pick a third, maybe Levin as I really want to see what the old soldier does now. The rest of my picks are dead and gone.
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I would say I am interested in what Tucker does. First he was the guy who managed to get a HPG running and therefor becoming the most wanted man in the IS. Now we have a man who has not his former full mental capacity but still manages feats you might not think possible like finding Stone where no one else could or vanishing into thin air on a conquered Terra. Makes me wonder what the Ilclan era has in store for him considering what he went through
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Danai Liao-Centrella (let’s not forget that she’s Canopian-raised and her Centrella half is just as important to who she is as a character)
I fear the addition will make finding her more difficult for some. I know it can go both ways, so it is a judgement call. I should have just placed her first to avoid that issue.
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I fear the addition will make finding her more difficult for some. I know it can go both ways, so it is a judgement call. I should have just placed her first to avoid that issue.
I was just pointing out that this is her actual name and what she goes by in every bit of publication. It's technically true of Daoshen, but he intentionally drops the Centrella.
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Technically, it's not spelled out that any or all of them are still around as of June 3152, as the updates in their home region of space extend only as far as 3151 at this time of typing.
That said, I'm interested to see more of what lies in store for Khan Magon Scott, zarKhan Emmy Line, and Star Colonel (and possibly the new saKhan?) Rudolf Schmidt, not least as and when definitive news from Terra reaches the Scorpion Empire.
On the one hand, there is the interesting dynamic of ex-Hansa MechWarriors gaining an increased presence in the Empire's military and civilian leadership. And how well - or badly - this new development might be received among those in the touman representing the various constituent peoples of the pre-3140 Imperio.
On the other hand, with their new holding in the Chaine Cluster as a forward observation point, and with the means of running a fully functional HPG network in their back pocket, what manner of diplomatic stance might the Empire's leadership take when the time comes to negotiate with Alaric Ward's ilClan Wolf - to include seeing whether or not the new Star League Council might agree to un-Abjure Clan Goliath Scorpion?
Plus, with ongoing Seeker quests continuing to be launched, to what extent might this act as a "wild card", in terms of either helping or hindering the Khan and zarKhan's foreign policy? Or rather, now that the Scorpions are being obliged to take such a thing as "foreign policy" seriously, at least more so than at any time since the Abjuration from the Homeworlds, to what extent might they re-frame their ongoing commitment to the Seeker movement in light of this?
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The Shrapnel story about the Scorpion empire told about the new reorganisation of the empire which includes are more direct integration of the Hanse population while also dealing with Clan hardliners. Plus they apparently won't reach out to the Wolves but rather wait for them to come to the Empire and then negotiate with them. As Emmy pointed out in her appointment speech they are no longer beholden to the rede of the Clans and view Kerensky's way of the Clan as folly. So if Alaric (if at that point he is still IlKhan) overplays his hand he just might make a new enemy. One he can't reach easily as the Empire is "way out there"
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Emmy Line: "We won't let this ilClan interfere with our unique way of life!"
Alaric: "I don't even know who you are."
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Emmy Line: "We won't let this ilClan interfere with our unique way of life!"
Alaric: "I don't even know who you are."
I bet the Wolf watch has a folder somewhere called "weirdos" and the Scorpions fill the entire section. In all seriousness they at least had contact with the Scorpions during the Dark Age when they raidedwolf-occupied Solaris VII for the content of a museum which included the head of Kerensky's Orion
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I think Gavin Marik-Davion is the single most interesting character. What’s his angle? Is he trying to help Julian, or displace him? What resources does he have access to? A lot of mystery there yet to be revealed.
I think Julian and Trillian are both in interesting, tricky situations. While they may not be personally as interesting (though I *don’t* find Julian to be just a Victor clone as some have said in the past), I am interested to see how they navigate their respective ships of state through the particularly treacherous seas they find themselves in.
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At the time of the Moving Forward story in Shrapnel #6, the most up-to-date information the Scorpions had on the situation in and around Terra was six months out of date - and that was considered to be a relatively quick update, by the standards of the post-Blackout Inner Sphere and near Periphery.
But that was before the seizure of the enclave in the Chaine Cluster, and before work began in earnest to run an HPG relay from there back to the Empire proper.
Now, it's all but certain that June 3152 is still much too soon for this relay network to be operational. But even the process of creating it would steadily cut down the time needed for more-up-to-date information to reach Braunschweig - and once the relay is complete, news can be sent back and forth as readily as had been between the Clan Occupation Zones and Strana Mechty prior to the Wars of Reaving.
Even if Clan Sea Fox's efforts to restore the Inner Sphere HPG network are only beginning to roll out by that time, this would still allow the Scorpion leadership to negotiate directly with the Khanate(s) located in and around the Chainelane Isles - and, through them, to other Khanates elsewhere in known space. But once the Foxes get more and more HPGs back up and running (or if the Scorpions themselves change tack, in terms of how much they leverage their own capacity to build functional HPGs), the Scorpions would be able to contact other Clan and/or Inner Sphere leaders... not least of which being the ilKhan on Terra itself.
Once that happens, it's quite possible that the stance taken by the Scorpion leadership at that point is different from the one the zarKhan articulated in her inaugural address. And, once the knowledge that the Scorpions have functioning HPGs, and the capacity to deploy them far from their home systems, reaches Terra in turn, perhaps that might act as an inducement towards reversing the Council of Six's Abjuration of Clan Goliath Scorpion - even if going as far as to offer the Scorpions a seat on the new Star League Council is a matter for further consideration.
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On a side note: beyond the Chaine Cluster holdings, I would still like to see the Scorpions increase their presence in the "on-map" Inner Sphere and near Periphery. While the majority of the touman would stay at home in case the Homeworld Clans ever decide to show up, I might yet wonder if a Galaxy's worth of forces could be spared to take a shot at the dezgra pirates of the Rim Territories.
(Bonus points if the Scorpions revert any planets they seize there back to their old Star League-era names.)
That might lessen their dependence on the goodwill of their Sea Fox hosts in the Chainelane Isles, give their more restless warriors somewhere to be deployed (so as to keep them from causing trouble closer to home), open up the border worlds of the Lyran Commonwealth to trade with the Scorpions' ex-Hansa merchant caste, and enable them to establish more forward operation bases for future Seeker quests.
Although, with the headache of the Hinterlands on the Archon's mind, I might wonder how the prospect of yet another Clan parking armed forces on the Commonwealth's doorstep might be received over on Tharkad.
But then, the Scorpions still (more or less) self-identify as Wardens. If they are helping to get rid of the pirates, and hold back from making claims on Lyran space proper - which would be more than a single Galaxy could handle, at any rate - perhaps the trade-off would not be an overly negative one?
Plus, there's no guarantee that negotiations between the Scorpions and the ilClan would go well. If things go badly on that front, there's nothing to prevent the Scorpions from negotiating with the Lyrans instead...
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Maybe this should be taken to the Scorpion thread instead of cluttering up this one.
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Technically, it's not spelled out that any or all of them are still around as of June 3152, as the updates in their home region of space extend only as far as 3151 at this time of typing.
That said, I'm interested to see more of what lies in store for Khan Magon Scott, zarKhan Emmy Line, and Star Colonel (and possibly the new saKhan?) Rudolf Schmidt, not least as and when definitive news from Terra reaches the Scorpion Empire. .....
Upcoming Battletech Universe book has sections about plans for the future for each faction so we should be updated on the direction everyone will be taking including Scorpions
As for characters I would love to see interactions between former adversaries and now throtkin Scott and Schmidt
Scott has been a busy little scorpion bee with running and reforming Empire while Schmidt got tired of politics and went back into being a soldier but due to way Clans are structured warrior status comes with political duties attached and he is now going back to political gig despite not being into it
I want to see these two having to get the big jobs done together, it would be cool watching guys with such different backgrounds suddenly having to work closely together on massive project
Plus I'd LOVE to see two of them getting jumped by couple of lances of some randos with delusions of grandeur thinking the two geezers would be easy pickings only to end up in a their own private horror movie :grin:
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We're missing a few that are vitally important for the future of the Draconis Combine, the Rasalhauge Dominion, the Jade Falcon Occupation Zone, the Taurian Concordat, the Magistracy of Canopus and the Marian Hegemony.
Sarah Bekker Khan of Clan Ghost Bear
Hjalmer Miraborg Prince of the Rasalhauge Dominion
Jiyi Chistu Khan of Jade Falcon
Sarah Regis Governor General of the Tamar Pact
Marena Syndic of the Alyina Merchant Leauge
Vedet Brewer Leader of the Vesper Marches and the former Duke of Hesperus II
Isolde Centrella, Colonel in the MAF and potential heir to the Magistracy of Canopus
Caesar Ignatius O'Reilly, leader of the Marian Hegemony
Duke Ari Humphreys, Duke of Andurien
Ilse Centrella, Magestrix of the Magistracy of Canopus
Kaff Doru, the Protector of the Taurian Concordat
Sam Calderon the Protector of the Calderon Protectorate
Out of these I'm most nterested in Sara Regis, as I love the idea of a realm using Lyran trappings but without the idiocy of Lyran social general ship. The Hinterlands is the new Chaos March and it's awesome.
Kaff Doru as it's finally awesome to see Davion get humbled by the Concordat and put the band back together. The Taurians had a giant crap sandwich handed to them since the Jihad and they need the Calderon Protectorate to finally get back lost territory and more production
Isolde Centrella. The brew between the Magistracy, Liao, the Marians, the Duchy of Andurien, and Marik is awesome. Will the alliance survive? Will the Hegemony defeat the quarter of the Magistracy's armed might sent on its way to conquer Alphard? Will the Duchy of Andurien and Canopus merge into a new Great Sixth House?
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We're missing a few that are vitally important for the future of the Draconis Combine, the Rasalhauge Dominion, the Jade Falcon Occupation Zone, the Taurian Concordat, the Magistracy of Canopus and the Marian Hegemony.
Sarah Bekker Khan of Clan Ghost Bear
Hjalmer Miraborg Prince of the Rasalhauge Dominion
Jiyi Chistu Khan of Jade Falcon
Sarah Regis Governor General of the Tamar Pact
Marena Syndic of the Alyina Merchant Leauge
Vedet Brewer Leader of the Vesper Marches and the former Duke of Hesperus II
Isolde Centrella, Colonel in the MAF and potential heir to the Magistracy of Canopus
Caesar Ignatius O'Reilly, leader of the Marian Hegemony
Duke Ari Humphreys, Duke of Andurien
Ilse Centrella, Magestrix of the Magistracy of Canopus
Kaff Doru, the Protector of the Taurian Concordat
Sam Calderon the Protector of the Calderon Protectorate
Out of these I'm most nterested in Sara Regis, as I love the idea of a realm using Lyran trappings but without the idiocy of Lyran social general ship. The Hinterlands is the new Chaos March and it's awesome.
Kaff Doru as it's finally awesome to see Davion get humbled by the Concordat and put the band back together. The Taurians had a giant crap sandwich handed to them since the Jihad and they need the Calderon Protectorate to finally get back lost territory and more production
Isolde Centrella. The brew between the Magistracy, Liao, the Marians, the Duchy of Andurien, and Marik is awesome. Will the alliance survive? Will the Hegemony defeat the quarter of the Magistracy's armed might sent on its way to conquer Alphard? Will the Duchy of Andurien and Canopus merge into a new Great Sixth House?
The more interesting question will be who of those will survive the coming years considering we are hitting anew round of full fledged fighting. I can see the Caesar actually dying considering Alphard will be invaded. I would think the same of Vedet Brewer because he might be the best target for the Commonwealth to make an example of (a full fledged traitor) and maybe even Miraborg for follishly leading the Dominion into a war with the Combine.
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Well Brewer managed to survive losing the Archonship, and he's a pretty smart operator, so I can see him coming out on top in case of Rasalhauge Dominion or Hell's Horses invasion. Sarah Regis and the Falcon splinter groups seem like the more militarily powerful groups, and both Clans have bones to pick with the Falcons. The Kell Hounds are pretty much the only military lifeline Steiner has in the Hinterlands right now other then some LIC stuff, as Trillian has to deal with the Timbuktu situation so she can rebuild her trust at home along with whatever adventures she decides to take against Marik. She'd be better off putting the Commonwealth back together then worrying about leftover Jade Falcon scraps that are facing potential invasions.
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I assume that the Commonwealth will take advantage of the now defensless Wolf Empire. One of her Margraves already visited the Dragoons so I would assume they know that the Empire is just as defensless as most of the Falcon OZ. Oh yeah maybe we might get another Steiner character for the list of important persons (said Margrave who is managinmg the border with the League and Empire)
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I assume that the Commonwealth will take advantage of the now defensless Wolf Empire. One of her Margraves already visited the Dragoons so I would assume they know that the Empire is just as defensless as most of the Falcon OZ. Oh yeah maybe we might get another Steiner character for the list of important persons (said Margrave who is managinmg the border with the League and Empire)
but... they haven't.
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Well Brewer managed to survive losing the Archonship, and he's a pretty smart operator, so I can see him coming out on top in case of Rasalhauge Dominion or Hell's Horses invasion.
I don't see the Vesper Marches surviving if Fulk Lassanerra decides to stop half-assing things like his predecessor did and comes for Vedet's rump state in force. To be fair, the Horses taking stupid pills is the only reason most of the Hinterlands exists in the first place.
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I am allowing up to 3 votes so people can have some wiggle room, but you can name more in the thread.
I realized after the fact that I marked the wrong person.
I placed a vote for Yori Kurita but in my head it was Kitsune Kurita that I was thinking of.
Not sure if you want to reset that or not.
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but... they haven't.
Yet. Right now we have the League starting a general assault on the Empire. I would assume the Lyrans catch on and take some planets themselves even if just to expand their buffer zone (or even retake some vital planets like New Kyoto)
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but... they haven't.
We haven't really seen anything in the only part of the realm that they're positioned to make actual moves. Something like half the LCAF is crammed into that wedge around Hesperus pointed at Terra. But besides that, Ludwig carved out a Dixie salient that is positioned to attack a number of key worlds in the Empire, and there's also a Wolf Empire officer on Smolnik who says that the world is the only Wolf-held planet within two jumps, which suggests they've taken back Gallery and Thuban off-camera. So it seems that they have done some stuff but we haven't been looking.
I assume that the Commonwealth will take advantage of the now defensless Wolf Empire. One of her Margraves already visited the Dragoons so I would assume they know that the Empire is just as defensless as most of the Falcon OZ. Oh yeah maybe we might get another Steiner character for the list of important persons (said Margrave who is managinmg the border with the League and Empire)
His name is General Ludwig Steiner, Grand Duke of Furillo, Margrave of Buena, Duke of Porrima, Duke-in-Exile of Tamar and Skye, Victor of Valloire, Liberator of Bolan.
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I realized after the fact that I marked the wrong person.
I placed a vote for Yori Kurita but in my head it was Kitsune Kurita that I was thinking of.
Not sure if you want to reset that or not.
When there was only 1 voter it was doable, but I cannot undo someone's individual vote without resetting all votes. My hands are tied, but your post will be read in a manner assuming good faith so there is that.
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His name is General Ludwig Steiner, Grand Duke of Furillo, Margrave of Buena, Duke of Porrima, Duke-in-Exile of Tamar and Skye, Victor of Valloire, Liberator of Bolan.
Just call him "Florida Man."
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His name is General Ludwig Steiner, Grand Duke of Furillo, Margrave of Buena, Duke of Porrima, Duke-in-Exile of Tamar and Skye, Victor of Valloire, Liberator of Bolan.
I'm suddenly envisioning you following him around, carrying a banner and him being all "CSFA! Introduce me!" whenever he enters a room :)
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I'm suddenly envisioning you following him around, carrying a banner and him being all "CSFA! Introduce me!" whenever he enters a room :)
Well, as the Landgrave von Kelestra I am quite literally... his bannerman.
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His name is General Ludwig Steiner, Grand Duke of Furillo, Margrave of Buena, Duke of Porrima, Duke-in-Exile of Tamar and Skye, Victor of Valloire, Liberator of Bolan.
And then he goes "Just call me Ludwig"
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And then he goes "Just call me Ludwig"
Ludwig literally means loud warrior, famous warrior or loud in battle.
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Just call him "Florida Man."
Bravo.