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Re: A Design Challenge - Revising TRO 3050 to the Helm Retcon
« Reply #90 on: 12 January 2019, 11:39:54 »
Yesterday while driving to work, I came up with several new versions of the Griffin to go with my mod of the Shadow Hawk I had previously developed, and now I have a new version of the Wolverine to complete the classic 55 trio. Here they are:

First, a refit of the standard GRF-1N Griffin:

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GRF-1Nfr Griffin (field refit)
Mass: 55 tons
Internal Structure: 5.5 tons
Engine: CoreTek 275 - 15.5 tons
   Walk MP: 5
   Run MP: 8
   Jump MP: 5
Heat Sinks: 10(20) - 0 tons
Gyro: 3 tons
Cockpit: 3 tons
Armor Factor: 161 - 9 tons (ferro)
   H: 3/9
   CT(R): 18/20(8)
   R/LT(R): 13/20(6)
   R/LA: 9/16
   R/LL: 13/20
Weapons and Equipment:
   ER PPC - RA - 3 crits - 7 tons
   LRM-15 - RT - 3 crits - 7 tons
   Ammo(LRM)16 - RT - 2 crits - 2 tons
   CASE - RT - 1 crit - 0.5 tons
   Jump Jet - CT - 1 crit - 0.5 tons
   Jump Jets - RT - 2 crits - 1 ton
   Jump Jets - LT - 2 crits - 1 ton

Next, a refit of the GRF-1S Griffin:


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GRF-3S Griffin
Mass: 55 tons
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel - 3 tons
Engine: CoreTek 275 - 15.5 tons
   Walk MP: 5
   Run MP: 8
   Jump MP: 5
Heat Sinks: 10(20) - 0 tons
Gyro: 3 tons
Cockpit: 3 tons
Armor Factor: 152 - 8.5 tons (ferro)
   H: 3/9
   CT(R): 18/20(7)
   R/LT(R): 13/20(6)
   R/LA: 9/14
   R/LL: 13/18
Weapons and Equipment:
   ER PPC - RA - 3 crits - 7 tons
   Medium Laser - RA - 1 crit - 1 ton
   Medium Laser - LA - 1 crit - 1 ton
   LRM-15 - LT - 3 crits - 7 tons
   Artemis IV FCS - RT - 1 crit - 1 ton
   Ammo(LRM)16 - LT - 2 crits - 2 tons
   CASE - LT - 1 crit - 0.5 tons
   Jump Jet - CT - 1 crit - 0.5 tons
   Jump Jets - RT - 2 crits - 1 ton
   Jump Jets - LT - 2 crits - 1 ton

For my third and final Griffin, the GRF-3TGS:

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GRF-3TGS Griffin (Throne Guard Special)
Mass: 55 tons
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel - 3 tons
Engine: CoreTek 275XL - 8 tons
   Walk MP: 5
   Run MP: 8
   Jump MP: 5
Heat Sinks: 12(24) - 2 tons
Gyro: 3 tons
Cockpit: 3 tons
Armor Factor: 168 - 10.5 tons
   H: 3/9
   CT(R): 18/23(8)
   R/LT(R): 13/20(6)
   R/LA: 9/18
   R/LL: 13/20
Weapons and Equipment:
   Large Pulse Laser - RA - 2 crits - 7 tons
   Medium Pulse Laser - RA - 1 crit - 2 tons
   Small Pulse Laser - RA - 1 crit - 1 ton
   Machine Gun - RA - 1 crit - 0.5 tons
   Medium Pulse Laser - LA - 1 crit - 2 tons
   Small Pulse Laser - LA - 1 crit - 1 ton
   Machine Gun - LA - 1 crit - 0.5 tons
   SRM-6 - RT - 2 crits - 3 tons
   SRM-6 - LT - 2 crits - 3 tons
   Ammo(SRM)30 - LT - 2 crits - 2 tons
   Ammo(MG)100 - LT - 1 crit - 0.5 tons
   CASE - LT - 1 crit - 0.5 tons
   Jump Jet - CT - 1 crit - 0.5 tons
   Jump Jets - RT - 2 crits - 1 ton
   Jump Jets - LT - 2 crits - 1 ton

That last I see as the model used by the guards on either side of the Steiner throne, and one ton of SRM ammo should be fragmentation.

And upgraded Wolverine:


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WVR-5R Wolverine
Mass: 55 tons
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel - 3 tons
Engine: CoreTek 275 - 15.5 tons
   Walk MP: 5
   Run MP: 8
   Jump MP: 5
Heat Sinks: 10(20) - 0 tons
Gyro: 3 tons
Cockpit: 3 tons
Armor Factor: 152 - 8.5 tons (ferro)
   H: 3/8
   CT(R): 18/20(8)
   R/LT(R): 13/20(6)
   R/LA: 9/16
   R/LL: 13/16
Weapons and Equipment:
   LB-10X AC - RA - 6 crits - 11 tons
   Medium Laser - LA - 1 crit - 1 ton
   Medium Laser - H - 1 crit - 1 ton
   SRM-6 - LT - 2 crits - 3 tons
   Ammo(SRM)15 - RT - 1 crit - 1 ton
   Ammo(LB)20 - RT - 2 crits - 2 tons
   CASE - RT - 1 crit - 0.5 tons
   Jump Jet - CT - 1 crit - 0.5 tons
   Jump Jets - RL - 2 crits - 1 ton
   Jump Jets - LL - 2 crits - 1 ton

And my Shadow Hawk:


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SHD-5H Shadow Hawk
Mass: 55 tons
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel - 3 tons
Engine: CoreTek 275XL - 8 tons
   Walk MP: 5
   Run MP: 8
   Jump MP: 5
Heat Sinks: 10(20) - 0 tons
Gyro: 3 tons
Cockpit: 3 tons
Armor Factor: 160 - 10 tons
   H: 3/9
   CT(R): 18/23(8)
   R/LT(R): 13/20(6)
   R/LA: 9/16
   R/LL: 13/18
Weapons and Equipment:
   Medium Laser - RA - 1 crit - 1 ton
   Medium Laser - LA - 1 crit - 1 ton
   SRM-4 - H - 1 crit - 2 tons
   LRM-10 - RT - 2 crits - 5 tons
   Ammo(LB)20 - RT - 2 crits - 2 tons
   Ammo(SRM)25 - RT - 1 crit - 1 ton
   Ammo(LRM)24 - LT - 2 crits - 2 tons
   CASE - LT - 1 crit - 0.5 tons
   LB-10X AC - LT - 6 crits - 11 tons
   Jump Jet - CT - 1 crit - 0.5 tons
   Jump Jets - RT - 1 crit - 0.5 tons
   Jump Jets - LT - 1 crit - 0.5 tons
   Jump Jets - RL - 1 crit - 0.5 tons
   Jump Jets - LL - 1 crit - 0.5 tons

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Re: A Design Challenge - Revising TRO 3050 to the Helm Retcon
« Reply #91 on: 12 January 2019, 12:14:42 »
Is it just me, or does that Steiner throne room Griffin not have any MG ammo?  ???

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Re: A Design Challenge - Revising TRO 3050 to the Helm Retcon
« Reply #92 on: 12 January 2019, 13:04:35 »
Javelin, House Davion's favorite backstabber. Now with more battlefield endurance, if less maximum damage.

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Javelin JVN-15D
Base Tech Level: Standard (IS)
Level            Era   
-----------------------


Weight: 30 tons
BV: 670
Cost: 2,400,840 C-bills
Role: Striker

Movement: 6/9/6
Engine: 180
Heat Sinks: 10
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 51
Armor: 80/105 (Ferro-Fibrous)
                     Internal  Armor   
----------------------------------------
Head                        3      9   
Center Torso               10     12   
Center Torso (rear)                3   
Right Torso                 7     10   
Right Torso (rear)                 2   
Left Torso                  7     10   
Left Torso (rear)                  2   
Right Arm                   5      6   
Left Arm                    5      6   
Right Leg                   7     10   
Left Leg                    7     10   

Weapons       Loc  Heat 
-------------------------
Streak SRM 2   RT    2   
Streak SRM 2   RT    2   
Streak SRM 2   LT    2   
Streak SRM 2   LT    2   

Ammo               Loc  Shots 
-------------------------------
Streak SRM 2 Ammo   RT     50 

Equipment  Loc 
----------------
CASE        RT 

And the Fire Javelin. Maxed armour, and bigger guns. I know that a lot of people disparage the MPL, but there are advantages, especially for a mech that is going to be jumping behind people.

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Javelin JVN-15F 'Fire Javelin'
Base Tech Level: Standard (IS)
Level            Era   
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Weight: 30 tons
BV: 872
Cost: 2,564,640 C-bills

Movement: 6/9/6
Engine: 180
Double Heat Sinks: 10 [20]
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 51
Armor: 105/105 (Ferro-Fibrous)
                     Internal  Armor   
----------------------------------------
Head                        3      9   
Center Torso               10     16   
Center Torso (rear)                4   
Right Torso                 7     10   
Right Torso (rear)                 4   
Left Torso                  7     10   
Left Torso (rear)                  4   
Right Arm                   5     10   
Left Arm                    5     10   
Right Leg                   7     14   
Left Leg                    7     14   

Weapons             Loc  Heat 
-------------------------------
Medium Laser         LT    3   
Medium Laser         RT    3   
Medium Pulse Laser   RT    4   
Medium Pulse Laser   LT    4   

Speaking of backstabbers, the spider from 3050 is pretty good. But here's a quick swap for the -5k. It still isn't a good mech, but since it's a specialist machine I figure it would get less attention. Losing the ammo means it's no longer an active deathtrap, just mostly one.

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Spider SDR-9K
Base Tech Level: Standard (IS)

Weight: 30 tons
BV: 554
Cost: 2,879,240 C-bills

Movement: 8/12/6
Engine: 240
Double Heat Sinks: 10 [20]
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 51
Armor: 56/105 (Ferro-Fibrous)
                     Internal  Armor   
----------------------------------------
Head                        3      6   
Center Torso               10      8   
Center Torso (rear)                4   
Right Torso                 7      6   
Right Torso (rear)                 2   
Left Torso                  7      6   
Left Torso (rear)                  2   
Right Arm                   5      5   
Left Arm                    5      5   
Right Leg                   7      6   
Left Leg                    7      6   

Weapons            Loc  Heat 
------------------------------
Medium Laser        CT    3   
Small Pulse Laser   LA    2   
Small Pulse Laser   RA    2   

And for more pulse laser, here's the Marik gunboat Cicada, now kitted out as a light mech hunter with it's old side of infantry killing. It's fast enough to get the pulse laser to pulse range, has a big enough hit to get through most 3025 light mech armour in one go, and had some extra protection slathered on.

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Cicada CDA-3Cm
Base Tech Level: Standard (IS)
Level            Era   
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Experimental      -   
Advanced      3048-3054
Standard        3055+ 
Tech Rating: E/X-F-D-D

Weight: 40 tons
BV: 802
Cost: 3,465,933 C-bills

Movement: 7/11
Engine: 280
Double Heat Sinks: 10 [20]
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 67
Armor: 89/137 (Ferro-Fibrous)
                     Internal  Armor   
----------------------------------------
Head                        3      9   
Center Torso               12     12   
Center Torso (rear)                6   
Right Torso                10     10   
Right Torso (rear)                 4   
Left Torso                 10     10   
Left Torso (rear)                  4   
Right Arm                   6      5   
Left Arm                    6      5   
Right Leg                  10     12   
Left Leg                   10     12   

Weapons            Loc  Heat 
------------------------------
Large Pulse Laser   RT   10   
Small Pulse Laser   LL    2   
Small Pulse Laser   RL    2   
« Last Edit: 12 January 2019, 13:21:05 by Greatclub »

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Re: A Design Challenge - Revising TRO 3050 to the Helm Retcon
« Reply #93 on: 12 January 2019, 13:28:13 »
Is it just me, or does that Steiner throne room Griffin not have any MG ammo?  ???

Forgot to type it in...fixed now...

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Re: A Design Challenge - Revising TRO 3050 to the Helm Retcon
« Reply #94 on: 12 January 2019, 14:38:38 »
That last I see as the model used by the guards on either side of the Steiner throne, and one ton of SRM ammo should be fragmentation.

You'd think that fragmentation ammo would be the second to last kind you'd want in the same room as the Archon.

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Re: A Design Challenge - Revising TRO 3050 to the Helm Retcon
« Reply #95 on: 12 January 2019, 14:58:57 »
Absolutely not.

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Re: A Design Challenge - Revising TRO 3050 to the Helm Retcon
« Reply #96 on: 12 January 2019, 16:22:09 »
You'd think that fragmentation ammo would be the second to last kind you'd want in the same room as the Archon.

You're probably correct...better if it were tear gas instead...

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Re: A Design Challenge - Revising TRO 3050 to the Helm Retcon
« Reply #97 on: 16 January 2019, 04:10:43 »
I think this is a decent Battlemaster refit.
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BattleMaster BLR-11G
Base Tech Level: Standard (IS)
Level          Era
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Experimental    - 
Advanced        - 
Standard      3050+
Tech Rating: E/X-X-D-D

Weight: 85 tons
BV: 1,698
Cost: 8,874,943 C-bills

Movement: 4/6
Engine: 340
Double Heat Sinks: 17 [34]
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 130
Armor: 232/263
                     Internal  Armor   
----------------------------------------
Head                        3      9   
Center Torso               27     40   
Center Torso (rear)               11   
Right Torso                18     28   
Right Torso (rear)                 8   
Left Torso                 18     28   
Left Torso (rear)                  8   
Right Arm                  14     24   
Left Arm                   14     24   
Right Leg                  18     26   
Left Leg                   18     26   

Weapons                 Loc  Heat 
-----------------------------------
Medium Laser             LT    3   
Medium Laser             LT    3   
Medium Laser             RT    3   
Medium Laser             RT    3   
ER PPC                      RA   15   
Streak SRM 2             LT    2   
Streak SRM 2             LT    2   
Streak SRM 2             LT    2 
Small Pulse Laser        LA    2   
Small Pulse Laser        LA    2   
Medium Pulse Laser (R)   CT    4   

Ammo               Loc  Shots 
-------------------------------
Streak SRM 2 Ammo   LT     50 

Equipment  Loc 
----------------
CASE        LT 


And here's a new-built. For all people disparage the LPL, they genuinely are better than the 4 M Lasers they replace. Worth giving up all the potential that could be done with that weight? Maybe not, but they do give it some real in close firepower. Plus acknowledging new toy syndrome, and it's nice to be able to run in close and still have good to-hit numbers.
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BattleMaster BLR-19G
Base Tech Level: Standard (IS)
Level          Era
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Experimental    - 
Advanced        - 
Standard      3050+
Tech Rating: E/X-X-E-D

Weight: 85 tons
BV: 1,645
Cost: 9,113,593 C-bills

Movement: 4/6
Engine: 340
Double Heat Sinks: 18 [36]
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 130 (Endo-Steel)
Armor: 232/263
                     Internal  Armor   
----------------------------------------
Head                        3      9   
Center Torso               27     40   
Center Torso (rear)               11   
Right Torso                18     28   
Right Torso (rear)                 8   
Left Torso                 18     28   
Left Torso (rear)                  8   
Right Arm                  14     24   
Left Arm                   14     24   
Right Leg                  18     26   
Left Leg                   18     26   

Weapons            Loc  Heat 
------------------------------
ER PPC              RA   15   
Large Pulse Laser   RT   10   
Large Pulse Laser   LT   10   
Medium Laser (R)    CT    3   
Small Pulse Laser   LA    2   
Small Pulse Laser   LA    2   

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Re: A Design Challenge - Revising TRO 3050 to the Helm Retcon
« Reply #98 on: 16 January 2019, 05:16:00 »
I wonder why nobody brought the obvious, maybe to obvious:
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Atlas AS7-iK

Mass: 100 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-F-E-A
Production Year: 3049
Cost: 10.940.000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 2.422

Chassis: Foundation 5 Endosteel Endo-Steel
Power Plant: VLAR 300 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 32,4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54,0 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Durallex Heavy with CASE Standard Armor w/ CASE
Armament:
    1 Dragon's Fire Gauss Rifle
    1 Shigunga LRM-20 w/ Artemis IV FCS
    2 Victory Nickel Alloy ER Large Lasers
    2 Victory Heartbeat Medium Pulse Lasers
    1 Yori Flyswatter Anti-Missile System
Manufacturer: Yori MechWorks
    Primary Factory: Al Na'ir
Communications System: Sipher Security Plus
Targeting and Tracking System: Matabushi Sentinel

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                   152 points                5,00
    Internal Locations: 1 HD, 2 LT, 2 RT, 2 LA, 3 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL
Engine:             Fusion Engine                300                      19,00
    Walking MP: 3
    Running MP: 5
    Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             14(28)                    4,00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 LA, 1 RA
Gyro:               Standard                                               3,00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3,00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 304                 19,00
    CASE Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT                                             1,00

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     31           51       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  10       
                                           L/R Torso     21           33       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  9         
                                             L/R Arm     17           33       
                                             L/R Leg     21           42       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 (R) Medium Pulse Lasers                    CT        8         2         4,00
Gauss Rifle                                  RT        1         7        15,00
LRM-20                                       LT        6         5        10,00
    Artemis IV FCS                           LT        -         1         1,00
ER Large Laser                               RA        12        2         5,00
ER Large Laser                               LA        12        2         5,00
Anti-Missile System                          LA        1         1         0,50
@Gauss Rifle (16)                            RT        -         2         2,00
@LRM-20 (12)                                 LT        -         2         2,00
@Anti-Missile System (12)                    LT        -         1         1,00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 0

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:     10    Points: 24
3          4       5       5       0      4     0   Structure:  8
Special Abilities: AMS, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, IF 2

well who ever was trapped in a canyon hunted by mobile lights and assaults will need this Atlas
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Atlas AS7-iS

Mass: 100 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-F-E-A
Production Year: 3049
Cost: 10.430.000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 2.128

Chassis: Foundation 5 Endo-Steel
Power Plant: VLAR 300 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 32,4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54,0 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 60 meters
Armor: Unknown Duralex Heavy w/ CASE
Armament:
    1  Defiance MechHunter Autocannon/20
    1  FarFire LRM-15
    2  Tronel XIII Large Pulse Lasers
    1  Defiance P3M Medium Pulse Laser
    1  Anti-Missile System
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                   152 points                5,00
    Internal Locations: 2 RT, 5 LA, 3 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL
Engine:             Fusion Engine                300                      19,00
    Walking MP: 3
    Running MP: 5
    Jumping MP: 2 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 2 CT                                               4,00
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             14(28)                    4,00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 RA
Gyro:               Standard                                               3,00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3,00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 304                 19,00
    CASE Locations: 1 LT                                                   0,50

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     31           47       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  14       
                                           L/R Torso     21           32       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  10       
                                             L/R Arm     17           34       
                                             L/R Leg     21           41       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(R) Medium Pulse Laser                       HD        4         1         2,00
Autocannon/20                                RT        7         10       14,00
LRM-15                                       LT        5         3         7,00
Large Pulse Laser                            RA        10        2         7,00
Large Pulse Laser                            LA        10        2         7,00
Anti-Missile System                          LA        1         1         0,50
@LRM-15 (16)                                 LT        -         2         2,00
@Anti-Missile System (12)                    LT        -         1         1,00
@AC/20 (10)                                  LT        -         2         2,00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 0

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:     10    Points: 21
3/1j       5       5       1       0      4     0   Structure:  8
Special Abilities: AMS, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, AC 2/2/0, IF 1


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Re: A Design Challenge - Revising TRO 3050 to the Helm Retcon
« Reply #99 on: 16 January 2019, 23:57:47 »
More NARC equipped units would have been great, here's a re-worked Javelin:

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Javelin JVN-10MC

Mass: 30 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3050
Cost: 3,956,940 C-Bills
Battle Value: 619

Chassis: Duralyte 246-E Endo-Steel
Power Plant: GM 180 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Jump Jets: Rawlings 45
    Jump Capacity: 180 meters
Armor: StarGuard I Standard Armor w/ CASE
Armament:
    2 Arrowlite SRM-4s
    1 Octagon Missile Magnet Narc Launcher
Manufacturer: Jalastar Areospace
    Primary Factory: Panpour
Communications System: Garret T10B
Targeting and Tracking System: Dynatec 128C

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    51 points                1.50
    Internal Locations: 6 LA, 6 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             180                       3.50
    Walking MP: 6
    Running MP: 9
    Jumping MP: 6 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT                                         3.00
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 HD, 2 LT
Gyro:               Standard                                               2.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 104                  6.50
    CASE Locations: 1 RT                                                   0.50

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     10           15       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  4         
                                           L/R Torso     7            10       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  4         
                                             L/R Arm     5            10       
                                             L/R Leg     7            14       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Narc Launcher                                CT        0         2         3.00
SRM-4                                        RT        3         1         2.00
SRM-4                                        LT        3         1         2.00
@Narc (Homing) (12)                          RT        -         2         2.00
@SRM-4 (Narc) (25)                           RT        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 10

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 6
6j         2       2       0       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: SNARC, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, SRM 1/1/0

Dave Talley

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Re: A Design Challenge - Revising TRO 3050 to the Helm Retcon
« Reply #100 on: 17 January 2019, 16:45:43 »
yep
easiest way to improve stuff early on was
a narc launcher on one or two fast mechs/vehicles

easier than remodeling multiple mechs to use Artemis
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Re: A Design Challenge - Revising TRO 3050 to the Helm Retcon
« Reply #101 on: 18 January 2019, 01:18:37 »
A simple refit on the 9-M Awesome. Rip out the Streaks and ammunition, and replace with two medium pulse and another small pulse.

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Re: A Design Challenge - Revising TRO 3050 to the Helm Retcon
« Reply #102 on: 18 January 2019, 05:05:36 »
A simple refit on the 9-M Awesome. Rip out the Streaks and ammunition, and replace with two medium pulse and another small pulse.

Kind of feel the same about the Marauder 5D. Rip out the Streak, ammo, and CASE to put in three more heat sinks.

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