Power is a goal. Pleasure is eternal. Welcome to Canopus.

[Empyrus]

Should be noted that the Marauder 5L sports "Ceres Heavy Stealth Armor", so it is possible the armor is made in Capellan space, Sian perhaps, and exported to the Magistracy rather than being made on-location.
Have vague recollection that some other Capellan design specifically noted its Stealth Armor being made on Sian. Can't just recall which design it was right now.

[Baldur Mekorig]

Should be noted that the Marauder 5L sports "Ceres Heavy Stealth Armor", so it is possible the armor is made in Capellan space, Sian perhaps, and exported to the Magistracy rather than being made on-location.
Have vague recollection that some other Capellan design specifically noted its Stealth Armor being made on Sian. Can't just recall which design it was right now.

There is always the chance of licencing, but capellans were paranoid enough at that time. IIRC the Taurians only got their own Stealth Armor acess free from the capellans after they just copied the thing.

[Empyrus]

There is always the chance of licencing, but capellans were paranoid enough at that time. IIRC the Taurians only got their own Stealth Armor acess free from the capellans after they just copied the thing.

Yuup. And Lyrans had some issues with them getting plans in ancient Chinese  ;D

[jimdigris]

https://bg.battletech.com/forums/ground-combat/marauder-2r/msg1335549/#msg1335549

Could you give me the source in-print?  Someone saying that in the forums isn't the same thing.

[Baldur Mekorig]

Could you give me the source in-print?  Someone saying that in the forums isn't the same thing.

Honestly, i dont remember a "in-print" source right now. But Alexander Knight is not just "someone", but a member of the MUL team. If you like, you can ask him for the source.

[Empyrus]

Objectives The Periphery does say "Marauder" but does not specify the model.
But the 5L (or 6L) would be a pretty safe bet, even if they used to manufacture 3Rs or so, it seems far more likely the factory would be upgraded for 5Ls than the earlier Marik 5M refit.

Not like there's many options:
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Filter?Name=marauder&HasBV=false&MinTons=&MaxTons=&MinBV=&MaxBV=&MinIntro=&MaxIntro=&MinCost=&MaxCost=&HasBFAbility=&MinPV=&MaxPV=&BookAuto=&FactionAuto=&Factions=33

[Maelwys]

I think the original answer was from Kit at some point, but I don't recall where it was in the forums (official or not) or which iteration of the boards it was.

[glitterboy2098]

if they used to make the -3R, the easiest update would have been the -2R. ERPPCs, DHS, and Ferro-Fib would be very easy for them to make, and the -2R is still a pretty good and solid unit even in the 3100's.

[Starfury]

Objectives Periphery page 16 indicates MMM makes the 5L Marauder on Canopus IV as of 3079.  Combine that with the 5L's availability to the Canopians MUL list and they're probably making them even under Wobbie occupation and then back to to the returning Canopians.  Any 2Rs the Canopians have I assume they're buying from the Taurians.

[Empyrus]

Objectives Periphery page 16 indicates MMM makes the 5L Marauder on Canopus IV as of 3079.

I only see mention of "Marauder", no mention whatsoever about specific model.

[jimdigris]

Honestly, i dont remember a "in-print" source right now. But Alexander Knight is not just "someone", but a member of the MUL team. If you like, you can ask him for the source.

He may have gone by the MUL list.  That only tells what units are operated by a faction in significant numbers.  The Capellan-designed models may have come from Capellan factories.
I sent Alexander Knight a request for clarification.

[jimdigris]

A little blurb in Rec guide 21:
The Cavaliers have "older" Clan mechs.  I wonder what constitutes older?  And where did they get them?  The Foxes deny it.

[Maelwys]

and another little blurb from that...

The Magistracy is bringing some of the independent planets in the area into the fold.

[ComStarHipHopDotCom]

I wonder if Canopus takes credit for BattleMech beach volleyball the same way North Carolina takes credit for "First in Flight", where someone from somewhere else invented the thing, but they contributed the sand dunes where it first happened.

[jimdigris]

I am a little surprised by something.  The latest Shrapnel mentioned that outbreaks of sexually-transmitted diseases are associated with pleasure circuses.  You would think that the high state of medicine in the Magistracy would mean that most of the population is vaccinated against the major STDs, especially the sex workers.

[Daryk]

I would figure they're the vector, not the source.

[Ian Sharpe]

Any exciting developments in the last 7 years, mech or plot wise?

[Maelwys]

Plot-wise not much unless I've missed something major.  Still bound up with the Capellans.

Mech-wise, well the Recognition Guide series that sort of makes up WYSIWG designs for the redone unseen from the Kickstarter gives them producing a new Shadow Hawk variant on Dunianshire. It has CASE II and a Enhanced LRM on it (half the usual minimum range). So more hightech production atleast.

Additional access to Clantech from the Golden Century TRO that the Sea Foxes put out for sale.

[jimdigris]

If you haven't purchased "Empire Alone", I strongly recommend it.  There are some major developments.

[BrianDavion]

If you haven't purchased "Empire Alone", I strongly recommend it.  There are some major developments.

yeah what Jim said.


The Alliance with the capellans is in the process of unraveling I think


also some new centrellas to be excited about.

[jimdigris]

It may not go that far. Ilsa may throw Andurien under the bus.
Meanwhile, it seems like an oracle told Caesar “If you invade Canopus, a great nation will fall” and he didn’t bother to ask “Which one?”.

[Maelwys]

Nice to see the Magistracy get some page count. Nice additions. Nice cliffhanger.

[Maelwys]

And if you haven't seen it yet, the Shrapnel series has some Magistracy produced/used small arms that are interesting.

[Kerfuffin(925)]

It may not go that far. Ilsa may throw Andurien under the bus.
Meanwhile, it seems like an oracle told Caesar “If you invade Canopus, a great nation will fall” and he didn’t bother to ask “Which one?”.

I think I liked this book more than the previous one, there is a lot more ambiguity around what will happen, completely opposite of the run up to Hour of the Wolf.

[VhenRa]

It may not go that far. Ilsa may throw Andurien under the bus.
Meanwhile, it seems like an oracle told Caesar “If you invade Canopus, a great nation will fall” and he didn’t bother to ask “Which one?”.

Honestly, the feeling I'm getting is Ilsa might not be consulted on Canopian affairs in long run.

[Maelwys]

I dunno. The Regent hasn't done much to indicate they'd want to take over, and Isolde is new at playing general and isn't really right for Magestrix just yet.

[jimdigris]

What surprises me is how Ilsa has reacted to Daoshen's treatment of her.  Instead of giving the Anduriens the green light to take Capellan worlds, she could simply have given the order to all Magistracy units in Capellan space to return to the Magistracy.  There would be no aggression among the alliance and Ilsa would be reminding Daoshen that he needs her cooperation.

[Maelwys]

I dunno. I think people are discounting Ari Humphreys too much. If you check out his RPG stats, he's got a higher strategic skill than Ilsa does. It may have been his idea for the attack more than hers (Sadurni not withstanding). Also, maybe those troops are trapped in place with no quick JumpShip support.

[GreekFire]

I dunno. I think people are discounting Ari Humphreys too much. If you check out his RPG stats, he's got a higher strategic skill than Ilsa does. It may have been his idea for the attack more than hers (Sadurni not withstanding). Also, maybe those troops are trapped in place with no quick JumpShip support.

Prior to EA, Ilsa was likely the leader in that pairing. Ari was shown to be rather enamoured with Ilsa in the relevant MWDA novel, and she was definitely presented as being the dominant partner in that marriage. Entirely possible things changed over time, though.

[Kerfuffin(925)]

What surprises me is how Ilsa has reacted to Daoshen's treatment of her.  Instead of giving the Anduriens the green light to take Capellan worlds, she could simply have given the order to all Magistracy units in Capellan space to return to the Magistracy.  There would be no aggression among the alliance and Ilsa would be reminding Daoshen that he needs her cooperation.

they mention how she makes all kinds of unscheduled stops on her way to visit Daoshen, I am sure she used those stops to seed Andurian units like she did on Joppa with her own. Who’s idea that was is up in the air