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Outside of Military deployment zones when was the Map changed?
When was the Estates General disbanded?
If they got Katie on the Throne how did they have no power?

In the 3040s, when the District of Donegal, Tamar Pact and Federation of Skye had their borders redrawn and the District was carved up.

Same answer, when it lost all power.

Katrina, not Katherine. You know, that whole business with Alessandro?

And to enemy Nr 6: Retire them - forcefully, if you have to.

Katrina's plan was to strap rockets to young talent and have them push old wood out. Unfortunately, her successors didn't follow through; Hanse didn't have the patience and just tried to put Davions in charge, while Melissa didn't have the spine to keep forcing people out, hence we get Nondi Steiner not being put out to pasture after her brain got broken in 3039.
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Agreed w/ most of what you have said several times.

In regards to the above.

The majority of Lyran people actually supported the FC-Alliance.
IIRC the quote from the Sourcebooks was something like 75% or Higher of the Citizens of Both Nations were Always in favor of the FC Alliance.

The only legitimately sized opposition came from 6 sources.

1-3  Alessandro Steiner, Fredrick Steiner, & Aldo Lestrade
4.  To a lesser extent Skye Citizens since they are the most "influenced" by their leadership.  (For the record, they are also the biggest Gainers from the FC Alliance IIRC)
5.  Michael Hasek-Davion
6.  Social Generals that feared they would be replaced by the Tactics/Strategies of the AFFS.

So you had 4 Nobles that all stood to lose personal power through the nation being stronger & they lose effective control over their little fiefdoms.
Some incompetent officers that needed to be replaced for the most part.
Finally you had the Skye Citizens which more than any other are screaming to be independent.
Noted above, Skye gained more economically & militarily from the Alliance than any other section of either nation AFAIK.

The vast majority of Citizens & Military & Lesser Nobles all favored the alliance.

The enemies of the FC Allience numbers 1,2,3,5 are removed (dead, new identity) after the 4th Succession War. They are replaced on the Steiner side by Ryan Steiner.
And the people of Skye, sorry, but would anybody just shut them up with: "Either you behave or we withdraw our forces and let the Draconis Combine have you. Maybe then you see, how good you have it as citizens of the LC and later FC."

And to enemy Nr 6: Retire them - forcefully, if you have to. Or, Katrina should have shamed them into silence by awarding "medals" for loosing. (I once wrote a fanfic where I made Katrina introduce the Steiner Loss medal.
A quote:
Social General 1: I have the Steiner Loss medal 3rd class for loosing 2 planets.
Social General 2: Looser, I am a better Social General because I have the Steiner Loss medal 2nd class with nettle leaves and broken germanium wings for loosing 10 planets and a friendly fire incident where I destroyed one of our own jump ship yards.

Force those Social Generals to parade around the Triad showing their incompetence by displaying such medals. And they should be BIG, diameter at least 6 inches. You know, the Steiner way of the Kuritan Honor of Wakizashi.)

I can believe that people would be in favor of the F-C Alliance. That plan actually works pretty well. They'd been tacit allies since the start of the 3rd Succession War and still have trade relations and academy exchanges to the current day. The problems started coming up when they decided to try and combine into a single state and, oh, it turns out we don't have very much in common except one enemy and a vague commitment to the concepts of Classical Liberalism. You ever had a friend or partner who you got along with and then you got the bright idea to move in together, and it became a disaster?

Yes, I agree. Two different realms cannot be united into one way of thinking. But what if they had tried to unite them in spirit? Whenever I read the fanfic "This was easier on the tabletop" I would like to have the protagonist influence Katrina, Melissa and Hanse to commission some adverts - and for the Steiner side it means also praisiing an enemy of Katrina.

Think of:
Tent of a General. And three shadowy figures are seen before him.
General (not to be said which realm (Steiner or Davion) he is from): "The enemy is coming down this way."
The first shadowy figure steps forward and is revealed as a Steiner colonel: "And the Lyran wall of steel stops them here."
General: "But what about the second thrust?"
Davion colonel: "And the Davion cavalry will stop them here."
General: "But here we can employ none of your tactics."
FedCom colonel steps forward: "We will do it. We combine both worlds and do it."

Or:
In Davion space:
You mastered the art of cavalry warfare, but are you up to a challenge? Can you master the Lyran wall of steel like Colonel Frederick Steiner? Nearly no light mechs, always in danger of outmaneuvered by the lighter opponents, but still he prevailed.

In Steiner space:
You mastered the art of the Lyran wall of steel, but are you up to a challenge? Can you master the cavalry warfare of House Davion like Colonel Ardan Sortek? No assault mechs and always in danger of being overpowerd.
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I second this...

TT
Every time you give a fanfic author "UPDATE WHEN" as a comment, it kills their motivation to post!  So instead, I'm gonna encourage Chris by posting about why I think that Captain Roger Moltjoner was acting perfectly within character.  First of all, he's riding high.  This posting has to be one of the most prestigious he's ever had-liason officers in House Davion's contracts with mercenaries tend to hold a pretty short leash, even for units like the Highlanders, and the Highlanders are one of the most famous units in the Sphere, certainly top 20 mercenary groups.  The 5th DLC are a prestigious unit in their own way, but nothing like the Highlanders, and for a mere captain, this is the biggest feather his cap has ever held.  And he's at a party with the Heiress-designate, First Princess-consort, and all the other movers and shakers that accompany them.

Secondly, John Smith is a guy with an unsually highly tuned sense of 'something is wrong' and who isn't escalating this up the chain of command.  Yes, something unsuual is going on, but parties like this never go entirely without improvisation or plans changing or a last-minute switchup.  Or, even someone simply leaving early in a huff.  People duck out of parties, in the company of people they like!  Why is this such a big deal?  And he's a logistical officer, not an intelligence or combat officer, this is not his bailiwick.

Third, if he does go all the way with John Smith, this rather complicates the job of a certain spy and he's probably dead.  Justin Xiang has only one gun.  Breaking poor Captain Roger Moltjoner's neck and then forcing Smith to do his bidding simplifies the matter greatly.  By turning back, Roger saved his own life.  He didn't know it, John didn't know it, but a bit character's life was saved by his desire to not miss out on the canapes.
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ohhh you hate it now? you will develop new hated and paranoia if you install roguetech mod
AI does not know defenition of mercy and will ask what is that...more than likely you will not survive 3 missions without going broke
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the Davions come in and suddenly they're redrawing your map and the Estates General no longer exists. At that point, the problems become genuine.

You can have trade and security benefits without stripping the people of their right to representation. By the time they started to actually set up the FC government and I found out the legislative body that put Katrina on the throne had no role in the new government, I'd probably think I got sold a bill of goods.

Outside of Military deployment zones when was the Map changed?
When was the Estates General disbanded?
If they got Katie on the Throne how did they have no power?
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First to sable I am aware the sides are low in armor but the idea of the tank is more of an upgrade kit replacing minimum parts.

This is the same reason that Alpha suggestion is not something I did the idea is we are taking an existing unit and within the constraints of the Chassis doing the best we can.
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So you're saying 4 would probably get them before 6, because of 4's higher loyalty rating?

Honestly, that was my read as well, I just wanted some outside thoughts on the matter.  :smilie_happy_thumbup:

Exactly, keep in mind that since I think 3090 the IV Legio and the Mortuori are the units that are closest to the Marian Industrial Nucleus and the IV was considered along with the II and the I Legio as the most loyal so it would be logical that the IV was prioritized between the IV and the VI Legio when receiving imported material and more so being a Clan.
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I didn't watch.  Not for any of the political garbage, just because I dislike the teams playing and thus didn't care.
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House Davion attacking House Steiner during SW1. They attacked Hesperus for...reasons (I think that Operation was called Operation Brass Ring)
Also House Davon vs House Steiner was a battle over a group of Marik produced Stingrays on New Earth during SW2 (from TRO 3039). Unfortunately for House Steiner despite their win it was for naught as diplomats arranged to give the fighters to House Marik
I think their was also a Davion raid against Marik space that netted House Davion the specs for a Marik fighter design (the Eagle) while they also sabotaged the production facility.
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I think the Dracs were responsible for nuking Helm (in the FWL) back in the day.
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