Author Topic: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth (Read 204402 times)

Charlie 6 · « **Reply #30 on:** 04 March 2018, 14:00:55 »

At first I thought, you're from the Bonney Dick, then I thought France until the I saw the "LHA". My first reaction caused me a "well, that's a salty joke 'round these parts," reaction.

chanman · « **Reply #31 on:** 05 March 2018, 04:12:31 »

I wonder how small you could make an aircraft carrier if you were interested in operating only bush planes. I guess it would depend on the plane in question, since I think some of the faster catamarans have a flank speed greater than the An-2's stall speed...

Nightlord01 · « **Reply #32 on:** 05 March 2018, 06:28:56 »

Quote from: chanman on 05 March 2018, 04:12:31

I wonder how small you could make an aircraft carrier if you were interested in operating only bush planes. I guess it would depend on the plane in question, since I think some of the faster catamarans have a flank speed greater than the An-2's stall speed...

That's a cool idea. :-) Use an enlarged Incat to give them a zero relative speed, trucking along at 45 kts, into a 30 kts wind.

Wrangler · « **Reply #33 on:** 05 March 2018, 07:12:25 »

exUSS Oriskany being turned into a reef.

DaveMac · « **Reply #34 on:** 05 March 2018, 11:21:27 »

Posted last night (3/3/18) to the Facebook page for R/V Petrel [Paul Allen's research vessel] ... "The crew is back onboard and we are onsite of our next project, USS Lexington CV-2."

For those with FB accounts, the direct link is here ...

https://www.facebook.com/rvpetrel/posts/1657094307659377

Dragon Cat · « **Reply #35 on:** 05 March 2018, 14:20:58 »

Dragon class

nerd · « **Reply #36 on:** 05 March 2018, 15:35:55 »

Quote from: chanman on 05 March 2018, 04:12:31

I wonder how small you could make an aircraft carrier if you were interested in operating only bush planes. I guess it would depend on the plane in question, since I think some of the faster catamarans have a flank speed greater than the An-2's stall speed...

Piper L-4's (Cubs with Army Green paint), flying off an LST. There was a trapeze rig over the side for recovery.

glitterboy2098 · « **Reply #37 on:** 05 March 2018, 16:33:09 »

well STOL capability is something that tends to be the basis of most carrier aircraft, at least for those not designed around catapults.
one of the reasons the Gripen has a proposed Carrier variant. it's base model already has fairly extreme STOL ability, sticking an arrestor hook and reinforced landing gear onto the design would not be too much of a change and would let it operate off skijump equipped ships. unfortunately there are a number of existing competitors for the same role.

DaveMac · « **Reply #38 on:** 05 March 2018, 17:44:29 »

Quote from: DaveMac on 05 March 2018, 11:21:27

Posted last night (3/3/18) to the Facebook page for R/V Petrel [Paul Allen's research vessel] ... "The crew is back onboard and we are onsite of our next project, USS Lexington CV-2."

For those with FB accounts, the direct link is here ...

https://www.facebook.com/rvpetrel/posts/1657094307659377

They found her 😁

Feenix74 · « **Reply #39 on:** 05 March 2018, 21:33:06 »

News article with some photos and video footage of the Lexington:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-06/uss-lexington-found-at-the-bottom-of-the-coral-sea/9517986

Wrangler · « **Reply #40 on:** 05 March 2018, 22:01:34 »

It's nice find her, let her crew rest in peace.

How deep is she? Wildcat's paint seems to look intact for the most part despite the age.

Kidd · « **Reply #41 on:** 05 March 2018, 23:01:44 »

Wow that is big!

Sharpnel · « **Reply #42 on:** 06 March 2018, 01:24:49 »

Quote from: Wrangler on 05 March 2018, 22:01:34

It's nice find her, let her crew rest in peace.

How deep is she? Wildcat's paint seems to look intact for the most part despite the age.

3000 meters deep or nearly 2 miles

worktroll · « **Reply #43 on:** 06 March 2018, 03:41:59 »

Rest in peace, Lady Lex. Amazing preservation.

DoctorMonkey · « **Reply #44 on:** 06 March 2018, 06:34:13 »

Rest in peace

Hopefully she's far enough down and away from things to be illegally salvaged, it sounds like she is the tomb for over 200 sailors (and presumably some marines)

Nightlord01 · « **Reply #45 on:** 06 March 2018, 06:59:15 »

Says it all.

Batman · « **Reply #46 on:** 06 March 2018, 19:50:14 »

I thought I might show you these two ships because I actually had the opportunity to work on them during my time as a civil servant. It was a great experience and the people I worked with are great too. Magnificent ships.

Liam's Ghost · « **Reply #47 on:** 06 March 2018, 22:26:02 »

A trio of USS Deweys

marauder648 · « **Reply #48 on:** 08 March 2018, 10:54:13 »

The Lexington class Battlecruiser and what it would be converted into.

marauder648 · « **Reply #49 on:** 08 March 2018, 10:56:26 »

HMS Furious.

sadlerbw · « **Reply #50 on:** 08 March 2018, 11:36:48 »

I'd be furious as well if someone took all my guns away and stuck a landing strip on my head!

JadeHellbringer · « **Reply #51 on:** 08 March 2018, 11:57:55 »

Quote from: marauder648 on 08 March 2018, 10:54:13

The Lexington class Battlecruiser and what it would be converted into.

I never noticed it before in that shot, but the tripod mast on the bridge structure is surprising- looks very much like those on the early-refit battleships (New York, etc.) and Augusta-class CAs. Huh. Who knew?

Makes sense though. If she was packing CA guns, why not homogenize the directors with the ships already doing that job?

Alexander Knight · « **Reply #52 on:** 08 March 2018, 12:51:42 »

She wasn't intended to pack CA guns, really. The concept for the Lexington-class was effectively a "primitive" Iowa-class, 16" guns and all.

Weirdo · « **Reply #53 on:** 08 March 2018, 13:24:43 »

I think he's talking about the final CV, or at least initial post-BC plans.

HobbesHurlbut · « **Reply #54 on:** 08 March 2018, 14:09:43 »

Quote from: Weirdo on 08 March 2018, 13:24:43

I think he's talking about the final CV, or at least initial post-BC plans.

This. Lexington CV with the initial 8" battery

Kidd · « **Reply #55 on:** 08 March 2018, 14:17:56 »

Finnish Navy Hamina-class fast attack craft

Armed with a 57mm gun, 8 Umkhonto SAMs and provision for 4 RBS-15 Mk.3 in place of the RHIBs at the back.

However recently the US is offering to replace the RBS-15s with Harpoon Block II+(ER). I am a little surprised, the 2 missiles seem to be more or less similar in (published) capability.

They are also building 4 corvettes to replace older ships. Possibly also armed with a 57mm (or 76mm) gun, the US has offered to equip the ships with 16 ESSM in Mk.41 VLS and Harpoon missiles.

Weirdo · « **Reply #56 on:** 08 March 2018, 14:29:49 »

That's a lotta hurt in notalotta package...

ColBosch · « **Reply #57 on:** 08 March 2018, 15:52:14 »

Quote from: Weirdo on 08 March 2018, 14:29:49

That's a lotta hurt in notalotta package...

The Finns do not ****** around.

kato · « **Reply #58 on:** 08 March 2018, 16:14:21 »

Quote from: Kidd on 08 March 2018, 14:17:56

However recently the US is offering to replace the RBS-15s with Harpoon Block II+(ER). I am a little surprised, the 2 missiles seem to be more or less similar in (published) capability.

The Block II+ ER version of Harpoon was specifically developed to allow the same range envelope (250 km unclassified), but does so at the cost of a lighter warhead - 70% the size of that of a RBS-15 MkIII. In addition - unlike RBS-15 - Harpoon in all land-attack variants, including SLAM, is somewhat unsuitable to high-intensity symmetric electronic warfare scenarios - something that Saab does point out while not pointing fingers at the "some competitors" they mention.

Boeing primarily tries to sell the new Harpoon on a cost advantage over its competitors due to being able to refurbish 30-year-old Block 1C for the upgrade while leveraging hardware borrowed from JDAM and SLAM.

The Eagle · « **Reply #59 on:** 08 March 2018, 17:05:33 »

Quote from: ColBosch on 08 March 2018, 15:52:14

The Finns do not ****** around.

The Winter War was a good reminder of this.