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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #930 on: 06 July 2019, 08:56:28 »




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blasting the "Miami Vice" soundtrack probably ruins the surprise.
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #931 on: 06 July 2019, 10:39:13 »
Pretty sure I saw that in the McHale's Navy movie, and at least three late-night shows in the 90s...
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #932 on: 06 July 2019, 11:11:22 »
blasting the "Miami Vice" soundtrack probably ruins the surprise.

No, it totally works.

They can't hear you coming over all the 80s music that somebody's playing.
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #933 on: 06 July 2019, 12:14:45 »
Masks the distinctive sound signature on sonar of the engines
You can always confuse them by playing other songs, perhaps something from HMS Pinafore
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #934 on: 06 July 2019, 12:39:44 »
One I found online looks cool
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #935 on: 06 July 2019, 14:52:35 »

You can always confuse them by playing other songs
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #936 on: 06 July 2019, 18:15:36 »
One I found online looks cool
Suddenly I want to really screw with sonar techs.  Get a really good sound system with a very heavily sound-insulated generator up on the deck away from the water, and pootle around pumping out a nice long loop of a diesel submarine's engine.
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #937 on: 06 July 2019, 19:18:35 »
Suddenly I want to really screw with sonar techs.  Get a really good sound system with a very heavily sound-insulated generator up on the deck away from the water, and pootle around pumping out a nice long loop of a diesel submarine's engine.
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #938 on: 06 July 2019, 23:10:02 »
Masks the distinctive sound signature on sonar of the engines
You can always confuse them by playing other songs, perhaps something from HMS Pinafore

How about The Pirates of Penzance?
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #939 on: 06 July 2019, 23:15:25 »
Yeah, but when you've got a three-master gliding around in the water to the sound of submarine diesels, that's the part where the sonar tech starts wondering where the other ship is. :D

That said, I wonder whether or not you could get a good copy of the sound of a torpedo tube flooding, door opening, and firing, for your underwater speakers...

Congratulations, it existed and was called MOSS.
Didn't MOSS also have the bubble generators to make a nice big water-air boundary to bounce active sonar off of?  Combine that with Prarie/Masker for your main ships, it probably did well.

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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #940 on: 07 July 2019, 12:07:51 »
Marauder, are those go-fast boats from Drug runners or they something else?  They certainty don't look military in the conventional sense.

For something completely different.

Take a train ride via Ferry Ship....

This is the English Train Ferry No1, in 1917.  This ship in the picture was in Harwick as part the Hawick Train Ferry service.  It used to cross the English Channel to Belgium before World War 2 came around.  Last ferrys were decommissioned in 1981.
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #941 on: 07 July 2019, 12:48:18 »
In Soviet Russia music plays you!


Suddenly I want to really screw with sonar techs.  Get a really good sound system with a very heavily sound-insulated generator up on the deck away from the water, and pootle around pumping out a nice long loop of a diesel submarine's engine.


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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #943 on: 09 July 2019, 15:57:47 »
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #944 on: 09 July 2019, 16:17:36 »

France's Rubis-Class Attack Submarine, FS Saphir, has been arrived to be decommissioned.  She first of her class of Nuclear Attack Submarines to be retired to make way for the new Suffren-Class Attack Boats.
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #945 on: 09 July 2019, 16:59:47 »
She's one of the older Western boats in commission, as the 688's of the same age (1984 commissioning) are rapidly being removed from service. I wonder what will happen to the reactor, as the French do not have a location like Idaho or Siberia to store old reactors.
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #946 on: 09 July 2019, 17:40:28 »
I wonder what will happen to the reactor, as the French do not have a location like Idaho or Siberia to store old reactors.
Actually they do. Homet.

Zone du Homet is a military installation that's part of Cherbourg harbour - next door to where DCNS/Naval Group constructs the French nuclear submarines. Homet was repurposed 20 years ago and now serves solely for the dismantling and temporary storage of nuclear components of submarines; they're currently storing the six reactor sections (full sections, 700 tons each) of the Redoubtable class SSBNs.

Dismantling and storage:



That is also why Saphir sailed to Cherbourg on her last cruise. Once she's decommissioned she'll be cut open at Homet, have the reactor pulled for storage and the remaining sections will then be welded together seaworthy (!) again to be moved to separate storage for the non-nuclear parts. The "surgery" takes around three months.

There's a long-term concept to take apart and dispose of the stored reactors ("Level III Dismantling") after a while "once a facility has been built for that" on site, at Homet.
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #947 on: 09 July 2019, 18:59:17 »
Can one be named the Succotash?  Just for the name alone.


France's Rubis-Class Attack Submarine, FS Saphir, has been arrived to be decommissioned.  She first of her class of Nuclear Attack Submarines to be retired to make way for the new Suffren-Class Attack Boats.

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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #948 on: 09 July 2019, 19:22:20 »
The six Barracudas (Suffren class) will be Suffren, Duguay-Trouin, Tourville, De Grasse, Rubis and Casabianca.

The names have been consistently used for ships of the French Navy since the 1780s - except for De Grasse, who only had a cruiser and a destroyer named after him so far. Rubis is the record-holder, with this being the 18th ship (and 4th submarine) of this name since 1648. It's also the only one of the above six names not derived from a 17th or 18th century admiral.

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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #949 on: 09 July 2019, 22:13:56 »
Can one be named the Succotash?  Just for the name alone.

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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #950 on: 10 July 2019, 11:26:40 »
Speaking of funny ship names, HMS Cockchafer.  Old British Gunship as part of the Insect Class Gunships.


I believe this naming practice has been retired....since ships not quite pictured was HMS Cricket, HMS Glowworm AND HMS Cicada..

She was armed originally, 2 × BL 6 inch Mk VII, 2 × 12 pdr. guns and 6 × .303 British Maxim guns in 1916, but she was rearmed with modern weapons in 1938.  Interesting design, very usual names her and classmates.

She her most notable actions was in occupied China in 1926, where a British merchant ships were being captured by a local warlord named General Yang in what was called the Wanhsien District.  The ship was part of squadron of British ships, and soldiers attempting get the ships back and stop the General.  They succeeded but there were causalities. 

It's interesting dig on the ship i look up randomly.  :)
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #952 on: 11 July 2019, 02:05:44 »
Those moments when you wish horror movies and the results of defiling graves were real...
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #954 on: 11 July 2019, 10:23:52 »
Those moments when you wish horror movies and the results of defiling graves were real...

Read the story . . . 100 times this . . .

But I am a history buff, and so sadly this is not a new thing where people tear up relics of the past . . . think of the Roman ruins that were 'mined' for structures in the Middle Ages.
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #955 on: 11 July 2019, 18:32:36 »
Not... not much I can say.

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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #956 on: 11 July 2019, 20:56:31 »
Read the story . . . 100 times this . . .

But I am a history buff, and so sadly this is not a new thing where people tear up relics of the past . . . think of the Roman ruins that were 'mined' for structures in the Middle Ages.
I hope they capture the thugs.  This problem of finding all these wrecks.  There jerks out there will use data to abuse it.
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #957 on: 11 July 2019, 22:57:19 »
But I am a history buff, and so sadly this is not a new thing where people tear up relics of the past . . . think of the Roman ruins that were 'mined' for structures in the Middle Ages.
To be fair, the Roman ruins weren't any more interesting to the medieval folks than the old, run down city block that got leveled for redevelopment.  Defiling war graves for profit in the 21st century?  Satan's digging an exploratory trench for something under Cocytus.  (And likely making a special floaty chair for me in Styx)
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #958 on: 12 July 2019, 03:24:40 »
To be fair, the Roman ruins weren't any more interesting to the medieval folks than the old, run down city block that got leveled for redevelopment.
You historically don't need that much time difference. We have medieval monasteries around here that were reused as stone quarries for other construction within 50 years of no longer being used. And those are gravesites.

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« Reply #959 on: 12 July 2019, 03:37:32 »
To be fair, the Roman ruins weren't any more interesting to the medieval folks than the old, run down city block that got leveled for redevelopment.  Defiling war graves for profit in the 21st century?  Satan's digging an exploratory trench for something under Cocytus.  (And likely making a special floaty chair for me in Styx)

Ok, you're judging by a false metric, this isn't being done by mega corporations bent of defiling war graves, it's being done by small communities with little in the way of money and resources except unemployed people.

South East Asia is a very poor region of the world, while I can never agree with defiling war graves, I can't judge people harshly for using all available resources just to provide the necessities of life.