List of older Minis that have never been made?

[mike19k]

It's from TR3026, IIRC, but damned if I know if it can be done under the current rules.

It can not anymore, but if I remember correctly how it used to work was that the total weight that could be carried was the cargo and total tonage of the vehicle itself, it was fluffed as most of the mech is hanging outside of the transport.

[Cache]

It can not anymore, but if I remember correctly how it used to work was that the total weight that could be carried was the cargo and total tonage of the vehicle itself, it was fluffed as most of the mech is hanging outside of the transport.

"The forward armored section of the aircraft can take up to 20 tons, while another 50 tons can be carried in an unprotected bay.  The bulkhead separating the two areas is removable, to allow the aircraft to carry loads that cannot be stored conveniently in one bay or the other."

It goes on to describes how 'Mechs are loaded.

Would the unarmored cargo section be open-air or sheathed in a thin skin?  Not that it matters now.

[Weirdo]

Open air. It's talking about external cargo strapped to the top, or carried in nets/slings. Trying to use a Planetlifter to carry a Warhammer this way is about as wise as strapping an Abrams to the top of a C-5 Galaxy and expecting it to fly.

[Bartholomew bartholomew]

In the original 3026 TRO fluff it would all be inside. The whole bottom of the craft could be disconnected and reconnect. Basically it said it would drop the lower section and roll forward. The mech would be laid down and the it would roll back and reconnect. And that an experienced crew could do it in under 15 minutes.

Dunno about how it would be now. Would still like the mini for it. Maybe it could get fan funded one day.

[ColBosch]

Open air. It's talking about external cargo strapped to the top, or carried in nets/slings. Trying to use a Planetlifter to carry a Warhammer this way is about as wise as strapping an Abrams to the top of a C-5 Galaxy and expecting it to fly.

Oh my God can we do this please please please?

[Weirdo]

Tell you what. You provide the Galaxy and the Abrams, and I'll...let you provide the straps. O0

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

That sounds like a GI Joe vehicle.

[ColBosch]

And before anyone complains, NO, IWM has never produced a miniature of an Abrams riding a Galaxy. So there.

But back on topic, would it be out of place to ask for new sculpts of the formerly-Unseen Ost series?

[Bartholomew bartholomew]

They just released the new ostwar. And the new ostscout and ostol are both superior to the old unseens in my book.

[ColBosch]

They just released the new ostwar. And the new ostscout and ostol are both superior to the old unseens in my book.

The Ostwar was never Unseen, so it doesn't count. And I fully agree that the Reseen art and miniatures are better. I've got an old Ostsol, and it's shit. I mean, it really looks like a lead poop with legs. But this would be a chance to polish those old turds, so to speak.

[GRUD]

But back on topic, would it be out of place to ask for new sculpts of the formerly-Unseen Ost series?

Considering the Topic of this thread is "List of older Minis that have never been made?", I'd have to say "Yes, that would be out of place."   Maybe wait until the next Fan Funding 2.0 Suggestion thread starts up, and post that there?   ???

Personally, I'm Fine with ALL the Unseen minis, as well as Most of the Reseen.  The only Reseen mini I absolutely HATE is the Reseen Behemoth/Stone Rhino.   :P  I don't fault the sculptor for staying true to the art though.  The mini is so FUGLY I GAVE AWAY the one I bought my mistake.   :P  I'm not that crazy about the Reseen Valkyrie (though again, it's true to the art), but it's not that bad looking.  It's simply NOT a Valkyrie to me.  I still prefer the Unseen over the Reseen in ALL cases.   O0


But back On Topic, this thread is about designs that have NEVER had a mini, EVER.  There are no Unseen, Reseen or 2nd/3rd/4th Resculpts of any of the ones mentioned on the first page.  Can we Please stick to discussing any of those, or any others that have been left out?

[speck]

And before anyone complains, NO, IWM has never produced a miniature of an Abrams riding a Galaxy. So there.

But back on topic, would it be out of place to ask for new sculpts of the formerly-Unseen Ost series?

Those old ost mechs still in the can't be made category.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

Why not?

[Col.Hengist]

I thought they were judged to not be rip offs of the zendaedi pods, or is it a matter of no good molds? Personally I don't really like the old ostsol, but the new one isn't better. I like both ostrocs.

[worktroll]

Yes, the Osts were returned to the seeable. But Ralm Partha destroyed the Unseen moulds at the time.

Yes, some of their overseas agents may not have been quite so principled, but those moulds have deteriorated over time, as all moulds do.

There appears to be no appetite in IWM at the moment for resculpting old-style Osts. Individual members' desires notwithstanding, it appears the potential market doesn't justify the expense.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

And here I was expecting some sort of issue due to an arcane legal hurdle.

[Col.Hengist]

Thanks WT. That's what I thought.

[DaveMac]

Griffin IIC?

I know the original image will be considered unseen but perhaps after a tweek or two...

[GRUD]

I hadn't even thought of that one.  Considering the fact that it IS an Unseen design though, even now that you've brought it up I Personally don't think it should be added to the list.  Since we have a Reseen sculpt already, "after a tweek or two..." with the Unseen just gets us another Reseen sculpt.  Even though it's only an Unseen in order to avoid any problems later, unless CGL or TOPPS reverses their decision on the "Victor Musial Industries" Unseen, I don't see us ever getting an Official Unseen Griffin IIC mini.   :'(


This List is for those designs that at least have a Chance of being made into a mini someday, however slim or remote it might be.   :)

[krazzyharry]

TRO 3026 Designs (Aero, Land and VTOL)
Ferret Light Scout VTOL
Guardian Conventional Fighter
Planetlifter Air Transport
Engineering Vehicle

TRO 3039 Designs (Aero)
Angel Light Strike Fighter
Boeing Jump Bomber
Guardian Fighter
Defender Medium Strike Fighter
Meteor Strike Fighter
Planetlifter Air Transport

These, YES.  I have been using a lot of conventional fighters as air-to-ground support of late on mekHQ/MM and I am absolutely loving it.  Dropping bombs and doing strafing runs on that one mech that is worrisome helps a lot.  I have used a OH-58 scout helicopter as a stand in for the Ferret in the past but it might be nice to have one.  Planetlifter....can anyone say paratroopers

CityTech Rulebook (1st Ed.)
Falcon Hovercraft
Wheeled Scout

MechWarrior RPG Rulebook (1st Ed.)
Air Car (Hover)
Command Van (Wheeled)
Ground Car (Wheeled)
Heavy Transport (Wheeled)
Jeep (Wheeled)
Jet Sled (Tracked)
Skimmer (Hover)
Speeder (Wheeled)

Would be nice for civilians on the battlefield/targets/etc but I tend to use military miniatures for that role.  I gues it would depend on the scale...

[beachhead1985]

Heck, we need TROs for some of these!

Like the Hood Cruiser from combat equipment.

[Cazaril]

As far as I know, the only thing from TRO 3025 that hasn't been made by RP/IWM is the Repair Facility.  I've seen a few Unofficial " 'Mech Repair Bays", though they tend to be made of resin and a bit more expensive than I want to pay for one.  The TRO description says there is no "Standard" for them though, so any/all of them could be considered to be "Correct" I guess. 

'Mech Repair Bays and 'Mech Hangers have always been the same to me. You need a spot for each 'Mech in your unit, and most units are pretty big. I've seen resin ones done by (I can't remember his company's name, but he is active here on the forum), and they look very nice. And if I just needed the four hangers that his provides I'd be all in, but I need more than that. Actually, a lot more (I guess if I just wanted to use it as a third party 'Mech Repair Bay, like say the old Eire MechWorks before Insta-Tech waved it's magic wand and gave back unlimited technology to the BattleTech Universe, it would work). The old Revell made Robotech ones are nice, but they are OOP and can be just as expensive. What we need it is a cheap way to mass produce the hangers, and ideally have them be connected and expandable. That doesn't leave a lot of options, even when just discussing material cost...

Is anyone familiar with Fat Dragon Games? They do cardstock terrain, mainly for Fantasy miniatures, although they do have a card stock Lost Reich mecha line. You print the product off at home on your printer and assemble as needed. One of their main produces is used to build dungeons and dungeon corridors, which means the stuff is interlocking (but not in a way that can't be undone) and expandable. They already have an E-Z Future set (in their Sci-Fi section) that could be used for a Castle Brian, but it is really scaled for 15mm figures, so some stuff doesn't look right (like control panels with buttons that would take a 'Mech to push). FDG used to have a terrain set called MechBattle City (office towers, power generators, storage tanks, communications dishes and a few other things along with roads that you could turn grid lines on and off), but it was discontinued, I'll assume for lack of interest. I think this would be perfect for building a 'Mech Bay out of. Want two slots, build just two. Need 200, well you might need another pack of paper and an extra glue stick, but sure, you could make the building as big as you'd like. Plus, FDG likes to put all kinds of accessories in their sets, so gantry cranes and other stuff like that isn't out of the question.

I've asked him about doing something like this, and he doesn't seem against it. Where I see the problem at is in sales. If MechBattle City was discontinued for lack of sales (and why discontinue a PDF file!?), then this would be a niche product. I think he would have to know there was some interest before he would even consider a KickStarter for it.

Granted, this wouldn't be a RP/IWM metals product. In fact, it wouldn't even be an officially sanctioned product. But what it would do is give us not just an affordable means of building a large 'Mech Bay, but also an easy one (because it wouldn't need to be painted, just put together).

Anyway... It is just an idea

Caz

[mike19k]

'Mech Repair Bays and 'Mech Hangers have always been the same to me. You need a spot for each 'Mech in your unit, and most units are pretty big. I've seen resin ones done by (I can't remember his company's name, but he is active here on the forum), and they look very nice. And if I just needed the four hangers that his provides I'd be all in, but I need more than that. Actually, a lot more (I guess if I just wanted to use it as a third party 'Mech Repair Bay, like say the old Eire MechWorks before Insta-Tech waved it's magic wand and gave back unlimited technology to the BattleTech Universe, it would work). The old Revell made Robotech ones are nice, but they are OOP and can be just as expensive. What we need it is a cheap way to mass produce the hangers, and ideally have them be connected and expandable. That doesn't leave a lot of options, even when just discussing material cost...

Is anyone familiar with Fat Dragon Games? They do cardstock terrain, mainly for Fantasy miniatures, although they do have a card stock Lost Reich mecha line. You print the product off at home on your printer and assemble as needed. One of their main produces is used to build dungeons and dungeon corridors, which means the stuff is interlocking (but not in a way that can't be undone) and expandable. They already have an E-Z Future set (in their Sci-Fi section) that could be used for a Castle Brian, but it is really scaled for 15mm figures, so some stuff doesn't look right (like control panels with buttons that would take a 'Mech to push). FDG used to have a terrain set called MechBattle City (office towers, power generators, storage tanks, communications dishes and a few other things along with roads that you could turn grid lines on and off), but it was discontinued, I'll assume for lack of interest. I think this would be perfect for building a 'Mech Bay out of. Want two slots, build just two. Need 200, well you might need another pack of paper and an extra glue stick, but sure, you could make the building as big as you'd like. Plus, FDG likes to put all kinds of accessories in their sets, so gantry cranes and other stuff like that isn't out of the question.

I've asked him about doing something like this, and he doesn't seem against it. Where I see the problem at is in sales. If MechBattle City was discontinued for lack of sales (and why discontinue a PDF file!?), then this would be a niche product. I think he would have to know there was some interest before he would even consider a KickStarter for it.

Granted, this wouldn't be a RP/IWM metals product. In fact, it wouldn't even be an officially sanctioned product. But what it would do is give us not just an affordable means of building a large 'Mech Bay, but also an easy one (because it wouldn't need to be painted, just put together).

Anyway... It is just an idea

Caz

We have a guy in my local group who has been working on some, they are still a work in progress but look nice. Now once all the tweaking is done have to see if he is willing/able to sell them and what they would cost.

[Wotan]

@Cazaril:
Are you refering to xmarx mechhangar ? That is really big and true Mechscale. So for most hexmap games it can't be used. But yes, it is impressive.

FPG MechBattle City has faded as they announced to work on an improved pack. Sadly that is Long time back and no new pack was released. I like the buildings in the old pack, but a new one would be awesome.
Maybe more interesting than the old buildings are the roads that come along with the MechBattle City. You can print them with hexes or without. So you can easily build your own City streets for any type of gameplay.

[firebee]

It would also be cool to see minis for the designs in MECH and Mechforce Quarterly that were never canonized.

[Luciora]

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