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BattleTech Miniatures and Terrain => Iron Wind Metals News and Announcements => Fan Financing 2.0 => Topic started by: speck on 20 April 2015, 18:34:04
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This is the Funding thread for Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt (plus LB20 Alt Arm) and it needs $900.00 to be Funded.
Current Funds total $900.00 and has been funded
(https://www.ironwindmetals.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_HGN_zpsonslp0ib.jpg)
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OK, I'm gonna start this off with a question: what do people actually want from this resculpt?
Here's a good, multi-angle example of what the current mini looks like: http://camospecs.com/Miniature.asp?ID=4663
So using canon art references, what would you like changed? I think it's important to discuss this before going gung-ho towards financing it.
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OK, I'm gonna start this off with a question: what do people actually want from this resculpt?
Here's a good, multi-angle example of what the current mini looks like: http://camospecs.com/Miniature.asp?ID=4663
So using canon art references, what would you like changed? I think it's important to discuss this before going gung-ho towards financing it.
A set of orthos has already been created based on the various Highlander art available. I will check to see if they are done and can be posted. Will update my first post when I have the okay.
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Thanks Speck. I'm mostly asking because I think the current sculpt does a pretty good job of being faithful to the art we have...so I am curious to know what any potential changes might be.
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FWIW, I agree with GreekFire, I have no major issues with the current sculpt and it is on my current wishlist of minis to buy. I acknowledge and accept that others may have a different opinion on the current sculpt and feel strong enough about it that they are willing to put forward their money to see a resculpt made to improve it.
I am not planning to contribute to this funding effort at this point in time.
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I intend on contributing, However if there is an orthos already. I would like to see it. Thanks.
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Orthos posted to first post
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Out of curiosity, does the mini need to look precisely like the TRO art? Most of the Star League 'Mechs in the 3050 Upgrade book are just drawn to look like the miniatures, rather than the other way around. I feel that limits what can be done.
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Out of curiosity, does the mini need to look precisely like the TRO art? Most of the Star League 'Mechs in the 3050 Upgrade book are just drawn to look like the miniatures, rather than the other way around. I feel that limits what can be done.
Thats why the orthos pulled from a variety of Highlander art. Plus input from everyone in the QCC forum and CGL as well.
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FWIW, I agree with GreekFire, I have no major issues with the current sculpt and it is on my current wishlist of minis to buy. I acknowledge and accept that others may have a different opinion on the current sculpt and feel strong enough about it that they are willing to put forward their money to see a resculpt made to improve it.
I am not planning to contribute to this funding effort at this point in time.
I am in the same boat, already have three of the current ones, think that they look good.
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Well, I think the legs need a little more length, they look about the same height as the bent pose I always see illustrated. But the side shows standing straight. And the gauss needs a bit more length as well. But I said I would help and am in for $25 for now.
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Mini's too small. The Highlander IIC is a little lanky with it, but looks great. The legs of the mini are short and stumpy; the body chubby; the right arm gauss rifle is a small beehive stuck on the wrist.
Yes, it matches the old TRO art, but consider the cover of the Northwind Highlanders supplement:
(http://www.sarna.net/wiki/File:Northwind_Highlanders_(scenario_pack).jpg)
The current mini, with straight legs, is about as tall in proportion as the toilet-squatting Highlanders in the cover. This suggests longer legs, and longer arms (increased for both upper & lower arm sections) would be ideal.
I've made a few modifications using that high-tech tool, MS-Paint, to give some suggestions about what I mean, see attached. Changes are:
1) Legs lengthened by 20% in side view
2) Legs lengthened by 20%, and both legs and hips thinned by 10%. The leg thickness probably isn't an issue, but the hip section looks a bit big.
3) Inserted a second "upper arm" segment to each arm
4) Pulled the gun-shield on the right arm out 20% to extend past the muzzle
My 2 cbills worth.
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The original mini is too small, the proportions are wrong.
1) Legs lengthened by 20% in side view
2) Legs lengthened by 20%, and both legs and hips thinned by 10%. The leg thickness probably isn't an issue, but the hip section looks a bit big.
3) Inserted a second "upper arm" segment to each arm
4) Pulled the gun-shield on the right arm out 20% to extend past the muzzle
Hmm, I see where you are coming from, but the only change I can get behind is 4) (and maybe thinning the hips - not the legs - by 10%). The other changes make the Highlander too thin and tall. It is not the tallest 90t Mech out there, but a rather massive one. It has a stocky, barrel chested build. The orthos in the first post beautifully represent what I am looking for in a Highlander, but I may be biased here ... ;)
Interestingly enough the orthos don't match the TRO art, but are rather an amalgam of all existing artworks. Including the Northwind Highlanders cover.
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I can definitely get behind extending the gun shield and thinning the hips/pelvis. I'm fine with the arms and legs as they are.
I'll put up $50 to see it done.
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I like Speck's ortho as far as the wider hips and thicker legs are concerned. This is a 90 ton assault 'mech and the legs and hips should look like they are able to that weight while under fire. Also, the legs should look like they can survive repeat Highlander Burials.
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I like Speck's ortho as far as the wider hips and thicker legs are concerned. This is a 90 ton assault 'mech and the legs and hips should look like they are able to that weight while under fire. Also, the legs should look like they can survive repeat Highlander Burials.
I wish I could take credit for orthos, but I can't draw for crap. It was IAMCLANWOLF who created them and does a awesome job at it.
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Oddly enough, I like the idea of limbs that are both reinforced and bulky, AND longer. The original disappointed me not because it was stocky, but because it went past stocky, all the way to dumpy. My ideal would be more along the lines of the HGN IIC, but just a *bit* bulkier in the limbs.
Oh, and put me down for $25. :)
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I kind of like the look of the orthos posted, but which artwork shows a Highlander with a full 20-tube LRM launcher? It looks cool, but more like the IIC (in that respect) than the Star League version.
I also agree that the gun shield "prongs" should extend beyond the gauss barrel.
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I'm in for $50 on this one.
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I kind of like the look of the orthos posted, but which artwork shows a Highlander with a full 20-tube LRM launcher? It looks cool, but more like the IIC (in that respect) than the Star League version.
I'm counting 20 tubes in IAMCLANWOLF's orthos - left torso. ???
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I believe he is trying to point out that this is the first time we have seen artwork showing a 20 tube launcher. Usually it is a 10 tube launcher that must fire rapidly like the Atlas LRM launcher.
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Given the obsession with MechWarrior Online, I think those proportions (not the design specifics, but the proportions) would be most appropriate for any future sculpts. The idea is to sell, right? That version is more squat and widened; it's also got art that people are raving about, as opposed to critiquing. In the end, that's the set of proportions people would be most-happy with. That matches what's in the first post pretty well, I think.
(https://atlashunters.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/highlander-blackstone-highlanders_by-ironhawk.jpg?w=549&h=807)
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MWO art cannot be used for this endeavor. They're sticking to canon art only.
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Just to be clear, would this nre sculpt be replacing the old one entirely? I happen to quite like the old one.
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No, not a replacer. There are many with more than one scuplt. I like worktrolls orthos better. This should be a bit taller. I have a IIc and it is still shorter than an atlas. Any shorter and it would be too stumpy. Which is one of the things that turn me off of the original sculpt. I think that the legs being bulky is fine. maybe thin the hips a bit. But the longer legs look right to me.
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MWO art cannot be used for this endeavor. They're sticking to canon art only.
That's why I emphasized what I emphasized. :) I was talking about the proportions only: A thick, squat torso with over-emphasized, wide features. Just tends to make it stand out instead of looking round and bulbous.
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I believe he is trying to point out that this is the first time we have seen artwork showing a 20 tube launcher. Usually it is a 10 tube launcher that must fire rapidly like the Atlas LRM launcher.
Quite so. There is some variance in canon art for the Highlander's torso, but it never seems to have a full 20-tube launcher visible.
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I'll be honest: As long as the rest of the mini looks good, I don't much care how many LRM holes there are. 2, 5, 10, 20...any of those works for me. O0
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To get people back on track, I count 4 backers for a grand total of $150. $650 more to go.
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put me down for $40
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I'll put in $200
I like the current orthos
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NOOOOOO.... you will ruin me!! Count with me for 100$
Many thanks for the chance. It is a dream come true. I love the ortos, but I would love even more a better, less goofy looking gauss rifle. An alternative arm for a variant, the Lyran one with LBX20, would be great and would solve the problem.
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An alternative arm for a variant, the Lyran one with LBX20, would be great and would solve the problem.
I'd LOVE to do an alternate included arm so long as Mr. Behrle and Mike are kosher with it... [watch]
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I can do it for say an extra $100, just add it to the total for this Mech and Bob's yer Uncle. Orthos necessary for this of course.
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Orthos necessary for this of course.
Done.
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If it means variant parts then I'll kick in the extra $100.
That puts me at $300 total.
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Wow, nice one, Klat!... O0
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I am in for
$50 $60. Makes the TS_Hawk's $40 pledge into an even number :) .
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I'll go in for $75 here.
Heavyguard
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Updated first post with the extra 100 for LB20 arm, I got a current total of $725, can someone double check my math.
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Unless my calculator went weird, I have 875?
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725, But funded Speck?
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725, But funded Speck?
Fixed that, did not remove it when I copied from Rifleman thread.
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(https://www.ironwindmetals.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_HGN_zpsonslp0ib.jpg)
I kind of like the look of the orthos posted, but which artwork shows a Highlander with a full 20-tube LRM launcher?
None that I can recall. There should be 10 tubes and the top of the launcher panel should be flush with the top of the boxy CT.
To add to that...
- The SRM6 tubes on the left arm should be in a straight line and the launcher should be squared off on the ends.
- Right torso MLs are in the wrong place. They should be in the upper two of the three panels that fan out on the right side torso.
- Center torso box is too wide, causing ML location problem above.
- There is extra detail on top of the upper legs/hips that doesn't show up in any TRO artwork.
- The inner, upper legs/hips curve downward. TRO artwork does not reflect this (3025 revised excluded because it is so different from everything else). They're a straight upward slant from outside to inside.
- Head appears too squat and side armor panels taper backward when they should be straight up and down (perpendicular to top of head).
- The neck should stand on top of the left, right, and center torsos. This is partially the cause of the too-squat head.
(http://www.sarna.net/wiki/images/b/bf/3050U_Highlander.jpg)
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I like the ortho version better.
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I'd be fine with throwing in $50, since I did vote for the Highlander to be resculpted. However, I really don't want the orthos to be changed to reflect the TRO artwork that Cache posted, as again, it's basically just the old miniature translated into art. It would defeat the purpose of this funding.
The third sculpt of the Atlas doesn't really mirror the 3025/50 art; I don't see why the Highlander has to.
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I like the ortho version better.
This is my feeling as well.
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Lyran_Rainboom is 100% correct here. All Highlander art was taken into account to produce orthos/a resculpt akin to the latest Drew Williams Atlas. If you like the above art, then I don't see why you would be unhappy with the current miniature. ALL details from ALL Highlander images were referenced to produce what was considered by the QC team (with Ray and Brent art directing) to be the most appropriate for a resculpt.
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My main request is that the new sculpt be posable. There really isn't much you can do to a current Highlander to make it look like it's doing anything other than slowly trudging forward without doing some SERIOUS cutting. Ideally, those who like the trudge can assemble theirs in such a manner, while those who like more action-y poses will be able to go for that as well.
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I'd love for it to be posable as well.
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That looks easy with that orthos. It almost looks like the elbows and knees go together like a Doloires elbow does.
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I'd love for it to be posable as well.
I am pretty sure if will be like a lot of the recent minis that have multi part legs and such.
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I am pretty sure if will be like a lot of the recent minis that have multi part legs and such.
Alright, cool. I'll throw in $50 for sure, then.
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I am pretty sure if will be like a lot of the recent minis that have multi part legs and such.
Yes, please. :)
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Are there any other variants that would require only minor changes such as a different arm or some such?
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Are there any other variants that would require only minor changes such as a different arm or some such?
A left arm with 4 tubes instead of six is all you'd need for an HGN-736, though admittedly a standard arm and some material to fill the excess holes would do the same thing.
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Positively poseable! I'm sculpting all of my Mechs that way these days. :D
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A left arm with 4 tubes instead of six is all you'd need for an HGN-736, though admittedly a standard arm and some material to fill the excess holes would do the same thing.
I don't think that would be a difficult modification for most folks. I think I'm good with the 734 and 733C.
TBH the 733C is going to be one of my go to units for SW era play. The timing couldn't be better either; I'm going to propose a SW campaign for my Alpha Strike group. Sure it'll be a bit before this mini becomes available but I think it will take me a bit to get the campaign going.
Between this and the Flashman the Lyrans should be looking good.
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I almost put some into this one but I'm waiting for the Flashman. I'll be picking up this guy though. If it looks anything remotely like the orthos I'll be super happy (and the possibility will be very very welcome)
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Put me down for $25.
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Updated first post with current total of $850.
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If the person in charge of this can wait till the 8th of May for my payment I will pledge the remaining $50 to get it funded and that will make my total pledge $90
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If the person in charge of this can wait till the 8th of May for my payment I will pledge the remaining $50 to get it funded and that will make my total pledge $90
Don't think we have a lead contact for this one yet.
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I volunteer Feenix for it. I would step forward to do it but I have way too much on my plate at this time.
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Thanks TS_Hawk for noting my decision not to contribute to the funding of this resculpt and then volunteering me to lead anyway . . . I now know how Ulric Kerensky felt on his election to ilKhan :D
Following some correspondence with B-3, confirm "I have the Lead".
Highlander Re-sculpt Fundicators - "heads-up" as I am Australia-based therefore there will be some changes to the arrangements to collecting the monies. More details later but basically the arrangements will be designed to minimise the fees that we would have to pay to Paypal and thus reduce our contribution to the ebay/Paypal executive jet.
I will aim to do have the admin details and PMs to the Fundicators out this evening (AEST, Australian Eastern Standard Time, which is GMT+10). Now I have to go toddler-wrangling for the day, so my wife can get her university assignment finished.
In the meantime I leave you with this to keep you entertained:
Highlander trailer (https://youtu.be/omOZyLmNMJs)
Regards,
Feenix
Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt Lead Fundicator
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$50 from me to get this baby rolling.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
By my calculation the Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt is funded.
I have the following Fundicators:
Bartholomew bartholomew - $25 (paid)
D.Jensen - $50 (paid)
Weirdo - $25 (paid)
MidfieldMarauder - $50 (paid)
TS_Hawk - $40 + $50 (paid)
Klat - $200 + $100 (for the HGN-734 variant arm with the LB-20X AC in place of the Gauss Rifle) (paid)
God and Davion - $100 (paid)
Spaceman - $60 (paid)
Heavyguard - $75 (paid)
Lyran_Rainboom - $50 (paid)
faithless - $25 (paid)
Fletch - $50 (paid)
which gives us a total of $900.
EDIT - fixed details of the HGN-734 variant arm, payment status updated.
EDIT - all payments have been sent to B-3
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Ladies and getlemen,
Please send your pledges directly to B-3 via PayPal, I will send a PM to each of you with B-3's Paypal account details and the amount of your pledge. To send your money, use the "Send money to friends and family" option when logged into PayPal. In the comments, please add your BT forum username followed by "IWM Fan Finance (Highlander Resculpt)". This will assist B-3 and I keep track of payments made.
Once you have done this, please PM me your names and email addresses. I will then on-forward these to speck at IWM, who will email you your IWM webstore credit voucher.
The reason for this change in the normal process is because Paypal now charge a percentage fee (between 0.5-3.3% depending on the country) for using the "Send money to friends and family" to send money overseas. As I am Australia-based, you would get charged a fee for sending your money overseas to me and then I will charged for the privilege of sending the money overseas back to B-3. So to cut out the middle-man (me) and so that we do not collectively fund the ebay (as the owners of Paypal) Christmas bonuses and executive jet, I have made arrangements with B-3 for you to send your monies directly to him via Paypal.
If you are unable to fulfill your pledge because Marsellus Wallace wants his money back with interest or if your pledge payment will be delayed because you had a big weekend in Vegas, have a hangover and lost your wallet, please do not hesitate to PM me. This will allow me to keep everybody informed of our progress so that your fellow Fundicators are not left in a vacuum wondering why everything has gone quiet and start to worry that B-3 and/or I have disappeared to the Caymen Islands with the money.
"Fundicators, rollout."
Regards,
Feenix74
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PMs with B-3's Paypal account details and the pledge amount sent to each Fundicator.
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Dones! :D
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Done
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Cheers and thanks gentlemen O0
Payment status updated in the post above.
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Um Fee technically its $950 with Fletch so if I drop the $50 that I was pledging to make it the $900 thanks to Fletch then I can just do the $40 today and no need to wait :) And we are still funded at $900 :)
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Payment sent.
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The original mini is too small, the proportions are wrong.
Is this new sculpt going to be taller than the old mini?
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49mm unless the QCC decides differently.
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49mm sounds good. That is as tall as the IIc. So it won't be a midget anymore. Thanks
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Still working on final scaling and the additional arm, not sold on 49mm just yet (it might need to be a tad taller).
Super happy to see this one get funded!! I've piloted the HGN-732 in more TT games than any other mech (including Clan chassis).
Second place goes to the Highlander IIC. Can't wait to see what Mr. Behrle does with this guy! Thanks all.
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I will have my part of the funding sent by no later than Friday May 1. I'll probably have a chance to send it sooner but that's the worst case scenario.
Sorry for the delay.
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Payment status updated.
Um Fee technically its $950 with Fletch so if I drop the $50 that I was pledging to make it the $900 thanks to Fletch then I can just do the $40 today and no need to wait :) And we are still funded at $900 :)
My calculations have us at $900 including your extra $50. You are welcome to double check my calculations or trawl through the thread to identify any pledges that I may have missed. Alternatively, if we get a late additional Fundicator then we can always drop back your extra $50.
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Done!
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Payment status updated.
My calculations have us at $900 including your extra $50. You are welcome to double check my calculations or trawl through the thread to identify any pledges that I may have missed. Alternatively, if we get a late additional Fundicator then we can always drop back your extra $50.
Well I have always sucked at math. Will get the payment in on the 8th :)
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Sent
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Cheers and thanks D.Jensen.
A quick update, all Fundicators have reported in. We are still awaiting funds transfer from a handful but that is all undercontrol, at current forecast we should be funded in two weeks time.
Thank you all for your assistance in making this a smooth and seamless process so far.
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Payment sent!
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And with Spaceman's money coming in we are over half way. Thanks gentlemen O0
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Sent! O0
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Cheers and thanks Weirdo.
"If one of those bottles should happen to fall, 2 bottles of beer on the wall.
2 bottles of beer on the wall, 2 bottles of beer . . ." ;)
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Cheers and thanks Weirdo.
"If one of those bottles should happen to fall, 2 bottles of beer on the wall.
2 bottles of beer on the wall, 2 bottles of beer . . ." ;)
I should have mine in around 18:00 hrs. PST today.
Then I'm going to have a bottle of beer.
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Payment sent
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Cheers and thanks Klat. That takes us to 90% of fundications sent.
"If one of those bottles should happen to fall, 1 bottle of beer on the wall.
1 bottle of beer on the wall, 1 bottle of beer . . ." ;)
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I take it you are not watching the Wiggles. :-X
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Not at the moment, the girls are in bed.
Current favourites for the girls are the Octanauts, Peppa Pig and Tree Fu Tom :D
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Ladies and gentlemen,
I am pleased to announce that all funds for the Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt have been sent to B-3. So this Fundication Mission is all systems go!
Fundicators - I will PM speck with your details when I get home from work tonight. Speck with then arrange for your IWM webstore credit to be emailed to the email address that you have provided. Thank you everybody for a smooth and trouble-free fundication effort.
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And it was my pleasure in volunteering you for it :) After all that is what friends are for :P
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Thanks TS, with Kuritan friends like you who needs Wobbies :D
Update to all - one of the payments seems to have disappeared in The Matrix and I am working with B-3 and the fundicator to track it down. I will advise once this has been resolved. In the meantime I believe that B-3 has already started work on the Highlander sculpt.
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I'll pledge the last 50
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"Negative Ghostrider the pattern is full."
Beachhead - I believe we are fully pledged, just waiting on confirmation from B-3 that he has received the final monies that took the scenic route through The Matrix. However, if somebody comes up with another variant arm/leg that needs to be added then you have the first $50 pledged towards it if you want.
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Hey...if it can be done...how about the Highlander HGN-Colleen? I know it's a "specific" design, and normally not included in a standard blister, but it's a really good one.
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What would that one need?
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looking at it. Two arms. Just ignoring the tube difference in missile launchers. Otherwise it would be its own sculpt.
Edit, scratch that. One PPC arm.
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You'd need an ER PPC Right Arm, and if possible, some sort of add on cover converting the standard sculpts LRM over to dual LRM 15's. All depends on how creative the sculptor can be...I'm sure it could be done.
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The final fundication (for the Highander HGN-732 Resculpt plus the LB20-X variant arm) has been received in good order by B-3.
I will PM speck tonight with all the fundicator details for him to issue the IWM webstore credit vouchers, back to the toddler-wrangling for the rest of the day for me.
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I assume when people post LB-20X they mean AC-20?
Just to be sure; the variant arm is for the HGN-733C with an AC-20. Not the HGN-734 with the LB-20X, additional SRM6 and ERLL in place of the LRM20. Is this correct?
I know this seems nitpicky but I just want to know what we're getting. In all honesty if the HGN-734 is possible I'd love to make that happen but I'd think it would take a lot more than an extra $100.
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I don't think a LB and an AC look any different from the outside, do they? As long as one looks like a big gun, and the other as a gauss. Then a little bit of work with green stuff will make every variant from there. Wouldn't it?
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I don't think a LB and an AC look any different from the outside, do they? As long as one looks like a big gun, and the other as a gauss. Then a little bit of work with green stuff will make every variant from there. Wouldn't it?
I was thinking that LB ACs were UACs and thus multi barrel. Not that it would be outside of canon for any AC to be multi barrel.
I was just being dumb.
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I was thinking that LB ACs were UACs and thus multi barrel. Not that it would be outside of canon for any AC to be multi barrel.
I was just being dumb.
No you weren't. And I am curious as to how different the two arms will look as well. Hopefully we will get an updated orthos to drool over of them both soon.
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No you weren't. And I am curious as to how different the two arms will look as well. Hopefully we will get an updated orthos to drool over of them both soon.
I too eagerly await new orthos. Now that I realize I jumped the gun on the arm (no pun intended) I'm instead far more interested in what the right torso medium lasers will look like. If they're simple holes I can add a third one to make a royal variant. If not I may need to get a touch more creative. Though to be fair a third laser port is probably one of those things that only a handful of people would care about.
Whatever happens I'm well and truly stoked for this mini.
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I have PM'ed all the fundicator details to speck.
Thank you to all for making this a smooth and trouble-free administration of the fundication.
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I'm still trying to figure out where the 694 variant comes from. Gauss in RA, HGR in the CT/LT, and two LL's in the right torso. MUL says 3050u but I can't find it in my record sheets...
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I'm still trying to figure out where the 694 variant comes from. Gauss in RA, HGR in the CT/LT, and two LL's in the right torso. MUL says 3050u but I can't find it in my record sheets...
Make sure you have a recent copy, mine has it.
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"Negative Ghostrider the pattern is full."
Beachhead - I believe we are fully pledged, just waiting on confirmation from B-3 that he has received the final monies that took the scenic route through The Matrix. However, if somebody comes up with another variant arm/leg that needs to be added then you have the first $50 pledged towards it if you want.
I'd be down for that. Just let me know. Sorry I missed out on this one.
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Honestly, I wouldn't mind having parts to make the 738 variant.
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Honestly, I wouldn't mind having parts to make the 738 variant.
I'm with you but I'd imagine it would be rather expensive. I'd be willing to help fund such an endeavour if it's possible.
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I could throw in an extra $30-40. Assuming B-3 is fine with doing more variant parts, of course.
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From what I can tell from the record sheet we're looking at different arms, possibly head and torso. Now, it may be possible that add on parts could be used instead of complete components but I'm not in any position to say. I doubt that it's possible at this point but maybe we can still get an estimate. If we can I could put another $150 in. That's assuming that such a thing is even possible.
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The medium laser for the head would be easy enough to mod, and the center torso's SRM pack could just be a plate or something, similar to the rocket launcher on the Wasp. There might be some way to make the heavy gauss an attachment as well.
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Anybody want to go for little speakers to put on the side of the head to represent Rhonda Snord's personal ride? While we're going overboard, I mean?
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Since funds have already been collected and sent on so that sculpting can begin. The ship most likely already sailed on for more additions to be added. Most require more then a simple extra arm.
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I can sculptify anything you want and we can add it to the total. I need the info/art to generate images for these variant parts and it can happen.
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I am not planning to purchase a resculpted Highlander myself but one thing to consider is how many variant arms/launchers/covers/etc does everybody think is reasonable with a single miniature and how much extra are you willing to pay for the miniature and the spare bits that you may never find another use for.
Would it be better to consider additional variant bits for a separate fan funding effort assuming this would then mean the separately funded bits would be available as a "refit kit" or even so that a different variant can be sold as a separate miniature?
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I really don't see the issue here. The parts don't necessarily have to be sold with the miniature; they can be sold separately in the shop, like the redone Thor/Loki legs and the alt. config arms for the Blood Asp (third sculpt). Not everyone here is a master at modding, and I think folks who like the Highlander should have options available to them.
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HGN-738 would consist of: Right arm, replace Gauss Rifle with ER Large Laser, right torso, replace Medium Lasers with Heavy Gauss Rifle, center torso, add Streak SRM 4, left torso replace LRM 20 with LRM 15, left arm, replace SRM 6 with ER Medium Laser, head, add ER Medium Laser.
Assuming this requires a different torso, head and arms I would be in favor of a separate mini or conversion kit. As I said above I'll toss in another $150 to help make this happen but I assume it will take more than that.
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I'm pretty sure I can make all of these variant parts work with the original design. Again, I'll need info/art to proceed. This can be done as a "variants pack" or something along those lines.
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Here is the alternate gun arm design provided by Iamclanwolf.
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Highlander%20alternate%20gun%20arm.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Highlander%20alternate%20gun%20arm.jpg.html)
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Oh yeah! I really like that O0
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I'm pretty sure I can make all of these variant parts work with the original design. Again, I'll need info/art to proceed. This can be done as a "variants pack" or something along those lines.
Well, Klat pretty much got all the weapons locations down... but no art exists of the 738, that I'm aware of. Unless someone could tinker with the orthos...
I don't think a new torso would be necessary, though, if we go for an SRM/HGR that simply fits over the existing surface. The gauss rifle barrel and the left arm's SRM pack could possibly be a separate pieces, if one chooses to omit them for the large and medium laser, respectively. The medium laser for the head could just be another optional attachment.
As for the LRM pack, that wouldn't need to be touched, I think: anyone could just fill in 5 of the tubes with green stuff and call it a day.
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As for the LRM pack, that wouldn't need to be touched, I think: anyone could just fill in 5 of the tubes with green stuff and call it a day.
I would be adamantly against a variant requiring such modifications on the part of the purchaser. I will not provide funding for an incomplete variant.
I do not know of any art depicting the HGN-738. I assume orthos would be required before we can get an estimate. What is the process for acquiring orthos?
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Here is the alternate gun arm design provided by Iamclanwolf.
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Highlander%20alternate%20gun%20arm.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Highlander%20alternate%20gun%20arm.jpg.html)
Oh yeah! Nice work!
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I would be adamantly against a variant requiring such modifications on the part of the purchaser. I will not provide funding for an incomplete variant.
I do not know of any art depicting the HGN-738. I assume orthos would be required before we can get an estimate. What is the process for acquiring orthos?
Very well. If we're going to go through with this, we'll have the entire sculpt modified, then.
I guess we could ask IAMCLANWOLF if he'd make an orthos for the 738.
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I'm also wondering if we're even going to be able to do the HGN-738. We have no art and while the sculptor has indicated his willingness I don't know that speck is OK with all of this.
I'd like official word before I get too excited.
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Panels that fit on the original torso are my plan, makes mods very user friendly.
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Panels that fit on the original torso are my plan, makes mods very user friendly.
Very cool, thank you. I assume you need art before we can get a price?
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Yarp
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Yarp
Alright, how do I go about bribing IAMCLANWOLF into this? ;)
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Here is the alternate gun arm design provided by Iamclanwolf.
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Highlander%20alternate%20gun%20arm.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Highlander%20alternate%20gun%20arm.jpg.html)
I'm very interested to see how this turns out as a miniature - but I'm also curious as to which variant this is?
If it's the HGN-734, it has an ERLL in the RT instead of 2x ML (though it also has a MPL in the CT, so the two laser ports could be construed to represent the new weaponry). It has 2x SSRM6 in the LT instead of the LRM 20, so 12 instead of 20 missile ports. And the LA has 2x ERML instead of the SRM6, so that should definitely feature a variant weapon arm?
Or am I just being dense and missing the point?
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I'm very interested to see how this turns out as a miniature - but I'm also curious as to which variant this is?
If it's the HGN-734, it has an ERLL in the RT instead of 2x ML (though it also has a MPL in the CT, so the two laser ports could be construed to represent the new weaponry). It has 2x SSRM6 in the LT instead of the LRM 20, so 12 instead of 20 missile ports. And the LA has 2x ERML instead of the SRM6, so that should definitely feature a variant weapon arm?
Or am I just being dense and missing the point?
This was my hangup with the mention of an LB20-X. That's an AC20 representing the HGN-733C
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I just sculpt these, I need visual representations to show me what each variant needs so I can make them look right. :D
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Looks like an LBX to me. Similar to the omega's LB's. At least with the side fluting on the barrel.
Edit. And regardless of what you call it. I like it. Would work as an AC10 or 20 as well.
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Fundicators - I received a PM from speck last night confirming receipt of the fundicator details. Speck indicated he should have the fan funding IWM webstore credit vouchers out over the next few days.
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Fundicators - I received a PM from speck last night confirming receipt of the fundicator details. Speck indicated he should have the fan funding IWM webstore credit vouchers out over the next few days.
Awesome news O0
Does the discussion regarding more variants even have any weight at this point? Should we continue or wait and push for a separate round of funding?
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I am the Lead but I cannot speak on behalf of speck, B-3 or IWM.
My personal opinion would be that I suggest that additional variants (whether entire mech miniatures or as a refit kit) should be done as a separate round of funding and thus be sold separately from this Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt. The reason for my opinion is that I understand that the art for the LB-20X arm was pretty much already available whereas the art for additional variants would need to be produced from scratch for B-3 to then sculpt which will delay delivery of this resculpt significantly.
I have seen enough Defence (or Defense for you Americans) project which start as a simple enough requirement but then scope creeps happens. Additional requirements are added in by well-meaning and interested parties and, to paraphrase TRO 3025, instead of a stallion you end up with a camel.
EDIT - fixed typos.
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I am the Lead but I cannot speak on behalf of speck, B-3 or IWM.
My personal opinion would be that I suggest that additional variants (whether entire mech miniatures or as a refit kit) should be done as a separate round of funding and thus be sold separately from this Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt. The reason for my opinoin is that I understand that the art for the LB-20X arm was pretty much already available whereas the art for additional variants would need to be produced from scratch for B-3 to then sculpt which will delay delivery of this resculpt significantly.
I have seen enough Defence (or Defense for you Americans write it) project which start as a simple enough requirement but then scope creeps happens. Additional requirements are added in by well-meaning and interested parties and, to paraphrase TRO 3025, instead of a stallion you end up with a camel.
I'm good with this. I'll bring it up during the next round of funding.
Thanks for all your hard work O0
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My pleasure Klat, thank you and the rest of the fundicators for making my job smooth and as painless as possible.
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Is it possible to use our credit in person at this years Origins or do we have to waste a chunk of it on shipping?
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Will someone give me a list of weapons and their locations on the Mech for these variants please?
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Is it possible to use our credit in person at this years Origins or do we have to waste a chunk of it on shipping?
Credit is run through the webstore, it handles all of the book keeping on what is used / not used. The conventions are run by Jim for IWM, who has a separate system for maintaining show inventory and sales.
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Will someone give me a list of weapons and their locations on the Mech for these variants please?
Here you are:
HGN-738
ER Medium Laser - Head
Streak SRM 4 - Center Torso
Heavy Gauss Rifle - Right Torso
LRM 15 - Left Torso
ER Large Laser - Right Arm
ER Medium Laser - Left Arm
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Will someone give me a list of weapons and their locations on the Mech for these variants please?
HGN-734
LB-20X AC - Right Arm / Right Torso (uses the alternate version AC/20 arm above)
ER Large Laser - Right Torso
Medium Pulse Laser - Center Torso
2x Streak SRM 6 - Left Torso
2x ER Medium Laser - Left Arm
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So, the alternate arm isn't enough to do the HGN-734 variant, it also needs a detail plate to change the missile box to the 2x SRM6, a detail plate with 2x ER Medium Laser barrels for the left arm and a detail plate with an ER Large Laser and a Medium Pulse Laser to change the right/center torso. So, 3 more pieces to do this properly. [face palm]
There has been $100.00 paid for the HGN-734 variant right lower arm. If I had known of all of the additional weaponry needed for this variant I would have asked for $250.00 total.
HGN-738 needs a head mounted ER Medium Laser (top or side mounted?), a Streak SRM 4 and Heavy Gauss Rifle detail plate for the right/center torso, an LRM 15 detail plate for the missile box and an ER Medium Laser detail plate for the left arm. Will either existing right arm do for the ER Large Laser? So 4 (or 5) extra pieces.
This Variant will cost $200.00 without an additional lower right arm, $300.00 with an additional lower right arm.
I'll get the original done first then we can get the variants all squared away after.
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So, the alternate arm isn't enough to do the HGN-734 variant, it also needs a detail plate to change the missile box to the 2x SRM6, a detail plate with 2x ER Medium Laser barrels for the left arm and a detail plate with an ER Large Laser and a Medium Pulse Laser to change the right/center torso. So, 3 more pieces to do this properly. [face palm]
There has been $100.00 paid for the HGN-734 variant right lower arm. If I had known of all of the additional weaponry needed for this variant I would have asked for $250.00 total.
HGN-738 needs a head mounted ER Medium Laser (top or side mounted?), a Streak SRM 4 and Heavy Gauss Rifle detail plate for the right/center torso, an LRM 15 detail plate for the missile box and an ER Medium Laser detail plate for the left arm. Will either existing right arm do for the ER Large Laser? So 4 (or 5) extra pieces.
This Variant will cost $200.00 without an additional lower right arm, $300.00 with an additional lower right arm.
I'll get the original done first then we can get the variants all squared away after.
Sorry for all the confusion. I'm not sure why the alternative arm was first called an LB-X AC/20, when it was apparently intended to be for the 733C variant.
I personally think the 738's head mounted laser should be on the side (perhaps the right side?), rather than the top. It would look rather goofy, otherwise, and might get in the way of the antenna. The standard right arm could be reused.
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Yeah... I just noticed this thread had taken off again... :o
So, what did you guys sign me up for?
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Yeah... I just noticed this thread had taken off again... :o
So, what did you guys sign me up for?
Good stuff! :D
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Yeah... I just noticed this thread had taken off again... :o
So, what did you guys sign me up for?
Cookies
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Cookies
I can get behind that.
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There has been $100.00 paid for the HGN-734 variant right lower arm. If I had known of all of the additional weaponry needed for this variant I would have asked for $250.00 total.
I can provide the additional $150 in approximately one week.
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I can provide the additional $150 in approximately one week.
Oh... I thought you were going to help fund the 738?
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Oh... I thought you were going to help fund the 738?
Looks like it will happen later. I'm concerned that B-3 feels like he got shorted and I'd like to remedy that quickly if possible.
When the 738 comes up I'll help with that too.
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It's cool, I just didn't know there were other pieces necessary to do this variant. 8)
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It's cool, I just didn't know there were other pieces necessary to do this variant. 8)
Well, the offer stands.
So, at this point we are getting an HGN-732 and conversion parts for an HGN-734? I'm sorry to keep asking but I just want to know exactly where we're at.
As for the HGN -738 I assume we'll wait to bring it up another round. Is this correct as well?
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You wanna frog for it and he is cool. Go for it Klat. Will also point out the gun arm will work good for the 733 and 733c. So in all that's parts for four variants.
Just hope this does not end up being a very expensive mini to buy.
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Well, the offer stands.
So, at this point we are getting an HGN-732 and conversion parts for an HGN-734? I'm sorry to keep asking but I just want to know exactly where we're at.
As for the HGN -738 I assume we'll wait to bring it up another round. Is this correct as well?
Yep you got it. O0
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Since funds have already been collected and sent on so that sculpting can begin. The ship most likely already sailed on for more additions to be added. Most require more then a simple extra arm.
You guys may want to consider what the actual IWM representative on this board has said. Enthusiasm is great, but consider what so many extra parts is going to do to the price of the finished miniature, and then consider whether IWM is actually going to be able to sell and make money off this. A little DIY and green stuff goes a long way. We don't need six extra parts for every variant in the books.
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Well, parts for both variants don't have to be included. The other could simply be an online exclusive, just like the vast majority of all the Omni parts.
And not to be a snob, but I'm pretty sure the Highlander variants would sell better than the Reseen Galahad and Kraken are, currently.
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Well, parts for both variants don't have to be included. The other could simply be an online exclusive, just like the vast majority of all the Omni parts.
And not to be a snob, but I'm pretty sure the Highlander variants would sell better than the Reseen Galahad and Kraken are, currently.
Herein lies the problem. If this is for variant parts that won't be included with the retail miniature, they have no place in the discussion of what the retail miniature should look like or how much it should be funded for.
What I'm getting at is that you're way beyond the scope of fan funding. I would like to see fan funding continue, this time, and if we (collectively) badger and pester about this and that and I want this variant and that variant, we're only going to see less minis funded through this.
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I agree about the scope. Lets finish what we initially agreed to and have already funded. We could always revisit the rest later.
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To be fair this is what got me going.
I can sculptify anything you want and we can add it to the total. I need the info/art to generate images for these variant parts and it can happen.
Now I should have just dropped it when speck said things were done. That's my fault for continuing the topic. I really don't want to mess this up for anyone or cause problems. I do sincerely apologize for contributing to a line of conversation that has apparently led to some frustration.
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All good. We all get excited at the thought of more bits to play with.
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I apologize as well. The alternate arm got me all excited and... yeah.
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So we are gonna stick with the highlander with just the two arms now. Right all.
And just note. You want to throw up a variant pack for the next fan funding I will vote for it as well.
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I have an email into IWM aboot all of this so I'll have an answer soon.
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So we are gonna stick with the highlander with just the two arms now. Right all.
And just note. You want to throw up a variant pack for the next fan funding I will vote for it as well.
You mean 3 arms. That is why this was a bit more in funding is because they are going to do an extra arm for one of the other variants. Outside of that the 4th arm that was being discussed and possibly being funded will probably not be done.
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OK, I just got official confirmation from IWM that it's a go to do the necessary parts for the 734 and 738 variants now. The alternate arm for the 734 has been funded but the other detail parts have not. The 738 has not been funded at all so far. Wadayathink? :D
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OK, I just got official confirmation from IWM that it's a go to do the necessary parts for the 734 and 738 variants now. The alternate arm for the 734 has been funded but the other detail parts have not. The 738 has not been funded at all so far. Wadayathink? :D
How much do you need to make it all happen?
While I had some unexpected expenses pop up that cut into my gaming budget I should be able to throw in a fair amount on or around the first of the month.
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OK, I just got official confirmation from IWM that it's a go to do the necessary parts for the 734 and 738 variants now. The alternate arm for the 734 has been funded but the other detail parts have not. The 738 has not been funded at all so far. Wadayathink? :D
Excellent news. I won't be able to pay just yet, either, though. Perhaps in a couple of weeks -- but I'd be down for about $40.
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B-3 - just to confirm that IWM has approved that the 734 & 738 variants can go ahead as part of this fan funding? I also assume that we will need orthos and if you give us a quote for 734 & 738 (I assume after we have orthos), we can start taking fundicator pledges on them.
If everybody is happy to put up with my nagging again, I will happily continue to lead this fundication if 734 & 738 are deemed part of this fundication.
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B-3 - just to confirm that IWM has approved that the 734 & 738 variants can go ahead as part of this fan funding? I also assume that we will need orthos and if you give us a quote for 734 & 738 (I assume after we have orthos), we can start taking fundicator pledges on them.
If everybody is happy to put up with my nagging again, I will happily continue to lead this fundication if 734 & 738 are deemed part of this fundication.
They can be part of this Fundication, I'll put orthos together ASAP. I'm well into the sculpting on this one with the head torso and hips finished. I'll get photos posted soon. I'll need an additional $350.00 to do these extra variant parts. If these don't get funded, I'll do what has and move on to the Griffin.
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Cheer and thanks B-3 O0
Ladies and gentlemen, as noted above B-3 has indicated he can provide the orthos and he can sculpt the bits for the HGN-734 and HGN-738 variants for $350. So here is your once in a lifetime chance to secure your place in the annals of BT history and be a fundicator of these fine pewter miniature armaments.
beachhead1985, Lyran Rainboom & Klat - now that B-3 has given us a quote, could you please be kind enough to confirm your pledges for the bits for the HGN-734 and HGN-738 variants, if you want to go ahead with them.
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Cheer and thanks B-3 O0
Ladies and gentlemen, as noted above B-3 has indicated he can provide the orthos and he can sculpt the bits for the HGN-734 and HGN-738 variants for $350. So here is your once in a lifetime chance to secure your place in the annals of BT history and be a fundicator of these fine pewter miniature armaments.
beachhead1985, Lyran Rainboom & Klat - now that B-3 has given us a quote, could you please be kind enough to confirm your pledges for the bits for the HGN-734 and HGN-738 variants, if you want to go ahead with them.
If you can wait until on or around the first I'll fund the remaining $350.
I guess I'm a Lyran now...
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If you can wait until on or around the first I'll fund the remaining $350.
I guess I'm a Lyran now...
No, no... that's too much for one person alone. I'll be fine with doing $50. However, I need a little time as well before I can confirm this pledge.
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IF my bank ain't closed friday like they sometime do for a holiday. I can put in another 25 to maybe 50 as well. Depending on the size of the check I get. Can let you know then as well.
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$50 for me.
I can send the money now if given direction.
Mike
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No rush fellas, I'll build em and you pay when you can.
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Wow, thanks everyone. please know that whatever balance remains I'll take care of it. It's really great seeing everyone come together like this O0
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Behrle, do you need me to continue with the orthos, or are you now taking over? I'm confused. As always.
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Behrle, do you need me to continue with the orthos, or are you now taking over? I'm confused. As always.
You seemed up to your eyeballs in orthos so I didn't wanna volunteer you for anything else. If you wannadoem go for it! O0
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WOW this is going to be one amazing sculpt can't wait to see this and will have to buy multiple's
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You seemed up to your eyeballs in orthos so I didn't wanna volunteer you for anything else. If you wannadoem go for it! O0
Either way. Jus' lemmie know.
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I'm busting this one out, how soon can you get the extra orthos out?
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I'm busting this one out, how soon can you get the extra orthos out?
Sounds like I should just focus on getting the Griffin orthos done. What I want doesn't matter.
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I look forward to seeing what you come up with for both of the Highlander variants and the Griffin! O0
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Here is what I have so far.
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/th_HGN1.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN1.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/th_HGN2.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN2.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/th_HGN3.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN3.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/th_HGN4.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN4.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/th_HGN5.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN5.jpg.html)
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Looking good B3!
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Oh yeah, Behrle. Looking outstanding!
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Thanks Guys!
I got these from IAMCLANWOLF today!
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/HGN-734.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN-734.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/HGN-738.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN-738.jpg.html)
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Thanks Guys!
I got these from IAMCLANWOLF today!
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/HGN-734.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN-734.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/HGN-738.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN-738.jpg.html)
Nice! O0
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Great work and great orthos, too! I have one minor nitpick.. the cockpit looks too tall in the picture. I don't know if it is caused by the perspective, but it looks too big compared with the ortho. The size of the chest and the cockpit look too close, closer than the ortho.
(ducks for cover!)
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The orthos look great.
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Cockpit is 4.8mm tall in the ortho and 4.8mm tall in 3-D.
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It does look taller in 3D. Strange.
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Delicious. My heart can barely handle all this Highlander.
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The back with the JJ looks not familiar. Is there any official artwork that shows a Highlander from behind ?
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Is there any official artwork that shows a Highlander from behind ?
I will refrain from making any comments that might get me banned. ;)
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Those are some beautiful orthos... Can't wait to see the mini. 8)
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The back with the JJ looks not familiar. Is there any official artwork that shows a Highlander from behind ?
Looks a lot like a Highlander IIC's back, without being identical. Given that the Highlander IIC is badassery incarnate, this is a good thing.
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I don't know if it is caused by the perspective, but it looks too big compared with the ortho. The size of the chest and the cockpit look too close, closer than the ortho.
Cockpit is 4.8mm tall in the ortho and 4.8mm tall in 3-D.
I think you will find that is a trick of the eye on the orthos. In the front view orthos the "jaw line" is white with the cockpit viewscreen in a darker shade of grey which makes the head appear slimmer than it actually is drawn. With the sculpt because the cockpit viewscreen plus the jawline are the one colour it makes the head appear taller than in the front view ortho. If you look at the side view ortho you can see that the side of the head appears taller looking than on the front view ortho.
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Fan Funding Credit has been emailed, if you do not see it check your spam folder first before you PM me.
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Fan Funding Credit has been emailed, if you do not see it check your spam folder first before you PM me.
Just got mine, thanks! O0
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Thanks, speck.
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Thanks Speck!
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Fan Funding Credit has been emailed, if you do not see it check your spam folder first before you PM me.
Much obliged.
Will the credit expire, though? 'Cause I didn't want to use it right away; I'm waiting for the Stalker II.
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Much obliged.
Will the credit expire, though? 'Cause I didn't want to use it right away; I'm waiting for the Stalker II.
No, but I would just advice redeeming it so that it is already applied to your account. In case you delete the email.
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Thanks Speck, received and redeemed. O0
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Got mine. And can send out another $25 towards the remaining bits.
Just need to know how we are handling it since it is extra $$. And have limited internet ATM. So will check in again every couple days until we can get our ducks in a row over the remaining money for the bits.
Thanks
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I'll reconfirm my 50 bucks. Anywhere you need it. Just tickled to help.
IAMCLANWOLF; you do great work for the community, what you want does matter.
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I will reaffirm my commitment to make up whatever is left after others pledge what they can. There may be a slight delay on my end but it shouldn't be greater than a week from my initial commitment of the first.
Unfortunately, some of my customers have failed to pay their bills and another bounced a check to me. I will still pay whatever balance is remaining, as I promised, but I wanted to keep everyone updated.
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what you want does matter.
Sorry. Was just getting spread a bit thin this week with work, and didn't have time to get the Griffin orthos done.
Felt like I was letting people down-- wanting to jump on the additional Highlander orthos first.
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Thanks BB and Beachhead for posting your pledges and for the PMs to confirm.
So far I have the following pledges for HGN-734 and HGN-738 variants bits (funding target of $350)
Lyran_Rainboom $50
Bartholomew bartholomew $50
The Wayfarer $50
beachhead1985 $50
Klat $150 $100*
Incognito Fundicator #1 $50 (fundicator has requested that I do not identify them on the forum for privacy reasons)
* - Klat has pledged to fund the remainder if there are not further pledges.
As B-3 has indicated that he does not urgently need the funds, I will leave the pledging open until 31 May 2015 (I will close it 0001 hrs, 01 Jun 2015 Australian Eastern Standard Time, which is GMT+10h).
So the HGN-734 and HGN-738 variants bits can be considered funded but I will not send out PMs for the money from the fundicators until 01 Jun 2015 (if that is ok with you B-3?) which will give time for Klat to give my cousins from Chinatown a call (they have unique set of skills >:D ).
edit - updated with additional fundication pledge
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... will give time for Klat to give my cousins from Chinatown a call (they have unique set of skills >:D ).
https://youtu.be/TId2NDiuu2s?t=135 (https://youtu.be/TId2NDiuu2s?t=135)
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Sounds good Feenix!
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Fan Funding Credit has been emailed, if you do not see it check your spam folder first before you PM me.
Received! Many thanks!
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I got mine as well. thank you
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Updated head.
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/HGN-732%20visor.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN-732%20visor.jpg.html)
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Looking good.
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Updated head.
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/HGN-732%20visor.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN-732%20visor.jpg.html)
Me gusta.
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Final final Heed revision. :D
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/HGN-732%20visor2.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN-732%20visor2.jpg.html)
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man, can't wait!
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Is that a 'mech-scale Viper in the background? 8)
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1/144 scale viper. Got a 1/270 scale in the queue.
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I hate to be off topic, but will those vipers end up for sale from one company or another in the future? Or are they for a private party.
Thanks much.
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A question that forum rules require only be answered via PM...
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OK here it is! 51mm tall. 14 pieces: Head, Torso, Hips, Left and Right Upper Arm, Left and Right Lower Arm, Left Hand, Left and Right Upper Leg, Left and Right Lower Leg, Left and Right Foot.
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/HGN%20F.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN%20F.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/HGN%20LF.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN%20LF.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/HGN%20L.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN%20L.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/HGN%20LB.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN%20LB.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/HGN%20B.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN%20B.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/HGN%20RB.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN%20RB.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/HGN%20R.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN%20R.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/HGN%20RF.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN%20RF.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Highlander%20scale.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Highlander%20scale.jpg.html)
Only thing that I forgot to do is trim off the outer foot actuators. Imagine them on the inner sides only, they will be in the production version.
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I love you, Hubbie. It looks so damned beautiful.
[drool]
I need a bib.
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Gorgeous!
Do you know how poseable those legs will be, in light of the big pistons along the back?
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A beautiful sculpt! Can't wait to have one of these on hand myself! O0 [drool]
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Gorgeous!
Do you know how poseable those legs will be, in light of the big pistons along the back?
I sculpted dents into the point where pistons meet the lower leg and you can trim the piston down at an angle with nail clippers to get almost a 90* angle knee bend. Or you can snip the whole thing off and get a much steeper knee bend.
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Works for me!
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Incredible! I love it. Finally, justice has been done with this miniature! [fiddle] [fiddle] [fiddle]
BTW, I was scared to see the feet on the base, the legs are separated parts?
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Incredible! I love it. Finally, justice has been done with this miniature! [fiddle] [fiddle] [fiddle]
BTW, I was scared to see the feet on the base, the legs are separated parts?
Yep feet, lower legs and upper legs are separate parts.
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Wow! What a beast!
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Yum! Can't wait!
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Daaaaaamn.
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Looks great B-3 O0
You are making it difficult for me to resist the urge to be a fundicator for this even against my original misgivings of resculpting what I believe is a perfectly serviceable miniature.
Speaking of fundication, a gratuitous plug for the limited remaining opportunities to be a part of fan funding this marvellous re-sculpt.
"Fundication guarantees citizenship." Want to know more? :D
Ladies and gentlemen, as noted above B-3 has indicated he can provide the orthos and he can sculpt the bits for the HGN-734 and HGN-738 variants for $350. So here is your once in a lifetime chance to secure your place in the annals of BT history and be a fundicator of these fine pewter miniature armaments.
Thanks BB and Beachhead for posting your pledges and for the PMs to confirm.
So far I have the following pledges for HGN-734 and HGN-738 variants bits (funding target of $350)
Lyran_Rainboom $50
Bartholomew bartholomew $50
The Wayfarer $50
beachhead1985 $50
Klat $150*
* - Klat has pledged to fund the remainder if there are not further pledges.
As B-3 has indicated that he does not urgently need the funds, I will leave the pledging open until 31 May 2015 (I will close it 0001 hrs, 01 Jun 2015 Australian Eastern Standard Time, which is GMT+10h).
So the HGN-734 and HGN-738 variants bits can be considered funded but I will not send out PMs for the money from the fundicators until 01 Jun 2015 (if that is ok with you B-3?) which will give time for Klat to give my cousins from Chinatown a call (they have unique set of skills >:D ).
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B-3
It looks like one of the knees is green stuff, but the other one looks like white metal. Did mold and cast the part? Will it be separate in the final version?
I'm interested in how you go about your work. O0
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That is a fantastic looking Highlander.
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B-3
It looks like one of the knees is green stuff, but the other one looks like white metal. Did mold and cast the part? Will it be separate in the final version?
I'm interested in how you go about your work. O0
Likely the reason is that the lower legs and feet are identical, and B-3 just made a copy. He is kinda awesome like that...
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That turned out beautifully!! Great work!!! Thanks!!!
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Thanks Fellas, I'm glad you like it! :D I did indeed sculpt one leg, shin, foot and upper arm then mold and cast duplicates since they were identical side to side. The legs will be three separate pieces each. I try to be efficient and not repeat myself, I try to be efficient and not repeat myself, it saves time and helps the bottom line. ;)
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Thanks Fellas, I'm glad you like it! :D I did indeed sculpt one leg, shin, foot and upper arm then mold and cast duplicates since they were identical side to side. The legs will be three separate pieces each. I try to be efficient and not repeat myself, I try to be efficient and not repeat myself, it saves time and helps the bottom line. ;)
You win an Internet.
The sculpt looks good O0
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Pledges for HGN-734 and HGN-738 variants bits updated.
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Pledges for HGN-734 and HGN-738 variants bits updated.
Thank you anonymous fundicator and all the other fundicators too! O0
Assuming everything goes according to plan I'll be able to send money Tuesday.
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OK here it is! 51mm tall. 14 pieces: Head, Torso, Hips, Left and Right Upper Arm, Left and Right Lower Arm, Left Hand, Left and Right Upper Leg, Left and Right Lower Leg, Left and Right Foot.
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/HGN%20F.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN%20F.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/HGN%20LF.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN%20LF.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/HGN%20L.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN%20L.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/HGN%20LB.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN%20LB.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/HGN%20B.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN%20B.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/HGN%20RB.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN%20RB.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/HGN%20R.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN%20R.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/HGN%20RF.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/HGN%20RF.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/Highlander%20scale.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Highlander%20scale.jpg.html)
Only thing that I forgot to do is trim off the outer foot actuators. Imagine them on the inner sides only, they will be in the production version.
WOW so much better than the original mini I am holding and comparing them. Don't get me wrong its a good mini but this is a major improvement
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Thank you to the fundicators of their pledges for HGN-734 and HGN-738 variants bits.
I will send out the emails with payment details tomorrow night. My apologies, I was trying to get to it tonight but had to deal with some other business tonight that came up at short notice.
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OK, I just want to confirm how much I owe. I should be ready to send money in the next couple of days.
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tomorrow night check. Will be back online in PM tomorrow or next day for sending out the $$. Probably tomorrow at about this time.
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Ok the finalised pledges for HGN-734 and HGN-738 variants bits (funding target of $350) are:
Lyran_Rainboom $50 (payment sent)
Bartholomew bartholomew $50 (payment sent)
The Wayfarer $50 (payment sent)
beachhead1985 $50 (payment sent)
Klat $100 (has been in contact with my cousins from Chinatown and will have his outstanding debtors sorted out soon) ;) (payment sent)
Incognito Fundicator #1 $50 (payment sent) (fundicator has requested that I do not identify them on the forum for privacy reasons)
I will PM each of the fundicators with B-3's paypal details. Once all the payments have been made, I will send details to speck who will issue the IWM webstore credit vouchers.
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Sent!
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Mine's been sent.
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Sent!
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Sent! O0
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OK, I got all of the Highlander Variant fundication and have started sculptifying the bits. If all goes well and I don't have to replace any more timing chains on any of my cars, I should have these all buttoned up by the end of the week! :D
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Are you waiting to send the master(s) to IWM till everything is done?
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Fundicator details have been forwarded to speck for issuing of IWM webstore credit vouchers.
I understand that speck is at Origins this week, so I would not expect to see him issue the credit vouchers until some time next week when he has recovered from working the convention, so please be patient.
Once again thank you to all the fundicators for making my job of administering this fundication effort smooth and stress-free. It has been an honour and a priviledge to be a small part in helping turn this idea into a reality.
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Sorry, but just an observation, should the front page be updated to show which Highlander sculpts are being done? You really have to dig for a while to figure it out. As far as I can tell, it's the original HGN-732, plus the variants for the HGN-734 & and HGN-738
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Finished master photos. Variant photos later today.
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/th_Highlander%20ink%20F.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Highlander%20ink%20F.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/th_Highlander%20ink%20FL.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Highlander%20ink%20FL.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/th_Highlander%20ink%20L.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Highlander%20ink%20L.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/th_Highlander%20ink%20LB.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Highlander%20ink%20LB.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/th_Highlander%20ink%20B.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Highlander%20ink%20B.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/th_Highlander%20ink%20RB.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Highlander%20ink%20RB.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/th_Highlander%20ink%20R.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Highlander%20ink%20R.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/th_Highlander%20ink%20RF.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Highlander%20ink%20RF.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/th_Highlander%20ink%20Foot.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Highlander%20ink%20Foot.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/th_Highlander%20ink%20Heed.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/Highlander%20ink%20Heed.jpg.html)
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Siick! O0
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734
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/734L.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/734L.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/734F.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/734F.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/734R.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/734R.jpg.html)
738
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/738R.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/738R.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/738F.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/738F.jpg.html)(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/ysgryphon/Battletech/738L.jpg) (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/ysgryphon/media/Battletech/738L.jpg.html)
I varied from the orthos on the missile racks, just because the 732 rack arrangement was such a bitch to cast.
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Damn, son. Very pleased with how this came out.
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Sometimes stressful, but always highly rewarding. Very nicely done, Behrle.
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That is fantastic!!!
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Thanks! :D
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Thanks to B-3, IAMCLANWOLF, speck and the fundicators for bringing this beautiful sculpt into existance.
I feel privileged to have played a very small part in the process. I look forward to purchasing one for my mini collection.
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I was initially baffled as to why so many people wanted the Highlander resculpted, the original seemed perfect to me.
Upon witnessing this beast, I have seen the light. Very nice looking assault 'mech here. I will definitely be getting some for my Shadows.
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I was initially baffled as to why so many people wanted the Highlander resculpted, the original seemed perfect to me.
Upon witnessing this beast, I have seen the light. Very nice looking assault 'mech here. I will definitely be getting some for my Shadows.
+1
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Your work is absolutely amazing, you've done that mini justice. It has presence and I can't wait to buy three
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It looks great B3. I am glad to have been a teeny part of this.
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I am so freakin' pumped about these sculpts. I really need to figure out where I'm going to put all the superfluous Highlanders I'm going to buy once these are out.
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Thanks for all the support and interest in this project! I'm REALLY happy with this little fella! :))
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I was initially baffled as to why so many people wanted the Highlander resculpted, the original seemed perfect to me.
Because with scale creep the old sculpt looks like a medium mech, the new T-bolt or Archer towers over my old Highlanders. :'(
I'm going to need 3 or 4 of the new sculpt at least. :-\
(Now if only someone could help my dwarfed Awesomes & Hatamotos... :-[ )
I don't suppose these will be out by GenCon, maybe by Thanksgiving? ??? (I can only hope!)
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They got the APC's and the Rifleman out for Origins, it could happen for Gencon.
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Awesome work! I love the variants and the original. Now the Highlander has a miniature up to the level of his legend. O0 O0
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I gotta' ask - how do you get such perfectly aligned and shaped missile holes in your plastic? I tried like heck on my Griffin-mod and couldn't get it right.
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I could tell you but then I'd hafta kill you. :D
No really, I draw a grid, take a pointed tool and make a dent at each intersection or empty space depending on the pattern and then the drill starts in the dent for good alignment (usually). Drill shallow holes of even depth, repeat as necessary. O0
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I could tell you but then I'd hafta kill you. :D
No really, I draw a grid, take a pointed tool and make a dent at each intersection or empty space depending on the pattern and then the drill starts in the dent for good alignment (usually). Drill shallow holes of even depth, repeat as necessary. O0
Witchcraft!
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I could tell you but then I'd hafta kill you. :D
No really, I draw a grid, take a pointed tool and make a dent at each intersection or empty space depending on the pattern and then the drill starts in the dent for good alignment (usually). Drill shallow holes of even depth, repeat as necessary. O0
Hrm. So, what you're saying, is I was pretty much on the right level with what I was doing, I just need to practice more.
Thank you. :)
Witchcraft!
Or turn to this, yes... ;)
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Yes, Practice Witchcraft. :D
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Aside from sorcery, any advice for someone needing to kitbash a good cylindrical missile launcher?
(In this case, an Unseen Thunderbolt)
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Aside from sorcery, any advice for someone needing to kitbash a good cylindrical missile launcher?
(In this case, an Unseen Thunderbolt)
Probably will be of no help here but what I would at least try to do is take a brass tube, about the diameter of the original missile launcher, cover one end with thin styrene sheeting, and put green putty in the inside, then close off the other side with another peice of styrene. After this you could probably follow B-3's advice and draw a pattern where the individual missile ports are.
At least thats what I'd try, I hope this helps! O0
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Aside from sorcery, any advice for someone needing to kitbash a good cylindrical missile launcher?
(In this case, an Unseen Thunderbolt)
Depending on the OD of the tubing needed you could use a Leggo and/or model kit sprue and drill your launch tube holes in the end.
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Aside from sorcery, any advice for someone needing to kitbash a good cylindrical missile launcher?
(In this case, an Unseen Thunderbolt)
There is brass tubing in the exact diameter (likely how it was sculpted in the first place). I cut the correct length, then scored around the diameter about 1/16" from each end for a little detail. Then I filled with epoxy putty, leaving about 1/16" indent at the front. I drilled the patterned holes in a piece of styrene then cut/filed the bit until it fit tight inside the tube. Next I glued the bit to a larger tab of styrene so I could use it as a stamp. I added a small wad of epoxy to the front of the tube then pressed it down with the stamp. It took a few tries but I got a pretty damn good set of missile tips if I do say so myself. Cast a dozen copies and I'm all set. Of course this was an LRM15 tube. I never finished the LRM10 or LRM20 tubes.
The shot of the three tubes is (left to right) rear, front, and "green".
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Just a FYI, those who funded the variants parts. I sent all the credit voucher emails out to you.
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Just a FYI, those who funded the variants parts. I sent all the credit voucher emails out to you.
Got mine, thank you.
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Got mine!
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Got mine too. And just used them. Thanks
Glad to have been part of this!
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How soon can I buy three of these?
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Soon, methinks! A Master is in the CSO Diorama here at Gen Con! O0
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I can see the skill that it took to make the model, but I like the old one much better. This one to me does not look like the art.
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We will have to agree to disagree. The old model needs to be turned out and retired, sorry. I loved the old model but, after working on the new one, wow. I'm sold. Looking forward to the Flashman next!
(http://camospecs.com/images/schemes/61_Psycho_48thSD_Highlander2.jpg)
(http://www.camospecs.com/images/schemes/1_CGHighlander1.jpg)
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It is one of the successfull resculpts, definitely. Can't wait to lay my hands on some of them.
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I was not sold on the idea that the Highlander needed a resculpt. I believed and still do believe that the original sculpt is perfectly serviceable. However, as I have said up thread, I am proud to have played a very minor part in getting this resculpt into production, it is simply beautiful and leaves the original sculpt in a cloud of its jump jet exhaust.
When it is available for purchase I will be purchasing it for my growing personal collection of miniatures and I will also purchase an original sculpt (allows me to field two Highlanders on a tabletop and not get the two miniatures mixed up). However I am only plannig to stock the resculpt for sale.
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Soon, methinks! A Master is in the CSO Diorama here at Gen Con! O0
Thanks for the pics, GRUD!
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Having held this beauty in my hands at Gen Con I can say it is worlds above the original! I can't wait to buy a few for my forces!
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Have any of the fan sculpts made it to the online store yet? ???
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Nope. :'(
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Allow some time for the GenCon hangover to pass. They'll get there.
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Allow some time for the GenCon hangover to pass. They'll get there.
I should be getting some of the new BT items up on webstore over next few weeks. Been playing catch up this week and now will be out of town this weekend again.
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Been playing catch up this week and now will be out of town this weekend again.
Sounds like you need some clones. That's a project I could get behind.
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I was at Gen Con, and I completely missed it. :-[
However, The Wasp LAM and basic APCs are awesome!
The LAM will be quite a project.
I always thought the original Highlander did not have the right proportions, thanks to all who funded this.
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Speck I haven't seen this posted anywhere yet on the site still when will it be released on the online store?
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Locked thread since Highlander has been released. Variants to follow soon.