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Title: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: DarkSpade on 03 August 2022, 19:39:26
Heroscape is coming back!  Why do Battletech players care and why would I post in the terrain section?  Because that means those sweet tiles are going to be available again too!

https://twitter.com/avalonhill/status/1554874848744296449

Pics are already leaking from Gencon display cases.  They're the same tiles!

EDIT:  Got word this photo is Hasbro approved so attaching it.
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: Daryk on 03 August 2022, 20:13:56
It's weird they'd advertise it with fantasy models... hexes are more wargame adjacent...  ???
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: CVB on 03 August 2022, 20:17:20
And what does the 3rd mini from the right carry? It looks like a vacuum cleaner with a long hose... :D
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: DarkSpade on 03 August 2022, 20:23:56
It's weird they'd advertise it with fantasy models... hexes are more wargame adjacent...  ???

They're advertising it with the new heroscape units.  The game is a mix of fantasy, sci-fi, and historical units.
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: Daryk on 04 August 2022, 03:08:41
Ah, that makes sense, thanks!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: pokefan548 on 04 August 2022, 08:27:03
Nice! Still have some of my old minis and hexes from by Battle for Valhalla box... somewhere. HeroScape terrain was the best, I've been looking for weeks to find it for my BT games. Those look like the OG tile molds; I wonder if the hexes will stay the same, or if they were just using some spares left in storage for the demo.

And yeah, HeroScape is basically a whole bunch of dudes from alternate universes and time periods of different genres getting thrown into one world having to fight to survive (or occasionally at the behest of some feuding deities).
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 04 August 2022, 08:43:40
In my group we have enough heroscape tiles to cover a 6x4 table.  We will be buying more
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: DarkSpade on 04 August 2022, 11:09:38
Nice! Still have some of my old minis and hexes from by Battle for Valhalla box... somewhere. HeroScape terrain was the best, I've been looking for weeks to find it for my BT games. Those look like the OG tile molds; I wonder if the hexes will stay the same, or if they were just using some spares left in storage for the demo.

And yeah, HeroScape is basically a whole bunch of dudes from alternate universes and time periods of different genres getting thrown into one world having to fight to survive (or occasionally at the behest of some feuding deities).

Word is full backwards compatibility. Said word came from reliable source. Also, if you look closely, those water tiles are a new color.
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: garhkal on 04 August 2022, 13:50:41
In my group we have enough heroscape tiles to cover a 6x4 table.  We will be buying more

Talking about tables, mine is a oval 6x4 table, but as i may be getting up to six players, i think i need to expand to 8x4 or even 8x5..  Any idea where i can get decent tables that size, for the price?
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: CVB on 04 August 2022, 15:51:34
I've used an ex Snooker table with the slate bed replaced with plywood, and a three part wooden plate on top so it can be used as our dinner table in every day use. Since the playing area is lower than the frame and we used die cut counters instead of miniatures, the game could remain set up between meetings.
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 04 August 2022, 17:41:24
If we're playing on a big table it's in the LGS or at a con, not one of our houses or the pub.
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: Daryk on 04 August 2022, 18:22:28
In my group we have enough heroscape tiles to cover a 6x4 table.  We will be buying more
Your group is a collection of HEROES, good sir!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: Kerfuffin(925) on 11 October 2022, 21:54:56
The ‘KS’ for this has launched as of a few days ago.

It’s on the Hasbro proprietary crowd funding site, HasbroPulse

https://hasbropulse.com/products/heroscape-age-of-annihilation-vanguard-edition?gbraid=0AAAAADg6BL9fef5LM6vheR7Ja3b3-lbd_&kid=39700059628823809&gbraid=0AAAAADg6BL9fef5LM6vheR7Ja3b3-lbd_&gclid=CjwKCAjwqJSaBhBUEiwAg5W9p1ioUwm9M2WWl9dpm9nfrn9anRIWUq5k2N0n810AUQajBzxPSAzXbBoCmvIQAvD_BwE
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: Daryk on 12 October 2022, 03:09:41
Cool!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 12 October 2022, 03:24:39
I decided to pass on backing it, at $250 it's too much for the amount of terrain you get when my group would just be dumping everything else.
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: DarkSpade on 12 October 2022, 08:22:28
I decided to pass on backing it, at $250 it's too much for the amount of terrain you get when my group would just be dumping everything else.

This is more about the minis and the limited edition starter.  As I understand it, there will be a normal retail starter later.
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 12 October 2022, 09:35:51
Yeah, I'm hoping it will, I tried asking about it during the Pulsecon livestream but got drowned out by people spamming "when's Transformers", "when's Star Wars" and "What's Heroscape" into the chat.
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: pokefan548 on 13 October 2022, 08:40:44
Ah, the minis are no longer pre-painted? I mean, I kind of get it, but it's a bit of a shame; some of the original HeroScape minis actually had some fairly pretty paint jobs, and the unique aesthetic between each army made them pretty easy to distinguish from each other. Just seems like they wanted to disguise a cut corner to me. The cards look updated as well, and admittedly I don't remember much of the moment-to-moment gameplay of HeroScape, but they look pretty simplified.

I'm with Lorcan on this one. It's tempting, but really I can't put down $250 for this. I'll save it for the regular set and some terrain packs later on down the road.
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: DarkSpade on 13 October 2022, 16:51:29
Ah, the minis are no longer pre-painted? I mean, I kind of get it, but it's a bit of a shame; some of the original HeroScape minis actually had some fairly pretty paint jobs, and the unique aesthetic between each army made them pretty easy to distinguish from each other. Just seems like they wanted to disguise a cut corner to me. The cards look updated as well, and admittedly I don't remember much of the moment-to-moment gameplay of HeroScape, but they look pretty simplified.

Prepainted minis would have raised the price so much this time around, Hasbro wouldn't have bothered to rerelease it. The guys working on it realized pretty quickly it wasn't worth pushing for. Thanks to contrast paints, it shouldn't be that hard for anyone to make them look just as good as the originals.

It's supposed to be 100% compatible with the old stuff. Terrain too.

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I'm with Lorcan on this one. It's tempting, but really I can't put down $250 for this. I'll save it for the regular set and some terrain packs later on down the road.

I'm kind of on the fence myself.  While I liked the game, I never got it to the table very often.  However, there are some really nice minis, and I have gotten some secondary uses out of them.   Also, while I already do have a lot of the terrain, I don't have those new bits.  And the terrain did get a lot of use. 
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: Daryk on 13 October 2022, 19:07:00
That's some amazing terrain right there!  8)
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: DarkSpade on 20 October 2022, 16:23:46
They redid the campaign page.  Feels like they should have opened with this image in the first place.

But yeah, this is really more about the minis than the terrain, but fingers crossed its successful enough we see some more terrain-centric expansions in the future.
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: Daryk on 20 October 2022, 17:27:54
Yes, they absolutely should have opened with that image!  :o
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: DarkSpade on 16 November 2022, 19:42:44
Well, it failed.  They've already released a statement saying the game will be shelved indefinitely.  :'(

Hopefully they find another game that can use the terrain.
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: Daryk on 16 November 2022, 19:49:45
I suspect they would have succeeded if they stuck with just the terrain...  :-\
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: Kerfuffin(925) on 17 November 2022, 00:10:24
I thought their numbers were oddly high for a niche Kickstarter not actually on a real crowdfunding site
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: pokefan548 on 17 November 2022, 09:06:50
Having more tiers that weren't an expensive special edition box probably would have helped. Would have happily thrown $50-$80 or so their way in exchange for a basic starter box and/or some terrain packs, and I'm sure a significant number of people who didn't back feel the same.
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: NeonKnight on 17 November 2022, 09:50:49
It's weird they'd advertise it with fantasy models... hexes are more wargame adjacent...  ???

They're advertising it with the new heroscape units.  The game is a mix of fantasy, sci-fi, and historical units.

Yep, the concept begind HeroScape was that a bunch of 'portals/gates' opened and dragged people/creatures/etc from across various dimensions to the game world. As a result you have Dragons, Zombies, Sci-Fi terminator-esqu robots, Cowboys, WWII Marines etc. All battling it out.

The game was fun, and even had at one time a Marvel Spin-Off.
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: DarkSpade on 17 November 2022, 14:07:27

The game was fun, and even had at one time a Marvel Spin-Off.

And with more planned that even had thier minis previewed at gencon once.

I suspect they would have succeeded if they stuck with just the terrain...  :-\

Actually the biggest complaint from veteran players was that they didnt need more tiles, but they did want new units.

Still, it would be nice to see the tiles as a stand alone product, but sadly, that's out of Avalon Hill's normal niche.
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: Daemion on 20 November 2022, 16:46:16
And with more planned that even had thier minis previewed at gencon once.

Actually the biggest complaint from veteran players was that they didnt need more tiles, but they did want new units.

Still, it would be nice to see the tiles as a stand alone product, but sadly, that's out of Avalon Hill's normal niche.

If I wanted anything it would have been larger plate tiles to help set things up.  That was kind of a neat compromise when they did the M:tG version.  They provided a printed paper hex map onto which the tiles could be placed.

If I wanted anything for terrain, it would have been a wider variety of types to really make some interesting fields.

But, otherwise, yeah, more units!  I really liked how they fleshed out their version of Orcs and that wierd zombi-like alien race.  If I recall, I thought they had done a limited run of DnD figures, once, too.
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 20 November 2022, 16:53:02
If I wanted anything it would have been larger plate tiles to help set things up.  That was kind of a neat compromise when they did the M:tG version.  They provided a printed paper hex map onto which the tiles could be placed.

I've actually been meaning to get a neoprene mat with a printed 1.75" hex pattern on it to use as a base for our heroscape tiles
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: Daemion on 20 November 2022, 17:00:16
It's a good start.

(Aside: I'd been meaning to get a neoprene map with 8cm hexes so I could do a proper Catan set-up with Seafarers.  And one with 4.5 inch hexes for BattleTech properly scaled to the Mech minis.

That hasn't worked out.)
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: DarkSpade on 20 November 2022, 21:18:15
If I recall, I thought they had done a limited run of DnD figures, once, too.

Yes they did.  Marked the beginning of the end for Scape.  Hasbro realized the game had become more than just something they dropped in the toy aisle and forget about.  The fan run tournaments were becoming sizable events at gencon.  They figured it would be better off in the care of the recently bought Wizards of the Coast.  The powers to be at WotC went, "what the hell?  This isn't D&D or Magic!" and then promptly tanked the game.  Many of the game's final minis were just re-based figures from the recently dead D&D skirmish game.  It's really obvious which were too because they're in a clearly different scale than the rest of the Heroscape minis.
Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: Daemion on 20 November 2022, 22:03:20
I thought so.  I was hoping to get those to fill in my collection, but I missed out.
Between myself and two other friends, we had almost the whole collection, sans the DnD figures.  One guy even had the Marvel Box. 

And, what's really neat is that the dice system was that used in the old HeroQuest game, but streamlined on the dice.

Title: Re: Heroscape is coming back! (That means the tiles too!)
Post by: deogg on 16 April 2023, 21:29:36
Just as a heads up, the Magic: The Gathering board games use some Heroscape tiles in them. Nowhere near as many as what comes in a Heroscape boxed set, but it's something.