Statting the "Viper"

[Empyrus]

So, as part of this thread, it became apparent there was that one 'Mech was omitted from original Battletech, called the Viper. It was used for the outline of damage diagram in the record sheet in the early editions though.
I'll add the pic as attachment.

I started wondering, what kind of stats it could have?

Here's what i came up with:

Weight i chose pretty arbitrarily at 60 tons. It doesn't look lighter but neither does it look like an assault 'Mech. Since it is very reminiscent of the Crusader, i decided it would be lighter, hell, this would make for a good backstory, as being a predecessor to the Crusader (hence intro date). I think it could've been used during the Reunification War but issues with the 'Mech led to creation of the Crusader as an improved version.
Because the original 14 don't include a jump-capable heavy outside variants, i gave this 4/6/4 mobility, with jump jets split between torsos and legs.
Armament looks like being concentrated to arms, though the torso has points that could be lasers. So, each arm has a SRM-6 with ton of ammo in the adjacent torso, along with a flamer. Each side torso has a medium laser, and the center torso has two small lasers.
For cooling, i decided to go nuts due to its rather lackluster armament, so 8 extra heat sinks. This required sacrificing a bit of armor, but 11.5 tons is really solid for this weight class. I put good amount of armor to arms and legs as they look well armored.

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Viper VP-1

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Introductory
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-E-D-A
Production Year: 2581
Cost: 4 870 560 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1 160

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 240 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 43,2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64,8 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 120 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor
Armament:
    2  SRM-6s
    2  Medium Lasers
    2  Small Lasers
    2  Flamers
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      99 points                6,00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                240                      11,50
    Walking MP: 4
    Running MP: 6
    Jumping MP: 4 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL                             4,00
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             18                        8,00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 HD, 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL
Gyro:               Standard                                               3,00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3,00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 184                 11,50

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     20           27       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  8         
                                           L/R Torso     14           18       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  7         
                                             L/R Arm     10           20       
                                             L/R Leg     14           25       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SRM-6                                        RA        4         2         3,00
Flamer                                       RA        3         1         1,00
SRM-6                                        LA        4         2         3,00
Flamer                                       LA        3         1         1,00
Medium Laser                                 RT        3         1         1,00
Medium Laser                                 LT        3         1         1,00
2 Small Lasers                               CT        2         2         1,00
@SRM-6 (15)                                  RT        -         1         1,00
@SRM-6 (15)                                  LT        -         1         1,00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 22

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 12
4j         3       3       0       0      3     0   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, SRM 1/1/0


[Hellraiser]

I think I'd go with LRM10's in the Shoulders since its the early Crusader.

Also the wrists clearly show 2 barrel ends so I'd make that double ML's in each Arm.

I'm unsure what to make of the side torso "Squares",  There really isn't anything in L1 tech that calls out to be used there.

I guess check the remaining tonnage after paying for the LRMs but I think you'd be fine with leaving those as just stylized armor ports or HS vents.

4 ML isn't bad at all, matches the Catapult but with a better heat curve & armor I think.

[Empyrus]

Some variants:

Simple Royal upgrade that served for a short while:
Using ferro-fibrous armor, CASE was added to each side torso.

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Viper VP-1b

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/D-F-D-A
Production Year: 2590
Cost: 5 182 560 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1 208

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 240 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 43,2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64,8 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 120 meters
Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous w/ CASE
Armament:
    2  SRM-6s
    2  Medium Lasers
    2  Small Lasers
    2  Flamers
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      99 points                6,00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                240                      11,50
    Walking MP: 4
    Running MP: 6
    Jumping MP: 4 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL                             4,00
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             18                        8,00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 HD, 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL
Gyro:               Standard                                               3,00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3,00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 188                 10,50
    Armor Locations: 4 LT, 4 RT, 3 LA, 3 RA
    CASE Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT                                             1,00

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     20           27       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  8         
                                           L/R Torso     14           18       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  7         
                                             L/R Arm     10           20       
                                             L/R Leg     14           27       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SRM-6                                        RA        4         2         3,00
Flamer                                       RA        3         1         1,00
SRM-6                                        LA        4         2         3,00
Flamer                                       LA        3         1         1,00
Medium Laser                                 RT        3         1         1,00
Medium Laser                                 LT        3         1         1,00
2 Small Lasers                               CT        2         2         1,00
@SRM-6 (15)                                  RT        -         1         1,00
@SRM-6 (15)                                  LT        -         1         1,00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 6

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 12
4j         3       3       0       0      3     0   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, SRM 1/1/0



I figure that perhaps the Viper survived the Star League and the Succession Wars. If so, and if it served in large enough numbers, or perhaps being put back into production, it would get an upgraded version in 3040s.
The Viper's role would be heavy ECM-support platform. Endo-steel is used to free weight for upgrades, with the ECM suite itself being placed to right torso. SRM-6s are replaced with 2 Streak-2s in each arm, their ammo moved to left torso and CASEd. The small lasers got upgraded to small pulse lasers.

My intent here was to emulate the haphazard TRO3050 "upgrades". Figure i accomplished that reasonably, striking balance between OK and "uh ok".

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Viper VP-2

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-F-E-A
Production Year: 3047
Cost: 5 240 960 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1 272

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 240 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 43,2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64,8 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 120 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor w/ CASE
Armament:
    2  Medium Lasers
    4  Streak SRM-2s
    2  Small Pulse Lasers
    2  Flamers
    1  Guardian ECM Suite
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    99 points                3,00
    Internal Locations: 4 LT, 4 RT, 3 LA, 3 RA
Engine:             Fusion Engine                240                      11,50
    Walking MP: 4
    Running MP: 6
    Jumping MP: 4 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL                             4,00
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             18                        8,00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 HD, 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL
Gyro:               Standard                                               3,00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3,00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 184                 11,50
    CASE Locations: 1 LT                                                   0,50

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     20           27       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  8         
                                           L/R Torso     14           18       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  7         
                                             L/R Arm     10           20       
                                             L/R Leg     14           25       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Flamer                                       RA        3         1         1,00
2 Streak SRM-2s                              RA        4         2         3,00
Flamer                                       LA        3         1         1,00
2 Streak SRM-2s                              LA        4         2         3,00
Medium Laser                                 RT        3         1         1,00
Guardian ECM Suite                           RT        0         2         1,50
Medium Laser                                 LT        3         1         1,00
2 Small Pulse Lasers                         CT        4         2         2,00
@Streak SRM-2 (100)                          LT        -         2         2,00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 5

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 13
4j         3       2       0       0      3     1   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: ECM, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA



[Empyrus]

I think I'd go with LRM10's in the Shoulders since its the early Crusader.

Also the wrists clearly show 2 barrel ends so I'd make that double ML's in each Arm.

I'm unsure what to make of the side torso "Squares",  There really isn't anything in L1 tech that calls out to be used there.

I guess check the remaining tonnage after paying for the LRMs but I think you'd be fine with leaving those as just stylized armor ports or HS vents.

4 ML isn't bad at all, matches the Catapult but with a better heat curve & armor I think.

Oh, didn't even think of LRM-10s. Maybe a variant with those...
I figured the "barrel ends" could be missiles, hence SRMs which are individually larger than LRMs are.

Didn't want 4xML and missiles as it'd be too similar to the Catapult. Though i will admit the Crusader isn't that different as a whole...

The good thing about vague art is that you can justify weird shapes and things as you wish :P

[Empyrus]

One more, a hypothetical "Project Phoenix" variant.

Mostly an upgrade with modern tech rather than radical reworking. Endo-steel stays, but a light fusion engine is used as well. Double heat sinks are used. Freed tonnage was used to add armor, swap the flamers for MPLs, lasers are upgraded to ER models, SRMs to Streak-6s, C3 Slave was added. Finally, the 'Mech got MASC as well, making it highly mobile, even if it can't both run and jump at once.

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Viper VP-3

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3067
Cost: 10 537 760 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1 740

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 240 Light Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 43,2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64,8 km/h (86,4 km/h)
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 120 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor w/ CASE
Armament:
    2  Streak SRM-6s
    2  ER Medium Lasers
    2  Medium Pulse Lasers
    2  ER Small Lasers
    1  Guardian ECM Suite
    1  C3 Computer (Slave)
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    99 points                3,00
    Internal Locations: 3 LT, 1 RT, 5 LA, 5 RA
Engine:             Light Fusion Engine          240                       9,00
    Walking MP: 4
    Running MP: 6 (8)
    Jumping MP: 4 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 2 LL, 2 RL                                         4,00
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             11(22)                    1,00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT
Gyro:               Standard                                               3,00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3,00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 201                 13,00
    CASE Locations: 1 LT                                                   0,50

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     20           31       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  9         
                                           L/R Torso     14           20       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  8         
                                             L/R Arm     10           20       
                                             L/R Leg     14           28       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Streak SRM-6                                 RA        4         2         4,50
Medium Pulse Laser                           RA        4         1         2,00
Streak SRM-6                                 LA        4         2         4,50
Medium Pulse Laser                           LA        4         1         2,00
ER Medium Laser                              RT        5         1         1,00
Guardian ECM Suite                           RT        0         2         1,50
MASC                                         RT        -         3         3,00
ER Medium Laser                              LT        5         1         1,00
2 ER Small Lasers                            CT        4         2         1,00
C3 Computer (Slave)                          HD        0         1         1,00
@Streak SRM-6 (30)                           LT        -         2         2,00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 0

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      7    Points: 17
5/4j       4       4       0       0      3     2   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: ECM, C3S, CASE, MHQ1, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA



[Giovanni Blasini]

Torso squares could be justified as searchlights.

Forearms could mount the Crusader weaponry  and I definitely dig the jumping movement.    About to head to Disneyland, but part of me is wondering about making it a 5/8/5 55-tonner, so its weight is smack dab in between the Phoenix Hawk and Crusader, with two medium lasers in each arm, SRM-4s in the legs, and a bunch of heat sinks.

[Empyrus]

Yet another 55-tonner? Are the Wolverine, Shadow Hawk, and Griffin not enough ;D

I did consider 5/8 60 tonner, dropping heat sinks and maybe armor would allow that easily. But i think it might be similar to some of the Ost 'Mechs then.

[Giovanni Blasini]

It also works as a 60-tonner, if not quite as efficient:

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 Viper VP-1
 3025 IS Heavy

Original:  http://battletech.rpg.hu/mechfactory_frame.php?call=displaymech&id=10000008

Source: My Own Custom /
Type/Model: Viper VP-1
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3025
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 1, Standard design

Mass: 60 tons
Chassis:
Power Plant: 300 Fusion
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Running Speed: 86.4 km/h
Jump Jets: 5 Standard Jump Jet
Jump Capacity: 150 meters
Jump Jet Manufacturer:
Armor Type:  Standard
Armament:
 1 Small Laser
 2 Medium Laser
 1 SRM 4
 2 Medium Laser
 1 SRM 4
Manufacturer:
 Location:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

   
---------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:  Viper VP-1
Mass: 60 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  99 pts Standard               0      6.00
Engine:        300 Fusion                    6     19.00
   Walking MP:   5
   Running MP:   8
   Jumping MP:   5
Heat Sinks:     12 Single                    2      2.00
Gyro:                                        4      3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H               8      0.00
Armor Factor:  197 Standard                  0     12.50

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9
   Center Torso:             20         31
   Center Torso (Rear):                  9
   L/R Side Torso:           14      23/23
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              5/5
   L/R Arm:                  10      19/19
   L/R Leg:                  14      27/27
 
Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits     Mass
---------------------------------------------------------
1 Small Laser            HD       1           1      0.50
2 Medium Laser           LA       6           2      2.00
1 SRM 4                  LL       3           1      2.00
2 Medium Laser           RA       6           2      2.00
1 SRM 4                  RL       3   25      2      3.00
   (Ammo Locations: 1 CT)
5 Standard Jump Jets:    -        0           5      5.00
   (Jump Jet Loc: 1 CT,2 LT,2 RT)
---------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                          19           5     14.50
Crits and Tons Left:                         32             
 
Calculated Factors
Total Cost:        5,489,360 C-Bill
Battle Value (BV1):1097
Battle Value (BV2):1402 

[Hellraiser]

I thought about Gio's suggestion myself, but, 60 tons 5-8-5 w/ hands armed with ML, SRM/LRM,  it just felt too Quickdraw to me.

I like the 4-6-4 movement of the OP, its not a common curve in 3025 Heavies.   

Though as I mentioned above, I think I'd put twin ML's in the arms.

Its a solid set up able to shoot in any direction with more than the "typical" 1 ML in the arms or 0 that we see in a lot of 3025 models.

[David CGB]

It also works as a 60-tonner, if not quite as efficient:

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 Viper VP-1
 3025 IS Heavy

Original:  http://battletech.rpg.hu/mechfactory_frame.php?call=displaymech&id=10000008

Source: My Own Custom /
Type/Model: Viper VP-1
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3025
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 1, Standard design

Mass: 60 tons
Chassis:
Power Plant: 300 Fusion
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Running Speed: 86.4 km/h
Jump Jets: 5 Standard Jump Jet
Jump Capacity: 150 meters
Jump Jet Manufacturer:
Armor Type:  Standard
Armament:
 1 Small Laser
 2 Medium Laser
 1 SRM 4
 2 Medium Laser
 1 SRM 4
Manufacturer:
 Location:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

   
---------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:  Viper VP-1
Mass: 60 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  99 pts Standard               0      6.00
Engine:        300 Fusion                    6     19.00
   Walking MP:   5
   Running MP:   8
   Jumping MP:   5
Heat Sinks:     12 Single                    2      2.00
Gyro:                                        4      3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H               8      0.00
Armor Factor:  197 Standard                  0     12.50

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9
   Center Torso:             20         31
   Center Torso (Rear):                  9
   L/R Side Torso:           14      23/23
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              5/5
   L/R Arm:                  10      19/19
   L/R Leg:                  14      27/27
 
Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits     Mass
---------------------------------------------------------
1 Small Laser            HD       1           1      0.50
2 Medium Laser           LA       6           2      2.00
1 SRM 4                  LL       3           1      2.00
2 Medium Laser           RA       6           2      2.00
1 SRM 4                  RL       3   25      2      3.00
   (Ammo Locations: 1 CT)
5 Standard Jump Jets:    -        0           5      5.00
   (Jump Jet Loc: 1 CT,2 LT,2 RT)
---------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                          19           5     14.50
Crits and Tons Left:                         32             
 
Calculated Factors
Total Cost:        5,489,360 C-Bill
Battle Value (BV1):1097
Battle Value (BV2):1402 

Great mech for urban attacks

[Sabelkatten]

Looking at it I'd add a completely unused weight slot to the originals: 40 tons, 5/8/5. 8 tons armor. 13 SHS. All the weapons in the arms: 2 MLs, 1 MG, 1 SRM2 in each. 1 ton MG ammo in the RT, 1 ton SRM ammo in the CT.

[packhntr]

I always thought that one (the drawing) was the one referred to as a Chameleon.  I will have to go through all of my old stuff from the '80s and see if I can find references.

[Empyrus]

I always thought that one (the drawing) was the one referred to as a Chameleon.  I will have to go through all of my old stuff from the '80s and see if I can find references.

The Chameleon's original art is featured in 2nd edition manual, and it got newer art in TRO3058. It is quite different looking 'Mech from this one.

The pic in this thread, and from the thread were it came up, is from Blaine Lee Pardoe's archives.

[packhntr]

The Chameleon's original art is featured in 2nd edition manual, and it got newer art in TRO3058. It is quite different looking 'Mech from this one.

The pic in this thread, and from the thread were it came up, is from Blaine Lee Pardoe's archives.

Thanks...I'll have to look at my 3058...been a LONG time since I looked at it.....gotta find it!

[Empyrus]

Thanks...I'll have to look at my 3058...been a LONG time since I looked at it.....gotta find it!

Easier to look at Sarna:
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Chameleon
The main image is the 3058 art, the gallery's first pic is the original Chameleon.

[Maingunnery]

I always thought that it had a large barrel in each arm.

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Viper LL

Mass: 65 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-E-D-A
Production Year: 2750
Cost: 5.517.710 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1.340

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 260 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 43,2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64,8 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 120 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor
Armament:
    2  Large Lasers
    2  SRM-6s
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                     104 points                6,50
Engine:             Fusion Engine                260                      13,50
    Walking MP: 4
    Running MP: 6
    Jumping MP: 4 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL                             4,00
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             14                        4,00
    Heat Sink Locations: 2 CT, 1 LL, 1 RL
Gyro:               Standard                                               3,00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3,00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 208                 13,00

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     21           32       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  9         
                                           L/R Torso     15           22       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  8         
                                             L/R Arm     10           20       
                                             L/R Leg     15           29       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SRM-6                                        RT        4         2         3,00
SRM-6                                        LT        4         2         3,00
Large Laser                                  RA        8         2         5,00
Large Laser                                  LA        8         2         5,00
@SRM-6 (15)                                  RT        -         1         1,00
@SRM-6 (15)                                  LT        -         1         1,00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 29

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      7    Points: 13
4j         2       2       0       0      3     1   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, SRM 1/1/0


[Giovanni Blasini]

Now that I like!

[Hellraiser]

Its like a baby Thug.

Though I would suggest SRM4's & more SHS.

[Maingunnery]

Its like a baby Thug.

Though I would suggest SRM4's & more SHS.

Good idea.

And the royal version could retain the SRM6s, while upgrading to have DHS, ERLLs, Ferro & CASE.