Soliciting proposals - sell me on canon short-lived/failed states!

[worktroll]

So as some of you know I paint combined-arms battalion units for fun. Done 58 of them in the last 7 years or so.

There is a Grand Plan - initially one unit per major IS house, Periphery state, C*/WOB (inc RoTS ;) ), favoured Clans (Smoke Jaguars and Jade Falcons), and "other Clans" per major era. This plan is well in progress.

I recently did a battalion for the St Ives Lancers in the SIC era, and followed up with forces of the Tikonov Free Republic. Which connected in my mind with the FRR unit I did many years ago. Here's a new category - "Failed states!" (okay, add short-lived ;) )

So, moving forward, I need to identify failed/short-lived states who
- existed in a given period
- supported 'Mech, vehicle & infantry forces of at least battalion total size
- preferably have a canon paintscheme.

I'm specifically interested in such states in the Jihad, early & late Republic eras, or the Dark Age - while I've got representatives for the earlier periods, I'm not afraid to have two if I like the sound of it.

These don't have to be nice people. Oh, no (says WoB's Risk & Compliance manager for the APAC region  >:D ) But it doesn't hurt either way.

I'll toss out some names - Illyrian Palatinate. Fronc Reaches. Empire of Hall? Don't be limited by these. The main Periphery states are in a different part of the Plan - currently have done Taurian, Marian, and Magistracy forces.

But any & all information, opinion, and discussion on viable unviable states in these periods, or others, most welcome!

Cheers, and thanks in advance.

[Daryk]

I don't know if they had an official paint scheme, but Lothian League!  :thumbsup:

[BairdEC]

There's the Aurigan Coalition.... Maybe a bit early for your preferences.

[worktroll]

The Lothians ... yes, they could work well in the late Republic/DA era. And would justify non-standard armour units ;) Keep'em coming!

Is there a canon scheme for the Aurigans? Is it in the Report that got published? Would make it worth buying if it had details on the armed forces.

[Weirdo]

Before the requested time period, but for flash-in-the-pan, how about the Empire of Stephan Amaris VII? :D

For newer...what about the Kaumberg Archonette, and/or their Democracy Now nemeses?

[Daryk]

Darn, I was thinking the 3025 version of the Lothians...  :-\

[worktroll]

Any evidence they had 'Mechs back then?

[Daryk]

Dame Lorelei Logan dipped deeply into the Lothian treasury to hire additional mercenary units, and her daughter Liesel led a small Home Guard BattleMech unit against the invaders with astonishing success.

Sarna mentions the above as of 3054, and it seems odd they wouldn't have existed before then.  They had two battalions of mercenaries earlier, and it would only make sense to have native BattleMechs to counterbalance any aspirations to rule they would have had.

[Scotty]

The Buena Collective!

[HABeas2]

Before the requested time period, but for flash-in-the-pan, how about the Empire of Stephan Amaris VII? :D

For newer...what about the Kaumberg Archonette, and/or their Democracy Now nemeses?

Kaumberg Archonette may work, but Democracy Now was a rebel group with no established color scheme; they hired mercs and pirates.

- Herb

[BairdEC]

The Lothians ... yes, they could work well in the late Republic/DA era. And would justify non-standard armour units ;) Keep'em coming!

Is there a canon scheme for the Aurigans? Is it in the Report that got published? Would make it worth buying if it had details on the armed forces.

Y'know, I thought it had, but looking again, all it has is an illustration of a Thunderbolt and a quick mention much later of red and gold.

[Nav_Alpha]

There’s the short lived Malagrotta Cooperative, which broke away from the FedSuns during the Jihad and got mostly gobbled up by pirates, with the remains eventually rejoining the Suns.

[Nastyogre]

Does the Calderon Protectorate paint themselves differently than the Concordant?
Duchy of Andurien?
Filvelt?
Circinus Confederation?
Rim Terriories? (I'm not sure there is enough info to paint them)

[SteelRaven]

While non of really established their own state before the Great Houses started going all in once again, some of the break away factions within the Republic had some fun units. I'm actually going to miss the 'Raiders as there are very few Corporate funded Mercenary groups in the BTU.

[Colt Ward]

For short lived . . . Free Star Republic

Yes, the Aurigan Coalition scheme is described, and even Royal is pictured IIRC.

[Kojak]

How about the Galatean Defense League?

[Kojak]

A few more:

- Republic Remnant
- Vegan Protectorate
- Duchy of Small
- Styk Commonality
- Sarna Supremacy
- Saiph Triumvirate
- Sirian Holds
- Terracap Confederation

[Chinless]

Well, in no particular order - and mostly outwith the dates/areas you wanted - then the following states haven't been mentioned so far.

United Hindu Collective
Finmark Free Republic
Oberon Confederation - the 2775-2796 version which later failed.
Terran Hegemony Remnants - Alliance Core, Lone Star Province, Lockdale Province, New Dallas Province, Brownsville Province.
Federated Commonwealth
Brotherhood of Azami
Chainelaine Isles

Former Free Worlds League provinces - Marik-Stewart Commonwealth, Principality of Regulus, Duchy of Oriente, Duchy of Andurien, Duchy of Graham-Marik, The Protectorate, Regulan Free States, Mosiro Archipelago, Duchy of Tamarind, Rim Commonality, Silver Hawk Coalition.

Added to that you have the later 3130 provinces which had swalled up some of the smaller states, so the Marik-Stewart Commonwealth, Regulan Fiefs, Oriente Protectorate, Duchy of Tamarind-Abbey.

Things change again come 3145 and the reformed FLW with the addition of Clan Protectorate, Covenant Worlds and the Augustine Alliance.

Chris

[Charlie Tango]

One of my personal favorites, the Tikonov Free Republic.

[worktroll]

Just did tyhem, CT! Check the mimi forums.

[MoleMan]

Does anyone know of an orange and green colour scheme for any unit?

[AldanFerrox]

United Hindu Collective

The collective existed for over 300 years, so I don't think that you could call it short-lived.

[Mendrugo]

Chainlane Isles subfactions:

Far Reach Collective
Empire of the Stars
Florenzo Consortium
Hanju Imperium
Helena Collective
Rondane Syndicate
Paran Free System
Vannite Pirate Kingdom
Duchy of Vendome

Throughout the Chainlane Isles, 'Mechs are present, but rare, and supported by mostly conventional forces, with occasional stiffening by slumming mercenary bands.

[Liam's Ghost]

The Nation of Hastur.

You could always say the clans only thought they got them all during Klondike.  ;D

[glitterboy2098]

There's the Aurigan Coalition.... Maybe a bit early for your preferences.

i'm considering working up my IS mech kickstarter rewards as a "Aurigan Coalition In Exile" Merc unit (since i've been using the dark ages period for my AS forces.. and the Coalition territory is now owned by the Capellans by the 3130's). probably will be pairing it with the mass of microarmor tanks i have to fill out points.

[Schwerpunkt Prinzip]

The Nation of Hastur.

I second this suggestion—any Pentagon Power during Operation KLONDIKE. These powers would fit the Succession War era of your grand plan, quiaff?

[Jellico]

The Ragnarök Union
Republic of the Barrens
Ferris Collective

[JPArbiter]

Clan Burrock

[BATTLEMASTER]

Clan Burrock

I'll raise you a Clan Jade Wolf  :D

[OpacusVenatori]

Not a state per se, but the Wors of Blake were a independent force from 3050 to 3085.

[SteelRaven]

I'll raise you a Clan Jade Wolf  :D

As a fan of the Refusal War, I second this ;D

Not a state per se, but the Word of Blake were a independent force from 3050 to 3085.

C* and the WoB are both mentioned in the OP.

[worktroll]

Did the Jade Wolves last long enough to get repainted? Or would it be enough to take a classic Wolf scheme, like Beta's brown and grey, and add some jade trim?

And yes, I have C*/WoB/RotS as a single "entity" in my grand plan ;)

[Weirdo]

You want flash in the pan? Go for the Free Star Republic! :D

[SteelRaven]

Did the Jade Wolves last long enough to get repainted? Or would it be enough to take a classic Wolf scheme, like Beta's brown and grey, and add some jade trim?

Hyper technicality is that the Post-Refusal War Crusader Wolves are the Jade Wolves, they just dropped the Jade part.

Everyone just likes the idea of the Wolves with more Jade Falcon trimmings. It's like Peanut Butter and Chocolate, it goes together better than it should;

[Colt Ward]

Everyone just likes the idea of the Wolves with more Jade Falcon kills.

FTFY

[SteelRaven]

FTFY

... You know, that does work better.
 :thumbsup:

[BATTLEMASTER]

You want flash in the pan? Go for the Free Star Republic! :D

They existed long enough for Defiance Industries to design and build a battlemech for them.  But if they had MegaMekLab or Solaris Skunk Werks to design the thing quickly, I guess the Free Star Republic truly was a flash in a pan!

Did the Jade Wolves last long enough to get repainted? Or would it be enough to take a classic Wolf scheme, like Beta's brown and grey, and add some jade trim?

If painting equipment in the 31st century is anything like painting stuff now, I doubt anything was re-painted.  So you could re-use your existing touman units!

[SteelRaven]

If painting equipment in the 31st century is anything like painting stuff now, I doubt anything was re-painted.  So you could re-use your existing touman units!

Cool detail on the original cover of Malicious Intent, you can clearly see the Jade Falcon emblem is painted over the old Clan Wolf emblem.
https://cfw.sarna.net/wiki/images/b/bf/Malicious_Intent.jpg?timestamp=20100825193041   

[DOC_Agren]

You want flash in the pan? Go for the Free Star Republic! :D

I hate to say this but who are they?

[Weirdo]

They're from one of the GDL novels, Operation Excalibur. An attempt to carve a new nation out of Hesperus and a few surrounding systems. It lasted roughly a week.

[Deadborder]

Bannson's Raiders held a number of worlds for a couple of years from 3133-3135. So there you have a short-lived corporate state

[Cannonshop]

St. Ives Compact.

[Natasha Kerensky]

They're from one of the GDL novels, Operation Excalibur. An attempt to carve a new nation out of Hesperus and a few surrounding systems. It lasted roughly a week.

That’s the Free Star Republic referenced upthread.  They were publicly active for a month, but they had dropships painted in their own colors at the outset, which indicates that preparations were underway for some time prior.  That prep might have allowed for a mech paint scheme, but I dunno if it’s referenced in the relevant novel or the associated GDL scenario pack.  Certainly not on Camospecs.

As already mentioned, they were the first users of the Defiance battlemech, giving their forces a little uniqueness.

[Hawk]

I would say the United Hindu Collective, but I didn't see a canon paint scheme for their Battlemech/Aerospace regiment.

[Charistoph]

I wonder if Clan Snord would fit in to this category...

[NutritiousSlop]

I second this suggestion—any Pentagon Power during Operation KLONDIKE. These powers would fit the Succession War era of your grand plan, quiaff?

My biggest disappointment with the Operation Klondike book was the lack of fluff about the warring nation-states.  The most we got was a sentence or two, with next to nothing about their color schemes or social beliefs (ie, how did the Levic Ascendancy succeed, what were these brutal techno-barbarian wars like, did any of these proto-states have any lasting effects on Clan space, etc).  The Camospecs examples were cool, but ultimately not enough. 

[worktroll]

Anyone got colour schemes for the Lothian League or Illyrian Palatinate?

[Daryk]

I vaguely remember something yellow for the Illyrians, but am drawing a complete blank on the Lothians, unfortunately.

[Mendrugo]

You couldn’t go wrong with arctic camo, since all Lothian worlds are essentially Hoth.

[worktroll]

Hmmm ... USDCWT snow, temperate plains, might be doable. Arctic MERDC came out ... too well; the mini didn't look good.

[Cache]

There are other arctic-looking camo patterns that work on large machines... https://theaviationist.com/2012/02/05/red-air/

[worktroll]

I did splinter for my FRR battalion. it came out OK, but ... drove me mad. Trying to get all those sharp edges ... gah.

Pity there's no other way to canonise a scheme than to become a CSO artist, which I know I'll never do.

(And no, I try to ignore the UCC; it's a great fan work, just like a fan TRO, but I'll stick to my own knitting ;) )

[Cache]

*actually searches camospecs this time*

Lothian Guard and Punic Legion

[Daryk]

Hmmm... Google failed me when I tried that...

[Cache]

Hmmm... Google failed me when I tried that...

After I didn't see them in the faction listing, I used Camospecs' search. (On my smartphone if that makes a difference. )

[Daryk]

My phone's not that smart...