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Title: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 05 June 2018, 12:27:16
Now w/all-inclusive thread title!

We're creeping up on the end of Spring season now:

Started watching SAO Alternative because of Studio 3Hz & because everyone assured me it wasn't SAO, but it still kind of is. I'll probably at least finish the cour though, since I'm 2/3rds there & I want to see the girl w/grenade launchers in action.

Hinamatsuri's definitely still top of the season. Not sure how much they can accomplish introducing Mao this late in the season, but with the back & forth between the hilarious & heartbreaking gut punches  there's no way I'm getting off this emotional rollercoaster until the end!

Wotakoi & Comic Girls are rounding out my No.2 & No.3. Just good, solid character writing & comedic timing in both.

Loving Invisible Victory thus far, but I'm beginning to worry they'll run out of time to conclude the story at the pace they're going - can Sousuke really sew it all up in 5 episodes?

Darling In The FranXX on the other hand is just kind of underwhelmingly data-dumping its less than inspiring humanist plotline. I had kind of hoped A-1 would bring a bit more gravitas to this project, but the plot is pure Trigger & the straight-laced presentation is not doing it any favors. Stick to the outlandish, guys. It's your one big strength!

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 05 June 2018, 15:40:40
I'm still following Darling in the FranXX, Galactic Heroes, Golden Kamuy, Gun Gale, Hinamatsuri and Gancrest Senki.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 05 June 2018, 17:13:01
I'm impatiently waiting for mid July. Got a bit bored with this season and the waiting for some of the shows I watch. Ended up binge watcing KONOSUBA, Gate, Snow White with the Red Hair, The World Is Still Beautiful, and Maoyu.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 05 June 2018, 17:58:14
What are you looking forward to next season PhoenixStorm? This summer is looking like one of the most boring anime seasons in years to me at the moment. What's good?  ;)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 05 June 2018, 18:13:55
Next season of Overlord.

Rumor has it that filler from the next few books will be cut to cover 7-10. Really want to see how they do the big battle on the plains (v7 or 8?) and the tomb exploration from beginning of v7. Don't follow the news much so don't really know what else is coming out.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Dies Irae on 05 June 2018, 18:32:57
I'm following this list:
Hisone to Masotan (Dragon Pilot: Hisone and Masotan)
Piano no Mori (The Forest Piano: The Perfect World of Kai)
Boku no Hero Academia (My Hero Academia)
Wotaku ni Koi wa Muzukashii (WotaKoi: Love is Hard for Otaku)
Darling in the FranXX
Juushinki Pandora (Unit Pandora)
Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu: Die Neue These (The Legend of the Galactic Heroes: The New Thesis)
Uchuu Senkan Tiramisù (Space Battleship Tiramisu)

Hisone to Masotan is shaping up quietly to be the sleeper hit of the season for me. It's a robustly written coming-of-age story with just enough absurdist elements (in the form of transforming dragon aircraft), a likable cast and a surprisingly realistic, if sleepy military setting that scratches an itch I've been struggling with for a while.

Piano no Mori has off-putting CGI sequences with a slight uncanny valley effect whenever someone touches the piano, but the score is soul-crushingly beautiful. I hear a lot of complaints from fans of the manga that they're rushing it, but given the heroic attempt to transpose 241 chapters into 24 episodes, I can't blame them. It's a story focusing on two friends, Kai Ichinose -  a rough and tumble kid from a red light district who happens to be a piano prodigy, and Shuuhei Amamiya - a technically excellent pianist saddled with the burden of carrying on the family music tradition, and the one sided rivalry that slowly develops as one finds himself threatened by the other's meteoric rise.

Juushinki Pandora has the ingredients to be an excellent mecha show and has an interesting setting underpinning, but it's been content to wallow at the kids end of the pool and shows no interest in kicking off. As a two cour show carrying into next season, I'm not sure if I have the patience to stick with it much longer.

Uchuu Senkan Tiramisù is a 7 minute episodic shitpost about a socially maladjusted hikkomori openly masquerading as a mecha show. It surprisingly has a deeper underlying plot, which it actively derails to focus on the protagonist's hijinks, playing genre tropes fast and furious to comedic effect. The 7 minute episode run time keeps the jokes punchy and even if it occasionally wanders into cringe territory, the format keeps it from overstaying its welcome. It's highly recommended. Also, without further context, this is probably the first (and only time) a drifting zero-g pubic hair is best supporting character.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 06 June 2018, 07:45:04
So decide to look into the summer season and found a few I might give a whirl

FLCL Progressive - Looks goofy but might make for a good watch. Will give it an easy 3 episodes to pull me in.
Isekai Maou to Shoukan Shoujo no Dorei Majutsu - Story sounds interesting and for the most part I usually like this genre.
High Score Girl - Looks like it might be a cute little comedy.
Tenrou: Sirius the Jaeger - Vampires and Werewolves oh my! Might be interesting, worth a look I guess.
Sunoharasou no Kanrinin-san - Slice of life and comedy. Another genre I enjoy. Will try it out.

There are a few others I might check out the first episode for such as Island.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: VhenRa on 06 June 2018, 08:42:16
Loving Invisible Victory thus far, but I'm beginning to worry they'll run out of time to conclude the story at the pace they're going - can Sousuke really sew it all up in 5 episodes?

Current rate... I think they are gonna need another cour.

They are almost done with Novel 8 (Burning One Man Force), they went through Novel 7 (Continuing On My Own) in 4 episodes, looks like they will be done with 8 after the next episode. Episode 9-12 will probably cover Novel 9 (Come Make My Day) and there is 3 more novels.

The OP for the show covers events from Novels 7-9.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 06 June 2018, 08:51:57
I have been trying desperately keep up with new releases. Here my aspiration of stuff i want see.

However, I'm trying keep watching

Future Shows i'm going watch in Summer

Couple i've left out, is Zoid Wild. I'm heavily concern this is going be not good continuation of the franchise. I didn't like character designs, and throw back to older version zoids when their impossibly mineral-base lifeforms who don't mind being used as riding-Mecha in a pokemon sort way. Banana Fish - Looks to of making of a good crime drama, but i'm not really into that stuff. Its similar in mentality like Gangster, but i can't say i've seen more than write up about it. Kakuriyo no Yadomeshi - I may check this out, but i'm not dedicating to it. This is about a Demon (more a supernatural person) who wants pays off his family debt and ends up working Bed & Breakfast. I think it's comedy as well as supernatural sort of thing.

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 06 June 2018, 08:56:08
Just started season three.

Well, that escalated quickly.
  Did you watch The Quest for the Six Dofus Eliatropes first? Because it set things up for Season 3
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 06 June 2018, 09:37:41
Current rate... I think they are gonna need another cour.....

The OP for the show covers events from Novels 7-9.

Man, I really hope they get one then!  :-\
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Maingunnery on 06 June 2018, 11:09:33

My current watch list:

Hisone to Masotan
Darling in the FranXX
Full Metal Panic! Invisible Victory
Legend of the Galactic Heroes - Die Neue These
Sword Art Online Alternative - Gun Gale Online
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 06 June 2018, 11:13:37
*chuckles* I found the Wakfu MMORPG trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRWDgzmyJWk
Hmm I would like to see video shorts of those four characters.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 06 June 2018, 11:41:30
  Did you watch The Quest for the Six Dofus Eliatropes first? Because it set things up for Season 3

No.  Is that available on Netflix?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 06 June 2018, 12:54:50
Isekai Maou to Shoukan Shoujo no Dorei Majutsu - Comedy -This Isekai show, based on manga I've been reading of guy who summoned as his character to a fantasy world by two girls who were to enslave him, but he turns out his game persona is wee bit too powerful for them.
Is that How to not summon demon lord (or something like that)? I've read manga a bit, but I lost interest. I find How to build a dungeon: Book of a demon king much more interesting. When is next translated volume due... end of August. That long... :(
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 06 June 2018, 13:01:08
Man, I really hope they get one then!  :-\
Well, nine ends on a... reasonably not unhappy note? Something of an invisible victory? And 10-12 all tell a self-contained story, so having it as its own cour would make sense. As long as they don't take another what, THIRTEEN YEARS to do it?

At this rate, maybe we'll get the Intrigues of Suzumiya Haruhi in 2021. Still MY favorite story from that series.


So I decided to start Overlord, binged it with my wife, and my only complaint is this:

Two loli vampires.

I like lolis, and I enjoy the 'immortal loli' archetype, but dammit no story needs two of them.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 06 June 2018, 15:55:40
Yeah, at least the second loli vamp isn't around that often. The one thing I did like about her is the age of the character and that she has a real history to her.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 06 June 2018, 17:08:59
No.  Is that available on Netflix?
Wakfu: The Quest for the Six Eliatrope Dofus
And yes it is available. It set up Season 3.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 06 June 2018, 17:39:00
So what's the timeline for Wakfu, anyway?

Season 1 took about a year to complete, and there seems to be a jump of several months to Season 2.  Then Season 3 seems to be something like 10-12 years later, based on the apparent age of the children.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 06 June 2018, 19:59:26
Is that How to not summon demon lord (or something like that)? I've read manga a bit, but I lost interest. I find How to build a dungeon: Book of a demon king much more interesting. When is next translated volume due... end of August. That long... :(
After relooking it up, How to not summon demon lord is what's being called now for western audiences.

I admit that the it's properly going be maybe a hair better than In Another World with a Smart Phone.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 06 June 2018, 20:01:26
I see that the anime adaption for Goblin Slayer will be out in the Fall season.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 06 June 2018, 20:49:00
After relooking it up, How to not summon demon lord is what's being called now for western audiences.

I admit that the it's properly going be maybe a hair better than In Another World with a Smart Phone.

How good/bad was In Another World With a Smart Phone?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 06 June 2018, 20:57:32
How good/bad was In Another World With a Smart Phone?

Absolutely awful. The wish fulfillment anime I expect every isekai to be, but this time I wasn't pleasantly surprised. I watched it all the way through just to be polite to Eiji Usatsuka, but it was the worst kind of shallow wish-fulfillment - harem route, all the powers, knows all the spoilers because cell phone, the whole nine yards.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 06 June 2018, 21:26:03
Glad I didn't bother with it, then.

I'm finding that I can't go wrong if choose to avoid isekai, especially if harems are involved.  The Ambition of Oda Nobuna and Outbreak Company being the only two exceptions.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 06 June 2018, 22:33:01
So what's the timeline for Wakfu, anyway?

Season 1 took about a year to complete, and there seems to be a jump of several months to Season 2.  Then Season 3 seems to be something like 10-12 years later, based on the apparent age of the children.
https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=58103.msg1416442#msg1416442
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 06 June 2018, 22:36:41
I'm finding that I can't go wrong if choose to avoid isekai, especially if harems are involved.  The Ambition of Oda Nobuna and Outbreak Company being the only two exceptions.

That's because we're on the trailing edge of the isekai trend now, so it's nearly all derivative crap. Stuff from the 90's & aughts like Rayearth, El Hazard, Escaflowne & Zero no Tsukaima are some of my favorite anime of all time, but I think Re:Zero was the last great isekai anime. Maybe Konosuba, although that's a full-costume parody, really.

The same thing happens to most trends in anime.  There are a few experimental works with the concept that are really good but perhaps go largely unnoticed, followed by a single massive hit, then dozens of blatant imitators. In the end, you'll have a smattering of shows following a paint-by-numbers formula know one even recalls why became the formula in the first place. When it happened with tsunderes, it was awful. I really love tsundere heroines, but if try to write them as just some whiny check-box, you get all of the irritation and 0 charm.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 07 June 2018, 00:12:57
That's because we're on the trailing edge of the isekai trend now, so it's nearly all derivative crap. Stuff from the 90's & aughts like Rayearth, El Hazard, Escaflowne & Zero no Tsukaima are some of my favorite anime of all time, but I think Re:Zero was the last great isekai anime. Maybe Konosuba, although that's a full-costume parody, really.

The same thing happens to most trends in anime.  There are a few experimental works with the concept that are really good but perhaps go largely unnoticed, followed by a single massive hit, then dozens of blatant imitators. In the end, you'll have a smattering of shows following a paint-by-numbers formula know one even recalls why became the formula in the first place. When it happened with tsunderes, it was awful. I really love tsundere heroines, but if try to write them as just some whiny check-box, you get all of the irritation and 0 charm.
Or Rei Ayanami. Good gods, the clones...

But, and let's be honest here, Zero no Tsukaima isn't any better or worse than any of the isekai anime that followed it; it's exactly the same and if it had been released sometime in the last five years would be derided as formulaic and boring. Just because it came up with the formula doesn't mean it has any less of the formula in it - especially because it didn't, as Escaflowne and El-Hazard predate it by some years, and ZnT leans heavily into harem, OP MC, and tropetastic girl formulae as well.

******, El-Hazard. Still one of my favorites. 


A tsundere that I'm liking almost against my will is Emilia, the heroine from Devil is a Part-Timer (hey, does it count as isekai if the characters are from another world coming to ours)? I mean, her prickliness makes SENSE - she's supposed to kill the titular character and doesn't WANT to see anything that would make her job more difficult.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 07 June 2018, 00:30:58
And she's never explicitly a love-interest for Sedou.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 07 June 2018, 02:30:45
That's because we're on the trailing edge of the isekai trend now, so it's nearly all derivative crap.
There's some good isekai manga still around, though most of these are either not ... mainstream enough for adaption (e.g. Kumo desu ga nani ka) or aren't evolved enough (e.g. Boku no Heya ga Dungeon no Kyuukeijo) to still catch the trend wave.

Slime, coming in ... autumn i think, should still be good.

Is that How to not summon demon lord (or something like that)? I've read manga a bit, but I lost interest.
In my opinion it got boring the moment they got off the tower.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 07 June 2018, 04:23:30
For Smartphone the anime wasn't bad. Yeah OP MC, harem... but the fun doesn't really begin until after that season ends. It might have been better if they continued another 12 or 13 episodes to get to the better parts of the LN. It is by far not the best, but it can be a decent diversion. As for Zero I enjoyed all of it. Far more than Smartphone or Deathmarch. For now I will be happy to keep watching Overlord and hoping someone ponies up for another season of Log Horizon. Besides, if you really think about it everything has taken from everything else. There isn't much you can do that will be entirely original.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 07 June 2018, 05:55:44
Glad I didn't bother with it, then.

I'm finding that I can't go wrong if choose to avoid isekai, especially if harems are involved.  The Ambition of Oda Nobuna and Outbreak Company being the only two exceptions.

I really enjoyed The Ambition of Oda Nobuna, and was very happy to discover that the dub made it even better for me. Ep 9 is freakin' awesome.  8)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 07 June 2018, 06:16:11
I don't remember which I watched.. sub or dub or both. It was a good show though. Certainly an odd twist to history :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 07 June 2018, 09:44:44
But, and let's be honest here, Zero no Tsukaima isn't any better or worse than any of the isekai anime that followed it; it's exactly the same and if it had been released sometime in the last five years would be derided as formulaic and boring.

Zero no Tsukaima is the isekai all generic isekai want to be. Let's not underplay Yamaguchi-sensei's talent. He assembled a winning formula of tsundere romance, a pseudo-historical class drama, a high fantasy setting peppered with real world "magic" & popular love comedy shenanigans w/a pair of strong but deeply flawed protagonists. While diminished somewhat by the anime adaptation, the characters & narrative are iconic, endearing & entertaining.

I won't attempt to argue that Zero no Tsukaima is somehow in the same artistic league as Kawamori's Escaflowne or Tsukimura's El Hazard - that would be a base falsehood - but there's a reason why dozens of shows over the past decade have desperately been trying (& largely failing) to be Zero no Tsukaima, & that's because the formula worked!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 07 June 2018, 09:55:54
I really enjoyed The Ambition of Oda Nobuna, and was very happy to discover that the dub made it even better for me. Ep 9 is freakin' awesome.  8)

Yeah, the quality of the dub is especially surprising given that it's an older Sentai work, when at the time the studio was known for how bad its dubs tended to be.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 07 June 2018, 10:02:58
Zero no Tsukaima is the isekai all generic isekai want to be.
The funny thing about that being that 99% of the show would be the exact same if the MC was from that world instead.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 07 June 2018, 11:05:12
The funny thing about that being that 99% of the show would be the exact same if the MC was from that world instead.

I'd have to disagree. Saito's role in Zero no Tsukaima is to unintentionally infect Halkeginia with the liberal ideals of the enlightenment. This got downplayed in the anime adaptation, but Saito's modern personal values strongly impact the way the main cast is gathered together & comes to befriend one another.

Prior to Saito's summoning, the rest of the cast think about all their relationships in terms of class, station & power. Saito is intrinsically ignorant of those values & instead befriends people solely on the basis of who's just & kind. As he gains notoriety within Halkeginia's culture, his values inversely come to the attention of & garner credence with the natives. A native commoner would have known their place in the established order & either embraced their initial role as a sort of bodyguard/page or used it to subvert the nobility. They would never have created the bridges between people Saito made in the story.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 07 June 2018, 11:30:37
**BREAKING!!**

Twitter is aflutter that Toaru Majutsu no Index season 3 was confirmed in the latest issue of Dengeki magazine for October 2018!

JUDGEMENT DESU NO! 
 :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 07 June 2018, 12:54:38
I'd have to disagree. Saito's role in Zero no Tsukaima is to unintentionally infect Halkeginia with the liberal ideals of the enlightenment.
Meh, you don't need to bring in a character from another world for that. Especially since iirc the world beyond Halkeginia's handful kingdoms is never explored.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 07 June 2018, 13:21:12
Meh, you don't need to bring in a character from another world for that. Especially since iirc the world beyond Halkeginia's handful kingdoms is never explored.

That depends upon how you define "world" I guess. The setting in Zero no Tsukaima closely mimics Medieval Europe, so I would assume the rest of that world would likewise be pseudo-Earth 1300 AD. You're correct that theoretically there could be some egalitarian fantasy nation elsewhere, but culturally that would be every bit as much an entirely separate "world", & running with the Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court grounds the audience in the character's perspective.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 07 June 2018, 13:47:04
Up to the third episode of Wakfu: Quest for the Six Doufas.

Adamai really got hit with the idiot stick.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 07 June 2018, 14:21:37
there's a reason why dozens of shows over the past decade have desperately been trying (& largely failing) to be Zero no Tsukaima, & that's because the formula worked!
Can you name the shows that hit the target?

You're correct that theoretically there could be some egalitarian fantasy nation elsewhere, but culturally that would be every bit as much an entirely separate "world", & running with the Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court grounds the audience in the character's perspective.
What I remember of the anime, there are a number of nations. Princess' (later queen) nation goes to war against some of them.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 07 June 2018, 14:53:03
Can you name the shows that hit the target?

Not really. It's not something that's really been successfully duplicated because most of those shows copied the superficial qualities without understanding the way the characters or narrative worked.

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What I remember of the anime, there are a number of nations. Princess' (later queen) nation goes to war against some of them.

Yes? I'm not sure I understand. Those nations were all part of the same pseudo-medieval worldview.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 07 June 2018, 15:09:31
How good/bad was In Another World With a Smart Phone?
Essentially what MadCapellan said. It better as Manga.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 07 June 2018, 16:01:06
Up to the third episode of Wakfu: Quest for the Six Doufas.

Adamai really got hit with the idiot stick.
Hmm. Not too out of character though, he's still a kid though and saw what the Cube itself did. The Six Doufas being more powerful, well it would make you more cautious about using them yeah?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 07 June 2018, 16:15:23
He's taking the word of a mysterious lady he's known for two minutes over that of everyone else he knows.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 07 June 2018, 16:33:23
He's taking the word of a mysterious lady he's known for two minutes over that of everyone else he knows.
Yeah that's kinda what threw me for a loop.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 07 June 2018, 21:56:55
Also, after freaking out about how nobody should ever use the Doufas again, he promptly steals them so he can turn himself into a Dragonball character.

BTW, did the cast get changed for season 3?  Because the characters sound very different, which I guess is justified given just how much time has passed in-story since season 1 (though seriously, how long does Eileotrop puberty last)?.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 07 June 2018, 21:59:38
(though seriously, how long does Eileotrop puberty last)?.
.....you ask that after seeing him use the Doufas?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 07 June 2018, 22:39:30
Zero no Tsukaima is the isekai all generic isekai want to be. Let's not underplay Yamaguchi-sensei's talent. He assembled a winning formula of tsundere romance, a pseudo-historical class drama, a high fantasy setting peppered with real world "magic" & popular love comedy shenanigans w/a pair of strong but deeply flawed protagonists. While diminished somewhat by the anime adaptation, the characters & narrative are iconic, endearing & entertaining.

I won't attempt to argue that Zero no Tsukaima is somehow in the same artistic league as Kawamori's Escaflowne or Tsukimura's El Hazard - that would be a base falsehood - but there's a reason why dozens of shows over the past decade have desperately been trying (& largely failing) to be Zero no Tsukaima, & that's because the formula worked!
I just have to disagree. It isn't the isekai all generic isekai want to be - it IS the generic isekai. It isn't just formulaic - it IS the formula. That doesn't make it BAD. It just doesn't make it any better than any of the others, it just means it came first. The LNs might be better... later on. I dropped it halfway through the first one; it had no differences from the anime.

Gate, Devil is a Part-Timer, Overlord, and Saga of Tanya the Evil are all superior takes, because they only use fragments of the formula and twist it around, as are Fushigi Yuugi, Escaflowne, and El-Hazard - they made pieces of the formula but weren't afraid to CREATE tropes rather than LEAN on them.

Y'know, I wonder if Fushigi Yuugi is the oldest isekai out there. I think it's the one that created the formula, but had its twist straight from the start - REVERSE HAREM!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 07 June 2018, 22:55:38
In fact, after further consideration, that's probably my beef with ZnT - I had experienced other isekai before. Hell, I watched fourth or fifth generation VHS fansub copies of FY way back in '97, and El-Hazard I bought the VHS tapes for almost as soon as they hit the stores after renting the first one. It was not a new genre for me when I first watched ZnT.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 07 June 2018, 23:14:18
Gate, Devil is a Part-Timer, Overlord, and Saga of Tanya the Evil are all superior takes, because they only use fragments of the formula and twist it around, as are Fushigi Yuugi, Escaflowne, and El-Hazard - they made pieces of the formula but weren't afraid to CREATE tropes rather than LEAN on them.
I know a few you mention there and I totally agree with you. Another one is How a Realist Hero Rebuilt the Kingdom. Not an anime (yet), but I totally enjoy of the light novels and I'm looking forward to more to come. I have mentioned it in some other topics, but to sum it up here: it starts like Ultima IV:

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And that is as far as generic isekai goes. After that, the king resigns and nominates the male lead as his successor and makes princess his fiancee. "Princess and half the kingdom" isn't the happy end, but the beginning. Some of the characters are claimed to be tropes, but those aren't copies of templates. Let's just say that mad scientist, witch, and corrupt bishop aren't male lead's enemies but allies.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 08 June 2018, 00:56:53
Y'know, I wonder if Fushigi Yuugi is the oldest isekai out there. I think it's the one that created the formula, but had its twist straight from the start - REVERSE HAREM!
The first isekai generally acclaimed as such, and following the formula was Aura Battler Dunbine from '83, predating Fushigi Yuugi by a decade for the manga. MC is pulled into a medieval fantasy world with mana-powered mecha. Basically laid the groundwork for the genre, with many later isekai picking up individual plot elements of it and focussing on them.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 08 June 2018, 02:04:50
Watched the Heaven's Feel movie finally, and I'll totally call it out for pacing issues (not as bad as 2001, but it's got some slow spots) but **** YEAH RIDER!  The Lancer-Assassin battle is as awesome as it should be, Zouken is reaching new levels of evil creepy old zombie grandfather, and by god the visuals are beautiful, especially once the snow falls.  They're definitely lobbing some love towards Shinkai with some of the shot composition in spots, which I find awesome.

Also, Sakura-chan~
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 08 June 2018, 06:00:29
The first isekai generally acclaimed as such, and following the formula was Aura Battler Dunbine from '83, predating Fushigi Yuugi by a decade for the manga. MC is pulled into a medieval fantasy world with mana-powered mecha. Basically laid the groundwork for the genre, with many later isekai picking up individual plot elements of it and focussing on them.
Isekai isnt always fantasy setting. Super Dimensional Century Orgess is similar but with twisted world where multiple worlds are mixed into a future timeline of Earth with main character and  he a his partner are caught in the middle of it.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 08 June 2018, 07:56:02
I just have to disagree. It isn't the isekai all generic isekai want to be - it IS the generic isekai.....


I'm not sure we're actually disagreeing!  :)) I was simply pointing out that originating that formula rather than directly copying it is an accomplishment worthy of acknowledgement. Introducing the template requires that you are the template!

The first isekai generally acclaimed as such, and following the formula was Aura Battler Dunbine from '83,
*TOMINO DISAPPROVAL INTENSIFIES*
(http://i.imgur.com/R0699qQ.jpg)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: VhenRa on 08 June 2018, 09:47:55
No!!!

This weeks episode of FMP got delayed.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Siden Pryde on 08 June 2018, 10:07:27
Just watched "Mary and the Witchs' Flower".  Studio Ponoc's first film is an enjoyable little romp.  Can really feel the Studio Ghibli influence (for obvious reasons), but it does manage to feel like its own film and not a Ghibli film.  Beautiful animation and an enjoyable score.

Watched the Heaven's Feel movie finally
Having seen a few clips on youtube, the film looks amazing.  Looking forward to being able to pick the film up, and the other two eventially.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Maingunnery on 08 June 2018, 10:48:30
I just have to disagree. It isn't the isekai all generic isekai want to be - it IS the generic isekai. It isn't just formulaic - it IS the formula. That doesn't make it BAD. It just doesn't make it any better than any of the others, it just means it came first. The LNs might be better... later on. I dropped it halfway through the first one; it had no differences from the anime.
For me the best product of ZnT is "Halkegenia Online" and that is a fanfic crossover between ZnT and SAO.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Weirdo on 08 June 2018, 11:00:59
...but there's a reason why dozens of shows over the past decade have desperately been trying (& largely failing) to be Zero no Tsukaima, & that's because the formula worked!

So basically, it's like how I view Love Hina - it follows all the tropes of the formula to the letter, but does it in such a way that becomes the definition of the formula for everything that follows it.

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 08 June 2018, 11:21:01
So basically, it's like how I view Love Hina - it follows all the tropes of the formula to the letter, but does it in such a way that becomes the definition of the formula for everything that follows it.

Yep, Love Hina is another one like that! At the time, it revolutionized & re-popularized shonen love comedies, but now everything in it has been done to death, to the point that even though I loved it I struggle to enjoy watching it now. It felt REALLY stale on my last rewatch, but damn if it wasn't hilarious & innovative when it came out.....
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 08 June 2018, 15:08:01
Yep, Love Hina is another one like that! At the time, it revolutionized & re-popularized shonen love comedies, but now everything in it has been done to death, to the point that even though I loved it I struggle to enjoy watching it now. It felt REALLY stale on my last rewatch, but damn if it wasn't hilarious & innovative when it came out.....
....And that's ANOTHER one that I thought was stale and boring when I first watched it, too. Maybe I was more jaded to anime than you were at the time?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 08 June 2018, 16:32:40
....And that's ANOTHER one that I thought was stale and boring when I first watched it, too. Maybe I was more jaded to anime than you were at the time?

Possibly, although I know I have a perculiar ability to enjoy nearly infinite repetitions of essentially the same experience with minor variations. I think the reason my love for Love Hina has faded somewhat is that my enjoyment of fiction is almost wholly character based, & much of the anime experience was focused on comedic & artistic visual spectacle. The quieter character moments still get me, but Keitaro as pinball just isn't that funny anymore.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 09 June 2018, 07:49:03
*snicker* pinball boy *snicker*

My only issue with Love Hina is how dated it is on modern Tvs/monitors. Makes it.... hard to watch. I loved Record of Lodoss War but last few times I tried to watch it.... eewwww. I would probably have the same issue if I broke out my old VHS tapes of Dirty Pair, Starblazers, Heroic Legend of Arslan, or even Roujin Z.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 09 June 2018, 08:05:43
I guess it feels dated only because way they approach things and how society is now.

Look at the Crusher Joe stuff. It's animation was state of the art when it came out. Yet it's depends who watching it.  I recently watch (arguably Hong Kong version) of Super Fortress Macross (it's name they used, not Clash of Bionoids or Macross Do you remember love?).  Its old but damn its action pack fun watch.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 09 June 2018, 09:46:37
I was referring more to how dated the video quality is. Even changing a monitor to lower resolution only does so much... Tvs are a bit easier, but modern tvs sure don't like it either lol
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 09 June 2018, 10:03:24
I was referring more to how dated the video quality is. Even changing a monitor to lower resolution only does so much... Tvs are a bit easier, but modern tvs sure don't like it either lol

If you don't have a Blu-Ray player that actively filters low-end video from.source DVDs, yeah, that can look awful, & don't even think about putting VHS on an HD TV........there's a reason BD remasters are a thing!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 09 June 2018, 10:15:41
You can only spend your hobby budget so many times...  xp
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 09 June 2018, 11:25:12
What about streaming services? They use high-quality sources. I mean, they probably won't have Crusher Joe... but other sources.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 09 June 2018, 11:55:14
Funimation has Lodoss and it still looks like crap, so not every streaming service is going to have remastered video. And it sucks... I try and watch a favorite 30 yo anime and end up frustrated cuz of how dated the quality and don't have access to anything higher quality.

But anyway, what does everyone think of No Game No Life as an isekai?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 09 June 2018, 12:15:17
Funimation has Lodoss and it still looks like crap, so not every streaming service is going to have remastered video. And it sucks... I try and watch a favorite 30 yo anime and end up frustrated cuz of how dated the quality and don't have access to anything higher quality.

Your best bet is to get a player that adequately filters the video rather than try to re-buy all the disks. It's cheaper & a lot of those things won't even get upscale releases. I recommend a high-end Sony player if you can get it. Playstation 4 actually does a pretty good job.

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But anyway, what does everyone think of No Game No Life as an isekai?

Really couldn't stand the main characters after the first two episodes so I dropped it. There's only so much wallowing in your dislike of reality's basic responsibilities I can tolerate. LN artist plagiarized Kantoku too, which shows he has good taste but doesn't earn any respect from me either.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 09 June 2018, 12:19:21
I have just recently (day or 2 ago) watched couple videos on YouTube where is explained why CRT TV/monitor is the best companion for an old game console. I guess same goes for old anime? I'm not too picky about it though, and I enjoy playing Mega Drive games on my PC & HD monitor. But with anime, interlacing is a bitch. What deinterlacing feature do you recommend to be used with VLC Media Player? I started watching Maria Holic just recently (DVD version, and I'm playing it from disc image instead from disc itself)

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I also have PowerDVD 10 & 14
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 09 June 2018, 13:07:21
But anyway, what does everyone think of No Game No Life as an isekai?

It has some of the most unlikable protagonists I've ever seen.

And I'll second MadCapellan's recommendation about using a PS4 or other Sony Blue Ray player for older DVDs.

But I think that there's only so much that can be done for Record of Lodoss War- my memories of it were that it didn't look good back in the day.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Dies Irae on 09 June 2018, 19:38:56
Darling in the FranXX Ep 20:

I was successfully tricked into watching Gurren Lagann again...

I'm sort of fine with that.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ghostbear_Gurdel on 09 June 2018, 20:11:31
Darling in the FranXX Ep 20:

I was successfully tricked into watching Gurren Lagann again...

I'm sort of fine with that.
i feel like hes not wrong.....
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Re: FMP:IV: Damn Souske, that was one hell of a roaring rampage of revenge, but i feel you're starting to get a little too aggressive, you're making more and bigger mistakes the longer this goes on. this seems like an unhealthy path you walk.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: VhenRa on 11 June 2018, 01:16:49
i feel like hes not wrong.....
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Re: FMP:IV: Damn Souske, that was one hell of a roaring rampage 1of revenge, but i feel you're starting to get a little too aggressive, you're making more and bigger mistakes the longer this goes on. this seems like an unhealthy path you walk.

When you set out on a path of revenge, dig two graves.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 12 June 2018, 12:36:42
Was some discussion about isekai genre. I have seen some of it.

Magic Knight: Rayearth
Seen anime on TV and on anime club. 3 high school girls from different schools are summoned to fantasy world to fight against some evil dude and his minions. This is clearly aimed for the children and therefore wasn't really enjoyable for me.

The familiar of Zero
I've got all anime seasons on DVDs. Female lead is magic school student from bottom of the barrel. Her attempt to summon a familiar gets her a NEET from Japan. Heavy on comedy, romance with some kissing, and abuse against male lead, series has some good characters and character development. Also bunch of stuff that don't make much of sense: one student blows a whistle, bunch of knights crash through the doors and windows, some kind of trial is being held against one of the students, and teachers & rest of the school staff are nowhere to be seen nor has their absence ever been explained. What the Hell?

Konosuba
Translated light novels and manga are available at least for Kindle and Apple's iBook software, anime is at least on Crunchyroll. Japanese NEET dies of heart attack and goddess of water ask him to go to fantasy world to fight demon king, along with 1 thing of NEET's choice. He choose goddess herself. Unfortunately, goddess don't have much in the way of knowledge, skills, nor fighting ability aside holy attacks against undead. 2 other misfits join them: wizard, who can cast 1 powerful explosion in day and nothing more, and crusader, who can endure punishment better than her plate armour, but can't hit broadside of the barn. "My party can't be this dysfunctional". Despite being surrounded by beautiful girls, male lead don't seem to have romantical interest for anyone, though light novel #5 brings some development on that front. Anime is decent adaptation which puts more emphasis on scenes that light novels skim over but also make some cuts, and manga only makes cuts without adding anything new.

Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World-
I have watched anime on Crunchyroll. Japanese guy (again) suddenly finds himself inside of unfamiliar city in fantasy world. He thinks he knows something about isekai genre, but I have a feeling he don't know about The familiar of Zero and Konosuba. And soon enough things go worse for him than either for Saito or for Kazuma: he dies. Surprise: he ends up going back in time being alive, and looking for ways to survive through incoming disaster after disaster. Heavy on angst and PTSD, but this time there are good justifications for that: dying horribly and repeatedly has to suck big time. And he sucks it up and moves on. Along the way he meets girls and there is some romance going on.

GATE: Where the JSDF Fought
That is the official translation of the manga, and I've got it. First volume at least, and I'm wondering why more hasn't come by now. Stargate (of sort) appears in middle of Tokyo and fantasy army comes through of it. JSDF curb-stomps it and goes through the gate. Main character is lieutenant otaku commanding a recon squad. As he and his squad do reconnaissance, they come across with elfs, dwarfs (looks like anyway), dragons, cat girls, bunny girls, mages, immortal demigoddess loli... Yeah. But there is a war going on, and war is Hell. And bloody, even without colours. And rape. And bathing. Manga has a good number of pages that goes against the forum rules. Anime is available on Cruncyroll and HIDIVE, and it cut & censor whole lot. Lieutenant gets close with some of the fantasy girls, but he don't have romantic interest for anyone and stonewalls any advances the girls make towards him.

[New Life+] Young Again in Another World
Light novels, translations available at least for Kindle. Why did I even bought this? Oh, right, this:
"He was, therefore, understandably upset when he woke up again in an empty space, devoid of memories, with a young girl in a tunic rambling on and on about how she’s God. So, he did what any reasonable person would have done under those circumstances: he sent the girl flying with a kick to the face."

Isekai story about reasonable guy who don't take crap from a girl? Yes please! It turns out to be a mismash of comedy, parody, and some serious action. Guy ends up saving 2 girls from being raped and thus they start adventuring together. With God's blessings and experiences from his previous life under his subconsciousness, guy kicks serious ass and saves his party time and again. But despite being flanked by 2 beauties, he don't have any romantic interest for either and stonewalls their advances. Repeatedly and desperately holding on to his chastity.

Mushoku Tensei: Jobless Reincarnation
I have bought some manga volumes of this. Adult Japanese NEET gets overrun by a truck and is reborn in fantasy world. Remembering his past miserable life, he decides to do better this time around. He has talent for magic, and his parents hire a pretty demon instructor to educate him. Largely slice-of-life with some romance and action, this is pretty much average in isekai genre.

Death March to the Parallel World Rhapsody
Anime is available at least on Crunchyroll. Japanese game developer falls asleep under his workdesk and ends up dreaming (?) of being inside the RPG he is working on. Soon enough he is surrounded by enemies and he ends up using limited mega über attack he had coded in the game the day before. As a result of hundreds of kills, he ends up with a large amount of experience points which makes him totally overpowered game character. Because he don't feel like conquering the world, he introduces himself as traveling merchant. He also ends up with whole bunch of pretty slaves, and one of them is reincarnated Japanese. All his slaves are eager to serve their master, but instead he makes visits to brothels. HAIL TO THE KING, BABY!

Re:Monster
Originally light novel (or Web novel, whatever), I've got couple manga volumes in English. Man dies and is reborn as a goblin. However he inherited some supernatural powers from his past life he already had back then. Along with his superior human knowledge, he becomes top-goblin soon enough and leader of the tribe. With his new-found authority, he liberates captured human women from his tribe and they become his willing lovers. Spoilers tell he will have children. HAIL TO THE KING, BABY!

How a realist hero rebuilt the kingdom
Translated light novels are available for Kindle and I have read them all, short of the newest one. Japanese university student is summoned to fantasy world under attack of a demon king. Human king calls him a hero, ask for his help, and why would a hero from Japan refuse? Even though kingdom in question isn't in direct confrontation against demon lord and his minions, economy is in shambles, king's authority is undermined by corruption, and pressure from surrounding nations just keeps building up. Japanese hero has proper education for many of the problems, and therefore king declares the hero as his successor and betrothal to the princess, effective immediately. Jaws hit the floor. On top of that, princess tells the hero king to take more wives calling it a king's duty. Very unique take on isekai genre. King even kiss the princess, embrace his entire harem, and ... HAIL TO THE KING, BABY!

Aah, that took some time to type.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 13 June 2018, 10:14:20
[New Life+] Young Again in Another World
Light novels, translations available at least for Kindle. Why did I even bought this? Oh, right, this:
"He was, therefore, understandably upset when he woke up again in an empty space, devoid of memories, with a young girl in a tunic rambling on and on about how she’s God. So, he did what any reasonable person would have done under those circumstances: he sent the girl flying with a kick to the face."

Isekai story about reasonable guy who don't take crap from a girl?
Notable for its anime being cancelled, because the author was so racist/nationalist that the actresses quit and no one else wanted to touch it. The LN's soon followed.

And reasonable guys dont kick people in the face for the crime of being annoying.

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Re:Monster
Originally light novel (or Web novel, whatever), I've got couple manga volumes in English. Man dies and is reborn as a goblin. However he inherited some supernatural powers from his past life he already had back then. Along with his superior human knowledge, he becomes top-goblin soon enough and leader of the tribe. With his new-found authority, he liberates captured human women from his tribe and they become his willing lovers. Spoilers tell he will have children. HAIL TO THE KING, BABY!
I tried reading that one. The power fantasy was one of the worse I ever saw. He was a super powered human before he dies and reincarnated, and then he got even worse. Never mind how unrealistic the woman situation was (Liberates. Right.). And then THAT got worse, too. I stopped once they got to the 'We're going to feed the elves aphrodisiac' point, and they essentially justified it as not rape because 'they did so willingly'. 
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 13 June 2018, 10:35:04
Notable for its anime being cancelled, because the author was so racist/nationalist that the actresses quit and no one else wanted to touch it. The LN's soon followed.
Really? Wasn't it about years old tweets saying that the protagonist may or is one of the soldiers in China, possibly involving Nanking?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 13 June 2018, 10:48:02
Notable for its anime being cancelled, because the author was so racist/nationalist that the actresses quit and no one else wanted to touch it. The LN's soon followed.

I really struck me reading about the anime being green-lit & then summarily cancelled that most of the sponsors on production committees must never read this stuff & it's all approved on the good word of the publisher. I hope Hobby Japan doesn't find itself ostracized from the industry over this.

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I tried reading that one. The power fantasy was one of the worse I ever saw.

It's pretty amazing that you can make a living as an author in Japan taking the plot from generic fantasy porn manga & removing the graphic content!  ;D I still don't know how products like that even sell.....
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 13 June 2018, 10:56:26
Really? Wasn't it about years old tweets saying that the protagonist may or is one of the soldiers in China, possibly involving Nanking?

All of the above.

>In the original web novel, protagonist killed 3,000 people in the War in China, & went on to kill 2,000 more (specifically Chinese) after the war. Final print version was somewhat ambiguous.
>Tweets were found by the author from a couple of years back directing racist vitriol at Chinese & Koreans
>When called out, Hobby Japan apologied & indicated it would be further edited out of future reprints
>Voice actresses then pulled out of the anime production
>The author publicly apologied on twitter & promised to delete his twitter once his apology was widely circulated.
>Committee cancelled anime production, possibly because no-one would sign up to act in it.
>Hobby Japan finally announced the entire series was cancelled.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 13 June 2018, 11:38:04
Yikes.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 13 June 2018, 11:57:19
One would think that Sengoku period (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sengoku_period) would be a treasure trove for anime. But based on what I have read in few posts above, I can see why anime based on that period are few and far between. Bummer :(
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 13 June 2018, 12:06:51
Fujoshi love Sengoku. That's generally where all the period action is in anime.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 13 June 2018, 12:08:51
Fujoshi love Sengoku. That's generally where all the period action is in anime.
Huh? I must have missed something. Is there anything else besides Rurouni Kenshin?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 13 June 2018, 12:33:41
Rurouni Kenshin is set in the Meiji period.  The Sengoku period is the Warring States Era, when works like Inuyasha, The Ambition of Oda Nobuna, or Sengoku Basara are set.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 13 June 2018, 12:52:38
I was definitely thinking stuff like Hakuoki,Token Ranbu, & Sengoku Basara, but I suspect that's not what Matti has in mind.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 13 June 2018, 13:03:13
He was a super powered human before he dies and reincarnated, and then he got even worse.
Superpowered? More like he was the same as after reincarnation. A cannibal that is.

And if i remember right that the women were "liberated" by him. Not from his tribe, but from another one that he basically took over. Sometime after the human cattle his own tribe held, including his mother, died and were eaten by him...

The Sengoku period is the Warring States Era, when works like Inuyasha, The Ambition of Oda Nobuna, or Sengoku Basara are set.
And about 1-2 anime per season since... the 90s or so... (seriously, just how many Oda Nobunaga anime adaptions are there? 20?)
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 13 June 2018, 13:35:14
Oh and lets not forget the more bizarre Nobunaga the Fool xp
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Post by: Weirdo on 13 June 2018, 13:42:32
Okay, I've heard of some weird anime and manga, but what in the actual ******?!? :o
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 13 June 2018, 13:47:28
Okay, I've heard of some weird anime and manga, but what in the actual ******?!? :o

Dude, this hole goes so deep not only can you not see the bottom, you probably don't want to! ;D It's a little like Made In Abyss, actually!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 13 June 2018, 13:51:21
I was definitely thinking stuff like Hakuoki,Token Ranbu, & Sengoku Basara, but I suspect that's not what Matti has in mind.
Yeah, never heard of any of them. I looked them up and all I get is:
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Sorry, due to licensing limitations, videos are unavailable in your region.
Wait, Hakuoki Reimeiroku seems to be available for me.

Also I know about Ambition of Oda Nobunaga. And she's a girl. I wish Vagabond would have gotten an anime...

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On closer inspection, Crunchyroll says this about Sengoku BASARA: Samurai Kings:
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Get ready to feel the rush of non-stop, over-the-top battlefield action
All right, not gonna buy it either.
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Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 13 June 2018, 13:55:26
Also I know about Ambition of Oda Nobunaga. And she's a girl. I wish Vagabond would have gotten an anime...
It seems like, from what I can remember, that the protagonist got sent into the game that became real. The game was about obtaining characters including Oda Nobunaga for your harem (and they're all female).
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 13 June 2018, 14:00:02
The Sengoku period is one of the most popular anime settings around. Anything involving Nobunaga Oda (and man does he show up a lot.)? Sengoku period.

The other really popular one is the Bakumatsu period. That's when the Shinsengumi showed up.
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Post by: Matti on 13 June 2018, 14:18:21
WARNING! Following video features rant and insults by an Italian!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGJIfDAhRJI

The Sengoku period is one of the most popular anime settings around. Anything involving Nobunaga Oda (and man does he show up a lot.)? Sengoku period.

The other really popular one is the Bakumatsu period. That's when the Shinsengumi showed up.
Leaving aside the equivalents what Metatron ranted about, do you have anything to recommend to me of the genre?
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 13 June 2018, 15:26:35
Edit: nevermind, was supposed to be a reply to a post from the previous page
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Post by: Matti on 13 June 2018, 15:42:05
So there is no anime equivalent of Vagabond or Seven samurai?
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Post by: MadCapellan on 13 June 2018, 16:08:53
So there is no anime equivalent of Vagabond or Seven samurai?

Most hard-boiled samurai stories are told through live action, since historical period drama is an entire genre of TV & film in Japan equivalent to Westerns in America. There are some more fantastic takes like Blade of the Immortal, Sword of the Stranger & Samurai Seven, but ultimately most period anime skews towards female fans.
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Post by: kato on 13 June 2018, 16:12:26
Well, there is Samurai 7 loosely based on Seven Samurai... ( plotwise it's based on it, it just mixes in some cyborgs ;) )

which isn't available on CR for me in my region so probably not for you either.

P.S.: Did you check Basilisk, of which the second series is airing this season? It's set against the backdrop of Tokugawa Ieyasu's death (i.e. the succession after the generation that ended the Sengoku warring states period) with the first anime series set right then in 1614, the second ten years later. Both the manga and anime are rather, uh, seinen in my opinion.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 13 June 2018, 18:00:28
It seems like, from what I can remember, that the protagonist got sent into the game that became real. The game was about obtaining characters including Oda Nobunaga for your harem (and they're all female).

For which one? One of us might be thinking of the wrong anime... I think one is where the girls are sent to modern day Japan, the other the male is sent back in time (or whatever it was). In either case the leaders were all female.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 13 June 2018, 18:09:31
And the actual title is The Ambition of Oda Nobuna. The other I was thinking you were talking about is still unknown.. I just can't remember the name of it and so far haven't been able to locate in via google or a quick search on CR.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 13 June 2018, 18:09:47
For which one? One of us might be thinking of the wrong anime... I think one is where the girls are sent to modern day Japan, the other the male is sent back in time (or whatever it was). In either case the leaders were all female.

Sengoku Collection is the one where genderswapped sengoku lords were brought forward in time. I'd still like to give it another try, if only out of loyalty to my man Keiji Gotoh.

Ambition of Oda Nobuna was the one where the protagonist went back in time but all the sengoku lords were women.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 13 June 2018, 18:16:01
Yeah I just found the title for Sengoku Collection. I started both around the same time but only finished the first episode of Sengoku. It didn't capture my interest as much as Ambition. I have thought about giving it another try but something else usually catches my eye first.
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Post by: Matti on 13 June 2018, 22:10:59
What about Golden Kamuy? Any good?
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Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 14 June 2018, 07:29:28

Ambition of Oda Nobuna was the one where the protagonist went back in time but all the sengoku lords were women.
Again, rewatch the first episode. It was like the game he was playing came to live. But apparently the twist was that they become women, in contrast to the game he played.
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Post by: Istal_Devalis on 14 June 2018, 10:09:28
Sengoku Era anime I like and hasnt been mentioned:

Ninja Girl & Samurai Master/Nobunaga no Shinobi: Short form anime about a girl who serves as Nobunaga's ninja. History + Comedy.

ENGOKUCHOJYUGIGA: Another short form anime. A more outright gag comedy featuring the popular sengoku era personalities. The show conceit being that everyone is drawn as an animal based on woodcut art.
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Post by: Matti on 14 June 2018, 12:50:27
About Re:Monster:
It's pretty amazing that you can make a living as an author in Japan taking the plot from generic fantasy porn manga & removing the graphic content!  ;D I still don't know how products like that even sell.....
What sold the manga to me is badass protagonist who don't take crap, beats and kills those who cross him, is still respected and admired by those who are not jerks (even if they are captured enemy soldiers), and isn't abused by women nor by anybody else. Power fantasy you say? And still he lost an arm!
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Post by: Wrangler on 14 June 2018, 14:57:04
Has anyone been following Lupin the Third: Part 5? I haven't had chance watch it. I've heard good things so far.
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Post by: Moonsword on 14 June 2018, 16:27:51
Thread locked for moderator review.
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Post by: Moonsword on 15 June 2018, 15:18:11
I'm reopening the thread.  Let me make a few things clear:

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Post by: DarkSpade on 15 June 2018, 16:30:15
For New Game New Life, after the first episode or two I was kind of regretting the purchase of the full season.  As other's mentioned, the protagonist is rather grating.  I stuck with it though, and I'm glad I did.  All the main characters grew on me(the angel woman was awesome) and I really enjoyed it. Bummer that it looks like there won't be a second season.  Haven't figured out where to pick up the story with the Manga.  Is New Game New Life Plus where season two would have gone, or is that an off shoot story?
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 15 June 2018, 16:32:50
Voltron: Legendary Defender season 6 drops today.

I hope it's longer than season 5.

I'm guessing that Lothar will finally reveal his true villainy at some point.
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Post by: kato on 15 June 2018, 17:12:47
Is New Game New Life Plus where season two would have gone, or is that an off shoot story?
I assume you mean No Game No Life and No Game No Life, Please!. The latter is a sidestory shootoff that focused on Izuna (the werebeast child from the last couple eps). The anime adapted the first three volumes of the light novel - currently on volume 10, if you want to read the continuation read that. Up to volume 6 is available in English (7 and 8 can be preordered). The manga publishes extremely irregularly on a scale of 1-2 chapters per year. Not even sure it has caught up to the anime by now.

There's also the No Game No Life Zero movie out (...in Japan; official trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i1AxFdlu0M)) which provides a backstory of the world from a couple thousand years earlier and for known characters therefore only includes Jibril.

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Post by: pheonixstorm on 15 June 2018, 17:43:30
There is an AMV on youtube that uses footage from the NGNL movie which looks pretty decent.
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Post by: Dies Irae on 15 June 2018, 18:50:48
There was a post about bad dubbing somewhere in here before everything plunged into the to Political Discussion abyss.
I believe iamfanboy challenged us to find a recent bad English dub.

I tend to prefer subs or watching in the original Japanese myself, but I'll seize upon any opportunity to mock the absolute trainwreck that is Netflix's "A.I.C.O. -Incarnation-" dub.

Show was average leaning towards good. Dub was abysmal.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 15 June 2018, 19:32:34
Are you saying it was bad because the voice acting was poorly integrated to the animation or just because the voice acting itself was bad?
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Post by: Dies Irae on 15 June 2018, 19:50:59
Yes. ;)

To elaborate, the dubbing was very poorly done. Delivery was flat with problematic casting which didn't suit the characters. Stilted delivery, bad timing and even broken English in some spots. There are parts where the VAs, who feel like they're just reading off a script respond to character movement by just reading faster, changing tempo mid-sentence or pausing mid sentence.

It was just objectively bad.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 15 June 2018, 21:44:08
See, I found the show so uninteresting that I forgot about the quality of the dub.
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Post by: DarkSpade on 15 June 2018, 21:45:46
I assume you mean No Game No Life and No Game No Life, Please!. The latter is a sidestory shootoff that focused on Izuna (the werebeast child from the last couple eps). The anime adapted the first three volumes of the light novel - currently on volume 10, if you want to read the continuation read that. Up to volume 6 is available in English (7 and 8 can be preordered). The manga publishes extremely irregularly on a scale of 1-2 chapters per year. Not even sure it has caught up to the anime by now.

Doh! Yeah, that's the one I meant.  :facepalm:   Not really up for a novel on this one though.  Oh well, guess I just let it go.

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There's also the No Game No Life Zero movie out (...in Japan; official trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i1AxFdlu0M)) which provides a backstory of the world from a couple thousand years earlier and for known characters therefore only includes Jibril.

Wow that looks... like crap.    :-\    That's like if Full Metal Panic! decided to do a movie set during the french revolution.
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Post by: Matti on 16 June 2018, 11:37:57
So there is no anime equivalent of Vagabond or Seven samurai?
I may have found one: Hakuoki Reimeiroku. 2 episodes down and so far so good. While I can tell sword techniques shown are less than authentic, nothing goes too much over the top. Yet.

Earlier seasons of Hakuoki are region blocked for me, but description says something about vampires?
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Post by: Top Sergeant on 17 June 2018, 14:09:19
For which one? One of us might be thinking of the wrong anime... I think one is where the girls are sent to modern day Japan, the other the male is sent back in time (or whatever it was). In either case the leaders were all female.

The most surprising thing was that the show turned out to actually not be a harem.
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Post by: Top Sergeant on 17 June 2018, 14:11:01
Sengoku Collection is the one where genderswapped sengoku lords were brought forward in time. I'd still like to give it another try, if only out of loyalty to my man Keiji Gotoh.

Ambition of Oda Nobuna was the one where the protagonist went back in time but all the sengoku lords were women.

Only about half of the Daimyo were women. It does seem as if all were because the daimyo more central to the story were indeed women.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 17 June 2018, 14:46:49
It was all the characters who showed up in Samurai Warriors who ended up as women.

Well, watched season 6 of Voltron.  Pretty intense.  Not going to say more to avoid spoilers for those who are planning to watch it.
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Post by: kato on 19 June 2018, 17:34:46
Since it's only 10 days to go, let's check the next season...

Continuations:
... and so on. Seems all pretty straightforward. And stuff that i'm all gonna watch if i get my hands on it. Well, maybe not Baki.

Other than that, we have in new stuff, ranked a bit by whether i'll watch it...:
Honorable mentions, as in i'd watch it:
About anything else i won't be watching. That includes the blood cell thing. And Attack on Titan III. And the Smartphone isekai clone.

Though let's see if e.g. Are Zombie Shoujo no Sainan will actually be broadcast. The zombie of zombie anime. Been in development hell since 2012.

Anyone notice the dearth of any romance anime this summer?
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Post by: MadCapellan on 19 June 2018, 18:09:43
This summer season is as depressing a season chart as I can ever recall seeing. Blah. I'm not following anything that's carrying over, which just leaves new shows.

Things I'll try:

I hope this season finds something to impress me, but right now I don't feel that October can come fast enough! ;D xp
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Post by: kato on 19 June 2018, 18:32:05
Senjuushi looks like fujoshi bait to me...
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Post by: Dies Irae on 19 June 2018, 19:29:37
Summer looks bleak. I'm probably shooting for the following:

Chio-chan no Tsuugakuro:
The way life is currently functioning, I'm happy to go with something gonzo absurdist. I've always been a sucker for comedy sketches which take the 'mundane' and put it in offbeat context.

High Score Girl:
As a kid, arcades always intrigued me greatly. I'm planning to give this one a couple of episodes just to see how it will shape up.

Back Street Girls:
The premise is absurdly horrifying. Back Street Girls will either see me running screaming for the brain bleach or my bleak sense of humor will find this amusing. Either way, the premise has enough weirdness that it has me intrigued.

Hataraku Saibou:
I'm already an avid follower of the manga. This one is a no brainer for me. I just hope it isn't a botch.

Island:
I am iffy about this one, but I have a Japanese friend who thoroughly shilled the original visual novel. Will give this a shot.

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Continuations:

Piano no Mori:
I am starved for music anime. This will suffice.

Boku no Hero Academia:
Been following the manga as well. The anime has been doing a very good job of keeping the kinetic presentation of a superhero comic.

Juushinki Pandora:
I'm not exactly sure why I'm still watching this. Probably sunk cost fallacy. It has all the ingredients to be a top notch Mecha series (solid 'Mecha designs, good VA cast, interesting setting) but the overall execution is just overly pedestrian.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 19 June 2018, 20:59:32
Senjuushi looks like fujoshi bait to me...

Sure does! If it's clever it might still be enjoyable, though!
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Post by: Dies Irae on 26 June 2018, 19:59:18
Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu - Die Neue These (Legend of the Galactic Heroes - The New Thesis) is done.

It was a heroic effort to try to fit that particular LoGH arc into a single cour, but they did a good job going at it with a chainsaw. It's still dry and discussing the themes of democracy and autocracy lurking beneath the surface of the show will likely get us beaten with a Rule 4 bat (again), but that stuff is my bread and butter. The CGI starship engagements were downright beautiful as well though underused since at its core the focus was primarily on the societies underlying the conflict as heralded by their exemplars, Reinhard von Müsel and Yang Wen Li.

It's a solid, watchable entry, though I'm annoyed that they cut the series where they did, just to save the big set piece for the movie coming out in 2019. Regardless, it's a very good entry to a season with a solid crop of shows.
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Post by: Dies Irae on 30 June 2018, 20:40:16
Darling in the FranXX Ep 20:

I was successfully tricked into watching Gurren Lagann again...

I'm sort of fine with that.

Darling in the FranXX EP 23:

I was successfully tricked into watching Gunbuster again...

I'm still sort of fine with that.
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Post by: Istal_Devalis on 02 July 2018, 09:40:50
Giant mecha wedding dress and bomb bouquet? Sure, why not.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: MadCapellan on 02 July 2018, 11:11:36
FranXX is well off the rails thematically, but now that I've accepted that it's a lot easier to just enjoy the explosions & the Trigger sakuga!

Started watching Island yesterday! I thought I was time-travelling to 2006 watching it just like the main character, but considering I love that classic visual novel style, that's not a bad thing at all!

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Post by: Matti on 02 July 2018, 13:37:36
Started watching Island yesterday! I thought I was time-travelling to 2006 watching it just like the main character, but considering I love that classic visual novel style, that's not a bad thing at all!
Can you tell some more about it? Like what is it about?
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Post by: MadCapellan on 02 July 2018, 14:11:23
Can you tell some more about it? Like what is it about?

An insular island has had a number of amnesiacs wash-up on shore, always when a mysterious second island appears off the coast. The latest castaway is the protagonist, who remembers only that he's from the future, & has come to save someone & kill another. The castaway meets the daughter of the island's mayor before meeting a mysterious rich girl whose name he remembers, but who doesn't remember him. The girl lets him take a job as a housekeeper at her home as his memories slowly return & he tries to figure out who he is & why he came there.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 05 July 2018, 16:48:16
Welp, it is with great trepidation that I must announce that yet another live-action attempt at Gundam is being taken, this time by top-shelf Western nerd studio Legendary Pictures (https://fast.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-07-05/sunrise-legendary-announce-live-action-gundam-film/.133849). Legendary Pictures is generally a trustworthy studio, but adaptations of anime to live-action on both sides of the Pacific tend to be so Gods-awful it's really hard to conjure up any enthusiasm. At least it might be better than G-Savior?
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Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 05 July 2018, 16:54:22
Welp, it is with great trepidation that I must announce that yet another live-action attempt at Gundam is being taken, this time by top-shelf Western nerd studio Legendary Pictures (https://fast.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-07-05/sunrise-legendary-announce-live-action-gundam-film/.133849). Legendary Pictures is generally a trustworthy studio, but adaptations of anime to live-action on both sides of the Pacific tend to be so Gods-awful it's really hard to conjure up any enthusiasm. At least it might be better than G-Savior?
Well I know that Live action Space Battleship Yamato's main issue was trying to compress an entire series' plot and the second half show that.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 05 July 2018, 20:15:43
Index Season 3 teaser is up! Looks like we're going to get the British Royal Family/World War III arcs!

https://fast.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-07-05/a-certain-magical-index-season-3-anime-teaser-promo-streamed/.133857 (https://fast.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-07-05/a-certain-magical-index-season-3-anime-teaser-promo-streamed/.133857)

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Post by: Top Sergeant on 06 July 2018, 07:16:47
I was watching Starblazers 2202: Soldiers of Love Ep #9 and I had to shut it off. Kouda was exhibiting brain dead stupidity at Shirou Emiya levels.  :'(

Hopefully this is just a one time thing and next episode will be back to normal.
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Post by: Charlie Tango on 07 July 2018, 08:19:23
And from the anime-inspired side of things...

Dakota Fanning and Koichi Yamadera Join Cast of Rooster Teeth's gen:LOCK (https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/rooster-teeth-genlock-dakota-fanning-koichi-yamadera-1202865297/)

For those who don't know, Yamadera is the original voice of Spike Spiegel as well as a few hundred other anime characters.

They also announced Monica Rial will be voicing one of the main commander characters.
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Post by: Maingunnery on 07 July 2018, 12:21:47

Darling in the FranXX
Just saw the last episode and I think that it ended very well.
Quite touching
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Post by: kato on 07 July 2018, 13:32:04
Chio-chan no Tsuugakuro: The way life is currently functioning, I'm happy to go with something gonzo absurdist.
First episode was surprisingly sedate, especially the second half. Given how absurd the manga does turn the matter though i hope that was just some sort of introduction - and this ain't turning into slice-of-life. First half was hilarious.

Planet With - Gots robots. Looks cute. Looks funny. JC Staff rarely fails to deliver at least a baseline of entertainment
Somewhat of a surprise, that one. I mean, cute? Not really. Funny? Not quite other than some spoofing. Broadly Etotama level of "wtf am i watching" there. And whoever edited the script must have been a high-level autist. The phases the story goes through are timed. To the second. 3-minute start, eight exact 2 minute cycles after that, 3-minute end including ED. Seriously.

Other than that, only thing i'm watching so far is Yama no Susume S3. A bit much on the recycled animation, but i guess they're basically expanding on where the first season's 3-minute episodes left people hanging a bit.
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Post by: Top Sergeant on 07 July 2018, 20:12:06
Darling in the FranXX
Just saw the last episode and I think that it ended very well.
Quite touching

Agreed!
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Post by: Dies Irae on 07 July 2018, 21:23:01
First episode was surprisingly sedate, especially the second half. Given how absurd the manga does turn the matter though i hope that was just some sort of introduction - and this ain't turning into slice-of-life. First half was hilarious.

Yeah. I follow the manga as well. I was expecting more insanity. I guess they were going for baby steps.


Darling in the FranXX
Just saw the last episode and I think that it ended very well.
Quite touching

It just... sort of fell apart at the end and lost coherence. Last 4-5 episodes could have been an entire series on their own.
Still a good series, but I was so inundated by sudden plot twists at the end, the part of my brain that really cared switched off.

Good but not great by my tastes.

I still enjoyed the show immensely, but it wasn't the second coming of Mecha it was originally hyped as being.
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Post by: Ghostbear_Gurdel on 07 July 2018, 22:04:11
well its summer, so i think i'm gonna have to watch Hanebado and Harukana Recieve.  ;D

Overlord 3 and Attack on Titan 3 are also must watch shows.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 07 July 2018, 22:08:39
It just... sort of fell apart at the end and lost coherence.......Still a good series, but I was so inundated by sudden plot twists at the end, the part of my brain that really cared switched off.

The less I cared about what FranXX was trying to say, the more I enjoyed it. I suspect many people watching Franxx made the same mistake of reading more into the philosophical window dressing than was intended, & what Trigger was actually making with FranXX was Gurren Lagann II Electric Bugaloo guest starring Kill la Kill. Kill la Kill had some similar inconsistent commentary about cultural fascism & liberating yourself from conformity, but that series thankfully never presented itself with the level of gravity that implied it was a serious focus of the show like FranXX. When the show was announced, I assumed that A-1 was brought in to lend some dramatic heft to the show, & that social commentary was going to be a rather integral part of the narrative, but it appears all of that was just a head-fake & the emperor was meant to be naked from the start. There've definitely been worse shows, but the frantic way FranXX has shifted its tone & twisted its plot has made it very hard to retain any strong emotional investment.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 07 July 2018, 22:22:01
With the exception of Overlord S3 I am taking the summer off and binge watching One Piece which so far reminds me a lot of Hunter x Hunter.
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Post by: Dies Irae on 08 July 2018, 00:28:28
The less I cared about what FranXX was trying to say, the more I enjoyed it. I suspect many people watching Franxx made the same mistake of reading more into the philosophical window dressing than was intended, & what Trigger was actually making with FranXX was Gurren Lagann II Electric Bugaloo guest starring Kill la Kill. Kill la Kill had some similar inconsistent commentary about cultural fascism & liberating yourself from conformity, but that series thankfully never presented itself with the level of gravity that implied it was a serious focus of the show like FranXX. When the show was announced, I assumed that A-1 was brought in to lend some dramatic heft to the show, & that social commentary was going to be a rather integral part of the narrative, but it appears all of that was just a head-fake & the emperor was meant to be naked from the start. There've definitely been worse shows, but the frantic way FranXX has shifted its tone & twisted its plot has made it very hard to retain any strong emotional investment.

I was definitely one of those thrown for a loop by the tonality shift, but my main complaint is that the even watching it as a wacky mecha show, the overall execution of the fights in the second cour lacked the grandeur and spectacle of the earlier episodes. There are shows which can carry themselves through sheer spectacle alone. This wasn't one of them.

Overall, I feel sort of let down by Neon Tengen Toppa Kill La Buster.


An insular island has had a number of amnesiacs wash-up on shore, always when a mysterious second island appears off the coast. The latest castaway is the protagonist, who remembers only that he's from the future, & has come to save someone & kill another. The castaway meets the daughter of the island's mayor before meeting a mysterious rich girl whose name he remembers, but who doesn't remember him. The girl lets him take a job as a housekeeper at her home as his memories slowly return & he tries to figure out who he is & why he came there.

I'm at episode 2 of Island and I'm still completely lost. I sort of get the mysteries of the island and there's enough going to hold my interest, but it's like drinking from a firehose.

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Hataraku Saibou. Totally sold. Even though I already read the manga, I never thought a bumblingly incompetent overly expressive red corpuscle voiced by HanaKana would be so entertaining.

Opening: https://files.catbox.moe/vcjbf0.webm


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Post by: Matti on 08 July 2018, 10:30:12
The less I cared about what FranXX was trying to say, the more I enjoyed it. I suspect many people watching Franxx made the same mistake of reading more into the philosophical window dressing than was intended, & what Trigger was actually making with FranXX was Gurren Lagann II Electric Bugaloo guest starring Kill la Kill.
Thanks for summary. I considered watching it, but sounds like it isn't for me.
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Post by: Wrangler on 10 July 2018, 10:27:48
I was definitely one of those thrown for a loop by the tonality shift, but my main complaint is that the even watching it as a wacky mecha show, the overall execution of the fights in the second cour lacked the grandeur and spectacle of the earlier episodes. There are shows which can carry themselves through sheer spectacle alone. This wasn't one of them.

Overall, I feel sort of let down by Neon Tengen Toppa Kill La Buster.
I have to agree with comparison with Tengan, Kill la Kill and Gun Buster. Very end felt very much like Gunbuster.  I had issues with people merging with the mech and resembling it.  Overall the story was good one, as humanity had try pull fast one to make it through after being duped.

Trying catch up so badly, not been good Spring for me.  :P
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 10 July 2018, 12:36:09
New Overlord out today and it is off to a great start! Love the new Myth and Roid intro for this season.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 10 July 2018, 21:29:58
That badminton anime is really well animated!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Dies Irae on 10 July 2018, 22:11:54
Back Street Girls: Gokudolls is absolute trash but somehow manages to be more hilarious than it has any right to be.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 10 July 2018, 22:18:32
Trash how?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Dies Irae on 10 July 2018, 23:04:48
Trash how?

The whole central conceit of yakuza underbosses being tortured by their Oyabun and forced to masquerade as transgender Idol Singers as punishment for their failures is downright awful (at best). Execution wise, the animation is shoddy (Powerpoint the anime) and the 'plot' is questionable.

Somehow you can sort of sense the entire production team is in the audience with you laughing at the show they produced, which makes the whole package so terrible it takes on a certain charm of it's own.

I can't really tell if the intended outright mockery of idol culture and the suffering the starlets go through for their career was intentional or not, but if it was planned, bravo.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 12 July 2018, 08:34:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru7Dg6PDIb8
"Darling in the FranXX: Super Deep Anal'ysis"
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Maingunnery on 12 July 2018, 11:44:42
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru7Dg6PDIb8
"Darling in the FranXX: Super Deep Anal'ysis"
Darn have to log in.

But anyway at least, Darling in the FranXX is better than Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 12 July 2018, 12:08:47
But anyway at least, Darling in the FranXX is better than Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann.

(http://i.imgur.com/R88zjMb.jpg)
There's no such thing as a wrong opinion, but sometimes they sure feel that way!

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: mdauben on 14 July 2018, 12:26:26
Seems like another week without a new episode of FMP:IV.  Not sure why they are on hiatus but I'm missing my weekly fix.   :'(
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: marauder648 on 14 July 2018, 12:40:12
Is this an Anime?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_A5M7fFC6Y
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 14 July 2018, 12:48:19
You mean Azumanga Daioh? Or the one coppled together by the guy who posted that video.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 14 July 2018, 13:36:47
Azumanga Daioh, the original 4-koma slice of life anime! It's crazy realizing how long ago it came out!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: marauder648 on 14 July 2018, 13:39:42
Whats the anime where the guy suplexes a deer?

I must admit i've not been keeping up to date, hell the last anime I watched anything like properly was the Excel Saga which was utterly insane.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 14 July 2018, 13:42:58
Whats the anime where the guy suplexes a deer?

That's Nichijou, & if you like anime at all, you should watch it! It's HILARIOUS!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: DarkSpade on 14 July 2018, 15:15:35
That's been on my why-the-hell-haven't-I-watched-this-yet list for awhile now.  I understand a goat is suplexed as well.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 14 July 2018, 15:46:53
That's been on my why-the-hell-haven't-I-watched-this-yet list for awhile now.  I understand a goat is suplexed as well.

I want to say it was a Dragon Screw Legwhip on the goat, actually.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 14 July 2018, 16:01:06
Soooo are either one of those hosted on any of the subscription sites by chance or are they too old to be on them :-\
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 14 July 2018, 16:15:45
CR's license for Nichijou apparently expired in August 2014, or at least that's when they ceased streaming it along with a bunch of other stuff. Funimation supposedly currently holds the license, but is not streaming it (they'll refer you to buy the BDs).

Azumanga Daioh is from 2002 and was first released in the US by ADV in 2005...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 14 July 2018, 20:04:26
Robot Carnival just popped up on Amazon Prime, so I'm watching it right now.

I think maybe I should have taken some LSD first.

Edit: Had to give it up.  Didn't have enough LSD.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Dies Irae on 14 July 2018, 22:34:28
Two episodes in on Hataraku Saibou, I can say with some certainty that 'Osmosis Jojones' is a very tight adaptation of the manga and overall fantastic. The show maintains some fair quality on action scenes and is littered with little background scenes that are rooted in actual biological fact, and somehow manages to be simultaneously educational and entertaining. It also has the most adorable interpretation of platelets (https://i.imgur.com/RkcoapR.png) I've ever seen.

My primary concern is whether I will eventually get sick of HanaKana running away from things while screaming (https://i.imgur.com/I2xDKG9.png).

This seems unlikely... but..

---------------------------------------------------------------------

High Score Girl could also be VERY good. The focus on a middle school delinquent (Haruo Yaguchi) and his love of arcades, before he finds himself outdone by the surprisingly skilled (and violently abusive) Akira Oono. The show itself is well researched and feels very much like a love letter to (and an advert for) 90s arcade culture. I could see myself watching a lot more of this.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 14 July 2018, 23:38:28
What service is showing High Score Girl?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 15 July 2018, 02:12:08
Hi-Score Girl is the one that SNK had the offices of Square Enix raided over a couple years ago, right?

Warner Bros owns it for the US, which means it'll probably end up on Hulu at some point in the future.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 15 July 2018, 03:53:45
Looks like its going to be on Netflix... so maybe end of the year.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Dies Irae on 15 July 2018, 04:01:08
What service is showing High Score Girl?

Not sure about the US. Apparently Netflix has it so... whenever, I guess.
I watched it in Japanese on BS11.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 15 July 2018, 10:43:27
That's Nichijou, & if you like anime at all, you should watch it! It's HILARIOUS!
It's also available in English as My Ordinary Life. Seen it in anime club meetings. I'd rather watch Azumanga Daioh. Manga is cute.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 15 July 2018, 14:59:25
So, I've found the anime of the season, & it's called Shojo Kageki Revue Starlight!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhVBmCigacU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhVBmCigacU)

If you like Love Live &/or Revolutionary Girl Utena, this is their spiritual love child! A stunningly well animated work of girls within a theatrical academy battling to gain the Tiara of the Top Star! Top talent all around, gorgeous visuals, & some of the best directing I've seen so far this year! I've been rewatching the first episode over & over again since yesterday!  :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 15 July 2018, 15:09:02
If you like Love Live &/or Revolutionary Girl Utena, this is their spiritual love child!
More the latter, and in the sense of continuing the weirdness that followed Utena with Penguindrum and Bear Storm.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 15 July 2018, 15:17:34
More the latter, and in the sense of continuing the weirdness that followed Utena with Penguindrum and Bear Storm.

The director, Tomohiro Furukawa, was assistant director for Ikuhara on Yurikuma Arashi, so I think that's probably only natural!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 15 July 2018, 16:20:39
So it's another anime about talking animals that eat people as a metaphor for Japanese views on gender?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 15 July 2018, 16:35:05
So it's another anime about talking animals that eat people as a metaphor for Japanese views on gender?

Nah, giraffes aren't carnivorous, & like Love Live everyone here appears to already be a girl & not hung up on the yuri subtext!  ;D
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 15 July 2018, 16:47:12
I've seen the two first episodes of How to NOT summon a Demon King, and first episode Grand Blue Dreams and both a form of comedy.

While the isekai (summon from another world genre) is getting too much play. I still find Demon King amusing since i did read the manga.  Not sure how far they will get with this. This sort of Konosuba but its on different method.  Why it's harem type, the main character has to fake he's being cool where he in real life is a NEET type guy.  He indeed more powerful.  The humor blended with the story unfolding.  It's fan-service vehicle for sure, but it's funny at least to me if you try ignore some excessive stuff and slave thing.  :-\

Grand Blue Dreams...well it's college humor mess. It's good for good laugh, as this hopeless guy who was stuck in all male-high school hoping to start over in college is thrusted in this scuba clue of very male and acting dumb guys.  It not for everyone, i read the manga for this as well. It ok, it has it moments. So far the first episode has demonstrated it's kept it's edge in grade of humor the manga delivered.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: DarkSpade on 15 July 2018, 19:56:38
So, I've found the anime of the season, & it's called Shojo Kageki Revue Starlight!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhVBmCigacU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhVBmCigacU)

Wow, that was some horrible subbing.  Couldn't tell who was saying what when two are talking at the same time and it often didn't keep it all on the screen long enough for me to read it.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 15 July 2018, 20:05:30
Wow, that was some horrible subbing.  Couldn't tell who was saying what when two are talking at the same time and it often didn't keep it all on the screen long enough for me to read it.

Yeah, stream subs have gotten really awful of late it seems. Could it hurt them to set song lyrics in a different color/font than the dialogue & maybe not place it directly over people's face?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 15 July 2018, 22:57:52
While the isekai (summon from another world genre) is getting too much play. I still find Demon King amusing since i did read the manga.  Not sure how far they will get with this. This sort of Konosuba but its on different method.  Why it's harem type, the main character has to fake he's being cool where he in real life is a NEET type guy.  He indeed more powerful.  The humor blended with the story unfolding.  It's fan-service vehicle for sure, but it's funny at least to me if you try ignore some excessive stuff and slave thing.  :-\
If I were to choose one from manga or anime, which one do you recommend? Also does the NEET demon king ever kiss a girl?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 15 July 2018, 23:22:12
The first episode was a little flat to me, though the second episode was much better. Still don't see it being better than Overlord or KONOSUBA. Time will tell.

Oh well... still have 900 more episodes of One Piece to go anyway. Tuesday can't come fast enough.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Dies Irae on 16 July 2018, 17:03:01
Ōkami to Kōshinryō (Spice and Wolf) VR Anime due 2019 (Japanese) (https://twitter.com/spicytails/status/1018782354452574208)

"Independent development circle Spicy Tails announced on Monday that it is developing a virtual reality anime based on Isuna Hasekura's Spice & Wolf novels. Hasekura is writing a new scenario for the anime. It will have English subtitles. The television anime's voice actors Ami Koshimizu (Holo) and Jun Fukuyama (Kraft Lawrence) are returning. Yō Shimizu provided the concept art above and Masatoshi Sekai designed the logo."

English Announcement (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-07-16/spice-and-wolf-gets-vr-anime-in-early-2019/.134344)

(https://cdn.animenewsnetwork.com/thumbnails/max600x600/cms/news/134344/saw.jpg)

Not saying no to more Spice and Wolf.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 16 July 2018, 20:52:54
Ōkami to Kōshinryō (Spice and Wolf) VR Anime due 2019 (Japanese) (https://twitter.com/spicytails/status/1018782354452574208)

"Independent development circle Spicy Tails announced on Monday that it is developing a virtual reality anime based on Isuna Hasekura's Spice & Wolf novels. Hasekura is writing a new scenario for the anime. It will have English subtitles. The television anime's voice actors Ami Koshimizu (Holo) and Jun Fukuyama (Kraft Lawrence) are returning. Yō Shimizu provided the concept art above and Masatoshi Sekai designed the logo."

English Announcement (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-07-16/spice-and-wolf-gets-vr-anime-in-early-2019/.134344)

(https://cdn.animenewsnetwork.com/thumbnails/max600x600/cms/news/134344/saw.jpg)

Not saying no to more Spice and Wolf.

I am VERY interested in this!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 16 July 2018, 21:59:03
If I were to choose one from manga or anime, which one do you recommend? Also does the NEET demon king ever kiss a girl?
Manga

Anime fine so far, but depth manga gives you will not disappointed.

So if you watched anime first, you won't be disappointed by reading the manga.  ;D
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 17 July 2018, 10:55:13
Two episodes in on Hataraku Saibou, I can say with some certainty that 'Osmosis Jojones' is a very tight adaptation of the manga and overall fantastic. The show maintains some fair quality on action scenes and is littered with little background scenes that are rooted in actual biological fact, and somehow manages to be simultaneously educational and entertaining. It also has the most adorable interpretation of platelets (https://i.imgur.com/RkcoapR.png) I've ever seen.
For some extra fun...
An doctor's been commenting (https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/8z6vpb/hataraku_saibou_ep_1_doctors_notes/) on the ep, and is going to be making this an ongoing thing.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: mdauben on 21 July 2018, 22:08:53
I just finished watching episode 12 of FMP! IV and I have to say...

WTF?  WTF!?  WTF!!!
 
:ticked:

We waited how many years for another season of FMP! and this is the last epidode???

Someone please tell me they are already working on another season?  Please?  :'(
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 21 July 2018, 22:20:55
Really enjoying the current season of Overlord. But when i readed that there is an anime of Isekai Maou to Shoukan Shoujo no Dorei Majutsu.....the manga was awful, and the little i saw of the anime is even worse.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: VhenRa on 21 July 2018, 22:28:25
I just finished watching episode 12 of FMP! IV and I have to say...

WTF?  WTF!?  WTF!!!
 
:ticked:

We waited how many years for another season of FMP! and this is the last epidode???

Someone please tell me they are already working on another season?  Please?  :'(

Always gonna be a cliff-hangar. This section of the novels (and the manga adaptions and the anime adaptions based on those) is pretty fast and furious with the action and thus pretty much ends up on a cliff-hangar.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ghostbear_Gurdel on 21 July 2018, 23:33:28
I just finished watching episode 12 of FMP! IV and I have to say...

WTF?  WTF!?  WTF!!!
 
:ticked:

We waited how many years for another season of FMP! and this is the last epidode???

Someone please tell me they are already working on another season?  Please?  :'(
Just finished that myself and I Agree.  There better damn well be another season coming in the near future...


That said i really liked the little touch at the end, where the final credits song was the intro from the first season of FMP.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: mdauben on 22 July 2018, 07:50:58
Always gonna be a cliff-hangar. This section of the novels (and the manga adaptions and the anime adaptions based on those) is pretty fast and furious with the action and thus pretty much ends up on a cliff-hangar.
I can live with a cliff hanger, as long as there's another season coming, and not ten or eleven years from now. 

That said i really liked the little touch at the end, where the final credits song was the intro from the first season of FMP.
That was a very cool reference to the original season.

I was also thinking at the end, this was really a bit different than previous seasons of FMP!  Even if we ignore FUMOFU, the series up to now has been something of a balance of comedy and action.  This season was really pretty relentlessly dark from beginning to end.  Not that FMP! hasn't done dark before (the scene in The Second Raid where Sousuke killed Gauron in cold blood when he thought Gauron murdered Kanami) but it never seemed as overall dark before.

Still I really enjoyed Invisible Victory and I really do hope we see another season before too long!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 25 July 2018, 11:16:38
Netlix in the USA has recently posted the 2nd animatd Godzilla movie. It is called Godzilla: City on the Edge of Battle
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 25 July 2018, 11:37:02
Yeah, watched it last week.  Wasn't all that impressed.

Every time I see something with characters talking about evolution on an individual level, I want to track the writers down and beat them unconscious with a college biology textbook.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 26 July 2018, 09:21:25
It's based on a franchise involving a 100 meter tall mutant dinosaur powered by atomic radiation...and it's the junk science on evolution that bugs you? That's not even getting into the giant moth with mystical properties tied into the spirit of the Earth, or the two headed space dragon that shoots lightning.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 26 July 2018, 09:49:46
I'm willing to suspend my disbelief for giant monsters because giant monsters are fun and necessary for the plot.

But I'm really sick of evolution being portrayed as if it works like Pokemon, something that is absolutely not plot relevant here.  And given how poorly the general public understands evolution, depictions like this actually reinforce misconceptions about evolution.

It's annoying and it doesn't add anything to the movie.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 28 July 2018, 16:40:28
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Attack on Titan's author Isayama Hajime recently updated his blog and has revealed that there are going to be some changes made to the story in season 3 when compared to the manga. He admits that he wasn't exactly in great shape when he was writing volumes 13-16 so he explicitly expressed that he wanted the team to improve the plot in season 3. Which means manga readers are about to get a new and improved version of the story and anime only watchers should be even more hyped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q-amq_oXwA
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Dies Irae on 29 July 2018, 22:05:14
Ok. High Score Girl is great.
For what I expected was a 30 minute arcade advertisement masquerading as an anime nostalgia-trip, I was entirely unprepared for that emotional sucker punch.

Then I went and rewatched the OP and realised they telegraphed it entirely without context.

Also, it's a romance. I didn't see that coming.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 09 August 2018, 02:17:39

Recently had the chance to watch Wolf Children.  I can see now why it is recommended so highly and so often.


One of the things I felt that was very interesting about the film (for an animated film) is how Hosoda chose to hang on into some scenes a little longer than would have been typical even in an anime film.  Where another director might have cut a scene, Hosoda would linger on it or show more that was just strictly necessary to cover just the story or plot element at the moment.  It really made the story much more immersive and grounded to me.


I did of course make a really inappropriate joke during the scene when Hana and the unnamed wolf-man "get together" that earned me a whack from my wife...

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 09 August 2018, 16:57:05
I was also thinking at the end, this was really a bit different than previous seasons of FMP!  Even if we ignore FUMOFU, the series up to now has been something of a balance of comedy and action.  This season was really pretty relentlessly dark from beginning to end.  Not that FMP! hasn't done dark before (the scene in The Second Raid where Sousuke killed Gauron in cold blood when he thought Gauron murdered Kanami) but it never seemed as overall dark before.
You think THIS season is dark? It gets darker. There is no more screwball stuff. That was just a trick to make you love the characters and flinch every time one of them gets kicked in the balls. It is just a spiral downward into the secrets of the Whispered and the horrible heart that beats at the center of their reality.

Fortunately, it seems like they covered three LNs in this last season, so the next season should take us all the way to the end as there's only three more in the main series...

...Which I'm sure is scheduled to come out in 2024.  >:D


So far this season I'm in the same boats as most of you - Overlord III, Cells at Work, and High Score Girl. I binged the Overlord novels last month so it's still fresh on my mind to see the differences in presentation.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 10 August 2018, 23:48:03
Voltron Season 7's out on Netflix.  Given the events of last season, I'm very interested to see what this one's arc is going to be about.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 11 August 2018, 06:32:20
How is it so far? Haven't watched any episodes since the end of season 2.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 11 August 2018, 10:06:41
I love it.  It's really got good momentum and season arcs.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ruger on 11 August 2018, 15:39:13
I love it.  It's really got good momentum and season arcs.

Have they released past season 2 on DVD? I picked the first two seasons as a set from WalMart, but haven't seen any others...

In other news, I've purchased, but haven't yet watched, the Starblazers 2199 part 1 set...trying to get through two used sets of Dark Shadows first, as need to know by no more than 4 days from now if I needed to take them back...and at 40 half hour episodes per set, it takes a while to go through those...

Ruger
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 11 August 2018, 16:05:41
Checking Amazon doesn't show any disc releases beyond season two.

Given that the series is a Netflix Original, I don't think they've got much incentive to put it out on disc.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ruger on 12 August 2018, 07:04:06
Checking Amazon doesn't show any disc releases beyond season two.

Thanks.

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Given that the series is a Netflix Original, I don't think they've got much incentive to put it out on disc.

Other than to cash into the market of those that would like to see the series, but don't do Netflix or other streaming services...

Of course, I'm probably in the minority in that regard any more...

Ruger
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Øystein on 17 August 2018, 13:02:59
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4e2znCzQ3k

Mobile Suit Gundam NT trailer.

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 17 August 2018, 14:40:32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4e2znCzQ3k

Mobile Suit Gundam NT trailer.
Universal Century?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Øystein on 17 August 2018, 16:21:14
U.C. 0097, one year after the opening of "Laplace's Box."
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 17 August 2018, 16:43:07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4e2znCzQ3k

Mobile Suit Gundam NT trailer.

Very excited for new UC as always! Japanese twitter has been making memes about the somewhat comical new key art for the past couple of days:

(https://i.imgur.com/obQ2LTf.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/zbz1Rto.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cYoYJQT.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/qv7ZbmC.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Fjhfj8W.jpg)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 17 August 2018, 17:51:00
 :toofunny:

There's a joke in there somewhere but.... yeah, I'll just keep my mouth shut. :runaway:
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 17 August 2018, 18:08:09
Combining mecha- you're doing it wrong.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ruger on 18 August 2018, 18:45:07
In other news, I've purchased, but haven't yet watched, the Starblazers 2199 part 1 set...trying to get through two used sets of Dark Shadows first, as need to know by no more than 4 days from now if I needed to take them back...and at 40 half hour episodes per set, it takes a while to go through those...

Ruger

Well, I've now watched the part 1 set of Space Battleship Yamato 2199 twice now, and all I can say is...

I WISH I HAD PART 2!!!!

I absolutely loved this remake of the series, especially the choices of making the ship bigger, with a larger, more diversified crew...love the Gamillan ships, and the space battles between fleets is great...

Ruger
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 19 August 2018, 17:18:24
Crunchyroll and Funimation have it :P The also have part of 2202. Not sure when that is going to pick up again though...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 20 August 2018, 07:45:24
Crunchyroll and Funimation have it :P The also have part of 2202. Not sure when that is going to pick up again though...
Well considering that the 2202 "films" haven't been fully released yet.
Film #6 releases in Japan on Nov 2 (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-08-10/6th-space-battleship-yamato-2202-film-teaser-video-streamed/.135335). I wouldn't expect the final "film" to be released until early next year. Hell, the TV airing of 2202 won't begin until Oct 6 (mentioned in the linked article).

To be honest, I'm not enjoying 2202 as much as 2199. There are some cool concepts and ideas, but I kept feeling the narrative is going off the deep end. But then again, I've only seen through ep 10-12...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 20 August 2018, 11:32:26
I've trying get the time watch ep 10 and beyond.

Your right about them going off the deep end. Its like their trying use the wild craziness that Captain Harlock series was known for, where physics is thrown out the door. I'm not fan of that.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 02 September 2018, 10:51:07
I'll start with a quote by MadCapellan from this post (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=61792.210):
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First & foremost is audience projection - most teenage & young adult fans of manga & light novels tend towards shy introversion. A protagonist that's an outgoing alpha-male strikes many authors & fans as someone they cannot empathize with, & may in fact be seen as an unlikeable, grandstsnding jerk!

Equally important are Japanese cultural expectations regarding social propriety. Japanese culture lacks the sexual hangups common in Western cultures, but social interaction, particularly between sexes, is subject to substantial formalities. Aggressively hitting on a girl is considered vulgar, and a woman who responds to such behavior is seen as of loose morals. Relationships are carefully considered and agreed by the parties involved so as neither party loses face. Public displays of affection are considered rude performance rather than symbolic of true love. A man who demurrs when a woman makes an unwanted or inappropriate sexual advance is saving face for them both. In contrast, a man who makes an unsolicited sexual advance runs the risk of being accused of being a molester or pick-up artist, which would be damaging to his reputation.

Finally, there is the cynical fact that production companies wish to preserve the status quo to prevent the character goods for one or more female characters from losing demand & prevent fan backlash against divisive character choices (such as with Oreimo). While most fans despise inconclusive endings, in series where there are multiple popular heroines a decisive ending may split the fanbase & damage further opportunities for monetization.
I thought I had answered this before, but I couldn't find it. Anyway in good number of Japanese light/Web novels I have read lately male leads don't practice celibacy. I expected guy wouldn't initiate a kiss, but then in light novel How a realist hero rebuilt the kingdom (Kindle version) he kiss #1 girl, and in next volume they go rest of the way. Then in anime Death March guy actively pursues relationship and visits prostitutes. And in last month I found translated Web novel Gun-ota (shortened title), where guy proposes marriage to girl while they both are at age of 8! (They got engaged, then they got married with eachother +1 more girl, they enjoy all the benefits of marriage, and that was at half-way point!)

What the Hell? Have the Japanese authors finally realized that celibacy is overused concept in harem genre? Or has there always been variety and I have just missed it until now?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 02 September 2018, 11:39:52
Sounds like none of these were set in modern Japan.  That might have made the authors feel freer to do things a little differently.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 02 September 2018, 12:40:28
Different target audience spectrum for the most part.

Much like isekai has largely switched over from the original direct-transfer (often with the stereotypical "yuusha call" or other summoning) to a young-again- or other body modification frame (often with rebirth involved).
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 02 September 2018, 13:00:56
I'll start with a quote by MadCapellan from this post (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=61792.210):I thought I had answered this before, but I couldn't find it. Anyway in good number of Japanese light/Web novels I have read lately male leads don't practice celibacy......Have the Japanese authors finally realized that celibacy is overused concept in harem genre?

Not really. Of the three novels you mentioned, Realist Hero is the product of a very minor publisher, & Gunota is & Death March was an independent web novel of the type that often skew even further towards wish-fulfillment than the usual published fare. Death March to the Parallel World Rhapsody is the closest thing to a success of the three titles you've mentioned, having been picked-up by Fujimi Shobo for print distribution, but the setting is explicitly an MMO (Read: NOT REAL) so presumably a lot of social expectations don't apply.


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Or has there always been variety and I have just missed it until now?

It has always been there on the fringe of the seinen light novel industry. Rather than a new development, it's a product of the expanding availability of translated Japanese fiction that it's easier for Westerners to become aware of its existence.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 02 September 2018, 13:19:13
Death March to the Parallel World Rhapsody is the closest thing to a success of the three titles you've mentioned, having been picked-up by Fujimi Shobo for print distribution, but the setting is explicitly an MMO (Read: NOT REAL) so presumably a lot of social expectations don't apply.
Haven't read it, but what I said about it is in anime too. I have seen it mentioned that in original Web novel version of Sword Art Online things get hot, but didn't make it to anime.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 02 September 2018, 13:47:33
Hmm, given some of the stuff that did make it into SAO, I'm not sure that's a bad thing.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 02 September 2018, 14:00:04
Hmm, given some of the stuff that did make it into SAO, I'm not sure that's a bad thing.
Oh yes, there is an attempted rape at end of the first season. But I was talking about lead character, Kirito.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 02 September 2018, 22:26:28
I believe I know what Matti is referring to.
There is a supposed Chapter 16.5 (from SAO Vol 1) out there covering what may of happened between Asusa and Kirito after Kudgel's attempt to kill Kirito. From what I've herd about it, the author couldn't even write that reasonably well...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 03 September 2018, 02:05:44
It has always been there on the fringe of the seinen light novel industry.
TVtropes warning!
Being unpopular doesn't necessarily mean it can't be good (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ItsPopularNowItSucks) ;)

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Rather than a new development, it's a product of the expanding availability of translated Japanese fiction that it's easier for Westerners to become aware of its existence.
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Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 03 September 2018, 08:16:46
TVtropes warning!Being unpopular doesn't necessarily mean it can't be good

Well, sure! Different people like different things, so different stories are made for different audiences. Plenty of obscure fiction is awesome, & plenty of popular material is positively banal. That's true no matter what culture you are in.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: TS_Hawk on 03 September 2018, 10:46:07
Well considering that the 2202 "films" haven't been fully released yet.
Film #6 releases in Japan on Nov 2 (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-08-10/6th-space-battleship-yamato-2202-film-teaser-video-streamed/.135335). I wouldn't expect the final "film" to be released until early next year. Hell, the TV airing of 2202 won't begin until Oct 6 (mentioned in the linked article).

To be honest, I'm not enjoying 2202 as much as 2199. There are some cool concepts and ideas, but I kept feeling the narrative is going off the deep end. But then again, I've only seen through ep 10-12...

Ok if the movies are still not being produced or TV then what the heck am I seeing on Crunchyroll for 25minutes of the 2202 stuff dealing with the comet empire?

A question I have though is has anybody seen or read Gate Weigh Anchor manga?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 03 September 2018, 14:09:56
Ok if the movies are still not being produced or TV then what the heck am I seeing on Crunchyroll for 25minutes of the 2202 stuff dealing with the comet empire?
The movies are in production. What you see on Crunchyroll is an edit of those movies. Each movie is cut into about 4 episodes (e.g. movie 6 is episode 19-22).

The TV version will be an edit of the edit. With new OP/ED songs. Like with 2199.

A question I have though is has anybody seen or read Gate Weigh Anchor manga?
There is no manga, Weigh Anchor is a way oversized light novel. You can find samples of the two 500+ page tankoban released at Alphapolis, the publisher of Gate. Quite hefty price at 1700 yen per volume for the Kindle version too in my opinion (on Amazon Japan).
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 03 September 2018, 14:51:18
Weigh Anchor is a way oversized light novel. You can find samples of the two 500+ page tankoban released at Alphapolis
So those are just ordinary novels then? Original Gate books (in print) were also novels (5 volumes), and then those got cut in half to light novels (10 volumes).
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 03 September 2018, 14:53:31
They include some artwork here and there throughout it apparently (every couple dozen pages), which is more a signature thing of LNs.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 03 September 2018, 16:31:32
Revue Starlight - the long anticipated episode detailing Hikari's perspective dropped, & it was everything I had hoped it would be! I can't believe she just took out Nostalgia Emperess Nana Daiba! 8 episodes in & the music, the character directing & the fight sakuga is still knocking my socks off! It's going to be really hard for anything to top this for anime of the year at this point! You better bring your A game to Black Fox, Studio3Hz!!!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Dies Irae on 03 September 2018, 20:14:05
MadCappellan.
Thanks to your post detailing Azur Lane in 'And You Thought There Was Never an Anime Thread on This Forum!' back in 2017, I started playing it casually when the South East Asian server opened.

I hate you. This is all your fault.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 03 September 2018, 20:38:09
I hate you. This is all your fault.  :thumbsup:

Excellent! I'm glad to spread the love of ship girls world-wide!

Which is why I'm proud to announce that the game is now available in English on GooglePlay & Apple AppStore!

As for me, I'm slowly grinding out HMS Neptune from the World of Warships crossover event. I've already secured HMS Monarch. Once I've got Neptune, it will mean I've got every Royal Navy ship available on the JP server!

Screen-caps of my main fleets from a bit ago:

(https://i.imgur.com/wdkkNjP.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/G0H1MGm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pVDqR1b.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Se4cyXe.jpg)

Oh, I highly recommend HMS Nelson & HMS Rodney in any fleet. Their "Big Seven" skill's blast wave is just plain awesome!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 03 September 2018, 21:17:33
oh Im still in Chapter 3 or World 3. Terror's Infinity Darkness skill is very nifty when there's an intact wave in front of her. So much damage.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Dies Irae on 03 September 2018, 22:33:41
I'm generally impressed how generous this game is compared to most of the other gacha games I've played (including KanColle).
Only one that came close to flooding me with similar quantities of viable loot was the now defunct Muv-Luv: Strike Frontier.

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 04 September 2018, 05:41:44
oh Im still in Chapter 3 or World 3. Terror's Infinity Darkness skill is very nifty when there's an intact wave in front of her. So much damage.

Yep! All three Monitors have the exact same blast-wave skill, but the monitor's blast wave strikes only about a third of the screen. That's why I have Terror & Erebus paired in my 2nd Fleet so when they activate they'll wipe the screen clean on both edges!

I'm generally impressed how generous this game is compared to most of the other gacha games I've played (including KanColle).
Only one that came close to flooding me with similar quantities of viable loot was the now defunct Muv-Luv: Strike Frontier.

Indeed! Any of the general construction ships can be had really easily just grinding out construction cubes normally. Best I can tell, Bilibili & Yohstar are making their money via selling costumes & wedding rings, because there's really no reason to spend money to gacha, or even for stamina!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 05 September 2018, 10:30:11
I've recently started playing Azur Lane too, since the English beta showed up. I mean, no real reason NOT to, now.

I'm having fun with it for the moment, but I'm not sure if this will interest me long term. Beyond collecting them all, and beating the maps, I'm not seeing much of a game loop that'd keep me entertained and coming back over and over unlike some games I've played. I'm already on 'hit auto and let them play by themselves' for some things.

But then I'm on year 3 with Granblue Fantasy, so who knows? If they trickle out enough new stuff to keep increasing that 'get them all' urge, I'll be OK I think.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 05 September 2018, 13:27:41
Why are you talking about video games here? ???

There's a dedicated topic for them you know (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=52558.0).

I have started watching Real Girl. Anyone else here watched it? Should I keep going or drop it for something better?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 05 September 2018, 13:30:24
I have started watching Real Girl. Anyone else here watched it? Should I keep going or drop it for something better?
It's not that bad, even if it gets a bit tedious as it goes on. Season 2 confirmed for 2019 btw, live-action movie in theaters in Japan in two weeks.

... is there something better?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 05 September 2018, 14:00:33
About Real Girl
... is there something better?
Dunno... And you thought there is never a girl online? Recovery of a MMO junkie?

I've seen both of them and they're okay. For me at least.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 05 September 2018, 14:40:20
Why are you talking about video games here? ???

Probably because there's more overlap between "moe anthropomorphization mobage players" & "anime fans" than  "moe anthropomorphization mobage players" & "(video) Gamers".

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I have started watching Real Girl. Anyone else here watched it? Should I keep going or drop it for something better?

I thought it was decent & will probably watch the second half when it comes out. It suffered when it aired from running concurrently with Wotakoi, which is a similarly themed show about otaku dating but vastly superior.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 05 September 2018, 22:52:37
I thought it was decent & will probably watch the second half when it comes out. It suffered when it aired from running concurrently with Wotakoi, which is a similarly themed show about otaku dating but vastly superior.
Thanks. Since Wotakoi doesn't seem to be available in Crunchyroll nor in HIDIVE (at least not for me), I'll keep watching Real Girl then.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 06 September 2018, 11:34:47
Kadokawa's teaser video for Kemono Friends Season 2 published on Youtube 4 days ago currently has 4.4k likes... and 39k dislikes.

#NoTatsukiNoTanoshi still going strong.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 06 September 2018, 12:35:25
Probably because there's more overlap between "moe anthropomorphization mobage players" & "anime fans" than  "moe anthropomorphization mobage players" & "(video) Gamers".
And it's not like this thread is flooded with anime discussion these days, either. :D
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 06 September 2018, 12:51:11
And it's not like this thread is flooded with anime discussion these days, either. :D
Index III, Goblin Slayer, SAO: Alicization, Slime Isekai, Golden Kamuy S2, Ingress anime, new Fairy Tail and Jojo next season.

Discuss ;)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 06 September 2018, 13:04:01
I look forward to how much anime version of Goblin Slayer gets frakked up. How do we expect anime to handle the meat shields? I bet they'll have some clothes on at least. Possibly whole scene will be ditched.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 06 September 2018, 14:15:47
#NoTatsukiNoTanoshi still going strong.

Kadokawa should just pack it in. I get why they don't want Tatsuki anywhere near their IP, but I also get why fans don't want Kemono Friends without Tatsuki. There's no way the damage will come out in the wash, & Kadokawa never expected it to make a dime, otherwise they wouldn't have thrown it to some nobody 3D studio in the first place. It's over. You threw some chips on 7-black & the roulette wheel delivered. Pick up your winnings & move on before you take an avoidable loss!

And it's not like this thread is flooded with anime discussion these days, either. :D

Most of the shows this season not named "Revue Starlight" are pretty dissappointing. Planet With remains entertaining in a way that's kind of hard to describe, but Island's "Oh, shit! Cour's up already?" rush to something resembling a finale is making Silverlink's Rewrite look well-paced.

Index III.

Rewatching S1 & 2 right now in anticipation! I can't wait for the English Civil War & WW3 arcs!

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 06 September 2018, 14:26:37
Most of the shows this season not named "Revue Starlight" are pretty dissappointing.
I have to say there's some stuff this season i'm enjoying. Not mainstream though. Really have grown to like the ad-with-a-plot Isekai Izakaya for example.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 07 September 2018, 09:51:03

So I'm surprised there hasn't been any mention of the Crunchyroll "High Guardian Spice" controversy here yet.

Leaving out the more controversial aspects of the trailernot related directly to the show, I have to say I'm highly disappointed by what I've seen of Crunchyroll's attempt at its first original anime-inspired series.  Ellation Studios's art looks somewhere halfway between a Ghibli knockoff and Steven Universe, and the story from what we know of it is.. well... derivative.

"High Guardian Spice is a coming-of-age story about four girls: Parsley, Sage, Rosemary, and Thyme. The girls have been brought together at Guardian Academy to refine their magical talents and fighting capabilities to become guardians themselves. The description teases that the girls will be facing the usual trials and tribulations as they grow up while preparing for a powerful threat that could destroy them"

So... it's discount RWBY.  Literally there's nothing in that description that *isn't* RWBY.

Four girls,  with a common theme in naming, come together at an academy to become part of the elite fighting force against the bad stuff in the world.  Granted that's the general plot with different window dressing of a huge chunk of shonen series in general, but in this case,  it's exceedingly blatant.


Come on Crunchyroll; if you're going to try to do western made anime-inspired series, at least freaking *TRY*.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Dies Irae on 07 September 2018, 10:06:22
Most of the shows this season not named "Revue Starlight" are pretty dissappointing. Planet With remains entertaining in a way that's kind of hard to describe, but Island's "Oh, shit! Cour's up already?" rush to something resembling a finale is making Silverlink's Rewrite look well-paced.

I ended up pitching Island after 3 eps. Friend assures me that I'm better off abandoning ship and waiting on the VN.
Chio-chan no Tsuugakuro is another huge disappointment in that it needs to step up the overall level of absurdity. Playing it safe with a premise like this is a disservice.
Back Street Girls: Gokudolls is terrible but I sort of expected it. Bad in a 'so bad it's good' way.
Boku no Hero Academia is in holding pattern. Not great or terrible The arc isn't great but I sort of expected it to be that way as a manga reader.
Isekai Izakaya – Koto Aitheria no Izakaya Nobu is solid, if unambitious.

Hataraku Saibou made the season for me.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 07 September 2018, 10:07:24
Four girls,  with a common theme in naming, come together at an academy to become part of the elite fighting force against the bad stuff in the world.  Granted that's the general plot with different window dressing of a huge chunk of shonen series in general, but in this case,  it's exceedingly blatant.
(https://abload.de/img/215408ejff7.jpg)

"Release the Spyce"
( リリース ザ スパイス )

ASCII Media Works.
Starting in exactly one month from today on Tokyo MX, MBS and BS11.

Complete with Potter-inspired owl. Except the plot's apparently more along Index Railgun Judgement lines. Otherwise see the above summary in your post...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 07 September 2018, 10:15:20
So I'm surprised there hasn't been any mention of the Crunchyroll "High Guardian Spice" controversy here yet.

Not anime, not interested. People need to stop having a fit about things they don't like existing. It looks dumb, but it's not hurting me or anything I care about, so why be upset?

"Release the Spyce"
( リリース ザ スパイス )

You leave my moe yuri ninjas out of this! ;D I'm really looling forward to Lay-duce presents Yuruyuri Battles!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 07 September 2018, 10:17:01
Hataraku Saibou made the season for me.
That is also available in English you know: Cells at work
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 07 September 2018, 10:31:20
Yuruyuri Battles!
I thought that's what Saintia Shou (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Seiya:_Saintia_Sh%C5%8D) is for next season?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 07 September 2018, 10:54:05
I'll be honest, about the only show I've been following this season is the 2nd cour of Gundam Build Divers (Playlist link (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJV1h9xQ7Hx-zsp8lYI4dubgEeNia46mr)).
For what it is, Divers isn't bad. I had commented about the first couple of eps in the previous thread.
A few things I'll comment on about Divers:
The nice call back to the Build Fighters systems in the 1st cour and the big fight of the OO Diver vs. the Astray No Name
The large scale fights. While there have been a number of 5-on-5 or more fights through out the run (including the teaser), the combats have never really seemed the same, which is a good thing.
As for Saraha (SP?), I called it (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=58103.msg1400427#msg1400427)!
I'm not really sure I care for the serious power-creap of the special moves seen, but at least with the show set in a VR-scape, it can be justified.  At least ep 23 should showcase them used rather well.
The shout-outs. While mainly highlighting OO (10th Anniversary), Divers has been giving nods to everything Gundam.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 07 September 2018, 11:29:04
So I'm surprised there hasn't been any mention of the Crunchyroll "High Guardian Spice" controversy here yet.

The controversy is stupid. It's why I've made a point of ignoring it. Its their money to spend on their projects. If it does well, more power to them. If it doesnt...well maybe they'll learn something? As is, they're already sponsors for a bunch of other anime. Why is this NOW suddenly a problem now that they've taken a more commanding role?

And are people really complaining about things being derivative, or having theme naming? Have they ever followed the anime scene before?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Maingunnery on 07 September 2018, 12:17:49
The controversy is stupid. It's why I've made a point of ignoring it. Its their money to spend on their projects. If it does well, more power to them. If it doesnt...well maybe they'll learn something? As is, they're already sponsors for a bunch of other anime. Why is this NOW suddenly a problem now that they've taken a more commanding role?

And are people really complaining about things being derivative, or having theme naming? Have they ever followed the anime scene before?
As far as I have heard, some users are angry that their payments aren't used to pay/help the Japanese anime companies. They might have forgiven a good local anime, but this.....  xp
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 07 September 2018, 15:25:56
So I'm surprised there hasn't been any mention of the Crunchyroll "High Guardian Spice" controversy here yet.
Smell of BS is strong in this one (in "controversy" that is)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Dies Irae on 07 September 2018, 18:59:00
That is also available in English you know: Cells at work

Not trying to be elitist or anything, but I'm so used to people referring to shows by the Japanese name (or HatSai for short, in this case) that it just slips off the tongue.
Given Crunchyroll and other streaming services are generally rubbish in terms of liscencing and coverage outside US/EU, a lot of people locally are more used to just watching stuff direct off Japanese cable, that helps with the mental reinforcement.

Differs from location to location.

I'll try to remember I'm on an international forum.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 07 September 2018, 19:59:39
The controversy is stupid. It's why I've made a point of ignoring it. Its their money to spend on their projects. If it does well, more power to them. If it doesnt...well maybe they'll learn something? As is, they're already sponsors for a bunch of other anime. Why is this NOW suddenly a problem now that they've taken a more commanding role?

And are people really complaining about things being derivative, or having theme naming? Have they ever followed the anime scene before?

The controversial stuff isn't the derivativeness, etc.; Itis things I won't bring up to discuss here as it is across the rules line.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 07 September 2018, 20:24:11
The controversial stuff isn't the derivativeness, etc.; Itis things I won't bring up to discuss here as it is across the rules line.

No, he's right. That stuff's dumb too. Crunchy-Glitter-Force-or-whatever is what it is & people can watch it or not, just like anything else on a streaming service. It isn't "taking up a slot" that "should" be used for real anime, & streaming services regularly spend money on things that every member doesn't necessarily like. If people like it, great. If people don't, don't stream it. Who cares?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 08 September 2018, 13:40:56
Kadokawa published a trailer for a Kumo desu ga nani ka? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqu4D8P_oLQ) anime last month.

And even if it comes across more like the previous ads for the manga ([1] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsmtVutmUAY),[2] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYtlkSYxCGY)), the tagline for this one is 」アニメ化企画進行中 ("animation project in planning").
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 10 September 2018, 01:22:13
I found MMO Junkie to be better than Never a Girl Online.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 10 September 2018, 08:07:58
Kadokawa published a trailer for a Kumo desu ga nani ka? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqu4D8P_oLQ) anime last month.

And even if it comes across more like the previous ads for the manga ([1] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsmtVutmUAY),[2] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYtlkSYxCGY)), the tagline for this one is 」アニメ化企画進行中 ("animation project in planning").
the human eyes on her are weird for what she is currently...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 10 September 2018, 11:53:56
the human eyes on her are weird for what she is currently...
Well, she's not the animal form, but the (first) monster form of it from the start. Hence why the other adaptions also reduce the other six to just facial ornaments.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Dies Irae on 15 September 2018, 10:09:13
Probably because there's more overlap between "moe anthropomorphization mobage players" & "anime fans" than  "moe anthropomorphization mobage players" & "(video) Gamers".

And... now we're legit discussing a full anime as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZIJz3cx5M4

Motoki Tanaka's (Kinmoza!, The Fruit of Grisaia) studio Bibury Animation Studio has picked up the rights to make an Azur Lane adaptation. Jin Haganeya (Demonbane, Kamen Rider Gaim) will be in charge of the script.

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 15 September 2018, 10:12:31
What got the moe ship=girls trend started, anyway?  I mean, what was the first thing to feature them?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 15 September 2018, 10:20:58
What got the moe ship=girls trend started, anyway?
Kantai Collection I guess.

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I mean, what was the first thing to feature them?
Dunno about that.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 15 September 2018, 10:28:32
And... now we're legit discussing a full anime as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZIJz3cx5M4


Hip-hip, huzzah! You just beat me to posting this!!! I'm so excited to see what Bibury can do with this!


What got the moe ship=girls trend started, anyway?  I mean, what was the first thing to feature them?

Kantai Collection was the first ship girl property, which itself was inspired by Fumikane Shimada's Strike Witches, which itself was inspired by Mika Akitaka's Gundam Girl art series!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 15 September 2018, 12:00:44
which itself was inspired by Mika Akitaka's Gundam Girl art series!
And just to note, that was first published in 1982.

There was a lot inbetween Gundam Girl and Strike Witches (in 2005), although the 90s were mostly androids. In my opinion Bubblegum Crisis was one of the first switching from mecha-adorned moe females to moe androids over the run of its original OVA series, being quite marked about the differences too. Strike Witches basically was the switch back.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: DarkSpade on 15 September 2018, 16:28:21
What got the moe ship=girls trend started, anyway?

[stolen joke]

People like Moe right?

yeah.

And people like ships, right?

Yeah...

Stay with me,  what if...  The girls pilot ships!?

No no wait!  What if, the girls ARRRRRE the ships?

!@#$ BRILLIANT!

[/stolen joke]
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 17 September 2018, 06:20:50
Well High School Fleet has girls crewing the ships.

Kantai Collection isn't fav of mine, but everyone has their things they like.  A fan here did a Kantai Collection-style rendition of the Mjolnir's Yggdrasil.
Who heck they'd be fighting I'd won't know.  I'll will be happy be able watch anime on normal basis since my computer software decided said (I don't got enough memory to run your fancy videos, you are the biggest loser, bye!)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 17 September 2018, 10:46:18
Kantia Collection was a pretty dull series.  I thin the developers decided that the moe factor would be enough to sell so they didn't bother trying very hard on the plot.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 17 September 2018, 14:14:44
Kantai Collection had a plot. It was just a very thin retelling of the Pacific war up to Midway. Except this time Japan got to win. And cycles. Or something. But then, the game didnt have a plot to speak of, barring the event.

But then, Azur Lane's plot is mostly 'Let's let allied ship girls fight against axis ship girls', also retelling WWII. But at least we dont have the Japanese as the good guys this go around.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 17 September 2018, 14:23:58
But then, Azur Lane's plot is mostly 'Let's let allied ship girls fight against axis ship girls', also retelling WWII. But at least we dont have the Japanese as the good guys this go around.

*finger guns*
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 17 September 2018, 14:26:43
PS: South Dakota is my waifu!  8)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 17 September 2018, 14:42:11
I've got promise rings on HMS Rodney, HMS Queen Elizabeth, HMS York & HMS Vampire myself! South Dakota's really powerful, though! Visually & militarily!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 17 September 2018, 16:19:03
But but... Dirty Pair! Well... if it was related xp

In other news, S2 of One Punch Man in April 2019 (if anyone missed it)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Dies Irae on 20 September 2018, 20:35:28
PS: South Dakota is my waifu!  8)

The Anniversary Skin Wallet Raid.

Oof.

YOU WIN THIS ROUND, AKASHI!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 20 September 2018, 20:42:19
Bought the dresses for Queen Elizabeth, Monarch, & Ajax. Not even mad!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 21 September 2018, 10:25:49
The Anniversary Skin Wallet Raid.
Oof.
YOU WIN THIS ROUND, AKASHI!
Not yet available on the English version, sadly.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 24 September 2018, 14:22:06
So I read a new isekai novel that I was NOT expecting to be good, I just wanted to see what the hell it was about and make fun of how bad it was: "JK Haru is a Sex Worker in Another World."

It's two days later and I'm trying to figure out WHY, exactly, I liked it - despite being YET ANOTHER isekai - and write it down in a paragraph or so.

It's not anime and I certainly don't expect it to ever BE anime, but it's one of the most feminist stories I've read in five or six years despite being about a teenager forced into the world's oldest profession, and it's a good read to boot - she's snarky and funny, and I honestly laughed out loud half a dozen times. It takes a look at the generic male otaku wish-fulfillment isekai from the PoV of a high school girl used to doing things like eating alone at a restaurant or just walking around town without being harassed and says, "Okay, if your genitals are convex this is fine, but if they're concave it's a raw deal." It's not a comedy or a porno, it doesn't gloss over how perfunctory and mechanical the sex is from a prostitute's PoV, but her attitude of "This is a shitty retail job where I'm selling myself instead of DVDs, but I'm not gonna it do BADLY just because it sucks" is pretty great on a lot of levels.

I should have been annoyed by the "What a twist!" moment about 3/4ths of the way through the book, because it came out of nowhere and wasn't even hinted at until earlier in the chapter, but once again her attitude towards the twist really sold it for me.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Maingunnery on 24 September 2018, 15:05:02

So it is an original deconstruction isekai genre?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 24 September 2018, 15:54:20
So it is an original deconstruction isekai genre?
That's not a bad way to refer to it. I'd call it satirical, in a classical fashion; not a satire that HATES its subject matter, but one which understands and explores it in a sometimes humorous, and sometimes actually tragic fashion. One thing that gets mentioned is God has brought over plenty of Heroes to slay the Evil Demon King, not a one of which has succeeded - Haru and the otaku are just the latest in a series, and Haru has no particular urge to actually DO what God wants her to do. Doesn't really HATE Him, mind, but no real urge to go out and adventure - not that she can officially anyway, as only men can register to be adventurers!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 24 September 2018, 16:02:19
Sounds like an interesting read.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 25 September 2018, 10:20:43
I've been following the isekai genre, I won't lie say hate it. I enjoy it when done right. There so many though. Couple have made it to anime screen.

Another one I heard of is one called Reborn as a Vending Machine, I Now Wander the Dungeon.  He's a vending machine a super-strong girl hauls around.  It's comedy, but it's light novel so far.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Triptych on 25 September 2018, 11:05:05
Im currently watching the entire Outlaw Star series. I cant believe how close the material is to my space opera books- seems we hit on all the same tropes lol.

(https://i.imgur.com/EOaEPPS.jpg)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 25 September 2018, 13:11:26
Another one I heard of is one called Reborn as a Vending Machine, I Now Wander the Dungeon.
They're really into non-human isekai nowadays. Slimes, spiders, cats, dogs, bears, dragons, other random dungeon monsters, swords, onsens, vending machines...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 25 September 2018, 13:31:00
They're really into non-human isekai nowadays. Slimes, spiders, cats, dogs, bears, dragons, other random dungeon monsters, swords, onsens, vending machines...
Don't forget the goblins! And I do like the couple dragon ones: Dragon Life (Web novel) and Jaryuu Tensei (Web novel and manga (at least))
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 25 September 2018, 13:44:51
They're really into non-human isekai nowadays. Slimes, spiders, cats, dogs, bears, dragons, other random dungeon monsters, swords, onsens, vending machines...
The Slime one is really good.  I think the one about the Sword will get anime, but its not that far along to provide enough material.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 25 September 2018, 17:14:26
Which is the reason why "JK Haru is a Sex Worker" caught my attention, to be honest: all the non-human isekais being so popular and how, on even for those ones, they generally portray the new life as being some sort of upgrade. Even if there's downsides (you're a little girl fighting in a war because of a pitiless god who wants you to praise Him, you're a slime who only has touch and taste as senses), there's upsides too (you get to fly around and have super magical powers! You have a really cool ability that lets you befriend all kinds of monsters and eventually learn to overcome your lack of senses!), this one really just... was all of the potential suck with none of the blow, and the title made that pretty clear.

And Haru is bitingly cynical and hilarious about the whole thing. She comes across as very human, unlike a lot of the isekai heroes and heroines, and when bad things happen to her it makes you feel BAD, partly because it's described so casually.

But it's not technically a light novel. No illustrations. Not that there's a lot that COULD be illustrated in a SFW way.


One thing I've got ruminating on a notepad is a story where a fantasy world wizard dies and comes to this one - and considers it a great upgrade, so much so that she fights to keep it free and clear of the people from her last world, admittedly because wizards (including her) are tyrants who believe power equals privilege and this world is HERS now. Unfortunately, some of the attitudes I was using for the protagonist are the same as Haru's, so I may have to either rethink it a bit or go all-in.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 25 September 2018, 22:46:44
Im currently watching the entire Outlaw Star series. I cant believe how close the material is to my space opera books- seems we hit on all the same tropes lol.

(https://i.imgur.com/EOaEPPS.jpg)

Ah Outlaw Star...
Such a fun series. it's funny, Arkada/Glass Reflection recently did a review (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OQ67bSrP94) on the BD license rescue release.
What struck me about the review, is that while he did compare/contrast OS to both Bebop and Trigun, he kinda missed that OS did a fair job of threading between the seriousness of Bebop and the more antics of Trigun. And to be honest, of the three, I like OS the best with Bebop right behind.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 26 September 2018, 00:42:12
Gundam Unicorn just popped up on Netflix.  This is the first Gundam title I can remember them getting.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 26 September 2018, 13:24:19
One thing I've got ruminating on a notepad is a story where a fantasy world wizard dies and comes to this one - and considers it a great upgrade, so much so that she fights to keep it free and clear of the people from her last world, admittedly because wizards (including her) are tyrants who believe power equals privilege and this world is HERS now.
Reminds me a bit of a certain one where a demon lord decides to retire and moves with his daughter to this world - cue 10 year timelapse, and the daughter is a loner in high school, the demon hero is just being a single parent and then there's the problem with those heroes from the other world that followed them...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 26 September 2018, 14:02:01
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 26 September 2018, 14:17:10
I keep meaning to get around to Outlaw Star. Strangely enough, it came out when I was watching a TON of anime, and yet I never saw it... Is the dub decent, or is it a "watch the subs, for the love of the spirits?" situation?

But in newer anime...

Iä! Shub-Niggurath! The Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young! Bestow your blessing upon us!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8UNozXLO1Q

Man, Overlord did NOT DISAPPOINT THIS WEEK. Even knowing what's coming it was still pretty awesome to watch. And next week's duel is... epic.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 26 September 2018, 14:20:32
Outlaw Star's dub is decent.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ruger on 26 September 2018, 16:14:02
Outlaw Star's dub is decent.

Very much so...

Ruger
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 26 September 2018, 17:50:35
Outlaw Star was one of the dubs that Bandai did right at the turn of the millennium that's mostly held up.  The one issue I can think of with it is that the opening narration before the theme plays tends to be wordy and repetitive.  But thankfully it can be skipped without losing anything.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 27 September 2018, 03:01:11
Iä! Shub-Niggurath! The Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young! Bestow your blessing upon us!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8UNozXLO1Q

Man, Overlord did NOT DISAPPOINT THIS WEEK. Even knowing what's coming it was still pretty awesome to watch. And next week's duel is... epic.

Best line was "applaud my supreme power" lol
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 27 September 2018, 10:04:08
I liked the episode overall, but the bad CG just kept tossing me out of things.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 29 September 2018, 16:03:12
Upcoming Season:

Has anyone yet seen any plot synopsis for either Zombieland Saga or Akanesasu Shoujo / Girl in Twilight beyond what little is given as intro in and around the teasers that have been published ? Can't find any for the life of me. Though given Zombieland Saga is a Cygames production animated by MAPPA in coop with Avex Pictures it's something i'm gonna watch regardless of plot.


Surprising amount of non-isekai fantasy series next season btw. Adapted from all kinds of sources, from the relatively-known webnovel (Slime) and light novel (Goblin Slayer) stuff and, well, Fairy Tail via low-h series (Otona no Bouguya-san), a French manga series (Radiant), one that puts history through a blender (Ulysses: Jeanne d`Arc to Renkin no Kishi) and MMORPG adaptions (Han-Gaku-Sei Million Arthur) to a Strategy RPG game adaption (Merc Storia) and one that adapts a 90s Chinese RPG computer game series (Ken en Ken).

Not even counting the thematically related yet another Senran Kagura adaption, yet another Sengoku Basara spinoff, Thunderbolt Fantasy Season 2 or the 4-koma Beelzebub-jou no Oki ni Mesu Mama. Could only spot three isekai series by comparison, one of which is SAO Alicization, one is the lets-get-our-harem pregnant Conception and the other is a reverse harem bakumatsu isekai.

If you aren't into that kind of thing next season actually may look a bit bland. Not much else to go around. Some fishing in space, some time-travelling emotionally-stunted loner joining a school club, that "comedy" with the former soldier lolicon maid and her charge, and a lip-syncher and his ghost-singer. Oh, and Jojo. Well, and then the good stuff.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 29 September 2018, 23:00:48
a French manga series (Radiant)
What the Hell? I thought manga is done only by Japanese ???
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 30 September 2018, 00:28:18
I think that "anime" and "manga" have started being used as terms to describe a style of artwork rather than just the terms for Japanese created animations and comics.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 30 September 2018, 01:50:25
Amazon as realistically the largest platform globally selling books doesn't care. They treat their manga section as a dumping ground for virtually anything that isn't Marvel or DC.

Except on their Japanese site, of course, where Radiant is categorized as マンガ (comic).

The production company somewhat aptly calls what they release "euromanga".
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 30 September 2018, 06:07:24
Just finished Kill la Kill on a binge, and am disappointed netflix doesn't have the next season or two of Attack on Titan, yet.

Enjoyed both immensely.

Kinda wish there had been some dub work done, especially on Kill la Kill, because a lot of the sub-text flew by so fast, and I missed out on some interesting visuals at times.

Noticed that they're putting up a Gundam Series which I already watched on Crunchyroll a few months back when I could afford both.

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: DarkSpade on 30 September 2018, 08:04:31
What the Hell? I thought manga is done only by Japanese ???

I used to be hardcore, "If it's not from Japan it's not anime/manga!", but it's become very clear that that hasn't been true for years.   This video explains it better than I could.   It's about anime specifically, but could easily apply to manga as well.  "Foreign" manga just isn't as prolific as "foreign" anime yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFtfDK39ZhI
(nsfw because of language, but it's by no means excessive and only in the beginning.)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 30 September 2018, 10:22:54
I used to be hardcore, "If it's not from Japan it's not anime/manga!", but it's become very clear that that hasn't been true for years.   This video explains it better than I could.   It's about anime specifically, but could easily apply to manga as well.  "Foreign" manga just isn't as prolific as "foreign" anime yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFtfDK39ZhI
(nsfw because of language, but it's by no means excessive and only in the beginning.)

This guy totally lost me at "American anime". I've never heard that term used by any native English-speaker, & frankly it's a little silly. Anime, colloquially, refers to Japanese animation in the West. In Japan, it's a term that encompasses all animation, & native animation is simply referred to as "Japanese Anime". He similarly makes the ridiculous assertion that there are Japanese works of animation that aren't "anime", when if there is any quality of anime that makes it distinct from other animation, it is the fact that it is Japanese in source.

Technically, wholly Chinese or Korean animation productions aren't anime anymore than Spongebob is, but the presence of individual non-Japanese animators or sub-contracted in-betweeners on a Japanese directed project does not make the project non-Japanese.

When people try to assign the label "anime" to animation originating elsewhere, what they're trying to communicate is almost always "This is an animation that borrows heavily from the established visual styles & tropes extrapolated from the works of Osamu Tezuka.", whether or not they know enough about the history of anime to make that comparison consciously.  I find this short-hand inaccurate, however, because what results is almost never truly written & directed in the fashion of typical anime, but is an understandable & desirable fusion of Western & Japanese aesthetics. Ergo, I prefer to simply refer to them as "anime inspired cartoons".

All of the above equally applies to manga, which is a generic Japanese word for comics colloquially used to refer to Japanese comics in English. Korean & Chinese comics are Manhwa & Manhua, respectively, both terms in common usage in Western circles already. Radiant's own wikipedia article refers to it as a comic (bande dessinée), despite being heavily influenced by Japanese manga styles. However, just like Studio Ghibli's Arrietty is an anime film despite being based on the English book The Borrowers, the animated Radiant series is indeed a product of Japanese animation studio Lerche, & is properly termed anime.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: DarkSpade on 30 September 2018, 12:02:45
Did you stop at "American anime", or did you watch to the end?  I ask because if you did watch until the end, then there's no point in me repeating arguments already covered and we can agree to disagree.  If you haven't, I still recommend watching it as he makes some good points.

One thing he didn't cover is the evolution of language.  Not only do we gain new words, but old words have their original meaning expanded or outright changed.  American English also likes to use words from other languages and doesn't also retain the literal definition.   Anime is a great example of this.  As you said, in Japan anime just means animation, but that's never what the word meant to Americans.   We used it to refer specifically to animation from Japan.  We've since expanded it to animation from Asia in general.   I could expand on this further, but like I said, I'd just be repeating a argument you may have already listened to.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 30 September 2018, 12:22:50
Did you stop at "American anime", or did you watch to the end?  I ask because if you did watch until the end, then there's no point in me repeating arguments already covered and we can agree to disagree.

Yeah, I watched it, but his argument that "Oh, the internet changes everything" just seemed like a attempt to shore up his initial premise via sophism. There were plenty of Western influences in anime long before the 21st century, but even now most of anime remains deeply enmeshed in the culture of its creators, much as Western animators aping an anime aesthetic still produce works that are decidedly western in outlook. That to me is far deeper of a distinction than the fact that somebody decided to draw a cartoon in the US with an ongoing story & where the characters have big eyes & a small mouth.

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One thing he didn't cover is the evolution of language.  Not only do we gain new words, but old words have their original meaning expanded or outright changed.  American English also likes to use words from other languages and doesn't also retain the literal definition.   Anime is a great example of this.  As you said, in Japan anime just means animation, but that's never what the word meant to Americans.   We used it to refer specifically to animation from Japan.  We've since expanded it to animation from Asia in general.   I could expand on this further, but like I said, I'd just be repeating a argument you may have already listened to.

Well, clearly we're not expanding it, or most of us aren't expanding it, because his whole video was lamenting that most anime communities don't consider anime influenced Western cartoons anime.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 30 September 2018, 18:38:45
So I decided that I'd go ahead and sign up for Funimation's streaming service, something I've been considering for a while now.

I browsed through the library, and I've got to say that I'm a touch worried by the fact that Fanservice is listed as an entire genre.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 30 September 2018, 18:45:10
I browsed through the library, and I've got to say that I'm a touch worried by the fact that Fanservice is listed as an entire genre.

Look at it this way, hopefully that way you know what anime not to put on if anyone else is around?
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Post by: DarkSpade on 30 September 2018, 19:29:41
Look at it this way, hopefully that way you know what anime not to put on if anyone else is around?

lol  That would have been handy when I didn't live alone.   Used to run any anime I wanted to watch through a google image search first.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 30 September 2018, 19:47:27
Look at it this way, hopefully that way you know what anime not to put on if anyone else is around?

Ha!
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 30 September 2018, 21:50:57
Even some of the more mainstream anime such as Strike Witches you wouldn't want company around... might get some funny looks if they understand the age of the characters and then see the bath scenes. Or some rather suggestive scenes from other anime...

My daughter knows there is a difference between cartoons and anime and shes only 11. Though she finds it annoying I won't let he watch some of the stuff she see me laughing over but has a more mature subject matter.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 30 September 2018, 21:54:56
Strike Witches is especially fanservicy.
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Post by: iamfanboy on 30 September 2018, 23:32:48

Kinda wish there had been some dub work done, especially on Kill la Kill, because a lot of the sub-text flew by so fast, and I missed out on some interesting visuals at times.
There IS a Kill la Kill dub, and it's pretty good.

Strike Witches is especially fanservicy.
When the first fifteen seconds of that show shoved a loli's crotch into my face, I was done with it. I never cared that much about fanservice stuff even when I was younger; the more blatant it is now, the less likely I am to watch the anime. I think it happened around when the Queen's Blade anime came out and I could barely make it through the first episode without rolling my eyes so hard that I risked permanently blinding myself.

That was in... 2009? Ever since then it's been an immediate downvote, swipe away, whatever.

I mean, I've got no problem with hentai - I used to translate h-doujinshi for a few bucks on the side. But for some reason the halfway-to-porn tee-hee pantyshot boobybounce crap just annoys me more and more the older I get. Thank the Maker it seems to be going out of vogue a bit.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 30 September 2018, 23:50:57
I like some fanservice stuff, but Strike Witches was blatant about the fact that the characters were minors.
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Post by: Matti on 01 October 2018, 14:08:58
I mean, I've got no problem with hentai - I used to translate h-doujinshi for a few bucks on the side. But for some reason the halfway-to-porn tee-hee pantyshot boobybounce crap just annoys me more and more the older I get. Thank the Maker it seems to be going out of vogue a bit.
Hentai & doujin can't be rated for minors. Or is there some other explanation?
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 01 October 2018, 14:43:38
It's a complaint about ecchi works.
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Post by: kato on 01 October 2018, 19:36:14
Thank the Maker it seems to be going out of vogue a bit.
Actually i think that with specialized networks like AT-X and the nowadays far more common tease-the-audience-with-light-rays-for-BD-sales it increasingly goes in the direction where this kind of fanservice is sectioned off to a particular set of shows, becoming less common in general audience shows. There's still fanservice shows on general networks, but they're more condensed.

That "particular set of shows" by comparison though nowadays is stuff that wouldn't have been shown on any network five years ago, when the pantyshot boobybounce in general audience shows was at its height. And by that i mean mosaic in certain smut shows of which we've been having 2-3 each season the last 1-2 years, and which don't make it to overseas markets.
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Post by: iamfanboy on 01 October 2018, 22:37:03
Hentai & doujin can't be rated for minors. Or is there some other explanation?
Doujinshi can be rated for minors - a fair bit of it, actually. It's just that, well, to the average internet user the fan-drawn porn of copyrighted characters tends to be a bit more appealing than a sweet story about why Professor Utonium created the Powerpuff Girls or a gag comic where Peach and Daisy get snippy with each other about Super Smash Bros Brawl.

What that says about the internet is something that Avenue Q has already discussed.

I'm not going high and mighty; I've got nothing against porn. But I think that I disliked the booby-bounce stuff for the same reason I dislike the moemoe girl trope characters or faceslapped doormat male protag: It's LAZY. It's like Sailor Moon transformations taking up 10% of an episode to save money and effort, except amortized across an entire series.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 02 October 2018, 01:20:12
Okay, so now that I'm on Funimation, anyone want to make a list of recommendations to try?  Just what's on the "must see" list?

Also, for reasons that escape me, Dragon Ball is listed under the Fan Service genre.
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Post by: Ruger on 02 October 2018, 02:56:31
Okay, so now that I'm on Funimation, anyone want to make a list of recommendations to try?  Just what's on the "must see" list?

Also, for reasons that escape me, Dragon Ball is listed under the Fan Service genre.

On the latter, iirc, the whole reason for the original DB to be labeled that was Bulma...

There are quite a few Funimation shows worth watching; almost too many...it all depends on what you like...it has something for just about everything...

Ruger
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Post by: Tymers Realm on 02 October 2018, 06:52:06
Okay, so now that I'm on Funimation, anyone want to make a list of recommendations to try?  Just what's on the "must see" list?

Also, for reasons that escape me, Dragon Ball is listed under the Fan Service genre.

The dub of Space battleship Yamato 2199 & 2202 is on Funimation as Star Blazers 2199 & 2202.
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Post by: iamfanboy on 02 October 2018, 12:04:13
So is there any anime this upcoming season that really grabs anyone's attention?

Merc Storia looks like it combines some cuteness with some fantasy adventure - a monster tamer is helping a little water sprite trapped in a bottle regain her lost memories.

Goblin Slayer is coming out, but frankly I'm just not interested. Too grimdark for me to really want to watch with my own moods lately. It's not a bad series, just not exactly for me.

Studio Trigger's SSSS.Gridman is actually hitting broadcast, but I don't know anything about it. Still, I can't say I've seen a BAD Trigger anime.
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Post by: kato on 02 October 2018, 12:27:20
I have some hopes for Hinomaru Zumou becoming as good a sports anime as All Out!!, which basically casts the character concepts from that onto a -bu series. Animated by Gonzo with rather experienced staff working on it (throughout - from direction to seiyuu). Based on one of the long-running lead manga of Weekly Shonen Jump - one of the few not to have anime adaptions so far. Not sure if anyone outside Japan's picked it up, given the overall context i'd be surprised if not though.
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Post by: Matti on 02 October 2018, 13:51:49
Goblin Slayer is coming out, but frankly I'm just not interested. Too grimdark for me to really want to watch with my own moods lately. It's not a bad series, just not exactly for me.
I make a guess anime takes it down a notch, just like with Gate. Looking forward to how anime will frak up the meat shields.
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Post by: kato on 02 October 2018, 14:23:46
Has anyone yet seen any plot synopsis for either Zombieland Saga or Akanesasu Shoujo / Girl in Twilight beyond what little is given as intro in and around the teasers that have been published ?
In case anyone wonders Akanesasu Shoujo is pretty much a Yuuki Yuuna spoof so far in my opinion. With extra Sony product placement.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 02 October 2018, 14:27:51
In case anyone wonders Akanesasu Shoujo is pretty much a Yuuki Yuuna spoof so far in my opinion. With extra Sony product placement.

Soooo, right up my alley, then? Thanks!
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Post by: MadCapellan on 02 October 2018, 17:18:30
So is there any anime this upcoming season that really grabs anyone's attention?

All of it!

More seriously,

We've got Toaru Majutsu no Index III (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecd1qxlFR0A), finally taking us to the English Civil War/World War 3 arc!

PA Works doing what they do best with a reluctant time-traveling witch in Irozoku Sekai no Ashita kara (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1BgRdamGPw).

Yagate Kimi ni Naru/Bloom Into You (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Tua7jvQgUs), because there's never enough good yuri in my life!

Wherever there is little sister light novel shit, that's where you'll find me, thus Ore ga Suki nano wa Imoto Dakedo Imoto Ja Nai!/The One I Love Is My Little Sister But Not! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yic4dPvO5Zg)

Namori (Yuruyuri) & Takahiro (YuYuYu) collaboration about adorable ninjas?!?! Yes, please! RELEASE THE SPYCE! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llb1DyiInKY)

Adorable Dogakobo anime make me feel alive, so Anima Yell! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zteWDirzE0) it is!

Finally, all of a sudden Double Decker (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXOLdO60xdU) is catching my eye. It appears to be reviewing well & has a very old-school Gonzo quality about it which I find intriguing. No telling if it can actually live up to it, though!
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Post by: Charlie Tango on 03 October 2018, 08:40:27

Just saying... I love Hulu.

We ditched cable and went with Hulu TV; this gave me access to lots and lots and lots of anime I didn't have access to before.


Right now in the midst of binge watching My Hero Academia; now I understand why so many people love this series,
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Post by: Matti on 03 October 2018, 11:47:58
Goblin Slayer trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RNRzJCHt0g)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ghostbear_Gurdel on 03 October 2018, 20:11:09
Goblin Slayer trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RNRzJCHt0g)
You knlow when that starts? that looks interesting...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 03 October 2018, 20:26:33
Always nice to see more little sisters :D

And Goblins!

But what about.... Goblin Sisters?!?!?! Ehh? Uh, eww? Nevermind. Now I can't get the image out of my head!! xp :bang:
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Weirdo on 03 October 2018, 22:17:59
If having a small monster as a sibling is a novel mental image for you, you never had an actual little sister.

We get along swimmingly these days, but back when we lived under the same roof...brr...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 03 October 2018, 22:40:13
Always nice to see more little sisters :D

And Goblins!

But what about.... Goblin Sisters?!?!?! Ehh? Uh, eww? Nevermind. Now I can't get the image out of my head!! xp :bang:
In that case, what you want is Re:Monster
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Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 04 October 2018, 07:10:24
Always nice to see more little sisters :D

And Goblins!

But what about.... Goblin Sisters?!?!?! Ehh? Uh, eww? Nevermind. Now I can't get the image out of my head!! xp :bang:
in Goblin Slayer, the goblins are all male.... haven't you wondered why they "ravished" women?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 04 October 2018, 09:56:27
Always nice to see more little sisters :D

And Goblins!

But what about.... Goblin Sisters?!?!?! Ehh? Uh, eww? Nevermind. Now I can't get the image out of my head!! xp :bang:
I've seen some pretty cute goblin designs...
https://gbf.wiki/images/9/98/Goblin_Mage_A.png
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Post by: MadCapellan on 04 October 2018, 10:08:19
The Granblue artists are truly a blessing on thia world!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 04 October 2018, 12:22:38
in Goblin Slayer, the goblins are all male.... haven't you wondered why they "ravished" women?
In Re:Monster is female goblins, but they still prefer humans and elfs. What comes to Goblin Slayer, we haven't seen female goblin. Doesn't mean such wouldn't exist. It is also possible for male and female goblins to look alike. Or: can you (or most humans) tell animals apart?
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Post by: Daemion on 04 October 2018, 14:59:10
There IS a Kill la Kill dub, and it's pretty good.

If it's on any other pay streaming service other than netflix at the moment, I'll have to wait. I can only get away with one or two at a time.

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Post by: kato on 04 October 2018, 15:51:16
So, anyone checked out the new idol anime this season yet?
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Post by: MadCapellan on 04 October 2018, 16:20:23
So, anyone checked out the new idol anime this season yet?

The SideM short? I loved SideM, but I haven't even watched all of Puchimas! Shorta have a hard time holding my interest....
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Post by: kato on 04 October 2018, 16:21:28
Nope, the one that started streaming today on CR ;-)
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Post by: MadCapellan on 04 October 2018, 17:20:18
You mean Zombieland Saga? Sorry, just the word zombie makes my eyes roll back in my head.....
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 04 October 2018, 19:32:49
If having a small monster as a sibling is a novel mental image for you, you never had an actual little sister.

We get along swimmingly these days, but back when we lived under the same roof...brr...

Nope, only a little brother which was bad enough. Though I actually DO have a pair of younger half sisters that I met a few years back. Along with a pair of half brothers as well...  My egg donor wasn't the greatest. Soooo glad I was adopted.

I've seen some pretty cute goblin designs...
https://gbf.wiki/images/9/98/Goblin_Mage_A.png

Looks more like a half hobbit/elf than a goblin. Or at least what is normally portrayed as a goblin.

Haven't really looked into this season though. Haven't been rather motivated by much lately except Overlord... even for the shows that I like :-[ :-\ :'(
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Post by: Istal_Devalis on 05 October 2018, 14:35:49
You mean Zombieland Saga? Sorry, just the word zombie makes my eyes roll back in my head.....
If it helps, it's very much black humor/idol satire rather then traditional Zombie Horror.
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Post by: Charlie Tango on 06 October 2018, 15:35:32

Saw something about this on Twitter today... Isekai Quartet (http://isekai-quartet.com/)


Looks like chibi versions of characters from of different isekai shows together.  Chibi Tanya is adorable...
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Post by: Darth Nichos on 06 October 2018, 18:20:56
The Saga of Tanya the Evil; I really feel like I am watching an incarnation of Ciaphas Cain
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 06 October 2018, 18:33:15
I don't understand the appeal of Tanya the Evil.

She's a completely unsympathetic character who's allegedly a genius but really wins just because she's boringly overpowered and a "war" with another unsympathetic character
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Post by: Matti on 06 October 2018, 23:35:26
Funimation shares Goblin Slayer with Crunchyroll, I watched first 9 minutes of it, and it isn't bad. "They changed it, now it sucks" trope avoided! Gotta head to work now (dammit!) and I'll watch rest of it in the evening.
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Post by: Matti on 07 October 2018, 10:47:55
Funimation shares Goblin Slayer with Crunchyroll, I watched first 9 minutes of it, and it isn't bad. "They changed it, now it sucks" trope avoided! Gotta head to work now (dammit!) and I'll watch rest of it in the evening.
Done. Then I watched it again with Kindle version of the manga in my tablet for comparison. Anime has less of nudity, but most of the rest are in there (not chopped off arm though). I say I expected worse, but I'm pleasantly surprised of the adaptation. Anyway anime's censorship could have been whole lot worse. At least it don't have white paint plastered around like in Argevollen and The Fruit of Grisaia. I look forward to disc versions.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 07 October 2018, 11:05:33
New A Certain Scientific Railgun anime announced! (https://fast.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-10-07/a-certain-scientific-railgun-gets-3rd-anime-season/.137838)

New A Certain Scientific Accelerator anime announced! (https://fast.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-10-07/a-certain-scientific-accelerator-manga-gets-tv-anime-in-2019/.137837)

Looks like peak Kadokawa anime is back!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 07 October 2018, 12:20:22
I don't understand the appeal of Tanya the Evil.

She's a completely unsympathetic character who's allegedly a genius but really wins just because she's boringly overpowered and a "war" with another unsympathetic character
How much have you watched this anime? There is more to her than that. When she leads training in the mountains, soldiers are so scared of her they don't dare to give up and finish the training against her expectations. In last episode, intelligence officer (one with the glasses) looks ready to wet his pants as Tanya tells him about irrationality and madness of humans while sipping coffee. And her past life as a Japanese man managing human resources... He seems as ruthless and merciless as Jack Tramiel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Tramiel). Do you know what Jack Tramiel was called? Darth Vader, "but he don't need the Force".

Tanya is Jack Tramiel and Darth Vader in adorable loli package, who desires peaceful and comfortable life. Not like her commanders and enemies care about what she wants.

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And war is Hell. Anime gets that right.

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And another thing: Tanya makes for a change to protagonists who win by power of angst like Kai Allard-Liao. I much rather watch Tanya than Kai's carbon copies.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 07 October 2018, 12:34:30
Yes, that's what she says.  She's also a bloodthirsty lunatic who somehow inspires devotion by threatening to kill her underlings.  She has no empathy for other people.  She's completely selfish, goes out of her way to cause civilian casualties, and rules-lawyers everything.  She's claimed to be a skilled strategist because she's got (basic) knowledge of 21st Century strategy but every single fight just shows her winning because she's absurdly overpowered compared to all her opponents, and not just magically given that on several occasions she's able to physically overpower grown men despite the fact that she weights maybe 50 lbs soaking wet.  The whole thing plays out like one big author tract.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 07 October 2018, 12:42:42
I didn't bother watching because the entire premise of her character seemed completely unlikable. "Just murder/threaten everyone." doesn't sound like much of a strategy, though.
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Post by: Matti on 07 October 2018, 12:46:55
She's claimed to be a skilled strategist because she's got (basic) knowledge of 21st Century strategy
Which is far ahead of known strategies for the generals in a setting resembling World War 1.

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but every single fight just shows her winning because she's absurdly overpowered compared to all her opponents
Strategy is done before the fights. Amateurs discuss tactics, professionals discuss logistics.

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and not just magically given that on several occasions she's able to physically overpower grown men despite the fact that she weights maybe 50 lbs soaking wet.
In number of fantasy settings (and not just in Japanese made ones) magic is also used to reinforce body strength. May also apply for Tanya.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 07 October 2018, 12:56:49
Which is far ahead of known strategies for the generals in a setting resembling World War 1.
Strategy is done before the fights. Amateurs discuss tactics, professionals discuss logistics.

Okay, for the sake of clarification, since I haven't really seen this title -

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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 07 October 2018, 13:05:34
Tanya is repeatedly stated to be a genius, but she never outwits any opponents, she just uses overwhelming brute force.
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Post by: Matti on 07 October 2018, 13:06:07
I didn't bother watching because the entire premise of her character seemed completely unlikable. "Just murder/threaten everyone." doesn't sound like much of a strategy, though.
Same can be said about Darth Vader, and he has fan base. As does good number of other villains.

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  • Clausewitz's On War was published in 1832 - the focus on logistical planning to achieve strategic objectives was well understood by the end of the 19th century. How is this an innovation of Tanya? Does this world have no Clausewitz?
Hasn't been explained in anime, and original (light novel) author may not know about it. Also good number of real generals had incomplete understanding about handling logistics in Second World War: German generals wanted Moscow while oil fields near Stalingrad were much more vital for war effort.

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  • If Tanya's primary genius is logistical, is this something we're shown in the series, or just something that's handwaved with a line or two of dialogue?
The latter, pretty much.

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  • If she's a logistical officer, why is she commanding a small team of magic using commandos?
Tanya wants to be logistical or intelligence officer, but her commanders decided otherwise.

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If she's commanding a team of magic using commandos, isn't that by its very nature a tactical command?[/li][/list]
Yes. That is her position as decided by the generals.

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Clarification: When Tanya has something to say, some generals tend to listen. Number of times she presents targets and plans of attack, and those get approved (not every time though). That's why she is called genius.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Maingunnery on 07 October 2018, 13:16:32
Yes, that's what she says.  She's also a bloodthirsty lunatic who somehow inspires devotion by threatening to kill her underlings.  She has no empathy for other people.  She's completely selfish, goes out of her way to cause civilian casualties, and rules-lawyers everything.  She's claimed to be a skilled strategist because she's got (basic) knowledge of 21st Century strategy but every single fight just shows her winning because she's absurdly overpowered compared to all her opponents, and not just magically given that on several occasions she's able to physically overpower grown men despite the fact that she weights maybe 50 lbs soaking wet.  The whole thing plays out like one big author tract.
She attacks her enemies in ruthless and unexpected ways, but tries to follow the rules. People who break the rules, get no mercy from her in return.
However her true opponent aren't the enemy soldiers, but it is "Being X". Being X gave her the extremely powerful magic, but is fully willing to use everything/everyone in that world to make Tanya submit to him. 
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Post by: Matti on 07 October 2018, 13:22:58
She attacks her enemies in ruthless and unexpected ways, but tries to follow the rules. People who break the rules, get no mercy from her in return.
Good point.

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However her true opponent aren't the enemy soldiers, but it is "Being X". Being X gave her the extremely powerful magic, but is fully willing to use everything/everyone in that world to make Tanya submit to him.
TVtropes warning! Religion reference warning!
See this trope (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JerkassGods)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Maingunnery on 07 October 2018, 13:25:57

Also Tanya has a bit of a journey in the story, she used to expect the world/people to behave rationally.
This is used for comedic effect, when her predictions (world/people) turned out to be wrong.
At the end of the anime she had gained a far better understanding of other people then she had before.
And at the same time she was also confronted by the limits of her power.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 07 October 2018, 13:37:42
Also Tanya has a bit of a journey in the story, she used to expect the world/people to behave rationally.
This is used for comedic effect, when her predictions (world/people) turned out to be wrong.
At the end of the anime she had gained a far better understanding of other people then she had before.
And as she talks about it in casual manner while sipping coffee, intelligence officer (one with the glasses) looks ready to wet his pants.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 07 October 2018, 13:47:36
She attacks her enemies in ruthless and unexpected ways, but tries to follow the rules. People who break the rules, get no mercy from her in return.
However her true opponent aren't the enemy soldiers, but it is "Being X". Being X gave her the extremely powerful magic, but is fully willing to use everything/everyone in that world to make Tanya submit to him.

She makes a show of following the letter of the rules while exploiting them, the essence of rules-lawyering.  Like when she issues a warning to enemy civilians, knowing full well that they won't take her high-pitched girlish voice seriously, then slaughters them all when they don't leave.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 07 October 2018, 13:51:33
Same can be said about Darth Vader, and he has fan base. As does good number of other villains.

Not really much of a Darth Vader fan, but I don't believe he's ever been described as a genius strategist. Strong warrior, best starfighter pilot in the galaxy, but there's a reason Tarkin was in charge of the Death Star, not Vader. Most of Vader's decisions are just based on Force intuited hunches.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Maingunnery on 07 October 2018, 14:21:53
She makes a show of following the letter of the rules while exploiting them, the essence of rules-lawyering.  Like when she issues a warning to enemy civilians, knowing full well that they won't take her high-pitched girlish voice seriously, then slaughters them all when they don't leave.
And?
Others would not even have bothered with a warning, others fight a lot dirtier and she is happy to punish them for it.
And after the factory, everyone will take her and any other warning serious.


edit: She is not a nice person, but is willing to play within the rules to get the best result. Which makes her a type of lesser evil, and if a superior officer understood her, then she would be manageable. She does however take pleasure at ruthlessly punishing others for 'under performance' or non-professional behavior.
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Post by: Matti on 07 October 2018, 14:45:42
edit: She is not a nice person, but is willing to play within the rules to get the best result. Which makes her a type of lesser evil
TVtropes warning!
Term is lawful evil (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LawfulEvil)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 07 October 2018, 14:50:22
She is absolutely not a lesser evil.  She is needlessly cruel and takes pleasure in murdering people when she doesn't have to- she knew the workers wouldn't take her warning seriously because she sounds like a child (and she deliberately gave it in a more childish voice than she normally uses).  Had she wanted, she could have ordered one of her subordinates to issue the warning instead.  She willingly commits atrocities while excusing her actions as "just following orders."
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Post by: Maingunnery on 07 October 2018, 15:15:11
She is absolutely not a lesser evil.  She is needlessly cruel and takes pleasure in murdering people when she doesn't have to- she knew the workers wouldn't take her warning seriously because she sounds like a child (and she deliberately gave it in a more childish voice than she normally uses).  Had she wanted, she could have ordered one of her subordinates to issue the warning instead.  She willingly commits atrocities while excusing her actions as "just following orders."
Sorry man, but that was a military factory, not even most nations today will bother with a warning or consider it a atrocity.
The closest thing to an atrocity that she had done, would be Arene City, which was in response to the use of illegal combatants.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 07 October 2018, 15:21:46
And this conversation just veered straight into rule 4.  Not going to continue it.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 07 October 2018, 17:26:33
In other anime news, watched the zombie idol anime and found it amusing. Didn't think I would like it at all but was surprised the first episode was enjoyable. Could be worth watching the first and second (or full 3 ep try) episodes for some of you still on the fence.

I do think I will enjoy That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime and Goblin Slayer though. Both were pretty good so far.

Last item, does anyone know if any of the services have the Irregular at Magic HS movie that came out last/this year?
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Post by: Daemion on 08 October 2018, 22:02:07
I didn't bother watching because the entire premise of her character seemed completely unlikable. "Just murder/threaten everyone." doesn't sound like much of a strategy, though.

That happens. Characters are only as smart as the people who write them. It doesn't help when a character in a show has to be called extremely smart.  If you can buy that and roll with it, the show might work.  If you can't, you can't.

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Post by: MadCapellan on 10 October 2018, 14:01:35
I haven't even seen ImoImo yet, but even if it's total garbage, I'll be forever thankful that it got Sister Princess trending on JP twitter in 2018!  ;D
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Post by: Matti on 11 October 2018, 13:17:14
At the moment of typing this, Crunchyroll has gathered 144 reviews for Goblin Slayer and average score is 4.3. 5 star reviews dominate by landslide. In the comments is a noisy bunch insulting those who enjoy the anime and defend it. Twitter and YouTube seems to be much the same.
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Don't watch Goblin Slayer, it has rape!
This forum is heavily moderated, but be warned if you discuss about Goblin Slayer anywhere else. Speaking about which, am I only one in this forum who has watched it?
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Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 11 October 2018, 13:39:00
At the moment of typing this, Crunchyroll has gathered 144 reviews for Goblin Slayer and average score is 4.3. 5 star reviews dominate by landslide. In the comments is a noisy bunch insulting those who enjoy the anime and defend it. Twitter and YouTube seems to be much the same.This forum is heavily moderated, but be warned if you discuss about Goblin Slayer anywhere else. Speaking about which, am I only one in this forum who has watched it?
I read the manga and Light Novel (thank you Amazon Kindle).
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Post by: Matti on 11 October 2018, 13:46:49
I have read manga (also Kindle version). Does light novels have something manga doesn't?
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Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 11 October 2018, 13:53:02
I have read manga (also Kindle version). Does light novels have something manga doesn't?
a little more depth, you get to know about the "Gods" a bit more and earlier. And characters' inner monologues. I also got to watch the first episode. The rape scene is not as explicit, because the Anime turn away from the actual act itself. Of course there is ENOUGH context to know it is a rape.
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Post by: Matti on 11 October 2018, 14:28:43
Copy-paste from Twitter:
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Goblin Slayer: shows implied rape and brutal cartoon murders off camera.

NPCs: “I’m offended! Ban this!”

Game of Thrones: Full frontal rape scenes and extreme gore and on camera violence:

Same NPCs: “omg this is such a smart show! I’m smart!More please!”
:lol: :ugly_stupid:
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Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 11 October 2018, 15:22:05
Copy-paste from Twitter::lol: :ugly_stupid:
yeeeeeep. Shows there's a certain bias going on there.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 11 October 2018, 22:25:32
Speaking about which, am I only one in this forum who has watched it?

I watched and am annoyed I have to wait so long for the next episode :ticked:
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Post by: Matti on 12 October 2018, 05:35:49
I watched and am annoyed I have to wait so long for the next episode :ticked:
You can read manga or novels. With Kindle versions you don't have to wait too long either
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 12 October 2018, 09:28:21
It DOES have rape. That's an issue a lot of people have problems with, for obvious reasons.
And PLENTY of people have criticized Game of Thrones over it to, too.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 12 October 2018, 09:48:14
Let's not pretend the HBO audience & the fantasy anime audiences are the same, they're quite clearly not.

Goblin Slayer falls into that same category of entertainment as other shows I don't like such as Muv-Luv Alternative, Attack on Titan & Gantz that rely on visceral portayals of torment to wring an emotional reaction out of viewers. It's a very heavy-handed story-telling method that I don't find entertaining or particularly clever, but ultimately, what works for any particular viewer is always somewhat subjective.

I can respect people's legitimate complaints that they weren't warned about the content, but just because one is upset by the content doesn't mean others shouldn't be allowed to view it. Everyone's taste is distasteful to someone.
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Post by: Matti on 12 October 2018, 10:02:10
It DOES have rape. That's an issue a lot of people have problems with, for obvious reasons.
Rape hasn't been denied. Actually, it has been denied: "Implied rape, off the screen" or something like that. But outrage over it borders comical. Particularly when those thinking of being in moral high ground throw insults. Manga has been around for a while, rape in it is ON THE SCREEN, and there hasn't been much (if any) complaints about it :screw_loose:
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 12 October 2018, 10:17:27
In the US especially, there's a different audience between manga readers and people who just watch the animes.

You know, maybe we should choose a different thing to focus on than complaining about people who complain about rape?
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Post by: Weirdo on 12 October 2018, 10:29:22
You know, maybe we should choose a different thing to focus on than complaining about people who complain about rape?

In Ogre Veritas!
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Post by: kato on 12 October 2018, 10:33:00
Let's discuss how beatboxing is related to death metal instead.

And yes, that's on topic.
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Post by: Matti on 12 October 2018, 11:35:39
Another new anime I have got into is UzaMaid! Former sergeant major of JSDF is looking for a job and ends up serving as a maid for single father and his daughter. Daughter is shut-in and total tsundere, but father is totally charmed by strong battle maid and how she puts up with unruly daughter who has driven off a number of previous maids. I'm charmed too! Oh, new episode!


Let's discuss how beatboxing is related to death metal instead.

And yes, that's on topic.
Let me guess: Zombie Land Saga. I'm in the same boat with MadCapellan: no zombies xp
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Post by: iamfanboy on 12 October 2018, 17:31:24
So I found something that I didn't know exists, and for some reason I'm not happy about it:

Attack on Titan Junior High.

I'm no stranger to parody anime - I like Rock Lee Go! a fair bit, even if the one-note they chose for some characters like Tsunade annoys me - but something about doing a 'lighthearted school days' parody of Attack On Titan, a really grim and nihilistic horror story in oh so many ways, just feels incorrect.

Plus, it's not funny. I rarely say that as a flat statement, because what other people find funny I sometimes don't, but it's not funny at all. It is, basically, the AoT characters as junior highschoolers in Tokyo, with its 'joke' being that the Titans have their own school. And it's LAZY.

I don't hate Attack on Titan, it's fine for what it is as an action/horror manga and has some pretty good plot twists later on (though I haven't caught up to it in a while!), but this? Ugh.

I went back to Karakai Jouzu no Takagi-san to wash the taste out of my mouth.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 12 October 2018, 18:22:57
I saw a trailer for that a while back, and yeah, I think lazy seems like the best word to describe it.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 12 October 2018, 22:56:26
Speaking of lazy.

Tried watching Lost Song on Netflix.

Gave up since I think the brand of kitty litter I buy is smarter than one of the main characters.

She's fooled into thinking that an assassin is one of her servants, despite the servant being a woman and the assassin being a large, muscular man with a full beard.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 12 October 2018, 23:45:01
Another new anime I have got into is UzaMaid! Former sergeant major of JSDF is looking for a job and ends up serving as a maid for single father and his daughter. Daughter is shut-in and total tsundere, but father is totally charmed by strong battle maid and how she puts up with unruly daughter who has driven off a number of previous maids. I'm charmed too! Oh, new episode!

Watched! That maid is too funny.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 13 October 2018, 11:49:00
It is claimed Goblin Slayer is based on D&D. Is this claim true, or is GS based on another game? Given the weight of reality in GS, I'd say it's based on GURPS.
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Post by: Luciora on 13 October 2018, 11:58:20
D&D has a presence in Japan. Pretty sure GURPS is limited to imports and foreign players primarily.

It is claimed Goblin Slayer is based on D&D. Is this claim true, or is GS based on another game? Given the weight of reality in GS, I'd say it's based on GURPS.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 13 October 2018, 12:25:12
D&D has a presence in Japan. Pretty sure GURPS is limited to imports and foreign players primarily.

Fujimishobo published a translated version of GURPS at one point, actually. I don't think it's in print anymore, though.
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Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 13 October 2018, 12:35:28
It is claimed Goblin Slayer is based on D&D. Is this claim true, or is GS based on another game? Given the weight of reality in GS, I'd say it's based on GURPS.
It's obvious that Goblin Slayer is based on TTRPG if you read the LN. Rather, about the Gods who "runs" the world. The other characters are as realistic as you could be, nothing silly like "bring up the status window" no level (Adventuerer guilds has a ranking system though where the hero who save the world from the Demon King is a Platinium Rank). Just whenever as a caster if you can cast something for what number of times a day.
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Post by: Matti on 13 October 2018, 12:42:42
It's obvious that Goblin Slayer is based on TTRPG if you read the LN. Rather, about the Gods who "runs" the world.
Yeah, I got that already from manga. But what "game" do the "Gods" "run"? Or is it left vague? Does novel author tell anything about it in afterword? Given the reality (which exceeds many live-action movies based on history) and presence of d6 (in anime), I'd say game is GURPS.
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Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 13 October 2018, 12:48:02
Yeah, I got that already from manga. But what "game" do the "Gods" "run"? Or is it left vague? Does novel author tell anything about it in afterword? Given the reality (which exceeds many live-action movies based on history) and presence of d6 (in anime), I'd say game is GURPS.
Actually I argue for D&D because of the monsters the Author used. But his story setting does not conform to the D&D Rules. Especially when there's no resurrection (Goblin Slayer was on brink of death, not quite dead when he was brought back).
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Post by: Matti on 13 October 2018, 12:56:28
Actually I argue for D&D because of the monsters the Author used.
The monsters aren't necessarily limited to D&D alone and GURPS Fourth Edition Basic Set has an example of an elf character. Of course author may be familiar with a good number of RPGs and been influenced by all of them.

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But his story setting does not conform to the D&D Rules.
Oh yes, D&D 5th Edition rules says character wearing metal armour can't cast spells, yet priestess got herself a mail shirt.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 13 October 2018, 13:04:47
Yeah, I got that already from manga. But what "game" do the "Gods" "run"? Or is it left vague? Does novel author tell anything about it in afterword? Given the reality (which exceeds many live-action movies based on history) and presence of d6 (in anime), I'd say game is GURPS.

Nah, it's probably one of the Japanese systems like F.E.A.R.'s SRPGS. If I recall correctly, that's a D6 die-pool system. GURPS may have been available in Japan, but its market presence is exceedingly limited....

[edit]Oh yes, D&D 5th Edition rules says character wearing metal armour can't cast spells, yet priestess got herself a mail shirt.

Man, I hope that's not true. I haven't played 5th yet, but divine magic shouldn't be limited by armor!

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Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 13 October 2018, 13:15:12
Man, I hope that's not true. I haven't played 5th yet, but divine magic shouldn't be limited by armor!
I rather suspect if AUthor played D&D, it was 3.5 or a Japanese version of it.
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Post by: Matti on 13 October 2018, 13:15:45
Do you see what weapon Goblin Slayer uses to punch through goblin's helmet in 2nd episode? Pick. He has sword on his waist, but he uses pick against armour! Armour wins against sword and dagger (1st episode), but lose to pick! THIS is reality many live-action movies/shows based on history miss!

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Of course I have already seen it in manga beforehand.
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Post by: Øystein on 13 October 2018, 13:31:23
[edit]Oh yes, D&D 5th Edition rules says character wearing metal armour can't cast spells, yet priestess got herself a mail shirt.

Utterly incorrect. The rules say you need to proficient with the armor you are going to use. And a cleric domain can grant armor proficiency. Up to the deity/priesthood. Mail armor has always been a common priest equipment from 1st edition and on.

Also, nothing stops you from dual-classing. You can create a level 1 dwarf fighter who gains heavy armor proficiency (ie full plate and twohanded sword for example), who then dual-classes to wizard on level 2. He still keeps his fight proficiencies and as such can cast wizard spells while in armor.

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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 13 October 2018, 13:44:20
Man, I hope that's not true. I haven't played 5th yet, but divine magic shouldn't be limited by armor!

It isn't.  Druids might not be able to cast spells in metal armor, but that's been true in just about every edition.

In 5th Edition, anyone (even wizards and sorcerers) can cast spells while wearing armor as long as they're proficient with that armor type.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 13 October 2018, 14:02:19
It isn't.  Druids might not be able to cast spells in metal armor, but that's been true in just about every edition.

In 5th Edition, anyone (even wizards and sorcerers) can cast spells while wearing armor as long as they're proficient with that armor type.

Thank the Gods, sanity reigns! Appreciate it!
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Post by: Matti on 13 October 2018, 14:08:17
It isn't.  Druids might not be able to cast spells in metal armor, but that's been true in just about every edition.
Okay, that's where I got my misleading information from. I had made druid character as much by the book as I could and I got the wrong idea that class limitation for armour would apply to all spellcasters. Sorry.

By the way, when I took that character and Player's Handbook to RPG event (small scale con), Pathfinder dominated and nobody was playing D&D5 anymore. Nor GURPS for that matter :(
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Post by: iamfanboy on 13 October 2018, 14:19:11
I'd wager GURPS more, I know that both games had a presence over there at one point. One of my friends bought me a whole bunch of Japanese gaming magazines and the system they were for was DEFINITELY GURPS - there was a long-running segment on how to do a pro-wrestling campaign, and even how to play Slayers in GURPS. Some nice Rui Araizumi art in there that I haven't seen elsewhere, too.

But that isn't to say that D&D isn't a possibility, after all if someone wanted to run a gritty hard campaign it's entirely possible with D&D5E - the 1 day short rest/7 day long rest option comes to mind.
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Post by: thx1140 on 13 October 2018, 20:24:17
Goblin Slayer’s author, Kumo Kagyuu, admits himself was heavy influenced by Tabletop RPG.

https://www.4gamer.net/games/436/G043667/20181001002/
(Dialogue of Kumo Kagyuu, and Hitoshi Yasuda, president of Group SNE, major Japanese TTRPG design group)

In this interview, he was interested with TTRPG via Sword World RPG’s replay books, and especially, he deeply impressed by "Sorcery!" gamebook.

Also, he enjoyed Sword World RPG, Shadowrun, Record of Lodoss War RPG, Ikai-Senki Chaos Flare(Japanese multi-genre crossover TTRPG like TORG), Dungeons & Dragons, and so on.

Now, Group SNE designing Goblin Slayer RPG, it will be released in 2019.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 13 October 2018, 20:38:52
Record of Lodoss War is itself based on a D&D game the author ran.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 13 October 2018, 20:48:57
Record of Lodoss War is itself based on a D&D game the author ran.

Yes, but I'm fairly certain THX1140 was referring to the Record of Lodoss War branded RPG that was released in Japan later on when he listed it distinctly from D&D.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 13 October 2018, 21:11:23
I know.  I just thought it was interesting that there's an RPG of an anime based on an RPG.
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Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 13 October 2018, 21:33:17
*content*
Thank you for the information. I couldn't find that before.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 14 October 2018, 13:25:31
I haven't even seen ImoImo yet, but even if it's total garbage, I'll be forever thankful that it got Sister Princess trending on JP twitter in 2018!  ;D
It's basically a character trope deconstruction citing tropes from all over the last 20 years, essentially for female characters running the whole gamut that Sipiru initiated. It's somewhat fun in how it does it too.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 14 October 2018, 23:34:38
Just powered through Last Hope and Dragon Pilot on Netflix.

Both are interesting in their own way.

Last Hope is kinda predictable. Though it doesn't necessarily stick with all the shonen tropes, the fact that each character on the team gets a dedicated arc of one or two eps showcasing their history was kinda obvious.  I suppose, when the next part of the show comes out, I'll follow along, as the events and people involved on the other side have piqued my curiosity.

Dragon Pilot is definitely geared toward a female audience, but it's watchable for the whole family.  Cute, in a lot of ways, I actually enjoyed it a lot.

Now, I'm hopping into Blue Exorcist. Was kinda surprised by this one.  I was thinking it was gonna be cheap nock-off of Bleach or something.  Turns out to be a nice mix of serious with appropriately timed and themed humor.  As someone who follows Eschatology, I see where they're trying to go with this, and the fact that half the stuff they're citing isn't found anywhere in 'the Good Book'.  In spite of that, I'm intrigued.



 

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Post by: Istal_Devalis on 15 October 2018, 09:09:21
If you're watching the original Blue Exorcist, keep in mind they came up with an anime original ending for that one. There's a recent Blue Exorcist series that picks up with the manga around where the first anime series split off. Bringing that up in case you proceed to the next series, so you arent to confused.
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Post by: Matti on 15 October 2018, 12:00:40
Goblin Slayer anime cuts scenes and some dialogue. Second episode also makes some changes, but nothing significant. Totally skipped the scene where an all-girl party went to rescue captured women from goblin fortress.

Also something occurred to me. Since all the humans aren't training with longbows, goblins aren't quite as serious threat as vikings were to England.
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Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 15 October 2018, 21:29:59
Also something occurred to me. Since all the humans aren't training with longbows, goblins aren't quite as serious threat as vikings were to England.
Huh? Wasn't that mainly the Welsh who rigorously train with the longbows?
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Post by: MadCapellan on 15 October 2018, 21:38:19
Huh? Wasn't that mainly the Welsh who rigorously train with the longbows?

It was English longbowmen that dominated during the Hundred Year's War, although it was allegedly adopted by the English by Edward I, presumably from the Welsh. That does put it a little late for Vikings, I believe....
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Post by: Darth Nichos on 15 October 2018, 21:50:38
Gundam Unicorn: I liked it despite the somewhat mediocre reveal at the end

Garden of Sinners: Really good and I liked the timejumps between movies
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 16 October 2018, 09:35:21
So, barring any upsets, looks like I have my watch schedule done.

Not counting 'continuing to Watch' shows from past eps (like Precure)
Double Decker: I loved Tiger and Bunny, so this was probably a given. Same general sense of humor. The narrator's asides just leave me in stitches. Also, love the user of color. Pink is probably my favorite character so far. Especially after finding out she accepted her new partner just because they shared her dog's name. :D
Skull-Face Bookseller: I have friends who used to work at a bookstore. This is fairly close to the stuff they've mentioned. And I'm all for more work comedies dealing with adults.
That Time I Got Reincarnated As a Slime: Better then it has any right being. A good example of how good production values can help tired concepts. Good sense of comic timing too.
Rascal Does Not Dream of Bunny Girl Senpai: Reminds me a lot of the *Monogatari series. The two leads have a nice chemistry and I like the dry sense of humor.
Zombie Land Saga: *headbanging* RAAAAAAAAAAAWR! Bad Tae! No eating the audience!
Ms Vampire Who Lives in the Neighborhood: I'll be the first to admit this is empty, yuri themed fluff. But I dont mind yuri themed fluff. It's relaxing.
Goblin Slayer: And sometimes you just want to watch a train wreck. I'm a sucker for fantasy so I'm giving it a shot, even if a lot of what it shows just makes me roll my eyes, and from what people say, they do seem to be toning down the worse excesses. I do with the goblins had more nuance, 'Always Evil' villains are usually a sign of poor writing. I think Grimgar handled dark fantasy better, but I'm willing to see where this one takes us.
SSSS.Gridman: Now with three times the Transformers refs. This one was pretty much a given too, but all the Transformers touches are just icing. Akane is just a wonderful little psycho.
Radiant: I'm a fan of decently done Shonen Fight stuff. And this is decently done Shonen fight stuff. I'll probably completely forget about it once the anime's over, but it's watchable.

Totally skipped the scene where an all-girl party went to rescue captured women from goblin fortress.
...Gee, let me guess what happens to them.  ::)
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Post by: MadCapellan on 16 October 2018, 09:56:02
Double Decker: I loved Tiger and Bunny, so this was probably a given. Same general sense of humor. The narrator's asides just leave me in stitches. Also, love the user of color. Pink is probably my favorite character so far. Especially after finding out she accepted her new partner just because they shared her dog's name. :D

The Tiger & Bunny qualities are there, but visually it also reminds me in a positive way of a lot of early Gonzo works like Solty Rei & Speed Grapher! I'm absolutely having a blast with it! Pink is great, as is Doug, who never fails to play Kirill like a cheap kazoo! I think my favorite character is their Clark Gable lookin' dumb ass boss man, Travis Murphy, though! That dude cracks me up every time he's on screen!  ;D

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Ms Vampire Who Lives in the Neighborhood: I'll be the first to admit this is empty, yuri themed fluff. But I dont mind yuri themed fluff. It's relaxing.

Moe doesn't need a reason!

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  I do with the goblins had more nuance, 'Always Evil' villains are usually a sign of poor writing.

This is an absolute pet-peeve of mine. Whether they're goblins, zombies, or giant alien bugs, this always strikes me as such a cop out to avoid having to have the characters address any moral quandaries or philosophical challenges. Everytime I see it, I hear the voice of the author screaming in my head "I just want to write mindless slaughter! Don't judge me!" & I'm instantly turned off.  :P

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SSSS.Gridman: Now with three times the Transformers refs. This one was pretty much a given too, but all the Transformers touches are just icing. Akane is just a wonderful little psycho.

Iwatched the first episode, but the real mid-90's Gainax style directing really turned me off. I assume it continues in that fashion?
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Post by: Matti on 16 October 2018, 10:09:43
This is an absolute pet-peeve of mine. Whether they're goblins, zombies, or giant alien bugs, this always strikes me as such a cop out to avoid having to have the characters address any moral quandaries or philosophical challenges. Everytime I see it, I hear the voice of the author screaming in my head "I just want to write mindless slaughter! Don't judge me!" & I'm instantly turned off.  :P
Oh come on! Did you miss the part where Goblin Slayer says that he himself is to goblins what goblins are to humans? Pay attention!

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Furthermore there are plenty more besides mindless slaughter. Adult age is 15 = medieval standard. Armour and helmet defeat sword and dagger but lose to pick; live-action movies based on history miss that. And there are more details, but people seem to be so much in shock & awe about rape and slaughter that they miss it. And when Goblin Slayer fights, he don't fight (nor slaughter) mindlessly:
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The imagination is a weapon.
Those who don't use it die first.
Indeed, in manga he comes up with a number of tricks and stunts from poisons to dust explosion to collapsing the ceiling. Some genuine MacGyver stuff here.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 16 October 2018, 10:24:50
Oh come on! Did you miss the part where Goblin Slayer says that he himself is to goblins what goblins are to humans? Pay attention!

That doesn't sound like a moral quandary or philosphical challenge - that sounds like a declaration of being higher up the food chain.

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Furthermore there are plenty more besides mindless slaughter. Adult age is 15 = medieval standard. Armour and helmet defeat sword and dagger but lose to pick; live-action movies based on history miss that. And there are more details, but people seem to be so much in shock & awe about rape and slaughter that they miss it. And when Goblin Slayer fights, he don't fight (nor slaughter) mindlessly:Indeed, in manga he comes up with a number of tricks and stunts from poisons to dust explosion to collapsing the ceiling. Some genuine MacGyver stuff here.

I didn't say "dull, straightforward slaughter", I said "mindless", as in without question, restraint, or due consideration. When a villain is pure evil, there's no need to consider their feelings, circumstances, or positive ecological impact. Every interaction is kill/enslave or be kill/be enslaved.  It's virtually unseen in real-life, & it's boring. Proper use of melee weapons doesn't really bridge thst gap for me.
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Post by: Matti on 16 October 2018, 10:31:45
That doesn't sound like a moral quandary or philosphical challenge - that sounds like a declaration of being higher up the food chain.
An interesting perspective. Guild Girl sees it otherwise though.

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I didn't say "dull, straightforward slaughter", I said "mindless", as in without question, restraint, or due consideration.
Yet at least manga does that too (anime isn't there yet). Goblin Lord is totally chaotic evil, but he gets a fair bit of screen time and a flashback to his past and rise from just another goblin to one who commands sizable horde and several goblin champions.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 16 October 2018, 10:37:32
Tell me when a goblin does something positive or sympathetic, won't you?
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Post by: Matti on 16 October 2018, 10:54:43
Tell me when a goblin does something positive or sympathetic, won't you?
Goblin Slayer says this as he slaughters the goblin children (manga version):
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A good goblin?
There might be, if we just looked.
But I think...
...the only good goblins are the ones who never come out of their stinking holes.
Were there any good goblins (or good dragons) in old stories like Lord of the Rings and whatever came before it? That is more of recent innovation. In this regard Goblin Slayer is more... traditional?
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Post by: MadCapellan on 16 October 2018, 10:57:58
As for me, I think this season is looking pretty awesome so far! Most shows are still just warming up, but I've already got a full dedicated watch list!

Ep.2 of Index III literally dropped Toma into Avignon & London & a pile of the kind of warped theology I was so looking forward to! Imagine Breaker vs Papal Infallibility, eh?

The second episode of RELEASE THE SPYCE really solidified the spy action aspects of the show by making Momo earn her place on the team while still having plenty of adorable moments! Expanding on the cute action of the first episode with some well-crafted character backgrounds is rewlly cementing this as one of my favorites this season!

Finally got around to watching ImoImo/My Sister, My Writer, & although the animation quality looked really shakey, the humor was pretty on point! Hopefully they can hold it together for another 11 episodes!  :-[
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Post by: MadCapellan on 16 October 2018, 11:05:57
Were there any good goblins (or good dragons) in old stories like Lord of the Rings and whatever came before it? That is more of recent innovation. In this regard Goblin Slayer is more... traditional?

The true main antagonists of The Lord of the Rings were corrupted & compromised men like Saruman, not Orcs or Sauron himself. It's that nuance of character & moral tension that makes a story relatable & interesting to me. Fighting zombies or goblins is as interesting to me as someone fighting a hord of bushes or shopping carts.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 16 October 2018, 12:14:18
Were there any good goblins (or good dragons) in old stories like Lord of the Rings and whatever came before it? That is more of recent innovation. In this regard Goblin Slayer is more... traditional?

Goblins in Lord of the Rings were nothing but a faceless horde who's only motivation in life was pillage and burn.  They had no depth and no reason to exist in the story aside from threatening hobbits and being massacred by the Fellowship.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 16 October 2018, 12:26:55
Matti's question appeared rhetorical, Ogre. I understood it as "This great work also had simplistic, evil goblins, so it's not a problem!", but that really fails to account for who the true narrative antagonists are in Tolkien's works. If Tolkien was only capable of producing work with single-faceted villainy I doubt he would have become the renowned figure he is now.
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Post by: Matti on 16 October 2018, 13:12:36
Matti's question appeared rhetorical, Ogre. I understood it as "This great work also had simplistic, evil goblins, so it's not a problem!", but that really fails to account for who the true narrative antagonists are in Tolkien's works. If Tolkien was only capable of producing work with single-faceted villainy I doubt he would have become the renowned figure he is now.
I didn't give it much of thought was I typing rhetorical or not. Anyway Goblin Slayer has more than "simplistic, evil goblins" (see goblin lord in some posts above). Even the "simplistic, evil goblins" get some character in manga chapter #4 as one fat goblin wants to join the party, but another goblin tells him who earned the right to party and puts the fatty to sentry duty. This scene got cut off from anime.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 16 October 2018, 13:17:08
Matti's question appeared rhetorical, Ogre. I understood it as "This great work also had simplistic, evil goblins, so it's not a problem!", but that really fails to account for who the true narrative antagonists are in Tolkien's works. If Tolkien was only capable of producing work with single-faceted villainy I doubt he would have become the renowned figure he is now.

Tolkien was also writing 100 years ago, when literature had different audience expectations.

I didn't give it much of thought was I typing rhetorical or not. Anyway Goblin Slayer has more than "simplistic, evil goblins" (see goblin lord in some posts above). Even the "simplistic, evil goblins" get some character in manga chapter #4 as one fat goblin wants to join the party, but another goblin tells him who earned the right to party and puts the fatty to sentry duty. This scene got cut off from anime.

None of that really shows goblins as being something other than an always-evil race that can be killed without remorse.
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Post by: Matti on 16 October 2018, 13:30:58
None of that really shows goblins as being something other than an always-evil race that can be killed without remorse.
Yet some adventurers show remorse and mercy. That is how goblin lord survived long enough to become lord. As Goblin Slayer says it:
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Some think they're magnanimous...
...by sparing the young.
They are fools.
*skip*
The goblin, on the other hand, learns and grows from the encounter. It is known as a "wanderer."
Wanderers often join other nests as chieftains or guards.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 16 October 2018, 13:31:17
Matti, not to dogpile on you here, but... well...

Take the demihumans from Overlord. Most of them subscribe to the philosophy of the strong eat the weak, and humans happen to be weakest so they get eaten the most. But when shown that humans AREN'T necessarily weak - like the ogres at Carne Village - and that they can be lived with as neighbors everyone benefits. That's one reason why the Sorcerous Kingdom is prospering in the later novels. It has a nuance to it, a reasoning behind why they do what they do.


Goblin Slayer's goblins are, for the most part, mindless beasts. No intelligence, just cunning. One step up from murderous monkeys. They kill and rape and pillage because they enjoy it, for no other reason. They exist to serve as fodder for slaughtering, with no actual moral quandaries raised by incidents like when the Slayer kills a bunch of goblin kids. Yes, part of the point is that he's become just as vicious and nasty as they are (losing his humanity and replacing it with goblinity?) but it doesn't make you question his reasons for doing so by giving any other facet or nuance to them.

When he says, "The only good goblins are the ones that don't come out of their holes," we agree with him because we haven't been SHOWN anything else which would justify an opposing view. Goblin Slayer has lazy writing because it exists solely to create brutal images of battle, slaughter, and rapine.

Compare it to another manga, Berserk, where the main antagonists - Griffith and his followers - are people who have literally sold their humanity for power. It strikes home because we can see ourselves in them, and wonder... would we do the same thing, if we had no other choice? Would we sacrifice our dearest and nearest in exchange for one wish?


And I always felt as though the main nemesis in Lord of the Rings is the Ring itself, and the corruption it represents. That's why Smeagol is so important, because he shows the effect of giving into evil - and why Faramir was so important in the books, because it shows that good men can resist evil if they see it for what it is. (man, it still pisses me off that they changed it in the movie.)
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Post by: Matti on 16 October 2018, 13:39:01
Goblin Slayer's goblins are, for the most part, mindless beasts. No intelligence, just cunning. One step up from murderous monkeys. They kill and rape and pillage because they enjoy it, for no other reason. They exist to serve as fodder for slaughtering, with no actual moral quandaries raised by incidents like when the Slayer kills a bunch of goblin kids. Yes, part of the point is that he's become just as vicious and nasty as they are (losing his humanity and replacing it with goblinity?) but it doesn't make you question his reasons for doing so by giving any other facet or nuance to them.
Well, yeah. There's a reason why Goblin Slayer is compared to Doom & Doomguy ::)

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Post by: MadCapellan on 16 October 2018, 13:42:43
Yet some adventurers show remorse and mercy.

"Some adventurers show them mercy" =/= they were portrayed as being worthy of mercy. It's an exhortation dismissive of mankind's compassion, akin to "Stupid nice people, don't you know all goblins are bad!?" That's not really a sentiment I can say we really need more of in this world...
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Post by: Istal_Devalis on 16 October 2018, 14:03:07
Well, yeah. There's a reason why Goblin Slayer is compared to Doom & Doomguy ::)
...considering that a major complain about Goblin Slayer is that it's fairly shallow once you get rid of the edgelord stuff, bringing up Doom probably isnt helping your case.
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Post by: Istal_Devalis on 16 October 2018, 14:07:03
I watched the first episode, but the real mid-90's Gainax style directing really turned me off. I assume it continues in that fashion?
Hard to say? There's definitely Gainax elements in there, but...it's not quite as brooding? I personally disliked Evangelion but like this so far, so take that as you will?
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Post by: Maingunnery on 16 October 2018, 14:19:48
Goblin Slayer's goblins are, for the most part, mindless beasts. No intelligence, just cunning. One step up from murderous monkeys. They kill and rape and pillage because they enjoy it, for no other reason.
Yes, Goblins do awful things with their food.
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Post by: iamfanboy on 16 October 2018, 17:26:07
...considering that a major complain about Goblin Slayer is that it's fairly shallow once you get rid of the edgelord stuff, bringing up Doom probably isnt helping your case.
EDGELORD. That's exactly the word I was looking for, or possibly gratuitous. "Gritty and dark fantasy" only gets you to a certain point, after that you have to have something a little bit bigger.

That's why I brought up Berserk specifically. Oh, it's definitely on that "dark and gritty fantasy" scale, but it has something else underlying it, a genuine epic tale of friendship, betrayal, and sacrifice. Or Attack on Titan, which is also in that area, but has the mystery of the Titans drawing you on to read more. Or Gate, which has the odd juxtaposition of modern military and fantasy to give interesting interactions (like at the PX).

What does Goblin Slayer have? He... doesn't take off his helmet to eat and all he wants to do is kill goblins because they killed his family. There's the thing about gods and possibly being in an RPG world, but it's offscreen and treated as completely incidental to the actual story (unlike, say, Danmachi).
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Post by: kato on 16 October 2018, 17:35:19
So, barring any upsets, looks like I have my watch schedule done.
Same, except it has some extra stuff. ;)

Hinomaru Sumo (CR) - AOTS for me. Sports anime with a distinct early 90s vibe to it, and i like how ep 1 actually wrapped up its story entirely - which is something i didn't expect at all. Still with the setup so far, which makes for a nice slow intro. Theoretically possible long-runner too, there's 20 volumes of manga out there...
The Girl in Twilight (Akane Sasu Shoujo) (Hidive) - Animax 20th Anniversary Title. Somewhat innovative in mixing Yuuki Yuuna with what's really a full copy of the Sliders multiverse, although i think some of it went over my head (why did that one girl merge and the other didn't?).
SAO: Alicization (CR) - Probably gonna drop if the next ep is as boring. Only reason it's not dropped already is the last three minutes, because, i mean, the rest... seriously, that was boring even for SAO.

Also doing SSSS.Gridman and Zombieland Saga, as well as Bunny Girl and Slime. Not that much to say there so far. Slime surprises by fully adapting a certain scene from the manga in its full red color in the last episode.

If you have Amazon Prime and are into slow slice-of-life-type stuff with minor drama Iroduku might be worth a shot this season btw. Just saying.

Edit, PS: Forgot Bloom Into You (Yagate kimi ni naru) (Hidive). Yay for characters that actually say what they want by episode 2 already.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 16 October 2018, 17:51:51
The Girl in Twilight (Akane Sasu Shoujo) (Hidive) - Animax 20th Anniversary Title. Somewhat innovative in mixing Yuuki Yuuna with what's really a full copy of the Sliders multiverse, although i think some of it went over my head (why did that one girl merge and the other didn't?).

So for their 20th anniversary, Animax wanted to make an anime that looks like it was planned 20 years ago?  ;D I kid, I kid. This one's got me confused, but I'm still hanging onto it for now. It's very much Sliders/Quantum Leap: The Anime™ so of course with high school girls, but I really worry if these girls have the personality to pull it off in an interesting way. I guess we'll see!

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Edit, PS: Forgot Bloom Into You (Yagate kimi ni naru) (Hidive). Yay for characters that actually say what they want by episode 2 already.

YES! This is some top tier yuri thus far! I really enjoy how they were both like "We, could beat around the bush with this for another twenty episo- Screw it! I think I like you, wanna date?"  :smitten:
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Post by: Dies Irae on 16 October 2018, 19:02:27
Gaikotsu Shotenin Honda-san
It's a show from the perspective of a long suffering anonymous Japanese retail clerk working the book trade.

I run a retail business. This show is my spirit animal.

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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 16 October 2018, 20:16:58
I'm watching the 3rd (really the actual 2nd, since what was labeled season 2 was just an interlude) season of Seven Deadly Sins.

You know, I didn't enjoy the mad groper character when I saw the first season, but by now I think they really need to stop with them.
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Post by: Daemion on 16 October 2018, 21:23:52
Were there any good goblins (or good dragons) in old stories like Lord of the Rings and whatever came before it? That is more of recent innovation. In this regard Goblin Slayer is more... traditional?

Considering the age of the Lord of the Rings, it's hard to say, but I remember reading a children's story growing up in the nineties that had goblins working much like old fairy tale elves did, helping out people in a tight spot when they slept.

I'm wondering if that notion didn't have an origin in something older.

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Post by: Daemion on 16 October 2018, 21:29:17
I'm excited that they have new episodes for 7 Deadly Sins on Netflix. I think. Didn't get a chance to really check, as I was ceding the TV to someone else while I work on writing.
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Post by: Matti on 17 October 2018, 02:33:15
What does Goblin Slayer have? He... doesn't take off his helmet to eat and all he wants to do is kill goblins because they killed his family.
Goblin Slayer as a character may be as interesting as Judge Dredd at best or Doomguy at worst. But he isn't overpowered killing machine like Guts nor does he have some game-like skills & statistics. He is just badass normal with imagination for weapon. Also look at the side characters. They have some decent character on them. And Goblin Slayer also gets some character development and growth. Less so in anime because of cuts :(
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Post by: Ruger on 17 October 2018, 03:51:13
Goblin Slayer as a character may be as interesting as Judge Dredd at best or Doomguy at worst. But he isn't overpowered killing machine like Guts nor does he have some game-like skills & statistics. He is just badass normal with imagination for weapon. Also look at the side characters. They have some decent character on them. And Goblin Slayer also gets some character development and growth. Less so in anime because of cuts :(

Just watched the first episode of Goblin Slayer...and I have to wonder about the complaints on the goblins...how many gaming sessions have anything other than goblins portrayed as they are here, if not less of a threat because they are less cunning than as shown here? (Ref: Pathfinder Goblins for the most part)...it's been a staple of rog's for years, and that is what this series appears to be at its heart...an rpg set to screen or images in a manga...

Oh, and I like Judge Dredd and did not care for Guts or most of the Berserk series (was bored by it)...as to (several) someone's comment about how good Attack on Titan is...I've never understood that...I was disgusted by that series almost from the get-go...

Ruger

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Post by: MadCapellan on 17 October 2018, 05:54:06
Just watched the first episode of Goblin Slayer...and I have to wonder about the complaints on the goblins...how many gaming sessions have anything other than goblins portrayed as they are here, if not less of a threat because they are less cunning than as shown here?

For my part, my complaint wasn't about these goblins specifically, but pure evil vermin as villains in general. I'm not much of a D&D guy, but even when I've DMed I'd never had goblins or orcs as the primary villains because I felt that sounds pretty boring. I've only ever used them as muscle for a more interesting villain...
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Post by: Istal_Devalis on 17 October 2018, 10:25:16
Just watched the first episode of Goblin Slayer...and I have to wonder about the complaints on the goblins...how many gaming sessions have anything other than goblins portrayed as they are here, if not less of a threat because they are less cunning than as shown here? (Ref: Pathfinder Goblins for the most part)...it's been a staple of rog's for years, and that is what this series appears to be at its heart...an rpg set to screen or images in a manga...
Just because something's been a staple, doesnt mean it makes for good writing. And my gaming sessions didnt tend to have gang rape of captured female characters, either.
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Post by: iamfanboy on 17 October 2018, 10:33:04
I just found Goblin Slayer hard to read. Graphic violence for maximum shock value isn't my thing. I found Attack on Titan to be a slog as well, for the same reason. But the difference was the mystery element in AoT that made me wonder what was going on. Must... open... the basement...


But in I Was Reincarnated As A Slime... OMG, it is SO ADORABLE. Not just the slime, of course, - who is very expressive for an invertebrate blob! - but the tsuntsun dragon wrung several laughs out of me. If you ignore the first six minutes or so, which is just typical and boring "How I died" nonsense aside from the dying request to destroy his hard drive (and presumably all the vile porn on there), it's pretty great so far.
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Post by: Ruger on 17 October 2018, 10:59:43
Just because something's been a staple, doesnt mean it makes for good writing. And my gaming sessions didnt tend to have gang rape of captured female characters, either.

Notice I didn't say anything about that last bit...also, never said it was good writing, but sometimes you just want a bit of RPG-like shows...

Ruger
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Post by: iamfanboy on 17 October 2018, 11:49:05
Notice I didn't say anything about that last bit...also, never said it was good writing, but sometimes you just want a bit of RPG-like shows...
There's been a lot of them the last few years, though. Overlord especially comes to mind as a superior example - hell, they even talk about Control Weather as a Fifth level (sorry, 'tier') spell. Danmachi, Konosuba, Maoyu, In Another World With My Smartphone, and I'm sure a half-dozen that I can't remember right now all are RPG-like shows. Even in the current season, "I was Reincarnated as a Slime" is in the same category, as is Merc Storia.

As for shows that have strong fantasy elements, there's Youjo Senki, Made in Abyss, A Certain Magical Index, Flying Witch, Ancient Magus' Bride, Witch Craft Works, Gate: The JSDF Fought There, Devil is a Part-Timer, and other stuff that doesn't come to mind but I'm sure exists.


The only thing that makes Goblin Slayer stand out is its edgelord, gratuitous nature. If you enjoy that, that's fine - we all want some gratuity now and again. But it's not unique or interesting aside from that.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 17 October 2018, 11:52:36
There's been a lot of them the last few years, though. Overlord especially comes to mind as a superior example - hell, they even talk about Control Weather as a Fifth level (sorry, 'tier') spell. Danmachi, Konosuba, Maoyu, In Another World With My Smartphone, and I'm sure a half-dozen that I can't remember right now all are RPG-like shows. Even in the current season, "I was Reincarnated as a Slime" is in the same category, as is Merc Storia.

The term typically used is lit-RPG.  And it's a genre that I rather detest due to how overused it is.
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Post by: kato on 17 October 2018, 12:39:03
... uh, then wait until Kumo desu ga, nani ka? hits the screens.

That basically consists panel-to-panel only of skill trees, min-maxing, job selection, evolving the character along a set tree that the player-character is fully knowledgable of...
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Post by: iamfanboy on 17 October 2018, 12:40:17
The term typically used is lit-RPG.  And it's a genre that I rather detest due to how overused it is.
It can be good depending on how it's written. I liked Maoyu for its inversion - the Devil Overlord is tired of the endless battle and wants to improve humanity's stature so that it doesn't NEED to wage war just to get ahead, and recruits the Hero as the strongest human to aid her.

If only the anime didn't turn into an endless joke about her boobs... *sigh*
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 17 October 2018, 12:47:07
It CAN be good, but the vast majority of works are just lazy attempts to slap RPG mechanics onto a fantasy world in place of trying to do actual world-building.
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Post by: Maingunnery on 17 October 2018, 13:20:57
... uh, then wait until Kumo desu ga, nani ka? hits the screens.

That basically consists panel-to-panel only of skill trees, min-maxing, job selection, evolving the character along a set tree that the player-character is fully knowledgable of...
Well at least I get the feeling that she has a harder time then our current adorable slime.

But I do hope that we get some actual human interaction soon...
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Post by: iamfanboy on 17 October 2018, 13:23:18
It CAN be good, but the vast majority of works are just lazy attempts to slap RPG mechanics onto a fantasy world in place of trying to do actual world-building.
Agreed, and it's especially bad when you combine isekai stuff in there where the hero's "power" is that he knows it's a game, similar to Konosuba or that smartphone one.
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Post by: Weirdo on 17 October 2018, 13:29:37
It can be good depending on how it's written. I liked Maoyu for its inversion - the Devil Overlord is tired of the endless battle and wants to improve humanity's stature so that it doesn't NEED to wage war just to get ahead, and recruits the Hero as the strongest human to aid her.

If only the anime didn't turn into an endless joke about her boobs... *sigh*

Was there a manga? I loved the anime's story and concept.
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Post by: kato on 17 October 2018, 13:33:20
Was there a manga?
... 44 volumes in five series. The main series with 18 volumes seems to be available in English.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Weirdo on 17 October 2018, 13:37:09
Did it go farther than the anime? My one beef with the show was that it ended at an unsatisfying place, right after that one maid's near-execution.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 17 October 2018, 13:55:35
Agreed, and it's especially bad when you combine isekai stuff in there where the hero's "power" is that he knows it's a game, similar to Konosuba or that smartphone one.

To be fair, Konosuba has almost nothing to do with fantasy or adventure & everything to do with the humor arising from everyone being completely awful!   ;D

In Another World With My Smartphone, however..... xp
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Maingunnery on 17 October 2018, 14:01:20
In Another World With My Smartphone, however..... xp
Isn't that anime universally judged to be the worst isekai so far?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 17 October 2018, 14:09:19
Isn't that anime universally judged to be the worst isekai so far?
Nah, Hyakuren no Haou to Seiyaku no Valkyria ("The Master of Ragnarok & Blesser of Einherjar" - and yes, those two titles seemingly have nothing to do with each other) last season handily beat it on that.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 17 October 2018, 14:15:45
Agreed, and it's especially bad when you combine isekai stuff in there where the hero's "power" is that he knows it's a game, similar to Konosuba or that smartphone one.

Yup.  Not only that, but the hero starts out with 15 free levels and epic tier equipment while everyone else is stuck with equipment they had to buy or make themselves and leveled up the old fashioned way.  It's the ultimate otaku fantasy.

Hmm probably why one of the few isekai animes that I actually liked was The Ambition of Oda Nobuna: the main character was, in fact, as good in a fight as you'd expect from a teenage otaku with no skills or training and was only able to contribute through his knowledge, which made things difficult as history changed more and more due to his actions.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 17 October 2018, 15:13:06
Smartphone isn't as bad later in the books. At least the world building continues and expands on the details and history, though the MC is still OP as hell.

Maoyu... I enjoyed the single season but it really really annoys me when shows get rolling and get deeper into the story then... nothing. Its over.

Also no one has mentioned Log Horizon yet... Makes me sad :'(
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 18 October 2018, 09:17:16
Isn't that anime universally judged to be the worst isekai so far?
Just wait until RE:Monster shows up.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 18 October 2018, 09:18:00
Maoyu... I enjoyed the single season but it really really annoys me when shows get rolling and get deeper into the story then... nothing. Its over.

Also no one has mentioned Log Horizon yet... Makes me sad :'(
I imagine at least seeing more of either title could be because of the author's tax issues from a few years ago. Though they have been cleared up, as I mentioned in the Anime thread earlier this year:
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Not quite.
According to this ANN article (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-04-27/log-horizon-author-mamare-touno-found-guilty-of-tax-evasion/.101506) from 2016. He was to spend 10 months in jail, but that was suspended for three years. As long as he's on good behavior in that time frame, he won't serve it.
It also seems he has repaid the delinquent taxes as well.
Now as to Log Horizon proper, I actually like the anime that's been done. I'm not as much a fan of the English Dub, but it is serviceable as a Sentai Filmworks Dub goes. The story's interesting and takes the "Trapped in a MMO game" concept in a unique direction.It also served as my introduction to Man With A Mission. Gawd, I enjoy that band.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 18 October 2018, 09:34:09
I imagine at least seeing more of either title could be because of the author's tax issues from a few years ago.
Kadokawa basically suspended him for the duration of his probation, picking up work on physically publishing of volume 11 of Log Horizon in January 2018 again.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 18 October 2018, 11:34:02
Did it go farther than the anime? My one beef with the show was that it ended at an unsatisfying place, right after that one maid's near-execution.
I think that happens at like volume 4 or 5 in the manga. So yes, much farther. Some neat worldbuilding happens after that, too.

Man, that anime was so half-assed on so many levels. I forgot that's where it ended.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 18 October 2018, 12:57:39
About Maou
Did it go farther than the anime? My one beef with the show was that it ended at an unsatisfying place, right after that one maid's near-execution.
More like attempted murder. Good thing Soldier was around. I liked his fighting more than Knight's crazy Jedi jumping.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 19 October 2018, 08:13:07
Just watched the first episode of Goblin Slayer...and I have to wonder about the complaints on the goblins...how many gaming sessions have anything other than goblins portrayed as they are here, if not less of a threat because they are less cunning than as shown here? (Ref: Pathfinder Goblins for the most part)...it's been a staple of rog's for years, and that is what this series appears to be at its heart...an rpg set to screen or images in a manga...


I think (from what I'm hearing anyway) is that one of the big complaints on Goblin Slayer was that it was mislabeled by streaming services as being rated PG, and that people were caught off guard when it was decidedly *not*.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ruger on 19 October 2018, 08:57:19
I think (from what I'm hearing anyway) is that one of the big complaints on Goblin Slayer was that it was mislabeled by streaming services as being rated PG, and that people were caught off guard when it was decidedly *not*.

That I could understand and agree with...

Ruger
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 19 October 2018, 10:22:59
That I could understand and agree with...

Ruger
Apparently someone was pranking people with that rating
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 19 October 2018, 10:59:00
Reminds me of all the ecchi shows that were somehow given TV-14 ratings for their US releases despite the rampant nudity.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 19 October 2018, 11:22:33
...Or when video rental places but the hentai in the children's section because it was a cartoon.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Maingunnery on 19 October 2018, 12:01:01
...Or when video rental places but the hentai in the children's section because it was a cartoon.
I saw this happen multiple times in the 90's...  xp
I would have thought that people have learned. 
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 19 October 2018, 12:06:48
I think (from what I'm hearing anyway) is that one of the big complaints on Goblin Slayer was that it was mislabeled by streaming services as being rated PG, and that people were caught off guard when it was decidedly *not*.
Let me see some ratings on my DVD cases...

Blue Gender is TV-PG (has nudity and softcore sex) and Space Adventure Cobra is equivalent of R-18 ::)

[edit]
Also on Crunchyroll's site I don't see (TV-)PG nor any other rating nor recommended age (for Goblin Slayer). However CR has a warning message about disturbing scenes which wasn't there on the first week.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: DarkSpade on 19 October 2018, 13:05:55
...Or when video rental places but the hentai in the children's section because it was a cartoon.

Place by me did the opposite.  All anime was 18+.

Robotech was very disappointing. ;D
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 19 October 2018, 13:27:37
At a job long ago, I had a coworker who made the mistake of renting a hentai for his son's birthday party (I want to say the kid was seven, but he might have been younger).  He popped the cassette into the VHS player, then left the room.

Then Mom walked in just as the yuri scene started...

And that was the explanation for why he always looked so tired and disheveled: he'd been sleeping on the couch for two weeks.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 19 October 2018, 13:57:27
I think (from what I'm hearing anyway) is that one of the big complaints on Goblin Slayer was that it was mislabeled by streaming services as being rated PG, and that people were caught off guard when it was decidedly *not*.
I think it's more along the lines of "If you took everything out of the show that's definitely NOT rated PG or below, or made the stuff PG, you're left with a really dumb manga/show that isn't worth reading/watching."

And that doesn't have to be true. It's just lazy writing.

The novel I mentioned a few pages back ("JK Haru is a Sex Worker in Another World") would still be an engrossing read if you took a black Sharpie to every single line of her 'sex' scenes. She's sassy, pissed off that she's trapped in a gross otaku male fantasy world, and just trying to get by as best she can in literally the ONLY way she can.


Or take an oldie, Claymore (because I don't want to bring up Berserk/AoT again). If you made the whole thing PG, you're still left with an interesting story about women who have to save the world from demons by BECOMING demons - at least partly - and how they deal with the rejection of the ordinary human world and the lure of going over the line entirely to demonhood.


EDIT: I do want to make it clear though: If you like it, that's FINE. Everyone wants some gratuity sometimes. But we aren't complaining because it has violence and rape - we're complaining because if you take that away, Goblin Slayer isn't much of anything else.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 20 October 2018, 05:05:48

Let me be clear; I don't have an issue with the nudity, sex or violence level in Goblin Slayer or any other anime, and I'm not one of those prudish folks who calls for censoring or "light beams" or any of that.    The content may not be my cup of tea, but for others it is, and  hey,  then good for them. 

However, I think that providing some for of advisement when the content therein is *graphic* is a wise idea to aid people in making informed choices on what they choose to watch or not watch.

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 20 October 2018, 07:58:09
I think it's more along the lines of "If you took everything out of the show that's definitely NOT rated PG or below, or made the stuff PG, you're left with a really dumb manga/show that isn't worth reading/watching."
Even if Goblin Slayer anime were to be watered down to level of Blue Gender (it is TV-PG, says so in DVD case), there wouldn't be much, if any, noticeable change.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 20 October 2018, 09:09:51
Blue Gender was mentioned because it's famously a case of a rating that didn't actually reflect the contents of the show.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 20 October 2018, 13:04:55
Blue Gender had a rating? (the compilation movie doesn't, and here in Germany that means it can not be sold to minors at all)

On a side note regarding the discussion on mindless villainy earlier, today's Alicization had goblins. Goblin Slayer type goblins, with much the same behavior. Except they have motives and can speak.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 20 October 2018, 13:24:29
Blue Gender had a rating? (the compilation movie doesn't, and here in Germany that means it can not be sold to minors at all)

The TV series aired on Cartoon Network here in the States. It was gritty & violent, but I can't imagine it's "deny categorization" bad, even by German standards. That's kind of wild.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 20 October 2018, 14:04:59
It's not rated because the DVD release (the Funimation compilation movie) was never translated and localized for Germany. I.e. you can only buy the US version of that, and that one as it's not rated is therefore considered equivalent to a mature 18+ rating by default.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 21 October 2018, 00:30:10
On a side note regarding the discussion on mindless villainy earlier, today's Alicization had goblins. Goblin Slayer type goblins, with much the same behavior. Except they have motives and can speak.
In Goblin Slayer are a number of goblins that speak with humans. Goblin Lord is one (not yet seen in anime), and Goblin Slayer Side Story: Year One (prequel to Goblin Slayer) has another.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 22 October 2018, 12:00:26
HuggTo Precure 36+37: SO many magical girls and callbacks...As a long time fan of the series, that was just tear inducing in how beautiful and well done it was. Lots of little callbacks, references, and little details done right. They even got all the 'Almost Cures' that never show up and tend to get ignored in the All Star movies. That was a nice 15th year franchise anniversary surprise.
All the Girls! All! (https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jlcvuIjd364/W8wx1GHuIyI/AAAAAAAAfnY/J0IeuBAkR1IWAJvX16Oqp87_s0Vo6H-SgCEwYBhgL/s1600/vlcsnap-2018-10-21-14h38m49s022.png)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 22 October 2018, 12:10:03
They should really go back to a rate of 0.5 girls per season again...  xp
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 22 October 2018, 13:07:35
In anime club around here we have watched 3 series lately:

Space Dandy
Space scifi comedy about alien hunters hunting aliens (alive preferred) and girls (big boobies preferred). Pure comedy gold.

Death Parade
Main characters bring final judgement to those who have died. They do so by having the dead (2 at a time) competing with the games and observing their reactions. Here's the catch: at first the dead souls don't know they have died. Tasty cocktail of mystery, horror, comedy, action, and I don't know what next episode will be... kato called this isekai for whatever reason.

Mad Bull 34
Cop buddies in New York chasing the most dangerous criminals in the most dangerous area. Goes over the top, and does it with style. Warning: has blood, guts, and softcore sex. If Goblin Slayer is too much for you, then this isn't for you either.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 22 October 2018, 13:23:58
kato called this isekai for whatever reason.
Death March, not Death Parade...

(also, this is why i use japanese titles)
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Post by: kato on 22 October 2018, 13:35:38
I really enjoy how they were both like "We, could beat around the bush with this for another twenty episo- Screw it! I think I like you, wanna date?"  :smitten:
"If they did that there would be no movie." :D
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 22 October 2018, 21:26:48
Death March, not Death Parade...

(also, this is why i use japanese titles)

Death Parade is not the same anime as Death March.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 22 October 2018, 23:41:37
Death Parade is not the same anime as Death March.
Indeed, that's why i'm saying it.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 23 October 2018, 09:30:34
Goblin Slayer episode #3 delivers heavy info dump of world building and character characterization. Comparison to manga: very close, no cuts, and any differences in dialogue may be due different translators doing different translations. If the first episodes had been as faithful as this newest one, then this episode would be #4. I wish it were.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 26 October 2018, 11:39:36
Uzamaid cosplay by professional wrestler Saiki Reika (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKHf_LnQssU) (or so they say). Lack of moe is disturbing in this one xp
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 26 October 2018, 13:09:24
Goblin Slayer episode #3 delivers heavy info dump of world building and character characterization. Comparison to manga: very close, no cuts, and any differences in dialogue may be due different translators doing different translations. If the first episodes had been as faithful as this newest one, then this episode would be #4. I wish it were.
Heavy, and pretty bog standard world building. Oh look, a demon king and his army are threatening the world. How unique.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 26 October 2018, 13:37:44
Heavy, and pretty bog standard world building. Oh look, a demon king and his army are threatening the world. How unique.
And hero of the show goes to challenge him and... No he don't. He just kill goblins. THAT is unique.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 26 October 2018, 13:46:36
And hero of the show goes to challenge him and... No he don't. He just kill goblins. THAT is unique.
Point of the order, the setting has a HERO who is out to save the world from the Demon King....and she is not the Goblin Slayer whose story is centered around him. :P
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Siden Pryde on 26 October 2018, 14:35:01
Point of the order, the setting has a HERO who is out to save the world from the Demon King....and she is not the Goblin Slayer whose story is centered around him. :P
Which I find a welcome change, to be honest.  Plenty of anime and video games where someone jumps at the call to choose from, so one where the protagonist rejects being the hero is nice. GS's reasons for not joining the fight against the Demon King are ones I can agree with.


Didn't see this earlier in the thread: Voice actor Tsujitani Kouji (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C5%8Dji_Tsujitani) passed away on October 17 from a stroke.  You will be missed Bernie.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 26 October 2018, 14:51:11
Which I find a welcome change, to be honest.  Plenty of anime and video games where someone jumps at the call to choose from, so one where the protagonist rejects being the hero is nice. GS's reasons for not joining the fight against the Demon King are ones I can agree with.

The problem is that refusing the call (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RefusalOfTheCall) isn't by itself a good story.  GS may have an understandable reason for not wanting to fight the Demon King, but he's still an extremely flat character.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 26 October 2018, 14:54:35
I have seen Goblin Slayer called PG (in this topic too). Why is it called that?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 26 October 2018, 15:30:47
The problem is that refusing the call (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RefusalOfTheCall) isn't by itself a good story.  GS may have an understandable reason for not wanting to fight the Demon King, but he's still an extremely flat character.
Tell me about it. If he hadn't helmet on all the time, he would stare off into the distance. I know from manga that he will have some character development and gets more talkative over time.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 26 October 2018, 15:40:53
Watched The Boy and the Beast

I don't know why it's so highly rated: the plot is pretty derivative and the entire third act feels like it was tacked on because they realized they didn't have a full story.  Didn't seem to tie in to the actual plot anywhere near enough.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 26 October 2018, 15:45:02
I have seen Goblin Slayer called PG (in this topic too). Why is it called that?

In the US we have a set of ratings that are used for television programs, as do many countries. This link should explain it fully:

http://www.tvguidelines.org/ratings.htm (http://www.tvguidelines.org/ratings.htm)


GS was originally indicated as TV-PG.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 27 October 2018, 00:18:44
In the US we have a set of ratings that are used for television programs, as do many countries.
I know that.

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GS was originally indicated as TV-PG.
Where exactly? In Reddit?
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Post by: Charlie Tango on 27 October 2018, 08:41:29
I know that.
Where exactly? In Reddit?

I believe that when you start the show on Crunchyroll the guidance box comes up in the corner at the beginning.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 27 October 2018, 15:05:38
I believe that when you start the show on Crunchyroll the guidance box comes up in the corner at the beginning.
I was looking for it. I don't see it (PG or the like) in any corner for any anime I have checked. Though there are warnings for some anime, now for Goblin Slayer too. I suspect that origin of Goblin Slayer being TV-PG is made up BS.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 27 October 2018, 16:29:01
I was looking for it. I don't see it (PG or the like) in any corner for any anime I have checked. Though there are warnings for some anime, now for Goblin Slayer too. I suspect that origin of Goblin Slayer being TV-PG is made up BS.
https://comicbook.com/anime/2018/10/14/goblin-slayer-mature-warning-crunchyroll-censor-nsfw/


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So, fans will be happy to hear Crunchyroll is listening to the chatter.

After all, the popular website did announce it will be adding a warning to Goblin Slayer. after its graphic premiere became a hot topic on social media.

Taking to Twitter, Crunchyroll confirmed it will add a warning to the first episode of Goblin Slayer. at the very least as new rating practices begin taking shape behind the scenes.

“Many of you have reached out to us about the graphic nature of Goblin Slayer. Thank you. We’ve added a warning to the episode and are building better practices in providing information you need to make decisions about what to watch,” the site said in a short statement.

“We would like to apologize to anyone who encountered the episode and was disturbed. Thank you for sharing your concerns with us.”

For fans, the warning is a welcome one that follows in the footsteps of other infamously graphic series. Crunchyroll has curated certain episodes of Berserk and Attack on Titan with content warnings in the past. Now, Goblin Slayer has joined the list, but the notice does come too later for some.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 28 October 2018, 07:54:38
I've been seeing news blurps on gen:LOCK.  It's mech anime show being made for western streaming service.

Voice actors include Michael Jordon, Dakota Fanning, and  Kōichi Yamadera (Japanese voice actor for Spike in Cowboy Bebop),

The creator of the show was interviewed and posted on the Anime New Network.  (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2018-10-26/gen-lock-series-creator-gray-haddock/.138620)

Looks interesting, though i can't say I like it stuck on narrow media like streaming service...Rooster Teeth. At least something it will be made, maybe it will be more widely launched in years to come if it's successful.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 28 October 2018, 11:14:27
It's a Rooster Teeth Production, so it's gonna be interesting.
Also David Tennant (Tenth Doctor) is in this show as well.

And here's the Preview link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOE4tIKwA3c) from the ANN Article. This show seems to have some possibilities. After finally getting their animation rigs firmed producing RWBY and the last couple seasons of Red vs Blue, gen:LOCK seems to be a solid evolution.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 28 October 2018, 14:19:31
Been watching, That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime.  I used read the manga, so this nice filler show.
The animation for this pretty top notch.  It's kinda comedy / fantasy / iseka sort thing, but the guy not human at all. Which is nice change.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 28 October 2018, 15:50:26
Goblin Slayer #4 is another good episode. Compared to manga, some parts got cut off, but mostly those are of lesser importance: are we really interested about reading entire page of manga about debate to hold a break? Good episode and Goblin Slayer shows off his innovations that rivals with MacGyver: portal scroll linked to the bottom of the sea :o
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 28 October 2018, 16:41:41
That's really no different than the classic Dungeons and Dragons magic item, the Decanter of Endless Water.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 28 October 2018, 17:25:22
That's really no different than the classic Dungeons and Dragons magic item, the Decanter of Endless Water.
Does your decanter project the water with the force of 16000 pounds per square inch?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 28 October 2018, 17:30:57
One of the settings was powerful enough to knock people over and break doors down.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 28 October 2018, 17:31:44
One of the settings was powerful enough to knock people over and break doors down.
This one is a literal water jet cutter.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 28 October 2018, 17:40:51
Ramping up the pressure does not make it revolutionary.  It's the same thing, just without the limitations that the D&D item had for balance purposes.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 28 October 2018, 17:42:44
Ramping up the pressure does not make it revolutionary.  It's the same thing, just without the limitations that the D&D item had for balance purposes.
"Knocking people and "busting" doors down" does not stand up to water jet cutting that can cut through steel.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 28 October 2018, 17:51:36
The point is that it's a difference of scale: evolutionary not revolutionary.  The general concept has been in fiction for decades.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Darth Nichos on 28 October 2018, 19:28:03
Just binged thru Overlord; episode 3x08 was a gut punch- especially that ending........
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 28 October 2018, 21:01:28
The final episode was a bit sad. Don't remember 8.. will have to read the notes on it. Thinking of watching all 3 seasons next weekend. Can't wait for vol 14 of the LN to be released.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 28 October 2018, 21:08:56
Just binged thru Overlord; episode 3x08 was a gut punch- especially that ending........
Yep. By the way, the Silk Hat Demon that they mentioned can use the magic and abilities of heads they collect. So literally nothing is going to waste. Isn't that efficient?

The... 'nicer'... alternate ending, written for the web, involved Shalltear taking her as a toy to break her will and make her a willing servant of Nazarick, and describes in rather awful detail what happened to the only other survivor, Roberyck the priest. But they make it clear in the regular novel and the anime version that she does not survive, for good reasons.

Been watching, That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime.  I used read the manga, so this nice filler show.
The animation for this pretty top notch.  It's kinda comedy / fantasy / iseka sort thing, but the guy not human at all. Which is nice change.
I'm actually liking the anime more than the manga or LN - something about how the slime is animated just is too adorable for words, and it really doesn't come through as well in the still formats.

The point is that it's a difference of scale: evolutionary not revolutionary.  The general concept has been in fiction for decades.
I think that you could say that about everything in Goblin Slayer - although I'd prefer using 'derivative' instead of 'evolutionary'.

It's... people who like Goblin Slayer, it's OKAY TO LIKE IT. But on an originality scale it weighs in at the same level as Street Sharks versus Ninja Turtles or Rahxephon versus Evangelion or Warhammer Fantasy Role-Play versus D&D...

Holy hell. That last one is the PERFECT example! WFRP is grimdark and edgelord all the way through, but when you get to the nitty-gritty of it the setting is an unoriginal melange of Tolkien and the worst stereotypes of the European Dark Ages, adapted from a wargame just like D&D was adapted from Chainmail, wrapped in a completely unplayable system where most PLAYER characters were crippled right from the start and destined to fail and die horribly doing amazingly basic heroisms like... say... fight a goblin.


Sorry, got a bit off-topic there. It's okay to like Goblin Slayer, sometimes we all want something gratuitous and a bit edgelord - right now I'm playing Dishonored 2, for crying out loud! But don't try to convince us haters that it has any kind of originality.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 28 October 2018, 22:40:03
I just discovered Gundam: Thunderbolt. Not exactly sure which one I saw, but it looks like it's a series of movies.  THe one I saw seemed to establish the characters and end with a top lady revealing that the leader of an occult organization is a New Type. 

Still, it was interesting.  I see R&D didn't stop.  The float mines on the water were neat.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: mdauben on 28 October 2018, 22:41:44
Been watching, That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime.  I used read the manga, so this nice filler show.
The animation for this pretty top notch.  It's kinda comedy / fantasy / iseka sort thing, but the guy not human at all. Which is nice change.
On the surface, this sounds like such a lame idea for a series, but it's actually the only fall series that has captured my attention and I'm enjoying it so far.   ;D
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 28 October 2018, 23:51:03
The point is that it's a difference of scale: evolutionary not revolutionary.  The general concept has been in fiction for decades.
I haven't seen/read it before. I guess Goblin Slayer hasn't either ::)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 29 October 2018, 01:34:09
You think Goblin Slayer hasn't taken cues from Dungeons and Dragons?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 29 October 2018, 08:02:29
I just discovered Gundam: Thunderbolt. Not exactly sure which one I saw, but it looks like it's a series of movies.  THe one I saw seemed to establish the characters and end with a top lady revealing that the leader of an occult organization is a New Type. 

Still, it was interesting.  I see R&D didn't stop.  The float mines on the water were neat.

That's the second "Season" condensed film Bandit Flower. Both that and the first condensed film, December Sky, are up for viewing on Gundam Info's Youtube channel.
Thunderbolt is interesting, I'll admit.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 29 October 2018, 09:02:42
The point is that it's a difference of scale: evolutionary not revolutionary.  The general concept has been in fiction for decades.
Personally, I wouldn't have allowed that trick. Maybe let it emulate the Geyser setting if I was feeling generous.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 29 October 2018, 10:35:34
Personally, I wouldn't have allowed that trick. Maybe let it emulate the Geyser setting if I was feeling generous.
I might have taken a cue from Savage Worlds and let it a player determined to do it cast it as something like, oh, Lightning Bolt or Disintegrate, but with a water 'trapping' instead of electrical or force damage. Good DM'ing is like good improv IMHO: you don't negate, but adapt.

You think Goblin Slayer hasn't taken cues from Dungeons and Dragons?
I know this is going to sound weird coming from me, who loves to argue on the internet and has a tendency to get tempbanned from this forum on a regular basis for not leaving them alone, but...

I think we need to let Goblin Slayer go.

I agree with you. It's derivative edgelord trash without one original idea and it grates on me every time someone posts about it because there are much, MUCH better series out there - some of which premiered THIS SEASON (no love for Merc Storia? I love how her little bottle keeps filling up with more knicknacks!)

But I don't think it's a fight worth having, unless something really "new" (hah!) comes out of it. We've had our say about it - most of the last FIVE PAGES are bitching about Goblin Slayer in one form or another, with only  two or three people who actually like it.

Maybe every time we see a post about GS, we can grit our teeth and ignore it to post about another anime?

Gods, I can't believe I'M the one making a post about taking the high road. I'm just tired of even thinking about Goblin Slayer at all.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 29 October 2018, 11:06:04
Thanks, Iamfanboy! I'm tired of all the GS too!  ;D

After an intersession by about a half-dozen friends, I recently started watching Tensei Shittara Slime Datta Ken, & I was so pleased to find how cute & fun it is! Proof once again that good execution can lift an anime above even the most schlocky of premises!

This season has been proving every bit as great as Summer was awful. I'm up to 15 shows on my watch list now!

Release The Spyce has been exceeding my expectations thus far. More than just a cute girls being cute ninjas show, both the harsh training storyline & Fu+Mei's classic romcom film breakup & get-back-together scenario from ep 4 have really needled the heart a bit unexpectedly!

Index has begun the October 9th alphabet soup showdown in Academy City, which means bad espers acting badly & MORE FRENDA, which is always great!

I had approached Ulysses: Jeanne d'Arc & The Alchemist Knight with some trepidation with how fanservicey it was going to get, but as of ep.3 it's actually shaping up to be a fun little jaunt through fictionalized history! It's no Maria the Virgin Witch, but I'm always happy to see the Hundred Years' War getting a bit more attention in anime as a sort of  Sengoku of the West!

My biggest surprise favorite this season is probably Double-Decker, though! A little bit Tiger & Bunny & a whole lot Solty Rei, & just love their colorful New AmericaLondonville setting & the great chemistry the characters produce!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Maingunnery on 29 October 2018, 12:02:31
Yep. By the way, the Silk Hat Demon that they mentioned can use the magic and abilities of heads they collect. So literally nothing is going to waste. Isn't that efficient?

The... 'nicer'... alternate ending, written for the web, involved Shalltear taking her as a toy to break her will and make her a willing servant of Nazarick, and describes in rather awful detail what happened to the only other survivor, Roberyck the priest. But they make it clear in the regular novel and the anime version that she does not survive, for good reasons.
The way you describe it makes it seems like it earned the grimdark and edgelord award of the year.
And for clarity sake, I dropped Overlord after S1, it was just too much...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 29 October 2018, 13:02:47
You think Goblin Slayer hasn't taken cues from Dungeons and Dragons?
He's too busy slaying goblins to play D&D or anything else for that matter ::)


I think we need to let Goblin Slayer go.

I agree with you. It's derivative edgelord trash without one original idea and it grates on me every time someone posts about it because there are much, MUCH better series out there - some of which premiered THIS SEASON (no love for Merc Storia? I love how her little bottle keeps filling up with more knicknacks!)
I hear you. I like it because whatever can go wrong, will go wrong, and neglected preparations for the worst case scenario will bite ass hard. Also weapons and protection are modeled more realistically than in general with clear differences between different weapons. It isn't original, but we don't see that too often. In those cases GS excels, but I understand it isn't for everyone. Still has made whole lot of discussion, not just in here but also in Twitter, YouTube, and all over the Internet.

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What comes to rape and shit, I don't think we are supposed to like that.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 29 October 2018, 13:05:19
The way you describe it makes it seems like it earned the grimdark and edgelord award of the year.
And for clarity sake, I dropped Overlord after S1, it was just too much...
The... strangest thing about that web ending is that it has a happy ending of sorts, well, happier than the official ending. I think he wrote it because the actual novel itself spends a lot of time with the mercenaries lured into Nazarick, and he couldn't help but feel a little bad about killing off everyone that both he and the readers actually LIKED. It is, however, very clearly unofficial and elseworld-y.

Overlord MENTIONS grimdark stuff once in a while, such as the head demon's source of new scroll materials (one experiment ends with the Librarian noting down, "9yo boy not strong enough to cast 4th level spell"), but it doesn't lovingly dote over how it happened the way that... other light novels... have doted over the horrors in their pages.

GODS, that's hard.

That IMHO is the difference between good and clumsy writing - the author of Overlord knows when to show something and when NOT to, both for horrific, dramatic, and amusing effect. Like later on, the succubus who's obsessed with Ainz meets the princess of the kingdom who's yandere for the commoner boy - and we never actually see the conversation, but before it the succubus is dismissive of the princess and afterwards says very nice things about her. It gives a wonderful image of the two of them sipping tea and fangirling out over their respective obsessions, and in between planning how to split the kingdom of Re-Estize between them.

Really, both Overlord and Reincarnated as a Slime have the worst isekai trope of all - the OP protagonist - so I feel like I SHOULD hate it, but it's the personalities and characters, as well as the way they differentiate from the archetypical lonely otaku harem isekai fantasy, that make them stand out.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Maingunnery on 29 October 2018, 13:57:08

Presenting an OP protagonist properly is hard. But I like the personality and motivation of Slime (when compared to Ainz) far better (so far).
Maybe it is the poorly implementation of the anime but so far Overlord is on the bottom of the isekai scale (which includes SOA and Tanya the Evil.....).
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 29 October 2018, 14:03:31
Maybe it is the poorly implementation of the anime but so far Overlord is on the bottom of the isekai scale (which includes SOA and Tanya the Evil.....).
Sword Art Online is there for being popular (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ItsPopularNowItSucks). Same as K-On!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 29 October 2018, 14:13:05
Pretty sure SAO was always pretty bad, people hooked on the inital premise of a deadly video game just gave it far more of a chance than it deserved....  ;D
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 29 October 2018, 14:45:09
Pretty sure SAO was always pretty bad, people hooked on the inital premise of a deadly video game just gave it far more of a chance than it deserved....  ;D

Yeah. I watched the first arc and haven't really dived into the 'Gun-Art' online one yet. 

Too much happened off-screen, and a lot of the battles were stop-screen choreography, which is typical a lot of times for anime.  I enjoyed it, regardless, but it did feel a little trunkated.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 29 October 2018, 15:52:38
Here's the thing with the SAO anime: Through the Mother's Rosario Arc (LN Vol 7), it's adapting the Light Novel material rather well.
Considering the fact that there is a 20-month or so time jump between chapters 4 and 5 of the first LN (Aincrad), the first Arc's eps for Vol 1 are eps 1, 8-10, the opening of 11 and eps 13 & 14. Everything else is from Volumes 2 or 8 or SAO:Progressive. I actually give props to those producing the Anime for making that first arc chronologically cohesive.

Is Sword Art Online a literary masterpiece? Oh hell no! It is a fair enough Action-Romance tale. Yes there are some light Harem aspects, but even those girls realize it's Kirito and Asuna eventually.
Just don't get me going on Alicization. It's the same song, different verse for the third (4th if you include Ordinal Scale) time, but with a lame attempt at Transhumanism thrown in...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 29 October 2018, 16:23:02
The... strangest thing about that web ending is that it has a happy ending of sorts, well, happier than the official ending. I think he wrote it because the actual novel itself spends a lot of time with the mercenaries lured into Nazarick, and he couldn't help but feel a little bad about killing off everyone that both he and the readers actually LIKED. It is, however, very clearly unofficial and elseworld-y.

Overlord MENTIONS grimdark stuff once in a while, such as the head demon's source of new scroll materials (one experiment ends with the Librarian noting down, "9yo boy not strong enough to cast 4th level spell"), but it doesn't lovingly dote over how it happened the way that... other light novels... have doted over the horrors in their pages.

GODS, that's hard.

That IMHO is the difference between good and clumsy writing - the author of Overlord knows when to show something and when NOT to, both for horrific, dramatic, and amusing effect. Like later on, the succubus who's obsessed with Ainz meets the princess of the kingdom who's yandere for the commoner boy - and we never actually see the conversation, but before it the succubus is dismissive of the princess and afterwards says very nice things about her. It gives a wonderful image of the two of them sipping tea and fangirling out over their respective obsessions, and in between planning how to split the kingdom of Re-Estize between them.

Really, both Overlord and Reincarnated as a Slime have the worst isekai trope of all - the OP protagonist - so I feel like I SHOULD hate it, but it's the personalities and characters, as well as the way they differentiate from the archetypical lonely otaku harem isekai fantasy, that make them stand out.
um the Webnovel was before Light Novel. So that was OFFICIAL UNTIL HE TOOK A READER POLL for his Light Novel. And I hated that.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Darth Nichos on 29 October 2018, 21:15:26
I think I was fine with the episode 3x08 with the party dying until they had to hit us with the scene where the younger sisters were waiting for their older sister to come home; that to me was a bit overkill in my opinion

Just started watching Log Horizon; like it so far and a bit more lighter than Overlord
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 29 October 2018, 21:21:35
Log Horizon is a fun series.
As I mentioned upthread, I just don't overly care for the English dub. And this time, it isn't Sentai screwing up with the script localization, much. It's how they worked several of the main characters. They, IMHO, botched them big time!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Darth Nichos on 29 October 2018, 21:27:16
I am watching it via Sub; there is very few series I can do dub anymore- the Girls und Pazers dub ruined dub it for me
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 30 October 2018, 00:37:25
Which part of that dub, specifically?

Speaking of subbed, went and saw Spirited Away subbed.  It was in the theater tonight as part of Ghibli Fest.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 30 October 2018, 07:08:21
Log Horizon is a fun series.
As I mentioned upthread, I just don't overly care for the English dub. And this time, it isn't Sentai screwing up with the script localization, much. It's how they worked several of the main characters. They, IMHO, botched them big time!
It's how i feel about the dubs in general. There some good ones, but i prefer the original dialog. I can understand couple changes if the dialog makes no-sense vs script localization just changing it for sake of it.

I've seen fan subs, they're better than what official western translations / localization usually done. Also i hate the voice acting, alot time they stick with small group people who's voices just don't work for the character at all.  Japan uses people absolutely fits the character, where there sometimes limited field of choices for translator outfits.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 30 October 2018, 07:50:55
Which part of that dub, specifically?

Speaking of subbed, went and saw Spirited Away subbed.  It was in the theater tonight as part of Ghibli Fest.

My biggest issue is with how Nyata was done in the dub With Nyata, the dub makes him out like a pimp-daddy than the elder statesman he seems to be.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 30 October 2018, 11:43:55
Speaking of dubs, the Reincarnated as a Slime dub is... ehhh at best - the slime's voice comes across as cutesy and fun in the Japanese, but trying to replicate it exactly for the English just... doesn't work. It just doesn't.


Release the Spyce has a pleasantly Shadowrun vibe to it. Definitely going to watch more.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 31 October 2018, 07:04:25
Subs are best for a first pass of an anime where you really want to enjoy the dialog. Dubs are then good for the second pass so you can actually WATCH the anime and pick up all the visuals.

I have found a few anime where the dub is better. Not often, but it does happen.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 31 October 2018, 07:48:55
I love a good dub, but I honestly feel the quality of English dubs has been on the decline - with demand for more & faster releases all the time (simuldubs? Who thought that was a good idea?) & only a handful of studios that perform anime dubbing, so much of the work done on dubs today are rush-jobs where a director barely familiar with the property rushes the cast through single-take recording sessions. Gone are the days when passionate voice actors developed distinctive voices for their character, localizers labored to work the correct nuance into the script, & directors approached their work with the heart of an artist. In most instances, dubs are an assemby-line product now - technically well-made but largely soulless & indistinguishable from all the others. Sadly, short of Americans suddenly becoming willing to spend more money on BDs (ha!) I don't see any solution. The localization industry has already optimised to deliver the most dubbed shows at the lowest cost, & it is unlikely market trends will change the arithmatic any time soon...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 31 October 2018, 10:24:43
I love a good dub, but I honestly feel the quality of English dubs has been on the decline - with demand for more & faster releases all the time (simuldubs? Who thought that was a good idea?) & only a handful of studios that perform anime dubbing, so much of the work done on dubs today are rush-jobs where a director barely familiar with the property rushes the cast through single-take recording sessions. Gone are the days when passionate voice actors developed distinctive voices for their character, localizers labored to work the correct nuance into the script, & directors approached their work with the heart of an artist. In most instances, dubs are an assemby-line product now - technically well-made but largely soulless & indistinguishable from all the others. Sadly, short of Americans suddenly becoming willing to spend more money on BDs (ha!) I don't see any solution. The localization industry has already optimised to deliver the most dubbed shows at the lowest cost, & it is unlikely market trends will change the arithmatic any time soon...
While I do agree that some recent dubs are bad, others are just fine - and some are IMHO better than the Japanese. Interviews With Monster Girls is spot on, and that's been very recent; My Hero Academia's dub is good even for new minor cast members (Ms. Joke was so solid that I had to check and see what else she's done, and she's done very little!), and so on and so forth.

It's tempting to get all grognard, but honestly dubs have ALWAYS been hit or miss - and some of them have been downright awful, even for properties that SHOULD have had real effort put into it. Remember "Believe it!" Ugh.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 31 October 2018, 11:25:50
The first dubs in the 80s and 90s almost universally sucked.  It wasn't until the 00s when we started getting dubs like Cowboy Bebop or Trigun that were actually regarded as good.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 31 October 2018, 11:31:43
Finnish dub for Moomin is pretty good. For most other anime (and cartoons in general)... not so much.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 31 October 2018, 11:48:18
The first dubs in the 80s and 90s almost universally sucked.  It wasn't until the 00s when we started getting dubs like Cowboy Bebop or Trigun that were actually regarded as good.
The mid-90s is when some dubs started getting acceptable, particularly Viz's products. Ranma 1/2 dub is solid for the main cast - only a couple of regular characters are mediocre. I think it's the first dub I ever saw that actually made me want to watch it in English. As long as there aren't secondary characters on the screen, Slayers is decent too once they put Crispin Freeman in as Zelgadis.

The odd thing for me about an even older one, Macross/Robotech, is... well...

I prefer the Robotech dub over the redub that ADV released ten years ago.

I hate admitting it, but aside from Minmay the voice actors for Robotech were actually decent - especially Lisa, Rick, and Breetai. Capable of expressing emotion in the right places, sounding appropriate for their character ages and backgrounds, and so on. The redub is marred by a terrible bland Misa, a mediocre Hikaru, and Mari Iijima trying to reprise her role as Minmay over twenty years later - she doesn't have the RANGE to be a 16-year old girl at age 40ish, not like some professional seiyuu they could have hired instead to bring a foreign language feel to Minmay's character. It was plainly done as a publicity stunt, and it suuuucked.

Yes, I know Robotech is a butchered port, yes I know that Harmony Gold is bottom-feeding scum, but they actually picked a decent cast with only a few exceptions, which isn't bad for a 1980s-era dub. It's not a GREAT dub ("PRO-TO-CULTURE?!"), but it's better than the redub which is pretty sad.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 31 October 2018, 13:52:39
With the Girls und Panzer dub, I just end up laughing at how horribly the Japanese names get mangled.  Though by episode four or five everyone is at least mostly consistent with their pronunciations.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 31 October 2018, 15:01:58
You'd think when nearly all the dubs released are coming out of the same three studios & use the same pool of 30 or so voice actors they'd all be at least passingly familiar with the pronounciation of Japanese names but NOPE!  ;D
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 31 October 2018, 15:25:23
GuP stood out because they weren't even consistent at how they were mispronouncing the words.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: DarkSpade on 31 October 2018, 17:10:40
I've always had a horrible memory for names so I never even noticed.  xp
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 01 November 2018, 09:18:17
Considering that a lot of anime was brought over for regular TV I would HOPE they did a decent dub lol

RoboTech
StarBlazers
Thundersub
Captain Harlock
Tranzor Z
Voltron (Cars and Lions)

Probably more I never watched or don't remember, but those are the ones I remember most.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 01 November 2018, 10:39:16
For me, Dub vs Sub usually comes down to 'Which one did I watch first'. After I get used to a set of voices, it's hard to switch gears to the other set, they sound 'wrong'. These days I mostly get my anime through Crunchy so it's almost always subs first.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 02 November 2018, 09:58:13

Dubs for me.

Sorry, I'm a ********* normie.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 02 November 2018, 10:42:11
You filthy casuals with your Boku no Macadamia & your SAO hatedom & your not fawning over Japanese seiyu dressed half their age!  ;D You're the reason I can't hear the speaker running my Gundam panel over the 300 screaming Vic Mignogna fans in the next room!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 02 November 2018, 11:32:48
You filthy casuals with your Boku no Macadamia & your SAO hatedom & your not fawning over Japanese seiyu dressed half their age!  ;D You're the reason I can't hear the speaker running my Gundam panel over the 300 screaming Vic Mignogna fans in the next room!
Call me a filthy casual for liking dubs, will you?! Why, I remember watching Marmalade Boy and Fushigi Yuugi on VHS fansubs that had been copied so many times that at least a fifth of the show it was like trying to watch the Playboy Channel! Boy, I oughtta tan yer hide for dub-shaming! *shakes cane wildly* Why, back in my day, we were glad to have ANY anime, no matter how bad the dub was! I recall one time when... *voice fades in the distance as nurse wheels away chair*
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 02 November 2018, 11:43:42
Fushigi Yuugi

Man, I loved Fushigi Yugi! Gods did Watase-sensei drop a hammer on my heart in the second half, though!  Pioneer/Geneon really did have the objectively best dubs in the industry too. I miss them so much!  :'(
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 02 November 2018, 11:49:42
copied so many times that at least a fifth of the show it was like trying to watch the Playboy Channel!
Eh, i remember watching Urotsukidouji on TV in what was clearly a like already 50-times copied version being broadcast, with the subs (of course subs) being fully illegible from the scattering... and yes, i of course took a VHS tape of that broadcast. And kept it around until i could get a DVD copy twenty years later.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ruger on 02 November 2018, 17:28:02
Man, I loved Fushigi Yugi! Gods did Watase-sensei drop a hammer on my heart in the second half, though!  Pioneer/Geneon really did have the objectively best dubs in the industry too. I miss them so much!  :'(

I loved that series as well...parts of it were simply gut-wrenching as they made you care so much for the characters...

Ruger
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 02 November 2018, 20:12:30
It's tempting to get all grognard, but honestly dubs have ALWAYS been hit or miss - and some of them have been downright awful, even for properties that SHOULD have had real effort put into it. Remember "Believe it!" Ugh.

I hate to say, but "Believe it!" was just as common in the subtitled version as the dubbed  version.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 02 November 2018, 20:36:51
I'm pretty sure it was common in the manga.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 02 November 2018, 20:39:13
Well, when you're translating a nonsense phrase, the result can only ever be nonsense.....
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 02 November 2018, 21:05:59
And supernatural martial art shonen titles certainly have a lot of nonsense phrases.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 02 November 2018, 21:59:38
And supernatural martial art shonen titles certainly have a lot of nonsense phrases.

This is actually one of the problems I have with subtitles - they inject a false sense of intellectualism into the script when in fact there is none. Dialogue sounds corny as hell? Think it's the dub's fault? Let me tell you, chances are the dialogue is just as cheesy in Japanese, you just didn't pick up on it because you're unaccustomed to the language & reading the words imparts an unintended studious quality to the delivery, akin to how the humor in Shakespeare is somewhat lost through the filter of linguistic drift. Anime is really dorky. If you're cringing at the dub, chances are there's some middle-aged Japanese viewer doing the same with the original audio just before they change the channel to watch something more mundane.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 02 November 2018, 22:05:54
Believe it!

Sorry, couldn't resist.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 02 November 2018, 22:21:09
I hate to say, but "Believe it!" was just as common in the subtitled version as the dubbed  version.
This is actually one of the problems I have with subtitles - they inject a false sense of intellectualism into the script when in fact there is none. Dialogue sounds corny as hell? Think it's the dub's fault? Let me tell you, chances are the dialogue is just as cheesy in Japanese, you just didn't pick up on it because you're unaccustomed to the language & reading the words imparts an unintended studious quality to the delivery, akin to how the humor in Shakespeare is somewhat lost through the filter of linguistic drift. Anime is really dorky. If you're cringing at the dub, chances are there's some middle-aged Japanese viewer doing the same with the original audio just before they change the channel to watch something more mundane.
This is why it didn't hurt as bad.

Though I always disliked the main characters of that show (especially the mangaka's disturbing lurve for Sasuke); it's the secondary characters who are far more interesting. No one over the age of 8 likes any of the three mains if asked; it's always someone else.

Believe it.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 03 November 2018, 01:28:24
Anime is really dorky. If you're cringing at the dub, chances are there's some middle-aged Japanese viewer doing the same with the original audio just before they change the channel to watch something more mundane.
More mundane? Like live-action adaptation of popular anime & manga? xp
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 03 November 2018, 06:06:21
You filthy casuals with your Boku no Macadamia & your SAO hatedom & your not fawning over Japanese seiyu dressed half their age!  ;D You're the reason I can't hear the speaker running my Gundam panel over the 300 screaming Vic Mignogna fans in the next room!

Damn straight.


I've watched anime both ways, and just prefer the dub over the sub. I'll watch them subbed if I'm without a choice but yeah, guilty of being a filthy casual.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 03 November 2018, 10:01:17
This is actually one of the problems I have with subtitles - they inject a false sense of intellectualism into the script when in fact there is none.
And while we're at it, fansubs/scanlations tend to interject a HELL of a lot more cursing that is actually prevalent.

Never mind my personal beef...insisting on keeping Japanese words when they have a perfectly fine English equivalent.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 03 November 2018, 11:36:57
guilty of being a filthy casual.

 ;D Sorry, man! I just couldn't not give you a little razzing after you declared yourself a ****** normie!

And while we're at it, fansubs/scanlations tend to interject a HELL of a lot more cursing that is actually prevalent.

That's oftentimes a localization thing. It's kind of hard to find the right way to translate a character deliberately using inappropriately informal language with someone to belittle them, since English doesn't have the multiple layers of linguistic politeness present in Japanese. A lot of translators reach straight for swearing because a lot of Americans curse pretty casually & it conveys the same message of "I don't respect you". There's certainly other ways to do it, but like all localization decisions a lot of it comes down to subjective interpretation of the characters & their dialogue.

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Never mind my personal beef...insisting on keeping Japanese words when they have a perfectly fine English equivalent.

Yeah, that really sort of defeats the purpose of a translation, doesn't it? Certainly, I think there are a number of Japanese words that just aren't easily translated into a single English word equivalent, but was a lot more prevalent in fansubs than the language dictates.

Honestly, my pet-peeve in translation is almost the opposite, though - altering forms of address. When a girl refers to her classmate as "Shimada-san", and the translator decides to translate that as "Kyoko" instead of "Ms. Shimada" it drives me up the damn wall!  ;D I understand that the intent is to make their interaction sound like an ordinary classmate conversation in English, but the level of formality being used is not linguistic, it's cultural! The character speaking does not have a comfortable, casual relationship with Ms. Shimada! There's a level of social distance in their relationship that's being erased by the translation because someone felt that would make the dialogue awkward, but it is supposed to be awkward! Ms. Shimada is not someone they'd just go to karaoke with after school.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 03 November 2018, 11:50:03
That's oftentimes a localization thing. It's kind of hard to find the right way to translate a character deliberately using inappropriately informal language with someone to belittle them, since English doesn't have the multiple layers of linguistic politeness present in Japanese. A lot of translators reach straight for swearing because a lot of Americans curse pretty casually & it conveys the same message of "I don't respect you". There's certainly other ways to do it, but like all localization decisions a lot of it comes down to subjective interpretation of the characters & their dialogue.

That is true, but it was still common back in the days when fansubs were typically the only way to get anime in the US that a lot of fansubbers would take a kid's show and have every character swear like Revy from Black Lagoon.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Maingunnery on 03 November 2018, 11:51:07
That is true, but it was still common back in the days when fansubs were typically the only way to get anime in the US that a lot of fansubbers would take a kid's show and have every character swear like Revy from Black Lagoon.
Good times.  ;D
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Post by: kato on 03 November 2018, 12:04:23
a lot of fansubbers would take a kid's show and have every character swear like Revy from Black Lagoon.
... Crunchyroll does that professionally. At least for their German subs, French and Spanish too to a lesser extent.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 03 November 2018, 12:59:12
I don't watch much stuff on Crunchy since I too prefer dubs and also I find their ads incredibly annoying, given how they blare out at massive volume.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 03 November 2018, 16:26:31
That's oftentimes a localization thing. It's kind of hard to find the right way to translate a character deliberately using inappropriately informal language with someone to belittle them, since English doesn't have the multiple layers of linguistic politeness present in Japanese. A lot of translators reach straight for swearing because a lot of Americans curse pretty casually & it conveys the same message of "I don't respect you". There's certainly other ways to do it, but like all localization decisions a lot of it comes down to subjective interpretation of the characters & their dialogue.
TVtropes has an article about it (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AvoidTheDreadedGRating)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 03 November 2018, 16:29:38
;D Sorry, man! I just couldn't not give you a little razzing after you declared yourself a ****** normie!



Because I am. I'm learning, but I have nowhere near the knowledge of anyone else in this thread.

That is true, but it was still common back in the days when fansubs were typically the only way to get anime in the US that a lot of fansubbers would take a kid's show and have every character swear like Revy from Black Lagoon.

Now those people do it to Western cartoons and post it on YouTube so little kids can find it and learn swear words. 
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 03 November 2018, 16:53:39
Now those people do it to Western cartoons and post it on YouTube so little kids can find it and learn swear words.
I learned swearing just by listening my father ::)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 03 November 2018, 17:52:58
Now those people do it to Western cartoons and post it on YouTube so little kids can find it and learn swear words.

Back when I was that age, I had to learn swear words from other kids at school.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Weirdo on 03 November 2018, 19:05:26
Isn't progress a wonderful thing?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 03 November 2018, 21:46:40
hehe

Curse like a sailor, Spongebob edition!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 03 November 2018, 23:06:04
Because I am. I'm learning, but I have nowhere near the knowledge of anyone else in this thread.

That's okay, we'll get you leveled up in no time! Soon your ability to relate to normal people will be completely ruined!
(https://i.imgur.com/XbFVzl6.gif)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Weirdo on 04 November 2018, 00:29:09
Normal...people...?

(https://31.media.tumblr.com/2e47bbbf3ee4c19faa8b44f2381e95cc/tumblr_inline_mxznmi3VDJ1r3zat8.png)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 04 November 2018, 01:18:25
As Trillian put it "we will be returning to normal just as soon as we figure out what 'normal' is."
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 04 November 2018, 01:41:13
As one Finnish man (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spede_Pasanen) put it: "We humans are so different that normal human don't exist."
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Bedwyr on 04 November 2018, 20:54:36
I'm going through Gundam Origins right now on Bluray. Have episodes 5 and 6 been translated? I don't watch a lot of anime so I'm pretty ignorant of the speed of dubs and exports.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 04 November 2018, 23:21:18
I'm going through Gundam Origins right now on Bluray. Have episodes 5 and 6 been translated? I don't watch a lot of anime so I'm pretty ignorant of the speed of dubs and exports.

Episodes 5 & 6 have at least been streamed in English, but there's no Western release announced yet, that I have seen. I'm sure Rightstuf will release it eventually.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Darth Nichos on 04 November 2018, 23:33:49
The entire series in on Hulu currently; both Sub and Dub
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 05 November 2018, 10:44:32
Yeah, that really sort of defeats the purpose of a translation, doesn't it? Certainly, I think there are a number of Japanese words that just aren't easily translated into a single English word equivalent, but was a lot more prevalent in fansubs than the language dictates.
Most recent example...a scanlation insisting on using 'kaa-san' and 'too-san' when talking to his mom and dad instead of...you know, Mom and Dad.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 05 November 2018, 10:49:54
All according to keikaku it seems.....
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 05 November 2018, 11:44:49
Most recent example...a scanlation insisting on using 'kaa-san' and 'too-san' when talking to his mom and dad instead of...you know, Mom and Dad.

What a baka.

Anyway, decided to rewatch Last Exile.  Haven't seen it since it was new.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 05 November 2018, 11:45:12
All according to keikaku it seems.....
Who? ???
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 05 November 2018, 11:54:37
Plan.  Keikaku is the phonetic spelling of the Japanese word for plan.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 05 November 2018, 11:56:27
Who? ???
(http://i.imgur.com/LHxOhi9.jpg)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 05 November 2018, 12:00:34
Plan.  Keikaku is the phonetic spelling of the Japanese word for plan.
(http://i.imgur.com/6fS1EBs.jpg)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 08 November 2018, 16:11:33
Looks like Pacific Rim franchise is getting a anime net-series. (https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/8/18075394/pacific-rim-altered-carbon-cagaster-of-an-insect-cage-yasuke-trese-netflix-anime-slate)  The Verge reported that Netflix is fronting the new show, which suppose to be about teenager and his kid sister piloting a abandoned Jaeger to look for their parents. I think this must be for kids, since its bit less believable to me kids would manage salvage one these titans, given how much they showed maintenance people are swarming them to keep them going.

It will look interesting how it turns out.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Øystein on 08 November 2018, 17:23:12
Netflix is also making a Altered Carbon anime to supplement their series.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 10 November 2018, 13:55:12
Looks like Pacific Rim franchise is getting a anime net-series. (https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/8/18075394/pacific-rim-altered-carbon-cagaster-of-an-insect-cage-yasuke-trese-netflix-anime-slate)  The Verge reported that Netflix is fronting the new show, which suppose to be about teenager and his kid sister piloting a abandoned Jaeger to look for their parents. I think this must be for kids, since its bit less believable to me kids would manage salvage one these titans, given how much they showed maintenance people are swarming them to keep them going.

It will look interesting how it turns out.

I'd much rather see animated adventures of some of the fights from prior to the events of the first movie but OK.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 10 November 2018, 15:02:53
Goblin Slayer anime has cut about volume's worth of manga material, including ruin exploration and battle against Goblin Lord. Disappointing.

[edit]
Goblin Slayer seems to be one of Crunchyroll's most popular series this season. Could be the most popular if not for regional restrictions. Obviously all the noise made about it has paid off.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Triptych on 10 November 2018, 15:28:18
I prefer techy, space opera animes, so here are my favs so far:

Robotech and Gundam- classics
Knights of Sidonia- I really like the attention to real space physics, like gravity and acceleration. but it ended on an anti-climax on season 2. Where's season 3?
Code Gease- excellent plot, but I did fast forward through the teen high school stuff
Aldnoah.zero- mechs on rollerskates, but still good lol
Legend of the Galactic Heroes- I tried hard to like this, but it got too repetitive and downright pretentious.

(https://i.imgur.com/c44yafE.jpg)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 10 November 2018, 15:50:01
Code Gease
Code Geass

More space opera (and mecha) you could like:
Armored Trooper VOTOMS
More realistic kind of mecha action.

Bodacious Space Pirates
High school girls in space with some real space physics.

Crest of the Stars and Banner of the Stars
3 seasons of epic space opera.

Outlaw Star
Spaceships doing physical combat!!? That aside, it has similarities to Cowboy Bebop and Firefly.'

08th MS Team and Iron Blooded Orphans
BattleTech vibes are strong in these Gundam shows.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 11 November 2018, 12:16:49
My space opera stuff is my main favorites of the genre.

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 12 November 2018, 12:08:19
So is Crusher Joe or Fang up anywhere?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 12 November 2018, 12:54:10
Break Blade is a fantasy mecha anime with a real Battletech feel. I didn't see it recommended earlier, but the production quality was amazing, & it's short enough to be easily digestible!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 12 November 2018, 13:26:47
Didn't see it mentioned yet, but the second "season" of Castlevenia got posted on Netflix last month.  Pretty well done, I thought.  I'm wondering how season 3 is going to play out.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 12 November 2018, 15:35:24
So is Crusher Joe or Fang up anywhere?
I got all of Crusher Joe from Amazon.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 12 November 2018, 15:39:51
There appears to be a new anime out that Mecha based. It's called the Price of Smiles.
ANN reported this (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-11-07/tatsunoko-productions-the-price-of-smiles-tv-anime-streams-promo-video/.139172), its odd story. The trailer for it full of action, though i think it maybe more than just that.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 12 November 2018, 15:42:33
So is Crusher Joe or Fang up anywhere?
Anime Planet has Fang for 75 US bucks for entire series on DVD.

I'm not sure about digital only stuff. I've not seen any.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 13 November 2018, 10:02:47
Hmm.. Would be nice to watch Fang first before blowing 75 on it. Shame anime planet doesn't have an agreement with amazon like it does with hulu. Wouldn't mind watching Crusher Joe there even if it did have commercials. Oh well, could just sign my parents up for a prime trial lol. As much as my mom spends on presents for the grandkids it would be worth it I think.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 13 November 2018, 11:45:25
So, I'm not an animation snob. If it has a good story, then I can usually watch it.

But Fang of the Sun Dougram has bad animation even for its time. Like, take the worst clunkiest animation from the original Macross, such as when the shrunk Zentradi are bumbling around in their pod trying to infiltrate the SDF-1 or the knife fight between Milla and Max, and stretch it out over 70 episodes.

The story is there. I WANT to like it. But it's trying to be a mecha anime on a shojo anime budget.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 13 November 2018, 15:30:08
Well I can watch almost any anime. I sat through the entire series Nana even though it drags on. The story is good but it is rather dull taking 40-50 episodes if I recall. I did enjoy it, but not so much I would watch it a second or third time. Or even watch both sub and dub (if it has both).
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 14 November 2018, 10:46:45
Yesterday I had an inspiration (of sorts). So here is my crappy attempt at poetry inspired by Goblin Slayer. Imagine bard from episode #2 singing it. May contain spoilers.
Quote
In dungeons beneath of Water Town. Goblins gather, waiting for the moment to strike.
Night falls on town, goblins come out. They murder and rape, citizens are in fear.
Soldiers fighting demons don't come for help. Man from the frontier answer Sword Maiden's call.
With fury of vengeance, man storms goblins' nest. Numbered in hundreds, the goblins die.
Rip and tear until it is done. But then appears a terrible foe.
Height of two men, it is Champion of goblins. Full of rage, Champion charges man.
Two strong clash and the halls are trembling. Ceiling crash down, is this the end?
Goblins under the rubble, man still stands. Battered and bruised, man returns in triumph.
In Temple of Law, Sword Maiden welcomes the man. Sword Maiden calls man her equal and friend.
If goblins are troubling, call for this man. For man of the frontier is Goblin Slayer!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 14 November 2018, 13:17:26
Fang is dated for sure, animation wise. However it was just right blend of stuff to make me love it.  I've watched the series subbed, it enjoyable.

I get real kick partially due to me being Battletech player,since you see so much what their doing that blends with Battletech behaves in some cases.  Some of things they do are bit odd, but overall i enjoyed it.

One my favorite scenes was near end of the series. Where the Dougram (aka the Shadow Hawk) Death From Above a Scorpion.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 16 November 2018, 16:39:45
https://www.cnet.com/news/castlevanias-adi-shankar-developing-new-devil-may-cry-series/

"In an interview with IGN Friday, Shankar declared that he had acquired the rights "so the jabronis in Hollywood don't **** this one up too.""
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 17 November 2018, 12:10:07
Catching up on Overlord.  I really like the premise, and am intrigued to see where it goes.  In the middle of season 2 on Hulu.


Question: Is the new She-Ra on Netflix any good?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 17 November 2018, 12:18:33
https://www.cnet.com/news/castlevanias-adi-shankar-developing-new-devil-may-cry-series/

"In an interview with IGN Friday, Shankar declared that he had acquired the rights "so the jabronis in Hollywood don't **** this one up too.""

 ;D Can't argue with that line of reasoning! I've got a list of other game properties he can look at, if he gets some time!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 17 November 2018, 12:21:39
Question: Is the new She-Ra on Netflix any good?

I've only seen three episodes so far.  I'm not finding it as compelling as Votron: Legendary Defender but it seems pretty good.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Bedwyr on 17 November 2018, 16:05:13
I've only seen three episodes so far.  I'm not finding it as compelling as Voltron: Legendary Defender but it seems pretty good.

Voltron is a hard act to follow. I'm at the end of Season 2 and where it started occasionally weak, the story and action have really picked up.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 17 November 2018, 19:49:43
Wait until you get to Season 5 on Voltron.

Watched episode 4 of She-Ra this morning.  I like the fact that the hippy princess joins the rebellion so she can hit people.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 17 November 2018, 21:15:20
Goblin Slayer anime has cut about volume's worth of manga material, including ruin exploration and battle against Goblin Lord. Disappointing.

I'll bet you that the Farm sequence has not been cut, but that it will come at the end of the current water town arc.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 17 November 2018, 21:22:10
Watching and very much enjoying:

-Irozuku Sekai no Ashita kara

-Bunny girl senpai

-Goblin Slayer

-Golden Kamuy

I tried Index III but after two episodes I realized that, despite a total of 4 previous closely linked series in this universe that none of the characters had any growth at all.  :(
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: DarkSpade on 17 November 2018, 21:55:05
-Bunny girl senpai

Huh...

*google image search*

okay, not sure what else I expected it to be.

*wikipedia search for plot synopsis*

Wait, what?

Okay, intrigued.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 17 November 2018, 23:32:37
Huh...

*google image search*

okay, not sure what else I expected it to be.

*wikipedia search for plot synopsis*

Wait, what?

Okay, intrigued.

The show is quite good. I love the dialogue and chemistry between the male and female leads.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ghostbear_Gurdel on 17 November 2018, 23:46:17
The show is quite good. I love the dialogue and chemistry between the male and female leads.
I love how they actually, ya know... talk to each other :P
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 18 November 2018, 05:03:39
I'll bet you that the Farm sequence has not been cut, but that it will come at the end of the current water town arc.
Yeah, somebody else has theorized the same before. My thought was that anime director (or one above him) considered it to be filler material and removed it in order to make room to complete the story with less # of episodes. 12 episodes according Wikipedia, and 7 have been covered. Water Town arc will take at least 1 episode more, which leaves 4 episodes for rest of the season and to (maybe?) complete the story.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 18 November 2018, 07:28:05
Yeah, somebody else has theorized the same before. My thought was that anime director (or one above him) considered it to be filler material and removed it in order to make room to complete the story with less # of episodes. 12 episodes according Wikipedia, and 7 have been covered. Water Town arc will take at least 1 episode more, which leaves 4 episodes for rest of the season and to (maybe?) complete the story.

That could be, but then that would waste the build up of his relationship to the place he lives and the girl he lives withl. I think they will go back. Going back and covering the 'missing arc' would also produce a better season wrap-up.  :)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 20 November 2018, 06:59:39
More bad news for mecha anime... :'( https://fast.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-11-20/anime-studio-xebec-production-operations-to-be-transfered-to-sunrise/.139751 (https://fast.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-11-20/anime-studio-xebec-production-operations-to-be-transfered-to-sunrise/.139751)
Production IG is selling Studio Xebec to Sunrise due to mounting losses. This effectively reduces the number of studios that regularly will invest in producing mecha anime to just two - Sunrise & Satelight. Xebec was hardly my favorite of the three, but with Sunrise primarily focused on Gundam & Satelight on Macross & Aquarion, Xebec regularly stepped into the breach to produce all manner of original mecha stories. I expect Sunrise will complete any outstanding contracts for Xebec, but I think just about any hope of FMP being continued after IV is gone - there simply isn't another studio with the proficiency that won't be better off financially allocating resources elsewhere. I might have to rewarch Rinne no Lagrange tonight to see them off in style!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 20 November 2018, 08:38:33
eesh. Heavy Hit. It will take independent studios (like outside of Japan) to produce old school scifi shows. Unless they can work out some kind of deal with toy maker like they did in the old days. There must be a Magic Girl/Moe/Idol Star bubble that going burst somewhere. I'm kinda tired of that show being the norm when anything is made.

Is there sign of tastes in Japan fandom changing or they more into video games? More i see these games, animated clips, more i think scifi leaning fans are there now playing more interactive scifi aka games.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 20 November 2018, 10:05:32
eesh. Heavy Hit. It will take independent studios (like outside of Japan) to produce old school scifi shows. Unless they can work out some kind of deal with toy maker like they did in the old days.

It's definitely a cost/benefit challenge. Developing a good mecha anime costs a lot vs. the profit that is to be had. That's why it's Gundam & Macross that get made & not a whole lot else - they're established properties that people still buy by the truckload.

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There must be a Magic Girl/Moe/Idol Star bubble that going burst somewhere. I'm kinda tired of that show being the norm when anything is made.

We've definitely hit peak idol anime - IdolM@ster & Love Live are the big two (plus Uta wa Prince-sama on the male sidd) & all the other names are slowly getting pushed out of the market. WUG has come to an end & they were the closest thing to a serious competitor. Bushiroad has tried to transition to bands with BanG Dream! with mixed results.

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Is there sign of tastes in Japan fandom changing or they more into video games? More i see these games, animated clips, more i think scifi leaning fans are there now playing more interactive scifi aka games.

Moe has definitely taken a backseat to a mobage backed fantasy revival, although I'd say there's yet to be a new dominate market trend since the isekai boom a couple of years ago. The anime industry is still struggling with the inevitable collapse of the Japanese BD market a few years ago.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 20 November 2018, 11:02:21
This effectively reduces the number of studios that regularly will invest in producing mecha anime to just two - Sunrise & Satelight. Xebec was hardly my favorite of the three, but with Sunrise primarily focused on Gundam & Satelight on Macross & Aquarion, Xebec regularly stepped into the breach to produce all manner of original mecha stories.
Hasn't A-1 Pictures made mecha in recent years? Yes it has: Aldnoah.Zero in 2014-15.

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And more recently, Darling in the Franxx was made just this year by CloverWorks and Trigger.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: mdauben on 20 November 2018, 11:43:38
I expect Sunrise will complete any outstanding contracts for Xebec, but I think just about any hope of FMP being continued after IV is gone - there simply isn't another studio with the proficiency that won't be better off financially allocating resources elsewhere.
:'(  :'(  :'(
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 20 November 2018, 12:04:37
This effectively reduces the number of studios that regularly will invest in producing mecha anime to just two - Sunrise & Satelight.
There's at least three more with regular investment: 8-Bit, Polygon Pictures and Orange.

8-Bit did Knights' and Magic and Comet Lucifer in the last few years, Polygon Pictures does Knights of Sidonia. Polygon Pictures may be a bit less known for being the animation studio behind animated Transformers and animated Star Wars series. Orange does mecha animation generally in coproduction with other studios, e.g. Active Raid or Majestic Prince.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Bedwyr on 20 November 2018, 12:11:09
I was also just talking about Voltron which is made by a Dreamworks studio contracting animation to Studio Mir in South Korea which also did Korra and Boondocks. If you want experimentation in mecha anime, I don't think that's necessarily a good sign (Mir does Korra and Boondocks), but it does demonstrate capability where there's producer interest in a mecha show.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 20 November 2018, 12:17:16
Hasn't A-1 Pictures made mecha in recent years? Yes it has: Aldnoah.Zero in 2014-15.

And more recently, Darling in the Franxx was made just this year by CloverWorks and Trigger.

"Made a mecha anime once in the past decade" is not the same thing as "make mecha anime regularly". Plenty of studios have produced a one-off mecha anime as a passion project, but as a regular part of their business model, only Sunrise, Satelight & until now Xebec made mecha anime on an ongoing basis. Aldnoah Zero moved an average of 7k on disk, FranXX just shy of 5k. To put that in perspective, Karakai Jouzu no Takagi-san reaped similar domestic sales at a fraction of the cost to produce. FranXX business model was most likely wholly dependent on the strength of Trigger's brand overseas. Mecha just doesn't sell like it used to. It's never going to die out, but it's quickly dwindling away to be a very niche part of the industry.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 20 November 2018, 12:33:26
There's at least three more with regular investment: 8-Bit, Polygon Pictures and Orange.

Comet Lucifer was an epic bomb, though. Knights & Magic did a bit better, but I'm not sure how many more mecha light novel adaptations exist that publishers are looking to bankroll.

As for Polygon & Orange, I didn't include them because they both only have one traditional mecha anime each, & both are from several years ago. In fact, up until Land of the Lustrous Studio Orange had only provided CG support to traditional animation studios.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 20 November 2018, 13:05:19
The problem is also that development cycles on mecha anime are ridiculous compared to the usual "just animate it" 18-month cycles for LN adaptions.

Technically at least Megaton Musashi (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHKeC-4XEBo) (13 minute trailer) still has the necessary friction to make 2020/21 really grand for the genre. I mean, anything Level-5 touches is considered to be a real goldmine by everyone else since Youkai Watch. And, uh, for the necessary money... well, see below i guess.

(https://abload.de/img/megatonoqciu.jpg)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 20 November 2018, 15:37:52
The problem is also that development cycles on mecha anime are ridiculous compared to the usual "just animate it" 18-month cycles for LN adaptions.

Technically at least Megaton Musashi (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHKeC-4XEBo) (13 minute trailer) still has the necessary friction to make 2020/21 really grand for the genre. I mean, anything Level-5 touches is considered to be a real goldmine by everyone else since Youkai Watch. And, uh, for the necessary money... well, see below i guess.

(https://abload.de/img/megatonoqciu.jpg)
Hope their still working on it.  What i could find  Megaton Musashi maybe coming 2019.   It reminds me more of a Super Robot Genre show, like RoboG in a Eva sort situation by the third movie.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 20 November 2018, 16:32:02
Hope their still working on it.  What i could find Megaton Musashi maybe coming 2019.
They announced six weeks ago that they will have news to announce for it for Jump Festa 2019 (next month), so the project is still or again very active.

It's actually mostly the rather prominent involvement of Bandai that makes it interesting. So it's basically not just Nintendo (which Level-5 really is) and Dentsu (as one of the largest advertising agencies worldwide), but also a company in the background who has been actively looking for a replacement for their still premier toy line (which brought it 100 billion yen in the last five years) since about the time that trailer was published.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 22 November 2018, 04:36:51
eesh. Heavy Hit. It will take independent studios (like outside of Japan) to produce old school scifi shows.


I think that is exactly what you will see.  Likely mecha anime or anime-style shows will come out of China, Korea, or even the US.

I think gen:LOCK's success or failure will be a good test for this.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Elmoth on 22 November 2018, 10:37:57
I hope that any future mech shows are OK. The final themes of macrooss or evangelion did not appeal much to me even if the mechs were good.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 22 November 2018, 11:59:25
I hope that any future mech shows are OK. The final themes of macrooss or evangelion did not appeal much to me even if the mechs were good.
Did Argevollen appeal to you? It came out 2014, it was scifi-military thing. It wasn't bad.

Technically speaking, thinking about it. It's very much setup (the show) like Fangs of the Sun, Dougram. (except different planet thing & no planes)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 22 November 2018, 12:18:36
Did Argevollen appeal to you?
Oh yeah. Crunchyroll has it but with some censorship. At least in shower scene, and I didn't watch it further than that. Disc version is free of censorship and I have it.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 22 November 2018, 13:01:40
Argevollen was another great Xebec anime! Anyone who likes mecha should defimitely give it a try, it's a very fun show.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 22 November 2018, 13:10:26
I will do that.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 24 November 2018, 02:05:22
Me, too.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 24 November 2018, 22:50:29
I really liked Argovollen except for the young male MC.  :P
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 25 November 2018, 08:07:31
I really liked Argovollen except for the young male MC.  :P
At least he's not a tweenager. Or under 10 pilot as usually they seem to be nowadays.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 25 November 2018, 09:59:23
At least he's not a tweenager. Or under 10 pilot as usually they seem to be nowadays.

(https://i.imgur.com/mlZku4F.jpg)

I'll have you know she's actually several hundred years old!  ;D
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Øystein on 28 November 2018, 06:58:54
Annoyment - I am in Japan on vacation right now, and thus get the Japanese content of Netflix. So much to watch, but all in japanese which I don't understand. Cry!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 28 November 2018, 07:27:24
That's disappointing, but it's a bit of a waste to spend your vacation watching TV anyway! If you need something to kill some time, the big bookstores oftern have English study versions of certain manga with the dialogie in both Japanese & English - you can always try to pick one up!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 28 November 2018, 07:28:19
Annoyment - I am in Japan on vacation right now, and thus get the Japanese content of Netflix. So much to watch, but all in japanese which I don't understand. Cry!
Is there not option change languge thing or subcaptions for NexFlix?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Øystein on 28 November 2018, 07:30:43
YEs, but for content only available in Japan the options are japanse with japanese subtitles. :D

I only see it because I'm on a japanse IP#.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 28 November 2018, 08:16:24
Got an email this morning about a 10 DVD mystery bundle from Crunchyroll for $22. Figure this is probably mostly filled with the stuff they can't sell but could still be worth it??

Doesn't offer much about what exactly it has. Are they mostly movies? Partial seasons? Full seasons??? Anyone know?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 28 November 2018, 11:40:56
In the past it seems to have been mostly a random mix of multiple series where if you were really, really lucky you'd get more than one volume (as in 4 eps) of the same series. Last year they apparently also threw a bunch of OVAs they couldn't sell into it.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 28 November 2018, 11:55:53
In the past it seems to have been mostly a random mix of multiple series where if you were really, really lucky you'd get more than one volume (as in 4 eps) of the same series. Last year they apparently also threw a bunch of OVAs they couldn't sell into it.
Soo... Loot boxes?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 28 November 2018, 12:01:30
I think Crunchyroll may die within year given how all their source of media are turning make their own services.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 28 November 2018, 12:25:17
By the way, Live-Action Cowboy Bebop is happening (https://www.engadget.com/2018/11/28/cowboy-bebop-netflix/?utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=morningafter) on NetFlix.

10 episodes order, no sign what it going look like. It could be good, could be rehasing, or it could be bad.
I'm not fan of this sort treatment of my treasured animes.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Luciora on 28 November 2018, 12:32:42
People wanted anime to go mainstream.  This is exactly what happens.  If it wasn't we wouldn't have gotten the other live action movies like Dragonball, GitS, or Alita.

These things were pipe dreams in the 80s and 90s. Fans should have been careful what they wished for .

By the way, Live-Action Cowboy Bebop is happening (https://www.engadget.com/2018/11/28/cowboy-bebop-netflix/?utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=morningafter) on NetFlix.

10 episodes order, no sign what it going look like. It could be good, could be rehasing, or it could be bad.
I'm not fan of this sort treatment of my treasured animes.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 28 November 2018, 12:39:05
*insert netflix adaptation meme*
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 28 November 2018, 12:40:25
This sounds horrible.

I'm going to listen to Yokko Kano music until the bad images go away.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 28 November 2018, 15:08:11
What may not sound horrible is Gundam NT. (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-11-27/gundam-nt-anime-long-promo-video-previews-theme-song/.140016) ANN just posted a promo video that's region locked to Japan but their able show the trailer.

I'm still not keen on the design, sorry seems to be continuation of Gundam Unicorn.  Third Unicorn. Though i wonder (without trying find the special) if this is the same third Unicorn that was in cameoed in a special for Gundam Reconguista in G: From the Past to the Future.  This link to MAHQ profile (http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/unicorn-msv/rx-0-phenex.htm) for the Phenex which is same name as the one in Gundam NT. i think they are infact the same machine.  There mode where it does not have those chain things running down it's booster.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 28 November 2018, 19:19:02
i think they are infact the same machine.  There mode where it does not have those chain things running down it's booster.

They are - there's only one RX-0-03 Unicorn Gundam, nicknamed "Fenex". The 03 denotes that it is the third unit in the Unicorn line, after the original & the Banshee. This is not the first work it's appeared in, also appearing in a manga-series in addition to a pair of CG films created for Bandai's Gundam Center in Odaiba. The one appearing in the G-Reco short is a new unit based on the original blueprints.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 28 November 2018, 20:12:06
Bunny Girl Senpai continues to deliver excellent episodes!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 29 November 2018, 15:24:21
Bunny Girl Senpai continues to deliver excellent episodes!  :thumbsup:
I understand it has a high school girl going invisible when she does bunny girl cosplay. But what is genre? If comedy, is it as good as Uzamaid?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 29 November 2018, 15:36:18
But what is genre?
Dialogue-heavy teen drama with some requisite romance.

The bunny suit is just an initial hook to the main plot device, and isn't really relevant to it.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 29 November 2018, 16:10:40
Shad has made a video about Goblin Slayer. WARNING! Comments on the page may have something that violates forum rules, not like I have read all 3000+ of them :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGNbiTZp8s8
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 29 November 2018, 17:28:43
Shad has made a video about Goblin Slayer. WARNING! Comments on the page may have something that violates forum rules, not like I have read all 3000+ of them :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGNbiTZp8s8
saw that yesterday. very good commentary.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 01 December 2018, 13:04:19
Episode #9 wraps up Goblin Slayer's Water Town arc.
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What's in my pocket?
Crunchyroll has couple interesting and bit funny articles about Goblin Slayer. I recommend fans over here to read them. WARNING! Some screen captures have gore and user comments don't meet this forum's rules!
https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-feature/2018/11/29/goblin-slayer-is-just-like-your-first-dd-game
https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-feature/2018/11/21/goblin-slayer-is-gross-and-we-love-it

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More than anything, the central party of Goblin Slayer screams "amateur D&D group." Two players have inevitably selected an elf and a dwarf, and come to the unspoken agreement of carrying on their proud tradition of endless quarreling. The odd player player that enjoys strange monster races and even stranger prestige classes whose idea of roleplaying is speaking in unhelpful riddles. The newest player who's opted on playing a rookie to reflect their own inexperience, and has admirably filled the role of group healer. Then, there’s that guy who has min-maxed the heck out of his character and is very transparently metagaming, since they value experience points over memorable roleplaying experience.
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Then there’s everyone try to get a rise out of Goblin Slayer and his ardent refusal to roleplay.
Goblin Slayer is supposed to be dark fantasy, but I got some good laughs of it today. More so than from many supposed comedies ;D :D
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Darth Nichos on 01 December 2018, 15:23:14
New "Lelouch of the Resurrection" Trailer is up via Funimation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeiBsQkdUMM&t=0s

Looks interesting
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ghostbear_Gurdel on 01 December 2018, 21:49:13
Regarding Goblin Slayer Ep9. Not my idea but i saw it in the comments and though it was both funny and on point:

From AvalonsCode -
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"For being a slightly edgy show it does have its wonderfully wholesome moments. I don't know how he's gonna do it but he is gonna figure out how to use ice cream to kill goblins."
  ;D
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 01 December 2018, 23:55:10
New "Lelouch of the Resurrection" Trailer is up via Funimation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeiBsQkdUMM&t=0s

Looks interesting

Immediately interested! When I heard they were doing a sequel, I was worried that they were going to have Lelouch get off completely scot-free after the BS he pulled at the end of R2, but it's clear here that C.C. still has her code and that Lelouch, if & when he appears, will have to be brought back some other way/likely won't be the central focus! I'm very intriqued! Sasuga Goro Tanaguchi-kantoku!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Triptych on 02 December 2018, 02:53:37
Immediately interested! When I heard they were doing a sequel, I was worried that they were going to have Lelouch get off completely scot-free after the BS he pulled at the end of R2, but it's clear here that C.C. still has her code and that Lelouch, if & when he appears, will have to be brought back some other way/likely won't be the central focus! I'm very intriqued! Sasuga Goro Tanaguchi-kantoku!
Scott free? Didnt he die?

On a side note: Im really digging season 2 of Castlevania. Pity it only has 8 episodes.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: VhenRa on 02 December 2018, 03:01:59
Immediately interested! When I heard they were doing a sequel, I was worried that they were going to have Lelouch get off completely scot-free after the BS he pulled at the end of R2, but it's clear here that C.C. still has her code and that Lelouch, if & when he appears, will have to be brought back some other way/likely won't be the central focus! I'm very intriqued! Sasuga Goro Tanaguchi-kantoku!

One thing IIRC though, its based on the Code Geass movie compilations. Which changed a few things, some characters dying, some not dying, sorta things.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 02 December 2018, 09:30:03
Scott free? Didnt he die?

Yeah, but some said he didn't & I was worried that with a sequel they were going to eliminate that.

One thing IIRC though, its based on the Code Geass movie compilations. Which changed a few things, some characters dying, some not dying, sorta things.

That's fine. I'll get around to watching those eventually.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 02 December 2018, 14:23:32
Tell me when a goblin does something positive or sympathetic, won't you?
Guess what? (https://file-comic-99.anyacg.co/uploads/5b0f2930d78a8c4087577553/fe91bd42d509a7657d22558f6d5bb37b222a9a71_194093_728_1088.jpg)

The true main antagonists of The Lord of the Rings were corrupted & compromised men like Saruman, not Orcs or Sauron himself.
Guess what? (https://file-comic-99.anyacg.co/uploads/5bd1f7353532c3405bd88c64/715b0ee38274807121bd45cd45f34c9425f19365_215548_870_1305.jpg) Anime places that scene in different place and makes changes to it.

You think Goblin Slayer hasn't taken cues from Dungeons and Dragons?
He's too busy slaying goblins to play D&D or anything else for that matter ::)
I spoke too soon (https://file-comic-99.anyacg.co/uploads/5b0f295d93c49e408d35e60f/35389a9d052efa98ab9a64b6043453cb4f93c709_356867_870_1305.jpg) ::)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 02 December 2018, 14:39:43
Guess what? (https://file-comic-99.anyacg.co/uploads/5b0f2930d78a8c4087577553/fe91bd42d509a7657d22558f6d5bb37b222a9a71_194093_728_1088.jpg)

Not getting any context, sorry.

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Guess what? (https://file-comic-99.anyacg.co/uploads/5bd1f7353532c3405bd88c64/715b0ee38274807121bd45cd45f34c9425f19365_215548_870_1305.jpg) Anime places that scene in different place and makes changes to it.

I'm not seeing any LOTR parallels here, either, sorry. Kinda lost on what you're trying to show me here!  :-\
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 02 December 2018, 15:11:20
Speaking of Space Combat, Volume 6 of Space Battleship Yamato 2202 just released a clip from upcoming Volume 6 of the series. (https://yamatonerd2199.tumblr.com/post/180528934385/another-clip-from-chapter-6-courtesy-of) Don't bloody watch it if you don't want spoilers, though this is just combat in general nothing plot revealing.

I so want it,  i wish no-Funimation would update what they got posted. They only have up to episode 13.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 02 December 2018, 15:20:39
Not getting any context, sorry.
Yeaah, first thing I SHOULD have typed in that post is it's about Goblin Slayer. I overlooked it, sorry ::)
Page is from Goblin Slayer Side Story: Year One, prequel series to Goblin Slayer. Goblin in the page says he saved the kid. Good deed that, isn't it? He (the goblin teacher) appears in anime too in flashback scenes.

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So Goblin Slayer in his childhood was saved by a goblin, and that goblin trained him to slay goblins. You didn't see that coming, did you? I sure didn't.
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I'm not seeing any LOTR parallels here, either, sorry. Kinda lost on what you're trying to show me here!  :-\
In that page appears a corrupt & compromised man, mastermind behind the local goblin outbreak. Anime replaces him with some skeleton priest performing sacrifice ritual. Neither gets much of screen time.

Goblin Slayer has its focus in protagonist, his party, and their lives which has much more to it besides slaying goblins.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 02 December 2018, 15:42:05
So Goblin Slayer in his childhood was saved by a goblin, and that goblin trained him to slay goblins. You didn't see that coming, did you? I sure didn't.

Vaguely interesting. I'd definitely want to know more about that goblin, & what his angle was.

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In that page appears a corrupt & compromised man, mastermind behind the local goblin outbreak.

Oh, wow. He was so ugly in that one image I mistook him for a goblin himself!  ;D
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Post by: Matti on 02 December 2018, 16:56:49
Some pages back there is mentioned a magic scroll used in Goblin Slayer which derailed to discussion about spells and RPG rules. When it comes to Goblin Slayer, magic scrolls are rare and valuable lostech which aren't made anymore. Goblin Slayer got teleportation scroll to his hands and he wanted to get use of it to kill goblins. It isn't about having the most powerful or the most cost effective stuff, but making the best use of what is available and at hand. This should be obvious to those BattleTech and MechWarrior players who have played campaigns with limited resources, salvage, and repair rules: I don't have spare AC/10 to replace broken one in my CN9-A, I can't convert 'Mech to CN9-AL, so should I install AC/5 and maybe second LRM 10?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 02 December 2018, 19:56:16
Yeaah, first thing I SHOULD have typed in that post is it's about Goblin Slayer. I overlooked it, sorry ::)
Page is from Goblin Slayer Side Story: Year One, prequel series to Goblin Slayer. Goblin in the page says he saved the kid. Good deed that, isn't it? He (the goblin teacher) appears in anime too in flashback scenes.

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So Goblin Slayer in his childhood was saved by a goblin, and that goblin trained him to slay goblins. You didn't see that coming, did you? I sure didn't.
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In that page appears a corrupt & compromised man, mastermind behind the local goblin outbreak. Anime replaces him with some skeleton priest performing sacrifice ritual. Neither gets much of screen time.

Goblin Slayer has its focus in protagonist, his party, and their lives which has much more to it besides slaying goblins.
I thought he was a halfling, an old halfling rogue/thief. Actually now that I looked at the flashback scene, he look more of a ratfolk/wererat than anything, Anime version at least.
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Post by: Top Sergeant on 02 December 2018, 20:08:27
Yeaah, first thing I SHOULD have typed in that post is it's about Goblin Slayer. I overlooked it, sorry ::)
Page is from Goblin Slayer Side Story: Year One, prequel series to Goblin Slayer. Goblin in the page says he saved the kid. Good deed that, isn't it? He (the goblin teacher) appears in anime too in flashback scenes.

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So Goblin Slayer in his childhood was saved by a goblin, and that goblin trained him to slay goblins. You didn't see that coming, did you? I sure didn't.
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In that page appears a corrupt & compromised man, mastermind behind the local goblin outbreak. Anime replaces him with some skeleton priest performing sacrifice ritual. Neither gets much of screen time.

Goblin Slayer has its focus in protagonist, his party, and their lives which has much more to it besides slaying goblins.

That was not a goblin who saved and trained goblin slayer. It is an old Rhea (halfling). I had the same assumption at first because of the similar appearance.
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Post by: Daemion on 02 December 2018, 22:51:33
Quick Question - Finished Overlord III.  How far along is the manga compared to the anime? Just curious if there might be more in the future.

Thanks.

Thanks for reminding me of Castlevania.  Watched Season One.  Should work on the next bit.
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Post by: Daemion on 02 December 2018, 23:21:02
Madoka Magica: It's serieses like this which get the creative juices going.  Having a mental conversation with a made up character is part of how many of my fanfic ideas get started.  Still, is it just me, or did the witches simply change form at the end?

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Post by: Matti on 03 December 2018, 03:25:47
That was not a goblin who saved and trained goblin slayer. It is an old Rhea (halfling). I had the same assumption at first because of the similar appearance.
My bad then. Not as bad as MadCapellan mistaking an uglu man for a goblin ;D
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Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 03 December 2018, 07:48:37
Quick Question - Finished Overlord III.  How far along is the manga compared to the anime? Just curious if there might be more in the future.

Thanks.

Thanks for reminding me of Castlevania.  Watched Season One.  Should work on the next bit.
Light Novel is way ahead.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 03 December 2018, 07:49:21
My bad then. Not as bad as MadCapellan mistaking an uglu man for a goblin ;D
yea let's ignore my post that came before his  xp
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Post by: Charlie Tango on 06 December 2018, 00:13:17

Some management shuffling at Otter Media will minorly affect Crunchyroll and VRV.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/at-ts-otter-media-lays-10-percent-staff-restructuring-1166263
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 07 December 2018, 04:18:04
This that owns that which owns that which owns this is changing the name of all companies to....

The Umbrella Corp.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 07 December 2018, 07:55:27
Some management shuffling at Otter Media will minorly affect Crunchyroll and VRV.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/at-ts-otter-media-lays-10-percent-staff-restructuring-1166263
That's bad news. Crunchyroll is likely going to lose more its identity it has already lost. I guess time will tell how long they will last if overlord company starts needd save money and downsize itself into nothing.
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Post by: Charlie Tango on 07 December 2018, 12:20:51
That's bad news. Crunchyroll is likely going to lose more its identity it has already lost. I guess time will tell how long they will last if overlord company starts needd save money and downsize itself into nothing.

well combining the sales staff of Crunchyroll  and Rooster Teeth is likely costing a few jobs, but they are both streaming services so from a business perspective it makes some sense instead of having them working at cross purposes or both trying to work the same clients. 

Crunchyroll is moving into content beyond just anime, and these brands already have the experience in those areas.  Hopefully this is just Otter getting their ducks in a row to keep Crunchyroll moving forward.
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Post by: Wrangler on 07 December 2018, 16:18:58
well combining the sales staff of Crunchyroll  and Rooster Teeth is likely costing a few jobs, but they are both streaming services so from a business perspective it makes some sense instead of having them working at cross purposes or both trying to work the same clients. 

Crunchyroll is moving into content beyond just anime, and these brands already have the experience in those areas.  Hopefully this is just Otter getting their ducks in a row to keep Crunchyroll moving forward.
Aren't the losing providers of content though? Some of them like Funimation are taking stab on their own as a provider. That going be a challenge for them. They aren't doing spectacular job supporting their manga providing service as of late.
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Post by: Matti on 08 December 2018, 14:58:25
I'll bet you that the Farm sequence has not been cut, but that it will come at the end of the current water town arc.
Oh frak, you're right! Goblin footprints at end of episode #10! It's gonna crash in the fan! Again!!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 10 December 2018, 09:10:42
Aren't the losing providers of content though? Some of them like Funimation are taking stab on their own as a provider. That going be a challenge for them. They aren't doing spectacular job supporting their manga providing service as of late.


Funimation is tying up with Hulu, which is trying to play keep-up with Netflix.

https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/hulu-funimation-anime-japanese-series-1203079274/
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Post by: kato on 11 December 2018, 14:27:37
Once again, since the season is almost over: Next season - as usual - looks rather bleak.

Personally only got three picks - Go-Toubon no Hanayome and Domestic na Kanojo as romcom mangas i've read (and they're awesome) as well as Rage of Bahamut - Manaria Friends (... if it actually does come out in January, i have my doubts).
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 11 December 2018, 14:55:46
Given how awful Rage of Bahamut: Virgin Soul was I'm definitely giving Manaria Friends a pass.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 11 December 2018, 15:42:22
Eh, Virgin Soul wasn't that bad.

Besides, it's not like you have much alternative next season in anything remotely fantasy genre. Unless you want to watch Shield Hero ...
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 11 December 2018, 18:37:19
Yes it was.  It started out okay, but the allegedly important events got sidelined far too much to focus on the romantic plot tumor between Nina Charoice.  And all of Charoice was let off the hook for all the wars he started, the way he enslaved and massacred people, and all the people he got killed due to prematurely awakening Bahamut without evacuating the region first.  But hey, we're supposed to be happy that he and Nina get to be together in the end, completely ignoring all the trauma everyone else went through (in large part as a direct result of his actions) and the fact that they failed to permanently kill Bahamut anyway, which means that everything that happened as part of the plan to kill him was pointless.
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Post by: Bedwyr on 11 December 2018, 21:10:14
I just watched my first two episodes of 0083. Not a bad story so far. I like that they set things up with a nuke/chase plot like Broken Arrow.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Foxx Ital on 12 December 2018, 00:51:54
I just watched my first two episodes of 0083. Not a bad story so far. I like that they set things up with a nuke/chase plot like Broken Arrow.

 I like the treatment they gave to older suits in the show. May have to research it.
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Post by: Matti on 12 December 2018, 11:46:31
Domestic na Kanojo
:o
Domestic Girlfriend gets an anime!!? This is first I hear of it! Squee! Now to read rest of the manga (Kindle version)...
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Post by: kato on 12 December 2018, 12:24:21

Official trailer for Domestic na Kanojo anime (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm_1Nuf5cD4).

Go-Toubun no Hanayome surprisingly doesn't have any official video trailer at all, which is at least... slightly unusual.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 13 December 2018, 08:11:34
What are you guys thinking so far what we've seen of Unicorn's sequel, Gundam NT?  It looks more highly political than previous series.  Frankly, looks like finding the "box" seem to have not done much change the situation for everyone. 
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 13 December 2018, 10:31:04
Given how awful Rage of Bahamut: Virgin Soul was I'm definitely giving Manaria Friends a pass.
For what it's worth, the two are not related besides being in the same universe. Manaria Friends is being done directly by Cygames, while Virgin Soul was made by MAPPA. Has a completely different writer and director.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 13 December 2018, 14:02:18
What are you guys thinking so far what we've seen of Unicorn's sequel, Gundam NT?  It looks more highly political than previous series.  Frankly, looks like finding the "box" seem to have not done much change the situation for everyone.

The fallout of Unicorn was unlikely to drastically change things, particularly with Hathaway's Flash now in the official pipeline - LaPlace's Box gave hope & ideals, not an immediate resolution. I'm loolong forward to it but not looking to be drastically spoiled until I can watch the whole thing.
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Post by: Matti on 13 December 2018, 16:54:05
LaPlace's Box gave hope & ideals, not an immediate resolution.
Haven't watched Unicorn (yet). But is that Box something equal to Gray Death Helm memory core? That didn't gave immediate resolution right away either: Draconis Combine didn't get it until it was convenient for certain Red Duke.

What comes to Unicorn, is it OVA or TV series, or does both exist? Crunchyroll has got MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM UNICORN RE:0096 (why is it all capitalized?) available for me with 22 episodes. Should I go for it? Should I watch something else first, like Char's Counterattack maybe?
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Post by: Tymers Realm on 13 December 2018, 17:07:13
Haven't watched Unicorn (yet). But is that Box something equal to Gray Death Helm memory core? That didn't gave immediate resolution right away either: Draconis Combine didn't get it until it was convenient for certain Red Duke.

What comes to Unicorn, is it OVA or TV series, or does both exist? Crunchyroll has got MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM UNICORN RE:0096 (why is it all capitalized?) available for me with 22 episodes. Should I go for it? Should I watch something else first, like Char's Counterattack maybe?

It's both, but the Re:0096 version is the TV Series, much like what's gonna happen to The Origin OVAs next year. I believe Gundam.Info's YouTube channel has both the Sub and Dub still available as of this posting.

As to what LaPlace's Box is exactly? It's complicated and delves into a lot of the political and cultural mess that forms the Universal Century.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 13 December 2018, 17:20:35
What Tymers said. The OVA was the original anime adaptation of Unicorn, that was then edited for broadcast as Re:0096. As for "where should I start with UC Gundam", that very much depends on your tolerance for older animation. I highly recommend the original film trilogy for the story, but if you aren't dedicated to the characters & setting & just want to watch mecha fights, 08th MS Team is a much better entry point.  Char's Counterattack is gorgeous & brilliant, but also kind of meaningless if you haven't watched the original or Zeta......
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Post by: Bedwyr on 13 December 2018, 19:39:20
What Tymers said. The OVA was the original anime adaptation of Unicorn, that was then edited for broadcast as Re:0096. As for "where should I start with UC Gundam", that very much depends on your tolerance for older animation. I highly recommend the original film trilogy for the story, but if you aren't dedicated to the characters & setting & just want to watch mecha fights, 08th MS Team is a much better entry point.  Char's Counterattack is gorgeous & brilliant, but also kind of meaningless if you haven't watched the original or Zeta......

I'm getting into UC by reading the whole of Gundam Origins manga (gorgeous books) and then filling in from there. I like 0083 because of the cute 80s Top Gun subtexts and characters. I'll see from there whether I want to keep going in chronological order.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Bedwyr on 13 December 2018, 19:45:44
It's both, but the Re:0096 version is the TV Series, much like what's gonna happen to The Origin OVAs next year. I believe Gundam.Info's YouTube channel has both the Sub and Dub still available as of this posting.

As to what LaPlace's Box is exactly? It's complicated and delves into a lot of the political and cultural mess that forms the Universal Century.

It's the original charter of the Federation that was a *lot* more open about the degree of autonomy spacers ought to be given and gave some kind of governing priority to newtypes, substantiating Deikun's original grievances.
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Post by: Top Sergeant on 13 December 2018, 20:42:50
I'm looking forward to the Quintessential Quintuplets next season.

As for this season Bunny Girl Senpai just keeps delivering excellent shows.  8)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 13 December 2018, 21:07:46
I came across this image and it looks to me like fan art. My question is if it is just something someone did because they liked the concept, or if it is based on an anime or manga, because if it is I'd really like to check that out.

The girl in the image I at first thought might be a Uhlan, but the helmet, jacket and cartridge belt are for an Imperial German infantryman, although the lance, saber and horse are correct. As I looked at the image more closely I noticed the belt buckle was not standard: it has the badge of the Prince of Wales on it. Interestingly enough that badge bears a motto which is in German: "Ich Dien" or "I Serve", which is a motto any samurai would agree with.

So you see why I am interested to find out, even by the slimmest chance, if this is related to any anime or manga.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 13 December 2018, 21:29:08
I thought it might be a Girls Frontline character, but alas, I couldn't find anyone who matches the design. I suspect it's wholly fanart.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Bedwyr on 13 December 2018, 22:05:37
Not anything from Chronicles of Valkyria?
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Post by: Top Sergeant on 13 December 2018, 22:12:47
I don't know, but that NEEDS to be an anime!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 14 December 2018, 10:22:09
From an image search, it looks to be Battlefield inspired fanart.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 14 December 2018, 11:12:38
Chihayafuru Season 3, two-cour, has been confirmed to be aired beginning April 2019, almost six years after Season 2 finished airing. Madhouse, like the previous two seasons.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 14 December 2018, 13:24:40
LOL! ;D

In the latest season of Voltron: Legendary Defender, Team Voltron gets the Somerset Strikers treatment!
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Post by: DarkSpade on 14 December 2018, 18:55:52
I've been sitting on the Manga for She and Her Cat for while now. For anyone who's seen the anime shorts or read the book, is it a sad ending?  Cause if the cat's gonna die, I think I'm going to drop the book off at half price books.


LOL! ;D

In the latest season of Voltron: Legendary Defender, Team Voltron gets the Somerset Strikers treatment!

We're shown the whole story was nothing but a TV show based on real events?  Or do they win a planet and not its people?
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 14 December 2018, 20:03:34
The first episode has Pidge watching the original cartoon, which is an in-universe show about their adventures (and complaining about how that Pidge sounds).

Don't know about the second option, but it's possible.
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Post by: Wrangler on 14 December 2018, 22:06:49
Speaking of live Anime movies....Nick Larson aka City Hunter (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6nm3BYXeY0) (Nick Larson name of it when it was aired in France.  Jackie Chan made his own version.)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 14 December 2018, 22:31:38
Speaking of live Anime movies....Nick Larson aka City Hunter (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6nm3BYXeY0) (Nick Larson name of it when it was aired in France.  Jackie Chan made his own version.)

Not Jackie Chan's City Hunter, but still probably better than anything Netflix would do!  ;D
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 15 December 2018, 08:50:22
Okay. I watched the Voltron's series finale. Season 8 came out yesterday. That....was a frakkin sucker punch to guts.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/5qfvKbtwBs0jS/giphy.gif)
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Post by: Bedwyr on 15 December 2018, 11:54:22
I'm only on season 5.
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Post by: Sharpnel on 16 December 2018, 03:02:42
I'm only on season 5.
Me. too. I should be able to binge it all out over the Holiday season
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 16 December 2018, 07:09:31
Speaking of live Anime movies....Nick Larson aka City Hunter (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6nm3BYXeY0) (Nick Larson name of it when it was aired in France.  Jackie Chan made his own version.)
I didn't hear him say "mokkori"
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Bedwyr on 16 December 2018, 11:47:36
Question: what's the availability of SEED and SEED Destiny either sub or dub? My Google fu turns up a 2017 announcement of a new HD dub and that's all I know. I'm inclined towards Blu-ray to just have the silly thing, but no objection to subscriptions.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 16 December 2018, 12:12:42
Question: what's the availability of SEED and SEED Destiny either sub or dub? My Google fu turns up a 2017 announcement of a new HD dub and that's all I know. I'm inclined towards Blu-ray to just have the silly thing, but no objection to subscriptions.

It's available on Crunchyroll.

Sadly, I don't believe SEED has been re-released on disk in English since Bandai shut down their Western branch. The bad reputation of Destiny & the wide availability of DVD singles at various retailers are likely behind the decision to delay it in favor of releasing other Gundam properties, but I'm sure Nozomi Entertainment will put it out eventually.
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Post by: Tymers Realm on 16 December 2018, 12:46:15
Question: what's the availability of SEED and SEED Destiny either sub or dub? My Google fu turns up a 2017 announcement of a new HD dub and that's all I know. I'm inclined towards Blu-ray to just have the silly thing, but no objection to subscriptions.

As of this post, the Remaster Sub of SEED (Playlist Link (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJV1h9xQ7Hx89jH49IgnVuKyuRNTj11PK)) and SEED Destiny (Playlist Link (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJV1h9xQ7Hx83FrF1OQrq5tFiRXeA1wAT)) are up for view on Gundam.Info's YouTube Channel. Granted there are some baked in Gunpla ads in the vids, but that's a small price.

I imagine once the new dub (Boo, Hiss...) for SEED/SEED Destiny is done, we'll get word of a physical release.
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Post by: VhenRa on 17 December 2018, 09:05:53
Yeah, they announced the new sub, but thats as far as its gotten.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 17 December 2018, 11:30:34
Okay. I watched the Voltron's series finale. Season 8 came out yesterday. That....was a frakkin sucker punch to guts.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/5qfvKbtwBs0jS/giphy.gif)

I was unsatisfied with that ending.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 17 December 2018, 13:37:36
I was unsatisfied with that ending.
you got it on the nose. I never said how it was, only that it was a freaking punch to the guts.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 17 December 2018, 16:21:24
Well, that alone was enough to let me know I wasn't going to like it.
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Post by: Daemion on 18 December 2018, 17:19:13
It's available on Crunchyroll.

Really? I'm going to have to do some digging. I wanted to watch SEED again.  I have SEED/Destiny on DvD.  Oddly enough, I actually liked the opening and closing songs for that show. 

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Post by: Tymers Realm on 18 December 2018, 17:22:33
I had started to watch the SEED remaster a couple of times. The 1st OP isn't altered too much. I can't say about the others though.
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Post by: Daemion on 19 December 2018, 23:29:17
I will admit that the ending for the full SEED Destiny felt rushed and incoherent.  I watched the OVA treatment for the third act and was much more satisfied with that result. So, my recommendation for SEED Destiny is to skip the last two episodes for the last movie. It works a lot better.

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 19 December 2018, 23:50:14
SEED Destiny, to me at least, is a bit of a train wreak after the Junius Seven drop. What starts out as a inverse of SEED's opening arc, is just more of a replay the last 15 eps of SEED spread over at least double that length.

Now don't get me wrong, SEED Destiny has some cool stuff and poses some interesting questions. The problem is we also get Athrun going through another crisis of self-doubt and the pilot who the overall plot starts around just gets shuffled to Kira's main opponent. There's a few other things I'd like to mention, but that starts getting into Rule 4 territory...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 20 December 2018, 10:48:47
Not Jackie Chan's City Hunter, but still probably better than anything Netflix would do!  ;D
How about a completely NEW City Hunter anime series?!?!?!?
ANN Reported, it includes a trailer. (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-12-12/new-city-hunter-anime-film-reveals-title-new-trailer-additional-cast/.140712)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 20 December 2018, 13:10:29
How about a completely NEW City Hunter anime series?!?!?!?
ANN Reported, it includes a trailer. (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-12-12/new-city-hunter-anime-film-reveals-title-new-trailer-additional-cast/.140712)

It's a movie, actually, but it's all good!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 20 December 2018, 16:37:23
There scifi based Anime coming next year, but not immediately though. Ex-ARM.  Its like a crime /cyborg/cyberpunk premise.  ANN posted the story. (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-12-18/ex-arm-science-fiction-manga-gets-tv-anime/.140981) Its based on a Manga.

In way, it reminds me of Appleseed in vague way.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: VhenRa on 21 December 2018, 00:45:32
Getting kinda depressed. Doesn't look like I'll be able to complete my collection of Gundam Iron Blooded Orphans on Bluray. Season two came out in Australia two months ago... usually stuff hits NZ the next month from Madman... nothing at all about it on NZ site...
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Post by: MadCapellan on 21 December 2018, 07:33:45
Is NZ on a different format or region than Australia? Can't you just import it?
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Post by: VhenRa on 21 December 2018, 08:01:54
Is NZ on a different format or region than Australia? Can't you just import it?

Its usually a sign it got refused classification.

I asked someone from madman from a previous series that had something similar happen, a year or two ago and they outright stated so.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 21 December 2018, 10:17:56
Netflix just put up Aggretsuke: We Wish You A Metal Christmas

I need to watch it tonight.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 21 December 2018, 10:22:26
Its usually a sign it got refused classification.

GG Kudelia et al. God bless the US of A, I guess!  :(
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 23 December 2018, 23:51:24
SEED Destiny, to me at least, is a bit of a train wreak after the Junius Seven drop. What starts out as a inverse of SEED's opening arc, is just more of a replay the last 15 eps of SEED spread over at least double that length.

Now don't get me wrong, SEED Destiny has some cool stuff and poses some interesting questions. The problem is we also get Athrun going through another crisis of self-doubt and the pilot who the overall plot starts around just gets shuffled to Kira's main opponent. There's a few other things I'd like to mention, but that starts getting into Rule 4 territory...

Well, I was actually hoping that Kira's death would stick, and Athrun would take his place, getting his ass in gear after he knew Kira was gone.  But, it didn't happen. There was a lot of interesting potential there if they went that way.

Now, side note - dirty humor:  When Athrun and the rebel blonde are stranded on the island together, did anyone else think 'she has crabs' when the crab jumped out of her hair onto Athrun's arm? I couldn't help thinking it, and pointing it out to my sister's boyfriend, who was watching it with me at the time. He laughed.

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 23 December 2018, 23:56:18
I was unsatisfied with that ending.

This just goes to show how easy I am to please.  I was actually okay with the ending.  Yeah, I noticed they had to put something special in the end.  But, it wasn't enough to really detract from my experience. (Not quite the same thing as what happened with the Last Jedi or ST : D.  But, that's all I'll say there.)

Heck, I even found the new She-Ra tolerable.  But, I can be classified as a Bronie, because I have inhaled the My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic show. Still have yet to see the new movie, which I expect I'll have to buy on DvD.

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 24 December 2018, 00:34:16
Argevollen - I'm watching it through, and while I like that the guy who gets in is military, he's still a rookie.

I really like the mecha for this one, but it is taking the turn for the typical and I'm 5 or 6 eps in.  I'd like to point out that 55 km/h is 3 walk / 5 run movement profile in BattleTech.  So, the Argie might be moving a 6 or 7 run, with the longer legs and faster pump rate. But, the pump rates for a 7 or 8 run in BT are actually track-star level, so I have my doubts it can qualify for a 5/8.

I see we're getting the typical 'Captain' treatment.  If you haven't read the book, I suggest you do. It may be dated, but that style of silent but gifted leader has almost become a trope.

And, the brass seems incompetent, or highly focused on self-interest.  But, it may be a little too early to properly judge.

And, of course, the names.  Makes me wondering if they're trying to do a WW1 analogue with Mr. Richtoffen.   In fact, I was wondering where the air-support was.  Hope they explain that one. 

Not bad.  It's still got my interest, but the falling back on stuff that is pretty identifiable in a lot of mecha anime, especially Gundam, leaves me feeling a little frustrated.

I'll watch it through, but it really reinforces some desires behind what I've been wanting to see in mecha anime. Or, a show involving giant piloted war bots in general.

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 24 December 2018, 00:35:54

Here're some things I've been tossing around at the back of my mind that I'd like to see in a Mecha anime:

1) The Special Mecha gets piloted by a pro who's been at it a while.
       - I'd really like it if the pilot was actually likable, too.
2) The Special Mecha actually is the faceless villain, and it takes a whole team and the series to confront it and take it down.
       - alternately, the team eventually corners it, and they get to team up with the pilot to fight something even more diabolical.
3) I'm tired of a singular prototype being the only reason the war takes a turn.  I wouldn't mind seeing prototypes made to fight prototypes.  Say, improvements made to the clunky war bots that are the staple of the other army.
4) I'm actually really tired of clunky robots and very simplistic programming to begin with.  I'd love to see some adaptive guess-work by the control system that makes the Mecha jink and roll with shots to get glancing blows and other useless shots. (Sound familiar?  Probably not, as this is something in my head.)
5) Stop telling and start showing. Gundam is bad about being preachy regarding anti-war sentiments. Make a real war story and showcase the horrors of war, instead of preaching about it through a mouthpiece.
     - You could go so far as have a character on the good-guy side die (or otherwise be removed from the fight) each episode, Game of Thrones style, and see who makes it to the end.
6) I'd like to see something more of professional soldiers who aren't partly or fully psycho- or sociopathic.  They joined the fight knowing what they were getting into, and make no bones about it and don't PTSD and emo out after a bad situation.  They've been trained well, are good at what they do, and generally do it under fire. Usually, these people are fighting for something, and it's often very simple.

Now. I know that many anime have touched on this to some degree or other, though not all.

Knights of Sidonia and Gundam: Iron Blooded Orphans handles 1), though I don't care for the living weapon that is the Gundam main character.

We generally see special Mecha given to what amounts to Warlord style subbordinates that the hero or heroes have to fight.  But, I haven't really seen a singular enemy that wreaks havoc, and pulls out once an objective has been met, leaving the other side to wonder how they'll overcome it next time.

Aldnoah: Zero has the good-guys using the out-performed gear, but, the main leads are too unreadable for me, and the main 'good-guy' happens to stick with the trainer, making him special.  He also happens to be a genius, too.

3) and 4), somebody else will have to tackle.  I really haven't seen anything that meets that criteria.

Gate handled 6) well enough. But, I haven't seen it in a Mecha anime, just yet. I'd even say Attack on Titan does a decent job, too. But, again, no giant robots, even though we do get giants.

That leaves number 5, which a lot of shows have been getting better at.  They're just not completely there, yet, which comes down to writing and budget, I guess.

[Shrug]  I'm generally entertained, but I can't help thinking some of these things while watching some shows.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 24 December 2018, 00:44:33
About the only Gundam series that comes closest to handling 5) for you would be 08th MS Team, at least through ep 11.
While set in the late stages of the One Year War (the back half of the original MS Gundam), 08th MS Team focuses on a Lance equivalent unit doing operations in Southeast Asia. While the Drama really cranks up in the back half, 08th MS Team is a solid show with some rather decent action.

EDIT: Maybe the first 'series'/Movie of MS Gundam: Thunderbolt might fit as well...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 24 December 2018, 01:02:05
The reason the main good guy in Aldnoah: Zero sticks with a trainer mech is because the standard combat models have heavier armor but lower speed, and since the enemy's weapons are powerful enough that armor is useless against them the extra speed of the trainer actually gives it an advantage.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 24 December 2018, 03:51:06
The reason the main good guy in Aldnoah: Zero sticks with a trainer mech is because the standard combat models have heavier armor but lower speed, and since the enemy's weapons are powerful enough that armor is useless against them the extra speed of the trainer actually gives it an advantage.

Thanks for the reminder. It's been a while since I saw the show.  Regardless of the logic, he was the only one who really did that, thus making him in a special Mech.  Once his tactics proved effective, I'm surprised more trainers didn't get picked up.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 24 December 2018, 03:58:44
You'd think it would, given that their armor might as well have been made from stale cookies for all the good it did.  But it's far too common for the hero of a military mecha anime to be brilliant because all the commanders of their force are dumber than a sack of hammers.

One of the things I liked about 08TH MS Team was that it was one of the few where the hero was not driving a super-powered prototype.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 24 December 2018, 04:55:56
I actually watched the 8th MS Team.  I did enjoy it even after it got preachy. Still have fond memories of that and Stardust Memories. Hell, War in the Pocket is still my all-time favorites when it comes to Gundam. It didn't get preachy, and showed just what war did when it reached the home-front.

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 24 December 2018, 07:44:26
I actually watched the 8th MS Team.  I did enjoy it even after it got preachy. Still have fond memories of that and Stardust Memories. Hell, War in the Pocket is still my all-time favorites when it comes to Gundam. It didn't get preachy, and showed just what war did when it reached the home-front.
Agreed. Less preachy the better.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 24 December 2018, 13:37:23
Since we've been on the subject of mecha anime, Sunrise producer Naohiro Ogata has basically confirmed  that only Sunrise can still produce hand-drawn mecha anime (https://fast.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2018-12-22/sunrise-producer-were-the-only-studio-that-can-make-hand-drawn-robot-anime/.141134). That means that outside of Sunrise, it's just Satellite & a handful of smaller CG outfits able to produce mecha anime. Reading that, I immediately put Regalia: The Three Sacred Stars in for a rewatch.

Something of a hail-mary shot by Studio Actas to keep Super Robot anime relevant back in 2016, the hand-animated combat scenes are absolutely gorgeous, but the series bombed after the production schedule collapsed after episode 4 & had to be re-aired to substantially less fanfare the following season. Two years later Actas was bought out by none other than Sunrise, further cementing their control on the mecha anime market.

1) The Special Mecha gets piloted by a pro who's been at it a while.
       - I'd really like it if the pilot was actually likable, too.

The main mecha pilots in Code Geass were all professionals, the main character not really being a pilot. Nobody in that series is exactly likeable, though.
Not sure how Super Robot friendly you are, but Go from Godannar was a veteran professional pilot.

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3) I'm tired of a singular prototype being the only reason the war takes a turn.  I wouldn't mind seeing prototypes made to fight prototypes.  Say, improvements made to the clunky war bots that are the staple of the other army.

Nobody's mecha in Macross or Code Geass carry the day - victory comes via culture in the former & political machinations in the latter.

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5) Stop telling and start showing. Gundam is bad about being preachy regarding anti-war sentiments. Make a real war story and showcase the horrors of war, instead of preaching about it through a mouthpiece.

Gundam Thunderbolt says hi! There's been a number of other Gundam series that don't shy away from exposing the horrors of war - F91 & Origins spring to mind - you should be careful how far you take "Show, Don't Tell", however. The primary reason people found G no Reconguista so unintelligible was because nobody bothered explaining anything to the audience
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 24 December 2018, 15:49:56
Why Armored Trooper VOTOMS hasn't been mentioned by now? It ticks many of the raised points: experienced trained fighters, mass produced mecha, war is Hell, some PTSD but not too much of it...

Wait, PS... They're not invincible so never mind.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 24 December 2018, 16:13:27
As much it pains me, the generation of artist and writers who gave us such wonderful mecha drama / war stories in more realistic method and excellent art has pretty much have moved on.  Market doesn't seem to have much room for that stuff, except for Gundam, Yamato 2199-2202, and spurts of other things. 

I think video games essentially has sucked in those genres in there since people want to actually live those things vs watching them.  I disagree on my own behave, but everything i've observed is that most of new new hasn't done well.  Audience to support in way Japanese industry needs them to isn't there for it.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 25 December 2018, 13:05:15
Ah, yes. Godannar.  I liked that one.  Code Geass! Been too long.

And, yeah, I'll agree that some explanation is necessary for world-building, and scene-setting.

Votoms- I didn't get a chance to watch more than  what little I could find on video. 

Thunderbolt, I caught the second movie, so was a little disoriented without the character set-up of the first, which I should hunt down and watch.

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 25 December 2018, 17:14:56
Couple good ones:

(https://i.imgur.com/pZPDbEi.jpg)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 28 December 2018, 15:52:20
Been reading Konosuba light novels. #7 mostly through and just this evening I have been laughing my ass off. Darkness's father is deadly sick and Darkness & party comes for touching reunion and weeping. Then Aqua goes: "Sacred Dispel!" ;D
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Post by: Matti on 29 December 2018, 13:48:14
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Goblin Slayer will return
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Post by: Maingunnery on 29 December 2018, 13:54:01

Good.

This season developed quite nicely, I am looking forward to the next.
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Post by: Top Sergeant on 29 December 2018, 17:02:45
And another season wraps up for me.

Irozuku Sekai no Ashita kara was good. I liked the ending even though I think many fans have heartache over it. It was needed, I think, for Hitomi to mature and go on with her life.


Goblin Slayer was also quite enjoyable. Looking forward to its next season!


Golden Kamuy stayed strong.


Bunny Girl Senpai was very enjoyable! It was so nice to see a sane couple again. Mai Sakijurima is best girl of 2018 :)


For the year I think my favorite was A Place Further than the Universe. The other best gems / top shows were The Ancient Magus' Bride,  Goblin Slayer, Violet Evergarden and Hinamatsuri.

Very good from 2018: 3D Kanojo: Real Girl, Dragon Pilot Maso-tan, Love is Like After the Rain.

Good shows that I enjoyed: Grancrest Senki, Darling in the FrankXX up until about ep 17 or so, when the story arcs were trashed and they stuck in an entirely different plot. Blech.

As for Winter 2019 I am reading the manga and so I am very interested in watching the Quintessential Quintuplets (Gotoubun no Hanayome) and the second season for 3D Kanojo. I am also interested in seeing what Manaria Friends will be like.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 30 December 2018, 10:44:54
New magical girl anime incoming: Magical Girl Spec-Ops Asuka
Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3n76fmP9Og)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: DarkSpade on 30 December 2018, 12:30:30
New magical girl anime incoming: Magical Girl Spec-Ops Asuka
Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3n76fmP9Og)

I feel like writers across the anime industry are all slapping their foreheads and exclaiming, "how the hell did I not think of that!?"
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 30 December 2018, 12:54:07
That looks fun.
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Post by: Matti on 30 December 2018, 14:27:51
I feel like writers across the anime industry are all slapping their foreheads and exclaiming, "how the hell did I not think of that!?"
They may have done that already when first manga chapter of it came out in 2015 ::)


That looks fun.
Don't bet on it. I have checked bit of manga, and though it isn't as dark and depressing as Berserk and Goblin Slayer, it's like... Gunslinger Girl with magical girls and guns (and terrorists)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 30 December 2018, 14:49:39

Don't bet on it. I have checked bit of manga, and though it isn't as dark and depressing as Berserk and Goblin Slayer, it's like... Gunslinger Girl with magical girls and guns (and terrorists)
At least it's not Magical Girl Apocalypse.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 30 December 2018, 18:17:31
More or less completed Fall 2018 - best season of the year!

Toaru Majustsu no Index III is in the midst of the English Civil War, which is being handled relatively smoothly following the blink & you'll miss everything October 9th Battle Royale arc, & Rimuru Tempest is about to face off against the Orc Lord in Slime Datta Ken. Not going to lie, the haughty, high-spirited lizardmen are quickly becoming my favorite characters in the show!

Akanesasu Shojo seems to have been too old-fashioned for it's own good, it's supporting media rapidly-folding, but I found it rather enjoyable as a quirky anime Quantum Leap.

Sunrise's sci-fi-ish buddy cop anime Double Decker didn't get anywhere the attention it deserved - it hit all the right notes, the story was clear, the action never dragged, but never got a moment of hyoe from anyone, it seems.

Plenty if cute shows, but in terms of writing, Bunny Girl Senpai was the hands-down winner! Each of the character's arcs were unique & deftly handled. Release The Spyce was probably the runner up, with it's great mix of action & cuteness & still managing to surprise with some plot twists yet still deliver on a feel-good ending!

Irozuku Sekai no Ashita Kara pleasantly surprised me whn it revealed itself to be a reworked version of Glasslip, eliminating most of that series's really jarring, irrational character behavior & cleaning up the messaging. Pacing still dragged a bit, but compared to Glasslip the ending felt far more satisfactory!

Now if only Yagate Kimi ni Naru would get a second season after that abrupt non-ending!  ;D

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 31 December 2018, 10:35:49
It's been six months since i took break from anime.  Not quite on purpose, my ad blockers went bit too...heywired and also sites now have anti-adware videos.   I personally CAN'T trust adware to be safe nowadays.  I guess it just me.

Anyways, Stuff i want see and what i going try do watch. I am at least season bebind stuff i want watch, so at least i can bindge if i get my videos to play.

This past seasons

Coming Season - This is stuff i'm interested, but the briefs i'm getting may not do justice to it.


Some weird ones, i'm not sure i will look at.  Girly Air Force - aliens attack earth.  Human have created girls who can transform into the shapes of classic jets to fight the aliens.  They also can become cute girls, see's human male who wants to fly to be future of humanity.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: mdauben on 01 January 2019, 05:27:18
New magical girl anime incoming: Magical Girl Spec-Ops Asuka
Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3n76fmP9Og)
Speaking of magical girls I just recently finished watching ViVid Strike! Which I did not realize until I started it was a spin off of the Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha franchise.  Nothing ground breaking but a typical lyrical Nanoha plot where one girl has to beat the living heck out of another because friendship.  The main difference was that instead of magic wands these girls used mixed martial arts to convey their feelings. ;)
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Post by: Tymers Realm on 01 January 2019, 08:28:19
Well keep in mind Strike is actually a spin-off of a MGLN spin-off. Though I'm not sure the original ViVid series is available in the US legally.

I have to admit though, Strike's antagonist has one of the more screwed up backstories, this side of Vivio.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 03 January 2019, 14:49:51
Huh. I will have to give a lot of these a look, now that there's not much on Hulu or Netflix that catches my interest.

Still finishing Gundam 00.  One I've been wanting to see for some time.  In spite of all the failings of a General Gundam anime - this one feeling like a G-Wing retake.


Did finish Argevollen.  Again, I like the mix of Mecha, and that the stock units aren't complete knock-overs.  (They at least require a couple of rounds before going down with a stackpole explosion.  ;) )  Story had some interesting elements, but started turning typical Japanese near the end.  And, the motivations behind the 'final antagonist' and the hero were typically... unique? 

Overall, I don't regret the time spent, and that's a positive for me.  However, I don't have a strong inkling for a BT cross-over idea other than 'this is what a high-powered laser does!' moment.

I'm getting the impression that the Mechs in the show were generally supposed to be composed of Laminate armor reminiscent of what we have for Chobham and others, now.  Seeing how Wikipedia describes the general make-up, and the current history of tanks made with this armor, a rapid-fire cannon actually makes sense as a means of defeating the armor.  t takes multiple hits to shatter the ceramic plates under the protective steel layer.  Once done, they provide little resistance to other penetrators hitting that spot.  It makes the rotary 55mm of the GU-11 gun pod make sense for Macross.

However, I don't see a lot of that kind of grouping from the shots depicted in Argevollen. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen, since they're getting hail-storm pelted. 

[shrug]

I was kinda intrigued by the notion that this was a potential story borrowing elements of WWI and some of the early 1800 invasions/occupations by European powers of the Japanese mainland.  With the setting as futuristic as it is, would be neat to see why air-power wasn't a consideration. And, would have loved a little more of an exploration of the factions involved.

Is there a manga of this series?

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Post by: MadCapellan on 03 January 2019, 15:07:04
Still finishing Gundam 00.  One I've been wanting to see for some time.  In spite of all the failings of a General Gundam anime - this one feeling like a G-Wing retake.

Exactly why I never finished it!  ;D I hate Gundam Wing! I want to do it eventually, though!

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...and some of the early 1800 invasions/occupations by European powers of the Japanese mainland. 

The what now?  ???

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Is there a manga of this series?

Nope, it was an anime original. What you've seen is pretty much all there is.
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Post by: kato on 03 January 2019, 15:22:22
There used to be a game for it apparently back in 2014 - Assault Raven (did that ever go live?). Advertising video for that here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcPC3QZiMUU).
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Post by: Wrangler on 03 January 2019, 20:17:17
That's shame the game for Argevollen didn't happen. Though graphics looked bit...crude.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 03 January 2019, 20:35:05
The half-second of game graphics we got in that ad?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 03 January 2019, 21:39:17
The what now?  ???

Okay. Maybe I'm thinking of european occupation of mainland asia. Like how the French occupied and controlled vietnam for a long time, or the Brits did India and maybe parts of China. I'm not a real history buff, to be honest, but I vaguely remember some potential tug of war between the US and some other European powers in regard to trade with Japan.

This kinda strikes me as a thought exercise in what if a European had invaded Japan - but in a futuristic sci-fi setting that doesn't look like Japan.  I think this due to the continent in question looking a lot like a very limited or expanded Tokyo Bay.



Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 04 January 2019, 22:53:02
Still on the topic of mecha anime, Tatsunoko's 55th Anniversary Project - The Price of Smiles/Egao no Daika begain airing! So far, so good! The princess is cute, her clearly delineated male love interest seems alright, & the mecha action was pretty solid! The only real question still outstanding is the plot, since they apparently have been keeping the princess, & thus the audience, in the dark about the war so we won't see the actual front until next episode!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 06 January 2019, 14:50:51
YouTuber calling himself Gigguk introduces us to Anime in 2018, and oh boy what a ride it has been! He uses rather colourful language, so I refrain from linking to it.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 06 January 2019, 20:09:34
2018 was probably a year with the most anime I have liked in a long time, remarkably so as I didn't really care for any in the Summer season.

The Ancient Magus' Bride, Golden Kamuy, Violet Evergarden, Gun Gale Online, (most of) Darling in the FranXX, A Place Further Than the Universe, Love is Like After the Rain, Irozuku Sekai no Ashita kara, Goblin Slayer, Bunny Girl Senpai, Legend of Galactic Heroes: Die Neue These, Hinamatsuri, Gancrest Senki, and Hisone to Masotan. 14 shows that I found top notch all from the same year!

I would happily own any of these. I can't recall ever wanting so many anime all from the same year. I'm a long service veteran so I think that's why I want to rate Evergarden higher than Magus' Bride or Universe, but it is a close call. The first six I am absolutely going to buy when they become available here. With that in mind in order I think I would rank them:

Violet Evergarden
The Ancient Magus' Bride
A Place Further Than the Universe
Bunny Girl Senpai
Goblin Slayer
Hinamatsuri
Love is Like After the Rain
Irozuku Sekai
Golden Kamuy
Legend of Galactic Heroes
Gancrest Senki
Hisone to Masotan
Gun Gale Online
Darling in the FranXX (up to about ep 21, whereupon I just imagine the kids win and the old goons running earth just die in an explosion  ;D then everyone lives happily ever after )
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 06 January 2019, 21:37:37
At what point does Ancient Magnus's Bride pick up?  Because I tried the first few episodes and got bored.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 06 January 2019, 22:52:28
At what point does Ancient Magnus's Bride pick up?  Because I tried the first few episodes and got bored.

I did the same. It reminded me a lot of Mushishi, another series that I really appreciate the artistic vision for but which I had a hard time finding the motivation to continue with.....
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 06 January 2019, 23:02:40
I just got tired of Magnus being all "I'm going to take care of you and protect you from now on.  Now please walk blindly into this dangerous situation while I sit on the sidelines doing nothing."
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Post by: Wrangler on 07 January 2019, 08:51:01
Still on the topic of mecha anime, Tatsunoko's 55th Anniversary Project - The Price of Smiles/Egao no Daika begain airing! So far, so good! The princess is cute, her clearly delineated male love interest seems alright, & the mecha action was pretty solid! The only real question still outstanding is the plot, since they apparently have been keeping the princess, & thus the audience, in the dark about the war so we won't see the actual front until next episode!
Just saw first episode, it was enjoyable.  Feels like it could be long series, I hope it's not to predictable in the long run.  Certainly is setting itself to be have interesting twists in the long run.
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Post by: Foxx Ital on 07 January 2019, 23:57:55
Iron blood orphans is apparenrly getting a spinoff app.
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Post by: Istal_Devalis on 08 January 2019, 10:03:01
Iron blood orphans is apparenrly getting a spinoff app.
Set on Venus. which is even more of a hellhole then Mars was. :)
For what it's worth, I'm really digging the music, but the app thing...
Hopefully they just fully animate it later. Maybe as an OVA.
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Post by: Matti on 08 January 2019, 16:06:39
What is last year's anime we have watched? I've seen few. What about you? Bring it, the good, the bad, and the ugly! I have watched the anime with English subtitles, so I'll type titles in English (and I haven't memorized Japanese ones).

Devilman Crybaby started the year with a bang. I don't have a Netflix account, so I watched couple episodes (maybe 3) in my brother's house. I expect you to know about this already. I'm sure it has some qualities, but it's just not for me. Maybe it is visual style? I would likely watch it in anime club meetings alongside with others, but otherwise, nope.

Death March to the parallel world rhapsody is close to average isekai anime, whatever the average is. Male lead is anything but average: he even pursues serious relationship with a woman and visits brothels. Otherwise he is crouching merchant, hidden badass. Has video game vibes with skills, experience points, and the likes.

A place further than the universe is moe anime of the year! Maybe somebody would name Yurucamp for that, but I haven't seen it yet. Where is it again... Oh, it's named Laid-Back Camp in Crunchyroll and Amazon. Ehrm, got derailed here. So A place further than the universe is like a travel story from high school in Japan all the way to Antarctica. And it is awesome! I highly recommend this!

Uzamaid! is fun little comedy romp. It is about former JASDF pilot hired to be maid and caretaker of a girl. Some yuri vibes, but nothing serious (not even a kiss), though somebody claims otherwise. Fun comedy that made me honestly laugh.

Harukana Receive is about high school girls in swimwear playing beach ball. I'm not really into sports anime, but this looks okay. Has yuri element on it, but up to 6th episode, no kissing.

Citrus is yuri anime of the year. Step-sisters try to get along, and eventually they REALLY get along. Has some SERIOUS kissing. Highly recommended!

Revue Starlight is about class of students in music academy. MadCapellan has spoken highly of this, but I must admit I don't understand it. There are studies, practices, auditions, and ... what's with the auditions anyway? Those consist of students fighting eachother, and towards the end one disappears after last audition. Her friends go to police, policewoman ask where she was last seen, and friends go ???. Why don't they just tell they saw her in school's basement and ask the police to come over to investigate the place? I have a feeling that understanding that detail, I would understand much more of this anime. MadCapellan, can you tell me?

That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime is isekai anime of the year. Man dies, and next thing he gradually comes to understand is he has reborn as a slime. One badass slime who can take form of any creature it has eaten and make full use of their capabilities. Some good world building and characters on it too. Recommended.

Goblin Slayer
I bet you saw this coming! Hardcore fantasy based on role-playing games, NOT on folklore as somebody complains. I had read manga before anime was announced, and I have paid my respects to author and translators (I've got Kindle versions). Anime is about one man war against the most numerous and underestimated monsters, and war is Hell. Weapons and armour work as you would expect: armour defeats sword and dagger, but loses to pick. One detail even many live-action movies based on history get totally wrong.

Main character, Goblin Slayer, isn't almighty hero, but just badass normal with extensive knowledge to slay goblins in the most efficient and brutal ways. He has been compared to Batman and Doomguy, but I make comparison to Judge Dredd: both characters wear helmet with face covering visor at all times, are utterly dedicated to their sworn duty, and hold little interest for anything else. All those characters (Judge Dredd, Batman, Doomguy) are legendary, and Goblin Slayer is welcomed addition in their ranks.

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/422/846/c48.jpg)

Not to the weak of heart, but if you think you can handle it, then this is my most recommended anime of 2018.

There are many more anime from last year I want to watch. Right now I'm watching Harukana Receive. Bloom into you and Laid-back camp are on my list. I'll place an order for Violet Evergarden as soon as discs with English translation come available. What more is there from last year? Out with it, tell me!
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Post by: Wrangler on 08 January 2019, 16:43:50
Set on Venus. which is even more of a hellhole then Mars was. :)
For what it's worth, I'm really digging the music, but the app thing...
Hopefully they just fully animate it later. Maybe as an OVA.
It's odd choice of things. I suspect that their trying reach out to new audience, since i suspect that's where they be. Video game /mobile gaming land.  I hope for anime, but i think this where action type mech entertainment has to go get it's new people.
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Post by: Foxx Ital on 08 January 2019, 21:19:48
It's odd choice of things. I suspect that their trying reach out to new audience, since i suspect that's where they be. Video game /mobile gaming land.  I hope for anime, but i think this where action type mech entertainment has to go get it's new people.

 I'm gonna withhold judgement untill it comes out but will say it has got my interest. The fact almost the entire crew is back for it is a good thing.
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Post by: Top Sergeant on 08 January 2019, 22:06:45
An inhabited Venus reminds me of the heyday of Science Fiction, when authors such as Edgar Rice Burroughs and Robert Heinlein set stories there.
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Post by: kato on 08 January 2019, 23:14:00
The Gundam spin-off ("Uror-Hunt") takes place in an orbiting colony though, not on Venus itself - see animated official trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF7afHHfQA4). The habitat is a whole lot smaller than the UC colonies btw and applies the Post Disaster Era artificial gravity cop-out.

Well, it's Gundam, gotta have that. The Post Disaster Era hasn't had any Drops yet after all.



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Post by: Daemion on 08 January 2019, 23:19:23
Quick Question on the latest non-UC Gundams: I've just finished the first season of 00 (finally) and I noticed that the UN Mobile Suits near the end have the same style of lances that we see in Iron Blooded Orphans.

Are the two remotely connected in some fashion? Or is this a styling that just got picked up and played on for the new series?
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Post by: MadCapellan on 08 January 2019, 23:23:33
Are the two remotely connected in some fashion? Or is this a styling that just got picked up and played on for the new series?

Unless we're counting Tomino's wild "All Gundam eras precede Turn A's Correct Century in a cyclical history" suggestions, it is Bandai's official policy that they are unrelated.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 08 January 2019, 23:35:32
Revue Starlight is about class of students in music academy. MadCapellan has spoken highly of this, but I must admit I don't understand it. There are studies, practices, auditions, and ... what's with the auditions anyway? Those consist of students fighting eachother, and towards the end one disappears after last audition. Her friends go to police, policewoman ask where she was last seen, and friends go ???. Why don't they just tell they saw her in school's basement and ask the police to come over to investigate the place? I have a feeling that understanding that detail, I would understand much more of this anime. MadCapellan, can you tell me?

Revue Starlight's auditions are a meta-physical manifestation of the girls' personal struggles. When one becomes spiritually lost, a police officer cannot investigate & find you based on the last place you felt yourself. To put it plainly, the auditions are metaphorical duels, where the Stage Girls are defeated by the weakness of their character, but the system is destroyed by the pure love Karen has for Hikari. More deeply, I consider Revue Starlight a veiled Christian parable in which Karen as Christ absolves mankind (represented by both the Stage Girls in general and Hikari specidically) of their sins. If you're looking at the giraffe & all you see is a giraffe, then you're missing most of what Revue Starlight is all about!
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 09 January 2019, 08:15:17
An inhabited Venus reminds me of the heyday of Science Fiction, when authors such as Edgar Rice Burroughs and Robert Heinlein set stories there.

Or that old anime Venus Wars. Anyone see it or even remember it?? I had thought Big Wars initially but when I looked it up that one is set on Mars and not Venus.
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Post by: kato on 09 January 2019, 14:18:46
Tatsuki has done it. Kemurikusa.

(https://abload.de/img/irodorikqcro.jpg)

Just about as dark at the beginning as Kemono Friends was at the end. Even if it's older. And an original irodori work, first done in 2010-2012 as a 3-ep ONA. Animation work by Yaoyorozu too, so altogether this feels like just about the same thing. Even if this time they're not cutting corners pumping out 3DCG. Even if it's not the handdrawn Tatsuki-doujin style that he's been doing for it on Twitter, and there's notable switchups from the animated cutscenes posted there the last three months too. This thing has been in the making for a year, and it shows.

Amazon Prime, for those who want to check it. Because that's who's bankrolling it.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 10 January 2019, 17:26:30
Well, just watched the final Godzilla anime.

The people responsible for it have clearly been watching too much Evangelion.
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Post by: Istal_Devalis on 11 January 2019, 10:03:35
Girly AF 1: Ok, I recognize the planes, but what ships were those?
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Post by: Daemion on 11 January 2019, 11:08:20
Well, just watched the final Godzilla anime.

The people responsible for it have clearly been watching too much Evangelion.

The third one's finally up? Awesome!
Something for saturday!
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 11 January 2019, 11:10:51
Don't get your hopes too high.  It's a whole lot of metaphysical nonsense and very, very little actual kaiju fighting.

And the ending is a real letdown.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 11 January 2019, 11:18:06
Girly AF 1: Ok, I recognize the planes, but what ships were those?

They looked like China's Type 52C Destroyer to me, but I'm no expert. Surprised Japanese twitter didn't identify it yet, but I guess the Naval-ota aren't watching a show called Girly Air Force!  :D
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Post by: Matti on 11 January 2019, 11:20:05
So seriously, what last year's anime have you all watched? Please tell me about turds too if you have seen them.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 11 January 2019, 12:15:32
So seriously, what last year's anime have you all watched? Please tell me about turds too if you have seen them.

I posted my closing thoughts on Fall 2018 on December 30th. Is there a reason you can't just re-read this thread to see everyone's thoughts on 2018 anime? I know I posted my thoughts on most of what I watched....
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Post by: Tymers Realm on 11 January 2019, 12:37:57
Of what I followed last year...
Completed

Violet Evergarden - In all honesty, Violet Evergarden is one of the better dramas I've watched in a while. While it does have something of a uneven start and ending, just watching Violet's journey is enjoyable.

Goblin Slayer - Outside of the nonsense of ep 1's streaming handling, I thoroughly enjoyed Goblin Slayer. This is a good way to handle Dark Fantasy and keep it on a personal level, of sorts. And regardless of whatever additional animated stuff comes, I feel this single cour was just fine.

Started, but not completed
The following are 2018 series I started following, but haven't gotten to fully finishing. Most of that was due to not having the time to keep up. I hope to get to finishing them at some point.

Darling in the FranXX - Darling, through most of it's run, seemed to handle Mecha action and teenage growing up beats decently enough. Now I haven't seen the back 1/3 of the series yet (keep getting hung up on ep 18), but I do understand the narrative turns on it's head. I want to finish this series regardless.

Toji no Miko/Katana Maidens - I kind like the concept and the story through the first cour, at least. I got about a 1/3 through the second cour. I can see kinda where the narrative is going. This is another series I want to finish.

Cardcaptor Sakura - Clear Card Arc - CCS - CCA was something nice. It felt as if no time had past between the end of ToS and Clear Card. I got through the first cour and the second was a short one, but I do want to finish it.

Dragon Pilot/Hisone to Masotan - This was one of the more unique Anime series of the year for me. Interesting premise and the softer art design and more 'old school' character design made it stand out even more. I got through about ep 9 or 10, but even the closing arc seemed interesting.

Beatless - While uneven it the narrative, Beatless was posing some worth while questions. I managed to get through the 'zombie riot' part, but I at least want to finish the run.

There are a number of others I started, but I'm not sure I want to go back and finish: Kokkoku, the 2018 retelling of Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Record of Grancrest War, and Lupin III - Part V.
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Post by: Matti on 11 January 2019, 14:18:16
I posted my closing thoughts on Fall 2018 on December 30th.
Too short!
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Post by: Maingunnery on 11 January 2019, 14:22:10
Excluding the continuing shows, I sort shows in several categories:
1. I want to see it multiple times (might buy the mercendize/BlueRays).
2. Decent but a single watch was good enough.
3. Lets try to forget about this (not listed below because of NOPE).


Multiple watches
Darling in the FranXX - A story about the two main characters getting it on. Leans heavily on previous works, but has a very good ending.
Yuru Camp - Warm fuzzy slice of life
SAO Alternative: Gun Gale Online - It is SAO but replaces Kirito with a pink rabbit
Violet Evergarden - Amazing quality and sometimes it will roll a critical hit on the feels
Sora yori mo Tooi Basho - Cute girls doing an awesome thing together
Boku no Hero Academia S3 - The show now has really hit its stride, S4 will be in October 2019.

Single watch/decent
Full Metal Panic Invisible Victory - Too short and slow, did not reach a satisfactory conclusion.
Hisone to Masotan - It is nice to see something different for a change, but I feel no need to a rewatch.
Dragon Ball Super - It had some unexpected twists but was mostly filler for me.
Goblin Slayer - A decent D&D like Dark Fantasy anime, having the main character not be the local heroic focus was a nice change of pace.
Harukana Receive - Nice visuals with a very basic story.
Jashin-chan Dropkick - It gave me a couple of laughs, but nothing special.
Kokkoku - Nice semi-horror show, but a bit forgettable.
Hakumei to Mikochi - Cute slice of life, but forgettable.
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Post by: kato on 11 January 2019, 14:37:59
So seriously, what last year's anime have you all watched? Please tell me about turds too if you have seen them.
Last year? Oh boy.

By order of airing, for things i really watched in full and without skipping anything inbetween for getting bored - i.e. those i never dropped inbetween either:

--- Q1/2018 ---
Fate/Emiya-san Chi no Kyou no Gohan, Sora yori mo Tooi Basho, Overlord II, Ramen Daisuki Koizumi-san, Yuru Camp, Mitsuboshi Colors, Karakai Jouzo no Takagi-san, Death March kara Hajimaru Isekai Kyousoukyoku, Koi wa Ameagari no You ni, Dagashi Kashi 2, Nanatsu no Taizai: Imashime no Fukkatsu, Fate/Extra: Last Encore
--- Q2/2018 ---
Uma Musume: Pretty Derby, Akkun to Kanojo, Hinamatsuri, Megalo Box, Sword Art Online: Gun Gale Online, Shokugeki no Soma: San no Sara - Tootsuki Ressha Hen, Fumikiri Jikan, Last Period: Owarinaki Rasen no Monogatari, Hisone to Masotan, Isekai Izakaya: Koto Aitheria no Izakaya Nobu
--- Q3/2018 ---
Chio-chan no Tsuugakuro, Yama no Susume: Third Season , Isekai Maou to Shoukan Shoujo no Dorei Majutsu, Sunohara-sou no Kanrinin-san, Overlord III, High Score Girl, Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san
--- Q4/2018 ---
Akanesasu Shoujo, Seishun Buta Yarou wa Bunny Girl Senpai no Yume o Minai, Zombie Land Saga, Otona no Bouguya-san, Ore ga Suki na no wa Imouto Dakedo Imouto ja Nai

I've bolded those i would recommend without reservation. And yes, last season looks rather bleak in that regard. Those others "with reservation" above all have somewhat weak, tedious arcs somewhere here and there, focus on fan service or are too niche for mainstream (... on a second read through the list i can't really find any of that last category in there - maybe Last Period).

I also got through my third rewatch of Log Horizon (both seasons) this year.

Edit: Yagate Kimi ni Naru only not listed above for Q4 because i haven't watched all of it yet.
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Post by: Dies Irae on 11 January 2019, 20:40:24
I had a good year anime wise. Bolded titles are shows I recommend strongly. Strikethroughs are dropped show or just a poor series in general. Work got crazy towards the end of the year, so viewing time suffered.

Winter 18
Violet Evergarden - Took a middling light novel, ripped out the pointless supernatural elements, made it an excellent character drama.
Sora yori mo Tooi Basho - A cute girls doing cool things show which evolved into an emotional journey. Not my favorite show of the year, but a very strong entry.
Yuru Camp - Cute girls go camping. Incredibly chill. Strongly recommended as a relaxation centric slice-of-life.
Koi wa Ameagari no You ni - Started with a questionable premise (the relationship between a high school student and her 45-year old divorcee manager) and I only watched it as a joke about the male lead looking like Kiichi Goto. Becomes a character study into the lives of broken people who abandon their dreams. Handles it's subject matter with grace and tact.
Darling in the FranXX - Had potential. Stiffed the landing. The final arc was so awfully executed it utterly destroyed all the goodwill the series originally generated.
Grancrest Senki - I felt the show never got itself going after the premise of Japanese-style Western Medieval Fantasy fell apart. Dropped after 4 episodes.
Ramen Dasuki Koizumi-San - Food porn style show about ramen whose paper thin plot is an excuse to gorge on copious quantities of noodles. Fun.

Spring 18
Boku no Hero Academia 3 - Obligatory shonen action battler. Still a safe, solid entry and a fun love letter to the silver age of comics.
Wotaku ni Koi wa Muzukashii - A Geek romance drama loaded to the brim with references and shout-outs. The creator's intentional minimization of melodrama keeps plot fun and always moving while also serving as a celebration of the otaku lifestyle.
Persona 5 The Animation - Dropped at episode 5. Was better off just going back and replaying Persona.
Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu: Die Neue These - Kaikou - A heroic effort to re-frame LotGH for a modern attention span. Needed more time, but tried its best with what it had. Not bad.
Piano no Mori - A rushed adaptation of a music manga. Average and watchable, but pacing comes across as choppy. Absolutely beautiful classical music hides a lot of sins.
Hisone to Maso-tan - Loved it entirely for it's weirdness.
Juushinki Pandora - Somehow came across as bland despite its gonzo-weird starting premise. On the low side of watchable.
Uchuu Senkan Tiramisu - A gag manga adaptation which juxtaposes the absurdities of the day-to-day modern life of a hikkomori against a space opera mecha series. Laughed more than I should have.

Summer 2018
Hataraku Saibou - Adaptation of an educational manga about personified body processes. Entertainingly overacted by HanaKana.
Island - Meandered around way too much but gave out too little information too slowly to care about the growing mystery. Gave up after 3 episodes. Original visual novel supposedly much better.
Chio-Chan no Tsuugakuro - Adaptation of an absurdist comedy manga about a girl getting to school. Funny enough, but wasn't daring enough to go to the gonzo lengths it's premise allowed for. Good enough laughs, but wasn't the absolute car-wreck I was promised.
High Score Girl - For a video game nostalgia advertisement masquerading as anime, I was pleasantly surprised by the strength of the writing.
Back Street Girls: Gokudolls - A terrible terrible show about failed Yakuza being forced to become transgender idols. Probably animated using PowerPoint. Was actually better than it deserved to be. Probably a better waste of my time than Chio-Chan no Tsuugakuro.

Fall 2018
SSSS Gridman - Absolutely loved it. Ephemeral and nostalgic, yet tackles a weighty subject matter with sensitivity. Watchable as both an above average monster battler but has enough psychological teeth to drag along anyone who thinks too hard about things.
Gaikotsu Shotenin Honda-San - To anyone who has worked retail, this is 'RELATABLE' The Series.
Uchuu Senkan Tiramisu II - More of a good thing.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 11 January 2019, 22:13:44
Too short!

Man, I watch A LOT of anime!

Okay, here's everything I watched that aired in 2018:

Alice or Alice - ★★
The Ancient Magus's Bride - ★★★
Anima Yell - ★★★★
As Miss Beelzebub Likes - ★★★
Asobi Asobase - ★★★
Back Street Girls - ★★
Beatless - ★★★
Bloom Into You - ★★★★
Boarding School Juliet - ★★★
Card Captor Sakura Clear Card Arc - ★★★
Caligula - ★★★
A Certain Magical Index III - ★★★★
Chio-chan's School Road - ★★
Citrus - ★★★★
Classicaloid 2 - ★★★
Comic Girls - ★★★★
Conception - ★
Cutie Honey Universe - ★★
Dagashi Kashi 2 - ★★★
Darling In The FranXX - ★★
Death March to the Parallel World Rhapsody - ★
Double Decker: Doug & Kirill - ★★★★
Dragon Pilot: Hisone & Maso-tan - ★★
Food Wars: The Third Plate - ★★★★
Full Metal Panic Invisible Victory - ★★★★
The Girl in Twiight - ★★★
Hakumei & Mikochi - ★★
Hinamatsuri - ★★★★★
Iroduku: The World in Color - ★★★
Island - ★★
Jashin-chan Dropkick - 0 stars
Karakai Jyozu no Takagi-san - ★★
Laidback Camp - ★★★
The Legend of the Galactic Heroes: Die Neue These - ★★★★
Märchen Mädchen - ★
Mazinger Z Infinity - ★★★★
Ms. Vampire Who Lives in My Neighborhood - ★★★
Music Girls (Ongaku Shojo) - ★★
My Sister, My Writer - 0 stars
One Room 2 - ★★★★
Planet With - ★★★★
Pop Team Epic - ★★★
Rascal Does Not Dream of Bunny Girl Senpai - ★★★★
Real Girl - ★★★
Record of Grancrest War - ★★★★
Release The Spyce - ★★★★
Revue Starlight - ★★★★★
Shichisei no Subaru - ★★
Slow Start - ★★★★
SSSS.Gridman - ★★
SAO Alternative: Gun Gale Online - ★
That Time I Giot Reincarnated as a Slime - ★★★★
The Thousand Noble Musketeers - ★★
Ulysses: Joan of Arc & The Alchemist Knight - ★★
Uzamaid - ★★★
Violet Evergarden - ★★★
Wotakoi - ★★★★★

I hope that suits your needs, because there's no way I've got time to give each another in-depth review!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 11 January 2019, 23:48:49
Winter
The Ancient Magus' Bride- Beautifully made and a well told story
Sora yori mo Tooi Basho - A coming of age / growing into maturity story with extremely well done direction and camera work. I highly recommend this anime to anyone. Episode 12 will be an emotional pile driver.
Darling in the FranXX - Its great up through most of episode 21 and then someone seems to have spliced in a completely different script using the same characters.
Grancrest Senki - I liked it, it was OK grand adventure with overpowered characters
Koi wa Ameagari no You ni - An unusual and well handled romance between a teenager and an adult
Violet Evergarden - Gorgeous anime. It really resonated with me for two reasons: 1) I myself am a veteran 2) I work in Army Casualty. The show had a grand arc made up from the many mini-arcs comprising the individual episodes.

Spring
Hinamatsuri - Fantastic show. Two of the supporting characters really stole the show away from the MC.
Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu: Die Neue These -A space opera that has some good characters
3D Kanojo: Real Girl - A bit of a cut above the average high school romance. Watching the second season now.
Hisone to Maso-tan- Some pretty hilarious scenes, and I don't think I will ever forget how they "board" their dragons to get to the cockpit.
Sword Art Online Alternative: Gun Gale Online  Best SAO out there, probably because it dumped all previous characters and plot lines and did something interesting instead
Golden Kamuy (Season 2 aired in the Fall 2018) - Set in Meiji Japan after the Russo-Japanese War: Adventure, action, skullduggery and cooking all rolled into one :)

Summer
Hataraku Saibou - The only summer show I really stayed with. I adore the platelets  8)

Fall
Irozuku Sekai no Ashita kara - A very beautifully animated romance story of a girl out of her own time. Ending was satisfying.
Goblin Slayer - The first episode (yes THAT scene) set the tone not for the series, but set the tone for the goblins, clearly conveying the proper sense of threat that they pose. I very much enjoyed this paper & pencil Fantasy RPG influenced anime. And the little homages to Lord of the Rings as well :)
Seishun Buta Yarou wa Bunny Girl Senpai no Yume wo Minai  -  One of the most sane couples in anime with a relationship that just pulls you right in. Entertaining, engaging and fun.
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Post by: Matti on 12 January 2019, 01:08:05
Thank you for your responses! I'll take my time reading them through.

As I was looking through anime on Amazon sites, I noticed there aren't many from last year. FMP Invisible Victory is available, great! But Violet Evergarden is available only in German and not in English. What is going on? ???

One older anime I also want to buy is Heavy Object. It seems to have been divided into 2 parts titled Heavy Object: Season One, Part One and *Part Two. Length's are 600 minutes and 500 min respectively. According to Wikipedia anime has 24 episodes. How long is each episode? 50 minutes?
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Post by: Maingunnery on 12 January 2019, 02:34:10
One older anime I also want to buy is Heavy Object. It seems to have been divided into 2 parts titled Heavy Object: Season One, Part One and *Part Two. Length's are 600 minutes and 500 min respectively. According to Wikipedia anime has 24 episodes. How long is each episode? 50 minutes?
They likely include the bonus material in the length.
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Post by: kato on 12 January 2019, 04:54:46
But Violet Evergarden is available only in German and not in English. What is going on? ???
Netflix geoblocking is going on.
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Post by: Top Sergeant on 12 January 2019, 22:31:27
I was trying to kill a little time this afternoon and just clicked on Ep 1 of Asuka and almost clicked off after a few minutes, but I am glad I didn't.

I swear I never thought I'd be saying I am looking forward to the next episode of the Magical Girl anime but here I am doing just that.

A magical girl with PTSD. And she severs the feet off a villain to both stop him and immobilize him until the police arrive. Not what I expected from a Magical Girl anime.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 13 January 2019, 15:24:00
Well, episode 2 of Egao no Daika just brought the reals down on everybody hard! I don't think a mecha series has done me like this since Gai Daigoji died in Martian Successor Nadesico! The character animation may not always be amazing, but the mecha action is good & the plot looks like it's going to be a wild ride! I'm buckling myself in!
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Post by: Tymers Realm on 13 January 2019, 16:15:17
Yea, that pre-credits segment of Price of Smiles was a game changer. Now the Princess' first showing in the OP is really gonna take on more meaning. Plus, we finally get an appearance of the other sides' protagonist!
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 13 January 2019, 19:14:58
Need to get a good list of the worst anime you guys have seen, namely recent (last 4-5 years) stuff.  A lot of old infamous stuff I've got covered (Musashi Gundoh, Astro Plan, California Crisis, etc) but I've only been dipping my toes in the fandom for the last few years and I've missed a lot of stuff.  Bad animation, idiot plots, terrible piles of cliches, bring it on.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 13 January 2019, 19:37:58
You've got World Break on that list, right?
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Post by: kato on 13 January 2019, 19:49:45
Last 4-5?

I'd nominate Minarai Diva.

Minarai Diva back in 2014 consisted of a - literal - live streamed performance animated with MikuMikuDance and motion capture of the seiyuu. It might have even worked out. If they rehearsed the motion capture system. And invested a bit more into the servers creating the animation and streaming it. And if the seiyuu had had any sort of script or direction at all. They basically tried to make a live version of Tesagure! Bukatsu-mono, a MMD-animated claimed-adlib scripted anime running since 2013. The way they did it though it turned out a real mess. That they managed to keep up for six episodes.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 13 January 2019, 20:04:11
You've got World Break on that list, right?
I do now!  Also episodes 1-7 of Haruhi Suzumiya's Endless Eight arc.
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Post by: Sharpnel on 14 January 2019, 03:37:04
I do now!  Also episodes 1-7 of Haruhi Suzumiya's Endless Eight arc.
I hated watching that arc. For me it was just a ridiculous waste of animation. I understand why it was done, but I still don't have to like it.
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Post by: Matti on 14 January 2019, 13:20:00
Need to get a good list of the worst anime you guys have seen, namely recent (last 4-5 years) stuff.  A lot of old infamous stuff I've got covered (Musashi Gundoh, Astro Plan, California Crisis, etc) but I've only been dipping my toes in the fandom for the last few years and I've missed a lot of stuff.  Bad animation, idiot plots, terrible piles of cliches, bring it on.
Märchen Mädchen (Maerchen Maedchen). I watched first episode by kato's recommendation and decided to wait until season gets done so I don't need to wait a week for next episode. Then I read animation quality took a nose dive, last episodes got delayed or cancelled, and I didn't get back to it. YouTube has some videos about worst anime of last year, and at least one of those has the true crap instead of "it's popular, now it sucks".
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Post by: Tymers Realm on 14 January 2019, 14:13:51
Märchen Mädchen (Maerchen Maedchen). I watched first episode by kato's recommendation and decided to wait until season gets done so I don't need to wait a week for next episode. Then I read animation quality took a nose dive, last episodes got delayed or cancelled, and I didn't get back to it. YouTube has some videos about worst anime of last year, and at least one of those has the true crap instead of "it's popular, now it sucks".

Oh Märchen Mädchen took nosedives in both animation quality and script. I think I made it to about ep 8 and called it. IIRC on Watch Mojo's worst of 2018, Märchen Mädchen ranked #3, which surprised the hell out of me. But the number 1 & 2 seemed to be good enough to out worse it.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 17 January 2019, 14:18:26
Meanwhile, from the guys who brought you Red Vs Blue...

https://twitter.com/RoosterTeeth/status/1085959939183529984

Seriously, that freakin cast list is way past anything I'd expect and I look VERY forward to this.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 17 January 2019, 14:24:38
gen:LOCK was announced about a year or so ago. Nice to see how it's coming along, but I'm still not crazy about the way Rooster Teeth does their shading, or lackthereof....
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Post by: Matti on 17 January 2019, 16:06:50
Meanwhile, from the guys who brought you Red Vs Blue...

https://twitter.com/RoosterTeeth/status/1085959939183529984

Seriously, that freakin cast list is way past anything I'd expect and I look VERY forward to this.
Have there been complaints about English dub in place of "original Japanese" yet?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 17 January 2019, 16:08:37
Have there been complaints about English dub in place of "original Japanese" yet?

That's usually covered by RWBY...
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Post by: Foxx Ital on 18 January 2019, 05:23:01
Went with a buddy to see the new dbs:Brolly movie! Was great! My friend while dropping me off home jokingly said," good luck getting to sleep!" Because we were so amped, jokes on him tho, I work night shifts and he has to get up at 5 am to go crabbing.
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Post by: Charlie Tango on 18 January 2019, 10:39:47
gen:LOCK was announced about a year or so ago. Nice to see how it's coming along, but I'm still not crazy about the way Rooster Teeth does their shading, or lackthereof....

18 months ago, actually.   8)   RTX 2017, which was in August.


The New York Times actually listed gen:LOCK as one of their "shows to watch" in their Winter TV preview article about two weeks ago:  https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/03/arts/television/winter-tv-shows.html


and if you would like to check out the official trailer that dropped, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmeYSCn54IM&t=1s


I know it doesn't fall into some people's "anime" designation, but this type of Western-made anime-inspired series I think is going to come more and more,  and with this cast (and there are more known names than just the four in the trailer who are associated with this on the voice acting side),  this series has the potential be the bellwether on whether or not these types of series will succeed or fail.

I am very hyped for this series, and I hope all of the folks here in the anime thread on a big-stompy-robot game forum at least give it a *look*.

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Post by: Matti on 18 January 2019, 13:03:17
I know it doesn't fall into some people's "anime" designation, but this type of Western-made anime-inspired series I think is going to come more and more
In that case here's another one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_CP4SuoTU) in case somebody here hasn't seen it yet :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 18 January 2019, 13:15:40
I know it doesn't fall into some people's "anime" designation
Feels about as gritting to me as designating Korean "webtoons" as manga. Which yes, people do.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 18 January 2019, 15:05:24
Just becase it isn't anime doesn't mean I won't watch it. I've been moderately intrigued about gen:LOCK since it got announced purely from a real robot sci-fi perspective. If the story is good enough to overcome my aversion to Roosterteeth's art style, I'll be all for it!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 19 January 2019, 00:14:16
I get you on the art style. It looks a lot like what they've been using in what little I've seen of the Resistance, so I can't help but wonder about the inspiration.

However, I know that after giving RWBY a chance, the story did make up for the art.  So, here's hoping.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 19 January 2019, 07:07:45
Huh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqu4D8P_oLQ

Do not click that if you have a Thing about spiders.  (weapons-grade schmuck bait)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 19 January 2019, 08:21:29
One has to really wonder how far they'd take the anime, because there's enough out there for three to four cours minimum - at breakneck speed. And whether they'll base it on the LN or the WN, because those diverge.
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Post by: Maingunnery on 19 January 2019, 08:44:22
One has to really wonder how far they'd take the anime, because there's enough out there for three to four cours minimum - at breakneck speed. And whether they'll base it on the LN or the WN, because those diverge.
The trailer seems to suggest more human interaction, so I imagine a breakneck speed leveling up, and then going its own way and interacting with more humans (leaving the caves).
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Post by: kato on 19 January 2019, 09:42:58
That's not that far, you can get that with just Volume 4 of the LN i think, possibly interjecting the S chapters here and there (that the manga skips entirely). Except for one of the girls shown - she's actually on the cover of Volume 5.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 19 January 2019, 14:48:09
High Score Girl is finally up on Netflix. It's a pretty decent anime but the ending leaves a lot to be desired unless there is going to be another season. It's too open with no real resolution of the plot. Really though whoever wrote it (LN or manga?) really must miss the old days of gaming lol
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Post by: Dies Irae on 20 January 2019, 11:07:13
I'm not particularly sure where Egao no Daika (The Price of Smiles) is going, but given the near whiplash pace they've oscillated between cutesy slice-of-life and in-your-face war is hell...

Well... colour me fascinated.
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Post by: Matti on 21 January 2019, 16:14:23
Couple good ones more
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 22 January 2019, 22:21:04
It just doesn't look like there's anything GOOD this season, other than Magic Girl Asuka.

Reincarnated as a Slime's still going on, but man... I never thought I would HATE looking at a girl's asscrack but I am really looking forward to the part where they give Milim pants. They did not focus on cheesecake shots for Milim in the manga, at all, but this week's episode it seems like every other shot was focused on her crotch or ass.

I still like it a lot, mostly because as my wife put it "A guy gets put in another world and goes all Harvest Moon." He just wants to live peacefully.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 22 January 2019, 22:25:13
That's the thing that really differentiates it from most of the "reincarnated in another world" series: it's not an immature wish-fulfillment about being a ludicrously OP character who can destroy everything in their path, ain't it cool?  Remaru's a nice person and just tries to be friends with everyone.

Though I'd really like to see Gabiru and his sycophants turned into luggage.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 22 January 2019, 22:43:45
That's the thing that really differentiates it from most of the "reincarnated in another world" series: it's not an immature wish-fulfillment about being a ludicrously OP character who can destroy everything in their path, ain't it cool?  Remaru's a nice person and just tries to be friends with everyone.

Though I'd really like to see Gabiru and his sycophants turned into luggage.
I thought they were really annoying in the manga and LN, but for some reason their over-the-topness amuses me more than it annoys me in the anime. "Gabiru-sama!" *sobs*

Though it's not a patch on the lizardmen as depicted in Overlord, who had distinct traits that played off their lizardliness. Now THAT made me want to roll up a D&D lizardman.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 23 January 2019, 03:21:09
It just doesn't look like there's anything GOOD this season, other than Magic Girl Asuka.

Egao no Daika & Endro!. It's not much, but it's entertaining! Endro's especially funny & cute in a sort of medieval fantasy Milky Holmes sort of way!

Though I'd really like to see Gabiru and his sycophants turned into luggage.

Way to kill the show, Gabiru's the best character!  ;D
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Post by: kato on 23 January 2019, 12:14:12
I'm basically watching - beyond just looking at it and skipping forward:

Kaguya-sama wa Kokurasetai : Couple dancing around the question of who gives in and confesses to the other. School setting. A bit sedate and the narrator is a bit annoying, but it does have some bite here and there.
Girly Air Force : Yeah, it's the umpteenth adaption of anthropomorphic planes. If you get beyond that you'll grow to like their cameo jokes that refer to pretty much every remotely related anime from ten to fifteen years ago. Because this is actually comedy, not harem action.
Kemurikusa : Tatsuki, tanoshii.
Yakusoku no Neverland : Borderline drop, don't really do horror. Thinking about replacing that, though i haven't quite found the right thing yet. Possibly with Bermuda Triangle, the new Cardfight!! spinoff.

Plus Domestic na Kanojo and Go-Toubun no Hanayome of course.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 23 January 2019, 12:32:52
Kaguya-sama wa Kokurasetai

Finally, a show that makes fun of ridiculous will they/won't they resolutionless manga romance!  :D i've been digging it too....

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Girly Air Force :

I'm very close to giving it the drop - the pace is slow, the characters are only moderately engaging & I'm not sure the plot will amount to anything. Who decided the F-4 Phantom of all things was a suitable platform for alien vectored-thrust supertech?!

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Go-Toubun no Hanayome of course.

Moderately funny - I like the ridiculous ahoge everyone's got. You just don't see designs like that anymore! :D
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Post by: Maingunnery on 23 January 2019, 14:16:07
Reincarnated as a Slime's still going on, but man... I never thought I would HATE looking at a girl's asscrack but I am really looking forward to the part where they give Milim pants.
But who would dare to tell her to wear pants?
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Post by: Wrangler on 23 January 2019, 14:37:08
I'm very close to giving it the drop - the pace is slow, the characters are only moderately engaging & I'm not sure the plot will amount to anything. Who decided the F-4 Phantom of all things was a suitable platform for alien vectored-thrust supertech?!

I remember buy old (non-translated) mangas when i was in Japan. I noticed that there was fondness i guess for the F-4 Phantom Ii fighter jet.  Maybe because it was in Japan's airforce bit before being replaced.  There are in fact, 2 squadrons of (Japanese produced) F-4EJ Kai Phantoms still flying waiting for replacement by F-35 Lightning II next year.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 23 January 2019, 14:42:09
Yeah, but we're talking about the lead sled here! The idea that one would be used to test a kind of high-maneuver gear is straining my credulity, even for a "date your favorite warplane" kinda fantasy setting!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: iamfanboy on 23 January 2019, 14:51:46
But who would dare to tell her to wear pants?
The secret is to make her WANT to wear pants...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 23 January 2019, 15:56:47
The secret is to make her WANT to wear pants...
It would require her discovering the concept of Modesty.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 23 January 2019, 18:43:55
Or some really awesome pants.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 23 January 2019, 19:15:38
Made of honey??
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Post by: MadCapellan on 23 January 2019, 20:16:29
Speaking of sweet things, my copy of Heisei Doujin Monogatari came in the mail yesterday - https://www.heisei-doujin.love/
 (https://www.heisei-doujin.love/)

For those unaware, the Heisei Era is likely to end this year, with Emperor Akihito expected to abdicate in April. As sort of a capstone to the era, 170 manga artists, visual novel illustrators, animators & major doujin artists came together to produce this 290 page artbook celebration of otaku culture across the years of 1989 to 2018! Sold at Comiket, this non-explicit book is still available from a number of second hand distributors & is worth EVERY. SINGLE. YEN. A who's who of otaku culture from Slayer's Rui Araizumi to Kizuna Ai's official illustrator En Morikura draw art of not just their characters but a cavalcade of anime, manga & game characters that had a profound impact on them over the past three decades! From the insanely popular to the crazy obscure, so many characters got a shout out & message of appreciation from the creators! If I ever have the opportunity to meet any of these artists in person, THIS is the book I'm taking to have them sign! I highly recommend it, it's truly a once in an era treasure!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 23 January 2019, 23:28:46
That's the thing that really differentiates it from most of the "reincarnated in another world" series: it's not an immature wish-fulfillment about being a ludicrously OP character who can destroy everything in their path, ain't it cool?
Writers these days. They don't seem to understand that male lead needs to be useless angsting wimp with no interest for intimate relationship and never get a kiss.
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Post by: Wrangler on 24 January 2019, 07:15:56
Writers these days. They don't seem to understand that male lead needs to be useless angsting wimp with no interest for intimate relationship and never get a kiss.
That's funny, a manga randomly read the other day was complete OPPOSITE of that.  This one has oldman, who STAYS oldman in otherworld since god accidently took him for mistaken instead of his grandson.  Its slightly more adventure comedy if anything else.

That be amusing to see made into a film.  KonoSuba being made into one (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2019-01-21/theater-chain-lists-konosuba-film-with-july-12-opening/.142340), so why not this?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 24 January 2019, 11:45:13
Writers these days. They don't seem to understand that male lead needs to be useless angsting wimp with no interest for intimate relationship and never get a kiss.

Pretty sure that trend's been dead since the first season of SAO, honestly. Supermen protagonists are the dominant form of LN protagonist this decade.....
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 24 January 2019, 11:58:21
Pretty sure that trend's been dead since the first season of SAO, honestly. Supermen protagonists are the dominant form of LN protagonist this decade.....
And I call it an improvement
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Post by: Ghostbear_Gurdel on 24 January 2019, 12:43:02
Magical Girl Asuka is of course one of my favorite Anime this season, but I've also really been enjoying "The Rising of a Shield Hero". The way character and reputation (and possibly even Social Class) is being directed and manipulated is making for interesting viewing.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 24 January 2019, 13:00:18
And I call it an improvement

As would I, although it's likewise not ideal. As much as I think Evangelion was a great anime, it's legacy of emotionally-damaged, aimless, perpetually maudlin male protagonists was one of my greatest frustrations with the medium back in the first decade of the century. While the current trend towards flawlessly brilliant protagonists unappreciated by the ignorant masses is a wish-fulfillment fantasy that does little to stengthen the narrative of a story, at least they aren't so mind-numbingly whiney & needy as to put you off the story entirely!  ;D
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 24 January 2019, 14:06:43
Yeah, but we're talking about the lead sled here! The idea that one would be used to test a kind of high-maneuver gear is straining my credulity, even for a "date your favorite warplane" kinda fantasy setting!
Smartphone wierdness aside, I got the idea they're placing this in the mid/late 80s. F-4 makes a bit more sense for back then.
Even so, the Japanese F-4EJ/F-4EJ Kai/RF-4EJ is STILL in operation in the JSDF, although they're starting to finally phase them out altogether.

As would I, although it's likewise not ideal. As much as I think Evangelion was a great anime, it's legacy of emotionally-damaged, aimless, perpetually maudlin male protagonists was one of my greatest frustrations with the medium back in the first decade of the century. While the current trend towards flawlessly brilliant protagonists unappreciated by the ignorant masses is a wish-fulfillment fantasy that does little to stengthen the narrative of a story, at least they aren't so mind-numbingly whiney & needy as to out you off the story entirely!  ;D
I was never a fan of the former, but I hardly consider the current standard an improvement. It might actually be worse as the maudlin type usually has to actually work at it, and improve themselves, as opposed to having everything dropped in their lap, with no challenge.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 24 January 2019, 14:58:46
About Reincarnated as a Slime:
I still like it a lot, mostly because as my wife put it "A guy gets put in another world and goes all Harvest Moon." He just wants to live peacefully.
I recommend to your wife Isekai Nonbiri Nouka and Orenchi ni Kita Onna Kishi to Inakagurashi Surukotoninatta Ken.


Kaguya-sama wa Kokurasetai : Couple dancing around the question of who gives in and confesses to the other. School setting. A bit sedate and the narrator is a bit annoying, but it does have some bite here and there.
Are they being tsundere at each other?

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Plus Domestic na Kanojo and Go-Toubun no Hanayome of course.
I have read manga of Domestic Girlfriend. How is anime? Any significant cuts? Censorship? Other details worth to share? And I need info about The Quintessential Quintuplets (Go-Toubun etc. for those who stream from Japan)

I recall reading something about new anime about fighter pilot mercenaries, but I didn't bookmark it or anything. What is it again, do you know? And is it any good?

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About male lead characters:
I was never a fan of the former, but I hardly consider the current standard an improvement. It might actually be worse as the maudlin type usually has to actually work at it, and improve themselves, as opposed to having everything dropped in their lap, with no challenge.
Some of them actually had to work for it. It may have been before start of the story and is referenced in flashbacks and/or monologue.
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Post by: Matti on 24 January 2019, 15:11:53
I recall reading something about new anime about fighter pilot mercenaries, but I didn't bookmark it or anything. What is it again, do you know? And is it any good?
Found it:
The Magnificent KOTOBUKI
Kōya no Kotobuki Hikōtai (Japanese)
荒野のコトブキ飛行隊 (Japanese)

Streamers include Sentai Filmworks and HIDIVE. I'll check it out and comment here after maintenance is done on HIDIVE side.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 24 January 2019, 15:13:47
I recall reading something about new anime about fighter pilot mercenaries, but I didn't bookmark it or anything. What is it again, do you know? And is it any good?

That's The Magnificent Kotobuki - the hyper prevelence of CG is kinda off-putting, but the Crimson Skies-like setting is kinda fun, the pilots are charming enough & the dog fighting is good! Plot doesn't have much direction as of yet, though.

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About male lead characters:Some of them actually had to work for it. It may have been before start of the story and is referenced in flashbacks and/or monologue.

Shiba Tatsuya suffered for our sins, Praise Be Onii-sama!  ;D
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 24 January 2019, 15:21:15
I was never a fan of the former, but I hardly consider the current standard an improvement. It might actually be worse as the maudlin type usually has to actually work at it, and improve themselves, as opposed to having everything dropped in their lap, with no challenge.

Yeah, but the maudlin types tend to be so grating on the nerves as they sit around angsting about how they had such a wretched childhood, nobody loves them, it's unfair that they're forced to do this, and the cafeteria was out of pudding again.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 24 January 2019, 15:47:26
Are they being tsundere at each other?
Not in the classic sense.

I have read manga of Domestic Girlfriend. How is anime? Any significant cuts? Censorship? Other details worth to share?
Haven't really seen any significant cuts so far. In fact i like that there's some panels that they straight-up adapt to anime with regard to posing etc too. The mature content of the manga is rearranged to fit into a general audience - for example the "imagination panel" in the bathroom scene in chapter 2 is arranged and verbalized in a much less explicit way, but the context is still there entirely. Censorship is otherwise on the light side, but you can easily guess anyway what kind of things you won't see here.

Adaption is very slow, only about 2 chapters per episode. There's no real filler per se, but some scenes are dragged out a bit in length beyond what's in the manga (like the above bathroom scene). If they keep it at that they should also get to a good point to wrap up the cour, so i doubt they'll speed it up.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 24 January 2019, 15:54:54
Yeah, but the maudlin types tend to be so grating on the nerves as they sit around angsting about how they had such a wretched childhood, nobody loves them, it's unfair that they're forced to do this, and the cafeteria was out of pudding again.

The world's saddest mix-tape, played on the world's smallest walkman.....

(http://i.imgur.com/416rwQR.jpg)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 24 January 2019, 16:04:06
Found it:
The Magnificent KOTOBUKI
Kōya no Kotobuki Hikōtai (Japanese)
荒野のコトブキ飛行隊 (Japanese)

Streamers include Sentai Filmworks and HIDIVE. I'll check it out and comment here after maintenance is done on HIDIVE side.
Search didn't find it for me, so I typed it in browser's URL address field. Guess what?
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FINLAND - YOUR REGION IS NOT SUPPORTED AT THIS TIME – PLEASE CHECK BACK LATER. THANK YOU!
:ticked:
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 24 January 2019, 16:04:58
Go-toubun:
Moderately funny - I like the ridiculous ahoge everyone's got. You just don't see designs like that anymore! :D
The ahoge are in the manga. The art in the anime is a bit "overblown" compared to the manga though, hyping expressions - in particular facial, but also situational. Some of the jokes are also worded differently for the same effect btw, in a snarkier or more explicit way.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 24 January 2019, 19:34:38
:ticked:
Well, I'm not surprised that one of the stereotypes of Finnish people is their drinking habits. (I wouldn't want to attempt drinking them under table...)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 25 January 2019, 00:09:59
Well, I'm not surprised that one of the stereotypes of Finnish people is their drinking habits. (I wouldn't want to attempt drinking them under table...)
You might be able to beat me on it: strong liquor makes me feel nauseous and throwing up. I can handle (some) beer, cider, and long drink (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_drink) though.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Dies Irae on 25 January 2019, 23:32:43
Yeah, but the maudlin types tend to be so grating on the nerves as they sit around angsting about how they had such a wretched childhood, nobody loves them, it's unfair that they're forced to do this, and the cafeteria was out of pudding again.

Yeah, but the superhuman ones induce retching in me as they tend to intersect and overlap with harem wish-fulfillment tropes. I find neither particularly great, but I prefer the miserable ones because some of them actually grow out of their problems.

The superhuman 'this was me once but I got better' tend to gloss over the transition in favor of being audience self-inserts, which doesn't work for me.

Matter of personal tastes, really, but I'd honestly much rather have a Shinji than a Kirito.

Mind you, this is the internet, so there's probably no wrong or right answer.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 25 January 2019, 23:38:57
Personally, I'd rather have neither.
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Post by: Dies Irae on 25 January 2019, 23:47:56
Personally, I'd rather have neither.

Agreed. Both might have been new ideas at the time of launch but they've become lazy fallback tropes.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 26 January 2019, 00:36:45
Especially since both are often done instead of bothering to create an actual personality for the protagonist.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 26 January 2019, 03:37:40

A protagonist or group who is moving forward (but taking losses, making mistakes in the process, etc), characters who have angst but also possess resolve, characters with that balance are far more interesting to me than the Shinjis or the Kiritos on the extremes.  Maybe that's just my Western sensibilities talking, but the shows where the writing of the protagonist and other characters strike those balances are far more interesting to me than the "perfect protagonist" or "hyper emo kid".
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 26 January 2019, 12:31:51
I also prefer shows where the entire team is shown to be vital to success rather than just have everyone be a cheer squad for the main character as they save the day more or less singlehandedly.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 26 January 2019, 16:43:46
I also prefer shows where the entire team is shown to be vital to success rather than just have everyone be a cheer squad for the main character as they save the day more or less singlehandedly.
Goblin Slayer. He totally got his ass thrashed by Goblin Lord. Then Priestess came to the rescue.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 26 January 2019, 16:46:02
Goblin Slayer. He totally got his ass thrashed by Goblin Lord. Then Priestess came to the rescue.
Um, He planned for the Priestess to be there actually. That's why he asked her to prepare these barrier spells.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 26 January 2019, 18:30:56
So I just discovered that heavy metal J-pop is a thing.

Heavy metal is good.

J-pop is sometimes good.

Heavy metal J-pop is an abomination.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 26 January 2019, 19:41:55
... wait until you find Alternative Idol groups.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 26 January 2019, 19:55:18
So I just discovered that heavy metal J-pop is a thing.

Heavy metal is good.

J-pop is sometimes good.

Heavy metal J-pop is an abomination.
Your summation is subjective and also wrong.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 26 January 2019, 20:26:27
Don't forget that Goblin Slayer also nearly died in one of his fights. At least he doesn't win because he is OP. Though for those that ARE OP I prefer there be humor in it such as the poor guy from One Punch Man who is sick of winning so easily.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 26 January 2019, 21:10:16
Your summation is subjective and also wrong.

Thank you for your subjective opinion.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Dies Irae on 27 January 2019, 04:08:32
Up to this point, Egao no Daika (The Price of Smiles) has done an excellent job of keeping me engaged (besides one unfortunate moment where I expressed my positivity for the show on the internet and was jumped by a "RAH! MUH MILITARY REALISM!" fan).

Despite it's unimpressively generic art style, it's a show comfortable enough with itself to play seemingly generic mecha anime tropes straight, but also to take them to their logical conclusion. It's not an Evangelion-esque deconstruction, but it is surprisingly hard hitting in that it isn't afraid to go beyond it's neo-feudal sci-fi trappings to remind the viewer that was is in-fact a terrible thing, no matter how cool the merchandise friendly mecha designs are.

It'll take some suspension of belief (for the military and politics) but this is a show about giant fighty robots, so minor logical inconsistencies are par for the course for these things.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 27 January 2019, 10:16:55
About Domestic Girlfriend:
Haven't really seen any significant cuts so far. In fact i like that there's some panels that they straight-up adapt to anime with regard to posing etc too. The mature content of the manga is rearranged to fit into a general audience - for example the "imagination panel" in the bathroom scene in chapter 2 is arranged and verbalized in a much less explicit way, but the context is still there entirely. Censorship is otherwise on the light side, but you can easily guess anyway what kind of things you won't see here.

Adaption is very slow, only about 2 chapters per episode. There's no real filler per se, but some scenes are dragged out a bit in length beyond what's in the manga (like the above bathroom scene). If they keep it at that they should also get to a good point to wrap up the cour, so i doubt they'll speed it up.
Thanks for info. Anime streams on HIDIVE, but Finland is excluded >:(
I'll consider buying discs once those come available.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ghostbear_Gurdel on 27 January 2019, 23:21:52
Up to this point, Egao no Daika (The Price of Smiles) has done an excellent job of keeping me engaged (besides one unfortunate moment where I expressed my positivity for the show on the internet and was jumped by a "RAH! MUH MILITARY REALISM!" fan).

Despite it's unimpressively generic art style, it's a show comfortable enough with itself to play seemingly generic mecha anime tropes straight, but also to take them to their logical conclusion. It's not an Evangelion-esque deconstruction, but it is surprisingly hard hitting in that it isn't afraid to go beyond it's neo-feudal sci-fi trappings to remind the viewer that was is in-fact a terrible thing, no matter how cool the merchandise friendly mecha designs are.

It'll take some suspension of belief (for the military and politics) but this is a show about giant fighty robots, so minor logical inconsistencies are par for the course for these things.

I read this review and thought I would give this show a chance, and so I watched the first episode, but, i dunno..... The princess seems so utterly unprepared and unqualified for her role as ruler that I'm having a hard time with it. I'll give it another episode, but while the advisors seem competent, they have failed completely to educate and train her properly, so she could be prepared for the responsibilities and have the qualities needed from a ruler in a feudal society.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Dies Irae on 28 January 2019, 00:01:30
I read this review and thought I would give this show a chance, and so I watched the first episode, but, i dunno..... The princess seems so utterly unprepared and unqualified for her role as ruler that I'm having a hard time with it. I'll give it another episode, but while the advisors seem competent, they have failed completely to educate and train her properly, so she could be prepared for the responsibilities and have the qualities needed from a ruler in a feudal society.

I was prepared to drop 'Bland Neo-Feudal Mecha Show' after the first episode as well, but then the stinger after the credits of the first episode changed the entire tone completely.

The revelation is that there is actually a real shooting war on and said princess is a largely ceremonial and overly coddled figurehead whose advisers have spent most of their time concealing the truth from and are basically end-running her orders. That said, I will agree that the poor tyke needs a proper regent, but that would make her so much harder to decieve.

Each of the future episodes drip-feeds new information, developments and little clues and snippets which has kept me following this rather closely.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 28 January 2019, 01:58:32
Makes you wonder why they're even bothering with the deception, doesn't it?

Hey, a question I had since I've been playing Persona 5 lately: what's the Japanese school year?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 28 January 2019, 06:48:10
Makes you wonder why they're even bothering with the deception, doesn't it?

From the big presentation & posters plastered everywhere in the later episodes, it strikes me that they have seen the cheerful princess as an excellent morale booster, which is what a figure head is for after all. They've also royally (hehe) screwed up in not preparing her for the realities of her reign is they aren't going to just depose her, but they seem comfortable disobeying her orders, so in all likelihood she is still something of a figurehead in a cage.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 28 January 2019, 12:12:17
At that point you'd think it would be easier to just tell her it was a ceremonial role.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 28 January 2019, 13:53:28
At that point you'd think it would be easier to just tell her it was a ceremonial role.

Well, one of the knights basically suggested as much, but the leadership told her to get back in line, so..... *shrug*
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 28 January 2019, 16:14:17
Moment ago I watched last episode of Bloom Into You. One sided yuri love.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 29 January 2019, 12:00:08
They've also royally (hehe) screwed up in not preparing her for the realities of her reign is they aren't going to just depose her, but they seem comfortable disobeying her orders, so in all likelihood she is still something of a figurehead in a cage.
I suspect a big portion of it is that they're treating her like a surrogate daughter, not like their future ruler. So they're giving into the strong impulse of sheltering her from the world as long as possible. This was not the wisest plan on their part, but it's not an unrealistic one either.

That said, looking at some commentary from other places, I'm not sure why so many watchers seem ANGRY at the princess. You dont blame the puppy for pissing on the floor when you never trained them not too, it's not her fault. Even the debacle with the rescue, she wasnt the one ordering the troops in the field, it was the commander. If he was doing his job, he'd have took her to the side and explained a few realities, although that entire thing might have just been an object lesson to begin with.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 29 January 2019, 12:18:54
I suspect a big portion of it is that they're treating her like a surrogate daughter, not like their future ruler. So they're giving into the strong impulse of sheltering her from the world as long as possible. This was not the wisest plan on their part, but it's not an unrealistic one either.

Layla stated that conflict started with the Empire after the Soleil accused them of being responsible for the terrorist bombing that killed the previous monarchs. One must wonder what sort of evidence led them to that conclusion. Since the princess was only an infant in the flashback, it seems incredibly likely that producing a completely sheltered head of state isn't the only way the privy council's been mucking up!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Øystein on 29 January 2019, 16:45:28
Anyone watched gen:LOCK?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 29 January 2019, 16:52:18
Anyone watched gen:LOCK?
I was intending to. I only saw the trailer.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 29 January 2019, 21:28:25
I watched it. Pretty interesting units so far. A little Battletech mixed with Gundam as far as the varied mecha is concerned. The fighters from the first episode had some cool abilities as well.

Though unless I'm missing something the backstory for the worlds political factions is rather... missing. Even some details in the intro would have been nice to have.

Will be watching this series. The e-brains remind me of ID0 in a way and so far the military units are interesting to watch.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 29 January 2019, 22:11:26
Looks like Armored Trooper Votoms is coming to blu ray in a couple months.

Of those here who've actually seen it, worth watching or not?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 29 January 2019, 23:11:28
Anyone watched gen:LOCK?

First ep is interesting. How ep two goes will really tell how this show is gonna go.
I gotta wait till Saturday for that. I'm not a RT First member (i.e. a subscriber) to see that to see that right now.

My overall impressions is it's RT's take on ID:0 ...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ruger on 30 January 2019, 04:39:39
Looks like Armored Trooper Votoms is coming to blu ray in a couple months.

Of those here who've actually seen it, worth watching or not?

Worth it. I need to rewatch my dvd's at some point...maybe after I get done with Space Battleship Yamato 2199...second half should arrive this week...

Ruger
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 30 January 2019, 11:31:19
I watched it. Pretty interesting units so far. A little Battletech mixed with Gundam as far as the varied mecha is concerned. The fighters from the first episode had some cool abilities as well.

Though unless I'm missing something the backstory for the worlds political factions is rather... missing. Even some details in the intro would have been nice to have.

Will be watching this series. The e-brains remind me of ID0 in a way and so far the military units are interesting to watch.

Yeah, I would like to know a little more background.  I think they are trying to avoid too much exposition-ing up front and are focusing on the action rather than the politics.
They aren't even doing a lot of explanation of a lot of the technology; they are showing you the tech, but not over-explaining it.   But I definitely want to know more about the overall conflict.   I think they have a pretty deep backstory and conflict in the story, we just haven't seen a lot of it yet.  But it is only one (or two if you are a Rooster Teeeth or VRV member) episodes in, so I'm definitely willing to give it the benefit of the doubt.

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 30 January 2019, 13:48:11
Looks like Armored Trooper Votoms is coming to blu ray in a couple months.

Of those here who've actually seen it, worth watching or not?
Yes. Definitely one of the better mecha anime I have seen. Despite of being bit old, protagonist is badass veteran (instead of untrained teenager), doesn't angst (much), and he even pursues relationship with a woman.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: mdauben on 30 January 2019, 14:05:53
I recently finished watching the winter series Tsurune about a high school archery (kyudo) team.  The title of the series is supposed to be the sound a bow makes when you shoot an arrow.  Nothing terribly exciting or groundbreaking, but I still really enjoyed it.  The main character is suffering from a sort of performance anxiety that keeps him from hitting the target.  Nice artwork and animation.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 30 January 2019, 14:39:50
doesn't angst (much),

You gotta admit his PTSD triggering hard from the patriotic marching band music was pretty out there!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 30 January 2019, 15:17:05
You gotta admit his PTSD triggering hard from the patriotic marching band music was pretty out there!
I don't deny it, hence (much)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 30 January 2019, 15:33:33
You gotta admit his PTSD triggering hard from the patriotic marching band music was pretty out there!

How respectfully does it handle his PTSD?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 30 January 2019, 15:45:34
How respectfully does it handle his PTSD?

I think it's intended to be played straight, but the way it's portrayed is kinda ridiculous. Like someone wanted to produce an artistic allusion to the horrors of war without showing it, but instead our proud super-soldier is running scared room to room from the sound of a sousaphone!  ;D
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Post by: Matti on 30 January 2019, 15:55:58
our proud super-soldier
Perfect soldier! At least in the translation i got
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 30 January 2019, 16:03:17
Perfect soldier! At least in the translation i got

Perfect Soldier is the VOTOMS brand-name for thr generic super-soldier product.  ;)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 01 February 2019, 02:06:50
Finished up watching Ghost In The Shell: Stand Alone Complex with my friend tonight with Solid State Society.  It's been a few years since I've seen them.  But they still hold up for the most part.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 01 February 2019, 11:51:29
Next trailer for Space Battleship Yamato 2202 is out. (https://youtu.be/ugVJu5iG-Xw) Its looking good. Times are getting rougher!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Øystein on 01 February 2019, 14:42:40
Next trailer for Space Battleship Yamato 2202 is out. (https://youtu.be/ugVJu5iG-Xw) Its looking good. Times are getting rougher!

No scenes over 1 second.. Did JJ Abrams make the trailer? :D
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 01 February 2019, 18:11:13
running scared room to room from the sound of a sousaphone!  ;D
Well it IS a sousaphone...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 01 February 2019, 18:35:12
Can't wait for the next part of the story. I've been watching the dub first, plan on doing a binge watch of the sub when all of them are released. Love the series, loved watching Starblazers as a kid along with Thundersub etc.
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Post by: Top Sergeant on 01 February 2019, 22:28:49
Ep 4 of Asuka turned out to be disturbing in addition to the normal gruesome.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 02 February 2019, 08:21:58
with Thundersub etc.
What hell is Thundersub?  ??? ??? I guess I miss that one when i was a kid.   
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 02 February 2019, 10:04:08
"Thundersub" was Space Carrier Blue Noah, from 1979/80. Plotwise it was pretty much a carbon copy of Space Battleship Yamato (to virtually every extent!), though it was set mostly around Earth.

Was originally commissioned and aired in Japan by the same TV channel, who wanted to further cash in on the Yamato success i guess. Writer was Yoshinobu Nishizaki, who created Space Battleship Yamato with Leiji Matsumoto, with the two having legal battles over the Yamato IP and copyright issues pretty much since the 80s until Nishizaki died in 2010. Blue Noah does make some cameos in later re-adaptions of Yamato here and there, e.g. in the form of ship names.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 03 February 2019, 03:39:47
Eh??? What about Tranzor Z?? That's another I watched. As well as Captain Harlock.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 04 February 2019, 17:08:14
Tranzor Z was the English dub of Mazinger Z, interspaced with occasional clips of Great Mazinger.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 04 February 2019, 18:18:01
Didn't know about the Great Mazinger part.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 05 February 2019, 07:34:43
The Magnificent Kotobuki keeps getting better. Zara drinking vodka & gin straight! No wonder she put those guys under the table.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 05 February 2019, 15:56:19
I just watched last episode of Hinamatsuri. Liked it. There's manga too, and it looks like anime skipped some of the content. In manga Hina goes to high school and meets more superpowered people. Hina herself is still pretty indifferent about it though (https://s5.mangadex.org/data/73b6de3584a8c3dfb89299b16512e66f/e4.png)

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Will anime have second season?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 05 February 2019, 16:38:49
I just watched last episode of Hinamatsuri. Liked it. There's manga too, and it looks like anime skipped some of the content. In manga Hina goes to high school and meets more superpowered people. Hina herself is still pretty indifferent about it though (https://s5.mangadex.org/data/73b6de3584a8c3dfb89299b16512e66f/e4.png)

[edit]
Will anime have second season?

I hope it does!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 09 February 2019, 08:36:45
Been watching magical girl anime. Just 1 episode left of Alice & Zoroku, and before that I watched Hinamatsuri. Great ones and I highly recommend both of them. Maybe next I'll get started with Magical Girl Spec-Ops Asuka...

By the way, is it terribly wrong of me to think that Hina of Hinamatsuri is magical girl equivalent of Hancock (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iFcGNOWnA8)?
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Post by: DarkSpade on 09 February 2019, 11:49:32
By the way, is it terribly wrong of me to think that Hina of Hinamatsuri is magical girl equivalent of Hancock (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iFcGNOWnA8)?

Is it? May have to add that to my watch list.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 10 February 2019, 15:37:44
About Hinamatsuri (and how it compares with Hancock)
Is it? May have to add that to my watch list.
Hina takes out the trash (https://s5.mangadex.org/data/4d2fe11ed9d627ff1fb74b9612498716/34.png)
Phone conversation about her powers (https://s1.mangadex.org/data/73b6de3584a8c3dfb89299b16512e66f/e4.png) (she's already in high school in that)

Just couple examples that remind me about Hancock. If in adulthood she's drinking sake while flying around (she can do that), then she'll be perfect!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 10 February 2019, 21:04:06
I just heard that a second season for Miss Kobyashi's Dragon Maid has been confirmed.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 10 February 2019, 21:36:02
Magical Girl Spec-Ops Asuka is absolutely NOT a typical Magical Girl show.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 10 February 2019, 21:41:09
More Dragon Maid!! Such a cute n funny show.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 11 February 2019, 08:29:01
Egao no Daika - Gotta admit, I'm not sure what the hell the leadership of Soleil thinks they can accomplish countermanding the princess at this point . Surrendering for her people sure seemed like the most logical & reasonable course of action for a country with an army reduced to a fifth of its prewar size.... ???
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 11 February 2019, 15:12:35
Third episode in Magical Girl Spec-Ops Asuka:
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Crushing these * is our job
Censored because of forum rules
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Dies Irae on 11 February 2019, 17:42:42
Egao no Daika - Gotta admit, I'm not sure what the hell the leadership of Soleil thinks they can accomplish countermanding the princess at this point . Surrendering for her people sure seemed like the most logical & reasonable course of action for a country with an army reduced to a fifth of its prewar size.... ???

A Japanese friend posits that there is a certain less-than-subtle ongoing meta-narrative regarding a 'well meaning noble ruler hoodwinked by their military advisers' that they're playing up for the local audience (and that he's somewhat uneasy with), but any further exploration of this will likely only end in tears (and forum rules violations).
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 11 February 2019, 17:58:04
A Japanese friend posits that there is a certain less-than-subtle ongoing narrative regarding a 'well meaning noble ruler hoodwinked by their military advisers' that they're playing up for the local audience (and that he's somewhat uneasy with), but any further exploration of this will likely only end in tears (and forum rules violations).

Well on the one hand, yes, the military collapse of an elite aristocratic state led by a less than well-informed monarch is pretty on the nose, & I figured that was part of the point. On the other hand, Yuki's council has yet to reveal any motives beyond continually sheltering her to an unjustifiable degree. At 20% military strength & falling back from the capital, it's really hard to see what military or political objective could be accomplished, & preserving the monarchy in these circumstances is truly just prolonging the inevitable. Tatsunoko's going to need one hell of a pay-off to explain this idiocy. No doubt they've written some pretty clever twists lately with stuff like Gatchaman Crowds & Yoru no Yatterman, but I'm just not seeing it clearly right now!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Dies Irae on 11 February 2019, 18:36:01
Well on the one hand, yes, the military collapse of an elite aristocratic state led by a less than well-informed monarch is pretty on the nose, & I figured that was part of the point. On the other hand, Yuki's council has yet to reveal any motives beyond continually sheltering her to an unjustifiable degree. At 20% military strength & falling back from the capital, it's really hard to see what military or political objective could be accomplished, & preserving the monarchy in these circumstances is truly just prolonging the inevitable. Tatsunoko's going to need one hell of a pay-off to explain this idiocy. No doubt they've written some pretty clever twists lately with stuff like Gatchaman Crowds & Yoru no Yatterman, but I'm just not seeing it clearly right now!

At this point, maybe I'm jaded, but I'm sort of just waiting for the Empire to utilise some technobabblish proxy for atomics before Yuki steps up to save everyone and brokers lasting peace while delivering an anvilicious message about war and WMDs being bad. The fact that the 'chrars' have been demonstrated blowing up really spectacularly is a Chekov's Gun if I've seen one.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 11 February 2019, 19:03:36
Tatsunoko's capable of so much more than that. If that's all they can deliver for their 55th Anniversary Project, maybe they should just start packing it in now...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 12 February 2019, 11:26:18
Guess what gets an anime (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkJmBWvCfNU)? Trailer alone covers several manga volumes (thick ones) worth of material and that can't be good...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 12 February 2019, 12:20:24
For those of us who don't want to click the link, or can't, can we get a reveal in spoilers?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 12 February 2019, 12:27:08
Vinland Saga, it seems...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 12 February 2019, 12:28:16
For those of us who don't want to click the link, or can't
Huh, how so? It's just a trailer on YouTube. Ah, let me guess: you're using outdated smart phone where YouTube app doesn't work anymore. I have that problem with my iPhone 4, but YouTube still works on Safari browser. Doesn't open links on it though... :(

Anyway trailer in question is Vinland Saga
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 12 February 2019, 14:18:37
No, I was asking because I was somewhere where I couldn't just get on YouTube.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Weirdo on 12 February 2019, 15:01:11
I'm in the same boat, for different reasons.

If you post a video link, feel safe in assuming I will almost never click on it and will instead wait until someone here actually talks about stuff in a post.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 12 February 2019, 15:09:33
Same. Just because I can browse this forum at work doesn't mean I can have the youtube app open, weird sound play & burn bandwidth just to know what you're talking about.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 12 February 2019, 16:25:41
I hear you. So anyway Vinland Saga is getting an anime and trailer/preview is out. It packs scenes from large number of different volumes, which makes me fear anime will skip greater deal of content than what Goblin Slayer anime does. Censorship is also concern for me.

By the way, Japanese seem to be unaware about controversy that goes against anime in America (and in other English speaking countries). Or at least producer (was it?) of The Shield Hero anime is. So that shouldn't have too much of effect. We can hope.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 13 February 2019, 23:31:49
A Japanese friend posits that there is a certain less-than-subtle ongoing meta-narrative regarding a 'well meaning noble ruler hoodwinked by their military advisers' that they're playing up for the local audience (and that he's somewhat uneasy with), but any further exploration of this will likely only end in tears (and forum rules violations).


No the comparison is not apt. The closest you could say would be vaguely in the ballpark.

That aside the anime is pretty good thus far.

Quintessential Quintuplets is living up to its source.

3D Kanojo had some good side characters developement this week.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 15 February 2019, 07:09:19
Anime Rising of the Shield Hero, video examining what content was left out compared to the manga/LN https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFhs6QToMJ0
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 15 February 2019, 11:14:07
The friend I've been showing my old anime finally got himself a Blu-Ray player.  We started watching Gundam 08th MS Team last night.

Once we're through with that, I'm introducing him to Black Lagoon.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 15 February 2019, 11:47:09
Black Lagoon is still in my top Three long with Cowboy Bebop and everything Ghost in the Shell
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 15 February 2019, 11:49:38
Black Lagoon is in my top 10 :)

The Price of Smiles is getting pretty good. The latest episode was a character focused arc on Stella.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Øystein on 15 February 2019, 16:05:12
Dragon Prince season 2 is on Netflix now :)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 15 February 2019, 23:09:15
Speaking of Dragon, i watched odd but entertaining film called "The Dragon Dentist".  Set during World War I like era/alternate history. This is about young man who get's rescued from his sinking Battleship by people living on flying dragon.  Where he begins new life trying keep the dragon safe. 

It's sound completely bizarre but it's serious film. Opening scenes with the warships were gorgeous.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: glitterboy2098 on 17 February 2019, 15:43:42
interesting look at the "striders" in Gen:Lock.
they are very battletech like.. and Omnimechs on top of that.
http://alphamecha.tumblr.com/post/182857485275/genlock-vehicle-analysis-vanguard-strider
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 18 February 2019, 09:25:31
interesting look at the "striders" in Gen:Lock.
they are very battletech like.. and Omnimechs on top of that.
http://alphamecha.tumblr.com/post/182857485275/genlock-vehicle-analysis-vanguard-strider
Not able to access that post where i am despite being able get on Tumblr. 

The Strider Looks interesting!
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/c16911886db8c887be7d260c8c5d0e79/tumblr_pn4gsyEkHU1wqy1e0o1_540.gif)
Bullets for everyone!  :D
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 18 February 2019, 09:48:57

The Striders are definitely shorter than BattleTech 'Mechs.  You can see this in the first episode when a pilot of a downed one scrambles over to climb into another one.  They look to be about 5-6 meters tall, while the holons (the gen:LOCK mecha) are as tall as  BattleTech assaults at a little more than 12 meters.

We do find out the Striders are built without hand or lower arm actuators though... we see one flip arms (and it even flips both arms) in one of the episodes.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: glitterboy2098 on 18 February 2019, 09:53:33
Not able to access that post where i am despite being able get on Tumblr. 
tumblr has gotten really weird about posts with links, you might have to check your account settings on it.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 20 February 2019, 11:27:14
Watched Gundam NT in theatre yesterday, & really enjoyed it! While it is most certainly not an entry level UC story & the middle act was a bit muddled, the finale brought a lot of clarity to the end of Unicorn & felt like it tied together the seperate Newtype phenomenon in Zeta, Char's Counterattack, UC & Victory! The action scenes were phenomenal! The stinger for Hathaway's Flash was exciting! I left the theatre feeling like the late Universal Century is wide open & is about to get a lot of love & attention!  :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Bedwyr on 20 February 2019, 11:58:19
Watched Gundam NT in theatre yesterday, & really enjoyed it! While it is most certainly not an entry level UC story & the middle act was a bit muddled, the finale brought a lot of clarity to the end of Unicorn & felt like it tied together the seperate Newtype phenomenon in Zeta, Char's Counterattack, UC & Victory! The action scenes were phenomenal! The stinger for Hathaway's Flash was exciting! I left the theatre feeling like the late Universal Century is wide open & is about to get a lot of love & attention!  :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:

For those of us without access to its distribution, is there a known or normal progression to how and when we'll be able to see NT?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 20 February 2019, 12:09:55
For those of us without access to its distribution, is there a known or normal progression to how and when we'll be able to see NT?

Nothing specific that I'm aware of. If UC/Origins are any metric, Right Stuf will release it on BD sometime early next year....
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Bedwyr on 20 February 2019, 12:15:23
Nothing specific that I'm aware of. If UC/Origins are any metric, Right Stuf will release it on BD sometime early next year....

That's not too bad. I was imagining longer.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 25 February 2019, 01:08:26
Just finished the original Full Metal Panic. The show ages really well. Working on Fumoffu and will finally get to TSR, soon enough.

Not strictly anime, but has anybody else checked out the new Carmen Sandiego? Interesting take, though I'm only 3 eps in.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 25 February 2019, 01:14:55
It's decent, aside from the way it handles information about locations: the "two people saying bits of trivia back and forth to each other" format is really awkward and forced.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ruger on 25 February 2019, 03:57:27

Not strictly anime, but has anybody else checked out the new Carmen Sandiego? Interesting take, though I'm only 3 eps in.

I used to love th old animated series...might have to check it out...

Probably old news here, but what were thoughts on a series called "Grimgar"? I spotted it on DVD at Best Buy yesterday and decided to pick it up as it was fairly cheaply priced.

Ruger
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Dies Irae on 25 February 2019, 07:52:07
I used to love th old animated series...might have to check it out...

Probably old news here, but what were thoughts on a series called "Grimgar"? I spotted it on DVD at Best Buy yesterday and decided to pick it up as it was fairly cheaply priced.

Ruger

Grimgar is a bit of an inversion in the "Stuck in a Medieval MMO" style isekai formula in that while it plays the stock tropes straight, it has a nasty twist in choosing to focus not on the obvious 'designated hero' type character and his merry band of hypercompetents but instead of the rest of the scrubs who were dragged along with him and are faced with a nasty and brutish medieval existence while the 'designated hero' traipses off to live his story and do his heroics off-screen.

It's slightly melodramatic and angsty, but it was a good series, with the usual "cuts-off-abruptly-so-go-buy-the-light-novel" caveat.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 25 February 2019, 12:05:09
Probably old news here, but what were thoughts on a series called "Grimgar"? I spotted it on DVD at Best Buy yesterday and decided to pick it up as it was fairly cheaply priced.
Isekai, apparently. Characters have amnesia and totally forget/ignore their origins. Otherwise much like Goblin Slayer but goblins don't do rape. Also lead character isn't stoic like Goblin Slayer is.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 26 February 2019, 20:46:40
I used to love th old animated series...might have to check it out...

Probably old news here, but what were thoughts on a series called "Grimgar"? I spotted it on DVD at Best Buy yesterday and decided to pick it up as it was fairly cheaply priced.

Ruger

My wife and I both enjoyed Grimgar quite a bit. It is a good take on how very average contemporary humans might have to adjust to having to fight to make a living.

There are no 'levels', no Adventurer's Guild, and as far as I have been able to tell they are actually in another world, not in a game. They do have traditional D&D-esque professions such as Mage, Priest, Warrior etc. As they get better at fighting individually and as a group they make cash with which they can pay trainers to teach them new skills or enhance the ones that they already have.

The OP starting around Ep 6 is quite good. I liked the show so much I picked up the light novels available in English and just finished volume 9.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Dies Irae on 01 March 2019, 21:07:18
Tatsunoko's capable of so much more than that. If that's all they can deliver for their 55th Anniversary Project, maybe they should just start packing it in now...

Well. Egao no Daika looks to be well on the route towards my cynical worst-case prediction.

I'm disappointed.

It had potential.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 06 March 2019, 11:12:28
Well, I'm a little worried now.

I just heard that Netflix is apparently producing a live-action adaptation of Cowboy Bebop.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 07 March 2019, 07:16:34
Well, I'm a little worried now.

I just heard that Netflix is apparently producing a live-action adaptation of Cowboy Bebop.
I wonder if it will work.  Seems like Western studios keep thinking they can do anime better either live or adapted for Western audiences.
Not many succeed.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 08 March 2019, 19:52:19
I wonder if it will work.  Seems like Western studios keep thinking they can do anime better either live or adapted for Western audiences.
Not many succeed.

They are doing them in live action because you still have the perception to large extent in the west that "animation = for kids"

They are picking the successful products because, well,  they are successful.  Notice they aren't doing adaptations of things that *aren't* well known or successful in the West?  They are looking for content to create and it's easier to adapt something than to create it out of whole cloth.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 10 March 2019, 17:11:03
Anyone else watching Fight League: Gear Gadget Generators (ファイトリーグ ギア・ガジェット・ジェネレーターズ) ? It's on Crunchyroll, on ep 4 now.

It's basically a new mobage adaption by XFLAG - the same guys who do the Monster Strike mobage adaption. 10-minute episodes, plot is somewhat limited and a hodgepodge of the usual plot hooks that you'd expect with the above title - as in they didn't just randomly take something out of the grab bag, they pretty much upended it and kicked the pile around a bit. Production is rather similar to MS (that's a positive), art style is mostly unmodified 3DCG. Animation done by BN Pictures - as in the kid-targeted studio of Sunrise; staff has some connections with Battle Spirits series animated by them. Focus for FL:GGG is on overblown battles like with MS (50% of animation), though a bit more narrative here. Somewhat unusually professional full sound production (not just music) by TeddyLoid, and you do notice there's something like that going on if you concentrate on it a bit.

Personally like it for a quick inbetween fix.

Real downside is the translation quality of the sub by CR btw.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 11 March 2019, 08:55:39
I wonder if it will work.  Seems like Western studios keep thinking they can do anime better either live or adapted for Western audiences.
Not many succeed.
They are doing them in live action because you still have the perception to large extent in the west that "animation = for kids"
Japan keeps thinking they can do anime better as live action too, for the same general reasons. It's not just a Western stigma. Although for them, there's also an 'Anime is for creepy otaku' factor. Live Action is for 'real' properties.

Doesnt usually work out to well, IMO.

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 11 March 2019, 10:26:19
Most Japanese live-action adaptations of manga fall into similar categories as general Japanese television - romances, period dramas, & stupid gag comedies. Almost certainly the intent is to make the property work for the mainstream daytime TV audience. Production values tend to be pretty slim, but you can usually count on some Johnny's or AKB idol being cast in a major role to ensure at least a minimum number of viewers...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 11 March 2019, 12:03:36
there's also an 'Anime is for creepy otaku' factor.
I may have read that applies for idols [are for creepy otaku] too.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 12 March 2019, 09:38:55
Okay. Playing catch-up: Castlevania part two was epic. Binged it in a night. Don't get to do that often.

Question: Is {insert anime title here} any good?

X being the following:
- Expelled from Paradise
- Vampire Body Guard


Agh.  Had a couple more, but it's the morning and my memory fails.  (Need some eggs/breakfast.)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Maingunnery on 12 March 2019, 10:48:35

I can recommend Expelled from Paradise, a lot is very basic CGI, but it is a good action flick.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 12 March 2019, 16:52:15
Expelled fro Paradise was amazing - best CG anime out there save maybe Land of the Lustrous!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 12 March 2019, 20:50:32
Watched Gall Force tonight. It was good to take a trip down memory lane, however it also gave me a renewed appreciation for modern animation styles.  ;D
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 12 March 2019, 20:59:35
I can recommend Expelled from Paradise, a lot is very basic CGI, but it is a good action flick.

My one major complaint about it is that I thought it needed some more setup in the middle to make the climax feel less contrived.  But it was good.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 12 March 2019, 22:25:45
Watched Gall Force tonight. It was good to take a trip down memory lane, however it also gave me a renewed appreciation for modern animation styles.  ;D
Hah, I've been watching Bubblegum Crisis OAVs here.  ARTMIC FOREVER!

More seriously, okay, BGC had a rough opening with animation but the opening of episode 5 was fantastic stuff for any era.  And the music is /eternal./
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 18 March 2019, 07:35:50

Just as a heads-up for those who were possibly interested in gen:LOCK but didn't want to subscribe to Rooster Teeth....  now that season 1 is completed the series is now on Crunchyroll
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 18 March 2019, 16:02:57
Since i know there's people here who regularly watch Precure:

The new one - Star Twinkle Precure - is way trippy.

And by that i mean a Flip Flappers meets Space-Patrol-Luluco kinda drug trip trippy. Just for five-year-olds. While referring to half a dozen anime series that five-year-olds shouldn't watch, starting with the obvious name for miss uchuujin. Even if it's antennae instead of a tail.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 19 March 2019, 10:26:45
Space Elf is best new Precure.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Luciora on 19 March 2019, 10:35:47
Some things should have stayed in the 90s.

https://deadline.com/2019/03/warrior-nun-alba-baptista-star-toya-turner-tristan-ulloa-cast-netflix-drama-series-1202577231/
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 19 March 2019, 23:22:28
They are doing them in live action because you still have the perception to large extent in the west that "animation = for kids"

They are picking the successful products because, well,  they are successful.  Notice they aren't doing adaptations of things that *aren't* well known or successful in the West?  They are looking for content to create and it's easier to adapt something than to create it out of whole cloth.

As long as they don't try it with Trigun. Akira might work out better though, plenty of movies with similarities. If Bebop does get made and the trailers look good I would love to see it. Not enough scifi films anyway :-\
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 20 March 2019, 09:07:24
Some things should have stayed in the 90s.

https://deadline.com/2019/03/warrior-nun-alba-baptista-star-toya-turner-tristan-ulloa-cast-netflix-drama-series-1202577231/ (https://deadline.com/2019/03/warrior-nun-alba-baptista-star-toya-turner-tristan-ulloa-cast-netflix-drama-series-1202577231/)
Not to say the Warrior Nun Franchise couldn't be adapted, but from whats listed in the article is pretty much it in name only.

Otherwise...
Gundam.Info's Youtube channel has been updated with the start of the English Dub of Gundam Build Divers (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJV1h9xQ7Hx9WHCYf595sekfqetLmnSnq)! As of this post, the first 12 eps are uploaded. I've gone through the first ep and part of the second. The dub isn't bad so far.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 23 March 2019, 11:07:48
Watching The Price of Smiles, versus the opening episode of gen:Lock, and it's interesting to see the storytelling between two different cultures when it comes to war.  While the Japanese may have come out of a warrior culture, historically, it feels like they don't have one now, and they come at it innocently, and are horrified. And, you can see that in their writing and story plots.

Whereas, in American stories, war is another job, and isn't something to shy away from.  In a way, we do have a war culture built into our fabric, and you see it in the way military and even police shows are written and handled in America.

That's probably all I should say on that.

But, I'm liking both shows, so far.  I'm only 5 or 6 eps in on Price of Smiles, and already it's taken a War Story approach to the concept, and I hope they don't botch this up with something preachy at the end.

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 23 March 2019, 12:20:21
While the Japanese may have come out of a warrior culture, historically, it feels like they don't have one now, and they come at it innocently, and are horrified. And, you can see that in their writing and story plots.

Whereas, in American stories, war is another job, and isn't something to shy away from.  In a way, we do have a war culture built into our fabric, and you see it in the way military and even police shows are written and handled in America.
I recommend you anime Iron Blooded Orphans
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 24 March 2019, 12:42:11
Already watched the first season. It still rings different from Gen:Lock and other American-derived war stories.

In fact, you can see a difference in two related WWII movies directed by Clint Eastwood.  Letters From Iwo Jima and ... I'm drawing a blank on the other one. There is a difference in attitudes and mentalities from both sides which he managed to capture very well.  I do believe he had lots of consultation from the Japanese side of things.  (I watched and enjoyed both, btw.)

It's just interesting to see that Japanese and American stories are different even when tackling a similar subject.


Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 24 March 2019, 13:07:04
I just watched Gigguk's take on Domestic Girlfriend:
Quote
And this leads me to believe that the unreleased full title of the show is actually Domestic na Kanojo x Kanojo x Kanojo.

Don't look at me like that, I know you got that reference.
:toofunny:
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: grimlock1 on 25 March 2019, 07:54:47
I've been racking my brain for months trying to place a scene from an anime.  It was a Giant Robot/High School show.  One of the supporting males was a mecha geek named Shinji, and on many occasions, he says something stupid.  The supporting female turns to him and says, "Bad, Shinji.  No cookie." 

My brain keeps going to Evangelion, but Shinji wasn't the mecha geek there, and the only supporting female was Hikari and she wouldn't be so informal in her chastising.

ARRGHHH!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: DarkSpade on 25 March 2019, 09:48:12
Google says Full metal Panic, but I don't recall the line.

https://fullmetalpanic.fandom.com/wiki/Shinji_Kazama
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 25 March 2019, 09:54:05
Well, Egao no Daika/The Price of Smiles has ended, & while I don't think it was terrible & I have to say I expected a lot better from the director of Rinne no LaGrange & Tatsunoko for their 55th anniversary project. This was no Gatchaman CROWDS, that's for sure.

Of the two sides of the story, Stella Shining's narrative was the far better executed - her life struggles & the interactions with the other members of her squad seemed to flow much more naturally & were, if not always relatable, at least comprehensible. Princess Yuki spends the entire series as a titular monarch who is allowed zero agency up until the very end where she's suddenly allowed to make the most potentially dangerous & disruptive decision of all & yet no one of any importance moves to stop her. That Stella was willing to help her out of a desperate desire to end the war felt like a bit of a stretch, but not overly so, however, the utter lack of visible consequences from Yuki's actions (was that a gasoline powered tractor in the epilogue? Where the hell did THAT even come from?!) really seemed to cheapen the impact of the entire story, where instead of building on the sacrifices of all those who came before, the moral of the story seems to have been "if you'd just let the emotional teenagers act on their every impulse, adults wouldn't ruin everything". 

There was so much right with Egao no Daika - a beautiful, unique setting, well-written personal drama, & a plot that wasn't afraid to let every other character suffer the consequences of their actions except Yuki Soleil. It is that poor decision that has left me feeling the most disappointed by Egao no Daika, & it's definitely reduced my faith in Tatsunoko's comeback in the industry. At a time when Tatsunoko is still struggling to find a niche in the modern industry, the last thing they needed was to put so many resources into such a mediocre original project.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 25 March 2019, 10:01:17
(was that a gasoline powered tractor in the epilogue? Where the hell did THAT even come from?!)
WHUUT! :o
Gas powered tractor instead of diesel or fuel oil!!? Were those ever a thing in the first place? How many decades would have it been when last of such was made?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ruger on 25 March 2019, 10:03:02
Google says Full metal Panic, but I don't recall the line.

https://fullmetalpanic.fandom.com/wiki/Shinji_Kazama

When I googled the line, I came up with episode 14 of FMP for it...

Ruger
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: grimlock1 on 25 March 2019, 10:29:07
When I googled the line, I came up with episode 14 of FMP for it...

Ruger
Thanks folks!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 25 March 2019, 11:51:07
WHUUT! :o
Gas powered tractor instead of diesel or fuel oil!!? Were those ever a thing in the first place? How many decades would have it been when last of such was made?
Gas, diesel....I don't know tractors, but I know the exhaust meant it was a conventional internal combustion engine. Considering the setting up til now had established that chrars were the planet's only established power source & as the planet had only been terraformed within the last thousand years or so no fossil fuels would be present why would such a thing exist & what it would even run on? It just felt like a total cop-out to turn Yuki's decision into a too-easy solution. We're lead to believe in the camping episode that Yuki shutting off the chrars will revert humanity to the stone-age, & yet afterwards people keep right on living in cities, the government is stable & peaceable, & the environment recovers & people are farming with equipment previously thought impossible.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Maingunnery on 25 March 2019, 12:32:39
Gas, diesel....I don't know tractors, but I know the exhaust meant it was a conventional internal combustion engine. Considering the setting up til now had established that chrars were the planet's only established power source & as the planet had only been terraformed within the last thousand years or so no fossil fuels would be present why would such a thing exist & what it would even run on?
Soylent Oil.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 25 March 2019, 14:36:00
Gas powered tractor instead of diesel or fuel oil!!? Were those ever a thing in the first place? How many decades would have it been when last of such was made?
1970s, for reference.
as the planet had only been terraformed within the last thousand years or so no fossil fuels would be present
Just because a planet has been terraformed doesn't mean there wasn't some sort of carbon-based life before. Alternative would be burning other stuff, such as wood gas. Pretty common in the 40s, and farms in particular tended to use them up to the early 60s in Europe.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 25 March 2019, 20:18:04
If you have agriculture, you have the potential for biodiesel.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 25 March 2019, 20:44:31
If you have agriculture, you have the potential for biodiesel.

Sure, but we're not talking a 10 years later epilogue, here. Yuki hasn't visibly aged a day. The infrastructure wouldn't have just been pulled out of a broom closet somewhere along with the candles & mirrors.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 27 March 2019, 23:41:10
Watching The Price of Smiles, versus the opening episode of gen:Lock, and it's interesting to see the storytelling between two different cultures when it comes to war.  While the Japanese may have come out of a warrior culture, historically, it feels like they don't have one now, and they come at it innocently, and are horrified. And, you can see that in their writing and story plots.

I think there's more to it than that.  In Japanese military works (barring ones that take place in a feudal setting), the protagonist is always young and inexperienced.  I'm not sure I could name a single one where the protagonist wasn't on their first deployment.  They're almost universally naive and optimistic.  Meanwhile the top ranking officers are almost always glory-seeking warmongers who are driven by their own ambitions and have no concern for the nation or the troops they control.  In many anime, the generals of the army the main characters belong to are as big of antagonists as the enemy army is.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 28 March 2019, 09:20:51
I think there's more to it than that.  In Japanese military works (barring ones that take place in a feudal setting), the protagonist is always young and inexperienced.
VOTOMS springs to mind to counter that one. But it's a bit of a deliberate inversion of the norm. See also the titular mecha blowing up like popcorn, even when the main character drives it.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 28 March 2019, 10:08:48
Yeah, VOTOMS was made to deliberately buck the norm.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 28 March 2019, 10:10:53
VOTOMS springs to mind to counter that one. But it's a bit of a deliberate inversion of the norm.
Roosterboyed. Another one is Gate. LT Itami has gone through frikkin' Ranger and special forces training.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 28 March 2019, 10:51:25
Gate is basically the complete opposite of standard Japanese military anime in almost every way possible.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 28 March 2019, 10:56:01
Full Metal Panic? Not quite an all-out war-themed anime, but it comes close in particular in its last iteration. And at the point Sagara Sousuke is introduced at the beginning he'd been fighting for guerillas for literally half his life.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 28 March 2019, 11:12:53
Good one that. Another one is Jormungand
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 29 March 2019, 10:00:49
Last night I finally remembered that I've been meaning to watch Star Blazers (2013).  Fun series to start with.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Easy on 29 March 2019, 10:11:02
cleanup
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 29 March 2019, 20:44:46
I place this here as there is a topical relationship:

This is Popular Mechanic's listing of the 50 best Sci-Fi TV shows. Five of them are anime, and one of the anime is in the top 10!

https://www.popularmechanics.com/culture/movies/g156/the-50-greatest-sci-fi-tv-shows/?utm_source=facebook_arb&utm_medium=cpm&utm_campaign=arb_fb_fb_d_i_g156&fbclid=IwAR2PkezqG2Us3MI1wS1R3g68oiGO4pzOBAAB4U2QAb6RmKbQAK9q8_AeaOw
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 29 March 2019, 20:54:35
I didn't realize that Popular Mechanics was even still a thing.

I'd also dispute more than a few of those shows: Battlestar Galactica 2003 especially.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 29 March 2019, 22:13:46
Also considering that this is over a year & a 1/2 old, it is a very solid list.
It is surprising to see both BSGs in the list.

While I could see Eva as high on the list as it is, I'm surprised to see Yamato higher on the list than Bebop.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 29 March 2019, 22:35:45
It looked more like a group of guys sitting around the office decided to make a list of all their favorite sci fi shows.  I'm really surprised to see Voyager on the list at all.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 29 March 2019, 22:41:37
Yeah, that list was more than questionable? MST3K? Red Dwarf? Fun shows, perhaps, but not exactly true sci-fi. The absence of Gundam & Macross by people who clearly have at least a passing knowledge of anime is similarly glaring.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 29 March 2019, 22:54:16
There was a passing mention of Robotech/Macross in one of the anime entries, but I'll agree with that not being included on the list.
As to the Gundam franchise, while a number of non-UC series have had airings and followings, the original series itself never had serious traction in the US. I get that as maybe why that specific franchise didn't get included.
I mean look at their listings for the Star Trek shows. Though Enterprise should of been on the list (I don't believe STD was airing fully yet at the time of the article's posting), the majority of that properties' shows were included. If you take that into consideration, that might be why no Gundam series were included.

Just a thought...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 30 March 2019, 00:38:14
In Slime anime, a big bad dragon challenges a big bad spirit (obviously scared of the dragon) to play Shogi while laughing maniacally. What the Hell?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 30 March 2019, 01:15:39
RE: Price of Smiles - the Jeep/Tractor thing doesn't really bother me so much.  Probably dragged it out of some old-timer's garage.  After all, one thing we didn't see was an extensive view of how each side lived. It was dominantly about the war, and nice aerial views of formations of hoverbots duking it out with projectiles and blades.

After finishing that, my curiosity took me to Space Battleship Tiramisu.  That one is hilarious - in the same vein as Kill la Kill.  Ridiculous and over the top.  And, each episode is only 7 minutes, split into two arcs.  This isn't for everyone, but I binged the first arc and the side-view series. Easily looking forward to Zwei.

And, Gen:Lock was enjoyable, as well.  It looks like they might be set up for another season with the ending.  Would love to see a little more explanation of who the major players are and why they're at war.

All of them have got me thinking, which is good, because that's what I need to get writing again.

After that, I'm up in the air.  Should I do the third (fourth?) arc of Full Metal Panic?  Maybe, find where I left off with RWBY and continue on there?  Finish the second half of Iron-Blooded Orphans?  Finish the Naruto series from where Netflix left off?  Finish the Bleach series from where I left off?

Or, should I start something new, like watching the old Card Captor Sakura or some of the Gundam Build-Fighters?  Is Captain Earth worth pursuing?  Or, should I go fantasy and check out some of the other 'into another world' style shows.  Is Goblin Slayer rounded out as a series?

Choices, choices.  Suggestions?


Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 30 March 2019, 01:38:59
Or, should I go fantasy and check out some of the other 'into another world' style shows.  Is Goblin Slayer rounded out as a series?
Goblin Slayer will have second season later this year. Also nowadays it is a rare breed of fantasy anime which is NOT isekai.

[edit]
To elaborate further, Goblin Slayer is about one man's war against the most numerous and underestimated monsters. War is Hell and Goblin Slayer has every intent of making it so.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 30 March 2019, 03:31:53
MST3K? Red Dwarf? Fun shows, perhaps, but not exactly true sci-fi.
These guys put X-Files near the top, and that's even less "sci-fi".

The anime choices in it (NGE, SBY, GITS SAC, CB) are okayish as say an amateur introduction to sci-fi anime available and wider known in the USA, with that selection you also dip into all "branches" of usual scifi. I'd call Gatchaman in there maybe a bit questionable for genre, but i guess that covers the kids section.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 30 March 2019, 13:39:18
RE: Price of Smiles - the Jeep/Tractor thing doesn't really bother me so much.  Probably dragged it out of some old-timer's garage.  After all, one thing we didn't see was an extensive view of how each side lived. It was dominantly about the war, and nice aerial views of formations of hoverbots duking it out with projectiles and blades.

I think my comments regarding Price of Smiles really got lost in the weeds - my point wasn't really the tractor specifically, but the lack of cost associated with Yuki Soleil's decision in general. After all the people who've paid a hefty price to carry the story thus far, & after we're cautioned by everyone how potentially damaging & disasterous her decision would be, it just.....wasn't. It's incongruent with the established tone of the series & is logically inconsistent.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Maingunnery on 30 March 2019, 14:05:55
The current season is near the end, and although I only followed a couple of shows, here are my current thoughts/opinions:
Sword Art Online: Alicization - A good looking disappointment. 
Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken (That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime) - Not bad, but I had a hard time caring about it. Maybe it is more suited for binge watching.
Mahō Shōjo Tokushusen Asuka (Magical Girl Spec-Ops Asuka) - Watched it up to episode 8, then got tired of it.
Doukyonin wa Hiza, Tokidoki, Atama no Ue - I quickly ended up only liking the cat pov scenes, then I dropped it.
Kemurikusa - For me the male character felt too 'mentally challenged' it kept breaking the story for me.

Endro - The biggest surprise of the season, the animations & designs might be simplistic, but it has enough feels and substance to make up for it. 
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 30 March 2019, 14:37:07
Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken (That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime) - Not bad, but I had a hard time caring about it. Maybe it is more suited for binge watching.

It feels a lot like the series lost its momentum after the orc horde was defeated and has been struggling with what to do ever since.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ruger on 30 March 2019, 14:57:16
Picked up the first part of Space Battleship Yamato 2202 today...

Ruger
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 30 March 2019, 15:16:28
About That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime
It feels a lot like the series lost its momentum after the orc horde was defeated and has been struggling with what to do ever since.
World building with slice of life. Rimuru welcomes a demon lord and gains her help against flying monsters. Then he goes to another country to check on Shizu's young students and finds a way to save their lives. Is it really so hard to follow?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 30 March 2019, 15:17:44
It feels a lot like the series lost its momentum after the orc horde was defeated and has been struggling with what to do ever since.
The manga turns to worldbuilding at that point for the most part; the spinoffs that start around there even more so. That's also where the anime adaption started skipping major parts (in order to catch up to the manga) and setting odd counterfoci that oddly stretched out particular scenes versus deleting others.

Sword Art Online: Alicization - A good looking disappointment. 
Regardless, next season announced. October.

... disliked the art, personally.

Kemurikusa - For me the male character felt too 'mentally challenged' it kept breaking the story for me.
Ending was rushed in my opinion, especially once they revealed the "role change" between human and alien.
*shrug*
It sells. Like crazy. There's estimates that BD pre-sales for Kemurikusa are four times those of any other anime this season, with it consistently holding top spots on Amazon.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 30 March 2019, 15:29:51
As far as Alicization goes, is it that surprising that a second series was gonna be done?
Considering that the LNs for that overall arc was as long as everything up to that point combined...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 30 March 2019, 15:33:55
About That Time I Got Reincarnated as a SlimeWorld building with slice of life. Rimuru welcomes a demon lord and gains her help against flying monsters. Then he goes to another country to check on Shizu's young students and finds a way to save their lives. Is it really so hard to follow?

It's quite easy to follow.  It just skips around rapidly with little apparent emphasis on any particular plot and the teacher arc especially has been ignoring previous plots that were left unresolved (like the Harlequins).
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 30 March 2019, 15:36:53
It feels a lot like the series lost its momentum after the orc horde was defeated and has been struggling with what to do ever since.

Yeah, even though it was foreshadowed in Shizu's arc, going to raise the kids was such a drastic shift in the plot that it completely destroyed my enthusiasm for the show. Part of that is likely just that Rimuru Tempest himself is cute but largely the least interesting part of the community he built.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 30 March 2019, 15:49:12
Yeah, Rimuru's OP-but-nice routine was amusing for a while, but they're left without any meaningful growth options.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 30 March 2019, 16:11:05
the teacher arc especially has been ignoring previous plots that were left unresolved (like the Harlequins).
The anime and manga have adapted the first three arcs of the original webnovel, the first four volumes of the light novel. The Harlequins are resolved in the tenth arc of the WN, which hasn't been adapted in the LN yet (should be next, volume 15+).

P.S.: Certain major such unresolved plot hooks (like the Empire pondering invasion) are foreshadowings of sort, which later get adapted into full arcs that would easily span 6-8 episodes of an anime. They could have sanitized those given it's unlikely the anime would ever get there, but it's sorta nice they mostly left them in.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Darth Nichos on 31 March 2019, 12:28:14
So just finished Fate/Apocrypha and enjoyed it greatly; though is it related to the other series of an AU of sorts?

Also I am confused by Unlimited Blade Works; I watched Zero and Fate/Stay so I am unsure if this is another AU
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 31 March 2019, 13:11:31
Also I am confused by Unlimited Blade Works; I watched Zero and Fate/Stay so I am unsure if this is another AU

The original visual novel (game) of Fate/Stay Night had three routes roughly depending upon the heroine - Fate (Saber), Unlimited Blade Works (Rin), & Heaven's Feel (Sakura). It is essentially the same story as Fate but with a different outcome & a different love interest for Shiro. You'll quickly find that there is no "canon" per se in Fate. The closest you'll get is Fate/Zero is pretty officially the precursor to the three Fate/Stay Night routes.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 31 March 2019, 13:16:32
Fate/Stay Night (the original visual novel game) had three principal routes.
All other iterations are full AUs created later:
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 31 March 2019, 13:23:38
  • Fate/Stay Night (the anime) adapt the first route. Fate/Zero and Fate/hollow ataraxia are prequels and sequels to this version, Lord El-Melloi II Sei no Jikenbo was later inserted inbetween the Fate/Zero prequel and Fate/Stay Night. The Himuro no Tenchi Fate/School Life manga also belongs to this version.

I'm pretty sure hollow ataraxia is a universe that's a blend of all three routes & Kinoko Nasu told everyone "It’s best if you don’t think too much about it"
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 31 March 2019, 13:27:45
Kinoko Nasu told everyone "It’s best if you don’t think too much about it"
I think that's the way to go about it for the whole Fate universe.

If you would want to think about it you can spot some similarities to UBW in Kaleid Liner and some similarities to HF in Kyou no Gohan too, while say Fate/Extra is the Fate-ified version of Donkey Kong...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Darth Nichos on 31 March 2019, 13:29:30
Ok, these explanations make sense now; it never occurred to me to come at this franchise from a gaming perspective per say than a single story element

So Apocrypha is full AU then? A shame since watching a future Mordred/Arthur fight as Heroic Spirits during a Grail War would have been enjoyable
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 31 March 2019, 14:46:33
Well, it's called "Apocrypha" right there in the title, so you shouldn't be too surprised, I'd hope?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 31 March 2019, 14:55:12
A shame since watching a future Mordred/Arthur fight as Heroic Spirits during a Grail War would have been enjoyable
Wait for Fate/Grand Order then, it goes along those lines somewhat... well, not really. Time-travelling mage participating in Grail War.

Apocrypha was originally planned as a game, but was never realized and instead dumped into a light novel adaption. The game project was later rebooted as Grand Order with a somewhat revamped story line.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 31 March 2019, 20:13:45
At season's end there were only two anime whose next episodes I truly awaited with anticipation: Shield Hero and Quintessential Quintuplets. I would add The Promised Neverland to that list but I will have to go back and catch up with it, but I did like it, I just decided to wait and marathon it.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 31 March 2019, 21:15:24
Another relatively weak season, to be sure.

Just waiting on Toaru Majutsu no Index III to end, & I'm completely done. Glad we finally finished the original LN run as anime for what it's worth, but rushed pacing is an understatement! JC Staff should have just pulled all of Hayabusa & Accelerator's story so at least Toma & Index's story could have gotten something that resembled proper pacing (I know, I know, never going to happen, they're too popular xp )!

Best series of the season were probably Endro!, the cute Milky Holmes-style fantasy adventure series that never failed to deliver charms, laughs, & smiles, & Kaguya-sama ga Kokurasetai, the laugh-out-loud stand-out comedy of the season that even managed to stick a touching ending to boot! I was initially skeptical of Kaguya-sama from the beginning since the premise was so trite, but once again execution has proven to be everything!  :o ;)

I don't think there's any further need to elaborate on my disappointment with Egao no Daika or Tensura, I feel like I've more than covered that already.

I watched Girly Air Force expecting it to be a solid B- & it never once made me question that assessment.

Net positive, Gotobun no Hanayome/Quintessential Quintuplets was a cute, if ultimately aimless shonen love comedy a la Nisekoi, & Date A Live 3's final episode was a really amusing role-reversal! The Magnificent Kotobuki turned into a fun series as well with plenty of good air combat scenes, despite the somewhat jarring combination of CG & hand-drawn animation that often left random side characters looking sharper and more attractive than the main cast.

Speaking CGI, of the 2nd season of Bang Dream! managed to be even better than the first, becoming the other highlight of the season for me! Expanding the focus out to include the other bands kept Kasumi's idiocy from utterly derailing the narrative like in season 1. The music was wonderful as always, & the motion-capture for the performances was pretty sharp! Unfortunately, even here anime has yet to make the transition to full CG feel natural - while the performances were excellent, many of the day to day scenes still seemed to give off a bit of an unnatural & stilted impression.

As for next season, I have to admit I'm at a bit of a loss for what to watch. Spring 2019 is the smallest anime season since at least 2013, possibly earlier.
I'll probably watch Fruits Basket, Ikuhara's butt-robbing Kappa anime Sarazanmai, & Doga Kobo's Sewayaki Kitsune no Senko-san, but beyond that it'll be pretty touch & go! I'm open to any suggestions that aren't OPM, SAO & SNK!  ;D
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 01 April 2019, 13:14:02
Another relatively weak season, to be sure.
I can't agree on that. Magical Girl Spec-Ops Asuka is a deconstructed magical girl equivalent of Goblin Slayer and is right up there with Puella Magi Madoka Magika. 7 episodes down, 5 more ahead. That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime is an above average isekai fantasy anime I enjoyed to watch. There are more promising anime which I'll get on with it now that all episodes are out.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 01 April 2019, 14:48:31
Magical Girl Spec-Ops Asuka is a deconstructed magical girl equivalent of Goblin Slayer and is right up there with Puella Magi Madoka Magika.

You'll have to forgive my overwhelming skepticism, but Dark Magical Girl trying to be Madoka is the new Emo-Piloted Mecha trying to be Evangelion. It's a genre flooded with mediocre & disappointing works. Yuki Yuna wa Yusha de Aru is the closest thing I've seen to another Madoka, & it doesn't particularly bill itself as "dark".
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Post by: Darth Nichos on 01 April 2019, 22:40:44
Well, it's called "Apocrypha" right there in the title, so you shouldn't be too surprised, I'd hope?

True; but again i was trying to put everything in a single timeline

I do have to say this is quite the gem of a franchise; glad I can catch it all they netflix, hulu, and crunchyroll
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Post by: Matti on 01 April 2019, 23:05:49
You'll have to forgive my overwhelming skepticism, but Dark Magical Girl trying to be Madoka is the new Emo-Piloted Mecha trying to be Evangelion.
I didn't know Asuka tries to be Madoka anymore than Goblin Slayer is trying to be Berserk :screw_loose:
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Post by: Ghostbear_Gurdel on 02 April 2019, 06:10:38
I didn't know Asuka tries to be Madoka anymore than Goblin Slayer is trying to be Berserk :screw_loose:
I think what he means is that they are aiming for the same niche in the market but that the follow on shows do not live up to the original.

Which is probably true, I enjoyed Asuka, but after the first few episodes some of what it seemed to be trying to do kinda fell apart. As far as "dark magical girl" stories go Madoka has not really been superseded in quality, and i believe that the argument is that if you want good "dark magical girl" go watch the 'original', ie Madoka, rather than a bad attempt at the same genre.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 02 April 2019, 06:15:38
I didn't know Asuka tries to be Madoka anymore than Goblin Slayer is trying to be Berserk :screw_loose:

You were the first one to compare them in the same sentence, not I. When I say "trying to be Madoka"  I mean trying to be an edgy deconstruction of magical girl anime, which it undoubtedly is, even by your own explanation.
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Post by: Istal_Devalis on 02 April 2019, 12:03:00
Asuka couldnt make up its mind whether it wanted to be trashy grindhouse, or a serious take on the matter. Which is how we get the tone whiplash of our 'Heroes' torturing a suspect who they KNOW has no information 'to make sure', jumping to lesbian sex, jumping to fluffy slice of life shenanigans.

And seriously, the entire torture porn fetish that show has takes all the fun out of it.
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Post by: Matti on 02 April 2019, 14:49:12
i believe that the argument is that if you want good "dark magical girl" go watch the 'original', ie Madoka, rather than a bad attempt at the same genre.
Seen it already. More please! Is Magical Girl Raising Project better than Asuka?


You were the first one to compare them in the same sentence, not I. When I say "trying to be Madoka"  I mean trying to be an edgy deconstruction of magical girl anime, which it undoubtedly is, even by your own explanation.
Well, yes. Same genre but with different taste.


Asuka couldnt make up its mind whether it wanted to be trashy grindhouse, or a serious take on the matter. Which is how we get the tone whiplash of our 'Heroes' torturing a suspect who they KNOW has no information 'to make sure', jumping to lesbian sex, jumping to fluffy slice of life shenanigans.
I recall Full Metal Panic! having most (if not all) of that... ::)
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Post by: Istal_Devalis on 04 April 2019, 12:05:31
I recall Full Metal Panic! having most (if not all) of that... ::)
...I didnt bring up FMP at all. Why are you implying that I said one is fine while the other isnt?
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Post by: Matti on 04 April 2019, 13:05:33
...I didnt bring up FMP at all.
No, you didn't.

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Why are you implying that I said one is fine while the other isnt?
I don't remember what you have said about FMP (if anything at all). But I swear some people in this forum have said something good about it.
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Post by: DarkSpade on 04 April 2019, 17:01:51
I'm an FMP fan.   :thumbsup:
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Post by: kato on 05 April 2019, 15:42:52
The season is off to a surprisingly good start for me, including:
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Post by: mdauben on 06 April 2019, 02:43:24
I just got Crunchyroll's line up for the new season, and I gotta say I don't see anything that excites me.  Pretty bland season.  :(
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Post by: Matti on 06 April 2019, 09:39:01
I'm an FMP fan.   :thumbsup:
In that case I recommend you Magical Girl Spec-Ops Asuka. Give it a try if you haven't already.
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Post by: Darth Nichos on 06 April 2019, 19:40:04
Finished Fate/Stay Unlimited Blade Works; quite enjoyed it and liked it slightly better than the original series. Is Fate/Extra Last Encore worth a watch?
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Post by: Top Sergeant on 06 April 2019, 20:44:23
I just got Crunchyroll's line up for the new season, and I gotta say I don't see anything that excites me.  Pretty bland season.  :(

I agree. I was hoping that they would be carrying Fairy Gone but it wasn't listed when I checked last week.
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Post by: Matti on 07 April 2019, 00:24:52
I agree. I was hoping that they would be carrying Fairy Gone but it wasn't listed when I checked last week.
Let's see... (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_Gone)
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Funimation has licensed the series
So try Funimation then. Good for you, because Funi don't stream to Finland :ticked:
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Post by: kato on 07 April 2019, 02:30:58
Finished Fate/Stay Unlimited Blade Works; quite enjoyed it and liked it slightly better than the original series. Is Fate/Extra Last Encore worth a watch?
I liked it personally, but beware that it's a completely different art style and storytelling style (and story) that only uses the Fate character set... to a limited extent.
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Post by: Matti on 07 April 2019, 10:16:38
Amazon seems to have at least 1 DVD copy of Violet Evergarden anime available. Language is Japanese, subtitles in English, Chinese, and Malay, all regions, and photo of back cover has some VSTARZ ENTERTAINMENT. Is this legit?

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Seller is Down & Down Co. Ever heard of it? Or VSTARZ ENTERTAINMENT?
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Post by: kato on 07 April 2019, 11:02:59
Is this legit?
The DVD claims to have 13 "volumes" on it with a runtime of 350 minutes on a single disc. And is all regions. That's about as far as you need to look to know what kinda thing that is even if you didn't mention the company. And yes, the company cited as a producer (VStarz Enterprise, not VStarz Entertainment) is legit in the sense of existing. That's Malaysian IP rights for ya.
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Post by: Darth Nichos on 07 April 2019, 11:53:41
Sounds like a bootleg to me; I am pretty sure Violet Evergarden was co produced by Netflix so don't be surprised that all current dvds are bootlegs
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Post by: Matti on 07 April 2019, 13:42:39
runtime of 350 minutes on a single disc.
Yes, I got that by fridge logic. Thanks for commentary anyway.

Otherwise I'm thinking about going for Shield Hero. Can someone in here give me an overview about differences between the novels, manga, and anime, and which do you recommend most?

As by an example, I give my summary about Konosuba. Novels were first and are by far the most comprehensive in the franchise. Anime makes some cuts (Wiz and some other side characters are introduced by way of narration) and alterations (boss fight at end of Hot Springs arc), but also enhances some scenes (cabbage harvest). I recommend both of them. Manga (first volume at least) makes cuts without adding anything new. I don't recommend that one.
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Post by: Tymers Realm on 07 April 2019, 23:20:24
Amazon seems to have at least 1 DVD copy of Violet Evergarden anime available. Language is Japanese, subtitles in English, Chinese, and Malay, all regions, and photo of back cover has some VSTARZ ENTERTAINMENT. Is this legit?

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Seller is Down & Down Co. Ever heard of it? Or VSTARZ ENTERTAINMENT?
I'd say bootleg. I just looked at ANN's page on VE (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=19665) and didn't see that company's name anywhere.Now it looks like there's Australia & UK Distributors who have rights...
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Post by: Wrangler on 08 April 2019, 11:10:49
Being not normally a Netflix subscriber, i hadn't seen this before. 

There series of animated shorts called, Love, Death & Robots. Think of this (if your old school anime fan), a modern version of Robot Carnival anthology anime (film) broken up in series of shorts instead.  While i've only seen to episodes, i'd like steer people watch short story "Suits".  This is a Mecha premise sort story.  I won't say much aside i can assure you will enjoy it if your Battletech player.  Its humorist for certain, but it's solid.  8)
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Post by: Tymers Realm on 08 April 2019, 13:12:12
Being not normally a Netflix subscriber, i hadn't seen this before. 

There series of animated shorts called, Love, Death & Robots. Think of this (if your old school anime fan), a modern version of Robot Carnival anthology anime (film) broken up in series of shorts instead.  While i've only seen to episodes, i'd like steer people watch short story "Suits".  This is a Mecha premise sort story.  I won't say much aside i can assure you will enjoy it if your Battletech player.  Its humorist for certain, but it's solid.  8)

And there's a good thread discussing it right here (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=64767.0).
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Post by: Matti on 08 April 2019, 23:08:35
Otherwise I'm thinking about going for Shield Hero. Can someone in here give me an overview about differences between the novels, manga, and anime, and which do you recommend most?
Anyone?
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Post by: Wrangler on 09 April 2019, 08:13:56
Anyone?
I haven't seen the show yet, i hope its decent. Ive been following the original manga series (for some reason it's weird side-story/alternate reality).
Lordy i hope it's not going way of some manga adaptions and kills the manga after airing.
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Post by: Ghostbear_Gurdel on 10 April 2019, 00:51:33
Otherwise I'm thinking about going for Shield Hero. Can someone in here give me an overview about differences between the novels, manga, and anime, and which do you recommend most?
I am really enjoying The Rising of the Shield Hero anime, however i have not read the manga so cannot comment on differences. That said, the story has been outstanding in my opinion, and is a bit refreshing to see this take on Iseki. I can really get behind the main character's brand of Pragmatism.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 13 April 2019, 17:12:45
Anime hasn't caught up to the manga. Beyond that, I have enjoyed both so far.
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Post by: Matti on 13 April 2019, 17:17:20
Anime hasn't caught up to the manga. Beyond that, I have enjoyed both so far.
Does anime make any significant cuts, changes, or censorship?
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Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 13 April 2019, 19:31:49
Does anime make any significant cuts, changes, or censorship?
https://youtu.be/pFhs6QToMJ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz7ABNxmuNw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfJ3-DiDhp0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItN4DuY78LM
 Nothing about  Episode 7 and 8 from that channel.
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Post by: Matti on 14 April 2019, 12:00:19
And you thought Goblin Slayer is fantasy equivalent of Doomguy?

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/goblin-slayer/images/9/90/Hero_and_Doom_Slayer.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20190404190402)
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Post by: Wrangler on 15 April 2019, 06:20:46
I haven't watched the anime, is that from it?
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Post by: Matti on 15 April 2019, 09:43:17
I haven't watched the anime, is that from it?
No. It's from light novel. Anime has colours. Girl in pic is Hero.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 15 April 2019, 13:09:03
That obscure classic of the early 2000s, Haruhi Suzumiya...
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Post by: Matti on 15 April 2019, 13:41:37
That obscure classic of the early 2000s, Haruhi Suzumiya...
Wut? ???

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I haven't forgotten about Melancholy of Harumi Suzumiya, but why do you bring her up?
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Post by: Ghostbear_Gurdel on 15 April 2019, 14:07:28
that picture looks a lot like Haruhi, what with the ribbon and all.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 16 April 2019, 14:16:49
One of the greats has passed.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-04-16/lupin-iii-creator-monkey-punch-passes-away/.145797

The creator of the extremely popular and long-lived Lupin III franchise died on the 11th from pneumonia.  A huge selection of films, TV series, and one of the best action movies ever made - whether Spielberg said it or not about Castle of Cagliostro, it's still true.
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Post by: Tymers Realm on 16 April 2019, 14:23:18
Damn...
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Post by: Wrangler on 17 April 2019, 05:52:20
That's terrible loss.
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Post by: Foxx Ital on 17 April 2019, 08:18:38
Sad to hear.

 
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Post by: Matti on 17 April 2019, 12:49:20
About picture of Doomguy & Hero comparison:
that picture looks a lot like Haruhi, what with the ribbon and all.
I can see likeness. Maybe Goblin Slayer's author or illustrator wanted to do double homage or something? Fan(s) of Haruhi, so he/they made Hero to resemble her, then they read Goblin Slayer compared to Doom(guy) and came up with that. Maybe to remind the readers who is the real badass of the story (https://goblin-slayer.fandom.com/wiki/Hero).
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Post by: Matti on 18 April 2019, 15:00:47
I just read that Goblin Slayer's English voice actor is the one who did motion capture for Doom Slayer. No shit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Hawkins)
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Post by: Tymers Realm on 24 April 2019, 09:47:45
Now this is interesting...
ANN has posted a article (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-04-24/granbelm-anime-streams-1st-10-minutes-reveals-more-cast-and-july-5-debut/.146061) about a July Magic/Mecha-type series called Granblem. The article also includes a link for ep 1's first 10 minutes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-Ybu1E79vY) streamed via youtube. I'll admit, this might be interesting.
The Mecha themselves seem to be SD-styled and more 2D rendered than "Oh looK! I'm full CGI" rendered. I'm intrigued.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 24 April 2019, 11:16:09
Looks astounding cute, & the staff is promising. Will give it a go when it airs in July!
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Post by: Matti on 24 April 2019, 11:22:42
MadCapellan! Been a while since your last post (of what I have seen). I already thought you might have got overrun by a truck and reincarnated in fantasy world. May I have your attention in this topic over here (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=64860.0)? It's about tsundere and isekai.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 24 April 2019, 12:22:10
I'm afraid I wouldn't have a lot to add - as much as I love tsunderes, I honestly dislike the deconstruction of every character trait & story element into some sort of interchangeable cookie-cutter trope. Tsundere to me is like a musical movement - it's a style of character development where a character's pre-existing values & expectations come into conflict with their emotions & they ultimately resolve in an evolution of the character. Boiling it down to "angry girl is secretly nice inside" & turning it into just another archetype to check the box for in a love comedy cast has resulted in a lot of disappointing characters that mimic the mannerisms of tsundere with little of the charm. I'd rather not view my fiction or its characters as just a collection of pre-existing blocks strung together, but rather as a holistic artistic expression of their creators. Nothing of artistic merit is so easily expressed, and trying to force it to be is a disservice to the artists who created it.
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Post by: Matti on 24 April 2019, 13:59:29
I'd rather not view my fiction or its characters as just a collection of pre-existing blocks strung together, but rather as a holistic artistic expression of their creators. Nothing of artistic merit is so easily expressed, and trying to force it to be is a disservice to the artists who created it.
I'm pretty sure Red has emphasized that in her videos, at least to the point that doing it [character trope] in the right way isn't an easy feat and much goes wrong about it.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 24 April 2019, 18:19:36
On that note, mc, I need to pick thru your brains later
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Post by: Istal_Devalis on 26 April 2019, 09:51:18
Now that everything's settled, I havent had an anime season this light in quite a while. Nothing much has grabbed my interest, or it's all on various sites where I cant watch without hoisting the jolly roger.

Thing's I'm watching (That arent continuations from last season)
Midnight Occult Civil Servants: I make it a point to watch a series if it features adults as opposed to teenagers. So far I'm entertained. They're pulling a nice distribution of folklore. I never expected to see Huehuecoyotl in an anime.

Helpful Fox Senko-san: Fluff! Fluuuuuuuuff. I will admit it's a bit empty of content, but cute fox loli-baba is adorable and comfy.

Isekai Quartet:Well, I watched and enjoyed three out of those four shows so. It's amusing me. I would like to see more comedy fighting though.

Fruits Basket: I never watched the previous version. Always seemed like something I should have watched but never got around to it. So far...well it's definitely 90s shoujou. Its keeping me entertained enough for the moment, we'll see.

Strike Witches: Take Off: Ooph. I'd probably drop it if the season was busier. I realize they're exaggerating character traits for comedy purposes, but everyone seems wildly out of character because of it.

Wiseman's Grandchild: Mostly harmless. I'd have picked Maria, personally. Has some issues with tonal shifts.

Demon Slayer: Beautiful, violent and dark. Not quite as far in that direction as Dororo, but still really good. Nezuko's kinda adorable too.

Amazing Stranger: It's watchable. I have concerns but we'll see how it goes. Major wish fulfillment though.

Star Twinkle Precure: Cute Space Elves make everything better-lun. I would watch this just for Lala and her adorable verbal tics-lun.
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Post by: kato on 26 April 2019, 10:08:26
I'm only watching 5 out of those 9.

Also doing:
- that Nagoya advertisement and Cinderella Girls Theater, both for the 3-minute fluff.
- One Punch Man, even if first season was better.
- Yu-No just for sake of ELF. Borderline droppable for me.
- Hitoribocchi and Ao-chan, though both not for the main character.
- Joshikausei, for the concept of a silent anime.
- Nobunaga Teacher's Young Bride, though i don't really know why.

Favourites this season though are Senryuu Girl (even if it's tropey as hell - they still pull it off nicely) and Nande Koko ni Sensei ga (even if it rides on that single line - with the original actually being a series of oneshot mangas based on the line).
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Post by: Daemion on 03 May 2019, 12:53:41
I think my comments regarding Price of Smiles really got lost in the weeds - my point wasn't really the tractor specifically, but the lack of cost associated with Yuki Soleil's decision in general. After all the people who've paid a hefty price to carry the story thus far, & after we're cautioned by everyone how potentially damaging & disasterous her decision would be, it just.....wasn't. It's incongruent with the established tone of the series & is logically inconsistent.

Okay. I see what you're getting at.  However, I would posit that it wasn't as drastic as it might seem due to the nature of their power sources.  The impression I got was that the 'free energy' was actually killing the processes that made life possible on the planet.  So, while they were losing out on free electricity, plants were able to grow in abundance again.  So, it was kind of a trade-off.

But, beyond that, I agree that there should have been a year, at least, of absolute devastation and hardship.  The problem we're looking at here is the show is trying to appeal to a particular crowd, but expose them to a different theme not normally found in the kind of show they watch, and still have a happy, feel-good ending. So, they gloss some things over.  I could tell from the start that this show wasn't meant to be gritty realistic, though they try to tackle 'War is Bad', simply due to the nature of the lead characters in the first ep, and the fact that there was a narrator to explain things. So, I knew, in spite of the general theme, to expect something of a light tone.

I'm not trying to defend their decision.  In fact, I feel a lot of shows have been getting an overcorrection from the morbid horror style skull-****** endings of the 80s and 90s, giving a bit of a too-positive aspect to the hero-team dynamic, which is taking away from what could be if the story was a little more level-headed/handed.  That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime is another show that, though I enjoyed it, came away a little too easy for the protagonist. But, like Knights and Magic, I take it for what it is.

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Post by: MadCapellan on 03 May 2019, 13:51:33
The problem we're looking at here is the show is trying to appeal to a particular crowd, but expose them to a different theme not normally found in the kind of show they watch, and still have a happy, feel-good ending. So, they gloss some things over.  I could tell from the start that this show wasn't meant to be gritty realistic, though they try to tackle 'War is Bad', simply due to the nature of the lead characters in the first ep, and the fact that there was a narrator to explain things. So, I knew, in spite of the general theme, to expect something of a light tone.

While Egao no Daika wasn't a graphic, grimdark tragedy, I don't feel you can portray a series that kills one of its two lead characters episode 3 & carries on having named characters tragically sacrifice their lives right up to the finale as "light in tone".

For ten straight episodes, characters we had been encouraged to empathize with on both sides of the conflict were killed in combat, ostensibly because it was necessary for a better future. Yuki herself was portrayed as a sheltered, naive girl who had to be protected by these sacrifices, and yet, in the end her whimsical decision to pull the plug on the established infrastructure turned out to be a consequence-free ticket to utopia & everyone who came before died a meaningless death to prevent this gifted child from making the reflexive right decision. I can't help but feel the result is nothing other than the narrative jumping the track...
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Post by: Daemion on 03 May 2019, 16:11:45
It could also be they simply ran out of time/funding/what-have-you, and couldn't portray the aftermath in what is a one-shot series, and went with the 'happy ending' as a cop-out.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 03 May 2019, 16:22:59
It could also be they simply ran out of time/funding/what-have-you, and couldn't portray the aftermath in what is a one-shot series, and went with the 'happy ending' as a cop-out.

Sure, & considering the state of both Tatsunoko & the industry at large, it's quite possible that the finale was an unfortunate result of circumstances. It just doesn't change that it was a very disappointing finale to a promising series, & I know Tatsunoko was capable of better.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 03 May 2019, 17:15:37
Just started My Roommate Is a Cat.
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Post by: Daemion on 06 May 2019, 08:29:44
Sure, & considering the state of both Tatsunoko & the industry at large, it's quite possible that the finale was an unfortunate result of circumstances. It just doesn't change that it was a very disappointing finale to a promising series, & I know Tatsunoko was capable of better.

I won't fault you for that.  That's been a thing in all kinds of entertainment, lately. We should hold their feet to the fire.
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Post by: Matti on 06 May 2019, 23:11:20
Almost done and through with BanG Dream! Lyrics are song by others than voice actresses. In didn't notice difference with Love Live and K-ON!, but with BanG Dream! I find it bit jarring.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 07 May 2019, 09:06:48
Almost done and through with BanG Dream! Lyrics are song by others than voice actresses. In didn't notice difference with Love Live and K-ON!, but with BanG Dream! I find it bit jarring.

Uuhh, no, the seiyuu for singing & talking are the same. Poppin' Party & Roselia even play their own instruments.
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Post by: Matti on 07 May 2019, 11:31:44
Uuhh, no, the seiyuu for singing & talking are the same. Poppin' Party & Roselia even play their own instruments.
Huh, no shit? ??? Singing voices sound so different to me
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Post by: DarkSpade on 07 May 2019, 11:32:12
Finally started watching the new FMP. Am I hearing things or did they change out like 90% of the original dub cast?
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Post by: kato on 07 May 2019, 11:40:16
English or Japanese dub?
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Post by: DarkSpade on 07 May 2019, 13:03:40
English
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Post by: MadCapellan on 07 May 2019, 13:40:12
Huh, no shit? ??? Singing voices sound so different to me

I'm honestly kinda thrown by your assessment, because I find them really easy to pick out by voice when they're performing, & I can't say that about a lot of anison groups! Aimi who voices Kasumi has the cutest little vibrato in her voice that I really love! :smitten:
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Post by: kato on 07 May 2019, 16:00:40
Am I hearing things or did they change out like 90% of the original dub cast?
Just checked the cast for the English dub and nope, it's all the same people as in the other seasons.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 07 May 2019, 17:18:38
Just checked the cast for the English dub and nope, it's all the same people as in the other seasons.

It's only been a decade. People's voices can change a lot in that kind of time, unfortunately.
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Post by: DarkSpade on 07 May 2019, 18:04:17
I guess it makes sense.  If it's not their natural speaking voices, it could be tough to get back into the voice too.
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Post by: Daemion on 13 May 2019, 09:24:35
Quick question: Did they finish the Dub for My Hero Academia Season 3? That show is full of all kinds of visuals, and would hate to miss something because I'm trying to read the dialogue.

 
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Post by: Matti on 14 May 2019, 13:55:11
Mysteria Friends episode #9 cracked me up:
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My god, how can two princesses cause so many problems?!
:lol:
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Post by: DarkSpade on 14 May 2019, 18:00:07
Finished FMP4.  While I didn't expect it to wrap up the whole series, I sure as hell didn't expect it to be so open ended either.  The new mech was a little too convenient too.  And maybe a little too powerful.  I mean, what's a threat to them at this point?  Not that it needs a spoiler tag.  It's in the opening credits.  ::)
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Post by: Matti on 16 May 2019, 15:26:59
Gigguk over YouTube has a video titled The Death of Classic Anime, where he explains why new anime don't qualify as classics. He curses a lot and has scenes from GITS movie and other NSFW material, so I don't link here, but you can look it up. To sum up the video:
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We've been spoilt for choice and it kind of shows when I think this spring season is kind of weak just because it only has two shows I'm super hyped for and five shows I think are pretty good. Ge-ge GET OUT OF HERE!
How many good anime shows did we have in 1990's in a weak season? :screw_loose:

With that said, I argue some recent anime can qualify as classics. At least Goblin Slayer for fans curb-stomping the made-up outrage. That was epic.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 16 May 2019, 16:44:38
Does he also complain about the kids on his lawn? ::)
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Post by: MadCapellan on 16 May 2019, 19:13:56
Gigguk over YouTube has a video titled The Death of Classic Anime, where he explains why new anime don't qualify as classics. He curses a lot and has scenes from GITS movie and other NSFW material, so I don't link here, but you can look it up. To sum up the video:How many good anime shows did we have in 1990's in a weak season? :screw_loose:

I've been listening to this same, sad, tired "Why no more Cowboy Bebop? lament for nearly two decades now....  :D
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Post by: Top Sergeant on 16 May 2019, 22:23:51
We do have new classics, although that often is not apparent until some time has passed.

One of the key attributes for a classic, to me, is how often it gets re-watched. An anime can be a very good one, but I think its the classics that are not only good but get watched over and over again by a broad spectrum of fans.
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Post by: Matti on 16 May 2019, 22:40:29
One of the key attributes for a classic, to me, is how often it gets re-watched. An anime can be a very good one, but I think its the classics that are not only good but get watched over and over again by a broad spectrum of fans.
That's what he says, and you sum it up well. He also says that instead of re-watching something from last year, people are more likely to watch something new because it is just as good or better than what was before. But he mentions Legend of the Galactic Heroes because it's over 100 episode epic which aren't made anymore.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 17 May 2019, 00:14:23
Does it really make sense to complain about the lack of "classics" from media produced in the last few years?  Classics are by definition something that get their designation after they're already old.
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Post by: kato on 17 May 2019, 02:13:46
Let's be realistic. What's termed "classics" in common parlance are simply anime produced by either Studio Deen, Gainax, Madhouse or Sunrise that were ported to the US. And that goes for literally all of them.

There are anime with commercial success in the US that aren't quite considered classics due to different target audience (...OLM), and there are anime with classics status outside the above group, also due to a somewhat different target audience (...Studio Ghibli) - but let's just ignore that.

I personally think that there are recent anime that have broken into the classics zone. One Punch Man for example. Love Live. Assassination Classroom. Log Horizon. Fate. It's not like there's been only mass spam produced in the last five to ten years.
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Post by: Charlie Tango on 17 May 2019, 20:35:10
We do have new classics, although that often is not apparent until some time has passed.

One of the key attributes for a classic, to me, is how often it gets re-watched. An anime can be a very good one, but I think its the classics that are not only good but get watched over and over again by a broad spectrum of fans.

I agree with this.  And I do think there are some newer anime that have the potential to become considered as "classics", but are either not done yet (so they still have the potential to go off the rails) or have not had yet enough time to truly allow for those rewatching cycles to really establish themselves.
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Post by: Top Sergeant on 18 May 2019, 11:02:34
My personal short list of anime which I believe will become to be considered classics, for varying reasons and not because I happen to like them:

-Toradora!

-Spice & Wolf

-A Place Further than the Universe

-Girls und Panzer

-Your Name


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Post by: DarkSpade on 18 May 2019, 12:39:12
I'd agree with you on spice and wolf if they had finished it.  I think over all I preferred it to the manga.  I was extremely disappointed that the manga only covered the whole pyrite plot in a single panel flash back.  It was one of the best parts of the whole anime.

Based on its success, I don't think too many would argue with you on Your Name.  Definitely one I regularly recommend to people.  I might be too pushy about it though.  I can't get anyone to watch it.  xp

Girls und Panzer is certainly a favorite of mine, but I don't know if I could argue for or against it being a future classic.

Never seen the other two.

How old does something have to be to be considered a classic anyway?  I'd say Ghost in the Shell is a classic, but the franchise is still alive and well. Does that stop it from being a classic?
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 18 May 2019, 13:25:07
GitS is a franchise, so individual works can be considered classics, like the original manga or Stand Alone Complex.
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Post by: Luciora on 18 May 2019, 15:03:01
Ugh. Wrong thread
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: DarkSpade on 18 May 2019, 20:40:00
Just got back from an unplanned Anime Central trip.  Spent way too much.  Like holy crap, what was I thinking.

Gate
Princess Principle
No Game No Life Zero
Girls Last Tour (fancy box)
Girls und Panzer PS4 game
Full Metal Panic PS4 game (didn't know this was a thing!)
kizuna ai shirt
One of those fancy effects sets for displaying figures.

I set out to find a Gabriel figure at one point, but it turns out the only one they make is $250 and dumb looking.
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Post by: Matti on 19 May 2019, 14:58:22
Frame Arms Girl movie inbound! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjXTi8xOJxM)
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Post by: DarkSpade on 19 May 2019, 15:23:19
When I first saw the model for the "tank" girl, my first thought was "damn, I really want to see an anime from this!"   After seeing the trailer for the show, I was quickly disappointed.  The movie trailer only furthers my disappointment.  Careful what you wish for I guess.  Or at least be more specific?

I did eventually get that model.  Slowly but surely getting it put together.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 20 May 2019, 08:15:58
Just got back from an unplanned Anime Central trip.  Spent way too much.  Like holy crap, what was I thinking.

Acen has a way of doing that!  ;D

Seeing as it was very much a Revue Starlight/IdolM@ster con, I was absolutely over the moon all weekend at Anime Central! Got a wall scroll signed by the director, asst. director, character designer & prop designer for Revue Starlight & saw their presentation on the making of the series, Sonoda's rough cut of the Riding Bean kickstarter OVA, & saw a ton of friends! It was so blindingly bright!

If you haven't seen it, Princess Principal is an awesome series, & Dream Tank Match is a real fun game! I hope you enjoy them as much as I have!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 21 May 2019, 23:09:42
In anime club meeting one of the members played Hi Score Girl through his Netflix account. Titular girl is a mute model student who makes regular visits to arcade. Protagonist is a guy though who gets regularly beaten and otherwise abused by the girl and others. As target of school bullying myself, I can't really empathize with this sort of thing. The games shown are real ones in their real names. First episode has Street Fighter II and Final Fight. That's all right, but bullying/abuse isn't.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 22 May 2019, 02:33:29
I've long been very uncomfortable with how regularly bullying and abuse are shown as either funny or somehow positive in a lot of anime.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 22 May 2019, 06:18:33
Like most things in anime, it's somebody's fetish, more accurately a great many somebodies. Despite having a relatively positive experience with Haganai, Yozora's treatment of Sena made me kind of uncomfortable, despite the joke being that Sena will put up with anything... :-\
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Post by: Matti on 22 May 2019, 13:13:25
At the moment I have long work days with little time for sleep, much less to watch anime. Nobunaga teacher's young bride has short episodes, so I went for it. First episode, teacher by name of Oda Nobunaga is pestered by his parents to get married and little sister is surprised to learn that teacher has interest for real girls. Enter a girl who claims to be teacher's wife and expresses her desire to have children. Parents accuse teacher for kidnapping, threaten to call police, and other BS. Is this supposed to be funny or something? :screw_loose:

Short with good bit of NSFW level fan service, so I might stick with this for some episodes more.
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Post by: Daemion on 22 May 2019, 15:35:20
I did wonder about the tastes of the characters reflecting the tastes of members of the dev team, and how well that might reflect on many japanese people in general.

I am waiting for one where the guy doesn't put up with abuse. 
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 22 May 2019, 15:46:27
I remember a story I read years ago that was in large part a parody of anime tropes.  The tsundere character hit someone on the head.  The resulting concussion almost killed him.
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Post by: Matti on 22 May 2019, 16:11:12
I am waiting for one where the guy doesn't put up with abuse.
I recommend you The Fruit of Grisaia & sequels and The Irregular at Magic High School
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Post by: MadCapellan on 22 May 2019, 16:34:27
My favorite alpha male in LN adapted anime is Raishin from Unbreakable Machine Doll. Man's an absolute boss!
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 22 May 2019, 17:09:21
I did wonder about the tastes of the characters reflecting the tastes of members of the dev team, and how well that might reflect on many japanese people in general.

I am waiting for one where the guy doesn't put up with abuse.
It's a thing in Japan, apparently.  But, a hypercompetitive collectivist mindset that you absolutely have to get through highschool and into college or a job, with all the social "clamp down on your feelings and sit on them" that go with it...makes a pretty damn fertile ground for victimization.  Shigofumi had a whole episode about this where it leads to a suicide, followed by the bullying team picking another victim who gets a letter from the dead kid asking how it feels...

...and the cycle continues.

Google "bullying in Japanese schools" to learn further, it's...not pretty.  And is probably toeing way too close to Rule 4 so I'll leave it at that.

As for "revealing the tastes of the members of the dev team" I'm just going to say Miru Tights.
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Post by: Matti on 23 May 2019, 14:27:43
I am waiting for one where the guy doesn't put up with abuse.
Goblin Slayer (https://i.redd.it/tboixuc2vyy11.png) is one more on the list. On manga front are at least Gunota (Gun-ota) and Maken no Daydreamer. First is deconstruction of fantasy based on role-playing games and other 2 are isekai of reincarnation variety.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 23 May 2019, 14:34:49
Okay, guys who don't take abuse but aren't total a-holes or outright villain protagonists.
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Post by: Matti on 23 May 2019, 14:57:02
Okay, guys who don't take abuse but aren't total a-holes or outright villain protagonists.
Lelouch in Code Geass
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Post by: MadCapellan on 23 May 2019, 15:23:46
 
Lelouch in Code Geass

  :toofunny: Easily one of the most villainous protagonists in anime!
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Post by: Weirdo on 23 May 2019, 15:33:11
Okay, guys who don't take abuse but aren't total a-holes or outright villain protagonists.

Lelouch in Code Geass

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9edyqSPIb1r0hqyw.jpg)

I know it's been a while since I watched that show, but... isn't that the literal, extreme, exact opposite of what's being asked for here?  ???
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Post by: Charlie Tango on 23 May 2019, 16:00:55

Well, I finally finished up Food Wars and then decided to dive into Darling in the Franxx to see what all that controversy was about...

...

Now after  :bang: at that ending, I need... something else.  Something not either of those.


Hulu just added a bunch of series and two of them caught my eye from the recent good things I've heard about both.  Kaguya-sama: Love is War  and Rascal Does Not Dream of Bunny Girl Senpai.

Which way should I go for a palate cleanser and brain bleach after... that...???
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Post by: Ruger on 23 May 2019, 17:11:12
Okay, guys who don't take abuse but aren't total a-holes or outright villain protagonists.

Shiro Amada of 08th MS Team?

Or Captain Harlock.

Ruger
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 23 May 2019, 17:15:52
Well, I finally finished up Food Wars and then decided to dive into Darling in the Franxx to see what all that controversy was about...

...

Now after  :bang: at that ending, I need... something else.  Something not either of those.


Hulu just added a bunch of series and two of them caught my eye from the recent good things I've heard about both.  Kaguya-sama: Love is War  and Rascal Does Not Dream of Bunny Girl Senpai.

Which way should I go for a palate cleanser and brain bleach after... that...???

Rascal Does Not Dream of Bunny Girl Senpai was very cute. The relationship between the two protagonists was much better than most.
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Post by: Luciora on 23 May 2019, 17:23:02
I enjoyed midnight cafe alot.   The slice of life and food combines to some nice stories. 

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Post by: MadCapellan on 23 May 2019, 18:03:27
Now after  :bang: at that ending, I need... something else.  Something not either of those.

Yeah, Evangelion it was not!  :-\

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Hulu just added a bunch of series and two of them caught my eye from the recent good things I've heard about both.  Kaguya-sama: Love is War  and Rascal Does Not Dream of Bunny Girl Senpai.

Which way should I go for a palate cleanser and brain bleach after... that...???

Kaguya-sama is hilarious! Definitely one of the better recent comedies! Bunny Girl Senpai is just as good, but more emotionally touching than laugh out loud funny, although it has its moments.
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Post by: Ghostbear_Gurdel on 23 May 2019, 20:31:15
I loved Bunny girl Senpai so much, because the main characters actually talk, and trust each other. It was very refreshing in a high-school romance anime.
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Post by: Matti on 23 May 2019, 22:24:46
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9edyqSPIb1r0hqyw.jpg)

I know it's been a while since I watched that show, but... isn't that the literal, extreme, exact opposite of what's being asked for here?  ???
Yes. I don't understand MoneyLovinOgre4Hire's point here (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=61792.msg1506444#msg1506444) after mentioned anime and manga, so I decided to provide some contrast.
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Post by: Istal_Devalis on 24 May 2019, 08:49:51
Yes. I don't understand MoneyLovinOgre4Hire's point here (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=61792.msg1506444#msg1506444) after mentioned anime and manga, so I decided to provide some contrast.
When someone asks for male leads who aren't total a-holes or outright villain protagonists, and you name someone who's most common fan nickname is 'leDouche', you're going to get confusion.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 24 May 2019, 09:12:43
Wait, murdering your family & erstwhile allies, profiting from war crimes & torturing your disabled little sister for street cred is villainy now!? I'm shocked.
/sarcasm
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Post by: Daemion on 24 May 2019, 13:50:42
I'm almost up to ep six of Darling(u) in the Franxx.  So, I have something bizarre to look forward to at the end?

I admit curiosity at all the sexual and reproductive terms contrasted with some other ones, like 'Parasite'.  Does anyone else notice how Franxx has dos equis in its name, which is the style of Chromosomes for women.  We men happen to be alphabetically XY.

That will be a conversation piece for my children at some point.

So, seeing all that, makes me wonder where it's all going.



Now, I can also recommend Rascal Does Not Dream of Bunny Girl Senpai.


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Post by: MadCapellan on 24 May 2019, 14:03:47
I'm almost up to ep six of Darling(u) in the Franxx.  So, I have something bizarre to look forward to at the end?

Without spoiling anything, FranXX throws around A LOT of heavy-handed symbolism & social commentary in a very off the cuff way, but can't be bothered to stick to any one theme long enough to provide a coherent message. Instead you have this kind of muddy, aimless melodrama sandwiching a bunch of Gurren Lagann homages together.  Definitely not one of Trigger's better works....
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Post by: Matti on 24 May 2019, 14:21:01
Without spoiling anything, FranXX throws around A LOT of heavy-handed symbolism & social commentary in a very off the cuff way, but can't be bothered to stick to any one theme long enough to provide a coherent message. Instead you have this kind of muddy, aimless melodrama sandwiching a bunch of Gurren Lagann homages together.  Definitely not one of Trigger's better works....
Is manga as bad?
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Post by: Maingunnery on 24 May 2019, 14:25:56
Without spoiling anything, FranXX throws around A LOT of heavy-handed symbolism & social commentary in a very off the cuff way, but can't be bothered to stick to any one theme long enough to provide a coherent message. Instead you have this kind of muddy, aimless melodrama sandwiching a bunch of Gurren Lagann homages together.  Definitely not one of Trigger's better works....
But the ending is pretty good.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 24 May 2019, 14:30:18
Is manga as bad?

The manga was based on the anime instead of the other way around, so I assume so.....
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Post by: MadCapellan on 24 May 2019, 14:39:06
But the ending is pretty good.

I found it kind of clichéd, honestly. It had a lot of similarities to a number of late 90s/early aughts super-robot anime, which isn't bad in & of itself, but considering the somewhat convoluted route it took to get there it felt rather less than satisfactory.
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Post by: Dies Irae on 24 May 2019, 21:26:52
But the ending is pretty good.

To me, it felt bolted on as if I had walked into a cinema half way through the film. I did not like it at all.

I felt the severe lack of lead up to it crippled it's impact and poisoned the goodwill the first half generated.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 24 May 2019, 21:29:24
To me, it felt bolted on as if I had walked into a cinema half way through the film. I did not like it at all.

I felt the severe lack of lead up to it crippled it's impact and poisoned the goodwill the first half generated.

Yeah, it was like "Crap, where were we going with this? Ahh! Screw it! Stock super-robot ending it is!"
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Post by: Matti on 25 May 2019, 15:53:47
Do you know of anime Otogi Zoshi? Any good?
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Post by: Charlie Tango on 26 May 2019, 08:46:53
Without spoiling anything, FranXX throws around A LOT of heavy-handed symbolism & social commentary in a very off the cuff way, but can't be bothered to stick to any one theme long enough to provide a coherent message. Instead you have this kind of muddy, aimless melodrama sandwiching a bunch of Gurren Lagann homages together.  Definitely not one of Trigger's better works....

This is going to be a weird analogy but...


I don't know if any of you have ever done Jell-O where you put fruit in it and the Jell-O sets up around the fruit.  Well, there are certain fruits that will not allow the Jell-O gelatin to set properly because of an enzyme in them (pineapple for example).

Franxx was Jell-O somebody threw a whole fruit cocktail of ideas into but there was pineapple in there so it didn't set.

Seriously,  there were some really interesting concepts in there that with one or two of them it could have been fascinating.  But with all of it crammed in there it just didn't gel.

Plus the Franxx mecha themselves were so incongruous it made my teeth hurt.  They looked like they had wandered by mistake into this dark-and-gritty post-apocalypse future from some much more kawaii of a show.  I think this may have been intentional, but man, it just made me twitch at times.
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Post by: DarkSpade on 26 May 2019, 09:41:29
Huh? I grew up with almost exclusively fruit cocktail(with pineapple) filled Jello and it always set fine.  ???  A quick search comes up with articles explaining why it won't work along with articles on pineapple and jello recipes.

I think we've found a glitch in the Matrix.


Back on topic:  Watched No Game No life: Zero.  Enjoyed it. Very different tone from the series, but the story still felt like it belonged in the same world.  Was awesome getting to see Gabriel go nuts pre peace time.  I was very conflicted during the whole fight since I love her character, but had to root for her victim.


I need to pick up some Jell-o.
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Post by: Luciora on 26 May 2019, 21:56:54
FanimeCon 2019 signatures are Hirano Aya who voiced a bridge bunny in Macross Frontier (Pictured is Akashi Kaoru from Zettai Karen Children/The Unlimited Hyobu Kyousuke), Kawanoto Toshihiro who did a number of key animations for Gundam and a number of other mecha series and Notobushi Canna who was in Super Robot Wars, several Gundam series and Basara Nekki from Macross 7
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Post by: MadCapellan on 26 May 2019, 22:12:10
Aya Hirano is probably most famous as Haruhi Suzumiya & Konata Izumi from Lucky Star. Nice sign! Shame it's the Unlimited version of Kaoru, that was such a disappointing spin-off to Zettai Karen Children!
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Post by: Luciora on 26 May 2019, 22:46:22
I specialize in having VAs sign older and more obscure works.  They actually appreciate it alot as it shows they aren't just known for the role of the day.  Absolutely loved ZKC, mainly because it was the same author that also did Ghost Sweeper Mikami.  Finding her mom and sister were the VAs was a treat in the Anime!

 
Aya Hirano is probably most famous as Haruhi Suzumiya & Konata Izumi from Lucky Star. Nice sign! Shame it's the Unlimited version of Kaoru, that was such a disappointing spin-off to Zettai Karen Children!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 27 May 2019, 09:54:51
I specialize in having VAs sign older and more obscure works.  They actually appreciate it alot as it shows they aren't just known for the role of the day.

I understand, I just thought it was funny to identify her as a Macross Frontier seiyuu, since I doubt that role is as well known by readers of this thread as Haruhi or Konata! I tend to have folks sign whatever work of theirs that I liked best, popularity be damned! Glad to know you love Zettai Karen Children, though! It's such an underappreciated series!
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Post by: Luciora on 27 May 2019, 10:22:08
I also didn't have any Kiddy Grade items for her to sign, she played Lumiere.

I understand, I just thought it was funny to identify her as a Macross Frontier seiyuu, since I doubt that role is as well known by readers of this thread as Haruhi or Konata! I tend to have folks sign whatever work of theirs that I liked best, popularity be damned! Glad to know you love Zettai Karen Children, though! It's such an underappreciated series!
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Post by: Daemion on 28 May 2019, 09:23:02
I found it kind of clichéd, honestly. It had a lot of similarities to a number of late 90s/early aughts super-robot anime, which isn't bad in & of itself, but considering the somewhat convoluted route it took to get there it felt rather less than satisfactory.

Finished it this morning (3 am).  I will agree that it really is mediocre and typical.  I wasn't surprised by that ending. It wasn't terrible, but it wasn't outstanding (in the field), either.


The mother goddess with a lance destroying evil isn't new.  Saw it done better with the Pretty Cure shows.   :D  Madoka Magica also handled it better in some ways. 

I find it interesting that they harkened to Japanese mythology with the final pair at one point or another looking like oni.


It didn't detract too much from the show for me, since I'm still a relative anime newb with only a couple dozen series under my belt.  But, it's been done enough, I'd almost prefer they took the story from a different direction.  How about a father god, and humans invaded by their ancestors, sitting atop an ancient enemy?

I mean, after all, if you're looking hard enough, and have some knowledge about fringe Christian lore, you can see a lot of religious symbolism in this show and many others.  Might as well use some of that for fun.


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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 28 May 2019, 10:36:57
Was browsing through Amazon Prime's anime offerings and checking random stuff.  Found Flame of Recca, is this show a prototype version of Naruto?
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Post by: Weirdo on 28 May 2019, 10:40:26
Ehhhh.....?....sure.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 28 May 2019, 10:45:20
Just the whole backstory of the solitary, cocky kid who wants to be the greatest ninja.
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Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 28 May 2019, 10:49:50
Was browsing through Amazon Prime's anime offerings and checking random stuff.  Found Flame of Recca, is this show a prototype version of Naruto?
Considering the authors are not same person, the answer is no. But authors have inspired each  others and have made similar stories before.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 28 May 2019, 11:05:02
Just my take, but Flame of Recca>Naruto. Recca just feels a little more grounded & a little less contrived to me. Recca is a martial arts manga where they happen to be ninjas, whereas Naruto was quite consciously a reconstruction of Western 80's ninja tropes by a Japanese artist, right down to the flourescent pajamas...
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Post by: Matti on 28 May 2019, 15:42:45
Let's see what Wikipedia say about it (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame_of_Recca):
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Recca soon discovers that he possesses the innate ability to control/manipulate flames, and eventually learns that he is actually the son of the sixth generation leader of the Hokage, a ninja clan that was wiped out by Oda Nobunaga in 1576, roughly 400 years before the series' present day.
How many cliches/tropes do we see in that sentence alone? :facepalm:

At least transforming into smoke and going through the walls isn't in his repertoire ::)

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Metatron tells about what ninja were really like (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-UePD6Wp5A)
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Post by: Istal_Devalis on 29 May 2019, 11:40:51
Flame of Recca was started back in 1995. It beat Naruto by about 4 years.
Both are running on the same Shonen Tropes brought into the field by works like DragonBall and Yu Yu Hakusho.

Characters being Ninja or descended from Ninja are way older then that.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 29 May 2019, 11:55:17
Let's see what Wikipedia say about it (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame_of_Recca):How many cliches/tropes do we see in that sentence alone? :facepalm:

Well, you know, "SHONEN MANGA!" *jazz hands*
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Post by: DarkSpade on 30 May 2019, 12:04:47
Stuck at home with a bad stomach flu so good time as any to start binging.  Yesterday I watched all of Princess Principal.  Definitely want more of this one.  The  episodes being out of order was a little odd, but School Live did something similar with it's early episodes and in both cases, it works.  In both cases, episode 1 set the tone and expectations for the show far better than the chronological first episode would have.  May have used the gimmick a little too long though.  While I followed the story over all, I'm confident there's much I missed.

I knew there was going to be a twist, but wasn't expecting the one we got. Far more interesting and original than what I though it would be.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 30 May 2019, 12:23:08
Studio 3Hz announced they're doing 6 (six!) follow-up movies for Princess Principal, but I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for a release date. i suspect what we'll get in the end will be essentially 6 hour-long episodes released in theatres, possibly two at a time.
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Post by: Matti on 30 May 2019, 14:02:38
Speaking about anime movies, Goblin Slayer: Goblin's Crown (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtmD3vNTu0Q) incoming!
...
Next year
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Post by: DarkSpade on 30 May 2019, 18:41:26
Finished Girls Last Tour. Enjoyed it up until Cut showed up.  Then it just got a little too weird.  I was left with a lot of questions, but I guess that's probably as planned?  Guess I'm sweet and salty toward it.

Except Yuuri. I'm totally salty toward her.  I think it would have been better if one character wasn't the lazy hungry and dumb(really dumb) trope.
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Post by: Maingunnery on 30 May 2019, 18:59:19
Finished Girls Last Tour. Enjoyed it up until Cut showed up.  Then it just got a little too weird.  I was left with a lot of questions, but I guess that's probably as planned?  Guess I'm sweet and salty toward it.
Well in the last few episodes it went from a slice-of-life survival to basically clumsy misanthropy.
Definitely the worst anime ending of its season.
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Post by: Orin J. on 31 May 2019, 00:15:40
Finished Girls Last Tour. Enjoyed it up until Cut showed up.  Then it just got a little too weird.  I was left with a lot of questions, but I guess that's probably as planned?  Guess I'm sweet and salty toward it.

Except Yuuri. I'm totally salty toward her.  I think it would have been better if one character wasn't the lazy hungry and dumb(really dumb) trope.

hey, there's been way worse endings lately, i'd still say it worth watching. i get the feeling they were suffering for time or something. maybe they got ahead of the source material or something?
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Post by: DarkSpade on 31 May 2019, 08:33:44
I think what bugs me the most is that I can't figure out how they fit into the time line.  Or rather how anything does.  The show gives the strong impression that war was still happening when the girls took off on their half track, but everything they find looks like it happened a century ago. The first guy they met described things as being hundreds of years old.   And then there was how everything looked like it had been a planned abandonment.

While I was watching it, I loved every minute of it.  It was a stunning world full of mysteries that I'd love to explore.  It was diminished in the end when it became clear their wasn't anything holding it together.  It's just a bunch of cool ideas poorly pasted together.
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Post by: Matti on 31 May 2019, 09:01:59
While I was watching it, I loved every minute of it.  It was a stunning world full of mysteries that I'd love to explore.  It was diminished in the end when it became clear their wasn't anything holding it together.  It's just a bunch of cool ideas poorly pasted together.
Is manga any better?

And I would really like it if Amazon were to offer videos the same way it does anything Kindle: download and watch offline without monthly subscription
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Post by: Istal_Devalis on 31 May 2019, 09:03:59
Well in the last few episodes it went from a slice-of-life survival to basically clumsy misanthropy.
Definitely the worst anime ending of its season.
it was a series in which mankind had mostly wiped itself out and was on its way to extinction before the series had started. Not quite sure what you expected in terms of its overall feeling on mankind.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 31 May 2019, 09:34:44
Decided to rewatch a couple episodes of Trigun last night.

Still fun, though Vash's womanizing ways are even more cringe inducing than the first time I saw the show.
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Post by: Maingunnery on 31 May 2019, 11:03:32
it was a series in which mankind had mostly wiped itself out and was on its way to extinction before the series had started. Not quite sure what you expected in terms of its overall feeling on mankind.
The endings of post-apocalyptic media often fall into two categories: continuation (situation stays the same but the characters have developed) or a turn-around (the situation has improved, there is now a road to recovery). 

During the show they kept meeting new people, so there are survivors, and then suddenly they are the last surviving humans.
And the creatures last talk with them sounds to me like a friendly way to encourage someone into committing suicide.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 31 May 2019, 11:34:43
They met a few survivors, but it was obvious that the species as a whole was done for.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 31 May 2019, 12:08:00
Sora no Woto handled the idea much better, IMO, even if the ending shows both a reclamation of technology, a potential return of humanity...followed by the news that it's unsustainable and going to end not too long off.
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Post by: kato on 31 May 2019, 12:53:59
The endings of post-apocalyptic media often fall into two categories: continuation (situation stays the same but the characters have developed) or a turn-around (the situation has improved, there is now a road to recovery). 
The third common one is Removal (give the characters a chance of recovery by removing only them from the situation while the situation itself continues unabated).
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Post by: Dies Irae on 01 June 2019, 09:43:22
Sora no Woto handled the idea much better, IMO, even if the ending shows both a reclamation of technology, a potential return of humanity...followed by the news that it's unsustainable and going to end not too long off.

I don't know why but Sora no Woto never clicked for me, to the point where my instinctive reaction to it is a mild loathing.
I can't even begin to explain why it elicits this reaction in me. I'm a fan of moe military, slice of life, cute girls doing cool things and expansive world building, but somehow it just came across like a bad meal which somehow ruined each of the ingredients and when it was over, all I could mentally comprehend was a sense of relief.

I can't begin to understand why it elicits this reaction in me. People love the show and I can understand why intellectually, but my heart recoils at the prospect.

Not a criticism. It's a purely irrational visceral reaction that for the most part seems to have no grounding in logic.


The endings of post-apocalyptic media often fall into two categories: continuation (situation stays the same but the characters have developed) or a turn-around (the situation has improved, there is now a road to recovery). 

During the show they kept meeting new people, so there are survivors, and then suddenly they are the last surviving humans.
And the creatures last talk with them sounds to me like a friendly way to encourage someone into committing suicide.

I enjoyed the whole conceit of Girls Last Tour much more with an understanding of where the author came from.
Ultimately before she sanitized her social media when the show came out, besides the yuri themed work, there was a strong tonality about suicide being the final cop out, discussed, drawn and presented with a matter-of-factness that is only recognizable to those who have stared into the abyss of depression themselves.

Girls Last Tour ends (manga ending spoilers to follow) On a bleak not because it ultimately started on a bleak note. This isn't a Sora no Woto style rage against the end style situation. In Girls's Last Tour, the end came to the party, ate all the food and wrecked the place and left several hours ago. There isn't any coming back from it. It's a make your own goals in the sandbox situation, because humanity is dead, the last settlement just fratricidally tore itself apart and now there's nothing to live for and all that's left are individuals wandering around creating meaning for themselves to pass the time before death ultimately claims them. Even the desire of the protagonists to see the roof of the world ends with them reaching the top, sating their curiosity at what's up there (NOTHING) and then dying from exposure. There wasn't any meaning to reaching the top, just that they wanted to see it before resources ran out.

The scavenger creature that ate power, whatever it was, was in fact more or less doing what you suggested in telling them it was a fools errand.


The entire ending is portrayed without context in the sketches of the closing credits.

In the end, the world is intentionally portrayed as complex but ultimately meaningless by the author as meaning comes from what is ascribed to it by the interactions, thoughts and actions of people and it's very much what tied into the personal meaning of choice and agency.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 01 June 2019, 11:20:24
I thought the ending of Girls Last Tour was great & very much in keeping with what kind of story it was - death is inevitable, joy is in the journey. That humanity had largely died before them was merely a matter of record. It's an existentialist & nihilist work, but a very positive one, in its own way!
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Post by: Maingunnery on 01 June 2019, 12:12:06
I thought the ending of Girls Last Tour was great & very much in keeping with what kind of story it was - death is inevitable, joy is in the journey. That humanity had largely died before them was merely a matter of record. It's an existentialist & nihilist work, but a very positive one, in its own way!
I often regard nihilistic works as meals with poison inside, a little bit might work as flavoring, but any significant dose isn't presented with the well being of the consumer in mind.

Also I would have found the last humans scenario more plausible if they didn't encounter any other humans, but the claim of suddenly being the last humans seems more like an hint that the scavenger creature is lying to them in an effort to get them to give up (and it worked). And I would not be surprised if the scavenger creatures had been eating vital supplies and equipment, to undermine the survival of humanity.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 01 June 2019, 13:08:45
Also I would have found the last humans scenario more plausible if they didn't encounter any other humans, but the claim of suddenly being the last humans seems more like an hint that the scavenger creature is lying to them in an effort to get them to give up (and it worked). And I would not be surprised if the scavenger creatures had been eating vital supplies and equipment, to undermine the survival of humanity.

I'm pretty sure that all the scavenger creature said was that there were no other humans remaining on that level. It not seem to know or care what occurred on levels above it, likely because it was an artificial life-form constructed strictly to consume war-making materials/environmental hazards. Nuko only ever seemed interested in eating their ammunition, after all!
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Post by: Matti on 01 June 2019, 16:36:26
In the end, the world is intentionally portrayed as complex but ultimately meaningless by the author as meaning comes from what is ascribed to it by the interactions, thoughts and actions of people and it's very much what tied into the personal meaning of choice and agency.
That, and what's between the spoilers, made me think about one movie where soldier going for home leave attempts to smuggle rope past MP by tying it around his waist. When he gets home, wife takes the rope off by cutting it to pieces and stuffs it into dungheap. A lot of trouble for nothing. Like the war.
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Post by: Elmoth on 01 June 2019, 18:02:42
Watching code geas. 10 episodes in or so  Liking the action, and the fact that they talk so openly about racism and other topics usually kept under the carpet. Not liking some other things about it (the main character and the weak females at the school are totally appalling IMO) but the story so far is nice, not full of filler and we'll, Mecha :) Let's see where this evolves.
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Post by: Top Sergeant on 03 June 2019, 20:40:03
Stuck at home with a bad stomach flu so good time as any to start binging.  Yesterday I watched all of Princess Principal.  Definitely want more of this one.  The  episodes being out of order was a little odd, but School Live did something similar with it's early episodes and in both cases, it works.  In both cases, episode 1 set the tone and expectations for the show far better than the chronological first episode would have.  May have used the gimmick a little too long though.  While I followed the story over all, I'm confident there's much I missed.

I knew there was going to be a twist, but wasn't expecting the one we got. Far more interesting and original than what I though it would be.

That was indeed a good show.
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Post by: Top Sergeant on 03 June 2019, 20:42:46
Speaking about anime movies, Goblin Slayer: Goblin's Crown (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtmD3vNTu0Q) incoming!
...
Next year

Hm. That's the arc with Noble Fencer isn't it?
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Post by: Top Sergeant on 03 June 2019, 20:47:39
Sora no Woto handled the idea much better, IMO, even if the ending shows both a reclamation of technology, a potential return of humanity...followed by the news that it's unsustainable and going to end not too long off.

Sora no Woto is a show to which you really need to pay attention. Many people seem to miss the alien invasion, not get the difference between 'slice of life' and 'slice of military life', and the overarching theme of redemption which runs throughout the series.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 03 June 2019, 22:38:12
well, the giant bird-people skeleton's a big giveaway for the aliens, but I agree.

On the topic of post-apocalyptic comfiness, there really only is one option.  Sadly, out of a few selected episodes made into an OAV (out of 141 chapters) the exceptional Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou is manga-only.  It's very much a comfortable twilight-of-mankind, as the cities and towns get smaller and the robots that humanity created live on.  There's still people, THE END hasn't come or anything...it's just the peaceful evening of a humanity getting ready for bed.

It's easily one of the finest things I've ever read, and my all-time favorite manga series, and yet it's such an unknown here.
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Post by: Istal_Devalis on 04 June 2019, 09:11:47
In the realm of 'Comfy Endings'
There's also Humanity has Declined. No big emergency, just a slowly dwindling population. Sorta like Humanity has entered retirement as a younger race takes over.

It's also hilarious. Humanity left some interesting projects behind it, and the the new race is a mix of all powerful, easily suggestible, and morally flexible.
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Post by: Matti on 04 June 2019, 10:16:38
About Goblin Slayer
Hm. That's the arc with Noble Fencer isn't it?
I haven't read the novels and manga isn't that far yet, so I don't know.
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Post by: Matti on 04 June 2019, 10:22:20
I just got softcore hentai anime Yosuga no Sora. BD version... I thought I ordered DVD one? Meh, whatever. Backcover helpfully lists the episodes for each arc (with some overlap), so that's great. Meh, PowerDVD 10 don't want to play the disc. What about Leawo... Did I uninstall it? Dammit, I should have got DVDs; at least those work.
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Post by: Weirdo on 04 June 2019, 10:59:14
**Mod Notice**

It being anime does not override the fact that this website is really not an appropriate place to discuss porn acquisitions.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 04 June 2019, 11:06:58
In the realm of 'Comfy Endings'
There's also Humanity has Declined. No big emergency, just a slowly dwindling population. Sorta like Humanity has entered retirement as a younger race takes over.

Seconded! Humanity has Declined is an hilariously fun extinction event!
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Post by: Maingunnery on 04 June 2019, 11:12:04
I prefer my post-apocalypses to be more like "A wind named amnesia" (Kaze no Na wa Amunejia).
Which in effect is a civilization reset.   
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Post by: DarkSpade on 04 June 2019, 13:02:36
Now I want an anime adaptation of Nightfall.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 04 June 2019, 13:17:38
I'm pretty sure I've said this to you before, Matti, but a Blu-Ray cannot be played on any manner of DVD player, it requires its own dedicated hardware.
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Post by: kato on 04 June 2019, 13:48:55
The problem is likely that that's a pretty old version of PowerDVD (heck, it's older than the TV broadcast of that anime!). Older versions are known to - regularly - have problems with copy protection on more recent titles. There's free updates for the software though.
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Post by: Matti on 04 June 2019, 14:11:14
I'm pretty sure I've said this to you before, Matti, but a Blu-Ray cannot be played on any manner of DVD player, it requires its own dedicated hardware.
I don't have/need a DVD player because I've got computers with BD drives. PowerDVD is name of a software that plays both DVD and BD (newer versions) discs. Maybe CDs too for music.

And I expected a retort from you regarding commentary about Yosuga no Sora. Calling it hentai/porn was a bit too much...


There's free updates for the software though.
Let's see... I think I have found it. I have forgot my password >:(

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And Leawo program plays the discs, but menus don't recognize the mouse :ticked:
At least I got installed free update to PowerDVD 12 (from 10) and first disc works with that one :thumbsup:
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Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 04 June 2019, 15:53:58
well, the giant bird-people skeleton's a big giveaway for the aliens, but I agree.

On the topic of post-apocalyptic comfiness, there really only is one option.  Sadly, out of a few selected episodes made into an OAV (out of 141 chapters) the exceptional Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou is manga-only.  It's very much a comfortable twilight-of-mankind, as the cities and towns get smaller and the robots that humanity created live on.  There's still people, THE END hasn't come or anything...it's just the peaceful evening of a humanity getting ready for bed.

It's easily one of the finest things I've ever read, and my all-time favorite manga series, and yet it's such an unknown here.
I'll have to find that series.
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Post by: Daemion on 05 June 2019, 12:11:12
Anyone else intrigued by the "Magic: the Gathering" 'anime', that's coming to Netflix?

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Post by: Charlie Tango on 05 June 2019, 16:17:12
Anyone else intrigued by the "Magic: the Gathering" 'anime', that's coming to Netflix?

It's the Russo Brothers behind it, so that at least is encouraging. 

There will be the usual complaints of "It's not an anime."

I  haven't kept up with the ongoing story of M:tG after I stopped playing many years ago but they do seem to have a pool of lore and storylines from which to draw, so it could be interesting.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 05 June 2019, 17:05:45
Anyone else intrigued by the "Magic: the Gathering" 'anime', that's coming to Netflix?
It's the Russo Brothers behind it, so that at least is encouraging. 
(https://sayingimages.com/wp-content/uploads/funny-teddy-wait-what-meme.jpg)
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Post by: Charlie Tango on 05 June 2019, 17:16:01


https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/magic-gathering-tv-series-a-go-at-netflix-russo-brothers-1215120

quoting from the article: 

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"The streaming giant is teaming with Hasbro and Wizards of the Coast for the first-ever Magic: The Gathering TV series. Brothers Joe and Anthony Russo, fresh off Avengers: Endgame, will executive produce the series. Henry Gilroy (Star Wars Rebels, Star Wars: The Clone Wars) and Jose Molina (The Tick, Agent Carter) will serve as lead writers and co-exec producers on the anime series. An episode order and length of each installment has yet to be determined as Netflix, the creative team and Magic: The Gathering parent company Wizards of the Coast — who will produce — will let the storytelling drive those decisions."
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Post by: MadCapellan on 05 June 2019, 17:23:57
" Animation on the series will be done by Bardel Entertainment (Teen Titans Go)."

Yeah, calling this anime sounds like a real stretch. More power to them, I guess.
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Post by: Luciora on 05 June 2019, 17:47:55
It's marketing at its lowest.  Makes it more exotic sounding to appeal to viewers that only get certain channels and don't have any idea that there is more out there than cartoon network.


https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/magic-gathering-tv-series-a-go-at-netflix-russo-brothers-1215120

quoting from the article:
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 05 June 2019, 18:33:03
" Animation on the series will be done by Bardel Entertainment (Teen Titans Go)."

Yeah, calling this anime sounds like a real stretch. More power to them, I guess.
In fairness it's the same company that also did The Dragon Prince, right in the footsteps of RWBY for its animation style.  Add in Rick & Morty to the animator's list and it could get interesting with the right writers.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 05 June 2019, 19:31:46
In fairness it's the same company that also did The Dragon Prince, right in the footsteps of RWBY for its animation style.  Add in Rick & Morty to the animator's list and it could get interesting with the right writers.

I'm not questioning it's potential - I'm sure it could be great - I'm irritated that marketing people want to turn "anime" into a marketing label for any animation not for children. It's misleading to pretend this has any connection to anime. It's a Canadian animation about an American card game with American writers produced by an American company. Luciora's right, they're slapping an exotic label on a Western product they should be able to be proud of on its own merit. There's nothing wrong with Western animation, call a spade a spade!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 05 June 2019, 21:08:55
I think that ship sailed over a decade ago.  "Anime" has been used to label American, Canadian, and European-produced works that had "anime style" art like Teen Titans and Totally Spies.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 06 June 2019, 00:10:34

I think that ship sailed over a decade ago.  "Anime" has been used to label American, Canadian, and European-produced works that had "anime style" art like Teen Titans and Totally Spies.

The lines of "what is anime" are certainly blurred at this point.  You've got shows designed in Japan but animated in Korea, you have literal "Chinese cartoons" like Big Fish and Begonia done in a style that when placed before a casual or even knowledgeable viewer, is visually indistiguishable in style from a Japanese anime production house. You've got shows done by anime studios (and classified as such) that look more like a Cartoon Network show (Panty and Stocking) than it does, say, Ghost in the Shell or Dirty Pair. You've got Avatar: The Last Airbender, The Dragon Prince, and you have the work of a visionary animator drawn in off-the-shelf software in an old aircraft hangar in Austin, Texas, that when it came out had anime fans demanding the "original Japanese version" instead of the "dub".

I think in the world today "anime" has become not only an art style but a movement, and I don't think it is a Champagne situation, where it can be culturally boxed in to a particular region and everything everywhere else has to be called by a different name.   I don't think you can draw a hard line at the shores of Tokyo Bay anymore.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 06 June 2019, 00:42:34
Strip away that attribution & what does the word even mean? Anime was only adopted into the English language to distinguish it from American animation in the first place! If it's applied to any work of animation that wants to seem a little edgy it'll become debased to the point of irrelevancy. I can't see any benefit linguistically in allowing the definition to become so muddled, particularly when it's being pushed by Western media publishers who want to appropriate an artistic pedigree rather than doing the work to develop their own.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 06 June 2019, 00:59:29
Again, nobody's allowing that now.  It already happened, the time to have been having that argument was around 2005.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 06 June 2019, 02:53:46
What's the difference, then, between "film" and "cinema" rather than quality and effort put into it?  Speaking in the general term, I mean.  Maybe we're just using anime and cartoons now as a differentiation between "something made for kids on mediocre budgets" and "something more serious, and more dedicated."

Then again most anime's "made for kids on mediocre budgets" anyway, so I digress, but it's just a thought.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 06 June 2019, 03:08:10
What's the difference, then, between "film" and "cinema" rather than quality and effort put into it? 

Strictly, a cinema is a building where motion pictures are shown, whereas "film" is the recording medium of such motion pictures. Sloppy colloquial usage & poetic license notwithstanding, there are distinct definitions to each.

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Maybe we're just using anime and cartoons now as a differentiation between "something made for kids on mediocre budgets" and "something more serious, and more dedicated."

Then again most anime's "made for kids on mediocre budgets" anyway, so I digress, but it's just a thought.

Yeah, that describes nearly everything Toei has ever made, & they're the world's largest anime studio.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 06 June 2019, 09:37:53

Nope.  Anime is an art style, or more properly an art movement, within animation.  Much as, say, Impressionism is a movement within art, and much as any art movement, it is evolving. 

Just as the "anime" style itself evolved from Japanese artists taking the works and techniques of Disney animation and building upon those styles in a different direction, now other artists other than just Japanese ones are working and creating works within the movement of anime.




Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 06 June 2019, 09:53:14
Nope.  Anime is an art style, or more properly an art movement, within animation.  Much as, say, Impressionism is a movement within art, and much as any art movement, it is evolving. 

My good friend, I think you are speaking from far too strong a position of authority on this matter, when by your own earlier admission plenty of works of anime such as Panty & Stocking share little to no artistic style at all. The musings of various youtube commentators to the contrary, I don't believe there's any consensus for separating Japanese animated works that do not follow the Osamu Tezuka character design & narrative lineage from the definition of anime, nor is there solid consensus that something like Avatar qualifies as such (It possesses no ANN encyclopedia article or MyAnimeList entry, & Wikipedia describes it as "Anime-influenced Western animation", as I dare say it rightfully should!).
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 06 June 2019, 11:04:17
My good friend, I think you are speaking from far too strong a position of authority on this matter, when by your own earlier admission plenty of works of anime such as Panty & Stocking share little to no artistic style at all. The musings of various youtube commentators to the contrary, I don't believe there's any consensus for separating Japanese animated works that do not follow the Osamu Tezuka character design & narrative lineage from the definition of anime, nor is there solid consensus that something like Avatar qualifies as such (It possesses no ANN encyclopedia article or MyAnimeList entry, & Wikipedia describes it as "Anime-influenced Western animation", as I dare say it rightfully should!).

By your standard of having an ANN encyclopedia entry, RWBY qualifies. As does RWBY Chibi and gen:LOCK.

MyAnimeList allows Chinese and Korean "anime" but not Western made ones. And their guidelines are more than *ten years* out of date.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 06 June 2019, 11:21:45
Being a purist isnt helping anyone. Lines are blurring as anime starts getting more and more into the popular Western consciousness.

You have things like Castlevania which was written and animated by an American company, but watched over by Konami and based on the original artwork. We have Radiant, a French manga-style comic, actually made into a manga in Japan, and then turned into an anime. You have RWBY, an anime style CG show that's popular enough in japan that Arcsys added them to their CrossTag fighting game, and which some Japanese arent aware wasnt original to Japan. There was Daft Punk's music videos/movie Interstella 5555, produced by the French and animated by Toei (and Leiji frikkin Matsumoto) that I've never heard anyone argue isnt anime, but then there was the whole deal involving the music video for 'Shelter', animated by A-1 and the HUGE kerfuffle over whether that was anime or not. To go even farther back, we have Big O season two, which ONLY got produced because Cartoon Network ponied up the funds to co-Produce it with Sunrise, and was primarily targeted at the Adult Swim audience. Anime or not? Crunchyroll is an American company, and is now a major production element with many anime series, with the expressed goal of making anime they can stream for Western audiences. Are those shows suddenly not anime anymore?

This is only going to continue. Where are we drawing the line?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 06 June 2019, 11:36:21
MyAnimeList allows Chinese and Korean "anime" but not Western made ones. And their guidelines are more than *ten years* out of date.

Out of date or more accurate? *shrugs* I'm just failing to see a definition of anime that means anything if it doesn't mean Japanese animation. Defining it by artistic style excommunicates numerous Japanese animated works currently understood by nearly everyone as anime. Allowing it to be used by whomever wants to makes it a synonym for "cartoon".

Where are we drawing the line?

Japanese animation studio/director? Anime. Non-Japanese animation studio/director? Not anime. So as a quick breakdown:

Castlevania, RWBY - NO
Radiant, Interstella 555, Shelter, Big O S2 - YES

I don't get why this is so hard or fails to inform.

You folks are acting like Hayao Miyazaki hasn't been adapting Western literature into anime his whole career!  ;D
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 06 June 2019, 11:50:40
Not related to the rest of your post, but just to clarify here:

We have Radiant, a French manga-style comic, actually made into a manga in Japan, and then turned into an anime.
The Japanese manga release is just a translated reprint of the French comic.

The publisher (Asukashinsha) doesn't really do any manga - they seem to make their money with coaching books of various kinds, many of them simply translated foreign books as well. Oh, and they also publish Kazuyoshi Hanada's "works" which are entirely too Rule 4 worthy to even mention.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 06 June 2019, 12:03:48
To completely change the topic to my sudden feelings of raging jealousy - Sydney's Smashcon is hosting Rie Kugimiya next month - Any upside-down folk on here better appreciate this opportunity you're getting!  :'(
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 06 June 2019, 12:18:24
This is only going to continue. Where are we drawing the line?
To keep it simple, as I define anime to others: Japanese cartoon. Does it need to be more than that?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 06 June 2019, 12:19:59
To keep it simple, as I define anime to others: Japanese cartoon. Does it need to be more than that?

Exactly, thank you.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 06 June 2019, 12:28:25
Out of date or more accurate? *shrugs* I'm just failing to see a definition of anime that means anything if it doesn't mean Japanese animation. Defining it by artistic style excommunicates numerous Japanese animated works currently understood by nearly everyone as anime. Allowing it to be used by whomever wants to makes it a synonym for "cartoon".

Which was what the word originally meant until it started to become popular to broadcast dubbed versions of Japanese cartoons in more or less their original formats in the US instead of heavily editing them and giving them new names.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 06 June 2019, 12:49:05
Which was what the word originally meant until it started to become popular to broadcast dubbed versions of Japanese cartoons in more or less their original formats in the US instead of heavily editing them and giving them new names.

Certainly that's still the meaning in Japanese today. The real question is, why eliminate the usefulness of the English definition by muddling its definition?  It's certainly better than the previous "Japanimation".
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 06 June 2019, 14:15:57
To keep it simple, as I define anime to others: Japanese cartoon. Does it need to be more than that?

Because it's clearly expanded beyond that definition at this point.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 06 June 2019, 14:56:44
Because it's clearly expanded beyond that definition at this point.
Has that "expanded" definition been printed in encyclopedia?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Luciora on 06 June 2019, 15:17:33
For me, if its not produced specifically for the Japanese market, and has to be exported out from Japan, it's not anime in the sense of Japanese animation.  Sure, the Japanese will refer to anything animated as an anime simply because of that, but I think that's the main criteria that should be used.  The actual intended market.

The koreans borrowed manga as manhua, probably because they didnt have anything specific to compete with the Japanese until it was shown just how popular the import was over the normal home industry.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 06 June 2019, 15:45:56
Manhua is a perfect parallel, however. Even in the US, it isn't referred to as "Korean manga", it's properly referred to as manhua. The name indicates the country of origin.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 07 June 2019, 09:06:19
Has that "expanded" definition been printed in encyclopedia?

Doesn't matter.  It's becoming slang.  Street use will always happen regardless of if it's in a dictionary or not. There are lots of words that have shifted in usage from their initial meaning.  Do I really need to bring up what the word '******' used to mean versus how it's used now, centuries after the first time it was coined?

But! I could see its meaning defined in a regional fashion, as well, not too long from now.  You hoity-toity coastal folks might be a little more up-tight about how some words are used, so it may very well stay as originally defined.  But, come here to the fast and loose mid-west, and we might offend your sensibilities with our applying it to a particular set of animation styles.  :thumbsup:

Y'know, kinda like how some regions call soda pop 'soda', versus others using 'pop', and yet others using 'coke'.

edit: Friggin spell-check can do smiley's very well.

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 07 June 2019, 10:05:47
To keep it simple, as I define anime to others: Japanese cartoon. Does it need to be more than that?
Yes, because projects are becoming more and more multinational these days, and people are more aware of that. See above about 'Shelter' and the internet yelling about whether it was anime or not.

Japanese animation studio/director? Anime. Non-Japanese animation studio/director? Not anime.
So Galaxy High is anime, then?  The TMS produced eps of Inspector Gadget? Bionic Six?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 07 June 2019, 11:19:06
So Galaxy High is anime, then?  The TMS produced eps of Inspector Gadget? Bionic Six?

Why wouldn't it be? TMS made it, & its currently distributed by MediaBlasters & Crunchyroll. Hell, why'd you skip Thundercats? That's technically anime, too, just like G.I. Joe Sigma Six!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 07 June 2019, 12:52:50
Why wouldn't it be? TMS made it, & its currently distributed by MediaBlasters & Crunchyroll. Hell, why'd you skip Thundercats? That's technically anime, too, just like G.I. Joe Sigma Six!
Don't forget Moomin. Who animated Transformers?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 07 June 2019, 13:04:01
Who animated Transformers?

Toei initially, but Transformers was originally a Takara product licensed by Hasbro anyway.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ruger on 07 June 2019, 17:44:15
Toei initially, but Transformers was originally a Takara product licensed by Hasbro anyway.

I thought the actual “Transformers” storyline was an American development using transformable toys from multiple Japanese manufacturers?

Ruger
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 07 June 2019, 17:54:50
I thought the actual “Transformers” storyline was an American development using transformable toys from multiple Japanese manufacturers?

Nope, all of the toys were from Takara, but the initial toys were adopted from several different brands from Takara, mostly Microchange & Diaclone. Takara adopted the Hasbro plotline used in the animated series & continued it largely in parallel until the end of Generation 1.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ruger on 07 June 2019, 18:16:39
Nope, all of the toys were from Takara, but the initial toys were adopted from several different brands from Takara, mostly Microchange & Diaclone. Takara adopted the Hasbro plotline used in the animated series & continued it largely in parallel until the end of Generation 1.

Yeah, I guess I mistook different toy lines from the same manufacturer for different manufacturers.

Ruger
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 10 June 2019, 09:02:29
Why wouldn't it be? TMS made it, & its currently distributed by MediaBlasters & Crunchyroll. Hell, why'd you skip Thundercats? That's technically anime, too, just like G.I. Joe Sigma Six!
Yeah...Suffice it to say, I know several people who would vehemently disagree with you on that that. :D But that's sorta the issue here, your line is a lot different from others.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 10 June 2019, 09:11:33

Japanese animation studio/director? Anime. Non-Japanese animation studio/director? Not anime.




So where do you cut something like The Red Turtle?  Co-produced by Wild Bunch and Studio Ghibli (with Toshio Suzuki from Ghibli as the primary), but a non-Japanese director and the animation done all over the place, including Ghibli.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ruger on 10 June 2019, 09:25:19

So where do you cut something like The Red Turtle?  Co-produced by Wild Bunch and Studio Ghibli (with Toshio Suzuki from Ghibli as the primary), but a non-Japanese director and the animation done all over the place, including Ghibli.

Oh good. Now I don’t feel bad for not having that one in my Studio Ghibli collection.

Ruger
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 10 June 2019, 09:40:20
While I'm not sure if this'll help, but...
First, I define Anime as: Animated material developed and primarily intended for a Japanese audience.
Notice I didn't include produced. I kept that out to keep productions where a Studio is a co-producer in a project, but it's intended primary airing isn't Japan. I know that also gives some grey areas too, but at least allows a reasonably solid base line to work with.

As to G1 Transformers being Anime or not? Technically, even by my definition, I'd say no. While the toys G1 was based on were of Japanese origin, the background and characterizations were developed in the US for a US audience. Noting that, I would make an exception for the Japanese-exclusive series based from G1 though. Youtuber Chris McFeely, as part of his "The Basics" series, just covered the Japanese TF Series (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgaxzKADr_I). It's worth watching.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Luciora on 10 June 2019, 10:01:33
So, blurry picture, since it was rushed, and late night, but i'm feeling like I should rewatch Tiger and Bunny while working on the MG kit.  They really are pretty big.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 10 June 2019, 10:23:46

So where do you cut something like The Red Turtle?  Co-produced by Wild Bunch and Studio Ghibli (with Toshio Suzuki from Ghibli as the primary), but a non-Japanese director and the animation done all over the place, including Ghibli.

Nearly all the core creative staff weren't Japanese on that film, so I'd say no. When I say the studio/director determines what is anime & what is not, I am discussing the individuals creatively driving & shaping the work. The presence of Japanese animators working under-contract for a largely foreign creative staff according to direction by said staff doesn't make it anime any more than hiring Japanese robotics technicians would make a manufacturer a Japanese company. The national origin of core creative staff - writers, directors, key animator, character designers, etc, determine if a work is anime. Those core creatives may be meeting a request by an overseas customer, or may even include a handful of foreign creatives amongst them, but once there is little or no Japanese creative influence, it ceases to be a Japanese work of art - it's not anime.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 10 June 2019, 14:44:31
Oh good. Now I don’t feel bad for not having that one in my Studio Ghibli collection.

Ruger

Nevertheless,  it is good and worth a watch.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ruger on 10 June 2019, 15:26:07
Nevertheless,  it is good and worth a watch.

IIRC, it has no dialogue in it?

Ruger
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 10 June 2019, 16:42:49
Nevertheless,  it is good and worth a watch.

It does look good! Dare I say it, better than some other full Ghibli films!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 10 June 2019, 17:40:23
IIRC, it has no dialogue in it?

Ruger

Correct.

It was very critically acclaimed, winning an Un Certain Regard at Cannes and being nominated for an Oscar.

anyway, I'll stop derailing things.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 10 June 2019, 21:32:36
FYI, Funimation is currently streaming Shin Godzilla.  It'll be available to watch for the next few weeks.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Elmoth on 12 June 2019, 02:36:49
Entering the second seaspon of Code Geass. While the first one was quite mech-centric, it seems this has gone more into the area of magic and mechs are just background.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 12 June 2019, 04:29:47
I've long hypothesized that Code Geass had been written intending for three seasons, & when only two were approved a large chunk of the story wound up cut. In addition to the general rapid pacing, things like Orange-kun's hyped up Geass Canceller never getting used leads me to believe a lot of material was pulled for time.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Elmoth on 12 June 2019, 04:58:47
Might be. I like the rapid pace. Make for a much more interesting anime than the loooooooong filler series that we tend to see out there.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 12 June 2019, 12:58:47
I've long hypothesized that Code Geass had been written intending for three seasons, & when only two were approved a large chunk of the story wound up cut. In addition to the general rapid pacing, things like Orange-kun's hyped up Geass Canceller never getting used leads me to believe a lot of material was pulled for time.
We Escaflowne fans sympathize.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ruger on 12 June 2019, 15:44:06
We Escaflowne fans sympathize.

I need to rewatch both Code Geass and Vision of Escaflowne sometime.

Ruger
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: grimlock1 on 14 June 2019, 08:38:26
Might be. I like the rapid pace. Make for a much more interesting anime than the loooooooong filler series that we tend to see out there.
There's a difference between a long, well plotted, well paced series and "We've demonstrated yet again that we can put out almost 50,000 frames of animation with dialog and music faster than those manga folks can produce 15 pages of black and white.  Now we need to kill some time.  Maybe there's something good on Fanfiction.net we can crib..."


Side note:  I read somewhere that the Death of Superman arc was sort of a filler. Lois and Clark were getting close to tying the knot in the comics, but the Lois and Clark TV show was just spooling up.  So they killed Superman for a while to give the show time to catch up.  That way the comic and TV weddings would more or less sync up.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 14 June 2019, 11:27:11
Tvtropes says that.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 14 June 2019, 11:47:32
Tvtropes says that.
I recall TVtropes also saying that a certain scene in Star Wars movie was altered because of changes in age rating system, which MadCapellan has said to be wrong. So don't take everything on TVtropes (or in any Wiki in general) too seriously.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 14 June 2019, 15:00:47
I'm not saying that it's correct, I've certainly removed plenty of nonsense from the site over the years,  but it's a place grimlock1 could have seen it.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ruger on 15 June 2019, 20:03:03
Seasons 3-6 of the Netflix/Dreamworks Voltron Legendary Defender series have been released as a set of DVD’s.

Ruger
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 15 June 2019, 21:18:49
It started out well. Shame it fumbled on the last couple.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ghostbear_Gurdel on 16 June 2019, 21:40:55
ISEKAI QUARTET Ep 10. There's a reason she's called Tanya "the Evil".  ;D ;D i was literally in tears!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: grimlock1 on 18 June 2019, 08:05:48
I'm about 8 eps into Sirius the Jaeger and liking that so far.

On the other hand, I got maybe 2 eps into Revision before I walked away. I may try again but the lead, Daisuke is a major turn off.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 18 June 2019, 13:10:19
Regarding this upcoming anime (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAA3qqS7-7s), I'm nearly through & done with the Web novel. So isekai, protagonist is older Japanese (as opposed to typical teenagers), and he is called maou / demon lord. He doesn't yield to typical cliches & tropes, but instead takes them by the throat and kicks ass with cigarette in his mouth. So girl walks into men's bath by mistake while Maou is in there, and he is like: "Such a cliche... Frak it!"

Many other characters also break your typical tropes: one beautiful holy maiden insults everyone while holding her middle finger high, white mage dressed in black and worships some darkness because chuunibyou, and so on. Totally enjoyed the Web novel, and when I wasn't grinning like a fool, I was laughing my ass off. I hope anime gets as well done as Goblin Slayer.

So does anyone else in here have expectations about this anime?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 20 June 2019, 06:46:55
Regarding this upcoming anime (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAA3qqS7-7s), I'm nearly through & done with the Web novel. So isekai, protagonist is older Japanese (as opposed to typical teenagers), and he is called maou / demon lord. He doesn't yield to typical cliches & tropes, but instead takes them by the throat and kicks ass with cigarette in his mouth. So girl walks into men's bath by mistake while Maou is in there, and he is like: "Such a cliche... Frak it!"

Many other characters also break your typical tropes: one beautiful holy maiden insults everyone while holding her middle finger high, white mage dressed in black and worships some darkness because chuunibyou, and so on. Totally enjoyed the Web novel, and when I wasn't grinning like a fool, I was laughing my ass off. I hope anime gets as well done as Goblin Slayer.

So does anyone else in here have expectations about this anime?
Other than expecting it's to be a highly compressed version what I've read from the Manga, which i actually liked.  It could be ok, but it hard to say.  A lot people are burnt out on the iseka trend.   I'm not but, others maybe thinking otherwise. 

I'd be happy if Japan find more diverse source materials other than Legacy series dating back to the 1970s and popular trend ones seem to burn out fairly quick.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 20 June 2019, 09:42:43
I'd like isekai shows better if so many of them weren't "overpowered protagonist is a *bleep* to people and shows off how OP their abilities are all the time."
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 20 June 2019, 13:22:45
I'd like isekai shows better if so many of them weren't "overpowered protagonist is a *bleep* to people and shows off how OP their abilities are all the time."
At least Maou-sama Retry! plays it for laughs and does it well. As for what you're asking for:
Re:Zero
Konosuba
Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash
The Familiar of Zero


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Gate
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More on the manga front. I may write about couple of them in the respective topic sometime soon.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 20 June 2019, 18:34:12

I don't think I'd seen this posted in here (apologies if it was) but it looks like Weathering With You the newest film by legendary Japanese anime director Makoto Shinkai will be getting an English dub and a US release (for awards purposes in NYC and LA in late December 2019 and in a more wide distribution in early 2020).


https://variety.com/2019/film/global/gkids-north-american-rights-weathering-with-you-1203224303/


Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 20 June 2019, 21:28:44
Time to gouge your eyeballs out after this, because they'll never see anything prettier...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 21 June 2019, 06:50:22

https://variety.com/2019/film/global/gkids-north-american-rights-weathering-with-you-1203224303/
From that same article:
"“Your Name,” set box-office records in Japan and around the world, grossing $358 million worldwide, becoming the third highest-grossing non-English language and non-Chinese movie of all time. It’s currently getting a major studio live-action remake from J.J. Abrams."
What?  :o
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 21 June 2019, 09:09:47
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Twin Engine announced on March 19, 2018 that the series will receive an anime television series adaptation animated by Wit Studio, scheduled to premiere on July 7, 2019, with the series running for 24 episodes on NHK General TV.[5] Amazon will stream the series worldwide on their Prime Video service. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinland_Saga_(manga)#Anime)
Amazon Prime Video... What kind of anime selection it has and does it cost more than the subscription?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 21 June 2019, 11:11:01
Prime Video is part of a Prime subscription (at least in the US). The offerings are... random. There's a lot of older stuff and some new things that aren't as big names as you'd find on Crunchyroll or Funimation.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 21 June 2019, 12:37:26
It’s currently getting a major studio live-action remake from J.J. Abrams."
What?  :o

Hollywood just can't stand not being involved in anything interesting & have to rush to appropriate it & give it their approved cultural spin. It may very well die in development hell like the Eva movie & a number of other proposed anime adaptations, though, we'll see....
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 21 June 2019, 13:17:08
But they did a Hollywood version of Your Name, it was called Armageddon
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 21 June 2019, 15:29:58
In a different, though relevant tangent: Soundtracks!

I know I've been on an Otome/Hime kick (which has spurned me to break out my copy of My-Otome, and maybe find the compilations for Zwei and 0.Sifr).

That got me recollecting on High and Mighty Color and Orange Range, and many others, looking up the artists and their albums.

Curious if anyone has any suggestions on what else to look for.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Maingunnery on 21 June 2019, 15:44:19
In a different, though relevant tangent: Soundtracks!

I know I've been on an Otome/Hime kick (which has spurned me to break out my copy of My-Otome, and maybe find the compilations for Zwei and 0.Sifr).

That got me recollecting on High and Mighty Color and Orange Range, and many others, looking up the artists and their albums.

Curious if anyone has any suggestions on what else to look for.

Other shows with great sound tracks:
- Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt
- Gunbuster 2 (Diebuster)
- Macross Plus
- You're Under Arrest
- Bubblegum Crisis

Shows with a couple of very good tracks:
- Heavy Object
- Macross Delta
- Re-CREATORS
- Simoun
- To Aru Kagaku no Railgun
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ruger on 21 June 2019, 16:59:32
Other shows with great sound tracks:
- Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt
- Gunbuster 2 (Diebuster)
- Macross Plus
- You're Under Arrest
- Bubblegum Crisis

Shows with a couple of very good tracks:
- Heavy Object
- Macross Delta
- Re-CREATORS
- Simoun
- To Aru Kagaku no Railgun

Other shows with great soundtracks:

Megazone 23 (especially part 2)
Vision of Escaflowne
ADPolice Files
Record of Lodoss War
Several of the Gundam series, but especially 0083, 08th MS Team, and CCA
New Dominion Tank Police

Ruger
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 21 June 2019, 22:29:55
I'd also include...

Last Exile
.hack//Sign
Full Metal Alchmeist (2003)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 21 June 2019, 22:49:05
Are we not listening Cowboy Bebop and Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex for being too obvious?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: CranstonSnord on 21 June 2019, 23:54:25
FLCL
Space Dandy
Samurai Champloo
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 22 June 2019, 02:18:46
No one putting forward the obvious? Black Heaven / Kachou Ouji? As in... Hard Rock Save The Space? I mean, it is John Sykes and Michael Schenker...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 22 June 2019, 03:42:25
Detroit Metal City
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ruger on 22 June 2019, 06:07:24
Are we not listening Cowboy Bebop and Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex for being too obvious?

Yes

Also, Black Lagoon

Ruger
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 22 June 2019, 07:14:57
Are we not listening Cowboy Bebop and Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex for being too obvious?
or Mongolian Chop Squad for that matter
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 23 June 2019, 14:17:05
Hollywood just can't stand not being involved in anything interesting & have to rush to appropriate it & give it their approved cultural spin. It may very well die in development hell like the Eva movie & a number of other proposed anime adaptations, though, we'll see....

No,  it's that they are actually doing something like looking for other properties to make movies of that might have appeal to wider audiences.  I don't know if you've noticed bu the recent string of what could have been successful sequels to established properties have tanked.  Hard. 

Hollywood realizes that anime has global reach and has bloomed in popularity here in the US in the last 5 years especially, and they are looking to try to tap into this rich vein of source material that has until now, not been as significantly tapped in the west.

That they are very bad at doing so in most cases thus far is the problem.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Luciora on 23 June 2019, 15:52:42
Are you talking OST, or including character songbook, image albums or dramas?
 
Kimagure Orange Road, Macross, Macross Plus, Ghost Sweeper Mikami, Gall Force, Magic Knight Rayearth, Urusei Yatsura, Ranma 1/2, Sailor Moon through S (I disavow anything past), definately Bubblegum Crisis and Ad Police, but do not recommend Crash or the later remakes.

Galaxy Angel, Haiyoru Nyarko, and Masion Ikkoku also have great music tracks.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 23 June 2019, 16:44:02
No,  it's that they are actually doing something like looking for other properties to make movies of that might have appeal to wider audiences.
 I don't know if you've noticed bu the recent string of what could have been successful sequels to established properties have tanked.  Hard. 

That Hollywood wants to make movies goes without saying. That they can't stop changing successful formulas because they think they know better is why they fail & are terrible at it. I don't see why our statements need to be read as mutually exclusive, do you? They seem quite complimentary to me!  :)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ruger on 23 June 2019, 18:36:34
I actually like the BGC 2040 soundtrack, but I loved the original BGC’s.

Ruger
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ghostbear_Gurdel on 23 June 2019, 21:31:11
Regarding OSTs, Gurren Lagann is alsways a good one, i also love Aldnoah Zero a lot, and Kill la Kill; great now i need to go fire up Libera me From Hell, MK Aliez and Blumenkratz (among others)....
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 23 June 2019, 22:13:02
Girls Und Panzer has a good soundtrack, even if most of it isn't original. Der Film has one of the best renditions of When Johnny Comes Marching Home I've ever heard.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Darth Nichos on 23 June 2019, 22:27:05
Finished watching episode 12 of Fairy Gone; great episode but am irked that I now have to wait till October for the rest of the season

Also finished off Ghost Hunt; tempted to try and track down the Light Novels
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 24 June 2019, 14:22:47
That Hollywood wants to make movies goes without saying. That they can't stop changing successful formulas because they think they know better is why they fail & are terrible at it.
Are Japan made live-action adaptations any better? :screw_loose:
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 24 June 2019, 14:34:32
Are Japan made live-action adaptations any better? :screw_loose:

You have a point there...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 24 June 2019, 14:53:57
Are Japan made live-action adaptations any better? :screw_loose:

Usually the romance/drama ones are, at least. Comedies usually lack impact, & the budget usually isn't there on the sci-fi side. Typically that's a lack of an ability to execute on a concept rather than a disregard for the original work.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Luciora on 24 June 2019, 17:01:28
Live action shows also suffer from not being able to expand properly on character development due to them being much shorter than the corresponding anime or manga.  Moyashimon is a good example, of being too short to properly explain some of the concepts and back history of the main characters.

Usually the romance/drama ones are, at least. Comedies usually lack impact, & the budget usually isn't there on the sci-fi side. Typically that's a lack of an ability to execute on a concept rather than a disregard for the original work.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Maingunnery on 26 June 2019, 17:18:19

Current season is almost completely done so lets talk about it.

Isekai Quartet: Good interactions between the various casts, however this season ended way too soon.
One Punch Man S2: Not yet done, but I can say that I am liking the story-lines more then the previous season.
Sewayaki Kitsune no Senko-san: Relaxing and surprisingly wholesome
Strike Witches - 501-butai Hasshin Shimasu!: 4Koma like parody of the show, I would recommend if one is familiar with Strike Witches and doesn't mind budget animation.
Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari (Shield Hero): Good quality and an especially fantastic last episode.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 26 June 2019, 23:02:07
I've been watching The Price of Smiles. Episode #11 don't seem to play for me. Is anyone else having the problem?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 27 June 2019, 09:31:02
Current season is almost completely done so lets talk about it.

I didn't watch much thos season because very little grabbed my attention. 

Sarazanmai was probably the best of the season as befits Ikuhara, although despite going all out on the visuals it felt like his messaging was very narrow & restrained, likely due to only having 12 episodes to work with.

The mofumofu in Senko-san was adorable, & it was a nice relaxing slice of life experience, as expected of Doga Kobo.

The Fruits Basket reboot is proceeding nicely, but right now we're still just retreading previous material. Quality is solid & I expect the second half will be great. More Kugyu-Kagura please!

Bokutachi wa Benkyo ga Dekinai has been one of the mote fun titles of the season for me, but the shift of focus to the teacher & childhood friend in recent episodes strikes as a meaningless plot cul de sac they could have skipped in a 13 episode series, there are at least another 7 volumes of manga past the end point.

I also enjoyed Hitoribocchi, but of the two I suspect the characters from Bokuben will stick with me long after Hitoribocchi's are a faded memory - most of them just lack emotional impact.

Strike Witches 501st Butai Hasshin Shimasu looks like spanked ass, but I love the original cast & I'm too many years into this franchise to back out now! besides, the gags were pretty funny!

Even with such an empty season, I just couldn't sustain the interest to finish Kenja no Mago - this waa about as vanilla & dull an isekai as they come.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 27 June 2019, 09:33:36

https://twitter.com/MikeRoach3/status/1142713208538578944?s=19
Oh wow that explain the translation choices in Evangelion since the 3rd film in Rebuild of Evangelion.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 27 June 2019, 10:20:03
You posted a link to Twitter!!?

Oh wow that explain the translation choices in Evangelion since the 3rd film in Rebuild of Evangelion.
On a more serious note, there has been bitching about liberal translations, whether dubbed or subbed. Do you know about the outrage that ensued with Prison School translation mentioning some Gamergate?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 27 June 2019, 12:23:31
Current season is almost completely done so lets talk about it.
As usual i'll comment on those no one watches.

Also, my anime of the season is definitely Senryuu Shoujo, mostly for actually sticking with the 5-7-5 and not going the usual "change the heroine for her romance" spiel.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 27 June 2019, 12:35:19
I've been watching The Price of Smiles. Episode #11 don't seem to play for me. Is anyone else having the problem?
Tried it with 2 computers and a number of WWW-browsers. No luck. Works on iPhone 4 with Crunchyroll app. Last episode works on computer. Will watch it in the morning along with breakfast.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 28 June 2019, 21:38:05
On a more serious note, there has been bitching about liberal translations, whether dubbed or subbed. Do you know about the outrage that ensued with Prison School translation mentioning some Gamergate?
Addendum: There has been voiced some displeasure about Funimation's translations, including mentioned Prison School. Assuming Khara got a wind of it, they may have decided that Funimation shall not frak up their anime like that. Does this theory make sense to you?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 01 July 2019, 09:18:18
From the various messages I've seen about it, one of which was posted before, what sparked it this was the reaction they saw from the showing of the movie at a Convention. I doubt other translations, for other studios, had anything to do with it. From all accounts, they've always been touchy when it comes to the Eva translations.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 03 July 2019, 13:47:38
Kanata no Astra started today.

Who said Lerche is suddenly allowed to make hard scifi?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 08 July 2019, 09:40:36
<wanders through the thread>


<drops something>
 (https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/genlock-sets-adult-swim-premiere-date-1203260586/)

<wanders out, whistling "Let the Good Times Roll">
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 08 July 2019, 10:44:23
Kanata no Astra started today.

Who said Lerche is suddenly allowed to make hard scifi?

Watched it yesterday - production was well-polished, but man if that cast isn't the slightest bit likeable!  :( I hope they grow on me, because otherwise this is a drop.

So far I've also caught Araburu Kisetsu no Otome-domo yo/O Maidens In Your Savage Season, Granbelm, Joshikosei no Mudazukai/Wasteful Days of High School Girls, & Re: Stage Dream Days. Still waiting on a number of other titles to air before settling on my watch list, but I think I'll be at sticking with these four at least! An idol anime like Re: Stage that doesn't cop out with CG for the performances is always worth a watch, & the magical girl super robots of Granbelm were hand-drawn with similar aplomb!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 08 July 2019, 11:32:06
Since we're talking about new & upcoming anime, I have watched first episode of Maou-sama / Demon Lord Retry! It is said to be animators' first job and it shows. I'm fan of the Web novel, so I'll stick through with it. Anime has some moments though, like major demon attacking the demon lord (protagonist):
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What the hell are you trying to pull?
;D
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 08 July 2019, 12:19:24
Still waiting on a number of other titles to air before settling on my watch list, but I think I'll be at sticking with these four at least!
Mmm, i had dropped all of those after a quick look in for first ep ;-)

Other than Kanata no Astra i'm so far sticking with Dr. Stone (for that beard, and almost only that), Maou-sama Retry (for the cigarettes), Sounan desu ka? (for that stinky comment), Dumbbell nan kilo moteru (for... nah, not the steroids), Tejina-senpai (for... i have no idea why, but it's not the fanservice) and somewhat oddly for me Naka no Hito Genome (for being an isekai so bad it kinda parodies a certain isekai parody).

Will probably add DanMachi to that if it's not too obnoxious this time. Possibly Sekai Saikyou - although i remember the manga not quite hitting my tastes for isekai it wasn't as bad an experience as the other two remaining isekai anime this season. Accelerator might be worth a look, but i've already had about enough Index this year.

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 08 July 2019, 13:41:27
Started reading the manga a while ago.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 08 July 2019, 14:05:39
Started reading the manga a while ago.
For your information, manga cuts whole lot, like visit to Aku's village. Anime has at least that, but it may cut elsewhere.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 10 July 2019, 06:54:41
The second episode of To the Abandoned Sacred Beasts really gave me a True Grit feeling :)

This may become my favorite show of the season.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 12 July 2019, 08:59:36
Anyone else got the feeling that they'd really want to see Dumbbell turn into a gender-bent Hajime no Ippo parody with that scene in episode 2 ?

Edit: Time for a new profile picture. Last one was two seasons old.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 12 July 2019, 14:42:20
Haven't spotted that one yet, what service?

Matti, of the new shows, who is more adorable. Aku or Latina (If It's for My Daughter, I'd Even Defeat a Demon Lord)?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 12 July 2019, 16:57:21
Haven't spotted that one yet, what service?
Funimation.

The author of Dumbbell also did Kengan Asura, a gladiatorial-fighting-themed manga (... the best-selling one in that genre over the last five years) that'll have a 3DCG adaption on Netflix later this month. It takes place in the same universe and there's been a cameo in Dumbbell already.

Kadokawa has also released an official live-action version of the OP video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pECnr5MNuU) with pro wrestler Reika Saiki, who's also done the same for UchaMaid for them (the video references that even).
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 12 July 2019, 18:22:21
ep 1 of S2 DanMachi is up. Hope they do the War Game arc justice. They did their best to make Apollo creepy enough xp
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 12 July 2019, 21:37:26
ep 1 of S2 DanMachi is up. Hope they do the War Game arc justice. They did their best to make Apollo creepy enough xp

Agreed.

I really liked that change of costume for Hestia at the ball (the blue gown). Liked how they did Aiz and Bell dancing. Bell is the star of the show but my top 3 favorite characters are Aiz, Ryu and Mikoto.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 15 July 2019, 16:02:23
of the new shows, who is more adorable. Aku or Latina (If It's for My Daughter, I'd Even Defeat a Demon Lord)?
You forgot the third option - Yue from Arifureta...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: grimlock1 on 16 July 2019, 07:10:03
Started watching Record of Grancrest.
No knucklhead shonen heroes.
Okay, most of the female cast still have stripperific outfits, but they aren't just ditzes there for eye candy.

I'm liking this so far.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 16 July 2019, 12:32:44
Most shows are about 2 episodes in now...

First episode of A Certain Scientific Accelerator dropped. It seems to be set just after Index I. As much as I don't care for the creep at all, I love the ToAru setting, so here I am!

I didn't see anyone mention Cop Craft yet, but if you like old Studio Gonzo anime from the late 90s/early aughts, this is your show! Script.by Full Metal Panic's Shoji Gato, character designs by Ast Exile's Range Murata. Hardboiled modern/fantasy crossover detective story with a bitter police detective teaming up with an otherworldly paladin! Great stuff!

Machikado Mazoku reminds me a bit of Gabriel Dropout, but the cast & humor is a lot more agreeable to me! The magical girl's concern for "Shadow Mistress Yuko" is just great!

Granbelm's plot episode arrived. The short version is that it's robot magical girl Fate/Stay Night. I like all of those things! Looking forward to seeing what Rosa does next, I can't believe we've seen the last of her!

Speaking of Fate, Lord El Melloi's Case Files is off to a great start! By all appearances, this looks to be an modern occult Sherlock Holmes analog, & I'm completely on board for that journey!

Finally, Danmachi's back! Hestia is still bestia! The table is set, now to see where the latest conflict leads!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 16 July 2019, 14:27:41
Cop Craft is interesting. Pseudo-Alien Nation in it's set up, but seems like it has potential.

Granblem adds chibi-like mecha into a F/SN type mix. This could be a interesting show.

About the only other show I'm following this season is Astra Lost in Space. The double-length opener was decent enough. I'm not sure the balance of humor and drama is quite right yet though.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: DarkSpade on 16 July 2019, 17:09:51
Cop Craft sounds really interesting, but I really wasn't expecting the paladin to be a moe girl.  It's a bit of a turn off, but the concept sounds cool enough that I'll add it to my watch list.

Feels weird thinking that since my view history lately would suggest moe+anything=win.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 16 July 2019, 17:21:26
moe+anything=win.

Your viewing history knows what your mind refuses to admit!  ;D
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 17 July 2019, 08:57:32
You forgot the third option - Yue from Arifureta...

Haven't seen that one, may have to check it out. Any good?

Finally, Danmachi's back! Hestia is still bestia! The table is set, now to see where the latest conflict leads!

Yet, can't wait to see how it turns out. I wonder if it will cover the War Game and the rabbit run in the brothels.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 17 July 2019, 09:21:33
Granbelm combined magical girls with mecha. It's catnip for me.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 17 July 2019, 22:01:48
As of 30 minutes ago, NHK reports Kyoto Animation is on fire from a gas explosion, with 8 people seriously injured, & arson suspected. My thoughts are with all Kyoani's artists today - here's hoping everyone comes through! :'(
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 17 July 2019, 22:13:40
Started watching Record of Grancrest.
No knucklhead shonen heroes.
Okay, most of the female cast still have stripperific outfits, but they aren't just ditzes there for eye candy.

I'm liking this so far.

The primary male character seems to be slightly on the knucklehead side, but at least he's not just charging out to show that he's got the Japanese Spirit every fight.  He isn't truly the protagonist, either.

Also, all the characters who sign up with him actually have their own interests rather than just thinking he's so awesome they have to follow him around.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 17 July 2019, 22:42:46
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2019/07/7cc0f7f7c6e2-dozens-injured-in-fire-after-man-sprays-liquid-at-kyoto-anime-studio.html

They're now up to 40 wounded, one possible dead.  No further information at this time.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 17 July 2019, 22:56:40
That is seriously bad news.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 18 July 2019, 00:10:20
Well at least from this ANN Article (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2019-07-17/kyoto-police-multiple-deaths-confirmed-in-kyoto-animation-fire/.149101), Local Police are stating "Multiple Deaths".
At least they have a suspect in custody. But still...A sad day indeed...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 18 July 2019, 00:37:33
Just got video of the site from a helicopter, the building's gutted completely.  The fire department's still putting it out as of the time the video was taken, you can see flames inside, but literally every window and door is blown out and smoke & charring from the flames is visible at the top of each opening. 

One person confirmed dead, but there is now breaking word on Kyodo news that ten bodies have been found inside.  No word on who.  The perpetrator is a 41 year old male, in custody, and no further information available.

Kyoani's gone.  Whatever was in that building is ash.

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 18 July 2019, 02:14:07
What in the actual ****...

Jeebus.  Prayers for those people and their families.

Is there something they made that was unusually controversial?  Looking at KyoAni's history of productions I don't see something right off that could even have possibly prompted a fan's backlash, at least not right off.  I know that insane people do things for insane reasons but is there something I'm not aware of that could have prompted this?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Luciora on 18 July 2019, 02:18:18
Best guess right now is disgruntled current / former employee.  Won't know until they release the suspect's name.

What in the actual ****...

Jeebus.  Prayers for those people and their families.

Is there something they made that was unusually controversial?  Looking at KyoAni's history of productions I don't see something right off that could even have possibly prompted a fan's backlash, at least not right off.  I know that insane people do things for insane reasons but is there something I'm not aware of that could have prompted this?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 18 July 2019, 03:37:18
Unlikely to be a disgruntled employee but possible.  KyoAni's regarded as the BEST place to work at, they even have a nursery for children of employees on the second floor.

Yes, I know what that means, I'm REALLY ******* trying not to think about it.

23 dead now, though they've confirmed series and film directors Tatsuya Ishihara and Taichi Ishidate are alive. Haven't seen any other names mentioned yet.

Police have not yet identified the arsonist, but they did say he was not a former employee or anyone affiliated with the company.  It looks like it was a deranged fan, then.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 18 July 2019, 05:40:40
I don't even want to believe how bad this is. Some random piece of shit being able to walk up & off so many people & cut a beloved company off at the knees is hard to accept as being possible.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 18 July 2019, 08:12:26
Well the body count is 25 according to a article on CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/18/asia/kyoto-animation-fire-intl-hnk/index.html).

Yes, I stated CNN. This has made serious news.

I just can't believe why someone would do this...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 18 July 2019, 08:21:51
According to the NHK it's 33. Worst mass murder in Japan post war. This dwarfs the Tokyo sarin attacks. It's the top international story on the BBC.

Rumor is the individual forced his way in at knife point before spraying & igniting a gasoline like substance, then barricaded people in the building. Bystanders reported hearing him yell "You ripped me off! You stole my idea!" Absolutely disgusting that this waste of space decided to take his imagined grievances out on innocent animators & clerks....
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 18 July 2019, 08:48:47
From my understanding, this is one of three buildings KyoAni had. That said, the building in question is where they trained their staff, and stored their archives. Just a massive blow all around. Hopefully they're able to recover, but there's going to be a lot of psychological scarring here. Just a horrible, senseless waste.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Luciora on 18 July 2019, 09:00:07
The archives are a serious loss, after the staff.  The two shows of note I really enjoyed from them were Full Metal Panic Fumoffu and Amagi Brilliant Park. 

From my understanding, this is one of three buildings KyoAni had. That said, the building in question is where they trained their staff, and stored their archives. Just a massive blow all around. Hopefully they're able to recover, but there's going to be a lot of psychological scarring here. Just a horrible, senseless waste.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 18 July 2019, 10:25:22
Yasuhiro Takemoto, director of Lucky Star, Amagi Brilliant Park, Hyoka & FMP is still missing.  :'(
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 18 July 2019, 11:05:58
This is tragically sad. Sick and deranged people exist everywhere and there's just no way to predict when they do crap. God rest those souls that were lost.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Maingunnery on 18 July 2019, 11:06:30
What a horrific attack, I am hoping for the best but this is so bad.  :'(

Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 18 July 2019, 12:33:03
It'll be a while before we have names of the lost.  The police, from what I read, don't release those at all; they're only given out by the doctors who declare the identity of the deceased after their own investigation.  I'm sure that once there's a final list they'll make it public, but until then it's a wait.

Unfortunately considering the immediately local nature of the event, that it's not widespread, and that everyone HAS been accounted for in the building, anyone currently on a 'missing' list is very likely not to be on a 'survivor' list.  Unfortunately that list includes Yasuhiro Takemoto, director of most of their biggest shows inlcuding Full Metal Panic sequels and the Haruhi series & film, and took over from Yutaka Yamamoto after he was fired from Lucky Star.  Yamamoto's harsh comments on the fire in reply to Makoto Shinkai's concern have...strongly angered thousands of fans, shall we say.

Sentai Filmworks has the gofundme set up to support the victims; they're past $800,000 already in donations.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 18 July 2019, 12:49:31
Unfortunately considering the immediately local nature of the event, that it's not widespread, and that everyone HAS been accounted for in the building, anyone currently on a 'missing' list is very likely not to be on a 'survivor' list. 

Indeed. Kyoani's twitter account for FREE! has announced the cancellation of next year's movie, which leads me to fear the worst for Futoshi Nishiya as well.


Quote
Yamamoto's harsh comments on the fire in reply to Makoto Shinkai's concern have...strongly angered thousands of fans, shall we say.

As if we needed proof there isn't a single situation Yamakan wouldn't try to make about himself, there he was being his regular, disgusting self.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 18 July 2019, 14:45:07
Indeed. Kyoani's twitter account for FREE! has announced the cancellation of next year's movie, which leads me to fear the worst for Futoshi Nishiya as well.
Has that been confirmed?  Last I'd heard they canceled an upcoming announcement that was supposed to be later this week, but that the movie itself had not been.  From what I understand, this was their primary animation building, so a cancellation of the movie may simply be because of lost work and not Nishiya's death.

They've announced 12 men, 20 women, and one unspecified are among the dead.  I still haven't seen a list of missing yet.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 18 July 2019, 15:32:26
Has that been confirmed?

https://soranews24.com/2019/07/18/death-toll-in-anime-studio-arson-attack-climbs-to-33-movie-production-cancelled/
 (https://soranews24.com/2019/07/18/death-toll-in-anime-studio-arson-attack-climbs-to-33-movie-production-cancelled/)

If you don't trust my reading of the tweet, you can rely on Soranews24's.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 18 July 2019, 15:43:22
Oh I believe you; I'd just heard initially some confusion about the movie and early on that only a PR thing had been canceled.  This doesn't surprise me, in all honesty.  Do we know what else Kyoani was working on at the time?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: God and Davion on 18 July 2019, 15:47:34
It is a horrible, horrible thing. Tragic and grotesque. Thoughts and prayers.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 18 July 2019, 16:23:51
Oh I believe you; I'd just heard initially some confusion about the movie and early on that only a PR thing had been canceled.  This doesn't surprise me, in all honesty.  Do we know what else Kyoani was working on at the time?

In addition to the Free film, they should be working on two Violet Evergarden films.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 18 July 2019, 16:58:18
One Violet Evergarden film and one Hibike Euphonium film. Plus a OVA for Baja no Studio (anime project based on KyoAni's mascot) which was supposed to release in November.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: beachhead1985 on 18 July 2019, 17:20:41
I'm really sorry this happened.

Anymore it's a case of; "Anywhere, any time for any reason."
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: DarkSpade on 18 July 2019, 17:26:39
WGN reports the studio had received several death threats over the last few years.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 18 July 2019, 17:44:09
That's nothing particularly special for animation studios in Japan.

Gainax had death threats sprayed as graffiti on their front door a couple times at some point.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Siden Pryde on 18 July 2019, 21:17:10
That is horrible news.  :'(  Thoughts and prayers for the staff and their loved ones.  Can't wrap my head around how someone can be so broken as to do something so monstrous like that.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 18 July 2019, 21:26:51
That's nothing particularly special for animation studios in Japan.

Gainax had death threats sprayed as graffiti on their front door a couple times at some point.
And a long history of harassment and threats to the mangaka for Kuroko no Basuke, and threats against Aya Hirano because she got married...there's a splinter of anime fandom that makes Modern Internet Star Wars Fans look cheerful, well adjusted, and completely functional.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Luciora on 18 July 2019, 21:47:23
All fandoms have a section of fans that just take it too far to the point of thinking they own the work or artist by being so overly obsessed with the work done.  As soon as some change occurs, it's their perceived duty to fix it according to their own view.  Sometimes it can end with a broken heart and swearing off the material other times it goes the extreme to stalking, extreme threats and violence.

It's just more noticable in a smaller more homogeneous society.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 19 July 2019, 06:01:09
and threats against Aya Hirano because she got married...

The unacceptable behavior against Hirano was completely real, but to my knowledge Aya Hirano has never been married...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Istal_Devalis on 19 July 2019, 09:06:55
And in not unexpected news, the Fire Force anime has gone on hiatus. I wont be surprised if Promare gets delayed, either.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-07-19/fire-force-anime-halts-friday-planned-airing-streaming-of-3rd-episode/.149134
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 19 July 2019, 09:32:45
Yeah, that was to be expected.

Japanese media is reporting one patient has died in hospital overnight. Death toll is now 34.  :'(
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Maingunnery on 19 July 2019, 14:30:11
...there's a splinter of anime fandom that makes Modern Internet Star Wars Fans look cheerful, well adjusted, and completely functional.
Those people would have been mentally unwell regardless if they were fan or not.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 19 July 2019, 18:03:12
The unacceptable behavior against Hirano was completely real, but to my knowledge Aya Hirano has never been married...
I might be thinking of someone else then, but I swear that's what I'd read.  Wouldn't be the first time.

Has there been any others who've checked in as alive on Twitter?  r/anime's been collating everything they can but the list of known survivors and known missing is still pretty small.  Of the former, Naoko Yamada, Tatsuya Ishihara, Miku Kadowaki, and Yoshida Reiko are confirmed safe.  There's questions on Eisaku Kawanami and Kazumi Ikeda, as well as Takeda Ishidate; no official word on any of them.  And still status unknown at all is Yasuhiro Takemoto.

Apparently they were expecting visitors or a tour group for the day, hence the building was left wide open so that people could come in and see the place.  Kind of an open-house day, showing off what they do.

And in not unexpected news, the Fire Force anime has gone on hiatus. I wont be surprised if Promare gets delayed, either.
Still in production, though; they just announced it hits Toonami on July 27.  So they'll be producing it for the US market, but giving it a delay in airing in Japan apparently.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 27 July 2019, 10:37:23
Tried the first episode of Cop Craft.

In addition to being annoyed by loli content, I found the brutal storm of Buddy Cop Movie cliches tiring.  If they had played it more tongue in cheek it would have been one thing, but as it was they were playing everything as seriously as possible without any acknowledgement of how stereotypical everything is.

Also watched Rising of the Shield Hero.  It's refreshing to see a shonen protagonist who isn't suffering from a terminal case of stupidity, but RPG mechanics Iseki stories are getting overdone.  Also joked with some friends about how much more interesting it would be to see someone who winds up in one of those worlds decide that it's past time to tear down the feudal society and install a modern representative government in its place.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 28 July 2019, 08:00:54

Also watched Rising of the Shield Hero.  It's refreshing to see a shonen protagonist who isn't suffering from a terminal case of stupidity, but RPG mechanics Iseki stories are getting overdone.  Also joked with some friends about how much more interesting it would be to see someone who winds up in one of those worlds decide that it's past time to tear down the feudal society and install a modern representative government in its place.
I think there's several manga like that, one is How a Realist Hero Rebuilt the Kingdom and there was another one with a group of super geniuses "crashing" with their plane into a fantasy world. More like SUPERNATURAL geniuses though.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Sharpnel on 28 July 2019, 11:54:10
Just finished binge watching one of the saddest animes ever, called 'Your Lie in April.' A very good story that was told told well and featured some outstanding music. A good watch overall.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 31 July 2019, 17:32:00
Not an Anime...but its Space R/C Battleship Yamato! (https://youtu.be/4N4iUA_aNww?t=158)  ;)

(https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=61792.0;attach=53918)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 31 July 2019, 18:22:13
Taking the "space is an ocean" trope entirely too literally.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 31 July 2019, 20:59:14
I watched the video where they had it in the water a few years back. Still cool to watch now.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 01 August 2019, 13:33:35
If only they armed with BB guns in the turrets and fought a Gamelon Battleship, then they'd get a crowds going (or running).
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 01 August 2019, 13:37:26
Started watching Lucky Star.

I don't understand this show and I can't stop watching it.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: DarkSpade on 01 August 2019, 13:57:07
Started watching Lucky Star.

I don't understand this show and I can't stop watching it.

The scene where they're sitting there talking about the right way to eat a pastry(first scene?) is what got me.  It was dumb at first, but then I realized I've more or less had the same conversation with friends.

Friend of mine calls it anime Seinfeld.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 01 August 2019, 14:28:58
Started watching Lucky Star.

I don't understand this show and I can't stop watching it.

That seems to be everyone's initial reaction!  ;D

The first few episodes seem kind of dull & by every right should bore you to death, but for some strange reason it's infectious & you just keep watching until you love it!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 02 August 2019, 21:21:34
Anyone recognize this character and know what show they're from?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 02 August 2019, 21:37:34
Looks like a character from a 70s or 80s American cartoon.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 02 August 2019, 21:54:21
Anyone recognize this character and know what show they're from?

Google image search turns up only a dead 4chan link about fan redraws.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 02 August 2019, 23:16:33
That's probably what it is, then, just fanart.  That's all I'd found, myself.  Thanks!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Orin J. on 03 August 2019, 00:52:39
Anyone recognize this character and know what show they're from?

i turned it up, but they're not from a show, they're the work of some character designer spitballing ideas for a project they'd like to do someday.
https://twitter.com/MikkuSushi/status/1154275251141959681
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 03 August 2019, 10:27:17
Well, the first OVA for That Time I Got Reincarnated As A Slime is up.

Like the second season of the show, it pretty much demonstrates that the writer ran out of ideas after the orc invasion arc and just gave us more anime cliches.  At least they lampshade the fanservice by having the guys posing in skimpy swimsuits right after the ladies do.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 03 August 2019, 12:11:02
Actually, it's more like they had to pick random stuff out of the underlaying material since it continues in major arcs after where the anime caught up to it.

They could have made a nice OVA series (with fanservice and all) out of the usa-girl spinoff though.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 03 August 2019, 12:44:33
Neat, nice find Orin.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 03 August 2019, 13:00:38
Well this is interesting...
TMS Entertainment's Anime Youtube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzGf0DdUJVrsbcWL3e_tK1Q) has added a playlist and first three eps (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj2Ugc-vxcWEqLFQies9QFOwAC6MgC-J_), English Dub, of Magic Knight Rayearth.
What's nice is while the ep is the Media Blasters' English Dub, the OP and EP are the original Japanese. Such nostalgia. I rather enjoy MKR.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Luciora on 03 August 2019, 13:14:50
Still wish I picked up the Sega RPG for it.  I actually have a SM CD signed by the voice actresses somewhere too.

Well this is interesting...
TMS Entertainment's Anime Youtube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzGf0DdUJVrsbcWL3e_tK1Q) has added a playlist and first three eps (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj2Ugc-vxcWEqLFQies9QFOwAC6MgC-J_), English Dub, of Magic Knight Rayearth.
What's nice is while the ep is the Media Blasters' English Dub, the OP and EP are the original Japanese. Such nostalgia. I rather enjoy MKR.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: DarkSpade on 04 August 2019, 08:39:22
Don't know if anyone here has played it, but the anime RPG BESM (Big Eyes, Small Mouth) is currently kickstarting their 4th edition.  Ends in a few days.  Never noticed that it was Japanime Games doing it until I saw their pamphlet at Gencon.

Speaking of Japanime, I picked up what looks like it should be a very fun game.  The game itself is a harem anime.  Each player's goal is to make sure "best girl" gets the protagonist in the end.  It's a bummer that the girls are handed out at random so you don't get to pick your favorite trope, but at least that should help avoid any fist fights over the Genki Girl.  ;D
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 04 August 2019, 09:55:04
Speaking of Japanime, I picked up what looks like it should be a very fun game.  The game itself is a harem anime.  Each player's goal is to make sure "best girl" gets the protagonist in the end.  It's a bummer that the girls are handed out at random so you don't get to pick your favorite trope, but at least that should help avoid any fist fights over the Genki Girl.  ;D

Love Battle High School is real fun, especially with 4-5 players! Nobody picks a "best girl", though! It's essentially a wagering game where you put down a bet on the one you think will win Shujinko-kun & then work to make it happen! Good times!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 04 August 2019, 10:29:34
Speaking of Japanime, I picked up what looks like it should be a very fun game.  The game itself is a harem anime.  Each player's goal is to make sure "best girl" gets the protagonist in the end.  It's a bummer that the girls are handed out at random so you don't get to pick your favorite trope, but at least that should help avoid any fist fights over the Genki Girl.  ;D

Sounds similar to one I'm playing online right now: High School Harem Comedy RPG.

The game has been fun, as we're trying to A) fend off all the NPCs trying to get the protagonist for themselves, B) Get the protagonist for ourselves, C) prevent the clueless protagonist from figuring out that he's the only human in a high school full of youkai.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ghostbear_Gurdel on 04 August 2019, 21:39:07
Am i the only one a little disappointed with the most recent DanMachi episode? Don't misunderstand, it was fun and good, and a very plausible plan, but with all the build-up it seems a bit of a waste to win the wargame in just one episode....
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 04 August 2019, 22:15:13
The war game arc did feel a little rushed overall. It has been awhile since I read the LN so I don't remember how long this arc lasted compared to the brothel arc (as I call it).

Even disappointed I have enjoyed this season so far.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 04 August 2019, 22:37:14
I absolutely loved it because I got to see more of Lyu kicking butt!.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 05 August 2019, 04:33:14
The pacing itself didn't bother me - honestly anything more would have felt like that single battle had been dragged out to kill time! The only way I coud be disappointed is if what is to follow winds up comparatively uninteresting...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Notsonoble on 06 August 2019, 15:03:30
For someone who enjoyed Another, When They Cry, what should I be watching now?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 14 August 2019, 00:05:06
Trying Astra Lost In Space

Show would be improved by the addition of a living ship filled with strange alien life.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 17 August 2019, 09:05:52
Cannon Busters showed up on Netflix.

It's like Trigun and Space Dandy had a baby that was given to a really gory show to raise.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 17 August 2019, 15:02:25
Liked Trigun but haven't watched Space Dandy. Will have to give a pair of shows a try it seems.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Charlie Tango on 17 August 2019, 16:07:25

Ended up binging through Overlord in the run up to and wind down from Gen Con.

Really liking a lot of things about the aesthetic of the show overall (even if it is a  somewhat-standard wish fulfillment isekai underneath)


Just wish that there was something that was a bigger threat to him and the Tomb folks overall.  So far his biggest and most threatening fights have been against his own team members...
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 18 August 2019, 09:18:01
So far its like that in the LN too and has him both annoyed and relieved by it lol

I do hope they do another season. The next few books have more of a RPG followed by world building theme to them. Not sure what the author has planned for Slane or any of the other kingdoms after v13.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 18 August 2019, 21:19:33
Ep 7 To The Abandoned Sacred Beasts

Well done Schaal, you're all grown up now: your calendar age is immaterial. Even that old sergeant can't dispute that. You had a hard choice to make while standing in a place just as hard, and you did well, as much as it tore you up to do it.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 28 August 2019, 21:55:55
Tried Dr Stone.

Everyone on this show is annoying.  Nobody has personalities, they just have shonen stereotypes.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 29 August 2019, 01:07:25
After reading the description of Dr Stone I decided to pass on it. Sounds like I made the right call.

As for To The Abandoned Sacred Beasts I watched the first episode but couldn't really get into it. May try and binge watch the rest at a later time.

I hope we get some really good shows next season
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Post by: Istal_Devalis on 29 August 2019, 09:19:52
Dr Stone is very Shonen, but its main character isnt. No victory via power of friendship, or training arcs for him. SCIENCE!
That said, I'm glad Taiji got put on a bus. He annoyed the hell out of me and I came close to not giving the show a chance because of it.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 29 August 2019, 09:58:20
Dr Stone is very Shonen, but its main character isnt. No victory via power of friendship, or training arcs for him. SCIENCE!

Except that it handles science in traditional Shonen style: the character is a teenage supergenius with knowledge equivalent to multiple PhDs in numerous unrelated fields of science who can develop anything he wants to IN A CAVE!  WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS! on the first try.  There's no trial and error and no actual science involved, he just knows stuff and does a perfect job at creating it (except for trying to make brandy).  If there had been six characters who'd pooled their minds and resources to do what he was doing, it would have been more tolerable.  Also if the show didn't insist that the guy actually counted out three thousand years worth of seconds in his head without making a mistake.
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Post by: Matti on 29 August 2019, 13:12:38
So he's a spark then?
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 29 August 2019, 13:31:22
No. Sparks explicitly have a form of insanity and are more comedic.

He's a boringly OP anime protagonist.
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Post by: Matti on 29 August 2019, 22:52:16
Frame Arms Girl has flying drones (or robots?) carrying Frame Arms dolls and their accessories. I just read something similar is now reality: flying drones deliver food in Finland and in some other countries, and blood samples in Switzerland. One more step into the future. Now to wait for independently moving dolls with varying personalities :thumbsup:
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Post by: Istal_Devalis on 30 August 2019, 09:57:06
There's no trial and error and no actual science involved, he just knows stuff and does a perfect job at creating it (except for trying to make brandy).  If there had been six characters who'd pooled their minds and resources to do what he was doing, it would have been more tolerable.  Also if the show didn't insist that the guy actually counted out three thousand years worth of seconds in his head without making a mistake.
Just because they glance over a lot of it, doesnt mean there's no trial and error involved (And a lot of what he's doing so far is basic chemistry and engineering). All those stone birds he had lined up were previous test cases, after all. There was also an extended flashback from before his friend work up going over a bunch of his previous bits of learning curve. Granted, most of this was AFTER his friend left, and the village entered the equation.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 03 September 2019, 11:24:45
So, catching up on Iron Blooded Orphans, I decided to rematch the first season, and CR has it dubbed.  It's amazing the difference I see with the change in voice-acting.  Maybe part of it isn't me having to keep up with subtitles, and finally noticing small things I missed the first time, like facial expressions.  But, overall, the american voice-acting makes Mikazuki less the stoic living weapon, and someone likable.

This has actually improved the show, for me. Too bad the second season is subtitled only, so far.

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Post by: Wrangler on 03 September 2019, 14:57:14
Is it me?, Does anime these days seem to me isn't doing so well with content.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 03 September 2019, 15:03:21
Is it me?, Does anime these days seem to me isn't doing so well with content.

Define "these days", "so well" & "content". I happen to be enjoying a lot of this current season - Danmachi, Granbelm, Lord El Melloi - I'm getting all the action, comedy, mystery & drama I desire with the charming characters I crave!

The last three years have each seen one of the best anime made I've ever seen - Flip Flappers in 2016, Princess Principal in 2017, & Revue Starlight in 2018. That 2019 hasn't produced a top 1% anime like those yet doesn't strike me as a sign of drastic decline.
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Post by: Maingunnery on 03 September 2019, 15:29:08

This season is decent, what I am watching:

Cop Craft - A buddy cop show that does tackle some issues.
Dumbbell Nan Kilo Moteru - Light ecchi sport comedy, catchy song and a bit informative
Granbelm - Keychain mecha show, the story is better than the action.
Kanata no Astra - Scifi with mysteries and twists
Machikado Mazoku - Light hearted magical girl parody
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 03 September 2019, 19:34:15
I keep getting told to pick up El Melloi files.  Anyone watching?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 03 September 2019, 19:35:53
I keep getting told to pick up El Melloi files.  Anyone watching?

Yep! It's Sherlock Holmes where Sherlock Holmes is Waver Velvet from Fate/Zero as an adult, the mysteries are all occult, & just about every ancillary Fate character crashes the party at some point! It's marvelous!
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Post by: Charlie Tango on 04 September 2019, 08:05:30
Define "these days", "so well" & "content". I happen to be enjoying a lot of this current season - Danmachi, Granbelm, Lord El Melloi - I'm getting all the action, comedy, mystery & drama I desire with the charming characters I crave!

Having seen the first season of Danmachi recently, has the second season lived up to the promise of the first?

It seems to me that we are getting a lot of great anime content over the past few years. I'm curious as well as to what is lacking.
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Post by: Istal_Devalis on 04 September 2019, 08:50:56
Danmachi Season 2: The first arc rushed things a bit in order to hit the 2nd arc faster, but that one's doing pretty well so far.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 04 September 2019, 10:10:18
Having seen the first season of Danmachi recently, has the second season lived up to the promise of the first?

I think so! We're finally starting to see Hestia Familia move up from homeless nobodies to a proper adventurer association! The politicking between the Gods is really starting to pick up, & the drama is mounting right along with it. There's barely been any time spent in the dungeon, but that hasn't meant the slightest drop in action as Familia vs Familia has become a greater focus - great stuff!
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Post by: Charlie Tango on 04 September 2019, 10:18:21
I think so! We're finally starting to see Hestia Familia move up from homeless nobodies to a proper adventurer association! The politickinf between the Gods is really starting to pick up, & the drama is mounting right along with it. There's barely been any time spent in the dungeon, but that hasn't meant the slightest drop in action as Familia vs Familia has become a greater focus - great stuff!
 

Oh good.  I'm hoping Hulu will get the dub after the season finishes.
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Post by: Daemion on 06 September 2019, 10:29:58
Been on a Gundam kick, lately. Finished Build-Fighters season 1.  Don't see why there's a season 2, but I'll get to it eventually.  Really liked the concept, although the alternaworlds invasion thing was different.

Gundam the Origin was neat.  Liked seeing the rise of Char and Zeon, as well as some of the key events leading up to the one year war.  Really longing for a facelift to the original Gundam Series.  I got into Gundam off the movie trilogy on VHS.  Think I gave that away, or sold it.  But, all I want to see is a facelift in animation.  Don't need to redo the voice acting or dialogue.

As I said, started rematching Iron Blooded Orphans to get into season 2, and the dub has made a difference on my outlook of the key main character.

Not having seen all of Thunderbolt, yet, I'm  also interested in seeing something less preachy out of Gundam, and maybe more of a series of honest war stories. War in the Pocket was good in that regard. 8th MS team was okay, but it had some preachy elements near the end.  Stardust Memories was also up there in being good, but like 8th MS team, had some cringe moments.

Almost want to watch them again. 

Anyway, that's where I'm at.  I'm also slowly working through Cells at Work.  A fun one so far that I don't have to watch through multiple episode arcs.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 08 September 2019, 09:58:20
I just watched Shad(iversity)'s first impressions / reaction to first episode of Vinland Saga anime. He makes a comparison to Viking sagas. I do remember reading something about a viking sailing over the land and mountains. So yeah, that's a good point he makes there. Manga version don't seem so stupidly over-the-top now.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Daemion on 16 September 2019, 14:07:37
Huh. Even though we get a masked man mid-season 1 of Iron-blooded orphans, I get the impression that the two Gyallarhorn knights are this world's equivalent of Char and Garma from the original UC series.  I just noticed.

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Post by: Maingunnery on 18 September 2019, 14:39:15

Everyone watching Dumbbell Nan Kilo Moteru, when watching the final episode make sure to see the last end scene as it is very sweet and cute.
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Post by: kato on 18 September 2019, 15:28:40
So, for the new season...

Finally upon us is:

And then we suddenly get a second series for Z/X, season two of Granblue... and finally, finally season three of Chihayafuru... and someone's finally going to complete the adaption of Cooking Master Boy with a sequel only twenty years after the first series. Rejoice for that.
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Post by: DarkSpade on 18 September 2019, 17:41:45
Looking forward to Azur Lane.  The side mission events in the game have had some good stories so there's potential there.  I may have to give in and stream this one though.  I'm assuming an English dub is unlikely.
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Post by: HobbesHurlbut on 18 September 2019, 19:33:09
So, for the new season...

Finally upon us is:
  • the isekai that i dropped the manga of after one chapter (Choyoyu) and the thing i dropped about two seasons ago but does well in the US foremost (Boku no Hero Academia)
  • the chinese copy of KanColle (Azur Lane)... and if you're not into anthropomorphized ships try the anthropomorphized swords (Tenka Hyakken, the other mobage adaption)
  • the feels-like-25th adaption of Fate (Grand Order) and the feels-like-125th adaption of Gundam (Build Divers Re:Rise... seriously)
  • the continuation of the one that people think is a cartoon (Radiant) and a continuation that will be ruined in art style by change of studio (Nanatsu no Taizai)
  • the continuation of the continuation that people though wasn't particularly good for an ailing franchise (SAO Alicization War of Underwold) and the continuation of the split of the continuation of the series that people thought season one was the only worthwhile (Shokugeki no Soma)
  • they're also digging really dip into the bottom pile regarding isekai now, adapting "I Said Make My Abilities Average" and "Ascendance of a Bookworm" (guess it's time for the girls to get their isekai turn on screen)... oh, and Kemonomichi. Can't forget about that - after all it's countering all that estrogen with an extra dose of testosteron for the main character.
  • Series 5 of Aikatsu. Just thought i'd mention it, given it's been trying to convince people that this episode is not just last week's episode again for a continuous 27 cours and 354 episodes now. Apparently Kagayaki no Jewel (Series 4) didn't sell enough cards, otherwise they wouldn't have dropped it after only 26 episodes.

And then we suddenly get a second series for Z/X, season two of Granblue... and finally, finally season three of Chihayafuru... and someone's finally going to complete the adaption of Cooking Master Boy with a sequel only twenty years after the first series. Rejoice for that.
I like to point out that Azur Lane is more....popular than Koncolle which seems to be restricted to its own market in Japan
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Post by: MadCapellan on 18 September 2019, 19:56:33
  • the chinese copy improvement of KanColle (Azur Lane)...
I am so stoked for this! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkh-k68dRbM) Not only is Azur Lane an awesome game that has given me a ballin' Royal Navy fleet with not one, but TWO ships voiced by Rie Kugimiya, but the anime is being animated by the director of Kiniro Mosaic's Bibury Studio!

Preview for those looking to see what to expect! (picture quality is low because it was ripped from a Nico stream) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTcdW5btAAg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTcdW5btAAg)
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Post by: Luciora on 19 September 2019, 00:14:45
Definitely more enjoyable to me than Kancolle.  Been keeping up with some of the mangas, and I like that it's fun reading and not tedious.  Still have some issues with the character fan service, and I'm preferring my Royal fleet over the Eagles simply because they have better fashion sense too.

I am so stoked for this! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkh-k68dRbM) Not only is Azur Lane an awesome game that has given me a ballin' Royal Navy fleet with not one, but TWO ships voiced by Rie Kugimiya, but the anime is being animated by the director of Kiniro Mosaic's Bibury Studio!

Preview for those looking to see what to expect! (picture quality is low because it was ripped from a Nico stream) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTcdW5btAAg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTcdW5btAAg)
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 19 September 2019, 06:07:55
Went a bit old school tonight binge watching Dallos (4 ep OVA) and currently a few ep into Cosmo Warrior Zero. Anyone seen these?
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Post by: Dies Irae on 19 September 2019, 10:11:25
Definitely more enjoyable to me than Kancolle.  Been keeping up with some of the mangas, and I like that it's fun reading and not tedious.  Still have some issues with the character fan service, and I'm preferring my Royal fleet over the Eagles simply because they have better fashion sense too.

Well there's a better quality trailer here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRFVIQRv1gY

Also, I thought I was the only strange bird who was running a Mono Faction HMS Fleet (with the exception of the adorable Gato Swarm providing sub support). I wonder how long this will last before Chapter 13 kicks me in the teeth.

God Save The Queen.
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Post by: Matti on 19 September 2019, 11:30:53
  • they're also digging really dip into the bottom pile regarding isekai now, adapting "I Said Make My Abilities Average" and "Ascendance of a Bookworm" (guess it's time for the girls to get their isekai turn on screen)...
There was a time when girls owned isekai genre with Wizard of Oz, Alice in Wonderland, Magic Knight Rayearth, and more. Then genre got popular (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ItsPopularNowItSucks) ::)


Went a bit old school tonight binge watching Dallos (4 ep OVA) and currently a few ep into Cosmo Warrior Zero. Anyone seen these?
I've seen CWZ.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 19 September 2019, 11:35:18
Well there's a better quality trailer here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRFVIQRv1gY

Also, I thought I was the only strange bird who was running a Mono Faction HMS Fleet (with the exception of the adorable Gato Swarm providing sub support). I wonder how long this will last before Chapter 13 kicks me in the teeth.

God Save The Queen.

Nope! I have every Royal Navy ship at at least Lvl 100 (save the latest, HMSs Black Prince & Formidable)  & the Fleet Faction upgrade at Rank 6!

Long Live the Queen, indeed!!
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Post by: kato on 19 September 2019, 14:35:59
I've seen CWZ.
Same.

--

Recently started watching Six Hearts Princess (not available in English).

Official Promotional Video from 2012 on youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K9Kcy0kndk)
English-language website for the anime from the production company (http://poncotan.jp/en/works-2)

The above PV is still from the early 3DCG concept phase. It was later revised to hand-drawn 2D. Actual broadcast started in 2016, and since then they are doing one to two episodes... per year. With at least one artbook published per episode as well. They did not finish the first episode in time for broadcast in 2016 - and Tokyo MX broadcast the "unfinished version" anyway to satisfy the hype, with the director formally apologizing and publishing a revised version with much extended scenes and a prologue a year later.

Director of the series is Takashi Murakami, a Japanese artist sometimes called Japan's Andy Warhol - and on Time's 2008 list of Top 100 influential artists and entertainers (article (http://content.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1733748_1733752_1735733,00.html)). He's a lot into anime visual theory and deriving art objects from anime culture.

Plotwise, someone on that video above commented "when Madoka Magika meets Precure". Yeah. Sorta like that. Except the prologue added - setting a backdrop early on for the story - is more Neon Genesis Evangelion meets Sakura Taisen. I think he actually went quite intentionally overboard with that as an apology to the viewers of the unfinished episode. Very 80s tropey throughout too, or at least i can spot those in there.
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Post by: Istal_Devalis on 19 September 2019, 15:21:09
While I favor the Eagles (Go my adorable little Fletcher swarm) I've went and made at least one fleet of each faction that I could (combining the two !French). Minus the Italians because I ran out of room. I suppose the Italians can help out the Chinese for the moment, I've been rotating their Main element.

Someday you'll get a refit, Fletcher-neesan. I have faith in you.
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Post by: MadCapellan on 19 September 2019, 15:46:58
Recently started watching Six Hearts Princess (not available in English).


......Actual broadcast started in 2016, and since then they are doing one to two episodes... per year.

Oh, wow, I thought that project was dead! I was pretty excited for it when it was announced. How far along is it now?
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Post by: kato on 19 September 2019, 15:51:24
Oh, wow, I thought that project was dead! I was pretty excited for it when it was announced. How far along is it now?
Episode 7 broadcasting this saturday in Japan.
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Post by: Wrangler on 19 September 2019, 15:52:39
With the fragmenting of the content providers making their own streaming services.
Do you guys think it will be harder to watch your desired anime?  Crunchyroll going have it harder now. 

Sort makes me think the golden age of streaming is ending.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 19 September 2019, 16:18:40
Japanese market for streaming services has been fragmented for years with over a dozen major providers - the west is just following.

That even includes streaming services aimed exclusively at the smartphone section - with exclusive, specifically produced content that you'll never see on other platforms by virtue of actually being produced for an entirely different screen format.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 19 September 2019, 17:29:23
With the fragmenting of the content providers making their own streaming services.
Do you guys think it will be harder to watch your desired anime?

Very much so.
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Post by: DarkSpade on 19 September 2019, 18:07:01
I don't stick with any one faction.  I'm too busy chasing down all the secretary ship quests.

I really wish they'd slow down on the events.  They're fun, but I can't even remember the last time I tried to play through the main story missions.
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Post by: Istal_Devalis on 20 September 2019, 11:43:39
I prefer the constant stream of events, honestly. My issue with most MMO/action RPG type games is I hit end game and grinding the exact same level constantly for incremental upgrades eventually just drives me off as I lose interest. The constant trickle of 'new' helps keep me invested.

I'm just glad my OCD tendencies arent triggered by skins. I'd be broke.
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Post by: Wrangler on 20 September 2019, 15:45:26
That even includes streaming services aimed exclusively at the smartphone section - with exclusive, specifically produced content that you'll never see on other platforms by virtue of actually being produced for an entirely different screen format.
Thus why anime struggling to survive i think, if providers trying do everything in their power, at risk losing touch with other platforms.  I think dumb, but it's way it is i guess.

I wondered why pirated anime is been a thing still, this sort fragmentation causes people to want to unite it. 
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 20 September 2019, 16:17:50
It's not that much of a fragmentation in Japan itself. I mean, just look at Biglobe. They're streaming 90% of the stuff that arrives in the West, and some on top of that (38 series this season).

There are a very limited number of anime-specific streaming services over there that people actually use. Heck, actually Bandai Channel is about the only notable one i can think of. Everything else with a sizable share in the Japanese market - Amazon Prime, Netflix, Hulu, Biglobe, Yahoo/Gyao - offer a whole lot more than just anime.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 21 September 2019, 16:08:19
Making my way slowly through the last couple eps of Kanata no Astra.

They actually manage to throw in a new scifi trope every 10 minutes from ep 6 onwards.

"The adults are lieing to us." Oh yes. Definitely oh yes.

P.S. I could have done without the "what happens if you switch off a wormhole while something's stuck through it" demonstration.
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Post by: Dies Irae on 22 September 2019, 08:19:01
Nope! I have every Royal Navy ship at at least Lvl 100 (save the latest, HMSs Black Prince & Formidable)  & the Fleet Faction upgrade at Rank 6!

Long Live the Queen, indeed!!

I envy you. Centaur is being elusive for me.

-----------------------------------------------

Back on topic, I'm definitely going to miss Symphogear when it ends.
Considering it's in it's 5th and final season, it's been a hell of a ride.

It's such a weird concept, an action show styled around kinetic magical girl brawls, yet somehow earnest and self-aware with itself while possessing a surprising amount of considered depth and consistency woven into its lore.

Symphogear has managed to be an incredibly stupid show, while being surprisingly smart. It's basically what Macross Delta was aspiring to be, without being hamstrung by such minor things like physics, common sense and realism (all the while side-winking at the audience with a knowing smile).
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: DarkSpade on 22 September 2019, 08:44:45
I thought Centaur was an event ship?

What service(if any) is going to be streaming Azur Lane and when?  What little I find on google is nothing but previews or info on the release in Japan.  That and twitch streams for the game.  People seriously watch other people play this?
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Post by: Dies Irae on 22 September 2019, 08:52:27
I thought Centaur was an event ship?
She's in the Special Ship build queue but I couldn't get her during her rate up period to my annoyance.


What service(if any) is going to be streaming Azur Lane and when? 
So far, nobody has announced they've picked up the rights to do an English sub/dub.
I have contingencies to watch it on Japanese broadcast if there's no Western release, but that's a worst case scenario.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 22 September 2019, 09:18:45
No streaming service announced for Japan either.

Tokyo MX, Sun TV, KBS Kyoto, BS11 and AT-X.
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Post by: Luciora on 22 September 2019, 10:44:10
Slighty off topic, but the Azur Lane PS4 game will be getting an English release in 2020.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 22 September 2019, 11:05:28
Cool
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 22 September 2019, 12:47:54
I envy you. Centaur is being elusive for me.

Yeah, gotta have that Tony Taka elf girl! Good luck pumping cubes into the aviation gacha!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Top Sergeant on 23 September 2019, 20:39:19
Just finished the series O Maidens in Your Savage Years! and it was really good. I enjoyed the humor, characters, story and animation.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 24 September 2019, 17:42:11
Just finished the series O Maidens in Your Savage Years! and it was really good. I enjoyed the humor, characters, story and animation.

Last episode got a little over the top, but overall the writing was solid & the characters were all very human & relatable. Mari Okada with another hit!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Tymers Realm on 25 September 2019, 14:14:17
Well it looks like Bandai/Namco, Youtube, and Gen Urobuchi are teaming up for a real-mecha type Anime called Obsolete (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-09-24/gen-urobuchi-writes-robotic-mecha-3d-cg-anime-obsolete/.151497).
The Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_ml8tjOeE4) looks interesting enough. From the Vid Description:
Quote
The year is 2014 and aliens have come to earth without warning to request for a “trade” - they offer conscious-control robots, “Exo-frames”, in return for limestone.
“Exo-frames” are cheaper than fighter jets, tanks, or guns, and anyone can easily ride them. They quickly spread and begin to change the world —.

This could be quite interesting. It's gonna be on Youtube in December.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Luciora on 25 September 2019, 14:39:03
Yeah, no way that's not going to come back and become a serious problem for the humans.

Well it looks like Bandai/Namco, Youtube, and Gen Urobuchi are teaming up for a real-mecha type Anime called Obsolete (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-09-24/gen-urobuchi-writes-robotic-mecha-3d-cg-anime-obsolete/.151497).
The Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_ml8tjOeE4) looks interesting enough. From the Vid Description:
This could be quite interesting. It's gonna be on Youtube in December.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 25 September 2019, 14:43:40
If it's an Urobuchi script, I'd fully expect the Exo-frames to switch allegience and autonomously sieze control of Earth as soon as they outnumber local conventional forces. Here's hoping he's clever enough to write beyond his reputation again like he did with Gargantia & the Verduous Planet....
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 26 September 2019, 09:52:31
Well it looks like Bandai/Namco, Youtube, and Gen Urobuchi are teaming up for a real-mecha type Anime called Obsolete (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-09-24/gen-urobuchi-writes-robotic-mecha-3d-cg-anime-obsolete/.151497).
The Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_ml8tjOeE4) looks interesting enough. From the Vid Description:
This could be quite interesting. It's gonna be on Youtube in December.
Heh, men riding on the back (without a cockpit) of mecha, holding and firing AK-47. Are those really something that couldn't be dealt by Humvee or technical with 20 mm autocannon loaded with AP rounds? Or M551 Sheridan with Shillelagh missile? (It's been discussed on another topic lately)

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Did I just kill a cat girl by accident?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 26 September 2019, 12:41:40
You just killed a whole litter.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Wrangler on 26 September 2019, 13:33:22
Heh, men riding on the back (without a cockpit) of mecha, holding and firing AK-47. Are those really something that couldn't be dealt by Humvee or technical with 20 mm autocannon loaded with AP rounds? Or M551 Sheridan with Shillelagh missile? (It's been discussed on another topic lately)

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Did I just kill a cat girl by accident?
Sounds like Zoids: Wild to me, minus the guns and bad hair.
(https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=61792.0;attach=54852)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Ruger on 26 September 2019, 13:45:12
50 pages again.

Wish I could find the Zoids Chaotic Century DVD’s I’m missing.

Ruger
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 26 September 2019, 13:50:25
There is new Zoids starting next week ya know. Zoids Wild Zero.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 26 September 2019, 14:00:27
The weapons appear scaled for the Exo-frame to use, not the rider, but it is hard to see how a bipedal motorcycle would revoluionize warfare. Rideback leaps to mind.

We're closing in on a new thread fast - any witty thread title ideas?
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 26 September 2019, 14:31:12
The weapons appear scaled for the Exo-frame to use, not the rider, but it is hard to see how a bipedal motorcycle would revoluionize warfare. Rideback leaps to mind.
I recall seeing something where armed motorcycles are depicted as way over-the-top killing machines. Bikermice from Mars (cartoon from 1990's) and Delta Force (American movie with Chuck Norris) comes to mind.

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We're closing in on a new thread fast - any witty thread title ideas?
Here's already one with only 1 page worth of comments (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=58102.0)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 26 September 2019, 15:05:47
The weapons appear scaled for the Exo-frame to use, not the rider, but it is hard to see how a bipedal motorcycle would revoluionize warfare. Rideback leaps to mind.

It's no less realistic than Heavy Object in that regard.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: kato on 26 September 2019, 15:28:34
I recall seeing something where armed motorcycles are depicted as way over-the-top killing machines. Bikermice from Mars (cartoon from 1990's) and Delta Force (American movie with Chuck Norris) comes to mind.
For something more anime-themed: Akira.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Maingunnery on 26 September 2019, 15:33:38
It's no less realistic than Heavy Object in that regard.
Heavy Object would require 'less realistic' materials/technologies, while rideback is just less realistic in a practical manner.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: Matti on 26 September 2019, 15:41:36
For something more anime-themed: Akira.
Oh yes, the flying bikes or whatever with 3-barrel guns. Though those don't look that op: defeated by a pistol (at least in manga)
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: DarkSpade on 26 September 2019, 17:34:11
Here's already one with only 1 page worth of comments (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=58102.0)

Two years old.  Here's a new one.
https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=67062.msg1550067#msg1550067
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MadCapellan on 26 September 2019, 18:47:54
It's no less realistic than Heavy Object in that regard.

Heavy Object is just Ogre/G.E.V. - The Anime, where they're of course piloted by moe girls. Laying aside a nuke-proof material, it's not that all far-fetched.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 26 September 2019, 19:25:23
From an actual warfare standpoint it's incredibly far-fetched.  Sinking your country's entire military budget into one astronomically expensive war machine is ridiculous.  All you need is for two enemies to decide to attack you at the same time from different directions and congratulations, you're now screwed.

And that's not counting just how screwed you are if your priceless, irreplaceable war machine suffers from a lucky hit that takes it out.
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: pheonixstorm on 26 September 2019, 19:32:19
Goodbye thread, we knew you well!
Title: Re: The Anime M@sterthread - Platinum is a Full Metal Panic Edition
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 26 September 2019, 20:06:54
Sinking your country's entire military budget into one astronomically expensive war machine is ridiculous.
It worked for G Gundam!

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/c6/49/e6/c649e6c65689618d6096d077e6ba61a2.jpg)

...never mind.

(and that's how we end a thread!)