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David Drake's passing
« on: 11 December 2023, 11:57:37 »
Passed on December 10th.

https://david-drake.com/

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Re: David Drake's passing
« Reply #1 on: 11 December 2023, 12:49:05 »
he wasn't my favorite writer but there were a number of books he wrote that I read.

sucks, that another of the writers passed

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Re: David Drake's passing
« Reply #2 on: 11 December 2023, 18:24:42 »
NOOO!!!  I was hoping for at least one more RCN book...

He even responded to me once through his website.  :cry:

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Re: David Drake's passing
« Reply #3 on: 11 December 2023, 19:18:20 »
Thank sucks.
RIP David
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Re: David Drake's passing
« Reply #4 on: 11 December 2023, 20:20:58 »
His Hammer's Slammers books weren't my cup of tea but The General Series with SM Sterling, those I've read a half dozen times at least. 

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Re: David Drake's passing
« Reply #5 on: 11 December 2023, 20:33:02 »
one of the class acts that nearly made the military Science Fiction subgenre respectable is gone.
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Re: David Drake's passing
« Reply #6 on: 11 December 2023, 20:34:17 »
Damn. Has anyone told F16?

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Re: David Drake's passing
« Reply #7 on: 11 December 2023, 20:38:28 »
He probably knows. 
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Re: David Drake's passing
« Reply #8 on: 11 December 2023, 21:53:13 »
Very likely indeed... I hope he's taking it well...

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Re: David Drake's passing
« Reply #9 on: 12 December 2023, 18:49:43 »
I'm surprised this thread hasn't seen more traffic... I really thought he captured a lot of 3025's vibe... :/

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Re: David Drake's passing
« Reply #10 on: 13 December 2023, 11:35:49 »
One of the greatest writers of all time.

Basically created modern military SF. And the Man's sheer RANGE, in writing extremely grounded stories based on his time in vietnam, to his Old Nathan fantasy work, his horror wiriting, his humour! Gods, the man's humour work!, more conventional SF and fantasy and everything in between, plus his work through his small press keeping the pulp alive. What a loss.

The man was an example to Veterans of dealing in a healthy way with your trauma and even turning it to make a profit in a way that reached so many others. His love of the classics, translating latin for *fun* for crying out loud, the man was a legend. His writing inspired me in so many ways and his Hammer's Slammers stories brought me into literary adulthood; they really bring home how tame and sedate most supposedly adult and gritty military SF is in contrast.

As a former interrogator with the 11th ACR in Vietnam, Drake brought a weight and gravitas to his writing that few even approach.

He had this *tic* in his writing, where his characters say "I don't guess" instead of "I don't know". It used to annoy me, but I figured it was a product of where he grew up and how he learned to speak and think and it's grown on me over the years.

One of my favourite BT what-ifs is what if David Drake had written some of the novels in the BTU? Oh, what depth and grounding he could have brought to the canon of fiction here.

But what I'll be forever grateful to David Drake for is that his writing helped me personally get over my own childish distaste for homosexuals through the way he wrote such characters in his various works. To that point, I only saw gay men portrayed as shallow purse-puppies, devoid of any character flaws. They were grating, but also boring. As an autistic person, this new-fangled idea of "Gay-coding" went totally over my head, i'd never have got it. But Drake showed me gay characters with a depth of character I'd never seen before. Real people who could have flaws and even be legitimately feared for the prowess of their character, rather than silly caricatures or untrustworthy fops.

And now I'll never again have the pleasure of another Drake story. This touches me in a way that the deaths of famous people rarely do. One of my greatest joys in plumbing used book stores was to find an anthology with a previously unknown Drake story in it. Those experiences must be all but gone for me now and there will be no more new ones.

Sad, so sad.

I hope only that the man can finally rest and find relief from the last of his demons.
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Re: David Drake's passing
« Reply #11 on: 13 December 2023, 17:41:04 »
NNNOOO!


Darn, darn, darn.  I used to haunt the Baen books website waiting for book previews and chapters, then the local bookstore during the release month for my prizes.  His books were treasured,  and are still on my shelves where many of his fellow authors had to go to give space for other authors.

I think it's the Roman legionnaires as slaves fighting for trade deals that's my favorite story.  I shall reread with pop and chips as I did as a teenager in his honor.

Rest in peace, and thanks for everything.
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Re: David Drake's passing
« Reply #12 on: 13 December 2023, 21:16:12 »
Glad to see more responses here!  Still hoping F16 will weigh in...

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Re: David Drake's passing
« Reply #13 on: 13 December 2023, 22:09:20 »
whelp.. Fecal Matter. :(

First we lost Eric Flint,  now David Drake.
These legendary authors who created the heros of my youth ... gone.
... and so many more of those Baby Boomer legends are getting to that age.  :(

another Legend has joined the crew of the TANSTAAFL.

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Re: David Drake's passing
« Reply #14 on: 17 December 2023, 08:38:33 »
Heavy hit.  What loss
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Re: David Drake's passing
« Reply #15 on: 19 February 2024, 21:50:42 »
I absolutely loved his writing, particularly his RCN series.

For me he is up there high in the ratings of science fiction authors like Piper, Heinlein and Pournelle.
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Re: David Drake's passing
« Reply #16 on: 22 February 2024, 23:17:54 »
One funny thing is that he did write one book for Steve Jackson games in the 90s. It was for their cars wars game of all things. It did not quite get the rules right, but the action of the setting was very cool for a read.

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Re: David Drake's passing
« Reply #17 on: 22 February 2024, 23:37:24 »
One funny thing is that he did write one book for Steve Jackson games in the 90s. It was for their cars wars game of all things. It did not quite get the rules right, but the action of the setting was very cool for a read.
palladium books i think?
shame what happened to publisher they had some fun rpg books
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Re: David Drake's passing
« Reply #18 on: 27 February 2024, 23:30:59 »
whelp.. Fecal Matter. :(

First we lost Eric Flint,  now David Drake.
These legendary authors who created the heros of my youth ... gone.
... and so many more of those Baby Boomer legends are getting to that age.  :(

another Legend has joined the crew of the TANSTAAFL.

!BLACKHORSE!

I tried to look that reference up, but all I found the RA Heinlein story, "The moon is a harsh mistress", which references the idea of TANSTAAFL, but not a ship that I could tell?

Given, I just used google.
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Re: David Drake's passing
« Reply #19 on: 28 February 2024, 20:35:34 »
the TANSTAAFL is a legendary ship crewed by the greatest sci-fi/fantasy writers and captained by Heinlein himself.
its basically "the rainbow bridge" trope of Hall of Fame authors.
I've only read of it once in an Anthology dedication to past writers and once heard it discussed during a panel at a Convention.

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« Reply #20 on: 28 February 2024, 21:07:41 »
the TANSTAAFL is a legendary ship crewed by the greatest sci-fi/fantasy writers and captained by Heinlein himself.
its basically "the rainbow bridge" trope of Hall of Fame authors.
I've only read of it once in an Anthology dedication to past writers and once heard it discussed during a panel at a Convention.

I suspected as much!

Wow! That is really cool! Do you remember the anthology? I may have it.
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And took their wages, and are dead.             And saved the sum of things for pay.
     
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Re: David Drake's passing
« Reply #21 on: 29 February 2024, 22:03:51 »
aaaah... I can't recall.  sorry.
Hardback.  Years Best Science Fiction? ...2003 or 2006?
But I read ALOT of sci-fi and anthologies are a favorite.
Last I recall seeing mention was when Jim Baen passed away.
... as an editor and publisher, the Captain and crew were going to have Baen scrubbing the head...

sorry.  I'm a lousy source.  I blame cheap mad cow burgers from the 80s.

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« Reply #22 on: 01 March 2024, 10:50:23 »
aaaah... I can't recall.  sorry.
Hardback.  Years Best Science Fiction? ...2003 or 2006?
But I read ALOT of sci-fi and anthologies are a favorite.
Last I recall seeing mention was when Jim Baen passed away.
... as an editor and publisher, the Captain and crew were going to have Baen scrubbing the head...

sorry.  I'm a lousy source.  I blame cheap mad cow burgers from the 80s.

It's okay!

And a fine and noble tribute to both men. Drake and Jim Baen were great friends and Drake's own commentaries on Jim's passing were very touching. I learned a lot about human interaction from his writings.
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Re: David Drake's passing
« Reply #23 on: 03 March 2024, 13:59:18 »
RIP. He was an influence in my writing. His battle sequences were top notch.

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Re: David Drake's passing
« Reply #24 on: 06 March 2024, 22:34:54 »
This interview he did with BlackFive (there's a reference that brings me back...) is great.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLn15W9GmQCEMQ_TMfTu20YKXImsyWLXAA
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These, in the day when heaven was falling,      Their shoulders held the sky suspended;
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Followed their mercenary calling,               What God abandoned, these defended,
And took their wages, and are dead.             And saved the sum of things for pay.
     
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Re: David Drake's passing
« Reply #25 on: 11 March 2024, 22:26:13 »
RIP. He was an influence in my writing. His battle sequences were top notch.

I very much concur on the battle sequences.
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Re: David Drake's passing
« Reply #26 on: 17 March 2024, 13:02:51 »
One funny thing is that he did write one book for Steve Jackson games in the 90s. It was for their cars wars game of all things. It did not quite get the rules right, but the action of the setting was very cool for a read.
Looking at my car wars stuff, what book was that?
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