Author Topic: The Free Worlds League: Winning with what we've got! (Read 162548 times)

Sartris · « **Reply #1200 on:** 01 June 2018, 11:12:17 »

Quote from: Minemech on 01 June 2018, 08:56:09

Remember that the Regulans themselves may have wanted to return to the League more than the Cameron-Jones family. The Regulans had a special place as a founding memberstate of the League, their absence was felt by both.

my impression of regulus vs andurien has always been member of the system unhappy with their place in the system vs wants out of the system

Arkansas Warrior · « **Reply #1201 on:** 01 June 2018, 11:25:22 »

Quote from: Colt Ward on 01 June 2018, 09:36:08

Second, its a Cappie design . . . and they already have the Tsi T'sang (or however spelled) which I think is the premier melee mech- I mean I like the NDA-2KO but I acknowledge the Capellan design is superior. So . . . new melee mech which is not a clone of the TT- that sets up one variant and one flavor of what it will NOT be like.

I'd take a Neanderthal over either.

JadeHellbringer · « **Reply #1202 on:** 01 June 2018, 12:06:51 »

Quote from: Arkansas Warrior on 01 June 2018, 11:25:22

I'd take a Neanderthal over either.

Any time the original sculpt of your Mech features it using a Battlemaster's arm as a club, you can pretty well guarantee that you're dealing with something wicked and unpleasant. That's one scary little monster.

Colt Ward · « **Reply #1203 on:** 01 June 2018, 12:12:07 »

The Neanderthal is in the same grouping IMO as the Berserker, Mortis and No-Daichi- the weights, speed & not having JJ. Not having thought about the Neanderthal in comparison, I agree it is a more impressive machine b/c of the TSM making that hatchet more painful than the Mortis hatchet. However TSM is great in anticipation . . . until you miss with that hatchet, and the Mortis is more likely to hit b/c of that AES. The TSM on the Neanderthal would also be harder to activate or control than the TT, simply b/c the TT has a plethora of weapons to use for the degrees of adjustment . . . and if you really threw its heat out of whack, it can jump away to recover its poise.

I am not in a position to compare the Mortis vs Neanderthal armor/criticals so I will leave that aside.

But I will concede, once the NeoFWL re-integrates the Regulans- why import any more Mortis?

Scotty · « **Reply #1204 on:** 01 June 2018, 19:36:21 »

The Neanderthal's armor is... substantial, at 13 tons of Ferro-Fibrous.

It also comes with paired Headcappers when you're not using TSM, and when you finally manage to end up at perfect range and kick on the TSM, you've still got a pair of headcappers and you also have a trio of LB-15X (OS) strapped to the chest.

Also worth mentioning that PSRs are done by phase, and the Neanderthal is entirely capable of knocking something down in the shooting phase to make it an even easier target. Or knocking down multiple things in a turn.

Dies Irae · « **Reply #1205 on:** 01 June 2018, 19:36:37 »

Quote from: Sartris on 01 June 2018, 11:12:17

my impression of regulus vs andurien has always been member of the system unhappy with their place in the system vs wants out of the system

Mostly as a result of Thomas, I feel. Regulus has always been the loyal opposition with regards to the League. The always angry, slightly ranty guy who wants to make things BETTER and tries to make constructive steps but struggles with the definition of 'Better' and felt betrayed when Thomas basically told them to shut up.

Andurien has always been the wild-card who wanted out of superpower politics. More surprised than not that they're in bed with House Liao, but eh.

Quote from: Colt Ward on 01 June 2018, 12:12:07

But I will concede, once the NeoFWL re-integrates the Regulans- why import any more Mortis?

I think it's built locally for the Duchy of Oriente actually. Plant is on Emris IV.

It's not a terrible design and it has mad style going for it. I just wish it was... better... than a playground bully.

Tai Dai Cultist · « **Reply #1206 on:** 01 June 2018, 20:36:25 »

Quote from: Scotty on 01 June 2018, 19:36:21

Also worth mentioning that PSRs are done by phase, and the Neanderthal is entirely capable of knocking something down in the shooting phase to make it an even easier target. Or knocking down multiple things in a turn.

I declare shenanigans on the Neaderthal.

Kidd · « **Reply #1207 on:** 01 June 2018, 22:18:23 »

Quote from: Scotty on 01 June 2018, 19:36:21

paired Headcappers

Capacitored PPCs are really only "every other turn" headcappers tho. So you get only really one massive heat + damage boost in round 1, with pretty regular damage after that.

I dunno, I'm still not that convinced by capacitors.

truetanker · « **Reply #1208 on:** 02 June 2018, 13:35:30 »

Alternate Headcappers... turn 1 left, turn 2 right, turn three repeat...

And close every turn, let the M-Pods do their thing!

TT

Kidd · « **Reply #1209 on:** 03 June 2018, 23:41:20 »

Yeah, an 80-ton Mech consistently delivering less than a PSR worth of damage is... suboptimal. You get more raw damage just firing off the Snubs as-is in fact.

Weirdo · « **Reply #1210 on:** 04 June 2018, 09:02:24 »

As with many other things in the FWLM arsenal, capacitors just mean you have to plan ahead. So fire normally, and keep an eye out for opportunities. When you think one is coming, charge things up and let rip.

Kit deSummersville · « **Reply #1211 on:** 04 June 2018, 09:43:29 »

Or when there's a lull, charge one/both up.

Weirdo · « **Reply #1212 on:** 11 June 2018, 10:10:01 »

Anybody taken a Jenner IIC 3 for a spin? I stumbled across it recently, and it looks like it could be pretty useful. It's primarily a Nova Cat mech, so we can probably get a few through the Protectorate. At first glance, it looks like it would be used exactly like a Spider, only giving up the ability to punch after firing in exchange for a NARC(which we've been bemoaning the lack of fast platforms with this) and an antipersonnel capability that verges on the atrocilicious.

JadeHellbringer · « **Reply #1213 on:** 11 June 2018, 10:52:49 »

Quote from: Weirdo on 11 June 2018, 10:10:01

Anybody taken a Jenner IIC 3 for a spin? I stumbled across it recently, and it looks like it could be pretty useful. It's primarily a Nova Cat mech, so we can probably get a few through the Protectorate. At first glance, it looks like it would be used exactly like a Spider, only giving up the ability to punch after firing in exchange for a NARC(which we've been bemoaning the lack of fast platforms with this) and an antipersonnel capability that verges on the atrocilicious.

Can't say I have. But yeah, there's some intriguing ideas there. I'd kind of like to see two of the SPLs popped off for ER mediums so it has a little more ranged capability, but the ability to land in the midst of an infantry formation and just end them is appealing (with a high move mod to boot, avoiding their return fire). Narc is a pretty useless idea for a Clan Mech, but if it's teamed up with a FWL force it becom-

...you know what, even as I type that, can I lose THREE SPLs to gain two ER mediums and TAG? Or lose the Narc to gain TAG and an AMS?

Weirdo · « **Reply #1214 on:** 11 June 2018, 11:03:31 »

I rather like the SPL armament. It's certainly got the speed to bring them to bear, wether it be against infantry, fast tanks, or even mechs in dire need of a weapons-grade colonoscopy.

Also, it means this thing is cheap. Like check-under-the-hood-because-the-salesman-might-have-left-out-the-engine cheap. Not often you can say that about Clan tech.

Sartris · « **Reply #1215 on:** 11 June 2018, 11:48:12 »

Good infantry hunter that has the speed to use both the narc and the spls. I like my odds fighting a lot of other DA lights

Colt Ward · « **Reply #1216 on:** 11 June 2018, 13:24:24 »

While I prefer the Jenner IIC 2 . . . the 3 definitely works better with FWL LRM emphasis.

Weirdo · « **Reply #1217 on:** 11 June 2018, 14:09:07 »

Oh, the 2 looks like enormous fun to play, especially in a smaller game or a duel, but done on a decent-sized map. That kind of ammo-independent range, plus the speedand jump, and smoke LRMs to make things even worse...delicious.

Unfortunately, TANSTAAFL rears its ugly head, there definitely ain't no such thing as a free laser when talking Clantech, and the 3 is almost literally half as expensive as the 2.

Colt Ward · « **Reply #1218 on:** 11 June 2018, 14:50:07 »

Yeah, I think the BV is the same as some of the standard 4/6 IS heavies lol.

Legendkiller30 · « **Reply #1219 on:** 20 June 2018, 09:50:12 »

I'm building a Free Worlds Guard unit and wanted to run it by you guys. Comments and suggestions welcomed!

Battlemaster 1Gb
Perseus D
Grand titan 11M
Juliano 5A

Anzu G60
Anzu J70
Tempest 3M2
Hercules 9003

Wolverine 9M
Shadowhawk 7M
Cronus 5M
Havoc P6

Falcon hawk 9K
Hammer 3C
Gambit 1G
Locust 5M

Colt Ward · « **Reply #1220 on:** 20 June 2018, 10:07:51 »

Your 4th lance is a bit split on speed? 5/8, 5/8, 7/11, 13/20 Bit hard on the faster ones that need speed to live- also might think of the -1L Gambit for fast TAG.

Getting the Anzu? FYI its supposed to come with parts to make both versions IIRC.

You might want to look at what Omnis the League gets to try to bundle 4 in a lance so you can mount some BA to keep up with your mechs- so besides things like the Sunder, Avatar, Blackjack, Firestarter and Men Shen salvage/purchase keep in mind you can have some Clan equipment in the 3130s or later.

Unless these are minis you are locked in, IMO you might throw out the Falcon Hawk & Hammer while moving the Cronus and Havoc into that 4th Lance. A good Omni lance for you might be that Perseus, Vulture Mk IV, Sunder and Blackjack which allows you to carry along some the the neo-League's good BA.

Colt Ward · « **Reply #1221 on:** 20 June 2018, 10:08:15 »

Anzu is out! Anyone built & painted one yet??

Legendkiller30 · « **Reply #1222 on:** 20 June 2018, 10:43:08 »

All the mechs I post I have. How about this?

Perseus D
Perseus D
Blackhawk Ku-O
Avatar J

Anzu G60
Anzu J70
Tempest 3M2
Hercules 9003

Wolverine 9M
Shadowhawk 7M
Cronus 5M
Griffin 5M

Wraith TR2
Gambit 1G
Havoc P6
Koshi Prime

Reldn · « **Reply #1223 on:** 20 June 2018, 21:24:48 »

Quote from: Colt Ward on 20 June 2018, 10:08:15

Anzu is out! Anyone built & painted one yet??

Purchased two of them! Got one built so far, but, nothing painted(surprise surprise xp). Still determining what unit I'm going for at the moment...Heavily leaning towards either the 2nd or 6th Oriente Hussars at the moment.

Crimson Dynamo · « **Reply #1224 on:** 20 June 2018, 21:37:27 »

One thing I noticed today in the RATs of FM3145 is how prevalent Lyran equipment appears in the Regulan sub-faction tables. Sneaky Steiners selling their stuff to the chronic agitators in Marik space... Does give RSMC units an interesting look in the field though, I'd bet.

Arkansas Warrior · « **Reply #1225 on:** 20 June 2018, 21:46:51 »

The trade apparently goes both ways, with the Lyrans fielding Neanderthals and Picaroons according to TRO 3145. (Maybe others too, I thought I remembered the Neanderthal having a Lyran notable pilot, and in going to look it up, I ran across a Hauptmann in the Picaroon notable pilots as well)

Colt Ward · « **Reply #1226 on:** 20 June 2018, 23:19:53 »

The infamous General Bernard whatsit that Vedet threw under the bus on Tamar IIRC. He left to become a merc and landed on the Aerospace producing world near the Rim state that had Chowlea in her grandfather's Thanatos (which also raises the question, what became of the Mongoose?).

Decoy · « **Reply #1227 on:** 22 June 2018, 02:40:47 »

The Mongoose II? Apparently key components of Stealth Lances in Mercenary units by the RAT

Nav_Alpha · « **Reply #1228 on:** 22 June 2018, 04:31:16 »

Quote from: Colt Ward on 20 June 2018, 23:19:53

The infamous General Bernard whatsit that Vedet threw under the bus on Tamar IIRC. He left to become a merc and landed on the Aerospace producing world near the Rim state that had Chowlea in her grandfather's Thanatos (which also raises the question, what became of the Mongoose?).

You got to figure it was destroyed in the Jihad?

Colt Ward · « **Reply #1229 on:** 27 June 2018, 14:30:13 »

While in League colors I tend to represent the 4th Regulan Hussars . . . I got my Anzu mini in . . . and we are having a laid back 5k game (FFA, teams, who knows until we get there). But beside the Anzu J70, I am thinking of breaking out my Juliano (too bad no cERLL sheet yet) since it has not been on the table and I am like the mini . . . so to round it out I am thinking of taking a Fenrir (ERML) for funsies.