Author Topic: The Free Worlds League: Winning with what we've got! (Read 162746 times)

JadeHellbringer · « **Reply #1140 on:** 18 May 2018, 08:03:09 »

Quote from: Weirdo on 17 May 2018, 16:37:31

There's a story there...

EDIT: That just seems like...bad juju.

My reasoning is that in their original form, the two could be called a sort of monitor- they combined a small number of heavy weapons with extremely shallow draft, to be able to operate in the kind of shallow waters that a monitor of the American Civil War era would have found familiar. They were rated officially as 'large light cruisers' to get around funding language (the same kind of issue that prompted the Invincible-class ships in the 1970s to be rated 'through-deck cruisers' rather than aircraft carriers), or light battlecruisers, but 'monitor' isn't the worst description of them.

Side note, their half-sister Furious ended up becoming a carrier before completion... and became the name of a monitor I used in a Battletech game a few years ago, modded with the standard turret replaced with a dual-Arrow IV mount and AMS systems replacing the SRMs. So your pair would then become half-sisters to my Furious, which is symmetry. ^-^

Weirdo · « **Reply #1141 on:** 18 May 2018, 08:20:28 »

That makes sense. And to be honest, my tactical skills means they'll likely face similar fates as their namesakes...repeatedly.

Quote from: Moonsword on 18 May 2018, 07:02:09

What's wrong with the Curious, Spurious, and Outrageous?

Those might work for the three Silverfins of the second lance(flotilla?), leaving me with just the lone Silverfin of first lance. Maybe something that fits thematically with the Queen Callipygous...

Moonsword · « **Reply #1142 on:** 18 May 2018, 09:19:11 »

Those were derisive names for the same ships you and Hellbie were discussing.

Weirdo · « **Reply #1143 on:** 18 May 2018, 09:35:16 »

Well, pbhbhbt.

I'll still keep them as placeholders for the time being.

On a different note, what sword-wielding mechs do we have access to? I know of that one Firestarter config and the newer Grand Titan, but was wondering about any others. I'm not a particular fan of melee weapons but I don't dislike them on principle either, and there's something to be said for something that could be very useful against fast movers that you've beaten in initiative.

Sartris · « **Reply #1144 on:** 18 May 2018, 09:47:20 »

it's a very long list

Chimera 2K

Update: the member states have access to the Grand Titan T-IT-N13M

Kidd · « **Reply #1145 on:** 18 May 2018, 09:59:15 »

Grand Titan 13NM... beautiful

in before, "one shall stand, one shall fall"

JadeHellbringer · « **Reply #1146 on:** 18 May 2018, 10:07:05 »

"Experiments in Battlemech field surgery were often considered 'inaccurate'..."

Colt Ward · « **Reply #1147 on:** 18 May 2018, 10:11:20 »

The semi-truck should have a shield!

The pic makes it seem the two League mechs are practicing the FWL's favorite sport.

Weirdo · « **Reply #1148 on:** 18 May 2018, 10:16:17 »

*takes a close look at the Chimera-2K*

Jesus Bending Rodriguez!

It's like Tinkerbell all grown up, fed on a steady diet of Twisted Sister and hate! :o

JadeHellbringer · « **Reply #1149 on:** 18 May 2018, 10:34:59 »

Quote from: Colt Ward on 18 May 2018, 10:11:20

The semi-truck should have a shield!

The pic makes it seem the two League mechs are practicing the FWL's favorite sport.

Beating the everlasting shit out of your countrymen IS the League's favorite sport. ;D

Kidd · « **Reply #1150 on:** 18 May 2018, 10:38:22 »

Quote from: JadeHellbringer on 18 May 2018, 10:34:59

Beating the everlasting shit out of your countrymen IS the League's favorite sport. ;D

hey, you guys said it, not me :-X

if you look closely though that's probably some Free Worlds Legionnaire ~~gently correcting a wayward brother~~ ridding the League of Toaster scum...

Arkansas Warrior · « **Reply #1151 on:** 18 May 2018, 10:38:57 »

There might be some salvaged Gurkhas laying around here and there.

worktroll · « **Reply #1152 on:** 18 May 2018, 13:20:25 »

Quote from: Kidd on 18 May 2018, 10:38:22

hey, you guys said it, not me :-X

if you look closely though that's probably some Free Worlds Legionnaire ~~gently correcting a wayward brother~~ ridding the League of Toaster scum...

It's actually a merc major. Admittedly, they were under contract to Kristin Marik at the time ... and now that I think of it, a definite League connection. Yes, there's a story there ;)

Getz · « **Reply #1153 on:** 18 May 2018, 17:13:09 »

I'm looking for some advice.

It's 3067 and I have a bunch of Achileus and Longinus Battle armour to take on the school run about but no omnimechs to hang them off. What would be the most appropriately League flavoured transport vees to bus them about in?

Sartris · « **Reply #1154 on:** 18 May 2018, 17:45:20 »

we didn't ever really get in on the whole omni fad so options are a bit limited

the owens is always an option if you need speed. the perseus is the only homegrown FWL omni at your disposal at this point

http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Filter?Name=&HasBV=false&MinTons=&MaxTons=&MinBV=&MaxBV=&MinIntro=0&MaxIntro=3067&MinCost=&MaxCost=&HasRole=&HasBFAbility=omni&MinPV=&MaxPV=&Role=None+Selected&Technologies=1&BookAuto=&FactionAuto=&Factions=30&Factions=55

Dies Irae · « **Reply #1155 on:** 18 May 2018, 18:35:56 »

Quote from: JadeHellbringer on 18 May 2018, 10:07:05

"Experiments in Battlemech field surgery were often considered 'inaccurate'..."

"Death of the patient was nominally considered a success, however."

Quote from: Getz on 18 May 2018, 17:13:09

I'm looking for some advice.

It's 3067 and I have a bunch of Achileus and Longinus Battle armour to take on the school run about but no omnimechs to hang them off. What would be the most appropriately League flavoured transport vees to bus them about in?

We generally have a shortage of specialist League transports even capable of holding a 4 man squad, so you'll probably look into the general Inner Sphere list for the common-as-dirt stuff that everyone has lying around.

This means Heavy APCs of all stripes, Prowlers and Maxims. Chopper wise, Karnovs look to be your best bet.

Arkansas Warrior · « **Reply #1156 on:** 18 May 2018, 18:52:27 »

Quote from: Getz on 18 May 2018, 17:13:09

I'm looking for some advice.

It's 3067 and I have a bunch of Achileus and Longinus Battle armour to take on the school run about but no omnimechs to hang them off. What would be the most appropriately League flavoured transport vees to bus them about in?

The Maxim (I) is on The IS General list. That may not be League-flavored enough for you, but with 12 tons of transport capacity it’s probably the best option.

Colt Ward · « **Reply #1157 on:** 18 May 2018, 19:03:12 »

I am offended you have ask, the Main Gauche IFV is the only option.

Dies Irae · « **Reply #1158 on:** 18 May 2018, 19:05:55 »

Quote from: Colt Ward on 18 May 2018, 19:03:12

I am offended you have ask, the Main Gauche IFV is the only option.

Not in 67, it isn't. Production date is 3081.

truetanker · « **Reply #1159 on:** 18 May 2018, 19:54:44 »

Technically, you could use Clan Cargo Saladin, since in 3050 they used captured ones as ferries.

Why not a House unit after the AC gets a crit?

TT

Weirdo · « **Reply #1160 on:** 18 May 2018, 22:17:00 »

Isn't there an unarmed Pegasus with a fair amount of cargo space?

Sartris · « **Reply #1161 on:** 18 May 2018, 22:24:15 »

http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/2462/pegasus-scout-hover-tank-unarmed

Why yes there is

Weirdo · « **Reply #1162 on:** 18 May 2018, 22:28:45 »

Twelve tons of hauling, yeek. You can carry a full FWL platoon plus sandwiches for less than a pair of classic Wasps.

Dies Irae · « **Reply #1163 on:** 18 May 2018, 22:46:05 »

Quote from: Weirdo on 18 May 2018, 22:28:45

Twelve tons of hauling, yeek. You can carry a full FWL platoon plus sandwiches for less than a pair of classic Wasps.

I recommend leaving out the sandwiches unless you want a fight to break out over the filling.

That said, wasn't the unarmed Peggy a unique variant by a crazy driver who believed carrying no guns would make people attack him less? (Which in turn made things like Ferrets brave enough to buzz him?)

Sartris · « **Reply #1164 on:** 18 May 2018, 23:20:16 »

Edit: Wrong thread

Kidd · « **Reply #1165 on:** 19 May 2018, 02:20:40 »

Quote from: Dies Irae on 18 May 2018, 22:46:05

I recommend leaving out the sandwiches unless you want a fight to break out over the filling.

Look, at 12 tons it can carry a couple squads of troopers, sandwiches with fillings of all kinds, crumpets, scones, cakes, tea, coffee, a decent china service and the kitchen sink for washing up... such a configuration is known to Davions as the 'Field Kitchen, Tea Party" variant and to Lyrans as the "Mobile HQ"....

Weirdo · « **Reply #1166 on:** 19 May 2018, 07:40:24 »

Oriente suits swarm mechs with their pinkies out. O:-)

Dies Irae · « **Reply #1167 on:** 19 May 2018, 09:25:19 »

Quote from: Weirdo on 19 May 2018, 07:40:24

Oriente suits swarm mechs with their pinkies out. O:-)

Wouldn't want to look uncultured when you pull the Lyran out of his cockpit and shoot him would you?

Colt Ward · « **Reply #1168 on:** 19 May 2018, 10:26:24 »

While the League in general had a truce in '45 we do not if it was holding in '50 but even with it both sides overlooked the Crusader Wolves engaging in Trials with the Clan Protectorate. The truce with the League was in effect IMO b/c Jessica was afraid of the Wolves might landing on her in the early 40s. With Regulus out of the picture and no longer able to stab her in the back . . . and the bulk of the Wolf touman elsewhere, it would be surprising if they did not get adventurous. Plus we know that Jessica is no longer the ruler, so whoever it is might have different opinions . . .

The only other avenue for the neoFWL is nibble at the periphery of the Lyrans or focus on Andurien . . . which means facing the CapCon & MoC. Which would be more important- returning Andurien to the League or the captured MSC worlds?

Minemech · « **Reply #1169 on:** 19 May 2018, 14:46:04 »

Unfortunately the Duchy of Andurien is critical to League military production. It was truly bizarre that a world willingly defected to the Capellan Confederation, nonetheless the Duchy accepted the marriage offer.

With Regulus back, the League has a stronger claim to legitimacy as it has the successors to the founding states. I suspect that protectorate units were kept in place so that they could perform trials of possession without violating agreements. There is much to be done, but the new League borders are defensible with Regulus back. Perhaps the Marians need some taming first.