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TigerShark

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Replacing my BV modifier table
« on: 06 December 2019, 23:17:14 »
Since the new BV modifier table went to (basically) the same one that was included as my custom table, I'd like to replace it whenever the devs have time. This would just change it to the (canon) BV1 table.

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Re: Replacing my BV modifier table
« Reply #1 on: 07 December 2019, 23:46:36 »
Now the TPTB just needs to use geometric mean for the BV calc and hot 'mechs can then be better represented BV-wise  :D
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Re: Replacing my BV modifier table
« Reply #2 on: 08 December 2019, 00:42:05 »
Now the TPTB just needs to use geometric mean for the BV calc and hot 'mechs can then be better represented BV-wise  :D
Honestly, there's a very easy way to do that. Not to discount what you did (it's still a great mod).: Reduce the flat 6 added to the base heat dispersal during the heat calculations to a 2 (accounting for running/walking only) and reduce the first weapon to cross this threshold by 50% (not just the next weapon after it). Any unit that goes over +0 while firing its primary weapons and running will have all the secondary weapons discounted.

I'll put three 'Mechs here as examples; three heat hogs, one with bracket firing, and one heat-neutral for comparison: PXH-1, CTS-6X, AWS-8Q, THG-11E

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PXH-1 (6 + 10 SHS): 1,041
PXH-1 (2 + 10 SHS): 997 (-4.2%)

CTS-6X (6 + 14 SHS): 1,424
CTS-6X (2 + 14 SHS): 1,326 (-6.9%)

WHM-6R (6 + 18 SHS): 1,299
WHM-6R (2 + 18 SHS): 1,201 (-7.5%)

AWS-8Q (6 + 28 SHS): 1,605
AWS-8Q (2 + 28 SHS): 1,517 (-5.4%)

THG-11E (6 + 18 DHS): 1,640
THG-11E (2 + 18 DHS): 1,640 (+/- 0%)

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Combat:
4 x THG-11E with 4/5 pilots (canon): 6,560

vs.

5 x WHM-6R with 4/5 pilots (canon): 6,495
- or -
2 x WHM-6R with 3/5 pilots (proposed): 2,882
3 x WHM-6R with 4/5 pilots (proposed): 3,603
Total: 6,485
« Last Edit: 08 December 2019, 01:49:08 by TigerShark »
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Re: Replacing my BV modifier table
« Reply #3 on: 08 December 2019, 01:21:50 »
I challenge people to try this and see what makes for a more "even" contest.
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Re: Replacing my BV modifier table
« Reply #4 on: 08 December 2019, 09:11:23 »
I think I got my optional BV rules confused.  It's been so long ago!

Without looking at any BV calcs, the geometric mean modification helps units with a low defensive BV, such as those that are lightly armored.

I think what you suggested is already an option in Megamek, though I can't remember what discount I used.  Both options were inspired by your BV analysis :)
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