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Title: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Darrian Wolffe on 25 January 2011, 20:05:15
In the interests of getting awesome pics going again, I've got a BD Marauder for the 1st Canopian Cuirassiers that I did for a LotB painting contest a while back that my local group told me I never posted up here.  So, I'll rectify the mistake and break in the board at the same time!

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n294/wolffe42/Display%20Minis/MarauderEntry2DW.jpg)
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: BeeRockxs on 25 January 2011, 20:21:30
That's a very nice Marauder you got there.
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Wombat on 25 January 2011, 20:24:34
I like the scheme, but perhaps a little good blash wash would punch it up a bit? Just a thought...
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: iamfanboy on 25 January 2011, 20:25:52
I can't quite put my finger on why, but even though the yellows are impressive (a hard color to paint I know, after 40-odd commissioned Imperial Fists), somehow, I find the infantrymen more impressive.

Maybe because I just painted up like 7 bases of them with 7 infantrymen apiece so I know quite well how hard it is getting even THAT much detail on those buggers.
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Wolf Reaper on 25 January 2011, 20:27:52
I like it Darrian.

How did you do the laser crystal bulbs on the arms?
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Darrian Wolffe on 25 January 2011, 20:37:16
I like it Darrian.

How did you do the laser crystal bulbs on the arms?

Craft beads. 

I kicked around for a while trying to figure out a way to do good jeweling that didn't look like jeweling.  I was rooting through my wife's craft supplies when I noticed these and jammed 'em into the weapon ports to see what they looked like.  And Lo!  They didn't suck!  :D


I like the scheme, but perhaps a little good blash wash would punch it up a bit? Just a thought...

Amusingly, I did a black wash the first time I did yellow (a commission for Imperial Fist Space Marines).  It turned out awful.  Evidently, you want to shade yellow with brown not black.  What looks weird about this MAD is that it's the old Battledroid version - there's not a lot of panel lines to break up the yellow, and so it kind of glares at the eyes.  It' a mostly-unavoidable side effect of the scuplt and color scheme, I think.  Somebody who actually knows color theory could probably tell you better than it.
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Psyckosama on 25 January 2011, 20:38:40
I like it Darrian.

How did you do the laser crystal bulbs on the arms?

Transparent red plastic beads.
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: skumm on 25 January 2011, 20:40:41
I have 6 of these. Something isnt quite right about it.....

got it. top gun... Thats not original to the BD. The original is reallllllly thin with a sight piece on the end.... Like this:

(http://www.skumm.ca/pics/battledroids/1stFWGuards_Marauder1.jpg)

was the gun a replacement? Ir was the tip of the gun broken off? It looks original except for the very thin part at the end... I have both oval and hex bases here and all the guns look like the one in my pic above.

As for the paintjob, I LOVE the yellow. I have 4 mads here that need paint, so I will perhaps try and replicate that one here....
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Wombat on 25 January 2011, 20:41:48
Loving the purple. Yeah black wash is either bang-on or not. There is no inbetween.
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Klat on 25 January 2011, 20:42:07
I like it, nothing like a school-bus yellow Marauder to let peope know you mean business.  8)
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Bedwyr on 25 January 2011, 20:43:56
You mean brown washing?  It has to do with shading and tinting vs mixing colors.  When you add black, you're shading and the vibrance of the color decreases and decreases.  With such a light color like yellow, it gets ugly fast.  Mixing in brown does a good job of moving you around on the color wheel to a different (and pleasing) hue.  The other problem is that a lot of subtlety doesn't show up in photographs so you need to be almost overly bold with color variations.  That's how Pendragon comes up with such marvelous super-saturated minis; a style not far from the 'eavy metal of <game title redacted>.  He also does a lot of good light manipulation to accentuate all those saturated blends.


I really like the mini (a lot).  It's a good execution and you pulled off a very very hard color.  If I were to improve the shadows on the mini I'd try some panel lines in a very deep orange/brown to highlight what panel definition there is.
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Darrian Wolffe on 25 January 2011, 20:49:41
was the gun a replacement? Ir was the tip of the gun broken off? It looks original except for the very thin part at the end... I have both oval and hex bases here and all the guns look like the one in my pic above.

I cast the Mech myself from a leftover (and now gone) master mold at IWM.  It's about as original as you can get.  ;)


The really funny part about the Mech is that there's actually an honest-to-god "jewel" in the cockpit...it's just so far back in there you can't get anything from it.  OK, maybe just funny to me then.
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Wombat on 25 January 2011, 20:50:34
Sadly I'm a bit of a novice when it comes to washes and what-not. I've picked up a few Citadel washes and had passable results with them, but even I realize there's a huge difference between a well-painted mini and one that you've hodge-podged together that somehow still manages to get compliments from fat 13-year old virgins down at the gameshop.
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: JPArbiter on 25 January 2011, 20:53:45
It's Yellow, its Battledroids, and it's Canopion!

I call that a Winner!
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Nibs on 25 January 2011, 20:58:52
Whoa! I'm seeing double! Two awesome Marauders!  :)
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: invallid effort on 25 January 2011, 20:59:58
Looks very nice I am a fan of the yellow [rockon]
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Leonard Kerensky on 25 January 2011, 21:18:12
love how the yellow came out. there is a guy where i play 40k that has a full on imperial fists aremy the same color yellow. realy sharp looking too.

one of these years i want to try and get my hands on a battledroids marauder. for now i'll just make a drool puddle on my desk oggling yours.   [drool]
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Jal Phoenix on 25 January 2011, 21:45:10
That's nice.   O0  I recently stripped the one mini I had in this scheme because I didn't like it anymore.  I've had the idea to do one for some time now.  Nice to have this one in a relatively empty forum to refer to!

Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Doug Glendower on 25 January 2011, 21:53:39
Yellow is soooooo hard to do. I'm ok with it, but mine comes out more brown mustard...
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Amalor Myrnnyx on 25 January 2011, 22:01:28
Black wash does not work with yellow. You actually want a chestnut or flesh wash to get the best effect.
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Sagittaire on 25 January 2011, 22:13:54
Nice  8)
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: ShockaTime on 25 January 2011, 23:30:32
I love the yellow, it's a really hard colour to do right, and you did it perfectly, well done  O0
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Stormlion1 on 25 January 2011, 23:31:45
Looks excellent! Wish whenever I use yellow it would come out half as good.
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Force of Nature on 25 January 2011, 23:48:11
Nice Marauders!

Here is my BD Marauder (with friends) with the tiny gunsight at the end of the barrel.

Force

Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Siberian-troll on 25 January 2011, 23:52:54
(http://www.skumm.ca/pics/battledroids/1stFWGuards_Marauder1.jpg)
Ouch. This purple so smooth, that it hurts.
Thank you for it. Marik's "gems" so very rare...
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Fletch on 26 January 2011, 00:10:30
Great way to break into the new forums.  Sweet ride.
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Col.Hengist on 26 January 2011, 00:43:11
Your use of color is really nice and the wash is the perfect color.That yellow is hard to paint with, most of the time it doesn't really paint but smear.
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Lord Cameron on 26 January 2011, 03:02:24


Loving the purple. Yeah black wash is either bang-on or not. There is no inbetween.

+1  8)
But then I'm partial to purple.
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: jc.knight on 26 January 2011, 04:17:45
The legs on the bus go STOMP STOMP STOMP.......  [notworthy]
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: 17th Spartans on 26 January 2011, 09:35:00
OMG! Must get a Battledroid Marauder!  [rockon] [notworthy] :o :o :o :D :D
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: serrate on 26 January 2011, 10:28:19
Looks even better in person than it does in this pic.  Nice job Rob!
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: phlop on 26 January 2011, 10:39:53
I remember the contest you entered this in. Still looks good.  :)
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: pagan on 26 January 2011, 11:59:26
Nice.  Very bright, but nice.  8)
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: foxbat on 26 January 2011, 13:04:09
Always heartwarming to see some nicely done Marauders like these!  [rockon]

Regarding how to do yellow, there was an excellent tutorial by jjpens, but apparently the link has gone dead. Does anyone know if it's been posted somewhere again? I hate to lose my archived pages...
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: jimdigris on 26 January 2011, 18:11:47
Beautiful work on the Marauder. O0
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Schottenjaeger on 26 January 2011, 18:37:10
Very nice yellow - I think the sheer size of the pic is making it look a bit grainy. As for the beads, that's a good idea; I think I have some seed beads lying around the house from one of my other projects, will try it on my bashed Maddy
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Vlads Fangs on 26 January 2011, 19:44:57
 O0
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Saint on 26 January 2011, 21:11:33
Great job on the Mad [rockon]

Love the old minis.
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: ogre on 26 January 2011, 21:30:45
Awesome old-school work!
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: LordNth on 26 January 2011, 21:38:53
What are those sticking out fo the base?  Not in figures but those long tulip looking things?

PS can we get more awesome Marauders in this thread?
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Schottenjaeger on 26 January 2011, 23:02:51
Looks like florist's wire with a dollop of glue on the end.
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Darrian Wolffe on 27 January 2011, 01:11:46
Looks like florist's wire with a dollop of glue on the end.

Pretty close: toothbrush bristles with a drop of Zap-a-gap.  Makes great waterside foliage (there's a tiny pond next to it, but it's very hard to make out in the pic).
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: GunjiNoKanrei on 27 January 2011, 11:06:58
Black wash does not work with yellow. You actually want a chestnut or flesh wash to get the best effect.
Seconded. I have been getting good results using GW's Dark Flesh to shade yellow.

To make up for the lack of panel lines you could try to apply a few controlled washes of Dark Flesh where natural shadows would be, for example towards the underside of the torso or below the turbine/tank/whatever thingies, the sides of the weapon pods on the arms, ... This would break up the yellow and add more depth to the miniature.

Impressive work with a difficult color nonetheless :) I really like how the infantry miniatures give a sense of scale. They really make the Marauder look huge.
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Jaim Magnus on 27 January 2011, 20:35:55
Ahhh, the classic Marauder.  Nice to see one of those every now and then.
Nice job on the base.
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Choppa 6 on 27 January 2011, 21:07:35
Good Yellow!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: Acecrew135 on 28 January 2011, 19:37:48
That's Beautiful!!! Just pretty
Title: Re: Starting off right - Canopian Marauder
Post by: GRF-1N on 29 January 2011, 08:22:23
I can do desert yellow! But bright yellow - too hard! Maybe it's time to be challenged.

What other units have a primarily yellow scheme? Wolf's Dragoon's Aerospace fighters are "canary" yellow,Lyran Alliance 1st Coventry Jaegers quickly spring to mind. Anyone want to give it a go and post a picture? Rather than just talk about it .....