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Title: UAC/5 Field Gun platoon
Post by: Maingunnery on 14 April 2018, 18:17:10: I never really did any infantry design, so here is my first attempt, feedback please.
The choice for the UAC/5 was because of its compromise between firepower and range, especially considering field guns don't jam.
I used just 3 squads as I wanted to limit the transport weight to a maximum of 50 tons.
I imagine that each squad has an open tractor with ammo bin that is connected to an Ultra AC/5 field gun, and having a ammo feed hanging between them.

U/AC5 Field Guns Infantry
Base Tech Level: Standard (Clan)
Level Era
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Experimental -
Advanced 3090+
Standard -
Tech Rating: F/X-X-E-D

BV: 305
Cost: 1,585,185.6 C-bills

Movement: 3/3

Soldiers: 21 (7/3)
Armor: 1.0

Primary Weapon: Gauss Submachinegun
Secondary Weapon: None
Damage per trooper: 0.450

Weapons Loc Heat
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Ultra AC/5 FGUN 1
Ultra AC/5 FGUN 1
Ultra AC/5 FGUN 1
Gauss Submachinegun MEN 0

Equipment Loc
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Clan Armor Kit (All) MEN

Transport weight: 45.5 tons
Title: Re: UAC/5 Field Gun platoon
Post by: Hellraiser on 21 October 2018, 00:57:54: Just game across this so a bit late commenting, but, its under staffed.

You have to have at least 27 men to move the ACs, 1 per ton of gun.

So I would go with a standard 28 man platoon which is an even 6 tons & also allows you 1 soak damage before loosing at Ultra.

Total platoons weight would be 36 tons.
Title: Re: UAC/5 Field Gun platoon
Post by: Maingunnery on 21 October 2018, 03:08:27: Those are Clan UAC/5s, so its 3x7 tons.
Title: Re: UAC/5 Field Gun platoon
Post by: Hellraiser on 21 October 2018, 16:35:33: Ah, I didn't catch that it was a clan platoon.

In that case I'd still up it to 25 troops, a proper point, and give yourself some soak troops.

Why is the transport weight so much?

Even as clan it should still be 30 tons not the 45.5 you have.
Title: Re: UAC/5 Field Gun platoon
Post by: Maingunnery on 21 October 2018, 17:59:02: According to MegaMekLab that is the weight, there might be a bug?
Title: Re: UAC/5 Field Gun platoon
Post by: Andras on 21 October 2018, 18:27:25: I'm getting 29.5t
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New Infantry Clan advanced BV: 351 Cost: 3,711,567.01 C-bills Movement: 3/3 Men: 25 (5/5) Armor: 2.0 Primary Weapon: Gauss Submachinegun Secondary Weapon: None Damage per trooper: 0.36 Weapon Loc Heat ---------------------------------------- Ultra AC/5 FGUN 1 Ultra AC/5 FGUN 1 Ultra AC/5 FGUN 1 Gauss Submachinegun MEN 0 Ammo Loc Shots ---------------------------------------- Ultra AC/5 Ammo FGUN 20 Ultra AC/5 Ammo FGUN 20 Ultra AC/5 Ammo FGUN 20 Equipment Loc ---------------------------------- Clan Armor Kit (All) MEN
Title: Re: UAC/5 Field Gun platoon
Post by: Maingunnery on 21 October 2018, 19:14:03: Quote from: Andras on 21 October 2018, 18:27:25
I'm getting 29.5t
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New Infantry Clan advanced BV: 351 Cost: 3,711,567.01 C-bills Movement: 3/3 Men: 25 (5/5) Armor: 2.0 Primary Weapon: Gauss Submachinegun Secondary Weapon: None Damage per trooper: 0.36 Weapon Loc Heat ---------------------------------------- Ultra AC/5 FGUN 1 Ultra AC/5 FGUN 1 Ultra AC/5 FGUN 1 Gauss Submachinegun MEN 0 Ammo Loc Shots ---------------------------------------- Ultra AC/5 Ammo FGUN 20 Ultra AC/5 Ammo FGUN 20 Ultra AC/5 Ammo FGUN 20 Equipment Loc ---------------------------------- Clan Armor Kit (All) MEN

I am using Mechanized (Tracked), which seriously ups the weight.

But there are some serious issues with how MegaMekLab handles calculations and the unclear outputs.
Title: Re: UAC/5 Field Gun platoon
Post by: Hellraiser on 21 October 2018, 19:21:26: Quote from: Maingunnery on 21 October 2018, 19:14:03
I am using Mechanized (Tracked), which seriously ups the weight.

But there are some serious issues with how MegaMekLab handles calculations and the unclear outputs.

Ah, well there's the reason.

I was calculating them as Motorized.

What are you planning on transporting them in that you need them under 50 tons?

AFAIK nothing carries Mechanized infantry specifically, just raw tonnage in cargo bays.
Title: Re: UAC/5 Field Gun platoon
Post by: Andras on 21 October 2018, 19:30:09: You cost is off though (way off)

5x5 Clan Mech Tracked w 3 UAC5s and Gauss SMGs
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New Infantry Clan experimental BV: 376 Cost: 6,796,134.02 C-bills Movement: 3/3 Men: 25 (5/5) Armor: 2.0 Primary Weapon: Gauss Submachinegun Secondary Weapon: None Damage per trooper: 0.36 Weapon Loc Heat ---------------------------------------- Ultra AC/5 FGUN 1 Ultra AC/5 FGUN 1 Ultra AC/5 FGUN 1 Gauss Submachinegun MEN 0 Ammo Loc Shots ---------------------------------------- Ultra AC/5 Ammo FGUN 20 Ultra AC/5 Ammo FGUN 20 Ultra AC/5 Ammo FGUN 20 Equipment Loc ---------------------------------- Clan Armor Kit (All) MEN
49.5t

BTW, The Gauss SMGs more then triple the cost of the unit, it's only 2.2m c-bills with Auto-Rifles.
Title: Re: UAC/5 Field Gun platoon
Post by: Hammer on 21 October 2018, 22:15:53: What versions of the Lab are being used?
Title: Re: UAC/5 Field Gun platoon
Post by: Maingunnery on 22 October 2018, 11:06:41: Quote from: Hellraiser on 21 October 2018, 19:21:26
What are you planning on transporting them in that you need them under 50 tons?

AFAIK nothing carries Mechanized infantry specifically, just raw tonnage in cargo bays.
Nothing in mind, I just don't feel like spending more.

Quote from: Hammer on 21 October 2018, 22:15:53
What versions of the Lab are being used?
0.45.1