BattleTech: Clan Invasion Kickstarter Discussion, Vol. 1

[RazorclawXLS]

Apologies for the relative silence today, I'll do my best to keep up for the rest of the weekend.

Don't worry, Cubby. Considering how fast this thread was going until yesterday, it's completely understandable.

[Phobos101]

If anyone's interested in seeing how the new sculpts spread across eras/TROs, I did a thing:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zPPMgJl08vkuDzPB4iNqWiG74sGJjNuT/view?usp=sharing

If it's coloured, there's a new sculpt;
AC= A Game of Armored Combat Plastics
BB= Beginner Box Plastics
CI= Clan Invasion Box Plastics
LP= Plastic Lance/Star Packs
IWM= Recent high-fidelity resculpts by IWM in metal

[H.B.M.C.]

Do we know yet what is exclusive to the Kickstarter? I presume the faction packs/challenge coins, but I presume that things like the dice, or the character card decks, and so on will be available after the fact?

BYE

[Cubby]

And still little to no info on how they're going to handle so many.

Because we're still figuring it out. And probably will be for awhile.

People could make their life easier maybe by spec'ing out non-badass hero characters. Instead, some type of civilian role or non-combat enlisted role, characters whom would fit a support role in essence. E.g.: a mechanic, engineer of some sort, transport pilot or crew, radar tech, etc...

I appreciate the thought--we certainly don't need 1,000 MechWarrior Mary Sues. But specifics are going to be harder for us to incorporate and navigate. not easier.

Do we know yet what is exclusive to the Kickstarter? I presume the faction packs/challenge coins, but I presume that things like the dice, or the character card decks, and so on will be available after the fact?

Anything marked specifically as "exclusive," will be exclusive. Anything not so marked may and in most cases (Lance and Star Packs) likely will be available at retail at some point. But I don't have specifics on date, or whether your own personal LGS will for sure have them.

[Lynx]

Do we know yet what is exclusive to the Kickstarter? I presume the faction packs/challenge coins, but I presume that things like the dice, or the character card decks, and so on will be available after the fact?

My own internal records goes as follows for Exclusives:

Exclusive Dog Tag
Exclusive Daggerstar Keychain
Exclusive Invasion Box Cover
Exclusive Mechwarriors cards
Exclusive Poster
Exclusive Batchall Scenario
Exclusive Blitzkrieg Scenario
Exclusive Grand Melee Scenario
Exclusive Last Stand Scenario
Exclusive Trial of Position Scenario

[PyreLight]

My own internal records goes as follows for Exclusives:

Exclusive Dog Tag
Exclusive Daggerstar Keychain
Exclusive Invasion Box Cover
Exclusive Mechwarriors cards
Exclusive Poster
Exclusive Batchall Scenario
Exclusive Blitzkrieg Scenario
Exclusive Grand Melee Scenario
Exclusive Last Stand Scenario
Exclusive Trial of Position Scenario

Exclusive Leather-bound hardback of Mechwarrior: Legends

[YingJanshi]

My own internal records goes as follows for Exclusives:

Exclusive Dog Tag
Exclusive Daggerstar Keychain
Exclusive Invasion Box Cover
Exclusive Mechwarriors cards
Exclusive Poster
Exclusive Batchall Scenario
Exclusive Blitzkrieg Scenario
Exclusive Grand Melee Scenario
Exclusive Last Stand Scenario
Exclusive Trial of Position Scenario

And the exclusive dice bags.
Also, it says the black enamel challenge coins are exclusive. (Perhaps we will get non-enameled coins at a later date? But that's purely speculation on my part.)

[Euphonium]

Just remember, you don't have to buy it all at once now. Most of it will eventually be sold retail later.

I'd feel better about that if I hadn't spent most of the last 15 years missing out on physical BT products because they were available for a week then perpetually "awaiting restock." It very much feels like it will be my only chance to get any of this stuff.

[pheonixstorm]

At least these days you can try and get it from your FLGS, Amazon, online FLGS (such as miniature market), or ebay market/auction

[Silverline]

I've posted this in the KS comments but I'll toss it here too:

Something that I'd really like to see as a later stretch goal is an art book, showing the concept design sketches for all the redesigns and perhaps some of the older art as a side-by-side comparison to show how the aesthetic has evolved over time - and it's something that isn't necessarily a physical offering

[Sartris]

I'd feel better about that if I hadn't spent most of the last 15 years missing out on physical BT products because they were available for a week then perpetually "awaiting restock." It very much feels like it will be my only chance to get any of this stuff.

A fear not unfounded. Acquiring about a quarter of the CGL era books for my collection in the last couple years was... painful - on par with the rarest of rare FASA sourcebooks. However the fact that the new boxes have been reprinted a few times already and the battlemats are getting another run has improved my mood (apologies to the Europeans. I know things are still frustrating on the distribution end).

Whatever the case I’m going to bite the bullet hard up front to avoid a potential years-long wait for some items

[PyreLight]

I've posted this in the KS comments but I'll toss it here too:

Something that I'd really like to see as a later stretch goal is an art book, showing the concept design sketches for all the redesigns and perhaps some of the older art as a side-by-side comparison to show how the aesthetic has evolved over time - and it's something that isn't necessarily a physical offering

We got the 25 Years of Art & Fiction 10 years ago. It would be cool to see something similar for the last 10 years or so, especially now that the redesigned Unseen are back.

[Euphonium]

A fear not unfounded. Acquiring about a quarter of the CGL era books for my collection in the last couple years was... painful - on par with the rarest of rare FASA sourcebooks. However the fact that the new boxes have been reprinted a few times already and the battlemats are getting another run has improved my mood (apologies to the Europeans. I know things are still frustrating on the distribution end).

Whatever the case I’m going to bite the bullet hard up front to avoid a potential years-long wait for some items

I'm one of those Europeans  :P

I got lucky and managed get the GoAC box via a friend who happened to see one and grabbed it for me. Other than that, the last time I managed got get physical BT product involved ordering them from the old BattleShop and having them delivered to my (now ex-)inlaws in the US. They only took about 5 years to be delivered.

I've backed at Bloodnamed, and have set aside another $100 to get extra lance/star packs. I'm torn over whether to try & stretch to Star Colonel now the orbital drop has happened. If I read it correctly $300 at Bloodnamed gets me 2x2 + 6x1, for 10 star/lance packs of 8 types, while Star Colonel gets me 6x2 star/lances for 12 packs total but only 6 different ones.

I'll add that I'm not interested in having a canon CHR who's just a throwaway line in a book somewhere. I'd much rather have the same $ value in loot  ;D

[kinwolf]

I really hope so, because I want a set of FRR dice.

I.. dammit, my determinination to not get extra dice is faltering   :-\

[DarkSpade]

And still little to no info on how they're going to handle so many.  [Canon characters]

Because we're still figuring it out. And probably will be for awhile.

Any chance you'll have something before the Kickstarter ends?  Like I said earlier, I hate harping on this, but when spending this much money I'd like to have some kind of idea on what I'm getting.   I don't need a fully detailed outline, but some idea of what might happen and/or what won't would be nice.

[I am Belch II]

I would love to get a poster out of the deal. I need a new battletech poster for the game room.

[Maingunnery]

Because we're still figuring it out. And probably will be for awhile.


Any chance you'll have something before the Kickstarter ends?  Like I said earlier, I hate harping on this, but when spending this much money I'd like to have some kind of idea on what I'm getting.   I don't need a fully detailed outline, but some idea of what might happen and/or what won't would be nice.

Indeed, I am planning on Bloodnamed but I am willing to go up to Galaxy Commander if I know what the value of each canon character is (I am assuming that each pledge group will be treated differently).

[Sartris]

Because we're still figuring it out. And probably will be for awhile.


Any chance you'll have something before the Kickstarter ends?  Like I said earlier, I hate harping on this, but when spending this much money I'd like to have some kind of idea on what I'm getting.   I don't need a fully detailed outline, but some idea of what might happen and/or what won't would be nice.

I’m of the same mind. Just want to know if the extra cash to be at galaxy commander will net something tangible. Otherwise I’ll drop down to star colonel and spend that money on addons

Some Galaxy commander level with art will be used when the premium clan pilot deck with a photo on the back goal is reached.

[BairdEC]

The 40K unlock was the "Clan Juggernaut" printed poster for ristar backers and above.  Plus another physical poster at 320K, both as exclusives.

I would love to get a poster out of the deal. I need a new battletech poster for the game room.

[Adrian Gideon]

Because we're still figuring it out. And probably will be for awhile.


Any chance you'll have something before the Kickstarter ends?  Like I said earlier, I hate harping on this, but when spending this much money I'd like to have some kind of idea on what I'm getting.   I don't need a fully detailed outline, but some idea of what might happen and/or what won't would be nice.

The character name is guaranteed to be used somewhere, in a BattleTech product. Any other information provided *might* be used, will try to be used, at CGL’s discretion. There will be an update to the FAQ this week with clearer language.

[Sartris]

fair enough. thanks for the update

[Cache]

RE: canon character naming

They did this a while ago for the demo agents, IIRC. I can't remember the sourcebook off-hand, but there are a lot of familiar names throughout.

[Frabby]

RE: canon character naming

They did this a while ago for the demo agents, IIRC. I can't remember the sourcebook off-hand, but there are a lot of familiar names throughout.

A bunch of freelancers was "canonized" as SLS WarShips joning Kerenky's exodus in a picture... somewhere.

Edit: The image on p. 9 of Field Manual: Updates.

[Cache]

A bunch of freelancers was "canonized" as SLS WarShips joning Kerenky's exodus in a picture... somewhere.

Edit: The image on p. 9 of Field Manual: Updates.

TRO: 3050U has some as well, along with new variants, but neither are the book I'm remembering.

[Robroy]

Any chance the 2nd Star League will be a faction to unlock?

[General308]

The character name is guaranteed to be used somewhere, in a BattleTech product. Any other information provided *might* be used, will try to be used, at CGL’s discretion. There will be an update to the FAQ this week with clearer language.

Thank you this needs to be updated.  I am not going to lie I am just happy with a name.  But that FAQ makes it look like a lot more and if Cataylst isn't real clear on the Kickstarter page what is going to happen it is going to lead to major problems.   I don't want that I see this kickstarter opening up a new lease on life for the game

[Azakael]

Welp. Wonder what our new Lance/ Star Pack is going to be now... We hit $850,000.

[Sartris]

I wouldn’t blame them for taking the rest of the day to ready any updates and make sure all the messaging is consistent.

[Charlie 6]

Random thought, I sure hope that if a Clan Invasion Box Set mini-only option pops up that is doesn't disrupt Box Set backing or sales.

[top_hat]

Anyone heard anything official about picking up multiple pledges?  Really want to double down on Star Colonel (plenty of "picks" and twice the goodies!). 

It would be super helpful if we could select Elementals as part of our Star/Lance picks........