NEW RELEASE: Shattered Fortress

[sadlerbw]

The Warlord so nice, they killed him twice!

[Drewbacca]

Finally finished the book. I really enjoyed it and it left me wanting more. Even more so, the snippets of info on the Wolf's Dragoons have managed to do something nothing else has done since I started playing in 1991, it got me interested in the Wolf's Dragoons. I am not a fan of the major units, normally, especially the ones who always seem to win. But they came across as pretty enigmatic in Shattered Fortress and now my interest is piqued.

[Captain of C-21]

Does anyone;

A) Have a complete list of units from 3145 FM that got destroyed in this book?  I'd like to see a list of how many regiments each force lost according to these battles. shame the Republic lost so much, but I noticed it was mostly Triarii and Principes Regiments, no Hastati or Stone's

B)have a nicer looking map from this book for 3151, preferably colored?  I know some people out there are really good at doing that sort of thing.

[nova_dew]

Does anyone;

A) Have a complete list of units from 3145 FM that got destroyed in this book?  I'd like to see a list of how many regiments each force lost according to these battles. shame the Republic lost so much, but I noticed it was mostly Triarii and Principes Regiments, no Hastati or Stone's

B)have a nicer looking map from this book for 3151, preferably colored?  I know some people out there are really good at doing that sort of thing.

I suspect A) will be answered in the next book and B) either in the same book or an Era Report book.

It would be nice to have a google maps-esque map of the BT universe where you can toggle boundaries, planet name changes (here's looking at you Planet Bob iirc) as well as missing ones by era, but that would be a lot of work and possibly expense and a bit of a double edged sword for the source book map makers with changing formats before and after editing but a handy resource for knowing whats where and when and claimed by whom

[Maelwys]

Is there a full map of 3150, or only the split vesion?

[Minemech]

 I miss Wizkids interactive map of the Republic, though admittingly they did not keep it up to date.

[Wrangler]

Is there a full map of 3150, or only the split vesion?

Split

[Stormlion1]

Finally finished it. Not gonna lie. Not how I expected it to end. But hey, I got to have a little Faith don't I?

[Decoy]

TBH, I thought the Combine would turn the "Dragon's Tongue" into a big scoop back towards the Kuritan border, yet the Fed Suns would still have New Avalon. Also, my reading of New Syrtis would have the Fed Suns loosing it. *shrugs*

[Wrangler]

TBH, I thought the Combine would turn the "Dragon's Tongue" into a big scoop back towards the Kuritan border, yet the Fed Suns would still have New Avalon. Also, my reading of New Syrtis would have the Fed Suns loosing it. *shrugs*

It's certainly not warm and fuzzy situation.  I guess were more used to having the entire story arch of stuff happening one swoop in a book verse being stringed along. 

Change had to happen, just how much can we handle is another story.  ;D

That's why I was for the 100 year time jump, since i honestly think it be skip a lot anxiety going slow into the future.  We could been reading the newly resurrected Federated Suns, former Clan-Sub State of IlClan verse whatever this new version of the ilClan is going turn out to be.

[Adrian Gideon]

Exactly.

[Trystan Thorne]

I'm not always keeping up to date, so no time jump anymore then?  :o
A pity really, because personally I think that a bit of a new start would do BT good.

[Geont]

I'm not always keeping up to date, so no time jump anymore then?  :o
A pity really, because personally I think that a bit of a new start would do BT good.

From what I read on forum and elsewhere there was big upheaval from some fans when news of previously intended time jump (I don't know how big) leaked. That forced CGL back to drawing board. At least that is how I interpreted it. Maybe someone from CGL stuff or someone who was here at that time could bring a light into this.

[RoundTop]

CGL does not comment on what might be or may have been.

[mbear]

Baseless Speculation mode active

* TRO:Succession Wars refers to the "Third League." The Word of Blake was trying to create the "Third Transfer." So obviously the remnants of the Word of Blake join forces with the ilClan as the army of the Third League!

* The surviving Kell Hounds headed into the Periphery. They're going to the place where Katrina Steiner, Arthur Luvon, and Morgan Kell found the first Black Boxes. They find that this is actually a Ruins of Gabriel style hidden HPG research center. They recover the technology and invest heavily in bringing it back to the Inner Sphere, replacing ComStar with HoundCom. In the Free Worlds League, HoundCom competes directly with FoxNet (former ComStar holdings taken by Clan Sea Fox). Eventually the two interstellar phone companies come to blows, leading to the Communications Wars.

* Third League is led by a civilian, but the ilKhan is the Commanding General of the Third League Army. The Loremaster is the Director of Military Intelligence.

Baseless Speculation mode inactive

[phoenixalpha]

Does it say anywhere that the "fleet" at the end of the book is definitely a Clan "fleet". Could it be Blakists?

[Jaim Magnus]

Does it say anywhere that the "fleet" at the end of the book is definitely a Clan "fleet". Could it be Blakists?

Yes, it's in the very last paragraph "an entire fleet of Clan vessels", which then broadcasts a challenge.

Soooooo, not Blakists.

[Kit deSummersville]

Yes, it's in the very last paragraph "an entire fleet of Clan vessels", which then broadcasts a challenge.

Soooooo, not Blakists.

Unless they stole a bunch of Clan ships.  ^-^

[Jaim Magnus]

Unless they stole a bunch of Clan ships.  ^-^

Don't give ammo to the tinfoil hats.   :P

[Weirdo]

Are we talking about a real fleet, or just a bunch of JumpShips and DropShips? If so, we know which Clan it is, since only one of them can ever use the word fleet without excessive sobbing.

No, I'm not talking about the Ravens. They're pretentious, but it's still not enough to be called a fleet. I'm talking about the Blood Spirits, because their tear ducts were sealed shut by spite centuries ago.

[phoenixalpha]

Clan Word of Blake? *cough* Wolverine?

[Sartris]

Clan Word of Blake? *cough* Wolverine?

talk about long play revenge

[Tai Dai Cultist]

Are we talking about a real fleet, or just a bunch of JumpShips and DropShips? If so, we know which Clan it is, since only one of them can ever use the word fleet without excessive sobbing.

No, I'm not talking about the Ravens. They're pretentious, but it's still not enough to be called a fleet. I'm talking about the Blood Spirits, because their tear ducts were sealed shut by spite centuries ago.

A bunch of JumpShips and DropShips is a fleet, without needing to delve into tinfoil wearing conspiracies.  The reference might prove to be talking about a fleet including WarShips, but it didn't ever say WarShips were involved.  We likely won't hear anything more about it until ilClan, and the absence of reference to WarShips is imo probably a completely deliberate meta-move to avoid excluding the dark horses such as WiE, Fidelis, Foxes, and etc from being the mystery faction behind the fleet.

Unless they stole a bunch of Clan ships.  ^-^

Don't give ammo to the tinfoil hats.   :P

*Dons tinfoil hat*

You know it doesn't have to be stolen Clan ships... the Draconis Combine's been building Clan ships since the Jihad...

[phoenixalpha]

talk about long play revenge

Where did all those Wolverine ships go to? Who said the Blakists havent been to the Home Worlds and taken over?

[Rainbow 6]

Where did all those Wolverine ships go to? Who said the Blakists havent been to the Home Worlds and taken over?

Now there's an idea I could get behind.

[worktroll]

Baseless Speculation mode active
* The surviving Kell Hounds headed into the Periphery. They're going to the place where Katrina Steiner, Arthur Luvon, and Morgan Kell found the first Black Boxes. They find that this is actually a Ruins of Gabriel style hidden HPG research center. They recover the technology and invest heavily in bringing it back to the Inner Sphere, replacing ComStar with HoundCom. In the Free Worlds League, HoundCom competes directly with FoxNet (former ComStar holdings taken by Clan Sea Fox). Eventually the two interstellar phone companies come to blows, leading to the Communications Wars.
Baseless Speculation mode inactive

I find your argument strangely compelling, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter ;)

W.

[Louie N]

I have a fan theory for all of you... its a Trap!

With the Jade Falcons, Kurita, and Liao all pushing to Terrra.  What if the fortress system was activated trapping these agreessors in the core systems.  No one gets in and no one gets out.

I would feel bad for the planets inside, but hey we "saved" the rest of the Inner Shpere

Thanks

[Frank]

I have a fan theory for all of you... its a Trap!

With the Jade Falcons, Kurita, and Liao all pushing to Terrra.  What if the fortress system was activated trapping these agreessors in the core systems.  No one gets in and no one gets out.

I would feel bad for the planets inside, but hey we "saved" the rest of the Inner Shpere

Thanks

Wouldn't that be something. I think no-one thought of that possibility. Trap all the bad guys in one place and thrash them. What a battle of the ages that would be.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Sharpnel]

Wouldn't that be something. I think no-one thought of that possibility. Trap all the bad guys in one place and thrash them. What a battle of the ages that would be.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Unless they band together and then kick your butts from here to next Christmas.

[Frabby]

I have a fan theory for all of you... its a Trap!

:o
That's... intriguing. I like this one!