Author Topic: Clan Blood Spirit: Get Off Our Lawn (Read 136638 times)

Sjhernan3060 · « **Reply #60 on:** 21 September 2018, 21:55:55 »

Right I think the second lost ship would be a congress or a Essex. I am leaning toward the Congress.

I don’t care for the Cameron as it always is depicted as a brick of a ship which underperformed

Kit deSummersville · « **Reply #61 on:** 21 September 2018, 22:01:23 »

It was a McKenna but all the weapons were removed and replaced with ER Large Lasers and LRM-15s.

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #62 on:** 22 September 2018, 06:01:21 »

Quote from: Kit deSummersville on 21 September 2018, 22:01:23

It was a McKenna but all the weapons were removed and replaced with ER Large Lasers and LRM-15s.

That would simplify maitnence now wouldnt it?

The Eagle · « **Reply #63 on:** 22 September 2018, 07:12:49 »

Quote from: Kit deSummersville on 21 September 2018, 22:01:23

It was a McKenna but all the weapons were removed and replaced with ER Large Lasers and LRM-15s.

I'll be in my bunk.

Sjhernan3060 · « **Reply #64 on:** 24 September 2018, 13:43:31 »

I am going to go a bit different and have the missing ship be a Kimagure.

Wolf72 · « **Reply #65 on:** 24 September 2018, 20:00:23 »

Quote from: Kit deSummersville on 21 September 2018, 22:01:23

It was a McKenna but all the weapons were removed and replaced with ER Large Lasers and LRM-15s.

funny! ;D

Shin_Fenris · « **Reply #66 on:** 25 September 2018, 10:46:59 »

Quote from: Kit deSummersville on 21 September 2018, 22:01:23

It was a McKenna but all the weapons were removed and replaced with ER Large Lasers and LRM-15s.

Space Blood Kites were all the rage back then.

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #67 on:** 26 September 2018, 15:19:51 »

Another Class possibility would be the Sovetskii Soyuz Class. Supposedly around 40 left with the Exodus Fleet but we only have around fifteen or so named. And the Clan's had at least one in mothballs after the Pentagon Wars as the Athena was put there after the Widowmaker Absorption. But who knows if there were more?

Sjhernan3060 · « **Reply #68 on:** 26 September 2018, 18:25:01 »

Quote from: Stormlion1 on 26 September 2018, 15:19:51

Another Class possibility would be the Sovetskii Soyuz Class. Supposedly around 40 left with the Exodus Fleet but we only have around fifteen or so named. And the Clan's had at least one in mothballs after the Pentagon Wars as the Athena was put there after the Widowmaker Absorption. But who knows if there were more?

Right I picked one up but I think I will roll it into my jag fleet along w the liberator I just bought. I will have the spirits salvage the soyez after they take huntress

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #69 on:** 27 September 2018, 07:42:15 »

I considered the Liberator as the Clan flagship but the math accounts for the 6 that went on the Exodus.

Sjhernan3060 · « **Reply #70 on:** 27 September 2018, 08:52:02 »

I am
Curious why the powers that be are so exacting with numbers of units? As said it is clearly stated that only liberators existed. Why limit the number? Why not say “ 6 avatars were taken out of moth balls it is unknown how many avatars remain unmodifed”

Kit deSummersville · « **Reply #71 on:** 27 September 2018, 09:32:12 »

Quote from: Sjhernan3060 on 27 September 2018, 08:52:02

I am
Curious why the powers that be are so exacting with numbers of units?

LOL

Sjhernan3060 · « **Reply #72 on:** 27 September 2018, 10:34:24 »

Quote from: Kit deSummersville on 27 September 2018, 09:32:12

LOL

Do you know?

Kit deSummersville · « **Reply #73 on:** 27 September 2018, 10:59:12 »

Quote from: Sjhernan3060 on 27 September 2018, 10:34:24

Do you know?

The common lament is that recent publications have gone away from specific numbers (such as the production rates in the House Marik Handbook) to more vague descriptions. I think you'll find yourself in the minority with such a complaint.

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #74 on:** 27 September 2018, 17:16:27 »

Firm numbers are always great but even I hot to admit they would hamper the game a lot. Particularly in the way of warships. Seriously, could you imagine the reaction if the writers pulled a McKenna out of the Dzvions backyard and just said 'but its always been there!' And warships are pretty big and obvious so exact numbers should be easier to account for rather than how many Atlas mechs were produced throughout the Inner Sphere in 3053.

jklantern · « **Reply #75 on:** 27 September 2018, 18:48:26 »

Quote from: Stormlion1 on 27 September 2018, 17:16:27

Firm numbers are always great but even I hot to admit they would hamper the game a lot. Particularly in the way of warships. Seriously, could you imagine the reaction if the writers pulled a McKenna out of the Dzvions backyard and just said 'but its always been there!' And warships are pretty big and obvious so exact numbers should be easier to account for rather than how many Atlas mechs were produced throughout the Inner Sphere in 3053.

87.2. It would've been 88, but Dave fell into the production equipment.

Icerose20 · « **Reply #76 on:** 28 September 2018, 01:01:09 »

We told Dave not to wear those Robes near the actuators.

Elmoth · « **Reply #77 on:** 28 September 2018, 02:20:34 »

He never listened

DOC_Agren · « **Reply #78 on:** 29 September 2018, 08:19:22 »

but to be fair his robe was comfortable, and he would have been fine if not for the belt flapping

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #79 on:** 29 September 2018, 12:07:11 »

Was the sad part that everyone misses him now or that he destroyed one nice snazzy robe?

jklantern · « **Reply #80 on:** 29 September 2018, 13:59:25 »

Quote from: Stormlion1 on 29 September 2018, 12:07:11

Was the sad part that everyone misses him now or that he destroyed one nice snazzy robe?

Snazzy is an understatement. That was the kind of robe that Archons, First Lords, and ilKhans WISH they had. Really, I have no idea how he got it.

DOC_Agren · « **Reply #81 on:** 29 September 2018, 15:50:04 »

I heard he found it in a box on the side of the road heading to the Starport, and he would have returned it but just too comfy

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #82 on:** 30 September 2018, 09:06:05 »

Back to the original crux of the discussion. Unless the Blood Spirits were incompetent they would not have lost a Battleship against a Black Lion. So the Carmine Justice had to have been a cruiser or Battlecruiser. So like I said before it was either a Cameron or possibly another Black Lion. I am thinking it was a Cameron as if two Black Lions had duked it out I doubt the Star Adder Black Lion would have remained in service afterwords

Sjhernan3060 · « **Reply #83 on:** 30 September 2018, 09:53:35 »

Quote from: Stormlion1 on 30 September 2018, 09:06:05

Back to the original crux of the discussion. Unless the Blood Spirits were incompetent they would not have lost a Battleship against a Black Lion. So the Carmine Justice had to have been a cruiser or Battlecruiser. So like I said before it was either a Cameron or possibly another Black Lion. I am thinking it was a Cameron as if two Black Lions had duked it out I doubt the Star Adder Black Lion would have remained in service afterwords

They still had a black lion after the absorption debacle do you think it was likely that they had two? I agree that a Cameron would be a likely contender but how about a McKenna or Farragut?

Sjhernan3060 · « **Reply #84 on:** 30 September 2018, 10:05:52 »

A Texas also would be acceptable!

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #85 on:** 01 October 2018, 15:26:58 »

Quote from: Sjhernan3060 on 30 September 2018, 10:05:52

A Texas also would be acceptable!

All the Texas Battleships that went with Kerensky can be accounted for in other Clan's fleets. Mckenna or Farragut's are also contenders but I have doubts as the Star Adders wouldn't take a Battleship on with a Black Lion. Its one of the reasons I'm betting on a Cruiser or Battlecruiser for the original Flagship. And with there already existing a Black Lion in the Naval Reserve I doubt they would have had a smaller ship as there Flagship.

Honestly I would love for it to have been a Battleship, but numbers don't lie as all the Farraguts were scrapped or left behind after the War against Amaris and the remaining Monsoon's were not part of the SLDF but the Amaris Fleet or the Star League Member States. We can even account for the remaining Dreadnoughts to a degree.

Sjhernan3060 · « **Reply #86 on:** 02 October 2018, 07:48:31 »

What would recommend for a spirit air superiority and air to ground aerofighter?

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #87 on:** 02 October 2018, 10:53:26 »

Blood Spirits probably didnt have the best Omnifighters and made use of updated SLDF designs primarily. But I would bet they would have a small core of Omnifighters. Gonna say Vandal, Turk, and the Visigoth are all good bets.

Sjhernan3060 · « **Reply #88 on:** 02 October 2018, 11:04:40 »

Thanks! What about the gotha?

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #89 on:** 02 October 2018, 11:14:37 »

I could see the Blood Spirits using the Gotha. Its not like any of the other Clan's would use them so there probably would be many in the Brian Caches. I wonder if other Clan's would even fight for them?

Great, now I want to design a updated Gotha for the Clan's.