Author Topic: Star Trek Attack Wing (Read 11662 times)

(SMD)MadCow · « **Reply #30 on:** 17 July 2014, 11:06:10 »

Its probably because the Trek models are the same ones used in the Hero Clix version.

Weirdo · « **Reply #31 on:** 17 July 2014, 12:20:35 »

Yup. And Clix minis on the secondary market are cheap. 8)

I am Belch II · « **Reply #32 on:** 17 July 2014, 13:02:09 »

Quote from: Weirdo on 17 July 2014, 12:20:35

Yup. And Clix minis on the secondary market are cheap. 8)

Some of them are the size of the old Star Trek Micro Machine ships. How awesome would be if they came out again! That also goes for Star Wars, Babylon 5 and other miniatures.

Weirdo · « **Reply #33 on:** 17 July 2014, 13:07:53 »

Mmm...a reliable source of 1/7000 Vor'chas and 1/3800 Mirandas... {>{>

Not sure what Star Wars ones would be really useful, though if they ever cast a decent one, a MM ISD could probably be kitbashed into a 1/15000 Victory pretty easily...

Unfortunately, the casting quality on a lot of the Micro Machines was abysmal. So much bending, I'd almost consider Mongoose-made minis to be superior.

(SMD)MadCow · « **Reply #34 on:** 17 July 2014, 13:27:23 »

Quote from: I am Belch II on 17 July 2014, 13:02:09

Some of them are the size of the old Star Trek Micro Machine ships. How awesome would be if they came out again! That also goes for Star Wars, Babylon 5 and other miniatures.

Im altering a flight base to accomidate my MM Galor cruiser.

Now if the darn cat didnt chew off the Reliants nacelles all those years ago...

nerd · « **Reply #35 on:** 17 July 2014, 18:33:16 »

Quote from: mdauben on 17 July 2014, 09:38:08

I never got into the Attack Wing game becuase I've played Star Fleet Battles for years to get my Star Trek gaming needs.

Masochist. I've played it a few times, and my dad's got the edition that came out three-hole punched, so you could replace pages with ones from later rule books.

The only other time I've seen that method was for Navy tech manuals.

(SMD)MadCow · « **Reply #36 on:** 21 July 2014, 13:03:07 »

I actually played my first game this weekend and won, yay!
100 point killem all game, my force:
2nd Division Cruiser
-Dukat
-Captured Intel
-Boheeka
-Jem Hadar
-Torpedoes
-Polaron Beam
-Long Range Tachyon Scan
5th Wing Fighter
-Gelnon
-Jem Hadar
-Polaron Beam
-EMP

OPFOR:
4X Jem Fighter w/Polaron Beam

I completely forgot to use the EMP, but I lost the 5th Wing fighter in the 3rd round anyway. Dukat proceeded to clean up all 4 of the OPFOR ships with one Polaron, 2 Torpedo attacks, and finally dogfighting the last one for 4 rounds and getting it with the main gun. The Split-S was pulled off as the last maneuver to get him in the front arc.
I forgot the names of the officer upgrades, but will asd them later, and I never used the one on the cruiser or the Tachyon scan either.
Was lots of fun, hope to have more!

I am Belch II · « **Reply #37 on:** 21 July 2014, 15:05:00 »

I just don't understand all the cards. I just want to go ship on ship. More of a fleet game.

(SMD)MadCow · « **Reply #38 on:** 21 July 2014, 16:48:58 »

Quote from: I am Belch II on 21 July 2014, 15:05:00

I just don't understand all the cards. I just want to go ship on ship. More of a fleet game.

The cards are upgrades to the ship, I could not use a Polaron Beam if I didnt pay the points for the card. And its a pretty easy way to keep track of upgrades.

beachhead1985 · « **Reply #39 on:** 26 July 2014, 20:56:23 »

I've played a number of games of STAW and I generally like it.

I don't want to clutter the thread, but for those who are interested, here are my observations;

http://kilroyswall.tumblr.com/post/92970308672/observations-on-star-trek-attack-wing

I'm curious to hear what a real trek fan thinks of my take on the game.

(SMD)MadCow · « **Reply #40 on:** 03 August 2014, 21:55:28 »

So, played the Tholian Web scenario today. The event was dominated by Borg, 4 of 6 players. I went pure Dominion, the other player went mixed Fed and Romulan. I was only able to win 1 of 3 games due to the other player getting caught by the web.

Scotty · « **Reply #41 on:** 08 August 2014, 16:21:42 »

Hey Weirdo, Fantasy Flight has heard your prayers, and they have been answered. ^-^

Fixed the link.

Weirdo · « **Reply #42 on:** 08 August 2014, 16:37:01 »

I...wow.

On the one hand, I'm happy because holy goatballs, a Star Wars fleet game that looks like it might not be utter crap!

On the other hand, I'm very sad because I've but a lot of work into my current SW fleets, and I HIGHLY doubt these ships will be remotely in scale with the existing stuff that's out there.

...but I will buy a Star Destroyer. My honor demands it.

I am Belch II · « **Reply #43 on:** 08 August 2014, 21:22:42 »

Quote from: Scotty on 08 August 2014, 16:21:42

Hey Weirdo, Fantasy Flight has heard your prayers, and they have been answered. ^-^

Fixed the link.

That is some good stuff, can't wait till it come out.

Lorcan Nagle · « **Reply #44 on:** 09 August 2014, 02:42:28 »

Oh, that is sorely tempting.

worktroll · « **Reply #45 on:** 09 August 2014, 04:53:26 »

They ~~stole~~ are homaging the Leviathans dice mechanic ... ^-^ Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery.

I am Belch II · « **Reply #46 on:** 09 August 2014, 05:30:04 »

If they expand the fighter squadron line that would be great.

Lorcan Nagle · « **Reply #47 on:** 09 August 2014, 05:55:57 »

Quote from: worktroll on 09 August 2014, 04:53:26

They ~~stole~~ are homaging the Leviathans dice mechanic ... ^-^ Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery.

And the whole if a target is in two arcs, you can fire with both arc's weapons at it thing.

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #48 on:** 09 August 2014, 16:18:21 »

Quote from: Scotty on 08 August 2014, 16:21:42

Hey Weirdo, Fantasy Flight has heard your prayers, and they have been answered. ^-^

Fixed the link.

I can get behind this. I do hope they eventually do a Super Star Destroyer for this.

Weirdo · « **Reply #49 on:** 09 August 2014, 17:48:42 »

Quote from: Stormlion1 on 09 August 2014, 16:18:21

I can get behind this. I do hope they eventually do a Super Star Destroyer for this.

Apparently it will use a sliding scale, so you could easily use one of the existing SSD models out there. All you'd need are the stats.

I am Belch II · « **Reply #50 on:** 09 August 2014, 18:10:19 »

Just the issue with Star Trek ships and I'm sure with the Star Wars ships is they will not be to scale. Some would be huge and some would be so tiny, and all the same price.

YingJanshi · « **Reply #51 on:** 09 August 2014, 18:13:12 »

Quote from: Scotty on 08 August 2014, 16:21:42

Hey Weirdo, Fantasy Flight has heard your prayers, and they have been answered. ^-^

Fixed the link.

Oh....that looks cool! Hope they will expand it with more ships...

(EDIT: Could you imagine the Death Star!! :o )

Weirdo · « **Reply #52 on:** 09 August 2014, 18:45:02 »

Quote from: I am Belch II on 09 August 2014, 18:10:19

Just the issue with Star Trek ships and I'm sure with the Star Wars ships is they will not be to scale. Some would be huge and some would be so tiny, and all the same price.

I highly doubt it. The scale issues in Attack Wing stem from reusing Heroclix molds. Star Wars has no such source.

Scotty · « **Reply #53 on:** 09 August 2014, 19:17:10 »

Especially not something on that scale.

I am Belch II · « **Reply #54 on:** 09 August 2014, 19:37:30 »

Quote from: Weirdo on 09 August 2014, 18:45:02

I highly doubt it. The scale issues in Attack Wing stem from reusing Heroclix molds. Star Wars has no such source.

Wasn't there a attempt of a captial ship for Star Wars a while ago, can't remember the maker but the ships were not that great.

Lorcan Nagle · « **Reply #55 on:** 09 August 2014, 19:44:18 »

Wizards of the Coast, I think. Blind buy packs and a really crappy rules set.

Weirdo · « **Reply #56 on:** 09 August 2014, 21:52:22 »

REALLY crappy.

RebelRunner · « **Reply #57 on:** 09 August 2014, 22:12:33 »

Quote from: I am Belch II on 09 August 2014, 05:30:04

If they expand the fighter squadron line that would be great.

Agreed. Depending on the size, you might be able to use older models, but who knows. I, for one, am seriously considering this. We'll see where it goes from here...I have high hopes.

mdauben · « **Reply #58 on:** 09 August 2014, 23:46:23 »

Quote from: nerd on 17 July 2014, 18:33:16

Masochist. I've played it a few times, and my dad's got the edition that came out three-hole punched, so you could replace pages with ones from later rule books.

The only other time I've seen that method was for Navy tech manuals.

The original game was great, though. It was released as a "pocket" game with rules, game board and counters in a medium size zip lock bag. True, it bloated up later, but at the time is was the only ST game in town, and it worked really well for duels and small squadron play. There is a simpler version out now (Federation Commander), and two ports of other systems (Starmada/Klingon Armada and A Call to Arms: Bablylon 5/A Call to Arms: Star Fleet).

The main drawback for a lot of potential newer players is that it does not contain anything from the movies or subsequent series. Their licence is strictly for TOS and while they have expanded their game with new, original empires (Lyrans, Adromedans, ISC, etc.) they can't touch the Borg, Cardassians, Ferengi, or any of the newer Federation, Klingon or Romulan ships.

YingJanshi · « **Reply #59 on:** 17 August 2014, 16:24:06 »

Hm...this might make better miniatures for the game. Maybe a bit big though...