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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1410 on: 16 July 2018, 12:55:26 »
I think for the MUL, giving away stock introductory variants is enough.  Also, put up a donation link.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1411 on: 16 July 2018, 13:05:14 »
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1412 on: 16 July 2018, 13:43:50 »
  Also, put up a donation link.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1413 on: 16 July 2018, 13:46:33 »
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1414 on: 16 July 2018, 13:47:27 »
I think for the MUL, giving away stock introductory variants is enough.  Also, put up a donation link.

I'm so confused because I admittedly missed the context for your post. That being said, "huh?"

Can someone qualify this statement for me?


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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1415 on: 16 July 2018, 13:50:42 »
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1416 on: 16 July 2018, 13:55:38 »
Age is a killer. I don’t have kids around like you to keep me toung and welladjusted.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1417 on: 16 July 2018, 14:02:51 »
What's wrong with asking for people to donate so the MUL can improve?  Man, you guys just crap on every idea.

I'm so confused because I admittedly missed the context for your post. That being said, "huh?"

Can someone qualify this statement for me?

RE:  Record Sheets-
You are right . . . free sheets does not get cash flow going to CGL . . . which is IMO why we have the backlog of RS from TROs.  Honestly, with everything that is out there- Heavy Metal being old official, MML and SSW, the BA spreadsheet and all the other tools, I think releasing RS was a money loser.  Not sure releasing recordsheets outside of 'ready to play' boxes is a good idea.  I know HMP and its suite is out of date, but I still print my sheets out on that with the updated weapons files and for things that it does not cover I leave the crits/weight empty and put in notes.

IMO it might be time to admit they do not want to do RS any more, give me the raw stats so I can fill out that Juliano with Clan ERLL I have been waiting to use and in the future with TROs put in the simple report at the back where people with the programs- or filling a sheet out by hand!- can make the sheet for their play.  By all means, find someone who wants to write the latest licensed RS producing software- I would buy that to update from HMP- but I think print RS might be a dodo.

That's what I was thinking of.  The MUL hands out free record sheets for Alpha Strike.  I figured, at a minimum, having record sheets for BattleTech at an introductory level would be OK.  And if cash flow is a big thing, why not just ask for donations for the MUL?  People already fund miniature sculpts.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1418 on: 16 July 2018, 14:14:42 »
I'm so confused because I admittedly missed the context for your post. That being said, "huh?"

Can someone qualify this statement for me?

I think he Means the MUL Gives a record sheet for the STOCK/Default Variant (I.e. A Jenner JR7-D but none of the others).

Donating to the MUL gets access to the rest.

That said...sure. $5/month subscription seems fine to me.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1419 on: 16 July 2018, 14:23:32 »
Huh. Interesting thought.

As a guy that has all the Unabridged for Printing, I can see how getting all those record sheets is a pain for new folks.

Not a bad idea. I'd contribute. Interesting question would be how much does each user need to contribute to make it economically viable to do it that way?

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1420 on: 16 July 2018, 14:32:42 »
As a returning player the process of assembling a full set of record sheets has been, frankly, excruciating. I want to jump back in but honestly it's ridiculous.

I don't want to fill in sheets by hand, and HMP is sadly out of date and only just compatible with Windows 10.

As the game completely relies on record sheets, we need a readily accessible, comprehensive source of record sheets.

 

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1421 on: 16 July 2018, 14:33:07 »
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1422 on: 16 July 2018, 14:41:01 »
As a returning player the process of assembling a full set of record sheets has been, frankly, excruciating. I want to jump back in but honestly it's ridiculous.

I don't want to fill in sheets by hand, and HMP is sadly out of date and only just compatible with Windows 10.

As the game completely relies on record sheets, we need a readily accessible, comprehensive source of record sheets.

Well... there is one, or at least mostly comprehensive. The only problem is that it's an unofficial source.

There are also a whole bunch of unabridged PDF record sheet volumes available from catalyst or drive thru games, however, covering most of what's out there. 
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1423 on: 16 July 2018, 15:01:10 »
As a returning player the process of assembling a full set of record sheets has been, frankly, excruciating. I want to jump back in but honestly it's ridiculous.

I don't want to fill in sheets by hand, and HMP is sadly out of date and only just compatible with Windows 10.

As the game completely relies on record sheets, we need a readily accessible, comprehensive source of record sheets.

Agreed. Total Warfare needs something like the MUL: a one-stop shop for recordsheets. Sadly, paying a developer to build such a system is not a small or inexpensive task. MegaMekLab is about the best there is at the moment, but the printing support is...iffy. If it works with your printer/drivers then it is great, but that may not be the case. I don't blame the MML team for that at all. Printers are consistently some of the worst things I've had to deal with in my own life as a developer.

However, in my personal opinion, CGL doesn't need to make printed record sheet products anymore. PDF-only for any and all record sheets is just fine with me.

Oh yeah, and can we get RS3150 NTNU sometime this year? Those units might actually matter more with the timeline moving forward, and it would be great to have record sheets so we can use them.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1424 on: 16 July 2018, 15:02:38 »
RS: 3150 NTNU would definitely get my dollar, amendment 2nded.

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1425 on: 16 July 2018, 15:47:03 »
Yeah, I'm switching to MML for the most part, but it's not as user friendly as HMP used to be. I miss HMP's mech selection interface within the program and the different ways to filter by bv/weight/tech etc.

Honestly, kickstart a new mech design software package and sell me files of record sheets, like HeroLab does with files for each game. Expecting people to do tons of complicated maths to build or modify a new unit is just not realistic in this day and age, and the inaccessibility will be a bigger barrier to new players than the nostalgiafest of reusing old cover art will be.

At minimum, a product that produces stock record sheets and will allow me to enter a pilot name and adjust the cost based on gunnery/piloting would be a good new player product.


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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1426 on: 16 July 2018, 16:07:41 »
Yeah, I'm switching to MML for the most part, but it's not as user friendly as HMP used to be. I miss HMP's mech selection interface within the program and the different ways to filter by bv/weight/tech etc.

I still use HMP, someone released a patch bundle that had the new weapons loaded so you did not have to put them in by hand- equipment and armor type were still not included, and so I have to put them in the clear crit spaces by hand as well as writing down some details on the sheet.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1427 on: 16 July 2018, 20:31:59 »
Just a minor tidbit from the front page I thought one or two of you might be interested in.

https://bg.battletech.com/news/first-look-miniatures-from-upcoming-boxed-sets/
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1428 on: 16 July 2018, 20:47:00 »
I'm so glad to see they will make it in time for GenCon!

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1429 on: 16 July 2018, 20:47:42 »
I'd never pay for access to the MUL Website, but as I've said from its inception, I'd pay for my own copy of its database.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1430 on: 16 July 2018, 20:53:25 »
Just a minor tidbit from the front page I thought one or two of you might be interested in.

https://bg.battletech.com/news/first-look-miniatures-from-upcoming-boxed-sets/
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1431 on: 16 July 2018, 21:05:15 »
Well, that's just mean.  Two new and different Bill Keith stories with one EXCLUSIVE to each box set.  That's the "Shut Up and Take My Money" hook I go for!

I'd hoped to get some preview text from one or both stories into tonight's post, and will still try to get some before their release to whet your appetite a little more.

Thanks to Moonsword for the assist on posting and relaying the link!
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1432 on: 16 July 2018, 21:21:04 »
I need those box sets.  They look amazing.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1433 on: 16 July 2018, 21:43:37 »
I’m interested to see the rulebook in the GoAC box. It’s vastly cut down from the ‘07/11/13 version

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1434 on: 16 July 2018, 22:46:36 »
I’m interested to see the rulebook in the GoAC box. It’s vastly cut down from the ‘07/11/13 version

Looks roughly the same to me.

I'm happy to see these! The minis look great.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1435 on: 16 July 2018, 23:11:42 »
Looks roughly the same to me.

48 pages vs 80. We’re back down to our 4th ed weight

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« Reply #1436 on: 16 July 2018, 23:13:36 »
48 pages vs 80. We’re back down to our 4th ed weight

Ah, I didn't catch that. I was just eyeballing.
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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1437 on: 16 July 2018, 23:18:41 »
I’m guessing all the advanced scenarios introing TW level gear, infantry, and vehicles have been cut. I assume the construction rules remain intact but who knows

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1438 on: 16 July 2018, 23:23:32 »
Those box sets are things of beauty indeed. Cannot wait to get a hold of these!

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Re: New and Upcoming Releases Volume XII: Baker's Dozen
« Reply #1439 on: 17 July 2018, 06:44:03 »
Even more excited now.

Any chance of a photo of the Commando and Locust?

 

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