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« Reply #630 on: 07 September 2014, 00:15:50 »
Well, my job's gotten a whole lot harder lately.  Principal told me 1) not to assign reading because kids probably won't do it, and if they do they probably won't comprehend it (and why are we using these textbooks again?) and 2) not to lecture.  How in the hell do you teach world history without assigning reading or lecturing?
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« Reply #631 on: 07 September 2014, 01:08:16 »
And this is why the State of Arkansas ranks at or near the bottom education in the USA. Your competition being Mississippi, Louisiana and Alabama. I feel sorry for you AW. I really do.
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Re: AFFS High Command, Suns Transcendent!
« Reply #632 on: 07 September 2014, 01:09:56 »
Well, my job's gotten a whole lot harder lately.  Principal told me 1) not to assign reading because kids probably won't do it, and if they do they probably won't comprehend it (and why are we using these textbooks again?) and 2) not to lecture.  How in the hell do you teach world history without assigning reading or lecturing?

Tell him he has three options: Reading, lectures, long-distance school-funded field trips, and tell-all interviews with the local newspaper. Each day must include at least two of those options.
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« Reply #633 on: 07 September 2014, 06:56:05 »
Tell him he has three options: Reading, lectures, long-distance school-funded field trips, and tell-all interviews with the local newspaper. Each day must include at least two of those options.
Alternatively, tell him to put in writing.  Then fire a copy to the board of education and a newspaper or two.

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« Reply #634 on: 07 September 2014, 12:17:00 »
I mean, I get what they're trying to do.  They want things more project-based, get the kids engaged, don't have them just sitting there listening to the teacher talk.  But that's of only limited use when you're teach about Paleolithic humanity.  I'm pretty sure they won't fund and would frown on a staged bison hunt with atlatls, or making our own flint arrowheads.  lol

If it was a science class projects would be more common.  If it was math or even English, I could give practice problems and have them learn by doing.  But history is basically storytelling, and they can't learn unless someone is telling the stories.
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« Reply #635 on: 07 September 2014, 15:27:24 »
That does suck, AW.

Really, the stories part of history would get kids involved.

Although a staged bison hunt would get the kids engaged. If you're ever up as far north as me, there is the Jeffers Petorglyphs, where they do demonstrate how to use an atlatl.
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« Reply #636 on: 07 September 2014, 15:28:50 »
When I saw Nerd had posted I was worried he was going to share a story about nearly providing naval "gunfire" support from an SSBN!
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« Reply #637 on: 07 September 2014, 15:49:41 »
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« Reply #638 on: 07 September 2014, 20:03:15 »
When I saw Nerd had posted I was worried he was going to share a story about nearly providing naval "gunfire" support from an SSBN!
That was test FRIGATE BIRD from Operation Dominic.  ^-^

And really, nobody has good plans for NGFS these days. If the US Navy was serious, they would have put the 8"/55 Mk 71 Major Caliber Lightweight Gun system into production back in the 1970's.
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« Reply #639 on: 08 September 2014, 19:51:35 »
That was test FRIGATE BIRD from Operation Dominic.  ^-^

And really, nobody has good plans for NGFS these days. If the US Navy was serious, they would have put the 8"/55 Mk 71 Major Caliber Lightweight Gun system into production back in the 1970's.
Wow, outside of my old man I didn't think anyone knew about that 8" program.

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« Reply #640 on: 08 September 2014, 23:09:29 »
Well, I resigned today.  Back to substituting for a while, see if I can find a job in a district that isn't quite so overeager to jump at the latest and prettiest-sounding new ideas in the field.  I teach the way I know works.
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« Reply #641 on: 09 September 2014, 02:01:32 »
Sorry to hear that, AW. If the Admistrator doesn't want his charges, the students, to learn and you do, a line has to be drwan somewhere and a stand has to be made. Not open for discussion due to Rule #4, but has Arkansas gone the Common Core route?
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« Reply #642 on: 09 September 2014, 09:56:22 »
Moving that way, though it's really only implemented in math and English right now.  The rest of us are supposed to be emphasizing reading and writing to assist English, but social studies isn't yet operating directly from the Common Core standards.
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« Reply #643 on: 09 September 2014, 17:16:06 »

Well, I resigned today.  Back to substituting for a while, see if I can find a job in a district that isn't quite so overeager to jump at the latest and prettiest-sounding new ideas in the field.  I teach the way I know works.

That sucks AW


Wow, outside of my old man I didn't think anyone knew about that 8" program.


I want to see the use of shared artillery with the 155mm (6"-6.1") for ship's guns as it seems crazy to have the artillery being developed in parallel for naval and land use even if there are a lot of differences to contend with


This may be a problem to pick the brains of a friendly RN Weapons Systems Engineer about regarding what the real problem(s) are
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« Reply #644 on: 09 September 2014, 18:23:05 »

I want to see the use of shared artillery with the 155mm (6"-6.1") for ship's guns as it seems crazy to have the artillery being developed in parallel for naval and land use even if there are a lot of differences to contend with


This may be a problem to pick the brains of a friendly RN Weapons Systems Engineer about regarding what the real problem(s) are
Among other issues, it's a difference in role. Naval guns are mostly Dual Purpose for both AA and surface targets. While you shouldn't expect to use one at all. While army gun/howitzers are pretty much single purpose (surface only). The new BAE 6.1" Advanced Gun System is a single purpose system, lacking even a modicum of a Armor-Piercing type shell.

Actually, the Italians have developed a way for their 76mm compact to work as both a tradtional mount and as a CIWS type system.
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« Reply #645 on: 09 September 2014, 18:39:28 »
The new BAE 6.1" Advanced Gun System is a single purpose system, lacking even a modicum of a Armor-Piercing type shell.

No alternate munitions? Don't they know how much fun they're missing out on? :'(
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« Reply #646 on: 09 September 2014, 20:24:29 »
AW, I'm sorry to hear about your decision.  Good luck in finding a place for what you want to do.


As to the Naval Surface Fire Support discussion, there's a whole lot I don't know about how the system is coming together.  The problem I think stems from a mindset that prevents development of single purpose platforms.  As a big destroyer, having two MSRI capable long range turrets is nice, the 80 cell VLS gives you plenty of anti-ship and deep land attack capability.  Frankly, the best platform for anti-small boat swarm is a system of helicopters working with ships and fixed wing aircraft.
 
As a planner, and an artilleryman, I know that artillery battalions kill things so a ship with two guns that function as two batteries isn't quite enough.  A battalion can break a counterattack as it starts but not having that mass of fires increases risk.  Given the battlespace involved in a landing, it is hard to put two ships in place that can mutually support one another in providing fires to forces ashore.  For me, a four gun ship is closer to correct and having a number of those ships equal to Marine Regiments isn't a bad call.  However, that requires investment in a single purpose platform which isn't in vogue.

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« Reply #647 on: 09 September 2014, 20:49:55 »
No alternate munitions? Don't they know how much fun they're missing out on? :'(
Trust me, I know!

If they upgunned the LCS to having a 76mm over the existing 57mm popgun, I'd be putting in for a billet with one of their reserve units.
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« Reply #648 on: 09 September 2014, 21:47:25 »
A shallows-capable ship with a decent support gun, small-infantry capacity, and the ammo types to support said infantry through a variety of situations...the things you could do with that... [drool]
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« Reply #649 on: 09 September 2014, 23:17:03 »
A shallows-capable ship with a decent support gun, small-infantry capacity, and the ammo types to support said infantry through a variety of situations...the things you could do with that... [drool]
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« Reply #650 on: 09 September 2014, 23:21:03 »
There is that, yes.

I suppose there's very real practical and engineering reasons why a vessel can't be made small and durable at the same time. A lack of damage control crews comes to mind, for starters.
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« Reply #651 on: 10 September 2014, 01:42:46 »
I think the question of how to armour a ship goes back to Dreadnought days and the most recent concept I know of for warship armour is "all or nothing" - the problem is that to armour heavily enough to achieve "all" against a decent sized anti-ship missile is just about impossible. For this reason, warships are no longer significantly armoured but have active defences instead (CIWS, decoys etc) and you almost hope that the missile or bomb will fail to detonate against such weak protection if you are a tincan and the missile was designed to cripple a Nimitz-class. To what extent would you partially armour your close support warship? 155mm shell splinters? Even Hamas can fire an anti-ship missile from the shore into an Israeli corvette (which the corvette survived by being too small as above). It seems from NATO decisions to upscale artillery since WW2 that a 57mm or 76mm gun isn't enough and even the 5"/4.5" may not give enough power/shell which may not be compensated for by increased rate
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« Reply #652 on: 19 September 2014, 20:08:14 »
Gentlemen,

It has been nine days, how are you all doing?  Well I hope.

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« Reply #653 on: 19 September 2014, 20:13:26 »
Indeed. Went on a couple day trip to Wisconsin Dells (it's a 2.5 hour drive for us). It's the off-season so it was slow, but was perfect for us to take the little one on her first trip. Her first time sleeping in the bed which was a lot of fun.

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« Reply #654 on: 20 September 2014, 10:57:49 »
I just got back from the DragonDaze convention - I didn't get to play any games (I wasn't in company that wanted to do that) but I had a great time pottering around, shopping, and watching games. It was great to be able to chat with the guys playing BattleTech there, who said that there'd been a lot of people wandering up who remembered BattleTech and had played it before.

I suspect tomorrow will involve me putting off the housework as long as possible and spending a fair amount of time playing the AtB campaign in MekHQ.

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« Reply #655 on: 20 September 2014, 20:43:40 »
The wife and I left our boys with my parents for the morning and went to The National Gallery of Art for the Degas and Cassatt exhibit.  I actually learned some art stuff...fancy that.  Following that I had a superb steak and egg brunch with the wife in celebration of the nearly eight anniversary engagement: same restaurant and even booth.  Nice to get out of the house for a bit and being this close to the District of Columbia is so worth while.

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« Reply #656 on: 21 September 2014, 09:30:02 »
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« Reply #657 on: 21 September 2014, 19:44:14 »
I've just spent a week in Rome and a place called Torre Del Lago in Tuscany hence less activity here (although I did have enough internet access to upload a lot of photos as I went!) - here's a link!


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« Reply #658 on: 22 September 2014, 10:29:25 »
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« Reply #659 on: 24 September 2014, 23:08:18 »
Well, I resigned today.  Back to substituting for a while, see if I can find a job in a district that isn't quite so overeager to jump at the latest and prettiest-sounding new ideas in the field.  I teach the way I know works.

I am sorry to hear of your troubles. And honestly I agree. People have taught history for centuries, and it is not the same as math or science. It should not be taught as such. Nor should it be just English lite. It is a story, and it takes listening to understand its lessons. Unfortunately, the perceived wizards of teaching  from their marble buildings will not realize until its too late that they are wrong about how it should be taught.

 

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