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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #180 on: 21 December 2015, 13:14:20 »
All Hollander III variants (BZK-D1, BZK-D2, and BZK-D3) are listed as being Standard. However, due to the fact each has Laser Reflective armor, they should be listed as Advanced.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #181 on: 21 December 2015, 20:39:38 »
Thanks mordel. All have been the units you noted have been double checked and updated.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #182 on: 22 December 2015, 11:23:34 »
The Battle Value for the Templar III TLR2-OB appears to be incorrectly listed as 1,918. My calculations (as well as those from MML) come out to 1,919. It's only a 1 point discrepancy, so it may have just been a rounding thing My calculations are as follows:

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Defensive Battle Rating
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  Armor (Standard):                                       263 x 2.5 x 1                657.500             
  Internal Structure (Endo Steel w/ Light Fusion Engine): 130 x 1.5 x 1 x 0.75  (+)    146.250  =   803.750
  Gyro (Heavy-Duty):                                      85 x 0.5              (+)     85.000  =   888.750
  Defensive Movement Factor:                              +3                    (*)       1.30  = 1,155.375
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Final Defensive Battle Rating:                                                                    1,155.375

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Offensive Battle Rating
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  Offensive Equipment:                                                                                     
       Chain Whip                                                                        5.175             
       ER PPC                                                                   (+)    229.000  =   234.175
       ER Small Laser                                                           (+)      8.500  =   242.675
       Hatchet                                                                  (+)     25.500  =   268.175
       Small X-Pulse Laser                                                      (+)     21.000  =   289.175
       Small X-Pulse Laser                                                      (+)     21.000  =   310.175
       Small X-Pulse Laser                                                      (+)     21.000  =   331.175
       Small X-Pulse Laser                                                      (+)     10.500  =   341.675
       Small X-Pulse Laser                                                      (+)     21.000  =   362.675
       Small X-Pulse Laser                                                      (+)     21.000  =   383.675
  Total 'Mech Tonnage:                                                          (+)     85.000  =   468.675
  Speed Factor:                                           8 (Run) + 2 (Jump)    (*)      1.630  =   763.940
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Final Offensive Battle Rating:                                                                      763.940

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BattleMech Battle Value
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  Defensive Battle Rating:                                                           1,155.375             
  Offensive Battle Rating:                                                      (+)    763.940  = 1,919.315
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Final BattleMech Battle Value:                                                                        1,919

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #183 on: 24 December 2015, 11:43:33 »
The Battle Value for the Jenner JR7-K (Grace) appears to be incorrectly listed as 737. My calculations (as well as those from MML) come out to 702. My calculations are as follows:

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Defensive Battle Rating
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  Armor (Ferro-Fibrous (Prototype)):                            80 x 2.5 x 1             200.000             
  Internal Structure (Endo Steel (Prototype) w/ Fusion Engine): 58 x 1.5 x 1 x 1  (+)     87.000  =   287.000
  Gyro (Standard):                                              35 x 0.5          (+)     17.500  =   304.500
  Explosive Ammunition:                                         3 Critical Spaces (-)     45.000  =   259.500
  Defensive Movement Factor:                                    +4                (*)       1.40  =   363.300
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Final Defensive Battle Rating:                                                                        363.300

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Offensive Battle Rating
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  Offensive Equipment:                                                                                       
       Medium Laser                                                                       46.000             
       Medium Laser                                                               (+)     46.000  =    92.000
       Narc Missile Beacon                                                        (+)     30.000  =   122.000
  Total 'Mech Tonnage:                                                            (+)     35.000  =   157.000
  Speed Factor:                                                 11 (Run) + 3 (Jump)(*)      2.160  =   339.120
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Final Offensive Battle Rating:                                                                        339.120

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BattleMech Battle Value
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  Defensive Battle Rating:                                                               363.300             
  Offensive Battle Rating:                                                        (+)    339.120  =   702.420
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Final BattleMech Battle Value:                                                                            702

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #184 on: 24 December 2015, 23:24:31 »
Unit: Behemoth II Heavy Tank (Standard)
Link: http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/6447/behemoth-ii-heavy-tank-standard

Sources:
  TRO3145 Capellan Confederation p.24-25 (unit info)
  Alpha Strike Companion p.107 (weapon table), 137 (role), 139 (conversion)

Issue: the Alpha-Strike card for the Behemoth II  appears to be missing an "IF" value per the conversion information in the ASC.
. [8x Thunderbolt_5 = 2.34/4.0/4.0 damage; IF# = Long Range damage, or 4.0]

Suggested changes:
. Add "IF4" to the listed specials
. Adjust "TUR" special to include "IF4"
. Adjust "PV" to 50
. . PV calculations: 26 OFV + 24.25 DFV + 0 GFB
. Adjust Role to "Missile Boat" (over 50% of the damage at Long Range is dealt by the missile systems)


fixed downthread.
« Last Edit: 22 February 2016, 13:03:51 by GoldBishop »
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #185 on: 31 December 2015, 13:59:25 »
The Battle Value for the Gurkha GUR-8G appears to be incorrectly listed as 1,229 (which matches SSW). My calculations (as well as those from MML) come out to 1,241. The discrepancy appears to be a result of SSW not factoring in TSM for the BV of the retractable blade. My calculations are as follows:

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Defensive Battle Rating
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  Armor (Standard):                             119 x 2.5 x 1              297.500             
  Internal Structure (Endo Steel w/ XL Engine): 58 x 1.5 x 1 x 0.5  (+)     43.500  =   341.000
  Gyro (Standard):                              35 x 0.5            (+)     17.500  =   358.500
  Defensive Movement Factor:                    +4                  (*)       1.40  =   501.900
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Final Defensive Battle Rating:                                                          501.900

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Offensive Battle Rating
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  Offensive Equipment:                                                                         
       ER Medium Laser                                                      62.000             
       ER Medium Laser                                              (+)     62.000  =   124.000
       ER Medium Laser                                              (+)     62.000  =   186.000
       ER Small Laser                                               (+)      8.500  =   194.500
       Retractable Blade                                            (+)     13.800  =   208.300
       Snub-Nose PPC                                                (+)    165.000  =   373.300
  Total 'Mech Tonnage:                                              (+)     52.500  =   425.800
  Speed Factor:                                 12 (Run) + 0 (Jump) (*)      1.890  =   804.762
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Final Offensive Battle Rating:                                                          804.762

===============================================================================================
BattleMech Battle Value
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  Defensive Battle Rating:                                                 501.900             
  Offensive Battle Rating:                                          (+)    804.762  = 1,306.662
  Cockpit (Small):                                                  (*)       0.95  = 1,241.329
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Final BattleMech Battle Value:                                                            1,241

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #186 on: 31 December 2015, 16:25:42 »
The Battle Value for the Chimera CMA-2K appears to be incorrectly listed as 1,507 (which matches SSW). My calculations (as well as those from MML) come out to 1,528. The discrepancy appears to be a result of SSW not factoring in TSM for the BV of the sword. My calculations are as follows:

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Defensive Battle Rating
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  Armor (Standard):                             120 x 2.5 x 1              300.000             
  Internal Structure (Endo Steel w/ XL Engine): 67 x 1.5 x 1 x 0.5  (+)     50.250  =   350.250
  Gyro (XL):                                    40 x 0.5            (+)     20.000  =   370.250
  Defensive Movement Factor:                    +4                  (*)       1.40  =   518.350
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Final Defensive Battle Rating:                                                          518.350

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Offensive Battle Rating
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  Offensive Equipment:                                                                         
       Medium Laser                                                         46.000             
       Medium Laser                                                 (+)     46.000  =    92.000
       Medium Laser                                                 (+)     46.000  =   138.000
       Medium Laser                                                 (+)     23.000  =   161.000
       Small Laser                                                  (+)      4.500  =   165.500
       Small Pulse Laser                                            (+)      6.000  =   171.500
       Snub-Nose PPC                                                (+)    165.000  =   336.500
       Sword                                                        (+)     17.250  =   353.750
  Total 'Mech Tonnage:                                              (+)     60.000  =   413.750
  Speed Factor:                                 12 (Run) + 4 (Jump) (*)      2.440  = 1,009.550
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Final Offensive Battle Rating:                                                        1,009.550

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BattleMech Battle Value
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  Defensive Battle Rating:                                                 518.350             
  Offensive Battle Rating:                                          (+)  1,009.550  = 1,527.900
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Final BattleMech Battle Value:                                                            1,528

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #187 on: 03 January 2016, 04:31:25 »
I noticed something a few minutes ago on the MUL. I went to the Unit page, and searched for "lament" using the Unit Search on the left side of the screen.

Surprisingly, nothing turned up, with the following URL generated.

http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Filter?Name=lament&HasBV=true&HasBV=false&MinTons=&MaxTons=&MinBV=&MaxBV=&MinIntro=&MaxIntro=&MinCost=&MaxCost=&HasRole=&HasBFAbility=&MinPV=&MaxPV=&Role=112&BookAuto=&FactionAuto=

However, when I searched using the search bar in the upper right, 5 Laments showed up with no problem and the following URL was generated

http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Filter?Name=Lament

I *think* what's going on, is that its the Alpha Strike Filter that's messing things up. Even after telling the MUL to Clear the filters, the default filter for AS seems to be Ambusher. That's the following part of the first URL posted.

&Role=112

I'm pretty sure this shouldn't be the default behavior of the Unit search as it seems rather..counterproductive.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #188 on: 03 January 2016, 07:37:16 »
The data is currently being migrated. We'll have to see if it is still behaving that way when we are done.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #189 on: 03 January 2016, 13:03:19 »
Any idea when we might see faction availability for the various units from Record Sheets 3145: New Tech New Upgrades?
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #190 on: 03 January 2016, 14:46:08 »
I don't know if your migration is done... if so I'd suggest you look at the advanced search options.

One cannot leave the role unspecified, and "None" doesn't mean the same thing as unspecified.

Example: one cannot search for any unit without respect to role for the presence of a given special.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #191 on: 03 January 2016, 22:55:57 »
The Alpha Strike stats for the Mad Cat Mk IV family are off. As per Alpha Strike Companion pg 98, the Structure Value for a 75 ton Clan 'Mech with an XXL engine should be three; the MUL Alpha Strike Card gives it as two
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #192 on: 05 January 2016, 21:54:12 »
Is there a way to add a custom-generated alpha strike card to the force builder?

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #193 on: 07 January 2016, 20:33:15 »
The Battle Value for the No-Dachi NDA-3S appears to be incorrectly listed as 1,679. My calculations (as well as those from MML) come out to 1,706. I'm guessing it's related to the damage adjustment of the Mace due to TSM. My calculations are as follows:

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Defensive Battle Rating
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  Armor (Standard):                             216 x 2.5 x 1               540.000             
  Internal Structure (Endo Steel w/ XL Engine): 107 x 1.5 x 1 x 0.5  (+)     80.250  =   620.250
  Gyro (Standard):                              70 x 0.5             (+)     35.000  =   655.250
  Defensive Equipment:                                                                         
       Guardian ECM Suite                                            (+)     61.000  =   716.250
  Defensive Movement Factor:                    +3                   (*)       1.30  =   931.125
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Final Defensive Battle Rating:                                                           931.125

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Offensive Battle Rating
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  Offensive Equipment:                                                                         
       ER Medium Laser                                                       62.000             
       ER Medium Laser                                               (+)     62.000  =   124.000
       Mace                                                          (+)     36.000  =   160.000
       Medium Pulse Laser                                            (+)     48.000  =   208.000
       Medium Pulse Laser                                            (+)     24.000  =   232.000
       Medium Pulse Laser                                            (+)     48.000  =   280.000
       Medium VSP Laser                                              (+)     56.000  =   336.000
       Medium VSP Laser                                              (+)     56.000  =   392.000
       Small Laser                                                   (+)      4.500  =   396.500
       Small Laser                                                   (+)      4.500  =   401.000
       Small Laser                                                   (+)      4.500  =   405.500
       Small Pulse Laser                                             (+)      6.000  =   411.500
  Total 'Mech Tonnage:                                               (+)    105.000  =   516.500
  Speed Factor:                                 9 (Run) + 0 (Jump)   (*)      1.500  =   774.750
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Final Offensive Battle Rating:                                                           774.750

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BattleMech Battle Value
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  Defensive Battle Rating:                                                  931.125             
  Offensive Battle Rating:                                           (+)    774.750  = 1,705.875
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Final BattleMech Battle Value:                                                             1,706

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #194 on: 10 January 2016, 08:42:04 »
The Battle Value for the Mad Cat (Timber Wolf) Z appears to be incorrectly listed as 3,003 (which matches SSW). My calculations (as well as those from MML) come out to 2,923. The discrepancy appears to be related to the weapon BV modification due to the heat efficiency calculation. My calculations are as follows:

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Defensive Battle Rating
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  Armor (Ferro-Fibrous):                        230 x 2.5 x 1                575.000             
  Internal Structure (Endo Steel w/ XL Engine): 114 x 1.5 x 1 x 0.75  (+)    128.250  =   703.250
  Gyro (Standard):                              75 x 0.5              (+)     37.500  =   740.750
  Defensive Equipment:                                                                           
       Nova CEWS                                                      (+)     68.000  =   808.750
  Defensive Movement Factor:                    +3                    (*)       1.30  = 1,051.375
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Final Defensive Battle Rating:                                                          1,051.375

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Offensive Battle Rating
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  Offensive Equipment:                                                                           
       ER Large Laser                                                        248.000             
       ER Large Laser                                                 (+)    248.000  =   496.000
       ER Medium Pulse Laser                                          (+)     58.500  =   554.500
       ER Medium Pulse Laser                                          (+)     58.500  =   613.000
       Improved ATM 9                                                 (+)    231.000  =   844.000
       Improved ATM 9                                                 (+)    231.000  = 1,075.000
       Improved ATM 9 (Ammo 7)                                        (+)     54.000  = 1,129.000
       Improved ATM 9 (Ammo 7)                                        (+)     54.000  = 1,183.000
       Improved ATM 9 (Ammo 7)                                        (+)     54.000  = 1,237.000
       Improved ATM 9 (Ammo 7)                                        (+)     54.000  = 1,291.000
  Total 'Mech Tonnage:                                                (+)     75.000  = 1,366.000
  Speed Factor:                                 8 (Run) + 0 (Jump)    (*)      1.370  = 1,871.420
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Final Offensive Battle Rating:                                                          1,871.420

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BattleMech Battle Value
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  Defensive Battle Rating:                                                 1,051.375             
  Offensive Battle Rating:                                            (+)  1,871.420  = 2,922.795
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Final BattleMech Battle Value:                                                              2,923

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #195 on: 11 January 2016, 00:07:50 »
Question: the Sortek Assault Craft (standard) has SRCH property; the Sortek Assault Craft (Interdictor) doesn't.

Two possibilities:
- the Interdictor also deserves the SRCH property;
- the Interdictor can only be used during daylight hours.

I'm guessing the first ;)

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #196 on: 15 January 2016, 09:16:08 »
Some re-engineered laser errata
The Ebony MEB-13 should have the REL special ability
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/6943/ebony-meb-13
The Spider SDR-10K should have the REL special ability
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/6934/spider-sdr-10k
The Emperor EMP-8L should have the REL special ability
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/6851/emperor-emp-8l
The Sagittaire SGT -14D should have the REL special ability
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/6835/sagittaire-sgt-14d
The Sagittari SGT-4R should have the REL special ability
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/6817/sagittarii-sgt-4r

The Night Stalker NSR-K7 should lose the REL ability  because according to the conversion rules from AS companion you have to cause 1 unit of damage in the medium range bracket (may be we need to errata it to short range or small re-engineered lasers will never give the REL ability)
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/6720/night-stalker-nsr-k7

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #197 on: 20 January 2016, 00:58:27 »
Any suggestions? I can't get any Alpha strike force to print. I've turned off my pop up blocker. I've updated adobe. I've tried chrome and edge. I'm out of ideas.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #198 on: 20 January 2016, 06:23:36 »
The PDF printing tool needs to be rewritten after the move to the new host. No ETA at this time.

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« Reply #199 on: 20 January 2016, 14:06:31 »
Any suggestions? I can't get any Alpha strike force to print. I've turned off my pop up blocker. I've updated adobe. I've tried chrome and edge. I'm out of ideas.

In the meantime, expanding the default card, or customizing the card to include changing skill (and skill based PV increases/decreases) and then copying the image into an image editing software of your choice to save as -> insert into word document -> arrange -> print works, but is incredibly cumbersome and irritating.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #200 on: 28 January 2016, 15:49:01 »
The cost of the Warhammer 6R (http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/3488) appears to be off by one C-Bill.

The TechManual's formula: (Structural Cost + Weapon/Equipment Cost) * (Omnimech Cost) * (1 + [Total Tonnage / 100])
Applied to the WHM-6R: 3,543,166.667 * 1 * 1.7 = 6,023,383.3339, which rounds down to 6,023,383.

The value for the Structural Cost + Weapon/Equipment Cost is a bit lengthy, but the only item without a nicely rounded cost is the 280 Fusion Engine, which has a cost of 1,306,666.667 (rounded for brevity per the errata). My theory is that the cost was rounded up before plugging it into the Final Unit Cost Formula, which results in a final value of 6,023,383.9, which rounds up to 6,023,384.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #201 on: 01 February 2016, 13:26:58 »
Seems like the Print/PDF function for Alpha Strike cards is timing out.

Also, can we have an API or perhaps a CSV download for Alpha Strike stats and point costs - no need for calculation for non-4 pilot skills, that's easy enough at the client end.
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« Reply #202 on: 01 February 2016, 13:30:46 »
The PDF printing tool needs to be rewritten after the move to the new host. No ETA at this time.

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« Reply #203 on: 01 February 2016, 13:31:33 »
The PDF printing tool needs to be rewritten after the move to the new host. No ETA at this time.

Thanks for repeating that for me, cavingjan :)
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #204 on: 01 February 2016, 14:52:50 »
No problem. For the other suggestion, it is above my pay grade. I think the answer will stay no but TPTB can see it and confirm or change their answer.

Edit: I should have included this in the prior message. For a work around, save the cards as either jpgs or pngs. You can then use your OS print feature to print several on a page. That printing could be paper or if you want that pdf, a free pdf printer that are readily available.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #205 on: 07 February 2016, 05:39:51 »

I found a mention of the 'HH-1 compact mobile shipyard' in Wars of Reaving (page 35).

Could this unit please be added to the MUL, with more details if possible?
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #206 on: 12 February 2016, 22:43:58 »
The Battle Value for the Jenner JR7-K (Grace) appears to be incorrectly listed as 737. My calculations (as well as those from MML) come out to 702. My calculations are as follows:
BV per the RS listed would be 706 with 81 points of armor though that put it 0.5 tons overweight. 80 points of armor brings the weight back into line though I couldn't find any errata after a quick search. With 80 points of armor, the BV would be 702.

The Battle Value for the Gurkha GUR-8G appears to be incorrectly listed as 1,229 (which matches SSW). My calculations (as well as those from MML) come out to 1,241. The discrepancy appears to be a result of SSW not factoring in TSM for the BV of the retractable blade. My calculations are as follows:
Correct and MUL updated.
The Battle Value for the No-Dachi NDA-3S appears to be incorrectly listed as 1,679. My calculations (as well as those from MML) come out to 1,706. I'm guessing it's related to the damage adjustment of the Mace due to TSM. My calculations are as follows:
Correct and MUL updated.

The Battle Value for the Chimera CMA-2K appears to be incorrectly listed as 1,507 (which matches SSW). My calculations (as well as those from MML) come out to 1,528. The discrepancy appears to be a result of SSW not factoring in TSM for the BV of the sword. My calculations are as follows:
Correct and MUL updated.

The Battle Value for the Mad Cat (Timber Wolf) Z appears to be incorrectly listed as 3,003 (which matches SSW). My calculations (as well as those from MML) come out to 2,923. The discrepancy appears to be related to the weapon BV modification due to the heat efficiency calculation. My calculations are as follows:
Correct and MUL updated.

All relevant units have had their BVs updated after the re-engineered laser BV adjustments.

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« Reply #207 on: 13 February 2016, 03:40:20 »
No problem. For the other suggestion, it is above my pay grade. I think the answer will stay no but TPTB can see it and confirm or change their answer.

Edit: I should have included this in the prior message. For a work around, save the cards as either jpgs or pngs. You can then use your OS print feature to print several on a page. That printing could be paper or if you want that pdf, a free pdf printer that are readily available.

Thx for the hint. Print function still isnt working. I thought it was a problem with my computer ;D

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #208 on: 21 February 2016, 11:16:28 »
* VERSION: MUL Online
* LOCATION: Mad Cat Mk II (Standard)
* THE ERROR: MUL Online says that the Intro date of Mad Cat Mk.II (Standard) is 3066. However, Technical Readout: 3067 (Corrected Fourth Printing) with in-universe date of 3067 clearly says that "the Mad Cat Mk II has now been in production for more than half a decade" (p.132, the right column). So if "more than half a decade" is approximately six years, that means that the Intro date is 3067-6=3061.
* THE CORRECTION: The Intro date of Mad Cat Mk.II should be changed to 3061.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #209 on: 21 February 2016, 12:10:31 »
Thanks. Changed to 3062 to keep the Civil War era, and TR 3067 in universe date is Dec 3067.  So 5 years would be Dec 3062, and the more than that would be however many months they started production earlier than Dec in 3062.  The TR also has them starting the new project "at the beginning of the decade" and to full-scale production in less than 15 months.  If they started late 3060, that could put them in to 3062 as well.  And I'd rather not change the era if I don't have to.
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