Author Topic: (Answered) Turret facing in the artillery Targeting phase  (Read 1047 times)

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This question is somewhat related to https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=81851.0

Under 'Rotating the firing arcs' p105 TW:
Vehicles: Turret-mounted weapons in vehicles can be positioned to fire through any hexside, per the Torso/Turret Twist rules, page 37. Treat turret arcs as the forward arc, except that they are defined by the hexside at which the turret is currently pointing, not the hexside toward which the vehicle is facing.

Given that turret facing changes occur when declaring a weapon attack in the 'Weapon Attack phase' turret mounted artillery cannot be turned/twisted in the 'Targeting phase' (p147 TO: AR).

Considering the number of canon vehicles that have artillery mounted in turrets it would seem odd if the turrets can't be turned before firing (other than direct fire) but can still turn their turrets and have them flip back in the end phase pointlessly. Clearly there won't be any mention in TW of being able to turn turrets in a phase that doesn't exist in TW, or torso twist in TO:AR, so this seems an artifact of having the rules separated in the way they are.

In the context of the changes to torso twisting to use TAG:

1. Is it the current intention to strictly prohibit the ability of artillery to turn turrets before firing artillery weapons?
2. If turret turning before artillery weapon declaration is possible, should there be appropriate wording added in TO?
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Re: (Research) Turret facing in the artillery Targeting phase
« Reply #1 on: 01 June 2024, 10:18:25 »
They are largely treated as a stationary vehicular unit for purposes of stacking and making or receiving attacks, but as a building for tracking damage. They can change turret direction during any phase where targeting is possible, but only once per turn.

If the turret direction is changed during the Targeting phase, no further changes can be made that turn. However, if the turret was already pointed the correct way prior to this turn, you can still change its direction during the Weapon Attack Phase if desired.

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Re: (Answered) Turret facing in the artillery Targeting phase
« Reply #2 on: 03 June 2024, 04:58:51 »
This question has nothing at all to do with gun emplacements. It's specifically to do with turrets mounted on vehicles.

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(Answered) Turret facing in the artillery Targeting phase
« Reply #3 on: 29 July 2024, 20:43:18 »
These answers are specific to vehicle turrets.

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Can vehicle mounted turrets change facing in the targeting phase in order to change artillery firing arcs?
Yes, to any hexside but only once a turn.

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If vehicle turrets can change facing in the targeting phase, are they limited to one hexside change in that phase?
Yes, to any hexside but only once a turn.

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Are vehicle turrets limited to one hexside facing change in the weapon attack phase?
No, Vehicles with turrets may align the turrets to any hexside.

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Do vehicle turrets automatically revert to a neutral forward facing in the end phase?
Yes

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Are vehicle turret facing changes in the targeting and weapon attack phases mutually exclusive?
They are not mutually exclusive; you can change in either phase but once per turn but to any hexside.
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