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Title: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bedwyr on 08 February 2019, 09:22:49
Alright, continue your discussion here. I may be updating the OP with material from Cubby et al.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 08 February 2019, 09:24:31
you went off the board for the thread title and did not disappoint.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: RoundTop on 08 February 2019, 09:57:36
you went off the board for the thread title and did not disappoint.

Wil you take what's in the box, or spin the wheel of fish?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 08 February 2019, 10:03:08
Wil you take what's in the box, or spin the wheel of fish?

"...FFFFFLOUNDAAAAAAH!!!"
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 08 February 2019, 10:16:40
Wil you take what's in the box, or spin the wheel of fish?

Well, as I'm allergic to fish...I guess I'll take the box
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Ruger on 08 February 2019, 10:21:01
 
Well, as I'm allergic to fish...I guess I'll take the box

Either way, you get a head...  >:D

Ruger
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 08 February 2019, 10:26:27
Soooooo . . .

3 weeks until House Arano book comes out.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Jaim Magnus on 08 February 2019, 10:35:42
Well, as I'm allergic to fish...I guess I'll take the box

Sadly, the box also contains fish.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Pat Payne on 08 February 2019, 12:04:12
You say you've got an Atlas in there? It's only a police box...

...

How is this possible? It's bigger on the inside?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Daryk on 08 February 2019, 17:11:32
3 weeks for Arano, eh?  Hopefully I'll win one of those $25 DriveThru certificates on Myth Weavers next week.  That should also get me caught up on all the Touring the Stars I've been missing...
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 08 February 2019, 17:38:12
Soooooo . . .

3 weeks until House Arano book comes out.
Wooooooh! Cant wait!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Orwell84 on 08 February 2019, 18:11:05
Ha ha, love the title! Somebody needs to ask that at the next GenCon: "No I saw with you with the box, what was in the box?!" >:D

Soooooo . . .

3 weeks until House Arano book comes out.

I thought that was due on April 1st?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Empyrus on 08 February 2019, 18:53:06
I thought that was due on April 1st?
March 1 is the projected release date. But i don't think it is a firm date.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Doom on 08 February 2019, 18:58:39
The Coming Releases page has "Release Date: To Be Announced" for that. https://bg.battletech.com/books/upcoming-releases/#pdf-
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 08 February 2019, 19:06:04
https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=62270.msg1462397#msg1462397

The forum announcement said March 1. We’ll see
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Thatguybil on 08 February 2019, 21:06:58
That will be a must buy.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 08 February 2019, 21:55:54
Alot new interesting things.

Operational Turning Points - Fronc Reaches
Turning Points: Vega (3039)
Turning Points: Tokasha
Touring the Stars: Gulf Breeze
Touring the Stars: Rigil Kentares
House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Empyrus on 08 February 2019, 22:25:54
Still waiting for that one series... whose name i've already forgotten. Duh.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: pheonixstorm on 09 February 2019, 01:09:23
Something Milestones I think it was... Sound close?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Empyrus on 09 February 2019, 01:10:25
Something Milestones I think it was... Sound close?
Yes but can't bring the whole name to my mind still.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: mikecj on 09 February 2019, 06:35:42
I'm waiting for Blaine's new book.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Orwell84 on 09 February 2019, 07:29:04
I'm waiting for Blaine's new book.

If you mean Forever Faithful, the ebook will be available in just two weeks.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sharpnel on 09 February 2019, 07:45:06
I'm waiting on POD. I abhor reading off a tablet/screen.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: mikecj on 09 February 2019, 07:45:20
Thanks, I'd forgotten the title.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 09 February 2019, 18:20:23
Anniversary apparel for BattleTech and Shadowrun in all sizes is back in stock exclusively at store.catalystgamelabs.com (http://store.catalystgamelabs.com). And the store got a bit of a facelift, along with some back-end improvements.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 10 February 2019, 10:41:48
I'm waiting on POD. I abhor reading off a tablet/screen.
Diddo
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 10 February 2019, 22:37:46
Continuing the celebration of 35 years of Battletech, we’re thrilled to announce that two Print on Demand novels are available now that represent both the earliest days of Battletech fiction and the latest fiction to come out.

(https://i.ibb.co/XLPsdf0/Decision.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

Decision at Thunder Rift

https://tinyurl.com/DecisionPOD (https://tinyurl.com/DecisionPOD) (Print on Demand)

First, going back to the early days of Battletech, we present “Decision at Thunder Rift” by William H. Keith

THE FIRST NOVEL IN THE EPIC SAGA OF FUTURE WAR…

Thirty meters tall, seventy tons of quick-striding death and destruction, the armored war machines called BattleMechs are the front-line forces of the crumbling star empire locked in the horror of the endless Succession Wars. Their pilots are MechWarriors, 31st-Century knights riding armored machines powerful enough to take a city apart.
Grayson Death Carlyle had been training to be a MechWarrior since he was 10 years old, but his graduation came sooner than expected. With his friends and family dead and his father’s regiment destroyed, young Grayson finds himself stranded on a world turned hostile. Now he must learn the hardest lesson of all: it takes more than a BattleMech to make a MechWarrior…

But to claim that title, all Grayson has to do is go out and capture one of those giant killing machines…if it doesn’t kill him first.

(https://i.ibb.co/XJmKrvy/51791308-10156083866683148-2757851165650583552-n.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

A Splinter of Hope / The Anvil Omnibus

Next, at the other end of the spectrum, we have the Omnibus of “The Anvil” by Blaine Lee Pardoe and “A Splinter of Hope” by Philip Lee!

https://tinyurl.com/SplinterAnvilPOD (https://tinyurl.com/SplinterAnvilPOD) (Print on Demand)

https://tinyurl.com/SplinterAnvilDigital (https://tinyurl.com/SplinterAnvilDigital) (Digital)

VICTORY AT ANY COST…

Jump into your BattleMech cockpit, fire up your fusion engine, and charge into the fray with two all-new BattleTech novellas from Philip A. Lee and BattleTech veteran Blaine Lee Pardoe.

A Splinter of Hope: Violent expansion of the Capellan Confederation and the Draconis Combine has cost recently crowned First Prince Julian Davion both his mentor and countless Federated Suns worlds. To rally his people, he funnels the fires of justice into an ambitious yet risky campaign to retake a vital system: New Syrtis, the occupied capital of the Capellan March. However, the Capellan people have fought dearly for their prize and will do anything in their power to hold onto it. Will Julian’s gamble preserve the future of the Federated Suns, or is the invasion doomed before it even begins?

The Anvil: Khan Malvina Hazen of Clan Jade Falcon is known throughout the Inner Sphere as a merciless, bloodthirsty tyrant. The next target for her scorched-earth, take-no-prisoners tactics is the Lyran Commonwealth world of Coventry: a persistent stain on the Jade Falcons’ history. But not all Falcons follow Malvina’s lead. Ordered to take Coventry at any cost, Galaxy Commander Stephanie Chistu wishes to see her Clan victorious, but no victory is worth the Jade Falcons losing their very soul. To stand up to tyranny and find an honorable path forward for her Clan, she must balance the razor’s edge between duty and honor—or die trying.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 10 February 2019, 23:24:24
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/57484961.jpg)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: mbear on 11 February 2019, 07:51:01
Alot new interesting things.

Operational Turning Points - Fronc Reaches
Turning Points: Vega (3039)
Turning Points: Tokasha
Touring the Stars: Gulf Breeze
Touring the Stars: Rigil Kentares
House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition

All of these. I must have all of these.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: pheonixstorm on 11 February 2019, 09:57:25
Anniversary apparel for BattleTech and Shadowrun in all sizes is back in stock exclusively at store.catalystgamelabs.com (http://store.catalystgamelabs.com). And the store got a bit of a facelift, along with some back-end improvements.

Why is there no category for this? I had to do a search to find the shirt/hoodie.

I love that the new Warhammer is on it!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 11 February 2019, 11:28:08
Is there a single list of what novels are out in POD right now?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 11 February 2019, 11:36:34
Warrior Trilogy
Decision at Thunder Rift
A Splinter of Hope / The Anvil
soon: Forever Faithful

not sure if PoD, but in print:
Embers of War
Betrayal of Ideals
Legacy
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 11 February 2019, 14:22:37
I haven't heard much about PoD version of Forever Faithful, Mr. Pardoe mentions it was supposedly be available at the same time as when it's release. I've seen signs of it or would have reserved it.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 11 February 2019, 14:28:36
there was a bit of lag with the warrior trilogy but not the new batch. hopefully that's good news for Forever Faithful
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 11 February 2019, 14:28:49
I haven't heard much about PoD version of Forever Faithful, Mr. Pardoe mentions it was supposedly be available at the same time as when it's release. I've seen signs of it or would have reserved it.

as per the original announcement:

https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=62270.msg1477275#msg1477275

Quote
"Forever Faithful" will be available on February 23rd (2/23) both as an ebook and Print on Demand (PoD).
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 11 February 2019, 14:35:47
as per the original announcement:

https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=62270.msg1477275#msg1477275
I understand that, the still not option for Pod. At least not on Amazon.
Unless it's going be someone else?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 11 February 2019, 14:44:47
I understand that, the still not option for Pod. At least not on Amazon.
Unless it's going be someone else?

Presumably the POD option won't be there till it goes on-sale. 
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 11 February 2019, 16:17:36
Presumably the POD option won't be there till it goes on-sale.

Correct, my understanding is that POD isn't available as a pre-order, so it won't appear until Feb. 23. Not sure on exact time.

not sure if PoD, but in print:
Embers of War
Betrayal of Ideals
Legacy

Also:

The Nellus Academy Incident

All four books appear to be currently available in Print-on-Demand via Amazon.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Ruger on 11 February 2019, 17:31:06

The Nellus Academy Incident

All four books appear to be currently available in Print-on-Demand via Amazon.

Is Legacy a PoD or just straight print release? I was able to order the other three from my FLGS, but he can't do PoD orders.

Ruger
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Feenix74 on 11 February 2019, 18:03:38
Cubby - also any update if and when Legacy might be available as an eNovel?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 11 February 2019, 21:01:49
Is Legacy a PoD or just straight print release? I was able to order the other three from my FLGS, but he can't do PoD orders.

Not sure? I think it’s specifically PoD...but I’m pretty sure the others are too. Not sure what the issue is, I’ll ask around.

Cubby - also any update if and when Legacy might be available as an eNovel?

Right this very instant! https://books2read.com/BattleTechLegacy (https://books2read.com/BattleTechLegacy)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Feenix74 on 11 February 2019, 21:29:12
Thanks Cubby  :thumbsup:

Will it be available from the CGL store? I would like try to assist CGL by giving them as much of my money as possible. If not then I can slum it through booktopia or Amazon.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Tyler Jorgensson on 12 February 2019, 02:55:42
Is it wrong that all these PoD and PDF releases have me forgetting about IlClan.... OMG look Ghost Bear PDF's and Splinter of Hope/Anvil Omnibus.... I mean what was I saying again?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 12 February 2019, 11:04:25
Thanks Cubby  :thumbsup:

Will it be available from the CGL store? I would like try to assist CGL by giving them as much of my money as possible. If not then I can slum it through booktopia or Amazon.

It's a nice thought, but for now you're better off going through those third-party vendors. It's not in the CGL store and I have no timeline for when it might be.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cache on 12 February 2019, 17:10:24
Quote
Thirty meters tall, seventy tons of quick-striding death and destruction, the armored war machines called BattleMechs are the front line forces...

Happy to see the book, but 'Mechs are 5 levels tall now?  ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 12 February 2019, 17:32:52
Lol, 30 feet or 10 meters . . .
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Feenix74 on 12 February 2019, 18:09:57
It's a nice thought, but for now you're better off going through those third-party vendors. It's not in the CGL store and I have no timeline for when it might be.

No problems, thanks for the "heads up" Cubby  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Korzon77 on 13 February 2019, 04:24:08
Soooooo . . .

3 weeks until House Arano book comes out.

So, question, did the PTB give any hint on if we're going to see the dropship statted out in the book?  As I recall, that was really the only aspects of the setting that might have issues with the current rules.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 13 February 2019, 08:01:26
Zero indication
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Elmoth on 13 February 2019, 09:37:18
I guess that the whole mercenary command will be a footnote, so I doubt they will have its dropship discussed in depth.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Terrace on 13 February 2019, 10:50:00
I guess that the whole mercenary command will be a footnote, so I doubt they will have its dropship discussed in depth.

That's true. Kamea used us more like a special forces scalpel, hitting pinpoint targets while her army did the big battles. We didn't do all that much fighting compared to her army.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 13 February 2019, 11:03:23
Some of these PDF products do give RS, I have not bought a Spotlight yet (keep forgetting when I do buy a few PDFs) so someone else will have to answer if they have RS.  I expect we will get a list of House Arano's personal units and any 'national' forces she gets, maybe on relations with the other Houses.  But I plan to get it the day it drops.

Different question, the BT Legends epub releases have all had new cover art using recent classic art.  With the Warrior trilogy, where is that art from since I do not recognize it?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 13 February 2019, 11:09:05
i think that art specifically is new
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Dak on 13 February 2019, 12:38:57
Different question, the BT Legends epub releases have all had new cover art using recent classic art.  With the Warrior trilogy, where is that art from since I do not recognize it?

Yes, those are brand new art for the 30th anniversary release in Print on Demand. (35 for BT, 30 for the Warrior Trilogy.)

Dak
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Xotl on 13 February 2019, 13:15:23
Not sure where best to put this, but I thought I'd just pop in and let people know that 25 Years of Art and Fiction is the DriveThruFiction deal of the day: 40% off.

https://www.drivethrufiction.com/product/97622/BattleTech-25-Years-of-Art-and-Fiction
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: CVB on 13 February 2019, 13:33:05
Not sure where best to put this, but I thought I'd just pop in and let people know that 25 Years of Art and Fiction is the DriveThruFiction deal of the day: 40% off.

https://www.drivethrufiction.com/product/97622/BattleTech-25-Years-of-Art-and-Fiction

Thanks for the tip. And it's even 80% off compared to the MSRP.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 13 February 2019, 13:33:35
Not sure where best to put this, but I thought I'd just pop in and let people know that 25 Years of Art and Fiction is the DriveThruFiction deal of the day: 40% off.

https://www.drivethrufiction.com/product/97622/BattleTech-25-Years-of-Art-and-Fiction

Thanks very much - I just shared it out on BT and CGL social media.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 13 February 2019, 13:34:26
Thanks for the tip. And it's even 80% off compared to the MSRP.

and at that price it's basically free compared to what you have to pay for a hard copy
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Greatclub on 13 February 2019, 16:26:59
Is that the one HG killed a few years back?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 13 February 2019, 16:32:18
the original version with that amazing whammy piece on the front and some unseen art on the inside was pulled. i think it only was released digitally in that form. the printed version with the hammerhands box set piece had safe unseens like the battlemaster on the interior. unsure how big the run on that one was but i don't think it was pulled from distribution at any point.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: klarg1 on 13 February 2019, 17:31:49
the original version with that amazing whammy piece on the front and some unseen art on the inside was pulled. i think it only was released digitally in that form. the printed version with the hammerhands box set piece had safe unseens like the battlemaster on the interior. unsure how big the run on that one was but i don't think it was pulled from distribution at any point.

I believe the original digital version preceded the kerfuffle over license issues, and the final print version was altered to avoid problems. The available digital version was also updated to match.

I don't think the print version had any problems after that, aside from selling out.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 13 February 2019, 17:42:46
yeah, there was a premature announcement about the unseen being back in the middle of all of that and we were having a great time until HG did its thing.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Weirdo on 13 February 2019, 17:45:54
I danced. It wasn't pretty.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 14 February 2019, 01:58:45
the original version with that amazing whammy piece on the front and some unseen art on the inside was pulled. i think it only was released digitally in that form. the printed version with the hammerhands box set piece had safe unseens like the battlemaster on the interior. unsure how big the run on that one was but i don't think it was pulled from distribution at any point.

Other way round on the covers, the Hammerhands cover was always for 25 years of art and fiction, and the Warhammer cover was planned for the box set, to tie in with the short story in the box about the Black Widow Company.  When CGL were made aware of the sealed judgement from the HG/FASA case, the Warhammer cover was pulled and they substituted the Hammerhands one.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Spaceman on 17 February 2019, 21:05:00
Well this is new to me:

https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/collections/featured-products-homepage/products/nais-athletics-t-shirt (https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/collections/featured-products-homepage/products/nais-athletics-t-shirt)

I wonder if there are any more shirts like this on the store?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bedwyr on 17 February 2019, 21:27:06
Huh. I'm intrigued.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 17 February 2019, 21:41:20
Leftover con shirts maybe?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 17 February 2019, 22:19:10
Leftover con shirts maybe?

Yep. 2016 if im correct.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Jellico on 17 February 2019, 23:59:45
Athletic?

Battletech Boxing?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_boxing
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bosefius on 18 February 2019, 01:29:22
Yep. 2016 if im correct.

Thought it was 2017, same year the classic Shadow Hawk miniatures were released.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 18 February 2019, 08:47:21
Thought it was 2017, same year the classic Shadow Hawk miniatures were released.

Could be, thought it was 2016 as I didn;t go to GenCon in2017, but I did go in 2016 and I got my Shirt then. I think 2017 was a Liao Themed Shirt.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: RoundTop on 18 February 2019, 10:04:26
Can confirm it was 2016, as I have it. Then 2017 was something else (don't have that one), 2018 was sun zhang mech warrior academy I think.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 18 February 2019, 10:09:49
How about some leftover aluminum dice  O:-)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 19 February 2019, 10:29:38
Record Sheets: Succession Wars and BattleMech Manual Reprint Now Available!


Played through the recently-released BattleTech Beginner Box and BattleTech: A Game of Armored Combat boxed set? Ready for the next step?

Expand your battlefield options with Technical Readout: Succession Wars (print (https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-technical-readout-succession-wars-book) / PDF (https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-technical-readout-succession-wars) / combo (https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-technical-readout-succession-wars-book-pdf-combo)), which contains full details on dozens of new 'Mechs fully compatible with those in the new boxed sets. You'll also want the brand-new, PDF-only Record Sheets: Succession Wars (https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-record-sheets-succession-wars), which compiles the essential record sheets for all 'Mechs in that Technical Readout. It's the perfect companion to the box set record sheets, which are also now available as a free download (https://bg.battletech.com/download/RS%20AGoAC%20Epub%201-26-19a.pdf?x64300).

In addition, the new printing of the BattleMech Manual is now available in print (https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-battlemech-manual-book), PDF (https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-battlemech-manual), and a combo bundle (https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-battlemech-manual-book-pdf-combo). This essential guide to combat operations with BattleMechs incorporates all errata from the earlier volume, and features a stunning all-new cover of the ever-popular Marauder as well as the BattleTech 35th Anniversary logo.

(https://i.ibb.co/PGPBNJG/E-CAT35-RS220-Battle-Tech-Record-Sheets-Succession-Wars-1024x1024.jpg)   (https://i.ibb.co/x5XPQ7r/E-CAT35010-Battle-Mech-Manual-09cb938c-dee8-45d6-8e00-383ecb076f32-480x.jpg)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 19 February 2019, 10:31:56
Awesome news!!!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Fat Guy on 19 February 2019, 10:42:52
Hey, we can do record sheets again!

Hopefully we can see progress on the backlog.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 19 February 2019, 10:47:32
oh dang, I wasn't expecting a full-fledged RS book. it's almost 300 pages of variants  :o
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Weirdo on 19 February 2019, 10:52:51
Very cool!

Any new sheets that folks who have older RS pdfs won't have?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 19 February 2019, 11:09:56
Any new sheets that folks who have older RS pdfs won't have?

Updated logos on the sheets, otherwise, no. From the product description:

Quote
"Note: This is a compilation volume. The entries in this PDF are reprinted--albeit with the current BattleTech logo--from Record Sheets: 3039 Unabridged, Record Sheets: 3050 Upgrade Unabridged-Clan & Star League, Record Sheets: 3058 Unabridged, and Record Sheets: 3075 Unabridged. Players who own those Record Sheets will find the same units presented in Record Sheets: Succession Wars."
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 19 February 2019, 11:11:25
the FLE-16 is in there. i think this is its first appearance.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Fat Guy on 19 February 2019, 11:20:25
the FLE-16 is in there. i think this is its first appearance.


You would be correct.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Weirdo on 19 February 2019, 11:25:25
Even aside from that Flea, this product is a good first Record Sheet book for people who are starting with the Beginner and AGoAC boxes. I hope there's a prominent note in there saying that every mech marked Introductory is 100% compatible with the rules in the AGoAC box, and only Total War or BattleMech Manual are needed to play the rest.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Fat Guy on 19 February 2019, 11:26:40
Wolverine 6D, Thunderbolt 5D, Zeus 6A, and Atlas 7A are brand new as well!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Weirdo on 19 February 2019, 11:29:24
A new variant of the Classic 55-ton Trio found nowhere else? Well, there's your sales goals right there. :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 19 February 2019, 11:41:04
What?  Wolverine 6D? . . .

(http://charliegower.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/10/23/more.jpg)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 19 February 2019, 11:51:03
I like the new art work they slipped into the free Record Sheets for the box set. 
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 19 February 2019, 11:53:04
Thunderbolt 5D . . . hmm, 3025 version of the -5Sd?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 19 February 2019, 11:53:33
These new classic variants only found in the Succession War Record Sheet book?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 19 February 2019, 11:55:53
Wolverine 6D, Thunderbolt 5D, Zeus 6A, and Atlas 7A are brand new as well!

you have a better eye than me. good catches!

Edit: spoiler-free impressions

Wolverine - i had never considered that. i may continue not to
Thunderbolt - hilarious, especially if your opponent doesn't look at record sheets
Zeus - a little disjointed but fun
Atlas - ? ? ? ?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Fat Guy on 19 February 2019, 13:15:40
Thunderbolt 5D . . . hmm, 3025 version of the -5Sd?


Nope.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Fat Guy on 19 February 2019, 13:16:12
These new classic variants only found in the Succession War Record Sheet book?


You are correct sir.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Fat Guy on 19 February 2019, 13:22:27
Edit: spoiler-free impressions

Wolverine - i had never considered that. i may continue not to
Thunderbolt - hilarious, especially if your opponent doesn't look at record sheets
Zeus - a little disjointed but fun
Atlas - ? ? ? ?


If that Zeus had one more ton of ammo (easily done by dropping the rear medium) I'd like it a lot.

That Atlas I wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley!  :o

The other two are nothing special (barring the surprise factor on the T-Bolt).
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cache on 19 February 2019, 13:28:40
Hey, we can do record sheets again!
Doesn't look like it to me. Product page states all sheets are available in previous products. Only change is the new logo. That can be done without creating new sheets.

(edit: I don't have the PDF yet, so I happily reserve the right to be wrong.)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Fat Guy on 19 February 2019, 13:41:24
On second go through, I found a Javelin 10A.


Interesting...
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 19 February 2019, 13:54:37
On second go through, I found a Javelin 10A.


Interesting...

i immediately thought of at least four possibilities and it ended up being none of them. the ammo is a problem.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Fat Guy on 19 February 2019, 13:56:12
the ammo is a problem.

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Weirdo on 19 February 2019, 14:01:41
This RS product is really cool. At this point, the only thing I think new players could use is an expansion to the AGoAC rulebook to allow them to use the standard-tech stuff in that RS file, to whet their appetites before going full TW or BMM.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 19 February 2019, 14:05:19
Doesn't look like it to me. Product page states all sheets are available in previous products. Only change is the new logo. That can be done without creating new sheets.

(edit: I don't have the PDF yet, so I happily reserve the right to be wrong.)

I was doing a side-by-side comparison with a sheet printed to Adobe PDF and these look like they were made in MML with the 'cost' field disabled. The ones made by hand in the past would have some slight variations on the size of the boxes at times but all of these match up perfectly. also the ammo is printed in the weapon and equipment box in the same place that MML puts it

so maybe we'll see more?

This RS product is really cool. At this point, the only thing I think new players could use is an expansion to the AGoAC rulebook to allow them to use the standard-tech stuff in that RS file, to whet their appetites before going full TW or BMM.

sort of akin to a citytech 2nd ed stepup between 4th ed and BTC:RoW.

A Star League campaign book would slot nicely in that regard, I think
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 19 February 2019, 16:51:21
This RS product is really cool. At this point, the only thing I think new players could use is an expansion to the AGoAC rulebook to allow them to use the standard-tech stuff in that RS file, to whet their appetites before going full TW or BMM.

Speaking only for myself: comes a point when I'd rather just sell them a copy of BMM. That's why I recommended putting RS and the BMM DTF format out at the same time.

Getting too incremental only creates more one more product/download/whatever, in a line that's honestly too cluttered with them.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Weirdo on 19 February 2019, 17:02:33
Good point. At some point you just have to remove the training wheels, and let them stomp on Urbies on their own.

Does it have a note pointing them at BMM and TW?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 19 February 2019, 17:22:18
So sell them BMM and a star league campaign book. Everyone wins

Hint: you should make a star league campaign book
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Weirdo on 19 February 2019, 17:26:07
I love the idea of a Star League campaign book for myself, but why for new players? The universe primer and the TRO and Record Sheets being marketed to them are geared toward the Succession Wars. I think I'd lean more toward something like Sword and Dragon, minus the prototype tech and set in the Third or Fourth War.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 19 February 2019, 17:42:10
Better synergy with the units in TRO Succession Wars to base it in the 2700s
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Brigoon on 19 February 2019, 17:42:32
Wolverine 6D, Thunderbolt 5D, Zeus 6A, and Atlas 7A are brand new as well!

Yeah who ever made these must have been like "Lets see what happens if I do this".
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Scotty on 19 February 2019, 18:06:05
Better synergy with the units in TRO Succession Wars to base it in the 2700s

Except for the ones that came out after that,  like the Enforcer, Centurion, Wolfhound, Raven, Hatchetman, and Merlin to name things off the top of my head.

The units in TRO 2750 have been fully recommend to appear (in downgraded variants) pretty conclusively outside of a few oddballs.  It's called "Succession Wars" for a reason.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 19 February 2019, 18:20:10
It’s called Succession Wars because it was the least ill-fitting name for 500 years of unit history. We already have a Succession Wars campaign in Sword and Dragon that uses a lot of the post 2780 units. Retool that to fit better with the current line. It would be cheaper.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Crimson Dawn on 19 February 2019, 18:23:16
My base assumption is that if there is a new battlemaster variant it probably does not have jump jets.  If it did I would have the perfect assault mech for my new mercenary company (right now making due with a victor).
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Scotty on 19 February 2019, 18:32:18
It’s called Succession Wars because it was the least ill-fitting name for 500 years of unit history. We already have a Succession Wars campaign in Sword and Dragon that uses a lot of the post 2780 units. Retool that to fit better with the current line. It would be cheaper.

Which means that the Star League is somehow even less fitting, and surely won't result in "better synergy".

I recently had to go through and figure out what units were available for use in 2729 and 2730 for a game.  It's not a lot; less than half of what's in TRO Succession Wars.  Any time after that, you have to ignore Royals and any non-Introductory tech variants because those largely weren't included.  Just avoid the hassle and stick to the 3020s.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Liam's Ghost on 19 February 2019, 19:11:45
Any complaints I might have had about this record sheet book are drowned out by the fact that literally all I wanted was an official record sheet for the new Flea. I have that, so it's physically impossible for me to be unhappy with it.

Also, some of the new variants they snuck in are hilarious. Sneaky Javelin indeed.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sharpnel on 19 February 2019, 22:06:24
I love the new Zeus, though it needs one more ton of ammo.
The new Atlas is different and with all of those SRMs I would hate to be on the other end of them.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 19 February 2019, 22:13:28
Does it have a note pointing them at BMM and TW?

No, I wish it did - didn't manage to get that in. But I'm working on some other ways to illustrate the progression, as an aid to new players.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Fat Guy on 19 February 2019, 22:17:14
Yeah who ever made these must have been like "Lets see what happens if I do this".


I'm pretty sure whoever did the T-Bolt had several shots of Jeger and asked himself "What hasn't been done on this chassis yet?"
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 20 February 2019, 01:51:44
Which means that the Star League is somehow even less fitting, and surely won't result in "better synergy".

I recently had to go through and figure out what units were available for use in 2729 and 2730 for a game.  It's not a lot; less than half of what's in TRO Succession Wars.  Any time after that, you have to ignore Royals and any non-Introductory tech variants because those largely weren't included.  Just avoid the hassle and stick to the 3020s.

good thing they just released a big ole binder of 300 variants

If you ran a series of missions during Operation Chieftain (2772), this is what is available to the various militaries per the MUL that is in RS: Succession Wars. That's variants for 71 of 93 chassis presented in the TRO for those of you keeping score at home. I'd call that synergy adequate. It also gives a range of tech in low doses to acclimate new players to life outside the box set, which you do not get in the 3020s.

Code: [Select]
Assassin 21
Atlas D
Awesome 8Q/8R
Banshee 3E/3M
BattleAxe 7K/7NC
BattleMaster 1G
Black Knight 6
Blackjack 1X/1
Bombardier 12D
Catapult C1/A1/C4/K2
Chameleon 4B
Charger 1A1
Cicada 2A
Clint 2R/3T
Commando 1D/2D
Crab 27
Crockett 5003-1
Cyclops 10-Z
Dervish 6M
Dragon 1C/1N
Emperor 5A/6A
Excalibur B1/B2
Falcon 4N
Firebee 2E
Firefly 3A
Firestarter A/K/H
Flashman 8K
Flea 4/14/15
Galahad 1D/2D
Griffin 2N
Guillotine 3N
Hammerhands 3D/4D
Highlander 732
Hoplite 4A/4C/4B
Hunchaback 4G
Hussar 200-D
Icarus II 1S
Javelin 10N
King Crab 010
Kintaro 19
Kyudo 02
Lancelot 01/05
Locust 1V/1S/1M
Lynx 9Q
Mackie 7A/8B/9H
Mercury 99
Mongoose 66
Night Hawk 2Q
Nightstar 9J
Orion K
Ostscout 8J
Panther 8Z/9R
Phoenix 3R/4R
Pillager 1N/3Z
Rampage 2G/4G/5G
Sentinel 1S/3L
Shadow Hawk 2H
Shootist 8A
Spider 5V
Stalker 3F/3H
Talon 5V/5W
Talos 1B
Thorn F/N
Thug 11E
Thunder Hawk 7X
Thunderbolt 5S
UrbanMech R60
Victor 9A/9A1/9B
Whitworth 1S/1/0
Wolverine 6R/6K
Ymir 2B/2E/3A

Follow up with a campaign book to accompany TRO: Clan invasion set around Bulldog (depending on how the average intro date is affected from '60 and '67).

As an educator, I don't agree with the firehose format. You don't teach anything like that effectively, especially when you presume a not insignificant portion of players have to teach themselves because there aren't any play groups in the neighborhood. If campaign books "don't sell," maybe the more alarming implications are 1) there aren't a sufficient number of players being attracted to the game to support new player products (distressing) and/or 2) they are marketed poorly to / inadequately designed for new players (self-inflicted). Or are scenario-type books just not popular with anyone in any system and not even worth making?


Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Greatclub on 20 February 2019, 03:05:26
Javelin: I can see myself using this in some missions. Not if the goal is main damage though.
Wolverine: Not my first choice of introtech wolverines, but not something I'd dislike getting on a random roll.
Thunderbolt: PFFFT... HAAHAAHAA
Zeus: That's one way of saying stay away
Atlas: It would be so easy to optimize further, but I'd actually put it at about par with the 7-K.
Banshee: Wonders why they're using art for the 3S
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: MoffMalthus on 20 February 2019, 07:24:21
I love the idea of a Star League campaign book for myself, but why for new players? The universe primer and the TRO and Record Sheets being marketed to them are geared toward the Succession Wars. I think I'd lean more toward something like Sword and Dragon, minus the prototype tech and set in the Third or Fourth War.

I'd love to see some more campaign books set in the 3rd/4th succession wars as well.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Moonsword on 20 February 2019, 07:37:40
Okay, folks, I realize there are differences of opinion in BattleTech, but keep the exchanges focused on ideas and opinions, without any personal commentary on each other.  That's against the site rules and will earn you the moderation staff's attention in a manner you will not enjoy.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 20 February 2019, 12:45:30
As an unabashed and unrepentant Thud modder, what's the warload?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 20 February 2019, 12:52:36
As an unabashed and unrepentant Thud modder, what's the warload?

AC/20, LRM-10
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: mbear on 21 February 2019, 07:26:28
In my copy of RS: Succession Wars several of the designs (Devastator) has a Role heading underneath the Rules Level heading in the 'Mech Data box. That's the Alpha Strike role, correct?

It's not on every record sheet though, which is weird.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: nckestrel on 21 February 2019, 07:36:09
That's the Alpha Strike role, correct?

I know it's not your question, but the roles aren't "Alpha Strike roles".  They existed in BT long before Alpha Strike (in Box Sets, First Strike! and others) and are in Campaign Operations.

EDIT: As for the actual question, yes, that's what it is.  I suspect they're still implementing the feature and have some kinks and/or additional data to sort out.  They recently asked me for a MUL list of roles, as in this week.  So it was probably decided it wasn't worth holding up the release for.  (I haven't seen RS: SW yet, so there's a lot of assumptions there based on what little I do know).
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 21 February 2019, 08:04:04
The roles matter in standard rules for lance construction in CampOps as well as alpha strike
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 21 February 2019, 08:59:14
And I for one thank the makers. Otherwise I had to always go back to checking the MUL for a unit's ROLE
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Karasu on 21 February 2019, 10:52:19
Looking at the new RS, I'm just curious.  When did the Cicada's Medium Lasers migrate from the arms to the torsos?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Hammer on 21 February 2019, 11:04:02
Looking at the new RS, I'm just curious.  When did the Cicada's Medium Lasers migrate from the arms to the torsos?

Even the original 3025 they where torso mounted, and the follow on TRO's have had them their.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 21 February 2019, 11:12:42
yeah, it's always been that way. weirdly, the 3C has the machine guns in the legs.

this art never helped the perception
(https://cfw.sarna.net/wiki/images/thumb/c/c9/CicadaArmTwist.jpg/497px-m26cyqfymzrogqozbfojudc43yk9cxk.jpg?timestamp=20110129232349)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: faithless on 21 February 2019, 12:20:08
After reading everyones comments I had to pick up the Succession Wars RS PDF. I like the additions.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Crimson Dawn on 21 February 2019, 15:03:12
yeah, it's always been that way. weirdly, the 3C has the machine guns in the legs.

this art never helped the perception
(https://cfw.sarna.net/wiki/images/thumb/c/c9/CicadaArmTwist.jpg/497px-m26cyqfymzrogqozbfojudc43yk9cxk.jpg?timestamp=20110129232349)

I think the same thing happens with the Orion too though to a lesser extent.  They put the SRM4 where?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Fat Guy on 21 February 2019, 15:10:43
Then there's the whole Banshee 5S debacle. Instead of changing the sheet to match the art, they eventually changed the art.   ???
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 21 February 2019, 15:24:15
Art is always superseded by stats.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Empyrus on 21 February 2019, 15:26:31
Art is always superseded by stats.
Occasionally it would be cooler to change the stats to match art though.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Hammer on 21 February 2019, 15:57:54
..... were made in MML....
Yep they were. We also switched the logo out and and replaced the era wording with the era icon.

RE - Roles
In my copy of RS: Succession Wars several of the designs (Devastator) has a Role heading underneath the Rules Level heading in the 'Mech Data box. That's the Alpha Strike role, correct?

It's not on every record sheet though, which is weird.

EDIT: As for the actual question, yes, that's what it is.  I suspect they're still implementing the feature and have some kinks and/or additional data to sort out.  They recently asked me for a MUL list of roles, as in this week.  So it was probably decided it wasn't worth holding up the release for.  (I haven't seen RS: SW yet, so there's a lot of assumptions there based on what little I do know).

The roles matter in standard rules for lance construction in CampOps as well as alpha strike

We added the role from the MUL for the book.  If the role is missing it's because at the time we implemented Roles in MegaMekLab last year the MUL didn't have them listed  We got the latest list of the MUL data as nckestrel to late to impact this book.

We also think having the roles on the sheet is a great way to support Campaigns Ops, and for players to help build their forces.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 21 February 2019, 16:07:35
Occasionally it would be cooler to change the stats to match art though.

It's a lot more work though. And people don't like it when we mess with their existing stuff.  :-[
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 21 February 2019, 16:15:44
It's a lot more work though. And people don't like it when we mess with their existing stuff.  :-[

Much more important that players are singing off the same sheet of music at the game table.

"Really, they're in the torso? Huh...the piece of art I saw once seemed like something else." = Not really a problem.

"Oh, that sheet is wrong, you have the old one. They're actually in the arms now, and I just blew one off, so cross that weapon off." = Problem.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: beachhead1985 on 21 February 2019, 17:28:33
Much more important that players are singing off the same sheet of music at the game table.

"Really, they're in the torso? Huh...the piece of art I saw once seemed like something else." = Not really a problem.

"Oh, that sheet is wrong, you have the old one. They're actually in the arms now, and I just blew one off, so cross that weapon off." = Problem.

Yeah; better to explain to someone on the tabletop; "hey, I know you picked that mech or made that decision in the game due to assumptions based on the appearance of the miniature you're looking at, but there was this error made 35 years ago no-one has ever bothered to fix. But had you thuroughly studied all record sheets, you would have known."

Art being one of the best marketting tools we have, afterall.

None of these are really big deals. Were a lot of people winning or losing games based on OstScout or Wasp hands? Orion arm-mounted SRMs? Probably not. This is the kind of thing that could have/should have been fixed many years ago and a little date on the record sheet book would have solved the problem. "Oh; yeah, you have the newer material. That's fair." Just like any other instance of updated material. Your -6(d) edition beats my -6(c) comes up at work a lot.

I know a position had to be taken, but in any setup where the art will be a big draw; siding with rules or even mistakes in the record sheets over art is going to feel like a bait and switch to new players. It's a matter of impressions; what do you see first? We are an "Army Book-First" game. The art, then the fluff, then the stats, then the rules, then the record sheets.

With the Cicada, specifically; this would have been an excellant opportunity to fix this problem and give a boost to a not-very-capable unit. Fast-moving mech...not a lot of firepower or protection...a wider arc of fire for the main weapons; especially in flipping arms would have been very, very welcome. As is...pretty meh, right?

Credit where it's due though; I like the new RS, but I wish we could have included the quirks on each sheet. Very cool aspect of the game now.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Hammer on 21 February 2019, 17:35:54
Credit where it's due though; I like the new RS, but I wish we could have included the quirks on each sheet. Very cool aspect of the game now.

When we release the new version of MegaMekLab you'll have the option to print the quirks on sheets. For official sheets we don't include them as they are an optional rule.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Daryk on 21 February 2019, 18:15:47
You guys are almost making me feel guilty for ignoring roles completely... almost...
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: beachhead1985 on 21 February 2019, 22:25:48
When we release the new version of MegaMekLab you'll have the option to print the quirks on sheets. For official sheets we don't include them as they are an optional rule.

Is MegaMekLab an offical program now??? That would be awesome.

But, aren't roles optional, as well? Surely.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 21 February 2019, 22:32:04
It might not be official but it’s officially used. This isn’t the first time MML has been used for sheets

And since roles have no intrinsic value, I don’t understand how you’d make them not optional? They’re designations, nothing more. The only time they come into play in the rules is in optional force creation in CampOps
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 21 February 2019, 22:32:12
Is MegaMek official Battletech program?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: nckestrel on 21 February 2019, 22:39:01
MegaMek is used to make official record sheets.
Word* is used to write official sourcebooks.
Indesign* is used to layout official books.
*or whatever software a writer/layout artist uses.
But none of those are "official BattleTech software."
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: beachhead1985 on 21 February 2019, 23:15:33
MegaMek is used to make official record sheets.
Word* is used to write official sourcebooks.
Indesign* is used to layout official books.
*or whatever software a writer/layout artist uses.
But none of those are "official BattleTech software."

Sorry. You had me all excited that we had official design software again.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Scotty on 21 February 2019, 23:23:14
Sorry. You had me all excited that we had official design software again.

This is presumably why nobody said that in the first place.

(yes, I know that sounds snarky as hell and no, I don't know how to make it better)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 22 February 2019, 06:54:44
As long new record sheets are officially released again. Thats what matters most.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 22 February 2019, 08:02:10
Indeed
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 22 February 2019, 08:18:16
I'd like it if Amazon could make the POD option for Forever Faithful live now...

(I know, it's early in the US, but it's after lunch here!)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 22 February 2019, 16:17:45
Can't get enough of Shimmering Sword's artwork? Our art director, Anthony Scroggins, has re-launched his Patreon page with new, never-before-seen, in-progress BattleTech artwork--like this all-new Orion!

You'll see concept work for mech redesigns, and an inside look at how he manages the 3D modeling / miniatures production pipeline.

Check it out here: patreon.com/shimmeringsword (https://www.patreon.com/ShimmeringSword)

Get him up to $200/mo and he's promising to kick off next month with some juicy stuff...

(https://i.ibb.co/rvPnqSL/52508142-1245523398928041-7878619391384879104-o.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HXvmRsM)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cache on 22 February 2019, 16:36:42
Makes me happy to see something like this, but also sad because I can't be a part of it. Patreon is dead to me. Other options to participate would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: beachhead1985 on 22 February 2019, 18:27:25
This is presumably why nobody said that in the first place.

(yes, I know that sounds snarky as hell and no, I don't know how to make it better)

It's cool, man. This is awesome; this is good stuff.

MML is a great program, that just keeps getting better and TPTB can use it to make great products. This is good.

I'd *like* an offical product like that, but that's 80% because it would make design stuff easier and 20% so i can give you more money for it and support the game (so long as it wasn't a subscription). MML is awesome and getting closer to doing everything with every update and they're good people.

Can't get enough of Shimmering Sword's artwork? Our art director, Anthony Scroggins, has re-launched his Patreon page with new, never-before-seen, in-progress BattleTech artwork--like this all-new Orion!

You'll see concept work for mech redesigns, and an inside look at how he manages the 3D modeling / miniatures production pipeline.

Check it out here: patreon.com/shimmeringsword (https://www.patreon.com/ShimmeringSword)

Get him up to $200/mo and he's promising to kick off next month with some juicy stuff...

(https://i.ibb.co/rvPnqSL/52508142-1245523398928041-7878619391384879104-o.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HXvmRsM)

I have really mixed feelings about this. I love Shimmering Sword's art, in general; I've been subbed to his DA for more than 10 years now, I think. But re-designing mechs makes me nervous.

I'm really glad it seems to get so many people excited about the game, but the old art and minis are fine for me. They were awesome in the late 90s when I got into the game and they rock now. So the silver lining is that maybe if i want more, people will sell theirs used for cheaper.

I worry though that in a game that has seen so much housekeeping (necessesary and prophylactic) in regards to art, that someday TPTB will say or have to say that the old art/minis are no longer official and they become unseen. Or at the very least, I can see the day when I pick up a sourcebook and the art no longer looks like my minis anymore. That will be a bummer.

I'm happy for you guys that are into this, really happy for Shimmering Sword, but it would be wonderful to have an official statement that we're not replacing art. Even better if you showed me something like the Old Flea and New Flea side by side with a throw-away line in a book that fleas look different because of when and where they were made or something like that.

And I empathize, because when I got the 4th ed Boxed set, it came with the little standees and they all had re-worked art and I still prefer some of them, even though they were never used again.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Charlie Tango on 22 February 2019, 19:57:31

Thing is though,  your minis never become "unseen"  The only case where they've retroed art, is those few cases where they've *had* to.  And even then,  the minis aren't "unseen".  Unlike games like 40K (as an example), Battletech doesn't worry too much about what the mini on the tabletop looks like, because it' the record sheet that defines what the unit is, not the mini.

Yes,  there are circumstances where minis can't be used, like in the case of Demo Agents not being permitted to use the old "Unseen" for official games.  But in unofficial/home games?  Bet your *** I will break out my old waddly big-gun Thunderbolt (even though I love Mr. Scroggins's  redone one too!)


I look forward to seeing some of the designs redrawn,  and maybe even someday being able to get legal minis of them when he does them.  But doesn't mean if someone brought an old Awesome or Commando sculpt to the table I wouldn't let them use it.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Ice_Trey on 22 February 2019, 20:55:17
Art being one of the best marketting tools we have, afterall.
Grant that if it's the art from the 30 year old mech designs that we're depending on to market the game, we've already shot ourselves in the foot.
Better to make sculpts that reflect the stats, and also improve the sculpts along the way.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Greatclub on 22 February 2019, 21:11:03
Can I ask for an update on the new printing of TacOps? I've got a sparring partner who needs one.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 22 February 2019, 21:30:03
Tac Ops was one of my favorite books.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: RifleMech on 23 February 2019, 08:20:53
Thing is though,  your minis never become "unseen"  The only case where they've retroed art, is those few cases where they've *had* to.  And even then,  the minis aren't "unseen".  Unlike games like 40K (as an example), Battletech doesn't worry too much about what the mini on the tabletop looks like, because it' the record sheet that defines what the unit is, not the mini.

Yes,  there are circumstances where minis can't be used, like in the case of Demo Agents not being permitted to use the old "Unseen" for official games.  But in unofficial/home games?  Bet your *** I will break out my old waddly big-gun Thunderbolt (even though I love Mr. Scroggins's  redone one too!)


I look forward to seeing some of the designs redrawn,  and maybe even someday being able to get legal minis of them when he does them.  But doesn't mean if someone brought an old Awesome or Commando sculpt to the table I wouldn't let them use it.

I've never played a an "official game" so forgive me for not knowing this, do you have to bring your own minis or does the agent have minis enough for everyone?  If I have to bring my own and my Orion Mini has become unseen, does that mean I can't use it?

If all or even most of the old Units are going to be getting new art, does that mean that TROs are going to be reprinted rendering the old designs illegal or will they have their own book like TRO: Phoenix Project keeping the older designs still legal?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cache on 23 February 2019, 08:52:16
I've never played a an "official game" so forgive me for not knowing this, do you have to bring your own minis or does the agent have minis enough for everyone?  If I have to bring my own and my Orion Mini has become unseen, does that mean I can't use it?

If all or even most of the old Units are going to be getting new art, does that mean that TROs are going to be reprinted rendering the old designs illegal or will they have their own book like TRO: Phoenix Project keeping the older designs still legal?
For every event that I have attended, the Commando Demo Agent has supplied the minis. If they did not have the correct mini for a unit in the game, like a Templar mini before they were sculpted, the mini was proxied. Your Orion will never become Unseen. The Unseen became so because of legal reasons, not updated style reasons. After those legal reasons happened, FASA, FanPro, and now CGL made it a policy to use only in-house artwork. This means that they definitely own the artwork and won't face legal challenges over them. The updated artwork we are seeing is only updated artwork. If you look at every depiction of a 'Mech over time, none are exactly the same. Some are close and some are quite stylized. That doesn't render any previous version unusable.

The powers that be have stated the Classic/nuSeen artwork will be added to products where it makes sense and that they will not have their own TRO. I have seen no statement about other updated artwork like the Orion, but I suspect it will be dealt with the same way.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Charlie Tango on 23 February 2019, 09:22:36
I've never played a an "official game" so forgive me for not knowing this, do you have to bring your own minis or does the agent have minis enough for everyone?  If I have to bring my own and my Orion Mini has become unseen, does that mean I can't use it?

If all or even most of the old Units are going to be getting new art, does that mean that TROs are going to be reprinted rendering the old designs illegal or will they have their own book like TRO: Phoenix Project keeping the older designs still legal?


Demo Agents will always have minis for players to use.  In some cases (like some events at our FLGS) we do have players bring minis if they want to use them, but we will always have more to use, and even if we can't match exactly what they want to use,  we will happily proxy.  For the big convention events, Demo Agents will provide everything, even dice and pencils if you need them.  The only thing we aren't allowed to have on the tables at "official events" (ones run by an Agent at a store or other appropriate venue) are the old Unseen dealt with by the lawsuit.  But those are an extremely special and limited case.  So even if, say, they release a new Orion using the new art,  your old Orion will still be fine for play.


(and LOLing a little at Cache calling us Commandos... for everyone else's info, that was the previous Agent program when FanPro had the license)

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Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 23 February 2019, 15:56:55
Commandos were cooler name
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cache on 23 February 2019, 16:46:10
(and LOLing a little at Cache calling us Commandos... for everyone else's info, that was the previous Agent program when FanPro had the license)
I think that's how long it's been since I was able to attend.  :D
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Post by: Colt Ward on 23 February 2019, 17:07:04
(and LOLing a little at Cache calling us Commandos... for everyone else's info, that was the previous Agent program when FanPro had the license)

And you do not want to know how many Commandos went commando . . .
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 23 February 2019, 17:18:31
And you do not want to know how many Commandos went commando . . .

While piloting their Commandos
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: SteelRaven on 23 February 2019, 19:21:30
While piloting their Commandos

While watching Commando
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/5tYAAOSwPI1axUne/s-l300.jpg)
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Post by: Sartris on 23 February 2019, 19:39:32
If you’re lucky the venue has an upright cabinet of capcom’s smash arcade hit Commando
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/26/Commando_flyer.png)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: worktroll on 23 February 2019, 23:35:24
Weren't you folk Marauders at one point? Or was that MFUS?

W.
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Post by: RifleMech on 24 February 2019, 00:50:37

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Thank you both. Its good to know that they'll have minis available and proxies will be accepted. I still have concerns though.  I know art can vary depending on the artist but the new art looks so different from the old that I wouldn't know what it was if it wasn't labeled. And with the way some people are the older ones become invalid. That's why I asked in something officialvwould be said for why unitscate being redesigned. They be always been that way or its an in universe marketing desicion?


Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sharpnel on 24 February 2019, 03:42:12
Commandos were cooler name
It was, but Agent works well as a play on words with Catalyst (Catalytic Agent)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: caioaf on 24 February 2019, 07:39:06
Why aren't you talking about Forever Faithful? The book was released yesterday and is amazing!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 24 February 2019, 08:24:04
My order is in for the paperback, i saw the Anvil / Splinter of Hope dualogy in paper back placed order too.  I'll get it by end next week. I can't wait!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Tyler Jorgensson on 24 February 2019, 10:48:11
My order is in for the paperback, i saw the Anvil / Splinter of Hope dualogy in paper back placed order too.  I'll get it by end next week. I can't wait!

This but for me its next week when I get paid... and maybe my tax refund comes in
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: The_Livewire on 24 February 2019, 11:33:17
Why aren't you talking about Forever Faithful? The book was released yesterday and is amazing!

Waiting for a new Kindle and my next paycheck.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: jimdigris on 24 February 2019, 11:43:10
Makes me happy to see something like this, but also sad because I can't be a part of it. Patreon is dead to me. Other options to participate would be appreciated.
What is wrong with Patreon?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Crimson Dawn on 24 February 2019, 12:32:09
I really like the new orion being shown.  It even has the SRM in the torso!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 24 February 2019, 12:33:35
What is wrong with Patreon?
I think, they changed the rules how Patreon worked. I saw alot of my web comic strips move away from the platform.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Daryk on 24 February 2019, 12:51:57
They tried (and ultimately failed) to change the fee structure at the end of 2017.  The creators I support didn't leave Patreon, but one of them helped lead the charge to get the original billing method restored.  The fact that they even tried what many perceived to a be cash grab left a lot of bad feelings.  Personally, I think the whole episode served as a pointed reminder of who they actually support.  If you need more details, PM me.

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Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 24 February 2019, 13:20:42
Why aren't you talking about Forever Faithful? The book was released yesterday and is amazing!

I'm another in the "ordered the print edition and waiting for it to ship" camp.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Maingunnery on 24 February 2019, 13:22:36
I'm another in the "ordered the print edition and waiting for it to ship" camp.
Link? Please.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 24 February 2019, 13:37:16
Link? Please.

I ordered the POD version on Amazon.  If you search for it on there you can select to purchase a Kindle or Paperback edition.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 24 February 2019, 13:44:42
Yeah you search Battletech forever faithful and both options will come up
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bosefius on 25 February 2019, 02:01:55
Link? Please.

https://www.amazon.com/BattleTech-Faithful-Blaine-Lee-Pardoe/dp/194158277X/ref=sr_1_1_twi_pap_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1551078056&sr=8-1&keywords=forever+faithful+blaine+lee+pardoe (https://www.amazon.com/BattleTech-Faithful-Blaine-Lee-Pardoe/dp/194158277X/ref=sr_1_1_twi_pap_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1551078056&sr=8-1&keywords=forever+faithful+blaine+lee+pardoe)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 25 February 2019, 05:08:25
For those keeping count, the order for POD copies of Forever Faithful and A Splinter of Hope/The Nail I placed on Saturday shipped today. Not bad.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 25 February 2019, 15:38:51
Just started Forever Faithful . . . went from End Game where Victor was looking to the future after learning he & Omi had a kid . . . to Victor looking back on the past.  Quite appropriate but a little surprising to make that sort of jump between two books and find such a smooth tie in.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Moonsword on 26 February 2019, 11:28:42
Okay, folks, get back on topic.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 26 February 2019, 13:19:40
*summoning Cubby*

Going to joggle the elbow . . . I see the new box set record sheets on the site DL page, but I do not yet see the link for the cut outs.

I am enjoying Forever Faithful, I think its interesting and knowing the author's interest in history I am surprised that it includes some recent history as a perspective.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 26 February 2019, 13:24:49
*summoning Cubby*

Going to joggle the elbow . . . I see the new box set record sheets on the site DL page, but I do not yet see the link for the cut outs.

I am enjoying Forever Faithful, I think its interesting and knowing the author's interest in history I am surprised that it includes some recent history as a perspective.

Doh! This is what happens when I don't write things down. I'll see about checking that off tonight. Thanks for the reminder!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 26 February 2019, 14:04:37
The terrain cutouts? The RS book has cutouts in the back as well

Any word on that Capital Punishment PoD book or TRO Clan Invasion?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 26 February 2019, 15:21:04
The terrain cutouts? The RS book has cutouts in the back as well

No the free stuff that did not make it into the boxes, pilot cards and mech reinforcement cutout/standups.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 26 February 2019, 15:35:05
The pilot cards I knew about. Didn’t realize there were bonus stand ups
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bosefius on 27 February 2019, 00:53:32
A good chunk of the conversation regarding record sheets and nominee resculpts has been broken off into it's own thread.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 27 February 2019, 09:10:30
The pilot cards I knew about. Didn’t realize there were bonus stand ups

This was from a May 2018 post about Box Set preview content: https://bg.battletech.com/news/box-set-preview-content/ (https://bg.battletech.com/news/box-set-preview-content/).

I got caught up in an after-hours meeting yesterday, but will start the ball rolling on this today.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: mbear on 28 February 2019, 07:30:50
This was from a May 2018 post about Box Set preview content: https://bg.battletech.com/news/box-set-preview-content/ (https://bg.battletech.com/news/box-set-preview-content/).

I got caught up in an after-hours meeting yesterday, but will start the ball rolling on this today.

Man, I can relate. Those meetings kill me.

Cubby, can you comment on the possibility of getting other PDF-only products as POD? Does the performance of the POD novels affect this decision? It'd be awesome if I could get all the XTROs in one handy book. And apologies if this question was already mentioned elsewhere.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 28 February 2019, 10:10:54
Cubby, can you comment on the possibility of getting other PDF-only products as POD? Does the performance of the POD novels affect this decision? It'd be awesome if I could get all the XTROs in one handy book. And apologies if this question was already mentioned elsewhere.

I don't have any specific information, other than to say that the idea is still in the water supply.

My sense is that it's primarily an issue of personnel bandwidth, and other new products taking precedence. I don't think the performance of POD novels affects the desire or ability to do sourcebook POD one way or the other. They're mostly separate concepts and lines of business, as far as I know.

The idea of doing XTROs in POD has come up frequently, it's a fairly obvious target for POD. But there's an additional issue with those in that DriveThruRPG didn't even support landscape orientation POD until last year, and my understanding is that the format is not cheap (https://www.drivethrurpg.com/pub_pod_cost.php). Re-laying out an XTRO to portrait orientation just for POD is probably not feasible from an economic or bandwidth perspective.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 28 February 2019, 10:26:51
New Turning Points Release Dates, House Arano Update

Three new Turning Points are scheduled for release in March and April, leading up to the much-anticipated House Arano sourcebook. Mark your calendars for:

Operational Turning Points: Fronc Reaches - March 15
Turning Points: Tokasha - March 29
Turning Points: Vega (3039) - April 12
House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition - April 26

The release date for House Arano has been adjusted due to the need for additional development time, and key personnel working on other products set for later this year. Thank you for your understanding as we keep multiple projects on track and ensure a steady stream of new BattleTech product for the game's 35th Anniversary year.

Check out all the Coming Releases here. (https://bg.battletech.com/books/upcoming-releases/)

(https://i.ibb.co/1rfmX5X/Operational-Turning-Points-Fronc-Reaches.png) (https://ibb.co/HtDHPsP) (https://i.ibb.co/2NMTG5f/Turning-Points-Tokasha.png) (https://ibb.co/16XkFbw) (https://i.ibb.co/RcCnJpr/Turning-Points3039-Vega.png) (https://ibb.co/89j3QDv)

Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 28 February 2019, 10:33:31
Fronc Reaches!?  Heh, maybe a bit more on the Aurigan Coalition . . . can you tell us the in universe date for the OTP?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 28 February 2019, 10:41:48
Coming releases says post jihad so... 3080s?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Tymers Realm on 28 February 2019, 11:36:22
So wait...

Is House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition gonna be PDF only or is it still gonna be available as a PoD?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 28 February 2019, 11:39:11
it was never advertised as PoD i don't think

the only pdf to PoD advertised on the coming releases was Capital Punishment, which is a compilation of the Jihad Turning Points set on the house capital planets.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Tymers Realm on 28 February 2019, 11:51:33
it was never advertised as PoD i don't think

the only pdf to PoD advertised on the coming releases was Capital Punishment, which is a compilation of the Jihad Turning Points set on the house capital planets.
As mentioned in the previous Upcoming Releases (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=62270.msg1462397#msg1462397) thread (dated 11/27/18)...
Quote
Step into the Aurigan Coalition in this Print-on-Demand and PDF product which brings the setting of the hit PC strategy game BattleTech into the long-running tabletop experience. Learn the proud history of the Coalition and its hope for the future, then take up the defense of the Arano dynasty with four all-new scenarios picking up where the game left off. "House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition" is authored by Harebrained Schemes' Andrew McIntosh and Kiva Maginn, writers and developers of the BattleTech PC game.
(bolding mine)
If the PoD isn't gonna happen, I'm disappointed. I actually wanted a physical copy to go along with the couple of House Sourcebooks I have from back in the day.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 28 February 2019, 12:14:49
oh cool i missed that.

i don't see why they would cancel that option because of the delay
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 28 February 2019, 12:16:14
If the PoD isn't gonna happen, I'm disappointed. I actually wanted a physical copy to go along with the couple of House Sourcebooks I have from back in the day.

Still POD as far as I know. None of the project parameters have changed, just the timing.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Tyler Jorgensson on 28 February 2019, 14:13:54
You mean I have to save my money until April?! Ahhh the wait.... will .... kill.... me


No but seriously I can't wait to read these
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Tymers Realm on 28 February 2019, 14:39:21
Still POD as far as I know. None of the project parameters have changed, just the timing.

Well can the PoD be added to what's mentioned on the Coming Releases page then? It lists PDF only.
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Post by: Sartris on 28 February 2019, 14:45:33
so uh. time for some only mostly baseless speculation.

1) CGL does not generally produce art without a product to put it in (or at least this was their stated policy per Ray the last time the subject came up here)
2) Mr. Scroggins has been previewing his redesigns of classic clan omnis (three so far) and the orion on his patreon page. The cover of forever faithful has a sleeker looking mad cat.
3) The proposed clan box was shelved several years ago with most of the work done
4) TRO: Clan Invasion is coming Soon™
5)
(http://puu.sh/CT96T/71d50d6511.png)
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Post by: Maingunnery on 28 February 2019, 14:58:58
so uh. time for some only mostly baseless speculation.

1) CGL does not generally produce art without a product to put it in (or at least this was their stated policy per Ray the last time the subject came up here)
2) Mr. Scroggins has been previewing his redesigns of classic clan omnis (three so far) and the orion on his patreon page. The cover of forever faithful has a sleeker looking mad cat.
3) The proposed clan box was shelved several years ago with most of the work done
4) TRO: Clan Invasion is coming Soon™
5)
Shadow Cat redesign, see Mr. Scroggins gallery.
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Post by: NeonKnight on 28 February 2019, 15:00:46
For the curious:

(https://scontent.fcxh3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/53074197_1248828525264195_2076012987012874240_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ht=scontent.fcxh3-1.fna&oh=129710a9061da5f5e5e47b319deed3cf&oe=5D14D27D)
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Post by: Colt Ward on 28 February 2019, 15:05:38
which has a 3D model printed apparently . . . I am not sure the Shadow Cat needed it, but its a popular video game design and the redone art looks more like MW4 than the TRO art.
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Post by: Cubby on 28 February 2019, 15:15:25
Well can the PoD be added to what's mentioned on the Coming Releases page then? It lists PDF only.

Hm, I'd thought I'd fixed all the instances of that back when we announced it. Done now.

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Post by: nckestrel on 28 February 2019, 15:15:52
Well can the PoD be added to what's mentioned on the Coming Releases page then? It lists PDF only.
It's entry on the Coming Releases page says "Step into the Aurigan Coalition in this Print-on-Demand and PDF product"

EDIT: Or maybe I didn't check until after Cubby already fixed it....
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Post by: Deadborder on 28 February 2019, 16:04:53

2) Mr. Scroggins has been previewing his redesigns of classic clan omnis (three so far) and the orion on his patreon page. The cover of forever faithful has a sleeker looking mad cat.

So besides the Shadow Cat and Mad Cat, can I ask what the third one was?
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Post by: I am Belch II on 28 February 2019, 17:17:06
Great stuff, can't wait
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Post by: beachhead1985 on 28 February 2019, 18:22:30
So besides the Shadow Cat and Mad Cat, can I ask what the third one was?

Those look really great.

I hope if they re-do the Blackhawk they keep the Leg-Shoulders for no torso-twist. It's a very cool and distinct design and I'd hate to see it go.

That Fronc Reaches product really looks interesting!
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Post by: Daryk on 28 February 2019, 18:51:42
Man, the list of things I want to buy continues to outpace my ability to pay for it...  :-\
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Post by: Sartris on 28 February 2019, 19:40:33
So besides the Shadow Cat and Mad Cat, can I ask what the third one was?

Daishi and Thor
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Post by: worktroll on 28 February 2019, 19:53:32
Any link?

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/034/999/1de.gif)
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Post by: Daryk on 28 February 2019, 19:56:51
Horrible movie, but awesome GIF WT!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Sartris on 28 February 2019, 20:51:38
Any link?

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/034/999/1de.gif)

You have to be a subscriber to Anthony Scroggins’ Patreon so I don’t think it’s sharable.

I will say that the clan redesigns aren’t as dramatic as the classics/nuseen but if you liked the shadow cat from above or the mad cat on forever faithful, that’s the general aesthetic
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Post by: Cubby on 28 February 2019, 22:21:08
Any link?

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/034/999/1de.gif)

Www.patreon.com/ShimmeringSword (http://Www.patreon.com/ShimmeringSword)
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Post by: I am Belch II on 01 March 2019, 15:07:30
When it comes to new stuff ....until its out the Desire to know more is always there.
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Post by: The_Livewire on 02 March 2019, 21:41:50
Just finished Forever Faithful.  Wow. Changes a lot of what we knew about them.
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Post by: bpardoe870 on 04 March 2019, 18:01:17
I hope that was a good "wow." 

There is a lot going on, trust me.  There are some clues in those last few chapters, but of course, we have a few surprises in hand. 

Blaine "Buck" Pardoe
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Post by: The_Livewire on 04 March 2019, 20:20:09
I hope that was a good "wow." 

There is a lot going on, trust me.  There are some clues in those last few chapters, but of course, we have a few surprises in hand. 

Blaine "Buck" Pardoe

Very good wow.  I've wondered what happened to the Jag survivors, and few people I think thought through the after effects of Task Force Serpent.  I'll likely read it a few more times, taking notes.
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Post by: Wrangler on 05 March 2019, 07:33:49
It was a great book.  I hope there follow on behind it,  i do like the Fidelis.
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 06 March 2019, 07:53:42
My copies of Forever Faithful and A Splinter of Hope/The Anvil arrived today.  Apparently they arrived in Ireland 6 days ago and only exited customs yesterday...
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Post by: Wrangler on 06 March 2019, 12:10:47
My copies of Forever Faithful and A Splinter of Hope/The Anvil arrived today.  Apparently they arrived in Ireland 6 days ago and only exited customs yesterday...
I guess they wanted time to read them before they delivered them to you. ;)
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Post by: NeonKnight on 06 March 2019, 12:27:32
Dumb Question, how do I access the PoD stuff to order?
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Post by: Sartris on 06 March 2019, 12:29:04
amazon
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Post by: NeonKnight on 06 March 2019, 13:06:28
OK, amazon (Canada at least), isn;t showing me a PoD option that I can see, and there is a listing for PRINT at $18.55

So, not sure I'm looking in the right place :(
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Post by: Sartris on 06 March 2019, 13:08:24
print is PoD :) my copy of forever faithful has a page in the back saying when it was printed (25 Feb 2019)

edit: my books that have the PoD page in the back:

Forever Faithful
The Nellus Academy Incident
Legacy
Splinters of Hope / The Anvil
Decision at Thunder Rift (Legends)
Warrior Trilogy (Legends)

that leaves Embers of War as the only conventional post-roc printing of my BT fiction, apart from the BC anthologies.
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Post by: NeonKnight on 06 March 2019, 13:44:24
Maybe a Link as to where you went to order from would help.
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Post by: Sartris on 06 March 2019, 13:49:33
Hey mods can we do that? Unsure if that violates rule 9
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Post by: Bedwyr on 06 March 2019, 13:53:37
Hey mods can we do that? Unsure if that violates rule 9

I'll put on my mod had and say it should be fine because you're trying to source a legit BT product, not shill for a commercial site or a sale on something else without asking the admins first.
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Post by: Cache on 06 March 2019, 13:54:20
and there is a listing for PRINT at $18.55
If it says print, that's it.

Got mine in the US here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/194158277X?psc=1
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Post by: NeonKnight on 06 March 2019, 14:25:17
If it says print, that's it.

Got mine in the US here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/194158277X?psc=1

Ok, thanx. Matches the Canadian Site (though cost is a little higher as Can $ vs US $), but it matches.

Just wanted to make sure I was reading correct.
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 07 March 2019, 02:21:50
Amazon's UI is basically awful for differentiating all this stuff.  If you know what BattleTech product you want and can search for it, you can generally tell the difference between a new copy sold by Amazon, an ebook, or if it's being sold by someone on their marketplace.  But you can't tell any of that from a glance if you search "BattleTech"

You can't search for just fiction and break it down into ebooks, PoD and second-hand either.  It's frustrating.
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Post by: Cubby on 07 March 2019, 09:20:33
Reminder to myself: I need to investigate whether it's possible / allowed to link to an Amazon POD product on a third-party site (namely, the CGL store).

I feel like that's a potentially messy rabbit hole to go down. And having a link on the CGL store wouldn't change the profit split or anything like that. But it could at least clean up some of this confusion; one entry for POD, one entry for eBook, just like we divide print, PDF and combo now.
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Post by: NeonKnight on 07 March 2019, 09:35:10
Well...I'm a grey-haired Geezer and never did a PoD before, i've heard of it sure, and know what it is, but having never done it, was not sure I was actually looking at it, because there was nothing that actually said PoD or anything else.

There was a BOX with KINDLE beneath it with a price listed, and then a Box (pale orange in color) that said print. And that box had beneath # new from $$, so basically, nothing letting me know that THAT was the PoD option :(.
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Post by: wantec on 07 March 2019, 09:51:26
Well...I'm a grey-haired Geezer...
Your pic looks more pink than grey to me
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Post by: NeonKnight on 07 March 2019, 09:58:11
Your pic looks more pink than grey to me

That was my SPA DAY ;)
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Post by: Sartris on 07 March 2019, 10:12:07
here's how you know it's the PoD option going forward

(http://puu.sh/CWtPM/868e477e73.png)

to double-check when you get the book, turn to the last page. on the reverse will be a barcode in the lower left and in the lower right the publisher's address and the date the book was printed. in the US they're made in delaware. unsure if canada has a separate press.
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Post by: NeonKnight on 07 March 2019, 10:30:15
Yup, Canadian one looks the same.

As stated, first PoD purchase ever made, and past experience from other purchases on Amazon, was the box on the right was often for 'other retailers'
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Post by: Sartris on 07 March 2019, 10:33:19
yeah, now just be sure to check the seller information since amazon makes zero attempt to let you know what is pod and what is an existing stock
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Post by: Cubby on 07 March 2019, 11:08:13
Well...I'm a grey-haired Geezer and never did a PoD before, i've heard of it sure, and know what it is, but having never done it, was not sure I was actually looking at it, because there was nothing that actually said PoD or anything else.

Sure. But you're not alone in that confusion, we've gotten similar questions on social media and elsewhere.

BT product can be tricky enough to find/order, no reason to let Amazon make it more difficult. Also, I'd like the links to POD in the CGL store because then we could directly link to those pages rather than Amazon. Brings people into the CGL store instead, where they might find other stuff to buy direct from the company. Same reason I generally only share the CGL store links for new product, not DTRPG.
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Post by: kinwolf on 07 March 2019, 12:00:19
But is it really important when we buy a book to know that it is PoD?  ???   Honest question.

One negative of PoD is that you can only find the PoD version on the website of the company that does the PoD.  Case in point: I learned there was a PoD version of Forever Faithful here on the board  after I had buy the ebook from indigo, where there was no mention of such a version. And even after reading about it here, I had to search for it.  My first reaction was to go to drivetrughRpg since they do alot of PoD, it took me a while before I checked on amazon and there found it.
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Post by: Sartris on 07 March 2019, 13:03:21
It is because buying PoD leads to more PoD offerings which hopefully leads to sourcebook offerings that probably won’t ever get another print run.
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Post by: kinwolf on 07 March 2019, 14:36:17
Oh yeah, I know, and I'm all for print version!   What I meant is why is it important to know on the store page if its PoD or not. As long as customers buy a print version, it shows interest in the product in that format.
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Post by: NeonKnight on 07 March 2019, 14:47:09
Oh yeah, I know, and I'm all for print version!   What I meant is why is it important to know on the store page if its PoD or not. As long as customers buy a print version, it shows interest in the product in that format.

Possibly because I prefer to pay the true cost for the legit copy, otherwise, I could download the Kindle version, print it on my Printer with 4 pages per 8.5x11 sheet, and then sell to you, but I'm sure you'd not be happy with it ;)

Sure it's legitimately a 'print copy' so you'd have no argument on that front.
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Post by: Sartris on 07 March 2019, 14:59:14
Oh yeah, I know, and I'm all for print version!   What I meant is why is it important to know on the store page if its PoD or not. As long as customers buy a print version, it shows interest in the product in that format.

Depends on costs. If there’s interest in print but the PoD does poorly they won’t offer it because it sinks money in they won’t see back. If all the costs are on the back end taken from sales then it’s not as big of an issue

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Post by: Cubby on 07 March 2019, 15:16:48
But is it really important when we buy a book to know that it is PoD?  ???   Honest question.

My fault, I think everyone is taking my statement literally. What I meant was, it's important to know whether a product you're buying is print or digital. What I was getting at is that 1) the CGL store could help customers understand this by listing the two products more clearly than Amazon does and 2) having them listed in the CGL store would be good for a lot of reasons. (See below.)

The fact that it's POD specifically and not mass-printed isn't the point.

Quote
One negative of PoD is that you can only find the PoD version on the website of the company that does the PoD.

Right, what I'm saying is, I don't know if that absolutely has to be the case. No matter what, Amazon is getting the sale of the book. But listing the new fiction products in both Print (POD) and digital (pick your platform) in the CGL store would be valuable. That way, customers have a true picture of all BattleTech products out there, and putting on them on the CGL store gives me a link I can point to on social media and elsewhere, driving traffic to a store where we might be able to sell them other stuff.

Something for my futures list, once my ilClan writing is done...
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 07 March 2019, 15:33:21
From Amazon's perspective, I'm sure they don't see a difference between a POD book and one they keep in stock or have to hand in their distributors, and they seem to not want customers to see a difference (the same way they don't tell you which products they stock and which they order next-day in your name). 

In all honesty, the fact that these books are POD is really only of interest to us because anyone posting here is basically obsessed with BattleTech and the minutiae of how it's produced is a factor of interest.
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Post by: kinwolf on 07 March 2019, 18:41:50
It make sense(all replies)   :thumbsup:
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Post by: mbear on 11 March 2019, 09:45:06
Forever Faithful is a really nice story. I wouldn't have thought it because I don't care for that particular Clan but I really enjoyed it.

The only nitpick I have is that one of the designs used by one particular Clan hadn't been invented yet so it'd be hard to use. ;)
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Post by: Colt Ward on 11 March 2019, 09:59:20
Forever Faithful is a really nice story. I wouldn't have thought it because I don't care for that particular Clan but I really enjoyed it.

The only nitpick I have is that one of the designs used by one particular Clan hadn't been invented yet so it'd be hard to use. ;)

And the Alpha Galaxy ratio of Omnis to std in general.
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Post by: Wrangler on 11 March 2019, 15:36:05
Forever Faithful is a really nice story. I wouldn't have thought it because I don't care for that particular Clan but I really enjoyed it.

The only nitpick I have is that one of the designs used by one particular Clan hadn't been invented yet so it'd be hard to use. ;)
Which one was it?
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Post by: RotS fan on 11 March 2019, 15:44:48
Which one was it?
AFAIK, the Araña
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Post by: bpardoe870 on 11 March 2019, 15:55:30
As the author, I would suggest that is an early prototype before production release.  We have done that before in the universe. 

Chill.

Blaine "Buck" Pardoe
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Post by: Paul on 11 March 2019, 16:01:15
Sure, or we call it a mistake and move on.
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Post by: hf22 on 11 March 2019, 16:48:06
The Araña is an odd choice for that battle, even if in even production, given it is supposed to be a quasi IndustrialMech.
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Post by: beachhead1985 on 11 March 2019, 20:46:14
As the author, I would suggest that is an early prototype before production release.  We have done that before in the universe. 

Chill.

Blaine "Buck" Pardoe

Boy, howdy! I think of the Jenner in Betrayal of Ideals.
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Post by: Liam's Ghost on 11 March 2019, 20:54:42
I've been hesitant for reasons, but I've bitten the bullet and ordered forever faithful. 

Boy, howdy! I think of the Jenner in Betrayal of Ideals.

Hardly the same thing. Clan Jenners have been a thing for a while. They even called out how weird it was way back in the nineties with the Jenner IIC entry.
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Post by: Sartris on 11 March 2019, 21:02:07
The Jenner F appeared the year of the exodus in 2784 so it's not impossible that an example or two (along with a Jenner A that debuted in '79), or at least schematics made the voyage.

Or Nicky K saw it in a dream  :D
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Post by: Mendrugo on 11 March 2019, 21:02:48
Technically the Jenner debuted six weeks before the Exodus Fleet left.  The SLDF could have snagged some from the first production run on their way out.
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 11 March 2019, 21:28:09
They came with Raymond Sainze.
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Post by: Kojak on 12 March 2019, 01:27:26
How is that possible? Didn't he end up on the Exodus fleet by accident?
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Post by: Liam's Ghost on 12 March 2019, 02:09:45
It doesn't require having physical Jenners. The exodus fleet just needed the plans.

(Humorous side note, in my younger, more foolish, more conspiratorial days, I took the existence of the Jenner IIC as evidence that the Nova Cats had somehow been in contact with Clan Wolverine post annihilation, and had gotten the plans from them)
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Post by: Kojak on 12 March 2019, 04:31:16
Sure, but why would Raymond Sainze have them? Wasn't he just the commander of New Samarkand's recharge station? That would be like the guy who runs O'Hare just happening to have the plans for the F-35.
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Post by: Cubby on 12 March 2019, 04:51:23
That would be like the guy who runs O'Hare just happening to have the plans for the F-35.

(https://i.ibb.co/YpmtwXR/5-DEC9-D5-E-5-B34-4-AFC-A35-F-A460-F5-FA99-B1.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
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Post by: Kojak on 12 March 2019, 04:58:23
Ah. Did not realize that was a joke.  xp
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Post by: mbear on 12 March 2019, 06:45:48
As the author, I would suggest that is an early prototype before production release.  We have done that before in the universe. 

Chill.

Blaine "Buck" Pardoe

Oh, I'm Mr. Freeze over here. That was the only nitpick I had. And really, not a huge deal. Just seemed odd to me.
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Post by: Mendrugo on 12 March 2019, 07:18:14
The one question I had after reading Forever Faithful is whether it was a Jaguar-only dialect thing that they called the Star League personnel "Inner Spherers" instead of the previously standard "Spheroids".  I can see the parallel with the Successor States calling the Kerensky Cluster folk "Clanners," but it just sounded unusual to my ear.
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Post by: Empyrus on 12 March 2019, 08:00:02
Has "spheroids" ever been in-universe term by the way? Can't recall.
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Post by: Mendrugo on 12 March 2019, 08:27:08
Very commonly used in both sourcebooks and fiction.  A keyword search of my digital files returned over 100 separate products in which that term is used.  "Inner Spherers" is unique to Forever Faithful, making me wonder if it's just a Jaguar figure of speech.  (Notably, "Spheroid" is not used in "Exodus Road," which has the most Jaguar speaking roles.)
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Post by: Empyrus on 12 March 2019, 20:41:40
Very commonly used in both sourcebooks and fiction.  A keyword search of my digital files returned over 100 separate products in which that term is used.  "Inner Spherers" is unique to Forever Faithful, making me wonder if it's just a Jaguar figure of speech.  (Notably, "Spheroid" is not used in "Exodus Road," which has the most Jaguar speaking roles.)
Weirdly, would make sense for Clanners. I mean, with them and their "proper" speech. Spheroids? Weird contraction/abbreviation/whateveritiation. Inner Spherers on the other hand is more "correct".
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Post by: Fat Guy on 12 March 2019, 21:31:34
Weirdly, would make sense for Clanners. I mean, with them and their "proper" speech. Spheroids? Weird contraction/abbreviation/whateveritiation.

Aff (affirmative), Neg (negative), Batchall (battle challenge) and others aren't weird contraction/abbreviation/whateveritiation?    ;)
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Post by: Sartris on 12 March 2019, 21:55:03
Founder-approved contractions only
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Post by: Colt Ward on 12 March 2019, 22:31:55
I was just wondering how he wanted Clan sensor techs to report Unions and Overlords.
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Post by: Sartris on 12 March 2019, 22:34:33
Small Egg and Big Egg
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Post by: Empyrus on 12 March 2019, 23:12:45
Aff (affirmative), Neg (negative), Batchall (battle challenge) and others aren't weird contraction/abbreviation/whateveritiation?    ;)
I did say "proper" speech.
Or should i have said [air quotes] to drive the point home?  8)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 13 March 2019, 06:22:09
I looking forward to the next new release, i got squirrel (squirrel!) away some dough so i can get them when they come out. The "new" House book is one of them.  I don't recall if it has much info on what going be in it, i'd imagine there will be at scenario or two in it aside from info on minor Periphery royal house no one knew about (or big wig Major Royal Houses dropped from their social parties.)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Weirdo on 13 March 2019, 08:28:07
I was just wondering how he wanted Clan sensor techs to report Unions and Overlords.

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Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 13 March 2019, 08:37:15
I looking forward to the next new release, i got squirrel (squirrel!) away some dough so i can get them when they come out. The "new" House book is one of them.  I don't recall if it has much info on what going be in it, i'd imagine there will be at scenario or two in it aside from info on minor Periphery royal house no one knew about (or big wig Major Royal Houses dropped from their social parties.)

afaik the only public information is what's on the coming releases page. cubby has not given us any spoiler crack
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 13 March 2019, 09:16:03
Ooooo . . . throw blood in the waters and give us a House Arano table of contents!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 13 March 2019, 11:00:42
Ooooo . . . throw blood in the waters and give us a House Arano table of contents!

Soon. Different/larger announcement coming this afternoon. Drafting and scheduling it now.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 13 March 2019, 11:02:38
Soon. Different/larger announcement coming this afternoon. Drafting and scheduling it now.

the rarely attempted tease of a tease!

the crowd goes wild!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: jimdigris on 13 March 2019, 14:54:30
I see it now, but it's just sitting there with a "!Product not in stock" message.  Please don't tease us like that. :(
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: kinwolf on 13 March 2019, 15:00:25
Spheroids is what their granddaddy called the spherers.  You can't have the new cool clankids call them that too, they had to find something else  ;)

Very commonly used in both sourcebooks and fiction.  A keyword search of my digital files returned over 100 separate products in which that term is used.  "Inner Spherers" is unique to Forever Faithful, making me wonder if it's just a Jaguar figure of speech.  (Notably, "Spheroid" is not used in "Exodus Road," which has the most Jaguar speaking roles.)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: RotS fan on 13 March 2019, 15:31:44
Soon. Different/larger announcement coming this afternoon. Drafting and scheduling it now.

Cool  :D
Time to be hyped
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 13 March 2019, 15:35:59
I see it now, but it's just sitting there with a "!Product not in stock" message.  Please don't tease us like that. :(

Not sure what you're seeing? But in any event, not a tease. I have a whole announcement post loaded, but Facebook is experiencing a worldwide outage, and I want the social media posts to go live alongside the forum and website posts. As soon as they're back up, I'll post.

(https://i.ibb.co/G3XdtWN/med-1480094296-image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tPSHxqF)

Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 13 March 2019, 15:38:23
(http://www.americancinemathequecalendar.com/sites/default/files/stills_events_390_240/startrekkhan390_0.jpg?1345596724)

ZUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Weirdo on 13 March 2019, 16:02:12
Hmm?

Oh, different angry Zuuuuuu... Never mind! :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Mendrugo on 13 March 2019, 16:25:55
Spheroids is what their granddaddy called the spherers.  You can't have the new cool clankids call them that too, they had to find something else  ;)

Sphadoinkadoinks?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 13 March 2019, 20:18:14
Product Preview - March 2019: Map Set, Battle Mats, New Fiction

A DropShip load of exciting new BattleTech products is heading your way—check out this preview of what’s entering orbit, and then come back on Monday, March 18 at 11 a.m. EST for a new post with links to the new products going live in the Catalyst Game Labs store.

--The first all-new map set in nearly twenty years, Map Set: Grasslands ($29.99) will be available in the Catalyst Game Labs store, with a street date of April 17 to retail outlets. The perfect expansion to either the Beginner Box or BattleTech: A Game of Armored Combat boxed set, these six two-sided paper maps include 12 battlefields of the same high-quality, modern art of those box sets, offering new tactical challenges and opportunities.

--The next all-new, 35th Anniversary celebratory item will be four all-new BattleMats (29.99 each), available exclusively in the Catalyst Game Labs store. These high quality neoprene maps are durable and highly-detailed, and will make an eye-catching addition to your gaming table. They’re only available exclusively through the Catalyst online store, and they’ll go fast! A future release of these products to retail outlets is possible depending on customer response. The mats available include:

--Another commemorative product will be available: lapel pins! Wear your BattleTech love proudly with these enamel pins bearing the 35th Anniversary logo and Warhammer.

--The first volume in the long-awaited trilogy of Kell Hounds short stories by legendary BattleTech author Michael Stackpole, Not the Way the Smart Money Bets ($3.99) will be available in ebook format. The next two volumes will be close behind: A Tiny Spot of Rebellion ($3.99) will be available this Friday, March 22, while A Clever Bit of Fiction ($3.99) will follow on Wednesday, March 27. Please note that these are all digital e-book format; future print format availability has not been determined.

--The BattleTech Beginner Box ($19.99) will be back in stock through the Catalyst store, and through distribution channels to your local game store. The first print run sold out very quickly, and demand remains high for this outstanding introduction to our game of heavy metal mayhem!

--The first installment in the second wave of Winter 2019 PDF products will be available: Operational Turning Points: Fronc Reaches. Recreate a young nation’s desperate struggle for survival with this scenario pack for the Chaos Campaign system (https://bg.battletech.com/download/CAT35600_ChaosCampaign_Rulebook.pdf?x64300).

(https://i.ibb.co/w4X7Lwy/Miniatureson-Battle-Matt.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3cqvsM1) (https://i.ibb.co/XWD7NNW/CAT35150-BT-Map-Set-Grasslands-Front.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Gd9WBBd) (https://i.ibb.co/1dT4BdW/Not-the-Way-the-Smart-Money-Bets-EPub-Cover.png) (https://ibb.co/ww428wm)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cache on 13 March 2019, 20:30:24
Nice. This is literally the only thing on Facebook feed right now.   ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 13 March 2019, 20:31:42
If only you knew what I had to pay to make that happen...

(I kid. But boy, that outage was a pain.)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 13 March 2019, 20:48:34
Neoprene mats are a surprise. How big do they run?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: RotS fan on 13 March 2019, 21:11:12
Nice batch of products! There's something for everyone in there  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Valkerie on 13 March 2019, 22:45:49
I'm interested in those mats as well.  More details please! :D
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bosefius on 14 March 2019, 02:19:58
Neoprene mats are a surprise. How big do they run?

I'm interested in those mats as well.  More details please! :D

Check back Monday, as stated this is a preview.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 14 March 2019, 05:42:56
So the battlemats have the same maps as the Grasslands one?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 14 March 2019, 08:11:42
Neoprene mats are a surprise. How big do they run?

They shrink a size in the drier.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 14 March 2019, 09:00:25
They shrink a size in the drier.

When you really need to fit a battlefield in your wallet
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: SteelRaven on 14 March 2019, 10:44:39
Aff (affirmative), Neg (negative), Batchall (battle challenge) and others aren't weird contraction/abbreviation/whateveritiation?    ;)
(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z335/HikageMaru/Wolf-English2.png)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bosefius on 14 March 2019, 19:27:59
So the battlemats have the same maps as the Grasslands one?

That will be announced Monday.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bosefius on 15 March 2019, 14:07:52
Now Available - Operational Turning Points: Fronc Reaches!

As pirate bands turned to the Periphery after the Jihad, the nascent military and non-existent intelligence assets of the Fronc Reaches made the young nation a particularly tempting target. Opposing them were the Colonial Marshals, who risked everything to drive the pirates from their worlds.

https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/collections/battletech/products/operational-turning-points-fronc-reaches
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 15 March 2019, 14:19:45
Set in 3088... with the weapons of 3055  ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 15 March 2019, 14:50:58
Now Available - Operational Turning Points: Fronc Reaches!

As pirate bands turned to the Periphery after the Jihad, the nascent military and non-existent intelligence assets of the Fronc Reaches made the young nation a particularly tempting target. Opposing them were the Colonial Marshals, who risked everything to drive the pirates from their worlds.

https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/collections/battletech/products/operational-turning-points-fronc-reaches

Cool...I was gonna look to send my Player merc Forces that way after completing TOTAL CHAOS!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: SteelRaven on 15 March 2019, 14:56:07
On the next Deadliest Warrior: Cowboys vs Pirates
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 16 March 2019, 07:12:27
IS The new Mapset...is the newest thing??
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Luciora on 16 March 2019, 10:29:06

All right, sweethearts, what are you waiting for? Breakfast in bed? Another glorious day in the Marshals! A day in the Colonial Marshals is like a day on the farm. Every meal's a banquet! Every paycheck a fortune! Every formation a parade! I *love* the Marshals!

I had to repost this from FB  ;D

Now Available - Operational Turning Points: Fronc Reaches!

As pirate bands turned to the Periphery after the Jihad, the nascent military and non-existent intelligence assets of the Fronc Reaches made the young nation a particularly tempting target. Opposing them were the Colonial Marshals, who risked everything to drive the pirates from their worlds.

https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/collections/battletech/products/operational-turning-points-fronc-reaches
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 16 March 2019, 14:03:07
What awesome Operational Turning point! I hope record sheets come out for the unique mechs/ba.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 16 March 2019, 16:27:15
All right, sweethearts, what are you waiting for? Breakfast in bed? Another glorious day in the Marshals! A day in the Colonial Marshals is like a day on the farm. Every meal's a banquet! Every paycheck a fortune! Every formation a parade! I *love* the Marshals!
RIP, Sergeant Matthews.   :'(

Hoping for recordsheets soon.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 18 March 2019, 10:01:02
The Watch - March 2019: New Map Pack, BattleMats, Michael Stackpole Fiction Now Available

BattleTech’s 35th anniversary thunders onward with the upcoming release of several new map products, a lightning-fast restock of the BattleTech Beginner Box, and much more.

There’s been a lot going on across the Inner Sphere during this anniversary year. To help you keep all this news straight, we’re compiling announcements in this series of dispatches from The Watch. Expect to see more official announcements from The Watch over the next few months, through the end of the anniversary year.

Here’s what’s new for BattleTech:

--The first all-new map set in nearly twenty years, BattleTech Map Pack: Grasslands (https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/map-set-grasslands) ($29.99) is now available in the Catalyst Game Labs store, with a street date of April 17 to retail outlets. The perfect expansion to either the Beginner Box or BattleTech: A Game of Armored Combat boxed set, these six two-sided paper maps include 12 battlefields of the same high-quality, modern art of those box sets, offering new tactical challenges and opportunities.

(https://i.ibb.co/Nyc4ZDb/CAT35150-BT-Map-Set-Grasslands-Front.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tJVd8jF) (https://i.ibb.co/c6rWzCp/CAT35150-BT-Map-Set-Grasslands-Back.jpg) (https://ibb.co/K2rtCLQ)

--The next all-new, 35th Anniversary celebratory item is here. Four BattleMats (https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battlemats) (29.99 each) will be available exclusively in the Catalyst Game Labs store. These high-quality 36" x 22" neoprene maps are durable and highly-detailed, and will make an eye-catching addition to your gaming table. Each map is twice the width of a standard BattleTech map sheet, and features a new, special terrain type on one side, and two maps from Map Pack: Grasslands on the reverse. They’re only available exclusively through the Catalyst online store, and they’ll go fast! A future release of these products to retail outlets is possible depending on customer response. The mats available include:
(https://i.ibb.co/r5g2vHM/Miniatureson-Battle-Matt.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wpThY4C) (https://i.ibb.co/3zk5zQD/35800-A-Battle-Mat-Grass-Desert-V4.png) (https://ibb.co/KwmcwSM) (https://i.ibb.co/2WkzWFS/35800-B-Battle-Mat-Grass-Lunar-V4.png) (https://ibb.co/34Cx4Tv) (https://i.ibb.co/4tNmvtG/35800-C-Battle-Mat-Grass-Alpine-V4.png) (https://ibb.co/xL5C9L0) (https://i.ibb.co/Q9yjHdm/35800-D-Battle-Mat-Grass-Savanna-V4.png) (https://ibb.co/xhx8gH5) (https://i.ibb.co/WPYCp1K/Battle-Mat-Topdown-Photo.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yYb2BJs)

--Another commemorative product will be available: lapel pins (https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-35th-anniversary-lapel-pin)! Wear your BattleTech love proudly with these enamel pins bearing the 35th Anniversary logo and Warhammer.

(https://i.ibb.co/5j4MF33/pin.jpg) (https://ibb.co/092DtLL)

--The first volume in the long-awaited trilogy of Kell Hounds short stories by legendary BattleTech author Michael Stackpole, Not the Way the Smart Money Bets (http://books2read.com/BattleTechNottheWaytheSmartMoneyBets) ($3.99) will be available tomorrow, Tuesday, March 19 in ebook format. The next two volumes are close behind: A Tiny Spot of Rebellion (http://books2read.com/BattleTechATinySpotofRebellion) ($3.99) will be available this Friday, March 22, while A Clever Bit of Fiction (http://books2read.com/BattleTechACleverBitofFiction) ($3.99) will follow on Wednesday, March 27. Please note that these are all digital e-book format; future print format availability has not been determined.

(https://i.ibb.co/n1wNBxV/Not-the-Way-the-Smart-Money-Bets-EPub-Cover.png) (https://ibb.co/QHJ3kyq) (https://i.ibb.co/TH2M601/A-Clever-Bit-of-Fiction-EPub-Cover.png) (https://ibb.co/GVpQyM9) (https://i.ibb.co/R72hLmj/A-Tiny-Spot-of-Rebellion-EPub-Cover.png) (https://ibb.co/kMK3Yfm)

--The BattleTech Beginner Box (https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-beginner-box) ($19.99) is back in stock through the Catalyst store, and through distribution channels to your local game store. The first print run sold out very quickly, and demand remains high for this outstanding introduction to our game of heavy metal mayhem!

--Thanks to the high demand generated by the new boxed sets, stock of the reprinted version of Total Warfare ($39.99) released last summer has sold out in print for the moment, but is still available in PDF format (https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-total-warfare-pdf?variant=16101325766690). We anticipated this increase in demand, and a reprint is already underway. (Remember, this edition of Total Warfare bore the classic Atlas artwork on the cover; the copies being printed now will have the same cover. It’s more of the same book, not a new book.)

--Production on TechManual, the second volume in the line of core rulebook reprints bearing vintage covers is now underway. We’ll bring you further updates on when they’re expected in stock as soon as possible, but the PDF version is available now (https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-techmanual-book-pdf)!

(https://i.ibb.co/Mgtq0SX/CAT35002-V-Tech-Manual-Vintage-Cover-Reprint.jpg) (https://ibb.co/p1MCFwm)

--Is that all? Nope! The first installment in the second wave of Winter 2019 PDF products is now available: Operational Turning Points: Fronc Reaches (https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/collections/battletech/products/operational-turning-points-fronc-reaches). Recreate a young nation’s desperate struggle for survival with this scenario pack.

(https://i.ibb.co/JyN6S9R/RKKBA4B.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Mendrugo on 18 March 2019, 10:31:20
Is "Not the Way the Smart Money Bets" a verbatim compilation of the BattleCorps serial, or, as in the case of "Betrayal of Ideals," an altered version?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 18 March 2019, 10:36:05
Is "Not the Way the Smart Money Bets" a verbatim compilation of the BattleCorps serial, or, as in the case of "Betrayal of Ideals," an altered version?

Not sure. Checking.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bedwyr on 18 March 2019, 10:57:01
Mats ordered.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: kinwolf on 18 March 2019, 11:07:46
Hopefully the mats will make it to retails. Shipping cost to Canada combined with the exchange rate sadly makes it prohibitive to order directly from catalyst store. I did it with BMM book and it doubled the cost  :(
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: The Wayfarer on 18 March 2019, 11:39:07
Very cool.

However, I just ordered Unending Faith and I thought there was supposed to be an update to it for the Alpha Strike cards?  With the CGL store, do they notify you of updates to products you’ve purchased?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Fat Guy on 18 March 2019, 13:06:46
And I am officially now $170.25 poorer.

$157.44 to the Catalyst Store and $12.81 to Barnes&Noble.

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Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bosefius on 18 March 2019, 13:08:37
Is "Not the Way the Smart Money Bets" a verbatim compilation of the BattleCorps serial, or, as in the case of "Betrayal of Ideals," an altered version?

Per the editor, yes, it's a verbatim compilation. Nothing has been changed.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Mendrugo on 18 March 2019, 13:21:47
Thanks.  Mats and maps ordered.  And I'll snap up Kell Hounds books 2 and 3 as soon as they're online.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 18 March 2019, 14:00:25
Hope some of this is a Adepticon in less than 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 18 March 2019, 14:54:37
Hope some of this is a Adepticon in less than 2 weeks.

I'm told that the Map Pack, the pin, and the BattleMats are expected to be on hand at Adepticon; unsure on quantities, but expect them to be limited.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: jimdigris on 18 March 2019, 14:58:30
I just spent a small fortune on maps, and it was worth every penny. :D
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 18 March 2019, 15:06:01
These all came for sale the day my credit card cycles. Surely the universe was sending me a sign  :D
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 18 March 2019, 17:23:21
Is there any chance Mr. Stackpole's Kell Hound stories in a Pod form?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Doom on 18 March 2019, 17:27:38
Please note that these are all digital e-book format; future print format availability has not been determined.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Fear Factory on 18 March 2019, 17:45:42
Mother of god. Printing mats on neoprene is an awesome idea.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cache on 18 March 2019, 18:39:06
Nice, nuSeen Stinger on KH book 2. First canon look at it, right?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 18 March 2019, 18:47:21
Nice, nuSeen Stinger on KH book 2. First canon look at it, right?

Went to double check. It was on his deviant art but this is the first product it’s been seen on i believe

https://www.deviantart.com/shimmering-sword/art/Battletech-Stinger-717085355

For those keeping score at home:
seen in canon products
Locust
Stinger (book cover)
Wasp
Valkyrie
OstScout
Phoenix Hawk
Shadow Hawk
Griffin
Wolverine
Rifleman (BMM interior art)
Thunderbolt
Archer
Warhammer
Marauder
Battlemaster

yet to be seen
Scorpion
Ostroc
Ostsol
Crusader
Goliath
Longbow
Marauder II
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Daryk on 18 March 2019, 18:53:39
Umm… none of the images are showing for me, Cubby... not sure why.

And I too hope the "exclusive" stuff makes it to retail stores.  Not really sure what the marketing strategy is there, but I'll echo that printing maps on neoprene is brilliant!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 18 March 2019, 19:02:44
“We didn’t make enough for full retail distribution”
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cache on 18 March 2019, 19:37:17
Yes I think so (unless it was on mr scroggin’s deviantart)
All of them [except the Crusader] have been for a little while now, but the remainder of the Macross-based Unseen replacements haven't been put in a canon product yet. Looks like this is the (re)start of it.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Empyrus on 18 March 2019, 19:41:17
Did we ever get new Crusader art? IIRC, when the others were available on ShimmeringSword deviantart, the Crusader wasn't.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 18 March 2019, 19:48:37
We did not
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Liam's Ghost on 18 March 2019, 19:52:34
“We didn’t make enough for full retail distribution”

I assume it's more like "We don't know how well they'll sell and we don't want another, more expensive lance packs situation".
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 18 March 2019, 20:31:45
I’d say that’s the leader in the clubhouse for why they didn’t do a full run, yeah. I don’t know how expensive neoprene is but doing a retail release of thousands would tie up a lot more capital than paper maps do.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Charlie Tango on 18 March 2019, 20:32:15
Did we ever get new Crusader art? IIRC, when the others were available on ShimmeringSword deviantart, the Crusader wasn't.

No.

No we didn't.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Padraig Tseng on 18 March 2019, 20:57:36
Pins are sold out already?!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: kinwolf on 18 March 2019, 21:10:52
Bah, I confirm USPS hates Canada.  14.50$ shipping for one mat, and 34.50$ for two...  I was almost ready to cave in if shipping would have been around 1.5x(20$-22$) for two items, but seeing it double gave me a cold shower.(could be useful in a new heatsink design though.  Mech overheating?  Load up USPS website and look at shipping cost: Instant cooling.  Works only once though, heat rising fast when looking a second time :P ) 

Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 18 March 2019, 21:40:48
Umm… none of the images are showing for me, Cubby... not sure why.

On the web post? Strange. Seems okay to me--might be the browser you're using?

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And I too hope the "exclusive" stuff makes it to retail stores.  Not really sure what the marketing strategy is there, but I'll echo that printing maps on neoprene is brilliant!

You'd have to ask management...

I assume it's more like "We don't know how well they'll sell and we don't want another, more expensive lance packs situation".

...but this is my sense, yes.

Pins are sold out already?!

Checking.


Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Greatclub on 18 March 2019, 22:35:59
I'm probably just going to hope that those battlemaps come out in paper at some point. I like, they're just a bit more than I'm willing to invest at the moment.

I am getting the map pack
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Daryk on 19 March 2019, 03:23:08
I'm using Edge, and can see the pictures down in the Aircraft and Ships threads in Off Topic, so I really have no idea what's going on up here.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Deadborder on 19 March 2019, 05:12:38
I'm using Edge, and can see the pictures down in the Aircraft and Ships threads in Off Topic, so I really have no idea what's going on up here.

Blakeists. It's the only logical answer
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: YingJanshi on 19 March 2019, 06:57:33
So I take it the pins were a one and done kind of thing? Or is there going to be a second batch?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Mendrugo on 19 March 2019, 07:16:51
I'm using Edge.

Have you tried putting your character points into Extra Edge?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 19 March 2019, 09:15:09
I'm probably just going to hope that those battlemaps come out in paper at some point. I like, they're just a bit more than I'm willing to invest at the moment.

I am getting the map pack
They are essentially just the maps in the map pack and box sets tweaked to fit on the larger size of the neoprene mats. If you get the box sets and map pack then for the most part, you’ll have the battlemats in paper.

Sorry, my mistake. Only one of the four sets are similar to what’s out now on paper. The front sides of the other three sets may or may not be similar to future paper map packs.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 19 March 2019, 12:16:58
Is there any chance Mr. Stackpole's Kell Hound stories in a Pod form?

OmniBooks would be 25% more expensive than regular books but would be far more flexible.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: theothersarah on 19 March 2019, 13:36:13
I'm a touch disappointed by the lack of BattleTech record sheets for the new units in OTP: Fronc Reaches but the rest of it is top notch so I can live iwthout them. I rather enjoy the OTP products because they contain a complete campaign compared to the other Turning Points which seem to generally be individua unlinked missions. I still like them, it's just a complete campaign is nice to have.

Also I'm stoked by the return of paper maps. It has been a while and these ones look awesome. 6 double sided maps is great value, too; I'll probably buy two sets so I can mix and match all of them.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 19 March 2019, 13:50:25
the record sheets are apparently coming so your disappointment should only be temporary

Also I'm stoked by the return of paper maps. It has been a while and these ones look awesome. 6 double sided maps is great value, too; I'll probably buy two sets so I can mix and match all of them.

yeah no new maps was a huge hole in the line. i'll be getting two map sets as well. i also found people selling the maps from the new box sets a la cart so i could do the same with those.

i'm really hoping this neoprene thing takes off because want to be able to pull them out of a box for a game like i'm a rug salesman.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Joewrightgm on 19 March 2019, 18:36:50
I’m excited for the house Arano book; the Battletech computer game is what brought me back after all this time
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: pheonixstorm on 19 March 2019, 23:39:55
Nice, nuSeen Stinger on KH book 2. First canon look at it, right?

Would have been nice if it was in the spot the Commando is in...
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: SteelRaven on 20 March 2019, 00:06:05
Would have been nice if it was in the spot the Commando is in...

I have no problem with the mechs in the new Box Set getting the spotlight.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 20 March 2019, 00:47:17
since i can't bask in the glow of the new stuff until it arrives at my house, i'm left with looking ahead. Let's see what else we've got going on

PDFs - on schedule. we have two turning points and two touring the stars left in what has been a good several months

House Arano - 4/26

Print on Demand - Capital Punishment (jihad turning points compilation) - Status unknown? We've not heard much about this besides the fact that it's on the schedule

Alpha Strike: Commander's edition - delayed (per nckestrel in the wishlist thread. Hopefully not for too long as AS needs a rulebook in print

TRO: Clan Invasion - haven't gotten an update in a while. Mr. Scroggins' patreon has seen a good bit of clan omni redesigning so hopefully that new art is making it in?

Core Book Reprints - TechManual is on deck. hopefully the turnaround on TacOps is a bit quicker as it's arguably the most important core book besides TW

Map Packs - the check is in the mail. hopefully another set this year? pretty please?

Fiction - So far so good. BC Anthology 6 and Jennifer Brozek's YA Dark Age trilogy are still expected. Also more Legends PoD is hopefully on the way.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Empyrus on 20 March 2019, 01:18:36
What about the other announced TROs, that we haven't heard anything about afterwards? Irregular Tech (or some such)? Golden Century (that is/was a thing, right)?

Or that one mini-PDF series that got delayed (i already forgot the name).

Sorry to keep making noise about these, just most interested in these things. Don't mind the wait assuming they're coming, just start wondering if stuff got cancelled since there's nothing said about it.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: rebs on 20 March 2019, 01:34:56
I heard tptb are going to be focusing on products that move the timeline forward, and not focus as much on products that fill in older eras for a while.  Is that true?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: nckestrel on 20 March 2019, 02:55:33
I heard tptb are going to be focusing on products that move the timeline forward, and not focus as much on products that fill in older eras for a while.  Is that true?

The next several releases are:
Tokasha: pre-3000?
Vega 3039: 3039
TR:Clans invasiom: 3050s-3060s?
Arano: 3020s?

So I’d so no, there’s no truth to that.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: rebs on 20 March 2019, 04:02:20
Thanks for the fast response.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 20 March 2019, 06:44:46
https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=60601.msg1393771#msg1393771

The relevant quote from ray, in response to a request for a late Succession Wars book:

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Lastly, while for a while we had a decent balance of source material from the past while advancing the story, for years now we’ve only explored the past. We need to tip things in the other direction for a while before we can go back and give the two equal time again.

So the stated intention is to have more products based in the forward edge of the timeline. When that will happen is anyone’s guess as there’s nothing on the immediate schedule besides ilclan to indicate such a shift
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: nckestrel on 20 March 2019, 07:04:13
My guess is the idea that most of the upcoming "past releases" are small scale PDF offerings (TR Clan Invasion being the exception), where ilClan is the large scale in print offering coming up.  Doing another Historical would be a large scale in print offering.  That's when it hits Ray's idea of tip the scales back towards advancing the story line rather than going with the past.
TR Clan Invasion is an exception because it hits the larger overall priority to have a solid base for new players (Box Set>BMM>TRSW>TRCI), and is not a "story line" product.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 20 March 2019, 08:08:31
i was also thinking that it would be imprudent to announce post-ilclan plans because literally every book title would be a massive spoiler alert - and saying "we have X things in the works" is also a fool's errand as the shifting sands of development mean something might get axed, delayed, or repurposed and some jackass (probably me) will wonder aloud where the other book is.

also i'm all for as many products as they can put out that strengthen the foundation of options for new players.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Leftovernoodles on 20 March 2019, 08:10:51
Are there digital version of those fancy new maps planned in the future?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 20 March 2019, 08:33:31
TRO Clan Invasion won’t have any new art. It’s a compilation.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 20 March 2019, 10:10:33
TRO Clan Invasion won’t have any new art. It’s a compilation.
Oh thats too bad. I was hoping to see new classic versions of the unseens in it.  That would have been good place for them.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 20 March 2019, 10:20:19
TRO Clan Invasion won’t have any new art. It’s a compilation.

i remember you saying that but i was hopeful the new Scroggins-afied omnis might make an appearance.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 20 March 2019, 10:42:45
That’s not the intention. None of those are final TRO-ready illos.

ASCE has gone to press.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 20 March 2019, 10:44:59

ASCE has gone to press.

Hype
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Scotty on 20 March 2019, 10:53:42
Hype

Not emptyquoting.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sharpnel on 20 March 2019, 10:58:56
That’s not the intention. None of those are final TRO-ready illos.

ASCE has gone to press.
Forgive my ignorance but what is ASCE?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Mendrugo on 20 March 2019, 10:59:22
Alpha Strike Commander's Edition
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 20 March 2019, 11:06:36
TRO Clan Invasion won’t have any new art. It’s a compilation.

So the plan of adding a mustache to the Axman fell through?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Empyrus on 20 March 2019, 11:14:11
So the plan of adding a mustache to the Axman fell through?
Book microtransactions, sell pens so that people can add their mustache on their own to 'Mechs.  :D
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bedwyr on 20 March 2019, 11:17:40
Book microtransactions, sell pens so that people can add their mustache on their own to 'Mechs.  :D

Extra artist time had to be reallocated to get a Burnside beard on the Mad Dog.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Pat Payne on 20 March 2019, 11:29:50
ASCE has gone to press.

 :clap: :beer: :excited: :rockon: :bow: I cannot wait for the new Commander's Edition. Where'd I put that TARDIS?  ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 20 March 2019, 11:30:57
so PDF Soon™?  O:-)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: wolfspider on 20 March 2019, 11:48:40
so PDF Soon™?  O:-)
What he said!  ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 20 March 2019, 12:10:27
So the plan of adding a mustache to the Axman fell through?
I work for free, but you get what you pay for thou.  :D

(https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=64318.0;attach=51623)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Finlos on 20 March 2019, 15:03:45
That’s not the intention. None of those are final TRO-ready illos.

ASCE has gone to press.
This forum really, really needs a 'like post' option.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: jimdigris on 20 March 2019, 15:22:50
I work for free, but you get what you pay for thou.  :D

(https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=64318.0;attach=51623)
I like it :thumbsup:
We need to canonize a merc unit that paints mustaches on all their mechs.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 20 March 2019, 15:26:11
Lyran origins, Wilhem's Kaisers?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Maingunnery on 20 March 2019, 15:34:08
Lyran origins, Wilhem's Kaisers?
FedSun, Dastardly Axes  ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bosefius on 20 March 2019, 15:36:42
Back on topic please
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Hayden. on 20 March 2019, 15:41:16
Super excited for Commander's Edition.  I keep refreshing the relevant websites hoping for some .PDF news...  :drool:
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Pat Payne on 20 March 2019, 17:17:11
but when do more GoAC boxes arrive?

I suspect now or at least now-adjacent as last week I was able to get one at my FLGS, after a few weeks of them not being able to order one due to overwhelming success at selling out :).
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: GreyWolfActual on 20 March 2019, 19:27:25
I'm told that the Map Pack, the pin, and the BattleMats are expected to be on hand at Adepticon; unsure on quantities, but expect them to be limited.
This makes me very happy. >:D
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: ussenterprise on 20 March 2019, 23:13:43

ASCE has gone to press.

Cool.  We got an ETA?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: ussenterprise on 20 March 2019, 23:22:49
I'm interested in the neoprene battlemats and have enough funds to get one of the four.  Any recommendations?  I got the large box set and would like to avoid repeated maps, if possible, for more variety.

Can someone give me a sense of what the mats look like (e.g. do they have a lot of elevation? a lot of flatland? a lot of unusual features like rivers or large thickets of trees?)

Also, are the hex sizes the same as those on the maps that came in the box set?

Further, can the mats be folded in half or partially rolled up if my table is not quite big enough to fit the full mat?  Or is it all or nothing?

Thanks in advance for your help.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 21 March 2019, 05:48:40
If any advice, it buy them immediately before their gone!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 21 March 2019, 08:21:32
Can someone give me a sense of what the mats look like (e.g. do they have a lot of elevation? a lot of flatland? a lot of unusual features like rivers or large thickets of trees?)

I ordered a set and am planning to post full pics and a video of them once they arrive, both here and on the official BT social media.

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Also, are the hex sizes the same as those on the maps that came in the box set?

Yes.

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Further, can the mats be folded in half or partially rolled up if my table is not quite big enough to fit the full mat?  Or is it all or nothing?

They come rolled up in the box, so they're very flexible for your gaming space and storage needs. Neoprene, not known for its stiffness.

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Thanks in advance for your help.

If no one has said it yet, welcome aboard! It's a great time to jump in, and the community here will be happy to answer any questions you have, at length and with a brain-melting level of detail.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 21 March 2019, 09:36:20
Brent had one at Mech-Con. Think the nice neoprene play mats for Magic or other simialr games, akin to a mouse pad, or PC keyboard pad, but obviously bigger.

I've ordered all 4, so...like Cubby once they arrive I'll post up if no one beats me to it.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 21 March 2019, 10:25:13
Think the nice neoprene play mats for Magic or other simialr games, akin to a mouse pad, or PC keyboard pad, but obviously bigger.

Here's hoping the edges are sewn or somehow sealed. MTG mats have always had fraying problems with use, but on more recent mats I've started to see sealed, stitched edges, and they look super sweet.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 21 March 2019, 10:38:03
Here's hoping the edges are sewn or somehow sealed. MTG mats have always had fraying problems with use, but on more recent mats I've started to see sealed, stitched edges, and they look super sweet.

that I cannot talk to. I've 'seen' one of them (touched it even), but that was beginning of December and was a hectic period.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 21 March 2019, 13:37:56
Cool.  We got an ETA?
No, when we do it’ll be announced.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: 00Dawg on 21 March 2019, 14:23:47
--Another commemorative product will be available: lapel pins (https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-35th-anniversary-lapel-pin)! Wear your BattleTech love proudly with these enamel pins bearing the 35th Anniversary logo and Warhammer.

(https://i.ibb.co/5j4MF33/pin.jpg) (https://ibb.co/092DtLL)
Sooo.....when's the restock on these?   8)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bosefius on 21 March 2019, 17:47:45
Sooo.....when's the restock on these?   8)

We don't know yet.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: mrbooth on 21 March 2019, 18:06:00
Any word on the froc reaches update?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: worktroll on 21 March 2019, 18:12:39
Any word on the froc reaches update?

The latest designs on Paradiso are emphasising a more formal, Tombstone inspired look than last year ...

(http://cdn.star2.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/19F0AB9E558F4C84BF5A751CE2021E67.jpg)

(Yes I know it's a misspelling, but the joke was too good to pass up.No offense meant!)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Weirdo on 21 March 2019, 19:06:24
Nobody will EVER convince me that isn't the preferred fashion for the comfortably well-off in Fronc. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 22 March 2019, 07:16:31
Will any of the new stiff be at Adepticon next weekend?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 22 March 2019, 07:50:32
Will any of the new stiff be at Adepticon next weekend?

All the most recent corpses are kept at the morgue.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 22 March 2019, 08:03:41
Will any of the new stiff be at Adepticon next weekend?

You already asked this, and I answered:

I'm told that the Map Pack, the pin, and the BattleMats are expected to be on hand at Adepticon; unsure on quantities, but expect them to be limited.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: beachhead1985 on 22 March 2019, 20:17:56
Got My map pack pre-ordered at the FLGS!

Any word on the froc reaches update?

What? Surely not, it just came out. Is there something missing or wrong with it? I just scanned mine quickly.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: nckestrel on 22 March 2019, 20:20:54
Got My map pack pre-ordered at the FLGS!

What? Surely not, it just came out. Is there something missing or wrong with it? I just scanned mine quickly.
Record Sheets are being added.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: The Wayfarer on 22 March 2019, 20:37:01
Record Sheets are being added.

When will Unending Faith be updated with the AS cards?

Mike
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Daryk on 23 March 2019, 08:44:27
Thanks for the follow up on the record sheets, nckestrel!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 23 March 2019, 08:53:20
Record Sheets are being added.

Does this mean those of us who already purchased will need to downlaod again at a later date?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 23 March 2019, 09:21:58
only if you want the record sheets. or you can convince nckestrel to print and hand deliver them 
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 23 March 2019, 09:27:40
only if you want the record sheets. or you can convince nckestrel to print and hand deliver them

Always want Record sheets.

Just curios to know as I was going to print and bind the Fronc Reaches PDF, so just want to know if I should wait on that.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 23 March 2019, 10:13:39
In a surprising coincidence, I peeked over at Sarna to see just how many "35th _____" units there were.  Quite a few, all of which would tie in perfectly with that pin!  Unfortunately it seems many of them got wiped out in the 1st or 2nd SW, so...maybe we should fix that.

35th BattleMech regiment (Heavy), now...who makes the most Warhammers in the Classics era?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: nckestrel on 23 March 2019, 10:51:41
Always want Record sheets.

Just curios to know as I was going to print and bind the Fronc Reaches PDF, so just want to know if I should wait on that.

You should wait on that.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: nckestrel on 23 March 2019, 10:53:52
When will Unending Faith be updated with the AS cards?

Mike

I have no idea. Sorry, “when” isn’t something I usually have knowledge of. I sometimes know what is being worked on or not, but when requires a comprehensive and/or decision making level I’m not at. I have to wait alongside everybody else.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 23 March 2019, 11:00:35
You should wait on that.

thanx
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Daemion on 23 March 2019, 11:33:36
I know this is about new product, but I hope no-one minds if I make a request of sorts.  It's regarding Touring the Stars.

I love what's done, so far, but I was wondering if there's a way to do a general classification for each type of society in each system.  Something like: Centralized Colonyville versus Dispersed Population versus Well Developed versus... you get the idea.

I look at what I've read of New Earth, where it's an older colony, well developed with cities all over the place, at one point.  Easy to imagine there's not much remaining that's unexplored. 

Pit that versus Astrokaszy, which has a dispersed population with many caliphate city states at perpetual war with each other.  There's room on that planet for roaming nomadic tribes of dispossessed treasure-hunters to hide.  Enough so that WoB and the Marians were running operations into the Magistracy from that world. 

Versus a system that's still young enough that the capital is the first colony site, and not much has spread beyond there except for the ones seeking isolation, or people dedicated to food production.  (I can't think of any specific ones right off hand.)

Is that possible? Should that be a fan project, instead?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Paul on 23 March 2019, 12:50:39
Should that be a fan project, instead?

Yes.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 23 March 2019, 15:58:43
Thanks for answering this. Forgot I asked it.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bosefius on 23 March 2019, 17:13:45
Several people have asked so here are the non-Grasslands sides of the neoprene mats
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Daryk on 23 March 2019, 18:33:26
That's awfully hilly for a "savannah", but still a great looking map!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cache on 23 March 2019, 19:25:45
That's awfully hilly for a "savannah", but still a great looking map!  :thumbsup:
Can't see the elevations, but I suspect it's more like "holey."
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 23 March 2019, 19:36:53
That's awfully hilly for a "savannah", but still a great looking map!  :thumbsup:

After a survey of hundreds of worlds, it turns out earth is the weird one
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: ussenterprise on 23 March 2019, 21:41:08
Several people have asked so here are the non-Grasslands sides of the neoprene mats

Thanks.  How many elevation levels are there on the lunar map?
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Post by: Sartris on 23 March 2019, 23:18:40
looks like mostly level 1-2 but there are a few L3 peaks like in the lower left
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Post by: ussenterprise on 24 March 2019, 01:49:33
Any plans to restock L and XL Hoodies?
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Post by: Daemion on 24 March 2019, 12:02:18
Do the mats come in 4" hex-grid sizes? 2"?

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Post by: I am Belch II on 24 March 2019, 12:04:16
Those mats look great
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Post by: Euphonium on 24 March 2019, 12:52:23
Love both the map set and the battlemats, but can't afford to buy either until they're available from UK retailers. Shipping adds ~65-70% to the cost and that's just too darned much, never mind the risk of getting sting for 20% import duties  :(

Any idea when/if these products (and both new box sets) are likely to be available in the UK?
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Post by: ussenterprise on 24 March 2019, 16:14:41
Do the mats come in 4" hex-grid sizes? 2"?

Regular hex size, same as paper mat, per answer to my similar question a couple pages back.
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Post by: Bosefius on 24 March 2019, 18:04:01
Love both the map set and the battlemats, but can't afford to buy either until they're available from UK retailers. Shipping adds ~65-70% to the cost and that's just too darned much, never mind the risk of getting sting for 20% import duties  :(

Any idea when/if these products (and both new box sets) are likely to be available in the UK?

As of right now they are not scheduled for retail release, only available through our store or at conventions. If they decide to release them to retail we'll notify everyone.
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Post by: Bosefius on 24 March 2019, 18:05:51
Do the mats come in 4" hex-grid sizes? 2"?

These are offered in standard Battletech map he sizes, if you need custom sizes there are sites that can do that.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 25 March 2019, 09:47:22
Any plans to restock L and XL Hoodies?

Yes, I'm told that a restock was ordered a week ago as of this writing. They should be back in stock soon.
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Post by: Sartris on 25 March 2019, 10:36:17
Got my shipping notification today. Will have the mats on Wednesday
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Post by: Fat Guy on 25 March 2019, 14:53:48
I came home to find a very tall and thin box on my porch.


My mats and map pack have arrived!   :clap: :rockon: :beer:


All are simply gorgeous!  :smitten:
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Post by: jimdigris on 25 March 2019, 16:11:57
I got the email today, but I still can't track it. :-[
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Post by: Major Headcase on 25 March 2019, 16:44:16
I haven't  seen anything in a while but I probably just don't know where to look... but has there been any kind of update on when the new Alpha Strike book is expected??
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Post by: Sartris on 25 March 2019, 16:52:37
It’s at the printers so... soon™️?
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Post by: mbear on 26 March 2019, 05:56:55
I got the email today, but I still can't track it. :-[

Stupid stealth armored shipping containers. ;)

How about some action shots of the new neoprene mats. I'm curious to see if they look good, but the "similar products develop ragged edges" issue mentioned earlier gives me pause. (Maybe I could use a clothes iron and a sheet of silicone paper to seal the edges?)
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Post by: Cubby on 26 March 2019, 08:34:34
Stupid stealth armored shipping containers. ;)

How about some action shots of the new neoprene mats. I'm curious to see if they look good, but the "similar products develop ragged edges" issue mentioned earlier gives me pause. (Maybe I could use a clothes iron and a sheet of silicone paper to seal the edges?)

Got mine yesterday. *Hoping* to get some video and photos up on the official social media platforms and here on the forums tonight. (But sleep training the nine-month-old, so I may just curl up in a corner in the fetal position instead.)
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Post by: Colt Ward on 26 March 2019, 09:33:46
Got mine yesterday. *Hoping* to get some video and photos up on the official social media platforms and here on the forums tonight. (But sleep training the nine-month-old, so I may just curl up in a corner in the fetal position instead.)

Every time I hear such stories I thank God my kid is easy . . . until he learned to climb over the crib (my wife blames me) at 2.25 we could sleep in until noon on the weekends b/c he would usually sit happily in the crib playing with stuff animals.  He would go to bed and might stay up late playing in the crib- now we get told"'I don't wanna" even when he does head down the hall.

Lol, I do have a problem with him coming in the computer room, snatching a MWDA mini off the desk, and go running down the hall giggling.
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Post by: Sartris on 26 March 2019, 09:46:19
sleep regression is real.

my fourteen month old is currently interested in the lance of merkava tanks we discovered she could reach.
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Post by: Colt Ward on 26 March 2019, 09:58:05
Tank commander instead of Mechwarrior?  A future Horse in the making!
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Post by: Elmoth on 26 March 2019, 09:59:26
I just gave mine a stuffed Chtulhu and Tindalos hound to practice world destruction. Introduction to harder drugs wargames and miniatures will come later.
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Post by: Sartris on 26 March 2019, 10:04:58
perhaps. at daycare they did a basketball bracket where they picked printouts of the mascots and she tended to favor the animals over the more anthropomorphic ones so probably a future clanner if nothing else. also the more fragile mech minis are much more secure (i am NOT letting her handle the pwwka that's currently on my desk)

speaking of clanners... TRO: Clan Invasion update?  O:-)

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Post by: Colt Ward on 26 March 2019, 10:06:58
hahaha . . . Carebear Kodiaks and My Little Balius!
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Post by: Cubby on 26 March 2019, 11:19:47
hahaha . . . Carebear Kodiaks and My Little Balius!

Someone around here once suggested I make the Cubby's Cubbettes merc unit. I'm considering giving my 3.5 year old a spare plastic mini to paint and determine their unit scheme.

But back to the topic at hand...

speaking of clanners... TRO: Clan Invasion update?  O:-)

In progress, probably moreso now that Alpha Strike: Commander's Edition is off to the printers.
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Post by: Joewrightgm on 27 March 2019, 08:50:29
Could we get a teaser of the House Arano book? Maybe a table of contents page or some such?
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Post by: Cubby on 27 March 2019, 09:10:08
Could we get a teaser of the House Arano book? Maybe a table of contents page or some such?

Still in progress. I'll share what I can when I can.
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Post by: Joewrightgm on 27 March 2019, 09:50:00
Still in progress. I'll share what I can when I can.

Thank you sir!
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Post by: Sartris on 27 March 2019, 15:20:59
mats arrived today. absolutely fantastic. please make them a regular thing going forward
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Post by: jimdigris on 28 March 2019, 05:15:54
My maps and mats arrived last night.
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Post by: Sartris on 28 March 2019, 13:19:22
product code on the mats is weird. the map pack is 35150, which checks out as the hexpacks were 35140-35142. the mat is listed as 35800 on the box, which is the same number as the first BattleCorps anthology.
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Post by: mbear on 28 March 2019, 16:52:12
the mat is listed as 35800 on the box, which is the same number as the first BattleCorps anthology.

That's nice. CGL provided a real world example of how ComStar hid Jardine from the rest of the Inner Sphere through misdirection and renumbering. (Personally I'd find it hilarious if the Hidden Five weren't hidden deliberately as part of a nefarious plan, but because someone messed up during data entry.)
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Post by: beachhead1985 on 28 March 2019, 22:48:10
I have a question for anyone who bought the recent POD editions of the Warrior Trilogy;

What was ever done with the handful of references to Team Banzai in the books? I remember them figuring on a off in the background.

I just watched Buckaroo Banzai for the first time and I had no idea they borrowed so much.

I know the Team Banzai was an issue for the same reason as the Fighting Urukhai.
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Post by: Tyler Jorgensson on 28 March 2019, 23:38:39
IIRC they died on New Avalon during the Blakist invasion after being weakened in the Civil war.

Edit: and I just realized the question. Ignore me .
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Post by: Bosefius on 29 March 2019, 05:08:12
I have a question for anyone who bought the recent POD editions of the Warrior Trilogy;

What was ever done with the handful of references to Team Banzai in the books? I remember them figuring on a off in the background.

I just watched Buckaroo Banzai for the first time and I had no idea they borrowed so much.

I know the Team Banzai was an issue for the same reason as the Fighting Urukhai.

The novels themselves weren't touched, so all the references are still there. The only thing changed were the covers and the mech/vehicle images at the end of the book.
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Post by: klarg1 on 29 March 2019, 10:28:36
I got a tracking notice yesterday, and my maps are already scheduled for delivery. I have to say - that was *blindingly* fast. I even have a game scheduled for this Sunday to give them a test-drive.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: beachhead1985 on 29 March 2019, 11:28:45
The novels themselves weren't touched, so all the references are still there. The only thing changed were the covers and the mech/vehicle images at the end of the book.

Cool.
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Post by: Cubby on 29 March 2019, 14:20:44
I got a tracking notice yesterday, and my maps are already scheduled for delivery. I have to say - that was *blindingly* fast. I even have a game scheduled for this Sunday to give them a test-drive.  :thumbsup:

Jealous! I have them, but have not gotten to give them a test drive yet.
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Post by: Bosefius on 29 March 2019, 19:44:56
It's a little late but it's here!

The year of Battletech rolls on with the release of "Turning Points: Tokasha"!

"As the Golden Century drew to a close, Clan Hell’s Horses christened a massive new OmniMech factory on Tokasha as the foundation of a new age of prosperity."

https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/turning-points-tokasha

We're also happy to announce that the revised "Operational Turning Points: Fronc Reaches" is available to download.
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Post by: mrbooth on 29 March 2019, 19:52:33
So reading the new Turning Points love it but now makes me want TRO Golden Century any update on it.
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Post by: Foxx Ital on 29 March 2019, 20:14:45
It's a little late but it's here!

The year of Battletech rolls on with the release of "Turning Points: Tokasha"!

"As the Golden Century drew to a close, Clan Hell’s Horses christened a massive new OmniMech factory on Tokasha as the foundation of a new age of prosperity."

https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/turning-points-tokasha

We're also happy to announce that the revised "Operational Turning Points: Fronc Reaches" is available to download.

 YESSSSSSSS
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Post by: Bosefius on 29 March 2019, 20:23:34
So reading the new Turning Points love it but now makes me want TRO Golden Century any update on it.

No, no updates
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Post by: Weirdo on 29 March 2019, 21:01:42
Looking at the Tinstar...yeowch!

You'd best reach for the sky pardner, because if your hand touches metal...let's just say it has a pretty floral bonnet, and the guns to back it up.
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Post by: Fat Guy on 29 March 2019, 21:09:24
Lot's of fun new 'Mechs in OTP: Tokasha.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Weirdo on 29 March 2019, 21:14:21
Our first units with Improved Standard Weapons!
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Post by: Sartris on 29 March 2019, 21:21:21
that nightstar in fronc  :o

also the pixie is no longer a silhouette  :thumbsup:

Our first units with Improved Standard Weapons!

holy moly! the fox. minsk. the mongoose and lancelot c. an omni corvis?? this is loaded with good stuff. hopefully we'll eventually see some art
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Post by: Colt Ward on 29 March 2019, 21:30:27
Be interesting to see the reasoning of the improved Stds rather than using SL issue.
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Post by: Doom on 29 March 2019, 21:31:23
that nightstar in fronc  :o

Isn't it the same one from Spotlight On: Holt's Hilltoppers?
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Post by: Sartris on 29 March 2019, 21:32:15
Isn't it the same one from Spotlight On: Holt's Hilltoppers?

i forget. it's lethal regardless of how many times you print it
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Post by: Daemion on 30 March 2019, 01:19:54
These are offered in standard Battletech map he sizes, if you need custom sizes there are sites that can do that.

Oh, sure.  I'm aware of Hotzmatz.  But, can they do your specific mat art?  Or, am I left with something more generic?

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Post by: Bosefius on 30 March 2019, 02:41:37
Oh, sure.  I'm aware of Hotzmatz.  But, can they do your specific mat art?  Or, am I left with something more generic?

They would have to do something generic, this is protected work.
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Post by: Jellico on 30 March 2019, 03:39:24
holy moly! the fox. minsk. the mongoose and lancelot c. an omni corvis?? this is loaded with good stuff. hopefully we'll eventually see some art

And early Omnifighters .

Really TP Tokasha is a preview/companion piece for TRO:Golden Century.

Go buy it :D
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Post by: marauder648 on 30 March 2019, 09:26:42
Seyla!

I saw that and was like "GIMME!" before doing a Jaguar esque scream and leap into reading it.  Some VERY interesting Mechs, tanks and fighters, including new stuff we've never ever heard of before. And as you said Jellico a fine preview piece for TRO Golden Century, even if it is a bit of a dance of 1001 veils with how coy and tittilating it is :p 
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Post by: Wrangler on 30 March 2019, 12:04:52
So reading the new Turning Points love it but now makes me want TRO Golden Century any update on it.
Totally agree with you, it's awesome Turning Point, specially extra stuff that came with it.
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Post by: Jellico on 30 March 2019, 12:21:26
Be interesting to see the reasoning of the improved Stds rather than using SL issue.

They are between SL and Clantech.
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Post by: Sartris on 30 March 2019, 12:42:25
They’re clan tech base with some improvements over the IS versions- the improved LRMs, for example, are half the weight like their eventual clan standard versions. The autocannons and large laser are less impressive but still a ton lighter and a crit smaller.
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Post by: Colt Ward on 30 March 2019, 16:17:42
They are between SL and Clantech.

Yes, but if the ranges for a iLL are still 5/10/15, but its a single crit and weights less than the old Large Laser then it becomes a bit of a toss up using the iLL over a Star League ERLL.

I also hope we see a mech mounting a enchanced ERPPC from Wolverine research stocks.
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Post by: Sartris on 30 March 2019, 16:24:32
no, they're not great. the missiles weapons are where you get the big gains. dhs + 4 lrm 20s is suddenly absolutely terrifying.
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Post by: Colt Ward on 30 March 2019, 16:40:03
Yeah, when looking something up I had seen Prototype Clan Streak SRMs- which would have been interesting to see the Diamond Sharks selling to the IS when they started doing that . . . -1 THN?  +4 on the missile hit chart?  Yes please.
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Post by: Deadborder on 30 March 2019, 17:00:18
The Minsk and Fox are very interesting, even if the former is quite ridiculously slow for its weight. The Lancelot C surpised me, if only for being a non-crap variant of that chassis. However, the real winner for me was the Omni-Corvus. I could see how it would be a "transition" from the Corvus to the Ryoken
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Post by: Liam's Ghost on 30 March 2019, 17:07:51
The Minsk and Fox are very interesting, even if the former is quite ridiculously slow for its weight.

Well you see kids, when a Warhammer and a Hammerhands love each other very very much...
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Post by: Deadborder on 30 March 2019, 17:44:41
Well you see kids, when a Warhammer and a Hammerhands love each other very very much...

At least the Hammerhands had Jump Jets
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Post by: Sartris on 30 March 2019, 18:09:31
JJs are a recessive gene.

i wasn't expecting the fox to be a downsized crusader with mostly IS weapons
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Post by: Jellico on 30 March 2019, 19:03:29
Well you see kids, when a Warhammer and a Hammerhands love each other very very much...

In the beginning there was a Tomahawk 😇
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: RifleMech on 30 March 2019, 20:59:35
And early Omnifighters .

Really TP Tokasha is a preview/companion piece for TRO:Golden Century.

Go buy it :D


 :drool: :excited:
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Post by: Foxx Ital on 30 March 2019, 22:45:05
Such a great product. Money well spent, shoulda charged more for all it gives. I pretty much threw my card at it.
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Post by: VhenRa on 31 March 2019, 03:00:23
Can't quite figure out how to make that Tinstar...
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Post by: Deadborder on 31 March 2019, 03:20:55
Also, the Kokou is a nice circular reference to FM:Crusader Clans
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Post by: Hammer on 31 March 2019, 10:15:08
Can't quite figure out how to make that Tinstar...

TinStar errata is up.
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Post by: Sartris on 31 March 2019, 10:52:22
A pity. The first was much more horrifying
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Post by: BigDuke66 on 31 March 2019, 12:52:17
As much as I like details about new product isn't this thread about Upcoming Releases?
Instead page after page updates on shipments(yea thanks for letting me know that YOUR stuff arrive) and discussions about equipment dotted with spoilers.
Can't we just move this to thread for the respective product?
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Post by: Empyrus on 31 March 2019, 16:12:29
As much as I like details about new product isn't this thread about Upcoming Releases?
Instead page after page updates on shipments(yea thanks for letting me know that YOUR stuff arrive) and discussions about equipment dotted with spoilers.
Can't we just move this to thread for the respective product?

Very true, though i gotta say the spoilers are what got me to buy this thing (now, rather than probably much later).

Now i'm really, really waiting for TRO Golden Century...
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 31 March 2019, 16:36:39
Precedent allows for conversation a few days to a week after release. If they really wanted to stop such conversation they’d not put product release announcements in this thread. The mods have steered things back on track if it goes on too long
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Post by: VhenRa on 31 March 2019, 18:23:15
I myself am wondering at the logic of those omnifighters having SHS though....
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Post by: Liam's Ghost on 31 March 2019, 18:47:13
I myself am wondering at the logic of those omnifighters having SHS though....

"In universe" guess: Technical limitations at the time.
"Out of universe" guess: Don't want to have to explain why they don't use them anymore.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Greatclub on 01 April 2019, 00:16:36
Quote
A new series of exclusive Print-on-Demand (POD) sourcebooks will kick off with Capital Punishment, a collection of all Jihad Turning Points involving the Great Houses’ capital worlds.

I'm going to get this, aren't I?

Any way to let me know how and how much it'll be to get?
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Post by: Bosefius on 01 April 2019, 02:20:34
I'm going to get this, aren't I?

Any way to let me know how and how much it'll be to get?

That's unknown at this time.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Tyler Jorgensson on 01 April 2019, 08:31:11
+2 for Fronc and Toshaka PDF's!

Well done on both!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 01 April 2019, 08:45:17
I'm going to get this, aren't I?

Any way to let me know how and how much it'll be to get?

AFAIK that blurb is basically all we know about it. I don’t recall it being acknowledged as a thing anywhere else
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Post by: Cubby on 01 April 2019, 13:17:33
Precedent allows for conversation a few days to a week after release. If they really wanted to stop such conversation they’d not put product release announcements in this thread. The mods have steered things back on track if it goes on too long

So, BigDuke66 is not totally incorrect. I probably should have created a "NEW RELEASE: BattleMats" dedicated thread for discussion of those, just as I've created similar threads for the Winter PDFs as a whole, the boxed sets, etc. That was just an oversight on my part, and my sense is that the BattleMat talk is too interwoven into this thread now to be split off. (A mod is more than free to prove me wrong.)

However, my personal opinion is that there is some leeway and a short window for talking about new releases in this thread, too. We might gently prod it over into the dedicated New Release thread if it goes on too long or gets too in the weeds. But the simple fact is that there are only so many Upcoming Releases to talk about before things get very circular.

Also, I post links to new releases here simply because this thread is by far the most visible in general discussion--there's been 14 of them and they never sink too far, for a reason.

However, I'll now ask that talk about TP: Tokasha, TP: Fronc Reaches, or other chat about the PDF releases head over to the dedicated thread for them here (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=63309.msg1493717#msg1493717).

AFAIK that blurb is basically all we know about it. I don’t recall it being acknowledged as a thing anywhere else

I may need to drop that blurb from the page for now. My previous statements about POD of older, OOP sourcebooks also stands for compilations of PDF-exclusive material: they've been approved as a concept by management--no one is unaware of or against the idea--but there is not currently a plan for making them a reality.
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Post by: Sartris on 01 April 2019, 14:10:29
tbf Capital Punishment sounded like a lot more than a philosophy about content but i get that plans change (or were never that concrete to begin with)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: mbear on 02 April 2019, 07:10:43
To get us sort of back on track, I'm really looking forward to TRO:Golden Century and TRO:IrregularTech. The IrregularTech because I think I could use units listed there in any time frame, and the Golden Century one because I've long been interested in the Star League to Clan "bridge" units.
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Post by: I am Belch II on 02 April 2019, 09:34:12
TROs are always my first purchase. Cant wait for Golden Century.
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Post by: Colt Ward on 02 April 2019, 09:41:27
I keep clicking refresh for the Cubby teased House Arano Table of Contents.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 02 April 2019, 09:58:05
tbf Capital Punishment sounded like a lot more than a philosophy about content but i get that plans change (or were never that concrete to begin with)

That's fair. My own opinion is that there should be a really good plan for doing POD anything--a schedule of releases like we had for the Winter PDFs, and based on some strategic thinking about which products make the most sense, either in terms of potential sales or player need. I'd rather it get back-burnered and eventually done right, than to have random POD products start getting shoved out the airlock just for the sake of existing. But that's me.

I keep clicking refresh for the Cubby teased House Arano Table of Contents.

Spare your F5 key. I'm checking for an update, but my sense is that it won't be this week. ToC spoilers are usually pretty late in the process.
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Post by: Doom on 02 April 2019, 10:14:50
POD Combat Manuals would be awesome if the series could be completed.
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Post by: Bedwyr on 02 April 2019, 11:04:32
So, BigDuke66 is not totally incorrect. I probably should have created a "NEW RELEASE: BattleMats" dedicated thread for discussion of those, just as I've created similar threads for the Winter PDFs as a whole, the boxed sets, etc. That was just an oversight on my part, and my sense is that the BattleMat talk is too interwoven into this thread now to be split off. (A mod is more than free to prove me wrong.)

Just so you guys know, the standing mod position is that Cubby leads the way. He's basically the Emcee and governs the overall direction of the product threads. Otherwise we let the discussion have its ebbs and flows and steer things back when needed. The only thing we're close to zero tolerance on is if you guys continue on a rabbit trail (even if it *is* super funny) after we asked not to. We don't really want to play "do I have to repeat myself" games.
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Post by: Valkerie on 02 April 2019, 22:28:21
Hey Cubby, any chance that fifth battle mat may appear on the CGL store?
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Post by: Wrangler on 03 April 2019, 06:22:57
To get us sort of back on track, I'm really looking forward to TRO:Golden Century and TRO:IrregularTech. The IrregularTech because I think I could use units listed there in any time frame, and the Golden Century one because I've long been interested in the Star League to Clan "bridge" units.
So far TRO:IrregularTech disappeared from any mentioned aside people whom were interested in it. Im not sure were going get it anytime soon. Im just glad some movement going on with Golden Century.
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Post by: Bosefius on 03 April 2019, 08:33:17
Hey Cubby, any chance that fifth battle mat may appear on the CGL store?

It will not be, it's an exclusive at this time.
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Post by: Valkerie on 03 April 2019, 10:05:35
It will not be, it's an exclusive at this time.
Bummer, but thanks for the info. :thumbsup:
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Post by: beachhead1985 on 04 April 2019, 23:38:22
So far TRO:IrregularTech disappeared from any mentioned aside people whom were interested in it. Im not sure were going get it anytime soon. Im just glad some movement going on with Golden Century.

Some of the material purported to be in IrTech has since appeared in other sources, as I am learning.
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Post by: Wrangler on 05 April 2019, 05:56:15
Some of the material purported to be in IrTech has since appeared in other sources, as I am learning.
That's bad...makes me sad. It sounded like it would have been interesting TRO.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 05 April 2019, 08:29:05
For some reason I think TRO IrTech should be filled with 'Mechs made by Irian Technologies.
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Post by: Sartris on 05 April 2019, 08:48:33
XTRO: Manufacturer set in 3150 would make an excellent series
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Post by: roosterboy on 05 April 2019, 09:24:49
Some of the material purported to be in IrTech has since appeared in other sources, as I am learning.

What other sources?
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Post by: Mendrugo on 05 April 2019, 09:37:40
XTRO: Manufacturer set in 3150 would make an excellent series

TRO: Quikscell should come already dog-eared and with the spine cracked, and most of the text looking like it was poorly translated into English from Chinese, to properly reflect the quality of its product line.
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Post by: Sartris on 05 April 2019, 09:38:48
TRO: Quikscell should come already dog-eared and with the spine cracked, and most of the text looking like it was poorly translated into English from Chinese, to properly reflect the quality of its product line.

the fact that it's not on used napkins from a piano bar on Solaris is already a big upgrade for them.
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Post by: LightGuard on 05 April 2019, 10:32:35
TRO: Quikscell should come already dog-eared and with the spine cracked, and most of the text looking like it was poorly translated into English from Chinese, to properly reflect the quality of its product line.
the fact that it's not on used napkins from a piano bar on Solaris is already a big upgrade for them.

It should also include extra pages in a bag...

Anywho, still looking forward to Turning Points: Vega neeeeext week maybe, Cubby? The War of 3039 fascinates me because of how badly it went, despite the successes of the Fed/Com in the 4th.
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Post by: YingJanshi on 05 April 2019, 10:47:19
TRO: Quikscell should come already dog-eared and with the spine cracked, and most of the text looking like it was poorly translated into English from Chinese, to properly reflect the quality of its product line.

And incomprehensible IKEA style assembly instructions...
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Post by: Garrand on 05 April 2019, 10:49:41
And incomprehensible IKEA style assembly instructions...

Count yourself blessed if it even came with assembly instructions at all...

Damon.
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Post by: Sartris on 05 April 2019, 11:21:23
What other sources?

any of these been seen recently?

Sturmvogel Maritime Patrol WiGE
Prime Mover & Wheeled Scout
Haruspex Satellite
Maruhanabachi Carrier Airship
Higgins Landing Craft
Lucius Zhao Escort Carrier
Exo HaulerMech
Guard SecurityMech
Pompier PoliceMech
Gulon SecurityMech
Opossum SalvageMech MOD
Carbine ConstructionMech MOD
Crosscut LoggerMech MOD
Demeter AgroMech MOD
Pacifier SecurityMech
Firebee MilitiaMech
Inquisitor SecurityMech
StrongArm ConstructionMech MOD
Harvester AgroMech MOD
Buster HaulerMech MOD
Centurion MilitiaMech
Heavy Lifter CargoMech MOD
Ground Pound MiningMech MOD
Muckraker MiningMech MOD
St. Florian FireMech MOD
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Post by: beachhead1985 on 06 April 2019, 00:33:05
What other sources?

This came up in my Never-Seen Thread https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=62767.0 (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=62767.0)

Two examples are here; were supposed to be in IrTech, but have instead been written-up in RS;VA http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/7161/carbine-con-7m-constructionmech-mod (http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/7161/carbine-con-7m-constructionmech-mod)http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/7169/crosscut-ed-x4m-loggermech-mod (http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/7169/crosscut-ed-x4m-loggermech-mod)

any of these been seen recently?

Sturmvogel Maritime Patrol WiGE
Prime Mover & Wheeled Scout
Haruspex Satellite
Maruhanabachi Carrier Airship
Higgins Landing Craft
Lucius Zhao Escort Carrier
Exo HaulerMech
Guard SecurityMech
Pompier PoliceMech
Gulon SecurityMech
Opossum SalvageMech MOD
Carbine ConstructionMech MOD
Crosscut LoggerMech MOD
Demeter AgroMech MOD
Pacifier SecurityMech
Firebee MilitiaMech
Inquisitor SecurityMech
StrongArm ConstructionMech MOD
Harvester AgroMech MOD
Buster HaulerMech MOD
Centurion MilitiaMech
Heavy Lifter CargoMech MOD
Ground Pound MiningMech MOD
Muckraker MiningMech MOD
St. Florian FireMech MOD

I haven't had the time to check, but I am finding that many of the MODs are substantiated by multiple variants in various sources. So the Crosscut and the Carbine, we seem to know for sure from the MUL, which is usually considered authoritative, yes? Seems to be specifically the MODs being written-up elsewhere.

I mean; you could always create a TRO entry or another MOD variant and make a record sheet and TRO entry for *that* and I LOVE the weird stuff, but now we're talking about militarized variants of workmechs that already has a recordsheet. In an IP where we have done many TROs that were basically the clip-shows and highlight reels of sourcebooks (and Still VERY well-recieved) I'd never rule it out and I'd love to see IrTech get published (I agree; the shortform makes it seem like this should be Irian-only products), but when some of the content of an unreleased work is getting used in other sources, it makes me doubt it.

However; this may simply be a symptom of an upset release schedule. We were originally to see IrTech ages ago, right? Maybe publising some material in RS:VA was a precursor to aid to that and it just didn't work out and all ist in ordnung?
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Post by: nckestrel on 06 April 2019, 05:52:00
RS:VA IndustrialMechs came out in 2014. The list of units for TR:IrRech was released in 2017.
Either TR IrTech was always intended to collect those two into it, or it has different versions, but RS:VA isn’t a sign that something changed with TR IrTech. Wrong order of events.
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Post by: roosterboy on 06 April 2019, 09:59:57
This came up in my Never-Seen Thread https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=62767.0 (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=62767.0)

You know you can link to individual posts so that we don't have to comb through an 11-page thread looking for your reference, right? Just FYI.

But thanks. So you are referring to just the stats. I wouldn't say they were "written-up" but maybe that's just because I'm a guy who prefers fluff to stats.

And I'm fairly sure that the models in IrTech are different from the ones that have already been published anyway.
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Post by: beachhead1985 on 06 April 2019, 21:12:41
You know you can link to individual posts so that we don't have to comb through an 11-page thread looking for your reference, right? Just FYI.

But thanks. So you are referring to just the stats. I wouldn't say they were "written-up" but maybe that's just because I'm a guy who prefers fluff to stats.

And I'm fairly sure that the models in IrTech are different from the ones that have already been published anyway.

Honestly; those MUL links were the meat of things. I saw that, went back to sarna and saw a few different types of MODs for each WorkMech and I figured the issue to be established.

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Post by: Wrangler on 06 April 2019, 21:22:46
Sarna tries to be accurate about what it reports, citing each entry with where, what page, etc.
I honestly believe that TRO would include all-new stuff verses just rebranding of old ones. 
They more likely brand new MOD and forgotten ones. 

Either case, i'm hoping a new TRO will grace our CGL store and other distributors soon.
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Post by: beachhead1985 on 07 April 2019, 00:17:31
Sarna tries to be accurate about what it reports, citing each entry with where, what page, etc.
I honestly believe that TRO would include all-new stuff verses just rebranding of old ones. 
They more likely brand new MOD and forgotten ones. 

Either case, i'm hoping a new TRO will grace our CGL store and other distributors soon.

I'd love to see it! Those naval units sound especially interesting.
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Post by: Bosefius on 09 April 2019, 13:06:56
The year of Battletech rolls on with the April 15th launch of the first book of the brand new trilogy, "Rogue Academy".

"Iron Dawn", by Jennifer Brozek, releases as an ebook through all of the usual retailers, including our web store. It will also be available as Print on Demand 24-48 hours later (we apologize now for the delay).

"Rogue Academy: Iron Dawn":

In Rogue Academy: Iron Dawn, it’s up to a pair of cadet siblings to stop a renegade Draconis Combine warlord when he decides to claim a piece of the Inner Sphere for himself—starting with Federated Suns’ Emporia. The border planet looks like easy prey. They’re wrong. After the few MechWarriors on the planet are taken hostage, the orphaned cadets of the noble-sponsored Ritza ‘MechWarrior Academy fight like they have nothing to lose.

About Jennifer Brozek: Jennifer Brozek is a multi-talented, award-winning author, editor, and tie-in writer. She is the author of the Never Let Me Sleep, and The Last Days of Salton Academy, both of which were nominated for the Bram Stoker Award. Her BattleTech tie-in novel, The Nellus Academy Incident, won a Scribe Award. Her editing work has netted her a Hugo Award nomination as well as an Australian Shadows Award for Grants Pass. Jennifer’s short form work has appeared in Apex Publications, and in anthologies set in the worlds of Valdemar, Shadowrun, V-Wars, and Predator. Jennifer is also the Creative Director of Apocalypse Ink Productions, and was the managing editor of Evil Girlfriend Media and assistant editor for Apex Book Company.

(https://i.ibb.co/LCH8WDF/Battle-Tech-Iron-Dawn-Kindle.jpg)
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Post by: kinwolf on 09 April 2019, 18:18:49
There are a couple of online stores where I've seenCombat Manual: House Davion on preorder for some time.  Is this really coming out soon?
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Post by: nckestrel on 09 April 2019, 18:46:20
There are a couple of online stores where I've seenCombat Manual: House Davion on preorder for some time.  Is this really coming out soon?

Short answer: No.
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Post by: Sartris on 09 April 2019, 19:14:25
It’s been on preorder in some places since before CM Kurita
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Post by: kinwolf on 09 April 2019, 19:37:46
Thanks
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Post by: Fear Factory on 10 April 2019, 07:54:21
TRO Quickscell would make a nice April Fools joke.
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Post by: marauder648 on 10 April 2019, 07:56:50
The physical copy wouldn't be glued together, it would just come with a big metal clip to hold it together.
And the first six pages are legal disclaimers etc etc.
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Post by: Charlie Tango on 10 April 2019, 07:58:26
It’s been on preorder in some places since before CM Kurita

Which means jack because these stores pull these things from gods-knows-where sometimes when they've not been announced or in some cases, even considered.
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Post by: Sartris on 10 April 2019, 08:55:05
Which means jack because these stores pull these things from gods-knows-where sometimes when they've not been announced or in some cases, even considered.

What I meant was that it’s been “coming soon” for years - ie it’s not coming
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Post by: Empyrus on 10 April 2019, 09:31:35
My LGS still has Clan Expansion Box Set for order ("expected release date about 2010"). Still amuses me. From what i gathered, that thing never got to anywhere near production, or even really getting planned, just an idea floated around.
Also has Shadows of Faith novel. Thought that was only a BattleCorps series that was never quite finished for that matter?


Whatever happened to those novels that got announced few years back by the way? Think there was a Case White novel and something else? All cancelled or fallen into backburner? I mean, i think they were announced before the new line developer.
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Post by: Mendrugo on 10 April 2019, 10:06:22
The Stackpole Kell Hound novellas and the Brozek young adult novels were announced back then as well, and they've just recently come onto the market (or will soon, in the latter case).  The other items on that list may still be in the pipeline.
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Post by: Cubby on 10 April 2019, 10:14:31
Whatever happened to those novels that got announced few years back by the way? Think there was a Case White novel and something else? All cancelled or fallen into backburner? I mean, i think they were announced before the new line developer.

The Case White novel was in progress when Victor Milan died in February 2018. From the obit I wrote at that time (https://bg.battletech.com/news/passing-of-victor-milan/), Fiction Director John Helfers said he intended to assign an author to finish it. Where that falls among the fiction priorities or what its status might be at this time, I don't know.
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Post by: Colt Ward on 10 April 2019, 10:45:53
*sniffles*  My Dinosaur Knights . . .
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Post by: Empyrus on 10 April 2019, 10:51:11
The Case White novel was in progress when Victor Milan died in February 2018. From the obit I wrote at that time (https://bg.battletech.com/news/passing-of-victor-milan/), Fiction Director John Helfers said he intended to assign an author to finish it. Where that falls among the fiction priorities or what its status might be at this time, I don't know.
Oof. RIP. I vaguely recall reading he died but forgot Milan was writing Case White.
So, completely understandable if the novel never even appears. Figure continuing another's book is gonna be a rather difficult task no matter what.

The Stackpole Kell Hound novellas and the Brozek young adult novels were announced back then as well, and they've just recently come onto the market (or will soon, in the latter case).  The other items on that list may still be in the pipeline.
Ah, right, Kell Hound stuff.
What else was on the list?

Need to make a shopping list for all the new fiction i've missed so far (probably pretty much everything since Betrayal of Ideals ebook), buy it all in one go.
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Post by: Sartris on 10 April 2019, 11:43:21
Fiction with the new logo:

Embers of War
Betrayal of Ideals
Forever Faithful
Kell Hounds Trilogy
The Anvil / A Splinter of Hope
Legacy
The Nellus Academy Incident
Iron Dawn

Legends Reprints:
Warrior Trilogy
Decision at Thunder Rift
(Everything but Star Lord & DA novels on kindle)

Will have to check the internet wayback for previously announced but removed items
 
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Post by: Cubby on 10 April 2019, 12:19:25
Betrayal of Ideals ebook

It's available as a Print on Demand volume (https://www.amazon.com/BattleTech-Betrayal-Blaine-Lee-Pardoe/dp/1520399626) as well, ICYMI.

Will have to check the internet wayback for previously announced but removed items

Let me save you the time: the answer for anything you find via that method will be, "If it was removed, it's because it's not currently being worked on."

Please don't make me field a bunch of questions about Shadows of Faith or anything else you're able to dredge up.
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Post by: Sartris on 10 April 2019, 12:28:58
It's available as a Print on Demand volume (https://www.amazon.com/BattleTech-Betrayal-Blaine-Lee-Pardoe/dp/1520399626) as well, ICYMI.

Let me save you the time: the answer for anything you find via that method will be, "If it was removed, it's because it's not currently being worked on."

Please don't make me field a bunch of questions about Shadows of Faith or anything else you're able to dredge up.

Moi? Sir, you... read me like a book  ;D - though i was going to echo the "if you can't see it, it doesn't exist" caveat

I was just going to say that Shadows of Faith (and case white) were the only ones i could find on the fiction end besides the Stackpole Kell Hounds trilogy so there isn't some storehouse of unrealized fiction out there beyond what we already have.

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Post by: Cubby on 10 April 2019, 19:25:01
Two "Legacy" Stories Nominated for Award

We're proud to announce that two stories from the "BattleTech: Legacy" anthology have been nominated for the 2019 Scribe Awards from the International Association of Media Tie-In Writers.

Travis Heermann's "Swords of Light and Darkness" and Craig Reed Jr.'s "End of the Road" are both nominated in the "Short Story" category. Congrats Travis and Craig!

To purchase your own copy of "Legacy" in ePub or Print-on-Demand format, visit http://tinyurl.com/BattleTechLegacy

(https://i.ibb.co/C1S4S1j/Legacy-Cover-Display.jpg) (https://ibb.co/r7XqX7B)
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Post by: ArchonDan on 10 April 2019, 20:13:38
Awesome news! On demand copy ordered!
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Post by: tapdancingbeavers on 11 April 2019, 03:01:17
Is there a way to see what era a particular novel is in?
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Post by: Wrangler on 11 April 2019, 06:00:39
Is there a way to see what era a particular novel is in?
Legacy covers from the Grasshopper's creation when Star League Civil War broke out to the end of the Jihad where it was part of the Stone's Regiment liberating Terra.

Iron Dawn, the other book is during the late Dark Ages (when i can't say precisely), properly late 3140s-early 3150s.
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Post by: Sartris on 11 April 2019, 07:50:24
Is there a way to see what era a particular novel is in?

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/List_of_BattleTech_print_novels

The Lion’s share of the original novels occur in the Clan Invasion and Civil War eras.

The newer fiction is spread around. Embers of War is set in 3067 between the end of the FCCW and beginning of the Jihad. Betrayal of Ideals is during the founding of the clans era in the 29th century during the founding of the clans. Forever faithful is sort of a continuation / postscript of the Twilight of the Clans arc ca 3060
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Post by: Mendrugo on 11 April 2019, 09:09:57
You can find a fairly comprehensive list of what fiction belongs where in the overall timeline here:  https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=25780.0 
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 12 April 2019, 02:48:48
Map Pack: Grasslands is on Asmodee's release list for next week.
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Post by: tapdancingbeavers on 12 April 2019, 05:42:58
Thanks all, I'm more interested in the continuing story.  :)
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Post by: bpardoe870 on 12 April 2019, 15:40:31
Some new fiction that advances the timeline is coming...I swear by the old gods and new. 

Blaine "Buck" Pardoe
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Post by: Orwell84 on 12 April 2019, 17:26:43
Some new fiction that advances the timeline is coming...I swear by the old gods and new. 

Blaine "Buck" Pardoe

If it's even half as good as Forever Faithful, it will be well received. If it actually advances the timeline, a welcome bonus! The 3140s could certainly use more quality fiction for one of BT's most interesting eras IMHO.
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Post by: Tyler Jorgensson on 12 April 2019, 19:18:23
If it's even half as good as Forever Faithful, it will be well received. If it actually advances the timeline, a welcome bonus! The 3140s could certainly use more quality fiction for one of BT's most interesting eras IMHO.

Agreed
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Post by: Cubby on 16 April 2019, 12:32:18
Now Available: "Iron Dawn," Book 1 in the Rogue Academy Trilogy

Now Available in eBook and Print-on-Demand: "Iron Dawn," Book 1 in the Rogue Academy trilogy by Jennifer Brozek!

It’s up to a pair of cadet siblings to stop a renegade Draconis Combine warlord when he decides to claim a piece of the Inner Sphere for himself—starting with Federated Suns’ Emporia.

Print: http://tinyurl.com/BTIronDawnPrint

eBook: http://books2read.com/BattleTechIronDawn

(https://i.ibb.co/Wnjtd6g/Battle-Tech-Iron-Dawn-Kindle-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2qHNLyg)
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Post by: Tyler Jorgensson on 16 April 2019, 14:16:58
More .... paperback.... novels.... must .... acquire.... with limited budget....

Who needs to eat next month anyways?


Oh and if I didn't comment: Splinter of Hope/ Anvil and Forever Faithful were good. Can't wait for more!
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Post by: rebs on 16 April 2019, 15:25:40
Food is overrated. New fiction feeds the mind and soul. 
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Post by: BairdEC on 16 April 2019, 17:09:51
Most of us have enough of a gut that missing a meal or two isn't going to hurt us anyways.
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Post by: Deadborder on 16 April 2019, 17:23:20
Downloading as I type this!
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Post by: Daryk on 16 April 2019, 18:33:15
Darn... looks like it's the wrong era for me... Oh well...
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Post by: Empyrus on 16 April 2019, 19:28:32
What era is that new book set on?
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Post by: Sartris on 16 April 2019, 19:29:10
Dark age
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Post by: Empyrus on 16 April 2019, 19:36:53
Oh, interesting.
To the list of stuff to be bought once i've got enough stuff on the list.
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Post by: Bosefius on 16 April 2019, 21:35:52
What era is that new book set on?

It's post Dark Age, pre-iLClan, roughly 3149-3150
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Post by: Mendrugo on 16 April 2019, 21:47:57
The teaser for the sequel shows it will be post-ilClan, in 3155.  Only Surrender Your Dreams has gone further, with scenes set in 3156.
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Post by: Onion2112 on 16 April 2019, 21:58:45
I took that to be a typo for 3150 since Iron Dawn finishes 8th April 3150 and the sequel is dated 11th April 3155.

Incidentally I noticed in the battletech novel list at the end of the book there’s a new entry  “64. Redemption Rift by Jason Schmetzer” Can’t wait for this one to be released!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 21 April 2019, 16:53:56
My copy of iron dawn arrived today. It’s the same size as the other novels like forever faithful as opposed to the larger nellus academy incident
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Joewrightgm on 23 April 2019, 07:24:49
House Arano book comes out soon; still on track for 4/26 release?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Empyrus on 23 April 2019, 12:41:55
Wonder about the Arano sourcebook as well. I am rather interested in it, especially since the next DLC for the game was announced (Urban Warfare, release date June 4), so it'd be a good time to replay the game soon.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: jimdigris on 23 April 2019, 16:39:51
House Arano book comes out soon; still on track for 4/26 release?
A Catalyst release is never late; It is released exactly when it means to. ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 23 April 2019, 17:04:54
Really want that House Arano book.
I don't know alot about them....but want to.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Liam's Ghost on 23 April 2019, 18:10:01
So my great nephew's due date is the same as the release date for the House Arano book.

Clearly his house has been chosen for him.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 25 April 2019, 04:11:00
My copy of Iron Dawn (and The Nellus Academy Incident, because I hadn't noticed it was out as a POD) arrived today.  Shipping was much cheaper and faster when I realised that Amazon.co.uk also does POD - I defaulted to using the US site for Forever Faithful
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 26 April 2019, 08:59:19
New Release Date for House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition

Please see the message below from Ray Arrastia, BattleTech assistant line developer, regarding a new release date for House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition:

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I would like apologize to the community and beg your patience a little further. We have to postpone the release of House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition until May 31. Key people involved have been tied up getting other projects across the finish line, and we still need a proper buffer before release to allow for testing of the POD system, as this is our first time using it for this type of product.

House Arano: The Aurigan Coaltion is now in editing, with design and layout already started. Turning Points: War of 3039 Vega will be released later today. Next week we’ll show you some previews, along with teasers for the upcoming Alpha Strike Commanders Edition.

Thank you for your patience and continued support.

Ray Arrastia
BattleTech Asst. Line Developer
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 26 April 2019, 09:15:04
New Release Date for House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition

Please see the message below from Ray Arrastia, BattleTech assistant line developer, regarding a new release date for House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition:

NNNNNNNNNNNnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


(https://i.giphy.com/media/ToMjGpx9F5ktZw8qPUQ/giphy.webp)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bedwyr on 26 April 2019, 09:35:35
Dude, May. It's a month. It's ok.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 26 April 2019, 09:39:44
It sucks, I know. I’m sorry.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 26 April 2019, 09:42:54
"when's house arano dropping?"
"keep dividing by two until you hit zero"

condolences to people that are hyped about this. fortunately for me it's largely a curiosity.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 26 April 2019, 09:52:18
It does, and all joking aside its just a month as mentioned but . . . lol, I was looking forward to today all week!  It was going to be one of my high points in a pretty good week- Easter was a great time with family, put the toddler outside nearly all day Sat to his delight.  Some good news at work Monday, interesting weather Tuesday, played some table top yesterday, House Arano was going to be today, and going to see Endgame after dropping the kid with babysitter.

I can wait . . . impatiently maybe, but I can wait.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 26 April 2019, 09:57:46
This is the flipside of not wanting to fall back on the "soon(TM)" answer, and try to assign actual dates to things. Sometimes those dates are missed--but I'd like to think we're getting better about communicating those changes and the reasons for them rather than just letting the missed date fly by with no word.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 26 April 2019, 10:08:02
No, I appreciate the date . . . it lets me plan, in the case of the Arano book, two or three months in advance to put the money in the budget.  Guess we are buying popcorn with Endgame!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 26 April 2019, 10:08:48
Oh, I can wait...I'm hyped is all :D

I was up and had gone to the Catalyst store thinking OK, should be available now...and then saw the message. so..:D
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 26 April 2019, 10:11:01
No, I appreciate the date . . . it lets me plan, in the case of the Arano book, two or three months in advance to put the money in the budget.  Guess we are buying popcorn with Endgame!

Guess I'll have to get one of these to fill the void...

https://shop.lego.com/en-CA/product/Tantive-IV-75244?CMP=EMC-VIP2019_04_26_Mt4_Teaser_EN_CA&HQS=50_A_CTA_NA_EN&RRID=38953214&RMID=VIP_2019_04_26_Mt4_Teaser_NA

Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: marauder648 on 26 April 2019, 11:37:21
oh well, a minor delay and not the end of the world :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Frabby on 26 April 2019, 12:43:33
It sucks, I know. I’m sorry.
Just make it worth the wait.  ;)
Actually, since I'm currently snowed under with work and deadlines I'm happy that it'll be another month at least before I compulsively have to go on a data mining/factchecking binge again.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 26 April 2019, 13:09:46
Guess I'll have to get one of these to fill the void...

https://shop.lego.com/en-CA/product/Tantive-IV-75244?CMP=EMC-VIP2019_04_26_Mt4_Teaser_EN_CA&HQS=50_A_CTA_NA_EN&RRID=38953214&RMID=VIP_2019_04_26_Mt4_Teaser_NA

Why does that come with an extra pair of pants?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 26 April 2019, 13:14:01
leia has the option to shoot stormtroopers in either formal or casual attire
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wildonion on 26 April 2019, 14:41:56
It isn't so much the delay for House Arano that kills me, though I will absolutely admit that I am already bummed because this happened once already. It is learning about it on the day that it was supposed to drop. Had I known a week ago, I don't think the delay would sting quite so much. I understand that the product will be better for a the postponement, just like with most video games and especially when CGL is experimenting with POD, but this really sucks. I spent all morning in meetings, thinking about the new book. Real bummer.  :'(
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 26 April 2019, 15:00:16
Why does that come with an extra pair of pants?

I want to know if he asked that when he buys everything.

Yeah, we were talking about the Arano book last night during our table top session- so I guess its good the anticipation is there for both CGL and HBS.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bosefius on 26 April 2019, 17:40:32
Now Available - Turning Points: War of 3039 Vega!

The wait is over as the Federated Commonwealth hammer falls upon the Draconis Combine. The War of 3039’s Commonwealth Thrust focuses on Vega, a world of burning sands, blazing sun, and the ruins of ancient Star League technology. A combined force of Steiner, Davion, and mercenary units showcases the massive alliance and technology of the Federated Commonwealth. The Combine defense, led by the Legions of Vega, is determined to justify the reforms and faith of the Coordinator. They will not surrender their homeworld easily.

Buy now ($5.99) at the Catalyst Game Labs online store. (https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/turning-points-war-of-3039-vega)

Discuss this new product here! (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=65209.0)

(https://i.ibb.co/CV4q4qY/Turning-Points3039-Vega.png) (https://ibb.co/bNYxYxC)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 26 April 2019, 18:52:59
leia has the option to shoot stormtroopers in either formal or casual attire

basically, it's pants or dress.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 26 April 2019, 21:34:03
More new stuff is a good thing.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Two Guns Blazing on 26 April 2019, 23:58:37
I'm really very much looking forward to seeing the previews and teasers for Alpha Strike Commander's Edition next week!!!

Quote
Next week we’ll show you some previews, along with teasers for the upcoming Alpha Strike Commanders Edition.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Phaedros on 27 April 2019, 00:15:08
I'm really very much looking forward to seeing the previews and teasers for Alpha Strike Commander's Edition next week!!!

Yeah, ASCE teasers are what have me hyped right now. Also still curious about the Aurigans too ofc.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Fat Guy on 27 April 2019, 12:40:08
Finally a sheet for the ALAG Panther!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Elmoth on 27 April 2019, 13:03:27
Hopefully we will get an alpha strike profile as well
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: nckestrel on 27 April 2019, 13:10:28
Hopefully we will get an alpha strike profile as well

P54 of Combat Manual Kurita.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Fat Guy on 27 April 2019, 15:31:22
Hopefully we will get an alpha strike profile as well


Alpha Strike card as well.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: SteveRestless on 27 April 2019, 16:07:21
It's not a book I've been waiting for, but damn if the "well, we had to push the release back, here's why, here's when we think it's coming out instead" format isn't something I've been wishing for my entire time as a Battletech fan.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: mikecj on 27 April 2019, 16:32:29
The Vega book is pretty good!  I loved the opening fiction.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: ChrystalNiNja88 on 28 April 2019, 11:39:38
Any murmurings on ilClan? Can't remember if a time frame was given.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bedwyr on 28 April 2019, 11:57:22
Any murmurings on ilClan? Can't remember if a time frame was given.

Nothing yet, really.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 28 April 2019, 12:13:52
Any murmurings on ilClan? Can't remember if a time frame was given.

Gencon this year at the earliest was last summer’s timeframe given after shattered fortress dropped
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 28 April 2019, 14:33:17
Hope rest of the IlClan thing comes out this summer.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 28 April 2019, 16:50:22
The talk of the IlClan is again!!!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 28 April 2019, 18:53:39
It's coming product. i'm not discussing the content.  I just hope we get name for the thing soon.  ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: YingJanshi on 28 April 2019, 20:10:08
Being reading the new Vega TP, it's a pretty good read. I have to say, I LOVE how they've incorporated Total Warfare and Alpha Strike rules into each track. I hope future scenario products keep that format. Makes things a lot easier.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 28 April 2019, 20:37:05
I for sure. The last batch of turning points have been a real step up in the potential of the format
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Two Guns Blazing on 01 May 2019, 05:57:32
Is there a usual day of the week these kinds of things are released?

Quote
Next week we’ll show you some previews, along with teasers for the upcoming Alpha Strike Commanders Edition.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 01 May 2019, 07:35:59
Is there a usual day of the week these kinds of things are released?
Not really. There reasons why they dont publish the release dates.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Two Guns Blazing on 01 May 2019, 08:01:34
Not really. There reasons why they dont publish the release dates.

Thank you...I feel I have potentially caused a misunderstanding by not adequately framing my question...what I meant was...is there a usual day of the week when they release previews and teasers, not is there a usual date for when they release new products for purchase, which is what I think you thought I meant, which was my fault.
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Post by: Sartris on 01 May 2019, 08:04:15
also no
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Charlie Tango on 01 May 2019, 08:06:23
Thank you...I feel I have potentially caused a misunderstanding by not adequately framing my question...what I meant was...is there a usual day of the week when they release previews and teasers, not is there a usual date for when they release new products for purchase, which is what I think you thought I meant, which was my fault.

No,  they release preview information when everything has been checked off to make it available,  there isn't a set release schedule.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Two Guns Blazing on 01 May 2019, 10:43:02
Thanks guys :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 01 May 2019, 10:46:18
Yeah, its not like 'new DVDs released on Tuesday, and new movies typically on Fridays.'
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 01 May 2019, 12:25:54
Thank you...I feel I have potentially caused a misunderstanding by not adequately framing my question...what I meant was...is there a usual day of the week when they release previews and teasers, not is there a usual date for when they release new products for purchase, which is what I think you thought I meant, which was my fault.

This last wave of mini-PDFs were targeted for Friday afternoons, though the exact hour varied. We slipped weeks on a couple, but with one exception I think they were all on Fridays.

I generally try to target announcements of new product to Wednesdays or Fridays, though needs occasionally vary.

But yes, teasers and other content are posted when they're ready and as time in our schedules allows.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Joewrightgm on 01 May 2019, 19:52:09
Question I haven’t thought about; why do you guys not offer preorders through the catalyst website? I always wondered about why
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Two Guns Blazing on 01 May 2019, 20:27:46
This last wave of mini-PDFs were targeted for Friday afternoons, though the exact hour varied. We slipped weeks on a couple, but with one exception I think they were all on Fridays.

I generally try to target announcements of new product to Wednesdays or Fridays, though needs occasionally vary.

But yes, teasers and other content are posted when they're ready and as time in our schedules allows.

Thanks Cubby, much appreciated :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Two Guns Blazing on 01 May 2019, 20:29:45
Question I haven’t thought about; why do you guys not offer preorders through the catalyst website? I always wondered about gay.

The last part of your sentence is ripe for a humorous reply :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 02 May 2019, 05:21:48
The last part of your sentence is ripe for a humorous reply :)

Kit must have been locked in a closet by the mods, bound and gagged.

Question I haven’t thought about; why do you guys not offer preorders through the catalyst website? I always wondered about that.

Tl;dr - We used to. But it’s better to rap out consistent singles than to whiff trying to hit homeruns.

This slightly pre-dates me, but my understanding is that they became problematic, primarily in fulfillment. The old build of the store was not good at handling those types of orders.

For example, the PDF version would generally be released ahead of the print book. If you ordered the PDF/Book Combo, what was supposed to happen was you’d get the PDF now and the book would be pre-ordered and delivered when in stock at the fulfillment center. What was happening (again, my understanding, I wasn’t in the loop then) was that the store was delivering the PDF and marking the whole order fulfilled, so people never saw the book. Even just pre-ordering the book alone didn’t always work. Compounding the issue was that the company did not always have someone on hand to do customer service and rectify these issues in a timely manner.

The new store certainly has the functionality, but there would still be real-world fulfillment issues to navigate. As it is, the current store manages to mostly fulfill and deliver orders for in-stock product with far fewer glitches than the old, and with minimal staff time tied up to fix errors.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Joewrightgm on 02 May 2019, 06:21:47
1) apologies for my autocorrect , terribly embarrassing 2) thanks cubby for the straightforward answer!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 02 May 2019, 07:49:21
Kit must have been locked in a closet by the mods, bound and gagged.


I don't follow basketball enough to offer an informed opinion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Gay).
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Spaceman on 02 May 2019, 10:24:55
At the bottom of the ShadowRun email yesterday it looks like a new BT shirt was released.

https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-red-duke-solaris-fashion-t-shirt (https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-red-duke-solaris-fashion-t-shirt)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 02 May 2019, 10:30:35
That's NICEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Weirdo on 02 May 2019, 11:05:35
Well, crap. They've figured out Rule #1 of Getting Weirdo's Money: Put a Marauder on it.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Alexander Knight on 02 May 2019, 14:25:37
Well, crap. They've figured out Rule #1 of Getting Weirdo's Money: Put a Marauder on it.

Is Rule #2 "Put more Marauders on it"?  Or is it "Put some infantry doing shenanigans on it"?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Ruger on 02 May 2019, 14:46:30
Is Rule #2 "Put more Marauders on it"?  Or is it "Put some infantry doing shenanigans on it"?

WarShips have to have their own rule in there somewhere.

Ruger
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 02 May 2019, 15:34:57
Well, crap. They've figured out Rule #1 of Getting Weirdo's Money: Put a Marauder on it.

just for you ;)

(https://i.imgur.com/Ktqk2R9l.png)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: dgorsman on 02 May 2019, 15:40:46
OMG... that would have made a perfect April fools day item on the CGL store.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 02 May 2019, 20:22:28
I would be OK with that book.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 02 May 2019, 21:53:54
Weirdo, the original MAD lad.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sapphirus on 02 May 2019, 22:24:06
At the bottom of the ShadowRun email yesterday it looks like a new BT shirt was released.

https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-red-duke-solaris-fashion-t-shirt (https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-red-duke-solaris-fashion-t-shirt)
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa'?!?!?
  :drool:
(Sorry for the Marquee)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bedwyr on 03 May 2019, 06:06:23
I would be OK with that book.

OK ok ok. How about... <spreads arms> a coloring book without the lines. Yeah? Yeah? Feelin it?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 03 May 2019, 10:44:15
Red Duke T-Shirt Now Available!

ICYMI:  This colorful new t-shirt featuring the Red Duke in his iconic Marauder is now available in the Catalyst web store! tinyurl.com/RedDukeBT  (http://tinyurl.com/RedDukeBT)

(https://i.ibb.co/bdWQQMj/TC1693-FB-ATPP-front-720x.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Ky0bbpc)  (https://i.ibb.co/J35C06k/TC1693-FB-ATPP-back-720x.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3RBkG6h)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 03 May 2019, 10:50:09
Is the pictures Front Vs Back or two different styles?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sharpnel on 03 May 2019, 11:37:56
It appears to front&back as the neckline is lower on the red Maddy side.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 03 May 2019, 11:39:46
It's what I'm thinking too, but would be nice to know
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bosefius on 03 May 2019, 12:49:07
Is the pictures Front Vs Back or two different styles?

It's front vs back, there's only one shirt offered at the link.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 03 May 2019, 12:57:12
It's front vs back, there's only one shirt offered at the link.

Well, it could be reversible. That'd be different....
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 03 May 2019, 13:26:11
It's front vs back, there's only one shirt offered at the link.

True...but nothing wrong with a question to verify ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 03 May 2019, 21:10:28
Sneak Previews 5/3/19  - Alpha Strike: Commander's Edition and House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition

Ready for a sneak peek? We've got an inside look at two eagerly-anticipated upcoming BattleTech products, Alpha Strike: Commander's Edition and House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition. Take a look!

Alpha Strike: Commander's Edition

Table of Contents

(https://i.ibb.co/3zdCchr/Table-of-Contents-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0t2GrJD) (https://i.ibb.co/MRGMgRj/Table-of-Contents-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4jYPFjD) (https://i.ibb.co/3TTv4Mg/Table-of-Contents-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dfftjL8)

Introduction

(https://i.ibb.co/S5TMDMw/Introduction-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WG9MNMv) (https://i.ibb.co/tBtBvRH/Introduction-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/G7L78md) (https://i.ibb.co/S3dg3pW/Introduction-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fxnWx7B)


House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition

(https://i.ibb.co/26CjmX0/HB-Arano-Sampling-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Dbv7s3P) (https://i.ibb.co/z496zqf/HB-Arano-Sampling-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/x79FNx5)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: SteelRaven on 03 May 2019, 21:27:18
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/d341aef7099d4faed4a4da0cd58a7dd0/tenor.gif?itemid=4939368)
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Post by: rebs on 03 May 2019, 21:32:38
Love the artwork style.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 03 May 2019, 21:32:51
Looking great can't wait.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Charlie Tango on 03 May 2019, 21:35:57
<sees Commander's Edition>


Gimme...  Gimme gimme gimme...
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Two Guns Blazing on 03 May 2019, 21:40:35
These both look fantastic, smoking hot...I'm REALLY looking forward to getting my hands on the ASCE book and PDF...that book is going to be so hot I've pre-booked myself into the Burns Ward at the local hospital!
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Post by: Colt Ward on 03 May 2019, 22:34:29
Yeah, Arano looks great.  I know what I am reading over Memorial Day weekend.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Orwell84 on 03 May 2019, 22:57:18
House Arano looks like it'll be worth the wait. Glad to see some Polynesian influence somewhere in the BT universe as well.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Kojak on 03 May 2019, 23:39:03
Has the Commander's Edition been previewed elsewhere? I can't recall hearing about this before and it's not entirely clear to me what the actual product is.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 04 May 2019, 00:10:24
Has the Commander's Edition been previewed elsewhere? I can't recall hearing about this before and it's not entirely clear to me what the actual product is.

just the cover. it seems to be a melding of AS and ASC (with not insignificant changes) so they only have to print one book
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Scotty on 04 May 2019, 00:13:34
just the cover. it seems to be a melding of AS and ASC (with not insignificant changes) so they only have to print one book

It includes all to date errata plus some other changes both minor and major,  is much easier to reference, and is laid out significantly better.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Paul on 04 May 2019, 00:17:13
It includes all to date errata plus some other changes both minor and major,  is much easier to reference, and is laid out significantly better.

This.
If you are at all interested in Alpha Strike, this book is for you.
And even if you're already deep in, you seriously should consider getting it, as it's massively superior to having AS+ASC.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Empyrus on 04 May 2019, 03:24:54
So, Commander's Edition is like BattleMech Manual for Alpha Strike?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Weirdo on 04 May 2019, 08:39:41
Kinda, except better. Unlike BMM, it doesn't leave out the really interesting stuff. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 04 May 2019, 10:50:58
Are capital ships aka warships related stuff included with this book?
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 04 May 2019, 10:58:23
No.
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Post by: YingJanshi on 04 May 2019, 11:00:01
Looking forward to reading House Arano. I love how it mirrors the look of the original House Books, (the border at the top specifically).
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Weirdo on 04 May 2019, 11:05:40
Kinda, except better. Unlike BMM, it doesn't leave out the really interesting stuff. :thumbsup:

No.

Correction: It doesn't leave out all of the really interesting stuff.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Scotty on 04 May 2019, 11:32:49
Correction: It doesn't leave out all of the really interesting stuff.

Warships in Alpha Strike weren't one of the parts of it I'd call interesting. :-X  They're just a wee bit too big and complicated for the conversions to play nice when the basic unit is still "one 'Mech".
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Post by: Weirdo on 04 May 2019, 11:40:39
To each their own.
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Post by: Elmoth on 04 May 2019, 11:46:55
Now, converting warships to use mech rules in order to have major fleet engagements. We are talking here!
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Post by: Sartris on 04 May 2019, 11:51:04
Now, converting warships to use mech rules in order to have major fleet engagements. We are talking here!

ngl this would probably get me to buy some warship minis
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Scotty on 04 May 2019, 11:57:12
How is that different than the space section of Total Warfare?  ???  Warships already fire weapons in bays at a time against ~six hit locations that take 2-6 hits to get through armor.
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Post by: Sartris on 04 May 2019, 12:01:17
i'll admit i've never looked closely at those rules - could you get an entire squadron on one piece of paper in TW?
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Post by: Weirdo on 04 May 2019, 12:36:44
No, but in Battleforce you can do it if you print on both sides of the sheet.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: ActionButler on 04 May 2019, 12:37:55
So, for the Commanders Edition... if I bought the new book, then got rid of my AS rulebook and my AS Companion, would I be losing anything other than warships?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 04 May 2019, 12:46:22
No, but in Battleforce you can do it if you print on both sides of the sheet.

I might have known that if I didn’t often forget battleforce exists
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: nckestrel on 04 May 2019, 13:54:54
So, for the Commanders Edition... if I bought the new book, then got rid of my AS rulebook and my AS Companion, would I be losing anything other than warships?

Warships, quirks, conversions and PV calculations are not in ASCe.    The Table of Contents was posted on Facebook.  It would be more specific than me.
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Post by: Weirdo on 04 May 2019, 14:44:31
Was that the entire ToC? I'm really surprised by the lack of conversion and PV rules.
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Post by: Alexander Knight on 04 May 2019, 15:37:51
Was that the entire ToC? I'm really surprised by the lack of conversion and PV rules.

Space considerations, I already asked.   :'(
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: nckestrel on 04 May 2019, 15:55:38
The emphasis is on what’s needed to play tie game.  The PV and conversion rules will presumably be a later PDF. Presumably as in there is agreement that is how it would be done, but not something we are actively working in yet.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 04 May 2019, 17:18:40
So the Commander's Edition is essentially the BattleMech Manuel for AS?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Scotty on 04 May 2019, 17:21:09
So the Commander's Edition is essentially the BattleMech Manuel for AS?

It's visually similar, but includes everything to run 'Mechs, vehicles, infantry, battle armor, protomechs, conventional fighters, aerospace fighters, dropships, support vehicles, and mobile structures, plus a bunch of optional rules and advanced terrain types, then three chapters on how to build a force, how to give that force special abilities, and basic scenarios.  So not really, no, but it's a good book.
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Post by: I am Belch II on 04 May 2019, 19:15:21
So is it a new book or just a update.
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Post by: Weirdo on 04 May 2019, 19:28:23
Think of it as the Captain Planet of updates. It'll be more powerful than AS and ASC were on their own, and on top of that there will be magnificent hair and no pants.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 04 May 2019, 23:40:47
Think of it as the Captain Planet of updates. It'll be more powerful than AS and ASC were on their own, and on top of that there will be magnificent hair and no pants.
Just how magnificent are we talking here, something on this (http://www.gearsonline.net/series/fivestarstories/characters/images/spaccorn1.jpg) or even this (http://www.gearsonline.net/series/fivestarstories/characters/images/aisha1.jpg) level?

I noticed the formation building rules, will these have any notes or suggestions on factional flavor since the Combat Manuals are canceled?  I'm not asking for super-in-depth stuff, but just if it's pure vanilla or has some sprinkles on it.
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Post by: Weirdo on 04 May 2019, 23:51:20
I actually have no inside knowledge, everything I know about this book had come from this forum. But my gods, that's some hair. I can't promise it'll be on that level, I'm personally hoping for some gritty flock of seagulls with 80s short shorts.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Scotty on 05 May 2019, 00:19:48
Just how magnificent are we talking here, something on this (http://www.gearsonline.net/series/fivestarstories/characters/images/spaccorn1.jpg) or even this (http://www.gearsonline.net/series/fivestarstories/characters/images/aisha1.jpg) level?

I noticed the formation building rules, will these have any notes or suggestions on factional flavor since the Combat Manuals are canceled?  I'm not asking for super-in-depth stuff, but just if it's pure vanilla or has some sprinkles on it.

I think it mentions the MUL a couple times, but the formation building rules are largely the same as from the Companion, along with some minor rebalancing of the various Lances (and a couple new ones under "Combined Infantry and Transport Formations" :thumbsup:).  There's also a much better explanation of how to use Special Command Abilities for your entire force.  That part is very similar to the Combat Manuals, though it doesn't come with examples; more it's how those abilities are governed.

Following the steps under "Force Building" will let you build your own units that would not have looked out of place on a Combat Manual page.
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Post by: marauder648 on 05 May 2019, 01:16:50
Dese books!

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Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 05 May 2019, 06:16:17
Think of it as the Captain Planet of updates. It'll be more powerful than AS and ASC were on their own, and on top of that there will be magnificent hair and no pants.

Thanks for the update.
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Post by: wolfspider on 05 May 2019, 19:43:18
Looking at the contents it looks like no quirks  :(
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Post by: Fat Guy on 05 May 2019, 20:30:40
I'm liking that you're using HBS artwork for the House Arano sourcebook.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Joewrightgm on 06 May 2019, 15:50:54
Will the Arano book cover just after the Arano restoration, or will it cover the units/characters that’s participated in the restoration itself, on both sides of the civil war?
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 06 May 2019, 21:02:46
After.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: ActionButler on 07 May 2019, 09:04:42
Warships, quirks, conversions and PV calculations are not in ASCe.    The Table of Contents was posted on Facebook.  It would be more specific than me.

Warships, conversions, and PV I can do without, but I'm pretty sad to see that quirks didn't make the final cut. But, hey, space considerations do that, yeah?
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Post by: sadlerbw on 07 May 2019, 13:56:36
I'm actually EXCITED that the conversion rules will not be in print in this book. I've always been a fan of keeping those electronic so they can be more easily updated if need be.

Warships...I won't go into it, but I have no problem with them being left out.

Quirks I'm waffling on. They are certainly interesting, but hardly necessary and not particularly helpful for game balance. There was a decent amount of work invested in them, but I am a proponent of limiting 'optional' rules in AS so I can't really complain much about leaving them out.
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Post by: wolfspider on 07 May 2019, 14:05:36

Quirks I'm waffling on. They are certainly interesting, but hardly necessary and not particularly helpful for game balance. There was a decent amount of work invested in them, but I am a proponent of limiting 'optional' rules in AS so I can't really complain much about leaving them out.
Using the Quirks gave the mechs flavor so they will be missed  :(
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Post by: Wrangler on 07 May 2019, 19:09:29
I do have problems with Warships being left out and possibly removed.
However, this isn't place for it that kind discussion.  I'm minority in liking all type Battletech Units equally,

I'm looking forward to the House Arano coming out among other things.

I'm curious about Touring the Stars: Gulf Breeze, if there will be big space station or something in it.
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Post by: rebs on 07 May 2019, 19:18:32
I'm curious about Touring the Stars: Gulf Breeze, if there will be big space station or something in it.

Same here.  The Touring the Stars series is always intetesting.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: PyreLight on 08 May 2019, 17:41:30
The Battle map / mat is already sold out. Any chance for a re-stock? Or alternative place to get it from?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sellsword on 10 May 2019, 13:13:13
I think it mentions the MUL a couple times, but the formation building rules are largely the same as from the Companion, along with some minor rebalancing of the various Lances (and a couple new ones under "Combined Infantry and Transport Formations" :thumbsup:).  There's also a much better explanation of how to use Special Command Abilities for your entire force.  That part is very similar to the Combat Manuals, though it doesn't come with examples; more it's how those abilities are governed.

Following the steps under "Force Building" will let you build your own units that would not have looked out of place on a Combat Manual page.

So in order to use the Commanders edition I have to use the MUL.  There is no way to convert from Classic to Alpha.  Is this correct?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Scotty on 10 May 2019, 13:18:24
No, it's not correct.  The conversion rules in the Companion aren't changing, but they are being left out of the Commander's Edition for both space and availability considerations.

You are no more required to use the MUL with the Commander's Edition than when Alpha Strike first came out: it's really damn convenient if you do, but barring a few pieces of errata/updates to correct mistakes your cards all still work.
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Post by: Sellsword on 10 May 2019, 14:34:47
No, it's not correct.  The conversion rules in the Companion aren't changing, but they are being left out of the Commander's Edition for both space and availability considerations.

You are no more required to use the MUL with the Commander's Edition than when Alpha Strike first came out: it's really damn convenient if you do, but barring a few pieces of errata/updates to correct mistakes your cards all still work.

OK.  The Companion has the conversion rules.  So if I want to make custom Mechs to convert to Alpha strike then I either have to buy the older companion book or wait until the PDF with the conversion rules appear. 
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Post by: Scotty on 10 May 2019, 14:58:21
OK.  The Companion has the conversion rules.  So if I want to make custom Mechs to convert to Alpha strike then I either have to buy the older companion book or wait until the PDF with the conversion rules appear.

For the moment, yes.  I'm sure if you'd prefer to do neither of those things that someone would be willing to help you do that in the meantime.
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Post by: Alexander Knight on 10 May 2019, 15:10:51
For the moment, yes.  I'm sure if you'd prefer to do neither of those things that someone would be willing to help you do that in the meantime.

Razzen frazzen....I mean, sure, I could do that.   ;)
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Post by: Bosefius on 10 May 2019, 20:16:30
The Battle map / mat is already sold out. Any chance for a re-stock? Or alternative place to get it from?

Hi, they are a Catalyst Store exclusive and they are being reordered, with a larger run.
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Post by: Fat Guy on 10 May 2019, 22:22:28
Any chance the 5th one will go up for sale on the CGL online store?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 13 May 2019, 08:50:09
Any chance the 5th one will go up for sale on the CGL online store?

For the time being, it's available only as an agent exclusive OR for purchase a major convention when you buy the other four BattleMats at the same time. Future availability has not been determined.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Leftovernoodles on 14 May 2019, 18:22:11
For the time being, it's available only as an agent exclusive OR for purchase a major convention when you buy the other four BattleMats at the same time. Future availability has not been determined.

Sadness!  I purchased 4 Mats at the same time on the website!  Let me throw more money at you!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Fat Guy on 14 May 2019, 22:16:16
For the time being, it's available only as an agent exclusive OR for purchase a major convention when you buy the other four BattleMats at the same time. Future availability has not been determined.


(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/264/241/9e9.gif)
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Post by: Sartris on 14 May 2019, 22:54:10
Sadness!  I purchased 4 Mats at the same time on the website!  Let me throw more money at you!

i too bought all four from the store. pity i'll probably never make it to a con.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bosefius on 17 May 2019, 17:47:10
Time for another Alpha Strike Commander's Edition preview.

Today, S.A.T.O.R.

'The ASCE has reorganized the way the rules are presented to mirror the BattleMech Manual, so that it's both a better tool for beginners to learn from, and a quick and easy reference for veterans.'

(https://i.ibb.co/YLrCd3t/0001.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FDPrYKB)
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Post by: Pat Payne on 17 May 2019, 17:52:03
I'm fascinated with this JMPS and JMPW mechanic mentioned in the preview page. I like the idea of mirroring the fact that all jump jets are not made equal. If it's something that can be talked about, how do the specials get added to specific 'mechs? Are they codified quirks for certain models whose fluff mentions particularly good or poor jets, or are they based on the sheer number of jets the 'mech carries or some other metric?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bosefius on 17 May 2019, 17:55:09
I'm fascinated with this JMPS and JMPW mechanic mentioned in the preview page. I like the idea of mirroring the fact that all jump jets are not made equal. If it's something that can be talked about, how do the specials get added to specific 'mechs? Are they codified quirks for certain models whose fluff mentions particularly good or poor jets, or are they based on the sheer number of jets the 'mech carries or some other metric?

It will be detailed in the book, I'm not sure if they're prepared to discuss it yet.
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Post by: Scotty on 17 May 2019, 17:57:44
It's basically a reminder to calculate jump TMM based on available jump movement and not on the card-printed TMM (and then also helps calculate it for you).  Most Jenners, for example, will have JMPW because it mounts few enough jump jets that it doesn't have a +4 jumping TMM.  Mechs like the Gyrfalcon or Uziel 8S have JMPS, because their jump jets are enough to get to TMM+2 not just TMM+1.

EDIT: Rather, JMPS and JMPW will *tell* you when to improve or reduce the jump TMM (beyond the normal +1 for jumping) based on more/fewer than walking speed jumpjets.

This was the more elegant way to do it than rework the MUL to generate cards with "X/Y" printed TMMs.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Scotty on 17 May 2019, 18:07:46
It will be detailed in the book, I'm not sure if they're prepared to discuss it yet.

Heh, whoops.

The exact wording of it will definitely be in the book,  mine is a hastily-remembered babbling about it, but that's the basic idea.
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Post by: Spaceman on 17 May 2019, 19:02:58
Ok so I didn't read that correctly. I figure it out. Nice preview.
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Post by: Two Guns Blazing on 17 May 2019, 21:29:22
Thanks for the new preview guys, very interesting and I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on this book :)
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Post by: I am Belch II on 17 May 2019, 22:00:32
Looking like a neat book.
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Post by: Cubby on 24 May 2019, 18:16:07
House Arano Preview!

House Arano was sent to Print on Demand proofing today so we wanted to share the Table of Contents and a few other pages! Thank you for your patience as we worked to ensure another high-quality product.

In the coming days, we'll do our best to provide updates about the Print on Demand process, leading up to the book's on-sale date. This is the first time we've tried publishing a sourcebook in this manner, so in the spirit of transparency we hope to stay in touch about how the process plays out.

For now, take a look at these pages for a glimpse of what's coming!

(https://i.ibb.co/h2r8cPz/0001.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qmh1CtQ) (https://i.ibb.co/hcMxqfh/0004.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bF3jfJq) (https://i.ibb.co/6bgSb5V/0002.jpg) (https://ibb.co/P4wy483) (https://i.ibb.co/BTJn1vt/0003.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HGyhJRV)
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Post by: Weirdo on 24 May 2019, 18:22:43
Pretty lady, new unit, scenarios, record sheets...I'm convinced!
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Post by: LastChanceCav on 24 May 2019, 18:46:59
I'm  excited to see a fresh new part of the inner sphere, learn about its people ... and plot its conquest ;) The preview art is gorgeous and love the FASA era throwback credits page.

Cheers,
LCC
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Post by: YingJanshi on 24 May 2019, 18:47:35
Just saw this pop up on Catalyst's Instagram...

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bx3SmV6h7x-/?igshid=191r20eoopifa (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bx3SmV6h7x-/?igshid=191r20eoopifa)


[EDIT: Just looked at the ToC...we're getting a RS for the Argo?  :o  I gotta see this.  8) ]
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Post by: I am Belch II on 24 May 2019, 19:03:43
Looks really good, can't wait for it.
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Post by: Two Guns Blazing on 24 May 2019, 19:40:04
Just saw this pop up on Catalyst's Instagram...

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bx3SmV6h7x-/?igshid=191r20eoopifa (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bx3SmV6h7x-/?igshid=191r20eoopifa)

Very cool, I'm really looking forward to ASCE,...what Mech is that on the front cover, I can't make it out...also, is that a hard copy re-print of the Tech Manual, that's mine as well???
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Post by: Luciora on 24 May 2019, 19:41:55
Looks like a Thunderbolt losing an arm.

Very cool, I'm really looking forward to ASCE,...what Mech is that on the front cover, I can't make it out...also, is that a hard copy re-print of the Tech Manual, that's mine as well???
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Post by: Two Guns Blazing on 24 May 2019, 19:45:52
Looks like a Thunderbolt losing an arm.

Yeah, I think you might be right, it seems torso twisted to the right...maybe???
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Post by: Wrangler on 24 May 2019, 20:01:34
Looking forward to  House Arano! The swag looks good to.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 24 May 2019, 20:42:08
Looks like a Thunderbolt losing an arm.
Damn machine gun ammo!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: SCC on 24 May 2019, 21:24:34
How interested are people in the Spotlight series? I ask because I've realized that if and when we jump ahead to 3250, most, if not all, of the units that exist now and are getting Spotlights are going to be gone. Or at the very least their current line-ups will be gone, possibly replaced be a new group calling them selves the same thing, but with no connection to the original group.
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Post by: YingJanshi on 24 May 2019, 22:50:04
How interested are people in the Spotlight series? I ask because I've realized that if and when we jump ahead to 3250, most, if not all, of the units that exist now and are getting Spotlights are going to be gone. Or at the very least their current line-ups will be gone, possibly replaced be a new group calling them selves the same thing, but with no connection to the original group.

Sounds like the Spotlights On would be the perfect product to introduce the new small units then.
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Post by: RoundTop on 24 May 2019, 23:39:40
And Randall's Facebook just posted pictures of battletech and shadowrun dice bags.

Battletech had battletech, 35th anniversary log, no guts no Galaxy, and an alternate color from what I could see. Plus I spotted an as: commanders edition. It was mentioned to be stuff for origins.
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Post by: SCC on 25 May 2019, 02:14:48
Sounds like the Spotlights On would be the perfect product to introduce the new small units then.
Why, they're going to be dead soon.
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Post by: nckestrel on 25 May 2019, 02:16:03
Why, they're going to be dead soon.

You don’t know that.
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Post by: SCC on 25 May 2019, 02:23:28
True, but it's incredibly likely. Or rather from what we know it's incredibly likely.
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Post by: Korzon77 on 25 May 2019, 02:28:38
I'm  excited to see a fresh new part of the inner sphere, learn about its people ... and plot its conquest ;) The preview art is gorgeous and love the FASA era throwback credits page.

Cheers,
LCC

I actually like focusing on smaller factions--It's a nice shift away from many recent products which have focused on the huge sphere shaking events. But a small nation, or a group of them? Once again your company of mechs matters!

Also I'm interested in the Argo RS, given some of its rather non-standard systems.
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Post by: Frabby on 25 May 2019, 04:22:51
Argo record sheet... should I be excited or should I panic?  :D
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Post by: Eisenwolf on 25 May 2019, 04:55:15
Any estimates when we can expect the PDF?
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Post by: Two Guns Blazing on 25 May 2019, 05:22:30
Looks like a Thunderbolt losing an arm.

Yep, I've just realised that artwork on the front of the ASCE is the exact same artwork that is on the back of one of the Thunderbolt Record Sheets from the Beginners Box Set, or at least is seems very much to be the same...
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Post by: Daryk on 25 May 2019, 05:54:39
Argo record sheet... should I be excited or should I panic?  :D
Being that it also has an entry in the "Rules Annex", I'm going with "excited"...

Also, bets on it using the "Illegal" quirk?  :D
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Post by: Terrace on 25 May 2019, 07:18:54
I wanna know what stage of the Argo's repairs the RS will represent.

Will it be just as the PC takes command? Will it be the fully tricked out version we've poured millions of C-Bills into? Somewhere in between?
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Post by: Deadborder on 25 May 2019, 07:44:55
I need this book so much. Thank you for sharing! The ToC alone is whetting my appetite
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Post by: Cubby on 25 May 2019, 08:04:55
Any estimates when we can expect the PDF?

At the moment, we’re sticking to the May 31 date. But that’s part of why we want to provide updates as possible about the POD process—it’s our first time through it.
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Post by: Cubby on 25 May 2019, 08:05:59
Very cool, I'm really looking forward to ASCE,...what Mech is that on the front cover, I can't make it out...also, is that a hard copy re-print of the Tech Manual, that's mine as well???

The AS:CE has a T-bolt on the cover.

And yes, that’s a print proof of the previously announced reprint of TM
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Post by: Cache on 25 May 2019, 09:32:12
True, but it's incredibly likely. Or rather from what we know it's incredibly likely.
What, exactly, do "we" know? The only thing I can think of that will kill them is poor sales. Have TPTB made an announcement on that?
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Post by: I am Belch II on 25 May 2019, 09:44:05
What is the book under that Alpha Strike book?

Sorry if this has been already answered
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Post by: nckestrel on 25 May 2019, 09:48:00
What is the book under that Alpha Strike book?

Sorry if this has been already answered

The TechManual reprint.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cache on 25 May 2019, 09:48:26
What is the book under that Alpha Strike book?

The AS:CE has a T-bolt on the cover.

And yes, that’s a print proof of the previously announced reprint of TM
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Post by: Weirdo on 25 May 2019, 10:43:30
How interested are people in the Spotlight series? I ask because I've realized that if and when we jump ahead to 3250, most, if not all, of the units that exist now and are getting Spotlights are going to be gone. Or at the very least their current line-ups will be gone, possibly replaced be a new group calling them selves the same thing, but with no connection to the original group.

Your gaming group must be very boring if they insist that everything you do must be on the absolute bleeding edge of the timeline. I take it you don't purchase any historical products either, never ever play 3025 games, and so forth?
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Post by: Cubby on 25 May 2019, 11:06:09
True, but it's incredibly likely. Or rather from what we know it's incredibly likely.

So my silence isn’t misconstrued as confirmation: I have no idea what this opinion is based on.
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Post by: Bedwyr on 25 May 2019, 11:22:16
So my silence isn’t misconstrued as confirmation: I have no idea what this opinion is based on.

I think it stems from the pop culture purge Herb did during the Jihad era. Could be wrong.
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Post by: RomulusDC on 25 May 2019, 12:27:17
Your gaming group must be very boring if they insist that everything you do must be on the absolute bleeding edge of the timeline. I take it you don't purchase any historical products either, never ever play 3025 games, and so forth?

I’ve had 30 years to play 3025. I would like to get back to bleeding edge for a while.
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 25 May 2019, 14:00:40
Has anyone been stopping you?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: RomulusDC on 25 May 2019, 16:32:20
I feel like The bleeding edge of the Battletech story line feels more like a well healed scab. I’m hoping Catalyst can rip the banaid off this summer and get some movement going.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Deadborder on 25 May 2019, 17:11:05
I'd made some attempts at reverse-engineering the Slepnir APC into CBT stats. Let's see how well I did
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: SCC on 25 May 2019, 18:19:37
I think it stems from the pop culture purge Herb did during the Jihad era. Could be wrong.
More the impending ilClan (Both book and actual in-universe state [Is the book still slated for GenCon this year?]) and the 100 year time skip that come with them. Pretty sure every existing mercenary command will cease to exist during the intervening time, heck it's possible that the Successor States no longer exist.

I’ve had 30 years to play 3025. I would like to get back to bleeding edge for a while.
Beyond that BT has been pushing an 'all eras' approach for the last, what decade? And an more then just a board game angle for the same time. 3025 material only appeals to people want to play the board game in 3025.
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Post by: Scotty on 25 May 2019, 18:20:42
More the impending ilClan ... the 100 year time skip that come with them.

[Citation needed]
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Post by: Valkerie on 25 May 2019, 21:57:05
More the impending ilClan (Both book and actual in-universe state [Is the book still slated for GenCon this year?]) and the 100 year time skip that come with them.

Um, did I miss something?  I don't remember seeing that anywhere around here before. ???
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Post by: hf22 on 25 May 2019, 22:03:20
I think the ilclan time skip thing was a Herb & Ben era idea, which as far as we know has been dropped.

Probably a good thing it has as well, since based on Ben Rome's blog, the purpose of it was to setup Jihad & Dark Age 2.0. And we all know how popular that was the first time.
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Post by: rebs on 25 May 2019, 22:20:21
I hope there's no time skip.  I just want more BattleTech and BattleTech lore.
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Post by: SCC on 25 May 2019, 23:19:45
[Citation needed]
Um, did I miss something?  I don't remember seeing that anywhere around here before. ???
I think the ilclan time skip thing was a Herb & Ben era idea, which as far as we know has been dropped.

Probably a good thing it has as well, since based on Ben Rome's blog, the purpose of it was to setup Jihad & Dark Age 2.0. And we all know how popular that was the first time.
OK, for those somehow not in the know Herb at one point floated/posted to these boards the idea that after ilClan (the book) came out there would be a jump forward in time to 3250, some, possibly even most, people weren't happy with and for a long time that was all we heard.

Until the books Second Succession War and TRO: Succession Wars, both of which have in-universe publication dates of 3250 and seem to involve some sort of ilClan ruling the Inner Sphere.

I hope there's no time skip.  I just want more BattleTech and BattleTech lore.
For the reasons I've explained above, this looks doubtful.
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Post by: Frabby on 26 May 2019, 00:26:33
OK, for those somehow not in the know Herb at one point floated/posted to these boards the idea that after ilClan (the book) came out there would be a jump forward in time to 3250, some, possibly even most, people weren't happy with and for a long time that was all we heard.
Beg to differ.
There was also hints at a rules overhaul - completely new set of weapons to boot, with all existing stuff relegated to "obsolete".

Some (most?) players voiced concerns about gameplay after a suggested radical revamping of equipment options. (There was talk about reducing the options to more generic weapon systems and making all existing equipment "obsolete" in that it hardly scratched the new super-armor, or something like that.)

Others were unhappy about a time jump, i.e. a proposed gap in the timeline that would then have to be backfilled. That had worked so-so for the 20 Year Update and many were apparently unhappy with the Jihad/Dark Age time gap (and/or how it was backfilled).

According to my vague memory, a handful may even have complained about the very concept of an ilClan existing, or any major change to the starmap.

So while there was a lot of typical internet angst bandied about (which CGL felt amounted to a negative feedback), different people had different opinions on different things. My personal impression back then was that my own "sit and wait, and judge it when I see it" attitude was actually the most widespread among the fanbase, albeit not the most vocal.

Now, pertinent to this thread:
I'm not afraid of changes to the map.
I'm indifferent to new rules for new equipment and 'Mechs, as my gaming needs are already (over-)satiated by existing stuff.
If there is a new era, I'd like to get there via novels and not by time jump. That latter is really my only concern with ilClan, and even that's not a very big issue for me.
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Post by: rebs on 26 May 2019, 00:35:20
Well at least we're getting new novels.  It's been a long time coming. 

The IlClan shouldn't be that big of a jump.  The basic ideas of how it ends were decided years ago on a table at gencon.  I just root for my Shark Foxes for the hell of it whilst hoping they don't get too beat up in the coming storm.
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Post by: Scotty on 26 May 2019, 00:49:27
OK, for those somehow not in the know Herb at one point floated/posted to these boards the idea that after ilClan (the book) came out there would be a jump forward in time to 3250

I'm in the know; I was pointing out that there is very, very little evidence for a timeskip outside of what Herb said 5+ years ago.  Herb is not the line developer, even if he was at the time.  A lot can change in five years.

Which is a long winded way of saying we have no idea what's coming and that such assumptions aren't well supported unless your name is Brent or Ray.  Normally I'd leave speculation of that nature alone, but the way it was introduced was really loaded in a way that doesn't play well with the... excitable nature of this thread in particular and this forum in general.

The IlClan shouldn't be that big of a jump.  The basic ideas of how it ends were decided years ago on a table at gencon.

This is not how books are written.  Anything that happened at GenCon under the previous line developer has as little to do with IlClan as I do.  I'll be surprised if it matches even a little bit.
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Post by: rebs on 26 May 2019, 01:22:21

This is not how books are written.  Anything that happened at GenCon under the previous line developer has as little to do with IlClan as I do.  I'll be surprised if it matches even a little bit.

I hope you are correct.  And yes, it did sound like a poor way to write a story.   But at one point this was what TPTB was going with. Glad to know we're not beholden to the way dice fell at a gaming convention.
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Post by: SCC on 26 May 2019, 01:50:05
I'm in the know; I was pointing out that there is very, very little evidence for a timeskip outside of what Herb said 5+ years ago.  Herb is not the line developer, even if he was at the time.  A lot can change in five years.

Which is a long winded way of saying we have no idea what's coming and that such assumptions aren't well supported unless your name is Brent or Ray.  Normally I'd leave speculation of that nature alone, but the way it was introduced was really loaded in a way that doesn't play well with the... excitable nature of this thread in particular and this forum in general.
I distinctly remember a big planning session that Herb posted teasing photo's from at some point, plotting out the story beyond ilClan, presumably all the planning is still somewhat valid, and these two snippets from the latest sourcebooks wouldn't line up with an ilClan existing if one doesn't come into existence.
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Post by: Two Guns Blazing on 26 May 2019, 02:14:18
I'm quite happy playing within the confines of 3025 - 3052-ish and don't go North or South of that, just not interested (although I can understand why others may be)...the setting is so frikken huge that you can perpetually play in that time period...
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Post by: Maingunnery on 26 May 2019, 03:41:03
Beg to differ.
There was also hints at a rules overhaul - completely new set of weapons to boot, with all existing stuff relegated to "obsolete".

Some (most?) players voiced concerns about gameplay after a suggested radical revamping of equipment options. (There was talk about reducing the options to more generic weapon systems and making all existing equipment "obsolete" in that it hardly scratched the new super-armor, or something like that.)

Others were unhappy about a time jump, i.e. a proposed gap in the timeline that would then have to be backfilled. That had worked so-so for the 20 Year Update and many were apparently unhappy with the Jihad/Dark Age time gap (and/or how it was backfilled).

According to my vague memory, a handful may even have complained about the very concept of an ilClan existing, or any major change to the starmap.

So while there was a lot of typical internet angst bandied about (which CGL felt amounted to a negative feedback), different people had different opinions on different things. My personal impression back then was that my own "sit and wait, and judge it when I see it" attitude was actually the most widespread among the fanbase, albeit not the most vocal.
Indeed, and speaking of myself, I was part of the group that were positive to the proposed TimeJump with equipment/tech reset.
Such a missed opportunity....    :(  :'(
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Post by: SCC on 26 May 2019, 04:27:31
Indeed, and speaking of myself, I was part of the group that were positive to the proposed TimeJump with equipment/tech reset.
Such a missed opportunity....    :(  :'(
Yep, people complain about having to carry lots of books or about rules complexity, well this would have fixed things.
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Post by: Wrangler on 26 May 2019, 05:38:23
I'd like to wipe dust off my saddles and move on to the next adventure.
In the end, the other time periods are still there for people to play. Not everyone understands (in my opinion) that nothing changes for them. They can play where you want, have fun whenever you want. 

Time jump expanding the universe, not ending it. 

Hopefully next core book (whatever it's called) will be full of good stuff to play with.  I rather not get into situation where were stuck-in same year for decade sort situation.

If there was bigger staff for CGL, maybe we'd see more stuff sooner. There not alot of them, so we have to be patient. 
Right now they're doing 2 things, Promote the game and get new players on and keep universe alive. 
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Post by: Cubby on 26 May 2019, 08:26:49
I distinctly remember a big planning session that Herb posted teasing photo's from at some point, plotting out the story beyond ilClan, presumably all the planning is still somewhat valid, and these two snippets from the latest sourcebooks wouldn't line up with an ilClan existing if one doesn't come into existence.

Nothing in that photo is valid anymore because the person who posted it is no longer guiding the BT product line or story.

The 3250 glimpses in prefaces are just small Easter eggs, teasers, nothing more. Not indicative of any larger plans.

To be very clear: a time jump has NOT been announced, confirmed or hinted at since Herb’s half-decade old statements which are no longer valid. Actual plans will likely be totally different, but I’m not at liberty to discuss any such plans further.

I do NOT want to re-legislate 3250 here and now. It’s not an active thing.
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Post by: I am Belch II on 26 May 2019, 09:19:07
So the time jump to 3250 is still on?? I thought that was quietly shelved??
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Post by: Maingunnery on 26 May 2019, 09:22:11
So the time jump to 3250 is still on?? I thought that was quietly shelved??
It’s not an active thing.
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Post by: I am Belch II on 26 May 2019, 10:04:48
Thanks
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Post by: SteelRaven on 26 May 2019, 11:32:20
I really wish people would stop making that a thing.
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Post by: rebs on 26 May 2019, 11:34:37
Its more than enough to get the next 5 year jump after ten years...
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Post by: Empyrus on 26 May 2019, 15:01:07
Seems to me that 3250 stuff is "this is a little hint of where we are going" but otherwise things are "you'll see the journey there".
Sorta meta-framing story, if that makes sense?
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Post by: jimdigris on 26 May 2019, 15:43:36
TPTB cannot do a time-jump anymore; the SLS Manassas was finally destroyed during the Jihad. ;)
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Post by: Bosefius on 26 May 2019, 19:40:58
 C:-) Drop the Time Jump conversation. C:-)
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Post by: Brigoon on 27 May 2019, 21:51:24
So what does everyone think of the Argo making into the game ?
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Post by: Wrangler on 27 May 2019, 21:52:43
I'm happy and curious about Argo.

There another thread to discuss the details of PDF books (and PoD) content.
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Post by: Colt Ward on 27 May 2019, 22:42:34
Nice to see the ToC, stoked for that new Atlas II and the APCs.
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Post by: Liam's Ghost on 27 May 2019, 23:14:23
So what does everyone think of the Argo making into the game ?

Can't say without seeing what it looks like.
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Post by: Sartris on 27 May 2019, 23:23:14
new Atlas II

schrodinger's extinction: extinct until observed as not extinct
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Daryk on 28 May 2019, 03:22:18
I'm with Liam... really want to see how they did it...
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Post by: Brigoon on 28 May 2019, 05:10:57
I'm happy and curious about Argo.

There another thread to discuss the details of PDF books (and PoD) content.

I know about the other thread this was more like a hand grenade toss to get the conversation steered away from the territory of the angry Battlemasters.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Gaiiten on 28 May 2019, 06:28:47
So due the actual End of the Dark Age storyline, when can we buy ilClan sourcebook?
Has been a while, since we have gotten new stuff for story continuation.  :(
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Elmoth on 28 May 2019, 06:30:00
Still waiting for my boxed sets :(
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Post by: klarg1 on 28 May 2019, 07:17:47
schrodinger's extinction: extinct until observed as not extinct

By the standards of the MUL, I think it still counts as extinct, even if the Aranos successfully dig one out of an old SL cache.

I'm excited for all the units listed for the book. The APCs may have the most practical impact on my games, but they all have potential.
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Post by: Colt Ward on 28 May 2019, 09:06:35
So due the actual End of the Dark Age storyline, when can we buy ilClan sourcebook?
Has been a while, since we have gotten new stuff for story continuation.  :(

You know . . . the book that came out last GenCon moved things forward?  Since it had not for years before that, complaining about timeline movement is a bit disingenuous.
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Post by: Scotty on 28 May 2019, 09:43:44
Last I checked Catalyst is still in the business of making money.  When there's news about a new product, you'll hear about it.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Gaiiten on 28 May 2019, 11:55:45
You know . . . the book that came out last GenCon moved things forward?  Since it had not for years before that, complaining about timeline movement is a bit disingenuous.
Well, you know ... this was almost a year ago and IMHO that the timeline did not move for some years is nothing what fans and customers shhould so simply accept.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 28 May 2019, 12:19:19
They said when SF dropped that ilclan was going to be at least a year. You can be disappointed but no one should be surprised we haven’t seen it or wonder where it is.
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Post by: Fat Guy on 28 May 2019, 14:00:33
Hoping it will be a Gen Con release.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 28 May 2019, 14:29:21
That’s looking very unlikely, and until now that hasn’t been stated or hinted at.
Just want expectations to be clear.
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Post by: Frabby on 28 May 2019, 15:46:20
Well, you know ... this was almost a year ago and IMHO that the timeline did not move for some years is nothing what fans and customers shhould so simply accept.
That's one possible view.
Another is that the timeline is arguably too long already, and must advance only very slowly. We're dealing with third and fourth generation protagonists already. Reset the board too often and it becomes meaningless.
I'd rather prefer CGL to explore each era in great depth and breadth.
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Post by: Daryk on 28 May 2019, 16:07:21
Amen to that... and yes, my preference is for more Succession Wars.  There's so much potential in there.  More, I think, than in the post-clan invasion stuff. YMMV.
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Post by: Two Guns Blazing on 28 May 2019, 16:11:47
That's one possible view.
Another is that the timeline is arguably too long already, and must advance only very slowly. We're dealing with third and fourth generation protagonists already. Reset the board too often and it becomes meaningless.
I'd rather prefer CGL to explore each era in great depth and breadth.

This is my view as well. I think there is more than enough of a time period for players to choose to play in...each time period has thousands of planets and lots of factions, Merc units, upstarts, pirates etc, etc to fight with/against and there are literally hundreds of different unit types to utilise and the scope of missions or campaigns is only limited by your imagination...I'd be happy to see the time line go no further and instead have each time period to be filled out with more cool content.
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Post by: hf22 on 28 May 2019, 21:26:24
It might not match with the idea of fiction driven timeline progress which currently seems to be the plan, but I'd say there is a fair argument ilClan should be the last major "era".

It provides a reasonable wrap up from a narrative point of view (the reestablishment of some form of loose clan style Star League), provides plenty of scope for smaller fiction driven progress within the era, and would stop thinning the fanbase over more time periods.
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Post by: truetanker on 28 May 2019, 23:42:23
Anything in the pipe about or mentioning Homeworlds?

Just trying to complete a unit that has a certain origins there...

TT
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Post by: rebs on 28 May 2019, 23:51:57
Anything in the pipe about or mentioning Homeworlds?

I second this.  I hope the Clan Homeworlds come to life in a book of their own.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: SCC on 29 May 2019, 02:46:11
This is my view as well. I think there is more than enough of a time period for players to choose to play in...each time period has thousands of planets and lots of factions, Merc units, upstarts, pirates etc, etc to fight with/against and there are literally hundreds of different unit types to utilise and the scope of missions or campaigns is only limited by your imagination...I'd be happy to see the time line go no further and instead have each time period to be filled out with more cool content.
The problem is that 3025 is, at the very least, very old school, and if your trying to bring in newer players it's probably not the best choice of material, at least as far as setting go's.

It might not match with the idea of fiction driven timeline progress which currently seems to be the plan, but I'd say there is a fair argument ilClan should be the last major "era".
If Legacy is anything to go by I think that the possibility of fiction focusing on small units is unlikely going forward.

It provides a reasonable wrap up from a narrative point of view (the reestablishment of some form of loose clan style Star League), provides plenty of scope for smaller fiction driven progress within the era, and would stop thinning the fanbase over more time periods.
There WILL be era's after it, if anything it will likely serve to close out the current epoch of BT.

Anything in the pipe about or mentioning Homeworlds?

Just trying to complete a unit that has a certain origins there...

TT
I'm going to guessing it will be covered in ilClan.
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Post by: Sartris on 29 May 2019, 07:39:11
We currently have ~700 years of playable timeline (2450-3150). The question that has to be asked is what does more timeline offer us from both a gameplay and narrative perspective? We’re at the point where I feel like advancing the timeline for the sake of advancing the timeline isn’t enough any more.

Love or hate the old 3250 idea, but it was to offer a substantive change to both the game and structure of the universe. If it’s decided to move past 3150, it should have a clearly defined feel that isn’t just “ok everyone’s still fighting but now the wolves are the most powerful and here’s ten new toys”
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 29 May 2019, 08:09:21
Anything in the pipe about or mentioning Homeworlds?


Anyone who says they know anything about the Homeworlds these days has been using that pipe.
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Post by: Mendrugo on 29 May 2019, 08:37:38
The Tetatae's name for the old Clan Homeworlds, Fokopopenohalapeno, roughly translates as "hunting/feasting grounds."  The Grand WarFlock found the genecaste, in particular, to be a treasured delicacy.
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 29 May 2019, 08:41:44
Anything in the pipe about or mentioning Homeworlds?
Nope.

If Legacy is anything to go by I think that the possibility of fiction focusing on small units is unlikely going forward.
That is however the eventual goal.

Sartris, that’s pretty much my view on it.
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Post by: ArchonDan on 29 May 2019, 08:43:54
We currently have ~700 years of playable timeline (2450-3150). The question that has to be asked is what does more timeline offer us from both a gameplay and narrative perspective? We’re at the point where I feel like advancing the timeline for the sake of advancing the timeline isn’t enough any more.

Love or hate the old 3250 idea, but it was to offer a substantive change to both the game and structure of the universe. If it’s decided to move past 3150, itshould both have a clearly defined feel that isn’t just “ok everyone’s still fighting but now the wolves are the most powerful and here’s ten new toys”

I agree with you. In the existing time line there is already so much change, so many actors and cast of characters defined. Continuing to move the time line forward just minimizes all the existing eras.  Pause the timeline and explore within the existing universe. From a gameplay and business side, create more detailed unit and scenario books much like the touring the star series or the old scenario books that were put out in the early days.  Right now the BT has a massive framework of events and characters to draw from. Rather then expand it, explore with in it more.
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Post by: rebs on 29 May 2019, 09:11:17
Anyone who says they know anything about the Homeworlds these days has been using that pipe.

I can't help but like the homeworlds.  They're the misbegotten children of BT. 
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Post by: Colt Ward on 29 May 2019, 09:18:28
If Legacy is anything to go by I think that the possibility of fiction focusing on small units is unlikely going forward.

Yeah, have to wonder how you got that idea . . . we saw none of the regular story units in the book (WD, GDL, KH, DBoG, etc), were introduced to several small bands that likely went bust which was part of the reason the machine passed into other hands.  Throw on that we got the KH starter trilogy, the new box sets have fiction for Carlyle's Commandos which was small unit, even the new novellas one had the early POV character being a small merc command.

AnchorDan, we are told quite often the specific scenario books are not great for business- either in overall sales, velocity, or both.  Honestly, if you want something along those lines, you might look down in the fan fiction section b/c plenty of fans by what I saw will create and then share.  Right now, as a outsider, it seems the business plan is to wrap up the promised era (Dark Ages) and re-order the product line to keep the basics in print- Box Set, TW/BMM, and core TROs like the new TRO Succession Wars & impending TRO Clan Invasion.  With that they can keep product on the shelf for folks to get started and from there they can where they want.
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Post by: NeonKnight on 29 May 2019, 09:21:59
Yeah, have to wonder how you got that idea . . . we saw none of the regular story units in the book (WD, GDL, KH, DBoG, etc), were introduced to several small bands that likely went bust which was part of the reason the machine passed into other hands.  Throw on that we got the KH starter trilogy, the new box sets have fiction for Carlyle's Commandos which was small unit, even the new novellas one had the early POV character being a small merc command.

Just to Clarify, not Carlyle's Commandos...Colby's Commandos.

https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=62594.msg1439040#msg1439040

I no longer have the minis (still need to repaint them up) as Brent Evans now owns them after loving the paint scheme at MechCon 2018.
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Post by: Colt Ward on 29 May 2019, 09:31:25
I knew it was CC, guess I was throwing around the wrong first name.
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Post by: NeonKnight on 29 May 2019, 09:41:35
Yeah, I'd love to see a timeline of the Carlyle's:

COLBY COMMANDOS -> CARLYLE'S COMMANDOS -> GREY DEATH LEGION
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Post by: Colt Ward on 29 May 2019, 10:33:12
Okay, that was my confusion- I keep thinking they were about the unit his dad controlled directly before the GDL.
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Post by: ArchonDan on 29 May 2019, 10:56:10
Thanks Colt Ward, I'll head over to the Fan fiction section. I like the idea of wrapping up the Dark Age and reordering the line a bit, make it a bit more streamlined and better organized.
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Post by: Rainbow 6 on 29 May 2019, 10:56:30
Yeah, I'd love to see a timeline of the Carlyle's:

COLBY COMMANDOS -> CARLYLE'S COMMANDOS -> GREY DEATH LEGION

Then Brewer's Legion and death?
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Post by: NeonKnight on 29 May 2019, 10:59:01
I do believe Colby's (which is new as of the Box Sets) was Carlyle's force before being renamed to Carlyle's Commandos.

Colby's Commandos are spearheaded/run by Durant Carlyle...and Grey Death was run his Son Grayson.

So, there is defintely a story there on How Colby's Commandos becomes Carlyle's Commandos
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Post by: Sartris on 29 May 2019, 11:22:32
So, there is defintely a story there on How Colby's Commandos becomes Carlyle's Commandos

Galatea, 30XX
The young adept scrunched his nose, attempting to make out Durant's handwriting. "Colby's Commandos to Carlyle's commandos?"
"Yes" Durant nodded in agreement.
"Fine." The adept notarized the form. "Your form CSMB341.32D-P has been officially processed and fee processed from your escrow account. Please allow five to ten business days for the official listings to change at the hiring hall."
"Great, thanks." With the day's work done, Durant Carlyle wandered off to find a bottle to drain.
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Post by: NeonKnight on 29 May 2019, 11:58:40
Galatea, 30XX
The young adept scrunched his nose, attempting to make out Durant's handwriting. "Colby's Commandos to Carlyle's commandos?"
"Yes" Durant nodded in agreement.
"Fine." The adept notarized the form. "Your form CSMB341.32D-P has been officially processed and fee processed from your escrow account. Please allow five to ten business days for the official listings to change at the hiring hall."
"Great, thanks." With the day's work done, Durant Carlyle wandered off to find a bottle to drain.

Well, you just shot yerself in the foot, you coulda sold that story to CGL :P
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Post by: Sartris on 29 May 2019, 12:41:40
i am, before anything, a man of the people  :P
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Post by: Two Guns Blazing on 29 May 2019, 17:54:23
The problem is that 3025 is, at the very least, very old school, and if your trying to bring in newer players it's probably not the best choice of material, at least as far as setting go's.

That's a fair point, SCC. I guess all it would take to make it not "Old School" though, would be to have new and modernised (aka MWO style or similar) artwork commissioned for the TRO's and give them a more modern format, (keep the new plastic modernised mini's coming too).

Also, 3025 is a good starting point for new players to get into the game because of the lower Tech level and smaller amount of unit choice (although still providing a great variety of Tech and units).

...and having Alpha Strike helps a lot as it allows more people to get their game on more often, when otherwise they might be too time poor to indulge in a CBT game.
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Post by: RomulusDC on 29 May 2019, 20:13:23
BattleTech was for many years my go to game/ setting because I could always count on a moving storyline. I could always look forward to some surprise.
I don’t like the pre 3025 stuff. Doesn’t interest me at all. I hate going backwards in a story. I just started a Megamek  campaign in 3067 not because I want to, but because I hope by the time I play it out to 3150, there will be somewhere new to go.
I don’t want to see BattleTech enter into syndication, doomed to rehash the same old time line over and over. Just covering the same ground with increasing granularity doesn’t feel like it’s new material.
I suppose I post this as a counter to the enough is enough argument because I believe my perspective is relevant and Catalyst appears to some degree to consider customer opinion. This is mine.
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Post by: RotS fan on 29 May 2019, 21:57:06
Also, 3025 is a good starting point for new players to get into the game because of the lower Tech level and smaller amount of unit choice (although still providing a great variety of Tech and units).
And that's wrong. Limiting gameplay to specific eras is a bad decision, to say the least. The system would be better if newer gamers could play at any setting they like, but using simpler rules.

That's one possible view.
Another is that the timeline is arguably too long already, and must advance only very slowly. We're dealing with third and fourth generation protagonists already. Reset the board too often and it becomes meaningless.
I'd rather prefer CGL to explore each era in great depth and breadth.

I can't disagree more
Older eras are already explored enough. It is hard to believe that you didn't have enough time to enjoy all the eras and digest their stories IN THE PAST 35 YEARS. Heck, we are stuck in Dark Age for the last 17 years. The plot advanced only 18 years in-universe (3132-3150), kinda hard to be slower than this.

To be quite honest I have simply accepted that Battletech isn't a game for me. Never seen a fan base so averse against moving forward.

There are games out there that are being updated frequently, with fan bases that are not against such updates. I still have a space in my heart for Battletech, but the space in my wallet is long gone.
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Post by: SteelRaven on 29 May 2019, 23:20:27
Can we not make this a argument regarding eras

I started playing in the Clan Invasion era. I play tons of 3025 era right now but 3050 is still my favorite for many reasons. Variety is one of the best things about the BTU, I love how it just keeps giving us new stuff to blow up shoot at play with! 

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Post by: Alexander Knight on 29 May 2019, 23:45:32
Older eras are already explored enough. It is hard to believe that you didn't have enough time to enjoy all the eras and digest their stories IN THE PAST 35 YEARS. Heck, we are stuck in Dark Age for the last 17 years. The plot advanced only 18 years in-universe (3132-3150), kinda hard to be slower than this.

Warhammer 40K and Star Fleet Battles say hello.  Also the original White Wolf RPG line was static until they had their "end of the world" / reboot.
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Post by: Scotty on 29 May 2019, 23:57:54
40K has advanced over a hundred years in the last two, it's not exactly one to hold up as an example.  Star Fleet Battles is based on a property that has advanced decades in the last ten years (though I rightly don't know where it is now or exactly how recently that happened) thanks to Star Trek Online.

You may want to update your go-to examples.
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Post by: SteelRaven on 30 May 2019, 00:03:44
Warhammer 40K and Star Fleet Battles say hello.  Also the original White Wolf RPG line was static until they had their "end of the world" / reboot.

Could you pic 3 games that had less in common with BT?

WoD always took place in the current time with the exception of throw backs to the dark age or wild west. Star Fleet Battle is milking nostalgia of the TV series and I personally cant say one good thing about 40K other than all those mini's I can't afford look really pretty.
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Post by: Colt Ward on 30 May 2019, 00:14:19
I can't disagree more
Older eras are already explored enough. It is hard to believe that you didn't have enough time to enjoy all the eras and digest their stories IN THE PAST 35 YEARS. Heck, we are stuck in Dark Age for the last 17 years. The plot advanced only 18 years in-universe (3132-3150), kinda hard to be slower than this.

To be quite honest I have simply accepted that Battletech isn't a game for me. Never seen a fan base so averse against moving forward.

Actually, CGL only got the Dark Age since roughly 2009, and yeah it stalled out the last few years for reasons that were explained but started moving ahead last year with a few months warning it would . . . so roughly 8 years doing 3132-3145.  Before that FanPro then CGL was wrapping up the FCCW and starting to play with the Jihad.  Wizkids brought you the Dark Ages 2003-2008ish which released novels for 3132-3138 or so.
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Post by: Sartris on 30 May 2019, 00:32:30
I was for a moving timeline when the second number in the year was a zero. 3025-3100 provides a decent arc to echo the first star league's rise and fall. Frankly the prime mover of the narrative in the 90s was the firehose blast of novels that served as the backbone of the clan invasion - something we're never going to see again. any timeline push without that fiction support is going to feel flimsy.

as of now, rules are the way they are. the BMM / core book reprints should be a sign that no matter what you think of them, they're not going anywhere. that's the reality. you're not going to see simpler rules outside of AS. under that paradigm, it makes the most sense to go 3SW as the intro era.they shut down the line for a year and what we've seen of the retool that went on during that time definitely points mostly toward SW and Clan Invasion (foreshadowed by the Combat Manuals). whatever anthony is working on with all those prototype sculpts also fits in the early invasion frame. i'm a big fan of advanced tech mayhem afforded by the jihad and onward, but i'm good with a tightening of the line overall. there just isn't the fan (and customer) base to support running the pasta through the press too many more times.
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Post by: Colt Ward on 30 May 2019, 01:49:24
I think Wizkids managed to push out more novels during their brief span than FASA did, and it probably helped the FWL, Falcons, and CapCon.
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Post by: rebs on 30 May 2019, 01:51:27
The Sea Foxes got some good love during that time, too.
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Post by: SCC on 30 May 2019, 02:19:23
That is however the eventual goal.
Sorry Adrian, could you clarify this a bit.

Yeah, have to wonder how you got that idea . . . we saw none of the regular story units in the book (WD, GDL, KH, DBoG, etc), were introduced to several small bands that likely went bust which was part of the reason the machine passed into other hands.  Throw on that we got the KH starter trilogy, the new box sets have fiction for Carlyle's Commandos which was small unit, even the new novellas one had the early POV character being a small merc command.
Legacy was like nothing we've gotten before, and while the individual stories that make it up might be as you describe, the overall narrative was not. Would you be all that interested in buying any of those stories, or even all of them, if it wasn't for that narrative? Do you think it would have sold anywhere near as well if the book wasn't about that it was, but just a random collection of short stories from BT?

And the history that lead to the formation of the GDL would be a major part of BT (deservedly or not), would that fiction interest you as much if it was about Wilma’s Wabid Wombats?

That's a fair point, SCC. I guess all it would take to make it not "Old School" though, would be to have new and modernised (aka MWO style or similar) artwork commissioned for the TRO's and give them a more modern format, (keep the new plastic modernised mini's coming too).

Also, 3025 is a good starting point for new players to get into the game because of the lower Tech level and smaller amount of unit choice (although still providing a great variety of Tech and units).

...and having Alpha Strike helps a lot as it allows more people to get their game on more often, when otherwise they might be too time poor to indulge in a CBT game.
The tech level is good for introducing new players, but the setting is too dated, based upon meme's that don't grab anywhere near as much attention. If you wanted to rope someone into BT would you show them art from that era or more modern stuff?

That's one possible view.
Another is that the timeline is arguably too long already, and must advance only very slowly. We're dealing with third and fourth generation protagonists already. Reset the board too often and it becomes meaningless.
I'd rather prefer CGL to explore each era in great depth and breadth.
Just about every BT book depends upon timeline expansion
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Post by: Frabby on 30 May 2019, 04:44:57
Just about every BT book depends upon timeline expansion
With all due respect, no. Only the "spine" novels do. And for me it's become a real problem. Whenever there was a new Stackpole novel, I was like "oh noes, what's he gonna do to the universe this time"?

In the early days, there was a new BT universe to explore and build. The novels did a fine job.

But as that canon sandbox grew ever bigger, I found that personally, I like "backfilling" much more than racing the timeline along. Books like Betrayal of Ideals, Forever Faithful, Gier, and many of the best BattleCorps stories/novellas took a known part of the past timeline, and put a new spin on something you thought you knew. Or explained apparent contradictions or kinks in canon. Or simply took a closer look at one of the 99.9% of worlds that were largely overlooked in the spine novels, and what the throne room politics from the novels actually mean for the common people on the forgotten planets.

Mind you, I absolutely want the timeline to go on. I want to know how the story continues. But given the nature of the BT timeline, this isn't a planned narrative that runs towards some specific ultimate conclusion. It has to be neverending. And that in turn means the drawbacks of advancing the timeline (namely, stretching things like characters and even realms for readers/players to identify themselves with thin across the centuries) have to be balanced carefully against the advantages (having a non-static setting). To me, the conclusion is that the timeline must be advanced only at the absolutely slowest speed possible. We've "lost" 130 years already.
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Post by: Wrangler on 30 May 2019, 06:40:38
That’s looking very unlikely, and until now that hasn’t been stated or hinted at.
Just want expectations to be clear.
So to clarify.. We're not likely going to be going to get a new book as a sequel wise to Shattered Fortress this gencon? I know things take time and frankly it sounds like there's been more reshuffling going on in the background than we had thought. So does these small comments and hints mean not to expect much but what was announced is coming out? This sort a kind of leaves people hanging here.

If true it will fell disappointing of a summer.  New rule books dont get me really excited. New stories and other things do. 

Hopefully the momentum we did have years ago will comeback.

Canon In-universe magazine would at least keep us feeling the game a more living thing such as Battletechology did than these big gaps of low activity.
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Post by: Alexander Knight on 30 May 2019, 11:14:52
40K has advanced over a hundred years in the last two, it's not exactly one to hold up as an example.  Star Fleet Battles is based on a property that has advanced decades in the last ten years (though I rightly don't know where it is now or exactly how recently that happened) thanks to Star Trek Online.

You may want to update your go-to examples.

40K has had one advance.  And SFB *can't* advance.  It has no connections to Star Trek Online.
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Post by: Scotty on 30 May 2019, 11:39:37
40K has had one advance.  And SFB *can't* advance.  It has no connections to Star Trek Online.

The first is a funny way to phrase "sorry, you're right", the second is totally irrelevant because we're similarly not talking about a new edition of BattleTech.  "Star Fleet Battles" is to "Total Warfare" as "Star Trek" is to "BattleTech".  Star Trek has advanced.
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Post by: Pat Payne on 30 May 2019, 11:56:15
. Star Fleet Battle is milking nostalgia of the TV series

It's not about milking nostalgia with SFB, but the fact that their somewhat bizarre license (in short, IIRC, they licensed the Star Trek properties for the TV series through the back door of getting a sublicense from the guy who had made the old Star Fleet Technical Manual, and the license was subsequently regularized by Paramount with the proviso that it covered only the manual and some limited elements from TOS and TAS -- the latter being the Kzinti as they appeared in "The Slaver Weapon") doesn't allow for them to expand into the movies/TNG/DS9/etc. eras.

But hey... House Arano tomorrow, hopefully? Looking forward to it! (please excuse this pathetic attempt to get the discussion back on track and avoid the wrath of the Beemers :) )
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Post by: Cubby on 30 May 2019, 12:01:14
But hey... House Arano tomorrow, hopefully?

Well...

House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition Update - May 30

The files for House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition were turned over for POD (print on demand) on Friday May 24th and processing began. After some technical revisions, the file was marked approved for proofing on Wednesday May 29th, and production began on a physical proof. Once the proof is created, it will be shipped overnight for inspection and approval (or revision). The turnaround time could be between 3-5 days, with an additional day for review (and creation of revisions if needed).

With this final timeframe, it does not appear that we will meet our May 31st release date, but will absolutely have the POD and PDF book available for purchase by June 7th.

Thank you again for your patience.

Ray Arrastia
BattleTech Assistant Line Developer

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Post by: Colt Ward on 30 May 2019, 12:11:13
Flags, pics, and wireframe art?  Thanks for the taste . . . from the ToC and this, I assume we are getting the PC group called Rampart Company . . .

Out of curiousity, why no Decker, Behemoth, Medusa, and the other two I forget the names of as members?  They were the original pilots.  *starts looking at pages*
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Post by: NeonKnight on 30 May 2019, 12:15:21
I'm loving seeing Screen captures from the game as art...lovely tie-in!
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Post by: Colt Ward on 30 May 2019, 12:19:45
The first page has a great sentence for the 'Why is it not on the map?' crowd- they were not even recognized by their neighboring periphery states as a legitimate government.
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Post by: omega2010 on 30 May 2019, 12:20:48
Flags, pics, and wireframe art?  Thanks for the taste . . . from the ToC and this, I assume we are getting the PC group called Rampart Company . . .

Out of curiousity, why no Decker, Behemoth, Medusa, and the other two I forget the names of as members?  They were the original pilots.  *starts looking at pages*
How did you forget Glitch?  The fifth is the PC.
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Post by: Colt Ward on 30 May 2019, 12:26:11
Hm, I must have usually hired a spare- for some reason was thinking 6 for the campaign start.  But yeah, Glitch but I had another G in mind for the nickname.  The pic of Govender looks like it was made using the PC image customization, which is nice- as NeonKnight said another tie in to HBS.  Be cool if it dropped June 4th with Urban Warfare.
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Post by: VhenRa on 30 May 2019, 12:36:49
Wait?

The Star Group?

Isn't that one of the predecessors to Interstellar Expeditions?
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 30 May 2019, 12:52:05
So to clarify.. We're not likely going to be going to get a new book as a sequel wise to Shattered Fortress this gencon? I know things take time and frankly it sounds like there's been more reshuffling going on in the background than we had thought. So does these small comments and hints mean not to expect much but what was announced is coming out? This sort a kind of leaves people hanging here.
It's very unlikely to be ready by then. I’m not sure what there is to announce? It wasn’t promised for then and we haven’t had any updates on it that I can think of that we need to follow up or correct? People were posting assumptions and I corrected them.

If true it will fell disappointing of a summer.  New rule books dont get me really excited. New stories and other things to.
I’m sorry. The stories aren’t our only focus.

Canon In-universe magazine would at least keep us feeling the game a more living thing such as Battletechology did than these big gaps of low activity.
I would love this. Actually, I don’t know anyone on staff who doesn’t love this idea or doesn’t have fond memories of BattleTechnology. There’s been several proposals for it. However, I haven’t been shown that it’s even remotely financially viable. And while everyone from the owners down the the most casual fans may get stars in their eyes when this is discussed, I’ll bring up the bottom line every time.

As an aside, yes we listen to the fans. We also look at sales. The current discussion here about eras, moving the timeline, and time jumps is all moot. This discussion right here will not influence any decisions. If you have an ever-evolving storyline for your setting, the problem is thus: You start with a setting people love. You move the story (which may feel intrinsic, but is actually separate to, the setting) forward. The bigger the stories, the bigger the stakes, it impacts the setting. The setting changes. The more the setting changes, the more people you lose—while you are hoping that you grow your audience and thus have at least stable, if not positive, growth. But I don’t think I’ve personally seen that in any of the tabletop or RPG games I can think of. So you wind up with a smaller pool, people that appreciate the evolving story more than the setting, and thus the feedback (setting over story) becomes a closed loop, the voices get fewer but louder.

Setting and story need to be balanced, and it ultimately has to serve that same bottom line.
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 30 May 2019, 12:53:18
Wait?

The Star Group?

Isn't that one of the predecessors to Interstellar Expeditions?
excellent catch. I was going to post a zoomed in pic to drop a hint, but you already got it. :)
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Post by: worktroll on 30 May 2019, 13:20:59
The fans see all ... including things you didn't put in, sometimes. ;) Depth of passion.
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Post by: VhenRa on 30 May 2019, 13:36:18
excellent catch. I was going to post a zoomed in pic to drop a hint, but you already got it. :)

Which itself dates the map to the time frame between 2889 and 2974. IIRC the original outline for the Coalition in that kickstarter update had them founded in 2910... which is right smack dab in that time frame.

Throw in the map of the Capellan Confederation, which seems to be mostly that of a post-2SW CapCon... complete with the large mass of internal planets and before they pulled out... I would say that is the map of the Coalition at it's founding.
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Post by: roosterboy on 30 May 2019, 13:40:24
Which itself dates the map to the time frame between 2889 and 2974.

The map says it was filed on 21-07-2890.
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 30 May 2019, 13:42:49
Right. That’s not the Coalition. Yet.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Nerroth on 30 May 2019, 13:43:04
Depending on how well the House Arano book does, could there be a window of opportunity for other out-of-the-way factions to be considered for future print-on-demand volumes?

For example, I'd be keen to see a closer look at the Hanseatic League, even if it "only" went so far as the events covered in The Wars of Reaving Supplemental. The Hansa were conspicuously absent in ISP3, and while they (and the Imperio) seem to be under the same veil of silence that presently shrouds the post-Reaving Clan Homeworlds, it would be welcome to see how they had built themselves up to being the largest Deep Periphery realm, and how widespread their influence was beyond their home territories.


And as an aside, I should note that, while the "end point" of the Star Fleet Universe timeline is in Y225, the material published thus far for the Alpha Octant stops short of that date; there is still room for new material and new historical data on the era of second-generation X-ships, which is set to start in Y205. (Plus, the SFU has its own Empires Aflame-esque alternate timelines, as well as more distant regions of space such as the Omega Octant, to consider.)
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Post by: Colt Ward on 30 May 2019, 13:50:43
Hansa?  I want the Emperio founding!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: worktroll on 30 May 2019, 14:08:18
Folks,

Drop the SFB/W40K/etc timeline debate, please, or move it to another thread. This is an official direction. Do NOT try to get the last word. Please don't make us come down there.

Worktroll, Ombudsman  :beatdown:
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bosefius on 30 May 2019, 14:50:24
Because it apparently needs to be said

**MOD DIRECTIVE**

Drop all conversation not related to upcoming releases/new releases. Now. No last words.
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Post by: Rainbow 6 on 30 May 2019, 15:36:16
Canon In-universe magazine would at least keep us feeling the game a more living thing such as Battletechology did than these big gaps of low activity.

This, so much this, would work well as a pdf only product.
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Post by: Colt Ward on 30 May 2019, 15:49:43
BattleCorps . . . which ground down to nothing and shut down for reasons discussed ad nauseum before.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: SteelRaven on 30 May 2019, 15:59:30
Touring the Stars?

I was looking forward to Gladiator Gazette but ether I'm the only one hungry for more Solaris or IlClan and whatever is following it is taking up all the available writing talent that would be needed to crank out the mini PDFs at a regular bases.   
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Post by: worktroll on 30 May 2019, 16:08:34
And paying the writing talent. Their kids like to eat too, you know.

Yes, PDF makes it easier/cheaper to distribute a product. But all the work that went into it has to be paid for.

W.
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Post by: Sartris on 30 May 2019, 17:04:51
Touring the Stars?

I was looking forward to Gladiator Gazette but ether I'm the only one hungry for more Solaris or IlClan and whatever is following it is taking up all the available writing talent that would be needed to crank out the mini PDFs at a regular bases.   

I was most bummed about opfor disappearing though the standard lances in TP Vega scratched that itch
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Post by: SteelRaven on 30 May 2019, 18:11:09
And paying the writing talent. Their kids like to eat too, you know.

Yes, PDF makes it easier/cheaper to distribute a product. But all the work that went into it has to be paid for.

W.

Believe me, I appreciate that.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bosefius on 03 June 2019, 17:11:39
Proof for Print on Demand House Arano landed today

(https://i.ibb.co/Y0TLDG4/IMG-4960.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Z21MHCR)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZS74cCZ/IMG-4961.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PM0X18S)

(https://i.ibb.co/27JcKVG/FB-IMG-1559603770734.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GvmCPYz)
(https://i.ibb.co/RhRpQp8/FB-IMG-1559603778304.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0BHjYj5)
(https://i.ibb.co/s9VKtBN/FB-IMG-1559603775649.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TMg4rC7)
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Post by: NeonKnight on 03 June 2019, 17:57:02
Proof for Print on Demand House Arano landed today

(https://i.ibb.co/Y0TLDG4/IMG-4960.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Z21MHCR)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZS74cCZ/IMG-4961.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PM0X18S)
what is the name of a young eagle (https://babynamesetc.com/animal)

And....While the cover looks great...The point of the baby name generator??
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 03 June 2019, 18:03:58
Trying to post more photos, but I can’t edit them right now and they seem to be too big for the site.
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Post by: Deadborder on 03 June 2019, 18:13:43
I'm Big Kev levels of excited
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Post by: Bosefius on 03 June 2019, 18:20:46
Photos updated, not sure why that site started embedding other links.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Empyrus on 03 June 2019, 18:22:11
So, we are likely looking at one or two days more at this point?

Pretty good timing, since BATTLETECH's second expansion is released in about 18 hours or so.
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Post by: rebs on 03 June 2019, 18:47:52
The House Arano symbol would make a sweet tattoo.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: ActionButler on 03 June 2019, 19:17:17
And....While the cover looks great...The point of the baby name generator??

To generate baby names.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 03 June 2019, 19:30:34
That House Arano book looks so awesome. Can't wait
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Post by: Colt Ward on 03 June 2019, 20:36:47
The pics are a bit blurry- is that a hard back POD?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wildonion on 03 June 2019, 21:19:45
Physical copy is looking good, but has a price been listed for the POD? Some of those books get a little pricey.
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Post by: omega2010 on 03 June 2019, 22:15:35
The pics are a bit blurry- is that a hard back POD?
Paperback
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: SteelRaven on 03 June 2019, 22:20:13
Right when I get kicked in the shorts financially. Going to have to wait myself :(
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Deadborder on 04 June 2019, 01:43:10
Time for the F5 mashing to commence
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: mbear on 04 June 2019, 05:59:23
Proof for Print on Demand House Arano landed today

*snip*

Bosefius, is the quality of the POD book high enough? I mean is it comparable to the other perfect bound books we've received from CGL? (I'm willing to try POD but if the pages fall out three days after I get it because of crappy glue I'm going to be annoyed.)

And....While the cover looks great...The point of the baby name generator??

How do you think they named the characters in the game? ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Frabby on 04 June 2019, 07:22:02
Bosefius, is the quality of the POD book high enough? I mean is it comparable to the other perfect bound books we've received from CGL? (I'm willing to try POD but if the pages fall out three days after I get it because of crappy glue I'm going to be annoyed.)
My POD copy of Forever Faithful is indistinguishable, quality-wise, from previous CGL books - to the point where I suspect the other books (Betrayal of Ideals GenCon edition, The Nellus Academy Incident, The Anvil/A Splinter of Hope, BattleCorps anthologies) were produced through a similar process even if they weren't POD.
That said, my Forever Faithful copy has an Amazon imprint indicating a German production facility. I know next to nothing about POD logistics, but I strongly suspect there's a number of production sites scattered all over the globe. And the quality of the end product will likely depend on the specific site that produced it. (Though Amazon will strive to make all output as equal as possible, quality-wise.)

Looking forward to holding House Arano in my hands, and am excited and curious about how it will turn out.
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Post by: Mendrugo on 04 June 2019, 07:30:03
(I'm willing to try POD but if the pages fall out three days after I get it because of crappy glue I'm going to be annoyed.)

Well, they ARE trying to make this one in the style of the original House sourcebooks.  Crackling glue and loose pages would just be an homage.  ;)
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Post by: Sartris on 04 June 2019, 08:11:40
Well, they ARE trying to make this one in the style of the original House sourcebooks.  Crackling glue and loose pages would just be an homage.  ;)

free bonus! librarian's book repair kit!

My POD copy of Forever Faithful is indistinguishable, quality-wise, from previous CGL books - to the point where I suspect the other books (Betrayal of Ideals GenCon edition, The Nellus Academy Incident, The Anvil/A Splinter of Hope, BattleCorps anthologies) were produced through a similar process even if they weren't POD.
That said, my Forever Faithful copy has an Amazon imprint indicating a German production facility. I know next to nothing about POD logistics, but I strongly suspect there's a number of production sites scattered all over the globe. And the quality of the end product will likely depend on the specific site that produced it. (Though Amazon will strive to make all output as equal as possible, quality-wise.)

Looking forward to holding House Arano in my hands, and am excited and curious about how it will turn out.

agreed on the PoD novel quality. i have them alongside the BC compilations and you wouldn't know they were printed days after I ordered them unless you looked in the back for the print date barcode. my US books come out of Delaware on the east coast. unsure if there are other printers used in the US or Canada. this is an important run on the PoD front because afaik it's the first run at color pages. good results on that would be promising for the viability of the system.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bosefius on 04 June 2019, 08:22:06
Bosefius, is the quality of the POD book high enough? I mean is it comparable to the other perfect bound books we've received from CGL? (I'm willing to try POD but if the pages fall out three days after I get it because of crappy glue I'm going to be annoyed.)

How do you think they named the characters in the game? ;)

I have no clue, I don't have the Proof, just posted pictures that were sent to me.

But I really to point out that the novels were all done through Amazon while this is being done through Drive Thru RPG so comparing this to the novels is pointless.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Garrand on 04 June 2019, 08:22:14
Right when I get kicked in the shorts financially. Going to have to wait myself :(

Millions of college students prove you can survive indefinitely on cheap Ramen. That's always an option...

Damon.
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Post by: Weirdo on 04 June 2019, 08:35:56
College students have a far more resilient metabolism than other folks, and there are some for whom even ramen can be a drain. Even for folks whose situation is not that tight, money problems are enough of a drain on the soul without people making light of it.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: RomulusDC on 04 June 2019, 09:30:28
On the topic of failed bindings, my original mercenaries handbook binding just failed after years of tough love.
This looks good. I don’t know anything about this house though. Could someone give a  brief timeline run down? When is this book ‘set’?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 04 June 2019, 09:37:40
House Arano is from the Harebrained Schemes "BattleTech" PC game - far too much content to summarize here. The game is set in the mid-3020s, and this sourcebook is set in the couple of years just after the game, pre-4SW.

Here's the plot summary of the game - obviously, don't read it if you ever plan on playing through the game: http://www.sarna.net/wiki/BattleTech_(Video_Game)#Plot_Synopsis (http://www.sarna.net/wiki/BattleTech_(Video_Game)#Plot_Synopsis)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: marauder648 on 04 June 2019, 09:57:49
All I can say is.

(https://i.imgur.com/lhjhbB9.gif)
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Post by: Colt Ward on 04 June 2019, 10:00:03
On the topic of failed bindings, my original mercenaries handbook binding just failed after years of tough love.
This looks good. I don’t know anything about this house though. Could someone give a  brief timeline run down? When is this book ‘set’?

Its a pretty solid look at being a merc in the early setting with a few big differences due to the platform- you do not pay to repair armor or reload ammo.  Its out in the periphery between the TC, MoC and CC near the planet of Detroit.  The area is one of my favorite places to play after the Chaos March due to it being space mostly unclaimed by the big powers.
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Post by: NeonKnight on 04 June 2019, 10:10:17
How do you think they named the characters in the game? ;)

I'm just gonna say, interesting view into what else Bosefius was looking at when he posted...And a good reminder to the rest of us to DOUBLE CHECK those copied URL's...lest you get an accidental Ban...*wink-wink - if ya know what I mean - wink-wink, nudge-nudge, say no more, say no more!*  ^-^
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Post by: Cubby on 04 June 2019, 11:11:40
I'm just gonna say, interesting view into what else Bosefius was looking at when he posted...And a good reminder to the rest of us to DOUBLE CHECK those copied URL's...lest you get an accidental Ban...*wink-wink - if ya know what I mean - wink-wink, nudge-nudge, say no more, say no more!*  ^-^

It's a quirk of imgbb.com - if you upload pictures, it sometimes likes to sneak in a garbage link like that. Not tied to Bosefius' recent surfing history or anything else. And, my fault for not warning him ahead of time.
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Post by: NeonKnight on 04 June 2019, 11:15:37
It's a quirk of imgbb.com - if you upload pictures, it sometimes likes to sneak in a garbage link like that. Not tied to Bosefius' recent surfing history or anything else. And, my fault for not warning him ahead of time.

Cool, cool....gonna have to keep a closer eye on madcappelan's post and links :P
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Post by: ArchonDan on 04 June 2019, 11:20:54
Book looks great, it will fit right in with the older house books! Well the 3 I have, still missing FWL and Liao  :-[
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: SteveRestless on 04 June 2019, 13:00:24
It's very unlikely to be ready by then. I’m not sure what there is to announce? It wasn’t promised for then and we haven’t had any updates on it that I can think of that we need to follow up or correct? People were posting assumptions and I corrected them.

Well, the general sentiment espoused by people of significance, in the post-gencon-2018 discussions (if you really want, I can go forum diving for instances) was "no promises, hope we can release ilclan next gencon" followed by more or less silence on the matter until now. At least, I haven't seen any indications prior to the current discussion that this was no longer the case. It may or may not even have been referred to as ilClan, I don't remember. But there were definitely people eager to see when the next installment following Shattered Fortress came out, and "maybe next gencon, we hope" was the general answer I recall seeing.

That said, if the next plot-forward book is unlikely to come out for gencon, would it be possible to get some indication when it might be more likely, to better calibrate our hopes and expectations?


Edit: I went diving, and it was GenCon18's CGL Panel where it was mentioned that the hope for ilClan was GenCon19.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bosefius on 04 June 2019, 13:00:51
I'm just gonna say, interesting view into what else Bosefius was looking at when he posted...And a good reminder to the rest of us to DOUBLE CHECK those copied URL's...lest you get an accidental Ban...*wink-wink - if ya know what I mean - wink-wink, nudge-nudge, say no more, say no more!*  ^-^

The site used to modify photos for the forums added the links into the code.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 04 June 2019, 13:09:14
Which will get here first . . . my new Marauder T-shirt or House Arano PDF . . .

Having seen people mention the CGL Store's 'tracking' feature . . . its really odd that it does not considering you can pretty much watch a package travel across the country just by providing the number- you do not even have to do it through your website, just give the number lol.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 04 June 2019, 14:08:06
That said, if the next plot-forward book is unlikely to come out for gencon, would it be possible to get some indication when it might be more likely, to better calibrate our hopes and expectations?
i absolutely do not have an answer for you. I understand how badly you want one, and please know I would give you one if I could. The only think I can think of saying, hopefully without overstepping and getting me in any trouble, is that there is no new piece of the story to tell until we have a _good_ story to tell. We’re working on it, and have been working on it. But that is also measured against other things we need to focus on.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: SteveRestless on 04 June 2019, 14:15:32
Knowing not to expect anything in the foreseeable future is the second most useful answer I could receive. Thank you. I really do appreciate it.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 04 June 2019, 14:46:20
While I was looking forward to the next book, we are getting some good stuff coming out so . . .
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 04 June 2019, 14:51:35
Wait for it…wait for it…
It’s only half way though the year. We’ve got some cool, big stuff to start kicking out.
 :thumbsup:
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Post by: Colt Ward on 04 June 2019, 15:09:22
Oh, I am good with that, just checking Drive Thru for House Arano . . . like I said, be interesting to see if my T-Shirt gets here or Arano drops first.
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Post by: wolfspider on 04 June 2019, 15:55:15
Wait for it…wait for it…
It’s only half way though the year. We’ve got some cool, big stuff to start kicking out.
 :thumbsup:

Nice! You said "Kicking" LOL  >:D
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: RomulusDC on 04 June 2019, 18:00:25
House Arano is from the Harebrained Schemes "BattleTech" PC game - far too much content to summarize here. The game is set in the mid-3020s, and this sourcebook is set in the couple of years just after the game, pre-4SW.

Here's the plot summary of the game - obviously, don't read it if you ever plan on playing through the game: http://www.sarna.net/wiki/BattleTech_(Video_Game)#Plot_Synopsis (http://www.sarna.net/wiki/BattleTech_(Video_Game)#Plot_Synopsis)

Thank you for this.
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Post by: Cubby on 04 June 2019, 20:39:59
Thank you for this.

No problem. And actually, looking more closely at that link, there really aren't any spoilers for the game storyline. It's all setup material.

The sourcebook, OTOH, assumes you've played the game or don't care knowing the broad strokes of what happens.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 07 June 2019, 12:04:45
Well...

House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition Update - May 30

The files for House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition were turned over for POD (print on demand) on Friday May 24th and processing began. After some technical revisions, the file was marked approved for proofing on Wednesday May 29th, and production began on a physical proof. Once the proof is created, it will be shipped overnight for inspection and approval (or revision). The turnaround time could be between 3-5 days, with an additional day for review (and creation of revisions if needed).

With this final timeframe, it does not appear that we will meet our May 31st release date, but will absolutely have the POD and PDF book available for purchase by June 7th.

Thank you again for your patience.

Ray Arrastia
BattleTech Assistant Line Developer


Up in store yet?
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Post by: Colt Ward on 07 June 2019, 12:15:50
Any word on status of new Game boxes?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Scotty on 07 June 2019, 12:34:47
Any word on status of new Game boxes?

Before you start what I'm sure will be a spicy rumor, what are you actually asking about?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Maingunnery on 07 June 2019, 12:43:07
Any word on status of new Game boxes?
I ordered an GoAC in march (from an importer) and it just came in this week.
So it could be part of the new printing.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 07 June 2019, 12:52:46
Before you start what I'm sure will be a spicy rumor, what are you actually asking about?

While I would love to be asking about a remote controlled from my smartphone TW scale Marauder mini that has blue LEDs for the PPCs in its arms and makes pew pew sounds . . . yeah, I was asking about the reprinting of the Game of Armored Combat box.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 07 June 2019, 13:29:22
While I would love to be asking about a remote controlled from my smartphone TW scale Marauder mini that has blue LEDs for the PPCs in its arms and makes pew pew sounds . . . yeah, I was asking about the reprinting of the Game of Armored Combat box.

Hoping to have something on that next week. In process, but I'll have a better answer soon.

Up in store yet?

Nope.

And remember, that'll be the DTRPG store, not CGL's.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 07 June 2019, 13:37:34
Hoping to have something on that next week. In process, but I'll have a better answer soon.

Nope.

And remember, that'll be the DTRPG store, not CGL's.

Can't buy just the PDF?
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Post by: Dmon on 07 June 2019, 13:51:53
Sat here refreshing in hope that the Arano Restoration book shows up!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 07 June 2019, 16:35:20
So not today...but maybe Sat???
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Post by: Cyc on 07 June 2019, 17:23:08
So not today...but maybe Sat???

Today is Saturday though...

*shakes fist at international dateline*

Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 07 June 2019, 20:44:36
House Arano update: we have eagerly been waiting clearance from our PoD printer that the final files have been processed and are ready to go, which would allow us to make the book available for purchase. Like many of you, we have eagerly “mashing the F5 button” all day, but as of this writing it is still not available.

I do not believe there will be any change to the status over the weekend, but as soon as we have the green light from the printer and DriveThruRPG, we will announce the release of the book.

Thank you for your continued patience.

Ray Arrastia
BattleTech Assistant Line Developer.
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Post by: Wildonion on 07 June 2019, 21:44:09
Can't be upset by the delay this time. Sounds like it is completely on the printer's side of things! Thanks for the update, Adrian. :thumbsup:
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Post by: mrbooth on 07 June 2019, 22:27:55
So after House Arano  what is next for plot books?  Any movement on TRO golden century or something else
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: SCC on 07 June 2019, 23:12:18
So after House Arano  what is next for plot books?  Any movement on TRO golden century or something else
House Arano isn't a plot book, but the next expected one is ilClan.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 08 June 2019, 01:12:49
Hoping to have something on that next week. In process, but I'll have a better answer soon.

So my previously unmentioned wish for a smartphone remote table top scale Marauder with blue LED lights when that come on when the PPCs fire is in the works!?

jklol . . . thanks for the update on the GoAC box and Arano guys.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Frabby on 08 June 2019, 03:14:48
Release Dates are jinxed, and in the fashion of Douglas Adams's Bistromatic Drive only serve to establish on which day the product won't come out. Everybody knows that.

With that out of the way, my current understanding is that the HB:Arano will be available exclusively as a PoD product (no PDF), and exclusively via DrivethruRPG, right?
If so, and having never used this vendor before myself, do they even offer PoD shipment to Germany?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 08 June 2019, 03:36:55
Release Dates are jinxed, and in the fashion of Douglas Adams's Bistromatic Drive only serve to establish on which day the product won't come out. Everybody knows that.

With that out of the way, my current understanding is that the HB:Arano will be available exclusively as a PoD product (no PDF), and exclusively via DrivethruRPG, right?
If so, and having never used this vendor before myself, do they even offer PoD shipment to Germany?

Quote
House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition
Release Date: 4/26/2019

High Lady Kamea Arano led a rebellion, dispatched the usurpers who stole her throne, dismantled their dictatorial government, and restored peace to the Aurigan Coalition. Now her true battle begins…

The Arano Restoration has succeeded, and High Lady Kamea rules over the reunited Aurigan Coalition. But all is not well – the Coalition’s hardscrabble planets teeter on the brink of collapse, while its powerful neighbors await another chance to subvert House Arano. More than ever, the Coalition needs warriors willing to do whatever it takes to claim victory.

Step into the Aurigan Coalition in this Print-on-Demand and PDF product which brings the setting of the hit PC strategy game BattleTech into the long-running tabletop experience. Learn the proud history of the Coalition and its hope for the future, then take up the defense of the Arano dynasty with four all-new scenarios picking up where the game left off. House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition is authored by Harebrained Schemes’ Andrew McIntosh and Kiva Maginn, writer and developer of the BattleTech PC game.

To survive on the fringes of the Inner Sphere, those of noble birth must once again call on champions of mercenary mind.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Frabby on 08 June 2019, 03:46:27
Oh, okay. (Mumblemumblereadingcomprehension... thank you. :) ). So there is a Plan B.
However, my Plan A remains to obtain a physical copy. We'll see if that works out, and for what price.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 08 June 2019, 09:45:32
Thanx Lorcan, I was starting to wonder if the PDF part was now a no-go.....though it could still be...who knows.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Starbuck on 08 June 2019, 10:33:37
. . . and exclusively via DrivethruRPG, right?
If so, and having never used this vendor before myself, do they even offer PoD shipment to Germany?

they use printers in the US and UK, and yes, they ship to germany

https://support.drivethrurpg.com/hc/en-us/articles/209936913-Why-is-the-shipping-cost-higher-than-I-expected-

https://support.drivethrurpg.com/hc/en-us/articles/209936893-Estimated-Shipping-Costs-For-Printed-Products
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Kargush on 08 June 2019, 11:10:13
From...
With this final timeframe, it does not appear that we will meet our May 31st release date, but will absolutely have the POD and PDF book available for purchase by June 7th.

...to...
House Arano update: we have eagerly been waiting clearance from our PoD printer that the final files have been processed and are ready to go, which would allow us to make the book available for purchase. Like many of you, we have eagerly “mashing the F5 button” all day, but as of this writing it is still not available.

I do not believe there will be any change to the status over the weekend, but as soon as we have the green light from the printer and DriveThruRPG, we will announce the release of the book.

Thank you for your continued patience.

Ray Arrastia
BattleTech Assistant Line Developer.

This is honestly getting a tad tiresome. Why not just add a week to the original estimate to begin with?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Weirdo on 08 June 2019, 11:16:15
From...
...to...
This is honestly getting a tad tiresome. Why not just add a week to the original estimate to begin with?

Because that's how you challenge the universe to slow you down by eight days.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Tyler Jorgensson on 08 June 2019, 11:25:31
Because that's how you challenge the universe to slow you down by eight days.

Because Murphy's Law clearly.


Whenever it comes I'm ready... to wait until the next payday
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Kargush on 08 June 2019, 11:29:24
Because that's how you challenge the universe to slow you down by eight days.
::)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 08 June 2019, 12:02:44
Nope, no more dates. We’ve never dealt with this process before, and it’s a learning experience. We’re being open about that. We’re on this ride together now, and it’ll be released once it’s been cleared.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Azakael on 08 June 2019, 14:01:34
This is honestly getting a tad tiresome. Why not just add a week to the original estimate to begin with?

You know this kind of response is exactly why we've rarely had hard dates for anything in a long, long time?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Geont on 08 June 2019, 15:06:10
Release Dates are jinxed, and in the fashion of Douglas Adams's Bistromatic Drive only serve to establish on which day the product won't come out. Everybody knows that.

With that out of the way, my current understanding is that the HB:Arano will be available exclusively as a PoD product (no PDF), and exclusively via DrivethruRPG, right?
If so, and having never used this vendor before myself, do they even offer PoD shipment to Germany?

If I remember correctly Onebookshelf (Drivethru family owner) has made deal with printing facility in Europe that is able to print most of PoD stuff (not cards as I found last year). And I don't think it was mentioned as PoD only product. PoD is being the most difficult part as I see it. They publish books simultaneously, PDF and PoD. I don't expect it being different for HB: Arano.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Geont on 08 June 2019, 15:08:21
Nope, no more dates. We’ve never dealt with this process before, and it’s a learning experience. We’re being open about that. We’re on this ride together now, and it’ll be released once it’s been cleared.

The worst would be not being open about it. You are handling it probably the best way as you can in this situation.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 08 June 2019, 15:57:01
I'm glad your getting the bugs out of the situation. It sucks but it also happens.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Korzon77 on 08 June 2019, 17:06:53
I keep in mind a simple fact--until the product is out, they ain't earning money on it.

Everyone likes money.

Which means that they are just as eager to get this out the door as we are to buy it, and are doing everything they can to achieve that happy day.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 08 June 2019, 22:44:12
they are just as eager to get this out the door as we are to buy it, and are doing everything they can to achieve that happy day.
A logic that is somehow lost upon most folks...
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Weirdo on 08 June 2019, 23:24:37
A logic that is somehow lost upon most folks...

A slightly more accurate version...
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Greatclub on 09 June 2019, 01:59:58
apparently the local distributor is out of map set grasslands. Any idea when the next batch and/or set is coming out?

Serves me right for trying to space out my purchases.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 09 June 2019, 07:59:08
If you’re in the US it can still be found for retail price online
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 09 June 2019, 15:20:06
I'm close to being terminally confused. So is the book going to be not released as a PDF?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Alexander Knight on 09 June 2019, 15:25:09
I'm close to being terminally confused. So is the book going to be not released as a PDF?

The book will be released as a PDF.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Kargush on 09 June 2019, 15:51:51
You know this kind of response is exactly why we've rarely had hard dates for anything in a long, long time?
Curious, I thought the delays had something to do with the lack of hard dates. I must be getting old. This is, what, the second or third delay on this book alone?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Fat Guy on 09 June 2019, 16:01:35
Give 'em a break. This their first time attempting a PoD sourcebook.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Liam's Ghost on 09 June 2019, 16:50:37
Curious, I thought the delays had something to do with the lack of hard dates. I must be getting old. This is, what, the second or third delay on this book alone?

In the old days, the delays still happened, they just didn't talk about them as much.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 09 June 2019, 18:01:51
Curious, I thought the delays had something to do with the lack of hard dates. I must be getting old. This is, what, the second or third delay on this book alone?

Yeah, to be honest I would prefer to be kept updated like we have been- to me it lets me plan my budget a bit better.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: LastChanceCav on 09 June 2019, 20:39:39
We as a community have been utterly spoiled by the openess and transparency of  CGL. In the long run weve had  more good surprises than bad, and the only reason we get so worked up is becuse they share so much to get excited about.

Keep up the good work Catalyst, my wallet is ready when you are  :thumbsup:

Cheers,
LCC
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Korzon77 on 09 June 2019, 20:42:47
We as a community have been utterly spoiled by the openess and transparency of  CGL. In the long run weve had  more good surprises than bad, and the only reason we get so worked up is becuse they share so much to get excited about.

Keep up the good work Catalyst, my wallet is ready when you are  :thumbsup:

Cheers,
LCC

It's the internet. I mean, before everyone had internet connections, well, you knew the product was in when you walked into your FLGS and there it was. At best, you might have Diamond or the industry trades, and they'd tell you "it's due out fourth quarter, ,1985"

Now, because we have this instant communications system, and because of that, delays that we once never noticed jsut wear on us, like we were waiting for that new kidney from some unreliable Shadowrun organleggers.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 09 June 2019, 20:58:11
the delays are a bummer, but it certainly beats the "we want to release it but we can't because reasons" that happened with Second Succession War
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: SCC on 09 June 2019, 21:26:25
the delays are a bummer, but it certainly beats the "we want to release it but we can't because reasons" that happened with Second Succession War
What I find a bit perplexing is the fact that they never seem to see these delays coming, you'd think they be aware of these potential problems by now.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Greatclub on 09 June 2019, 22:19:41
Humans are either optimistic or unmotivated, in my experience. They know about them, they just hope they won't happen.

You know the story about the marines who know that most of them are going to die in the assault; sucks to be those other guys.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 09 June 2019, 22:38:26
A schedule, like I am sure theirs are, have some slippage put in.  But I would rather know what is going on- especially as they try to put the envelope- than hear nothing.

Some of you seem intent on complaining until we get back to the point we hear nothing and see no previews- just 'Surprise!  Here is our new product!'  I understand the problems, and I am glad to have gotten the peaks when the date has gotten pushed out.   Love seeing ToC to know what is in the product.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Two Guns Blazing on 09 June 2019, 23:56:57
I **expect** delays...with Kickstarter having been going for around 10 years now, I would have thought most gamers are fully acclimatised to delays and factor in the expectation of inevitable delays.

I'd much prefer to keep the updates/previews and "Should be next month" tidbits rolling in than get nothing at all...
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Weirdo on 10 June 2019, 00:00:32
What I find a bit perplexing is the fact that they never seem to see these delays coming, you'd think they be aware of these potential problems by now.

I find your assumption that it's the same problems each time to be very interesting, especially with a brand new book format.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cache on 10 June 2019, 15:22:15
I'd much prefer to keep the updates/previews and "Should be next month" tidbits rolling in than get nothing at all...
I'm with you.  Updates and previews for me, even if the update is, "shit hit the fan... it's gonna be a bit."

I appreciate the openness.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: rebs on 10 June 2019, 16:11:19
Right, its better than no word at all.  We can at least feel included as well as ne able to plot our gaming budgets. 
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Tyler Jorgensson on 10 June 2019, 16:26:03
Right, its better than no word at all.  We can at least feel included as well as ne able to plot our gaming budgets.

OMG you have a budget? :o

Look consider it a loading progress bar: some people don't mind because they can relax and read a book while it's loading up. The rest are spam clicking their mouse trying to make it download faster so they can speed run the game. We're sitting at the Doctors Office but the workers are taking their time to inform us we haven't been forgotten it's just expect delays.

I'm done with metaphors for today I swear!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: cawest on 10 June 2019, 20:59:33
I'm with you.  Updates and previews for me, even if the update is, "shit hit the fan... it's gonna be a bit."

I appreciate the openness.

I agree. 
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Phobos101 on 11 June 2019, 08:03:06
the squeaky wheel gets the grease, and unfortunately the people who quietly enjoy what updates we do get don't make as much noise as someone who goes on a vitriolic rant every time a release date gets pushed. I hope TPTB realise this and continue to keep us updated in the future.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Fat Guy on 11 June 2019, 08:50:12
The only shame is now there is zero chance of this making Origins.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 11 June 2019, 09:10:10
It was never going to be a physical product at Origins or GenCon IIRC- PDF & PoD only.  Yup, see Lorcan's post at the top of page 31 where he quotes the original release.  Now, might they have one PoD's on hand to show off?  Sure I guess, but not stacks for sale afaik.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 11 June 2019, 09:30:36
The only shame is now there is zero chance of this making Origins.
We’ll see.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 11 June 2019, 09:35:16
It was never going to be a physical product at Origins or GenCon IIRC- PDF & PoD only.  Yup, see Lorcan's post at the top of page 31 where he quotes the original release.  Now, might they have one PoD's on hand to show off?  Sure I guess, but not stacks for sale afaik.

I'm am going to preface this with the following disclaimer: EVERYTHING I SAY BELOW IS PURE SPECULATION AND NOT BASED ON ANY SOLID OR INSIDER KNOWLEDGE

Keep in mind that CGL have done limited print runs in the past for fiction that has been released as PoD in general - notably A Splinter of Hope/The Anvil was available at cons last year.  This doesn't mean there'll definitely be physical copies of House Arano available at cons this year, but CGL has priors on this front.

I am also going to postface this with an almost identical disclaimer: EVERYTHING I SAY ABOVE IS PURE SPECULATION AND NOT BASED ON ANY SOLID OR INSIDER KNOWLEDGE
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 11 June 2019, 10:31:27
It will be BOTH.
YES there are reasons the pdf isn’t out first.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 11 June 2019, 10:32:04
It will be BOTH.
YES there are reasons the pdf isn’t out first.

Thank You.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 11 June 2019, 10:41:15
YES there are reasons the pdf isn’t out first.

I can guess as to the reasons why, but its not a product I was expecting in the first place so waiting a few more days *refreshes DriveThruRPG search* is not a big deal.  I appreciated the ToC, really appreciated it.  Now if we could get a peak at half of the Sleipner APC RS . . . a taste to hold us over . . .
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Euphonium on 11 June 2019, 11:06:43
It will be BOTH.
YES there are reasons the pdf isn’t out first.

Is the mess with the Shadowrun Sprawl Ops Kickstarter impacting on BattleTech releases or are the resources for SR & BT totally separate? The Kickstarter updates are starting to make it sound like CGL is having to divert a lot of effort into sorting things out.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 11 June 2019, 11:43:05
Is the mess with the Shadowrun Sprawl Ops Kickstarter impacting on BattleTech releases or are the resources for SR & BT totally separate? The Kickstarter updates are starting to make it sound like CGL is having to divert a lot of effort into sorting things out.

Unrelated to the House Arano book.

The decision not to release the PDF before/separate from the POD book is a marketing choice, to try to ensure a strong launch for this new product type. Potentially cutting into the sales of the first-ever POD book for the sake of getting a PDF to you a couple of days sooner, is not the way to get more POD.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Empyrus on 11 June 2019, 13:10:55
Definitively interested in ordering a POD version, might ignore that completely if PDF were available first.
Concerned about total cost though, mostly due to shipping costs, which seem to be 9 euros. Not necessarily bad in itself, unless it is significant fraction of a book... Don't have anything else i'm interested in ordering in print right now. But no matter, i'll get the book either way.

Been replaying the game and finding i like it more this time around (patches and DLCs have improved it), kind of impatient for the sourcebook...


Also going back some weeks or months, i skipped over RS Succession Wars. What new variants did it have? Might pick it up while getting House Arano.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 11 June 2019, 14:24:11
I know I will be getting the PDF of the House Arano book. I dont think I will make it to any of the big conventions this year...so DTF is hard to get. The other thing that is hard is the fact that only one FLGS in a hour drive carries Battletech books....or any product of Battletech.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 11 June 2019, 14:32:26
I know I will be getting the PDF of the House Arano book. I dont think I will make it to any of the big conventions this year...so DTF is hard to get. The other thing that is hard is the fact that only one FLGS in a hour drive carries Battletech books....or any product of Battletech.

 . . . which is why they are exploring Print on Demand?  It gets a PDF product printed and shipped to you instead of mass printings of a book where they hope for velocity of sales?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cache on 11 June 2019, 15:44:35
Also going back some weeks or months, i skipped over RS Succession Wars. What new variants did it have? Might pick it up while getting House Arano.
Sarris made a good comparison spreadsheet here: https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=64807.0

Looks like all variants with a debut date of "uknown" are new, except the Clint. So... 6 of them. Maybe.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: ActionButler on 11 June 2019, 15:47:12
I really hope the on-demand stuff takes off.  As much as I like being able to carry around a library of Battletech books on my tablet so I can look up rules on the fly, I definitely prefer reading a physical book when it comes to source material. 
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Euphonium on 11 June 2019, 17:38:41
Unrelated to the House Arano book.

The decision not to release the PDF before/separate from the POD book is a marketing choice, to try to ensure a strong launch for this new product type. Potentially cutting into the sales of the first-ever POD book for the sake of getting a PDF to you a couple of days sooner, is not the way to get more POD.

Thank you for the quick response!

I like the idea of PoD, especially if there are PoD/PDF combos. It tempts me to start buying physical books again.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 12 June 2019, 04:06:13
Definitively interested in ordering a POD version, might ignore that completely if PDF were available first.
Concerned about total cost though, mostly due to shipping costs, which seem to be 9 euros. Not necessarily bad in itself, unless it is significant fraction of a book... Don't have anything else i'm interested in ordering in print right now. But no matter, i'll get the book either way.

I've done some checking for myself, I did a test cart with one Eclipse Phase PoD sourcebook and then another with three in there.  Standard shipping for one (5-10 day delivery time) to Ireland was €5.75, and for three was €6.79.  Premium shipping (no delivery time listed) was €12.60 for either volume.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: marauder648 on 12 June 2019, 04:10:43
I'll probably take the PoD option, I like having a dead tree to read.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Mendrugo on 12 June 2019, 13:03:08
I understand why hard copies are popular, but as someone who moves every 1-3 years and pays $3/lb if I go over my weight allowance, I've gone fully digital.  Plus, I love the keyword search capability for PDFs.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 12 June 2019, 14:45:21
Yikes I’d sell my dead tree collection too.

I don’t have a ton of interest in this particular book but I’m going to get the pod to do my part in encouraging further offerings
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Xiwo Xerase on 12 June 2019, 15:20:01
While I'm fine with electronic offerings, I'm going to get the PoD version as well because I'd like to see this experiment succeed.  I'd like to see what they offer in the future.  (I'd really like to see PoD for out-of-print CGL books but no one's promised that.  It's pretty unlikely but, hey, I can dream.)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 12 June 2019, 16:03:50
When people are not upset becuase product is delayed that is a bad thing. Things happen no matter what I will order the book and be happy when I get it.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Luciora on 12 June 2019, 16:19:29
I bought Forever Faithful on release as  POD.  It's still on my shelf and will be coming with me on my camping trip in a week.  Can't wait!

I suspect i'll have a pdf Arano at some point too, but i'll get the POD and pay much more attention to that for sure when available.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: beachhead1985 on 12 June 2019, 18:18:55
Finally got my copy of Forever Faithful. No issues; just been trying to be more fiscally responsible and have not bought books in 6 months.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Frabby on 13 June 2019, 00:43:13
Finally got my copy of Forever Faithful. No issues; just been trying to be more fiscally responsible and have not bought books in 6 months.
  ;D  My wife and I have that agreement in reverse, in that books default to zero cost for the purpose of "fiscal responsibility". That includes PoD BattleTech books.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 13 June 2019, 12:09:53
BattleTech: Clan Invasion coming exclusively to Kickstarter on July 17!

Discuss here: https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=65650.0 (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=65650.0)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 13 June 2019, 12:53:34
Its not April 1st . . .
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 13 June 2019, 13:00:48
“Something big is quickly coming together”

-Anthony “y’all must have forgot” Scroggins
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: nckestrel on 13 June 2019, 13:08:38
And there's a free Chaos Campaign:Succession Wars PDF while we're waiting for the kickstarter.  In between all the speculation :).
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 13 June 2019, 13:14:33
And there's a free Chaos Campaign:Succession Wars PDF while we're waiting for the kickstarter.  In between all the speculation :).

Is this currently up and available, or an upcoming in the future?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: nckestrel on 13 June 2019, 13:43:06
Is this currently up and available, or an upcoming in the future?

Up and available.
https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-chaos-campaign-succession-wars
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 13 June 2019, 13:43:39
Is this currently up and available, or an upcoming in the future?

Available now! For free! Go! Obtain it!

https://gph.is/1My8hkH (https://gph.is/1My8hkH)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Weirdo on 13 June 2019, 15:23:38
I like the new Chaos Campaign. Interesting tidbit: in a departure from the usual, a player's starting forces default to 3/4 pilots.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Daryk on 13 June 2019, 16:24:49
Any chance it's going to make it to the download page here vice the store?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 13 June 2019, 16:30:22
That's on my list for tonight. There's...a lot going on today.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Daryk on 13 June 2019, 16:31:23
No worries on it being immediately... I'm just glad to hear that it will be here!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 13 June 2019, 16:35:20
Free stuff is a good thing.
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Post by: Sartris on 13 June 2019, 17:02:36
it's also a nice refresh of the chaos campaign rules that have been around since 2008. the book is a good intro to both the turning points format and campaign ops
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 13 June 2019, 18:18:06
it's also a nice refresh of the chaos campaign rules that have been around since 2008. the book is a good intro to both the turning points format and campaign ops

Paul did an amazing job maintaining the flavor of the Chaos Campaign system while stripping it down to be compliant with just the new boxes. Kudos!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: cawest on 13 June 2019, 20:46:27
Up and available.
https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-chaos-campaign-succession-wars

yea but you have to have an account on that web site to get it.   :(
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Greatclub on 13 June 2019, 21:42:40
lots of German battletech added since I last checked.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 13 June 2019, 22:04:51
yea but you have to have an account on that web site to get it.   :(
Ah...you can make new account. It don't cost nothing.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Greatclub on 13 June 2019, 22:24:37
Ah...you can make new account. It don't cost nothing.

It costs your data. And while I'd trust CGL further than facebook, that's a bloody low bar.

it might also cost spam unless you opt out.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 14 June 2019, 00:50:10
Any chance it's going to make it to the download page here vice the store?
That's on my list for tonight. There's...a lot going on today.

it should be available account-free soon™
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 14 June 2019, 07:45:16
Available now! For free! Go! Obtain it!

https://gph.is/1My8hkH (https://gph.is/1My8hkH)

Is there a discount if we get two?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Karasu on 14 June 2019, 07:46:15
That's some Dropships and Jumpships art in the Succession Wars Chaos Campaign thing.

The Planetary Assault min-campaign really reminds me of the old Renegade Legion: Centurion Operational Game.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Weirdo on 14 June 2019, 08:20:45
Hmmm...switch to BV balancing instead of tonnage, give the Attacker Clan tech, remove the restriction on Defender outnumbering Attacker...that might be everything we need to use this as a Clan Invasion campaign... :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: mrbooth on 14 June 2019, 09:38:14
Any update on House Arano?
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Post by: Kargush on 14 June 2019, 09:43:52
Any update on House Arano?
Especially the pdf.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 14 June 2019, 09:46:26
Lol, Clan Box had completely distracted from the DriveThruRPG refresh!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Weirdo on 14 June 2019, 09:49:38
Nah, we can multitask. :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Scotty on 14 June 2019, 11:50:43
Alpha Strike Commander's Edition is here at Origins.
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Post by: Bedwyr on 14 June 2019, 12:01:07
Alpha Strike Commander's Edition is here at Origins.

Aside that this struck me:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3e/Strike_commander.jpg/220px-Strike_commander.jpg)

Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Thorvidar on 14 June 2019, 12:02:31
Alpha Strike Commander's Edition is here at Origins.

Any idea on a Street Release?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Pat Payne on 14 June 2019, 12:02:36
Alpha Strike Commander's Edition is here at Origins.

Between this, House Arano and the Kickstarter, ow, my wallet... ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Kargush on 14 June 2019, 12:48:34
Alpha Strike Commander's Edition is here at Origins.
I hear tell of the Arano book too. So how much longer to wait for us mere mortals?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 14 June 2019, 12:50:59
Out of our hands. I’m hitting the F5 button and as soon as it’s cleared to release it’ll be released.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: nckestrel on 14 June 2019, 13:20:46
Alpha Strike Commander's Edition is here at Origins.

Sweet!  How's the aerospace section? :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 14 June 2019, 14:00:49
Wow 2 new things released at Origins.
Nice!!!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: YingJanshi on 14 June 2019, 14:55:31
What about those dice bags and other sweet swag? Thought I heard mention some might find it's way to the Catalyst shop? (At least, the possibility was being looked into...)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 14 June 2019, 15:03:36
Doing my best to keep up.

What about those dice bags and other sweet swag? Thought I heard mention some might find it's way to the Catalyst shop? (At least, the possibility was being looked into...)

I'm pretty sure that's the plan, that they'll be available on the store "at some point in the near future." Wish I had more clarity, but my sense is that they're not con exclusives.

Any idea on a Street Release?

High on my list of dates to confirm, along with dates for the reprints of both boxed sets, but should be soon, next month or so. I need to double-check with the fulfillment center before saying more.

CC:SW download on the site tonight, if at all possible. Apologies for the delay but, uh, it's been quite the 24 hours.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Thorvidar on 14 June 2019, 15:47:17
Doing my best to keep up.

I'm pretty sure that's the plan, that they'll be available on the store "at some point in the near future." Wish I had more clarity, but my sense is that they're not con exclusives.

High on my list of dates to confirm, along with dates for the reprints of both boxed sets, but should be soon, next month or so. I need to double-check with the fulfillment center before saying more.

CC:SW download on the site tonight, if at all possible. Apologies for the delay but, uh, it's been quite the 24 hours.

nice Thanks for your reply.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bedwyr on 14 June 2019, 16:46:46
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bys-zjxhRSF/

Oooooh. Looks like an early print run to make the cons.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Daryk on 14 June 2019, 16:52:10
Excellent!  I'm going to take this as a sign of Catalyst's health... Prost!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 14 June 2019, 17:34:53
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bys-zjxhRSF/

Oooooh. Looks like an early print run to make the cons.

Me gusta
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Post by: Scotty on 14 June 2019, 18:39:36
Sweet!  How's the aerospace section? :)

I like it a lot.




I am slightly biased.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: YingJanshi on 14 June 2019, 19:24:12
Doing my best to keep up.

I'm pretty sure that's the plan, that they'll be available on the store "at some point in the near future." Wish I had more clarity, but my sense is that they're not con exclusives.

High on my list of dates to confirm, along with dates for the reprints of both boxed sets, but should be soon, next month or so. I need to double-check with the fulfillment center before saying more.

CC:SW download on the site tonight, if at all possible. Apologies for the delay but, uh, it's been quite the 24 hours.

Awesome! And thanks for being a cool Comm Guy! O0
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Two Guns Blazing on 14 June 2019, 20:07:55
Great news that full prints of Alpha Strike Commander's Edition are floating around -> will buy when made available...will also buy new hard copies of Total Warfare and Techmanual when made available...looks like the latter is not too far away either :)

Thanks for keeping the updates/sneak peaks and info rolling in guys, your efforts are appreciated :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Valkerie on 14 June 2019, 22:05:52
So much stuff... :drool:

What next guys?  My wallet is only so big... :-\
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Joewrightgm on 15 June 2019, 13:00:35
So... I noticed a few things: you guys are selling the miniatures from both boxes separately at the con, you have alpha strike cards for succession wars and clan invasion.

Should we expect any of these as stand alone product available for sale outside of a con environment?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Daryk on 15 June 2019, 13:01:49
Wait, the minis are available outside of the box set??  ???
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Joewrightgm on 15 June 2019, 13:16:26
As far as the con is concerned; on CGL’s Instagram, one of the photo sets shows the minis in the vacuum formed trays from both AGOAC and starter box
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Post by: Daryk on 15 June 2019, 13:19:52
So it's not just a display for the box sets?  You can actually buy them separately?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Joewrightgm on 15 June 2019, 13:25:17
No by the looks; they’re stacked up next to the other items of stock
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Daryk on 15 June 2019, 13:26:49
Sad I'm not there to see them myself...  :-\
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bedwyr on 15 June 2019, 13:42:38
I'm surmising from what someone, I think Anthony Scroggins, said on Facebook is that this is just overstock. I would guess it's a supply for people who have botched miniature components in the boxes and they're just selling off some spare trays as overstock now that they're confident in production.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Daryk on 15 June 2019, 13:50:43
That makes sense... still insanely jealous of those that are there, though...
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: rebs on 15 June 2019, 14:09:35
Origins always gets all the cool stuff.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 15 June 2019, 15:16:56
Wait . . . Beginner and GoAC minis are being sold separately at Origins?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Spaceman on 15 June 2019, 15:45:26
Whats the price of those minis?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 15 June 2019, 15:51:56
Not individually, but a complete set of just 10 minis, for $40.

We just had a productive meeting with the DriveThruRPG people, House Arano should be available this weekend finally. The copies we had At the show sold out in under 24 hours.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Frabby on 15 June 2019, 15:58:51
Out of idle curiosity, what are the differences between the copies you had at the show and the upcoming PoD edition?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 15 June 2019, 16:01:52
No difference. The exact same thing.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Charlie Tango on 15 June 2019, 18:33:16

Can someone let me know the MSRP on the Alpha Strike Commanders Edition please?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 15 June 2019, 18:44:34
Aerospace section in the new Alpha Strike, that is really awesome!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: nckestrel on 15 June 2019, 19:06:24
Aerospace section in the new Alpha Strike, that is really awesome!

*points over to that Scotty dude* Beers go that way.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Joewrightgm on 15 June 2019, 19:29:44
Not individually, but a complete set of just 10 minis, for $40.

We just had a productive meeting with the DriveThruRPG people, House Arano should be available this weekend finally. The copies we had At the show sold out in under 24 hours.

Soooo... when you gonna our the minis on the online store? :)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Two Guns Blazing on 15 June 2019, 19:47:17
Not individually, but a complete set of just 10 minis, for $40.

Sounds like the making of a great Kickstarter add-on...
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Liam's Ghost on 15 June 2019, 20:23:47
Soooo... when you gonna our the minis on the online store? :)

Please don't. I have no self control and can't really afford six sets just so I can break them up into companies evenly!  ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 15 June 2019, 20:26:41
You’ll have to cross your fingers that they don’t sell out at the con and cgl wants to unload them after the season ends

It’s nice when some crumbs from the con merch feast fall on the ground for us plebes like the faction dice from a few years ago
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Post by: Colt Ward on 15 June 2019, 21:03:56
F5 . . . F5 . . . F5 . . .
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: SCC on 15 June 2019, 22:37:40
You’ll have to cross your fingers that they don’t sell out at the con and cgl wants to unload them after the season ends

It’s nice when some crumbs from the con merch feast fall on the ground for us plebes like the faction dice from a few years ago
Probably more likely that scrappers will buy them out and sell them on e-bay
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 15 June 2019, 22:58:38
If I have a chance to beat the scalpers to the Webstore, that’s one more chance than I have otherwise.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: SCC on 16 June 2019, 00:39:57
If I have a chance to beat the scalpers to the Webstore, that’s one more chance than I have otherwise.
No, I'm saying scalpers will vacuum up the supply at the Cons
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Charlie Tango on 16 June 2019, 02:50:36
You’ll have to cross your fingers that they don’t sell out at the con and cgl wants to unload them after the season ends

It’s nice when some crumbs from the con merch feast fall on the ground for us plebes like the faction dice from a few years ago

If you had any idea of how much of a gigantic pain in the ass it is to get something like those "smalls" prepped to be able to sell them in the Webstore,  you'd understand why they don't do that very often.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 16 June 2019, 11:24:37
That’s why I said “it’s nice” vs “I demand”

Most of us can’t take time / afford to go to cons. We can dream without your wet towel

No, I'm saying scalpers will vacuum up the supply at the Cons

If cgl selling their own stuff online is such a pain in the ass, some gouging is better than zero chance at ever buying it
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: kinwolf on 16 June 2019, 12:03:41
House Arano is out as PoD
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Empyrus on 16 June 2019, 12:24:54
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/277779/BattleTech-House-Arano-The-Aurigan-Coalition?cPath=4328_4541

Mhhm. About 36€ for PDF+POD+basic shipping for me.

Gotta think whether i'll get PDF only or combo.
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Post by: Cubby on 16 June 2019, 12:28:12
House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition" Now Available in PDF and Print-on-Demand!

Let's close out Origins weekend with one more big announcement - "House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition" is now available in PDF and Print-on-Demand! https://tinyurl.com/HouseArano (https://tinyurl.com/HouseArano)

(https://i.ibb.co/2csJChZ/House-Arano-cover.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ss67NRW)
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Post by: YingJanshi on 16 June 2019, 12:36:40
House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition" Now Available in PDF and Print-on-Demand!

Let's close out Origins weekend with one more big announcement - "House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition" is now available in PDF and Print-on-Demand! https://tinyurl.com/HouseArano (https://tinyurl.com/HouseArano)

(https://i.ibb.co/2csJChZ/House-Arano-cover.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ss67NRW)

Yay! Buying as soon as I get home from work.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 16 June 2019, 12:36:54
Can someone let me know the MSRP on the Alpha Strike Commanders Edition please?

$39.99
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Post by: I am Belch II on 16 June 2019, 12:47:16
A great day with the release of the book
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Post by: Daryk on 16 June 2019, 12:49:12
Woo!  And finally caught up on my TTS too...  I should get my hard copy in a few weeks, but the rest of the day will be spent downloading all the BattleTech goodness...
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Empyrus on 16 June 2019, 12:54:35
PDF only it is, can't really afford printed book now. I'll get that later if i really like the book.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Daryk on 16 June 2019, 12:56:50
Just got the Succession Wars Chaos Campaign to download... can I just say that I  :smitten: the fact there's now a canon lance with an Eridani T-Bolt and a Marik Wolverine in it?  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Reldn on 16 June 2019, 13:01:08
Just netted the Arano book. Eagerly looking forward to sitting down and reading it! ...Now to probably quit just going around Mercenary-ing it up and actually finish the game's campaign before reading it. *laughs*
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Daryk on 16 June 2019, 13:10:08
Just got it to download, and I have to say, they handled the multi-dropship collar thing well.  +1 for rules consistency!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Daryk on 16 June 2019, 13:15:25
Strangely, all the pdfs downloaded without a hitch except for the Turning Points ones.  All three hung on "Preparing download" for a relatively long time.  Two just finally completed while I was typing this, but the third is still spinning... weird...
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Greatclub on 16 June 2019, 13:42:34
I've noticed that not all CGL products are watermarked. A quick glance says most of the turning points are, and house Arano isn't. Considering that it was literally modifying each file, I'm always surprised that they download that fast.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Daryk on 16 June 2019, 13:46:22
I'm guessing it has to do with file size.  The turning points have those monster planetary maps in them, so that probably holds things up.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 16 June 2019, 13:47:04
New topic thread started and stickied for House Arano discussion.
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Post by: Daryk on 16 June 2019, 13:47:58
And commented upon!  Thanks!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Charlie Tango on 16 June 2019, 15:30:03
$39.99

Thank you!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Kargush on 16 June 2019, 16:06:10
House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition" Now Available in PDF and Print-on-Demand!

Let's close out Origins weekend with one more big announcement - "House Arano: The Aurigan Coalition" is now available in PDF and Print-on-Demand! https://tinyurl.com/HouseArano (https://tinyurl.com/HouseArano)

(https://i.ibb.co/2csJChZ/House-Arano-cover.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ss67NRW)
Marvelous!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 16 June 2019, 16:25:02
Thanks, everyone, for your patience.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Kitsune413 on 16 June 2019, 17:54:11
Clan Invasion Kickstarter?!?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: faithless on 16 June 2019, 20:12:31
Thanks, everyone, for your patience.

Thank you and the team for continuing to churn out new stuff for us. My Arano PoD is purchased and I look forward to flipping through it.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 16 June 2019, 22:21:15
Yes, entering the Atlas and APCs in my HMP.  I am really liking the 65t APC, pretty well armored clown car.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: beachhead1985 on 17 June 2019, 08:48:42
I really like the succession wars chaos campaign package.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 17 June 2019, 09:09:11
I really like the succession wars chaos campaign package.

That one was a beast, and I will endlessly sing Paul's praises* for managing to retrofit a version of the Chaos Campaign that works with only the new boxed sets.

(*because I put him up to doing this)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bedwyr on 17 June 2019, 09:14:20
That one was a beast, and I will endlessly sing Paul's praises* for managing to retrofit a version of the Chaos Campaign that works with only the new boxed sets.

(*because I put him up to doing this)

Indeed. It's very well put together and fits just so in the art direction. I really rather want to give it a spin with the boxes. Good work Paul:

(https://images.8tracks.com/cover/i/009/631/828/78978989788989-3462.png?rect=0,0,500,500&q=98&fm=jpg&fit=max&w=320&h=320)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Daryk on 17 June 2019, 14:21:47
So THAT's what he's been so busy with the last few months... Great work!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: faithless on 17 June 2019, 15:45:48
That one was a beast, and I will endlessly sing Paul's praises* for managing to retrofit a version of the Chaos Campaign that works with only the new boxed sets.

(*because I put him up to doing this)

The succession wars chaos campaign pdf is well done. It really is a well rounded product.
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Post by: Tyler Jorgensson on 17 June 2019, 17:32:16
Get paid Friday time to go broke!!!

 
Marvelous!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Tyrant on 18 June 2019, 20:14:19
Not individually, but a complete set of just 10 minis, for $40.
If anyone can answer, any idea if these will be available at GenCon in this format?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 18 June 2019, 20:22:05
I’m sure if there are any left they will have them there
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bosefius on 19 June 2019, 12:05:37
If anyone can answer, any idea if these will be available at GenCon in this format?

Like Sartris said, if they still have extras they'll be there.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 20 June 2019, 07:57:00
Such great things coming very soon.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 20 June 2019, 08:50:01
What is in the current pipeline coming in anyways since House Arano came out?

We have some Touring the Stars, and Turning Points as far i'm aware of electronic, and physically the Alpha Strike Commander's book.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 20 June 2019, 08:54:45
What is in the current pipeline coming in anyways since House Arano came out?

We have some Touring the Stars, and Turning Points as far i'm aware of electronic, and physically the Alpha Strike Commander's book.

TRO: Clan Invasion was at Origins as well.
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Post by: nckestrel on 20 June 2019, 08:58:05
All of the announced Turnings Points have been released.  There was a POD compilation of the Jihad Turning Points mentioned at one point, but nothing since then and it's no longer on Coming Releases.

Alpha Strike has the Commander's Edition and two Unit Card decks (Succession Wars and Clan Invasion).
Technical Readout: Clan Invasion and the new TechManual were at Origins as well.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 20 June 2019, 09:32:03
What is in the current pipeline coming in anyways since House Arano came out?


Rum! I mean, that's pretty normal after Origins is over, IIRC.
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Post by: Two Guns Blazing on 20 June 2019, 09:32:30
Alpha Strike has the Commander's Edition and two Unit Card decks (Succession Wars and Clan Invasion).
Technical Readout: Clan Invasion and the new TechManual were at Origins as well.

Must be getting so close to dropping...surely close enough to give release dates? I'm after all of these...
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Post by: Fat Guy on 20 June 2019, 09:51:15
Let's see if the Alpha Strike cards get a general release. All the previous sets have been con exclusives.
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Post by: sadlerbw on 20 June 2019, 12:58:26
Let's see if the Alpha Strike cards get a general release. All the previous sets have been con exclusives.

I can at least confirm that this version is superior to this first version they sold. The front and back of each card is now the same mech! The first time they tried making a set of these, the print run got screwed up somehow and the fronts and backs didn't match up. So, you would end up with a Catapult on one side and a Javelin on the other, rather than having both variants of the Catapult on the same card.

I haven't tried using dry-erase markers on the new cards yet, but they feel like they have the plastic coating that lets you wipe off dry erase on them. Always nice when the cards are actually useful in a game and not just pretty!
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Post by: Pat Payne on 20 June 2019, 13:12:18
Let's see if the Alpha Strike cards get a general release. All the previous sets have been con exclusives.

While the AS cards would be nice to have and are cool-looking, they're way low on my personal "Battletech necesities to buy" list, since there's the MUL already.
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Post by: Sartris on 20 June 2019, 13:18:44
I have seen cards as PoD on drivethru but I have no idea what the quality is like
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Post by: Bedwyr on 20 June 2019, 13:25:06
I definitely want to see those. The prettiness is integral to the success of the AS line at this point (that is, need it to get new people in the door in the first place) and I'd like to get my hands on something of that production quality. I'm glad for both MUL and card tuck boxes, though. The two-pronged approach fits the very long production continuity of BT well.
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Post by: Weirdo on 20 June 2019, 13:27:47
There was/is a set of cards for Leviathans on drive-thru, I ordered them some time back. Very good quality. They weren't meant to be marked on, but I'd still feel comfortable using dry erase on them if I needed to.
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Post by: Xiwo Xerase on 20 June 2019, 13:33:50
Do the Alpha Strike cards (or the PoD Leviathan cards) fit in standard card sleeves?  If they do, you could sleeve the cards and then use dry erase markers on the sleeves.
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Post by: Sartris on 20 June 2019, 13:40:09
The as cards from the lance packs fit in regular sleeves
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Post by: Kitsune413 on 20 June 2019, 14:02:00
Any news about Ilclan?

Been busy. Nothing on the upcoming products page.

Excited about the Clan Box kickstarter.
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Post by: Scotty on 20 June 2019, 14:04:32
Do the Alpha Strike cards (or the PoD Leviathan cards) fit in standard card sleeves?  If they do, you could sleeve the cards and then use dry erase markers on the sleeves.

They are 2.5" x 3.5" and fit perfectly in sleeves.

I am under the impression that the card sets will be going to distribution.  Each one (which correspond to the omnibus TROs) will have 98 Mech cards (for 196 variants/configs/pilots) and 10 unit cards (i.e. 2nd Sword of Light, Wolf's Dragoons Gamma, etc.) that includes SCAs, skill, and unit info .  Succession Wars has one unit for each Great House, plus Wolf's Dragoons Gamma, Lindon's Company, one of the Big Mac regiments, Hansen' s Roughriders and one more I can't remember off-hand.  Clan Invasion included units from ComStar, St. Ives, Rasalhague, and Clusters from Jade Falcon, Ghost Bear, Wolf, Smoke Jaguar, Diamond Shark, Steel Viper, and one that I can't remember off-hand.

They're good sets.
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Post by: Colt Ward on 20 June 2019, 14:08:48
Huh, TRO Clan Invasion was at Origins . . . can we get a Table of Contents release?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 20 June 2019, 14:12:59
Any news about Ilclan?

Been busy. Nothing on the upcoming products page.

Excited about the Clan Box kickstarter.
no news. Was unlikely it would be at GC. Super unlikely now.
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Post by: nckestrel on 20 June 2019, 14:36:15
Succession Wars
1st Davion Guards
2nd Sword of Light
Red Lancers
1st Marik Militia
10th Lyran Guards
1st McCarron's Armored Cavalry
Wolf's Dragoons, Alpha Regiment
Eridani Light Horse, 71st Light Horse
Hansen's Roughriders
Lindon's Company

Clan Invasion
13th Wolf Guards Cluster
39th Strike Cluster (Clan Diamond Shark)
3rd Bear Guards
Jade Falcon Guards
1st Nova Cat Guards
3rd Jaguar Cavaliers
1st Viper Guards
1st St. Ives Lancers
1st Division (Comstar)
1st Drakons
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Post by: Weirdo on 20 June 2019, 14:48:34
I'm surprised you found the Falcon Guards card. It must have been buried at the bottom of the box.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 20 June 2019, 14:49:40
I'm surprised you found the Falcon Guards card. It must have been buried at the bottom of the box.

There was a headless Hatchetman mini next to it.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 20 June 2019, 14:52:01
Any news about Ilclan?

Been busy. Nothing on the upcoming products page.

Excited about the Clan Box kickstarter.
There been nothing about Ilclan.  I get the feeling it's not ready yet.  We'll find out in month or two.
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Post by: Kitsune413 on 20 June 2019, 15:09:50
There been nothing about Ilclan.  I get the feeling it's not ready yet.  We'll find out in month or two.

See Adrian's post above.

Unlikely for Gencon.

Seems they're busy.

I'm excited for the stuff they're working on though. Hopefully there will be some announcements soon.

I like the direction things are going. The new miniatures will sell the game I think. Especially since they look like the mechs people know from the BattleTech videogame and MWO.

Exciting stuff.
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Post by: Kitsune413 on 20 June 2019, 15:10:55
I got an applied science as a Physical Therapist Assistant by the way.

Magna ****** Laude and everything.

Now on to the board exam.

Hope everybody is doing well.
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 20 June 2019, 15:14:24
Congrats.
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Post by: Daryk on 20 June 2019, 15:15:26
Congrats, and good luck with the exam!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: rebs on 20 June 2019, 15:22:30
Congrats, Kitsune!  Now lets all pray for the IlClan.
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Post by: Cubby on 20 June 2019, 15:25:06
Huh, TRO Clan Invasion was at Origins . . . can we get a Table of Contents release?

I need to do a general catch-up post, similar to the omnibus one back in March. What's coming, where stuff is, spoilers, and so on. I've been getting behind, due to the SR6 weekly posts, the KS, and a small mountain of BT editing work.

(And a hectic day job and two small kids and yeah yeah yeah buddy, where's the ToC, whiner?)
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Post by: Daryk on 20 June 2019, 15:28:05
You don't have a Shadowrun counterpart running that end of the business??  :o
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Post by: NeonKnight on 20 June 2019, 15:31:35
I got an applied science as a Physical Therapist Assistant by the way.

Magna ****** Laude and everything.

Now on to the board exam.

Hope everybody is doing well.

Congrats - And I LOVE how the "graduation with Honors" is censored "P
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Post by: Cubby on 20 June 2019, 15:37:26
You don't have a Shadowrun counterpart running that end of the business??  :o

Nope, and worse than that. Until earlier this year, Shadowrun didn't have a me at all - Jason the line developer and SR-specific freelancers were getting out what they could. And my own efforts there are pretty limited even now, it's a lot to keep up with.
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Post by: Daryk on 20 June 2019, 15:40:00
No kidding... a whole new edition and everything!  Best of luck keeping up with both!
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 20 June 2019, 15:45:40
You don't have a Shadowrun counterpart running that end of the business??  :o

Oh, you mean Ybbuc? He's pretty busy, too.
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Post by: Daryk on 20 June 2019, 15:50:38
Not as busy as Cubby, it seems...
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Post by: Colt Ward on 20 June 2019, 15:54:41
I need to do a general catch-up post, similar to the omnibus one back in March. What's coming, where stuff is, spoilers, and so on. I've been getting behind, due to the SR6 weekly posts, the KS, and a small mountain of BT editing work.

(And a hectic day job and two small kids and yeah yeah yeah buddy, where's the ToC, whiner?)

No no . . . I was actually surprised, you like to tease stuff before it surprise drops like that . . .
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Post by: Scotty on 20 June 2019, 16:02:15
Not as busy as Cubby, it seems...

Read that name again, but slower.
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Post by: Daryk on 20 June 2019, 16:09:48
 ::)… lol... missed that completely!
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Post by: Scotty on 20 June 2019, 17:45:28
Huh, TRO Clan Invasion was at Origins . . . can we get a Table of Contents release?

This isn't a pretty version, obviously, but it should work until Cubby has less on his plate.
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Post by: dgorsman on 20 June 2019, 17:49:14
I'm liking the concept.  Even though it's not a reason to replace or supplement my own current stock, if I was just coming in its better than trying to work through previous editions.
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Post by: Two Guns Blazing on 20 June 2019, 17:51:00
This isn't a pretty version, obviously, but it should work until Cubby has less on his plate.

Thanks for the Kickstarter mini's list, I was starting to worry the Mad Dog and Hellbringer wouldn't appear :)

Seriously though, thanks for that quick sneak peak of the TRO :)
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Post by: Scotty on 20 June 2019, 17:52:07
I don't know if "Sneak Peak" is the right phrase for it, since I bought it already. :D
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Post by: Maingunnery on 20 June 2019, 18:08:20
This isn't a pretty version, obviously, but it should work until Cubby has less on his plate.
Should be a decent list for making new Clan Invasion RATs.
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Post by: Liam's Ghost on 20 June 2019, 18:17:26
I gotta ask, are the classics in the book using project Phoenix art?
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Post by: Cache on 20 June 2019, 18:19:45
This isn't a pretty version, obviously, but it should work until Cubby has less on his plate.
So... art for the Warhammer IIC, Marauder IIC, and Marauder II... new or repeat? If repeat, which versions?
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Post by: Scotty on 20 June 2019, 18:23:43
So... art for the Warhammer IIC, Marauder IIC, and Marauder II... new or repeat? If repeat, which versions?

All three use the '02/Reseen art (I can't read the signature to tell you who did it).
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Post by: Charlie Tango on 20 June 2019, 18:43:04


Hrm.  A little sad to see that it doesn't round out all of the missing designs from the Unseen-ness that weren't in TRO:Succession Wars.  I see several that are still missing of the IS designs at least.
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Post by: Maingunnery on 20 June 2019, 18:47:07

Hrm.  A little sad to see that it doesn't round out all of the missing designs from the Unseen-ness that weren't in TRO:Succession Wars.  I see several that are still missing of the IS designs at least.
Well maybe we get a revised or updated version in a couple of years. Lets hope for the best.  ;)
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Post by: Charlie Tango on 20 June 2019, 18:51:14
Well maybe we get a revised or updated version in a couple of years. Lets hope for the best.  ;)

I know.  I just want to be able to point players at books and say "these have what you need". 

With all the amazing work that CGL and their associated individuals have done now that they can finally bring some resolution to the issues that have dogged us all for so many years.  We're so close to that with these 2 TRO compilations that I can almost taste it, but we're not quite there.
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Post by: Colt Ward on 20 June 2019, 19:28:33
Lol, two comments that need to be repeated over in the '55/'58 topic.

Thanks for the ToC Scotty, I think that is a excellent selection and while mostly Omnis has a good selection of generic secondline though I would quibble over the Grizzly and Commando IIC the latter has a really easy proxy in the GoAC box.
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Post by: Sartris on 20 June 2019, 19:35:59
So if I’m seeing it right

Clan: 3050, 3058, some (?) of 3060. No 3055 omnis (pouncer, phantom, naga)
IS: other unseen (no osts or longbow), 3050, 3055, 3058 including the rest of the SL designs no in SW
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Post by: Colt Ward on 20 June 2019, 19:52:00
For 3055 inclusion Linebacker would have been more apt than Pouncer or Phantom which were later and less widespread . . . no Night Gyr but it had the other 3 from that set.
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Post by: Scotty on 20 June 2019, 19:59:35
For 3055 inclusion Linebacker would have been more apt than Pouncer or Phantom which were later and less widespread . . . no Night Gyr but it had the other 3 from that set.

Since I already have it in my hand, this feels like it's just a little bit late.  And honestly, the relative scarcity of some included 'Mechs doesn't really matter a whole lot, or the Grasshopper wouldn't have made Succession Wars.
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Post by: Azakael on 20 June 2019, 20:07:00
One quibble. For the Wolf Trap, I noticed that they had the alternate name as the (Torah) not the (Tora)... that doesn't seem right...
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Post by: Sartris on 20 June 2019, 20:14:26
Yeah I noticed that too. I choose to blame autocorrect  :))
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Post by: Colt Ward on 20 June 2019, 22:01:22
Since I already have it in my hand, this feels like it's just a little bit late.  And honestly, the relative scarcity of some included 'Mechs doesn't really matter a whole lot, or the Grasshopper wouldn't have made Succession Wars.

More that the Pouncer and Phantom did not really make it out of the Wolf Clan and I think Vlad killed them when he took over.  On the other hand, the 3 JFSB mechs that did get in had a wider spread.

The Guillotine IIC would have been better than the Grizzly, but they took the ICSB designs so I can understand source.

We knew when the cover was shown that things would get left out, and nothing can appeal to everyone- like I said its a solid foundation for Clan play.
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Post by: SCC on 20 June 2019, 22:05:49
Between TRO:SW and TRO:Clans how many 'Mechs are missing out of those that should probably be included?
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Post by: Scotty on 20 June 2019, 22:07:25
Wolves both Empire and Exile still use the Pouncer clear into the Dark Age, and the Phantom is available to the Wolves, Falcons, Horses, and Ravens at the same time.  The Linebacker is Wolves, Kell Hounds, and Ravens.  Seems like a wash to me.
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Post by: Colt Ward on 20 June 2019, 23:28:54
Pouncer was tested in a single cluster during Revival and IIRC the fluff was still getting mixed reviews.  Phantom was developed late Revival IIRC and I do not recall it being in the phone book.  The Linebacker came about before and was supposed to be spread through the touman which would explain how it might have appeared with others.  Like I said, the JFSB entries were more wide spread as part of the Falcon-Jag cooperation so their inclusion and the WCSB mechs exclusion makes sense- plus by the other standard I promote, the Turkina had screen time in a older video game.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 21 June 2019, 09:45:04
This isn't a pretty version, obviously, but it should work until Cubby has less on his plate.

Huh, I wonder what I wrote.
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Post by: Scotty on 21 June 2019, 10:07:38
Huh, I wonder what I wrote.

All of the credits from the previous TROs that had a unit that went into the boom are printed on the credits page.  Did you write anything for 3050 Upgrade?
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Post by: Cubby on 21 June 2019, 10:40:32
No no . . . I was actually surprised, you like to tease stuff before it surprise drops like that . . .

I do. Imagine my surprise/frustration when I started seeing customer pics of it at Origins.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 21 June 2019, 10:53:29
All of the credits from the previous TROs that had a unit that went into the boom are printed on the credits page.  Did you write anything for 3050 Upgrade?

Yeah, but it's been so long....
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Post by: Dak on 21 June 2019, 10:55:04
Yeah I noticed that too. I choose to blame autocorrect  :))

Nah, that would've been operator error on my part. Odd because I know the name is “Tora.” Sigh.

Dak
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Post by: Sartris on 21 June 2019, 11:04:34
Pouncer was tested in a single cluster during Revival and IIRC the fluff was still getting mixed reviews.  Phantom was developed late Revival IIRC and I do not recall it being in the phone book.  The Linebacker came about before and was supposed to be spread through the touman which would explain how it might have appeared with others.  Like I said, the JFSB entries were more wide spread as part of the Falcon-Jag cooperation so their inclusion and the WCSB mechs exclusion makes sense- plus by the other standard I promote, the Turkina had screen time in a older video game.

Iirc both had art in the phonebook

With the wider variety of choices there were a lot of omissions. A wide variety from the linebacker to the Apollo. Some 3067 snuck in with the hellion, Akuma, no-dachi and Argus as well... and the lone representative from IS 3060 the Enforcer iii
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Post by: Colt Ward on 21 June 2019, 11:46:21
Yeah, was mostly looking at the Clan stuff since its their introduction.  WCSB had 4 just like the JFSB, just by JFSB fluff which carried over their mechs had a earlier and wider distribution.  I think my comment is being mistaken- I was saying it makes sense the WCSB mechs are not included b/c they are not as main line as the others that were chosen.
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Post by: Joewrightgm on 21 June 2019, 19:38:49
Hey when are the neoprene mat will be back in stock?
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Post by: Daryk on 22 June 2019, 05:58:31
Now THAT is a good question!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: mbear on 24 June 2019, 08:17:38
I do. Imagine my surprise/frustration when I started seeing customer pics of it at Origins.

Those ****** customers. What were they thinking, sharing all their excitement about the product? ;)
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Post by: Cubby on 24 June 2019, 08:56:23
Those ****** customers. What were they thinking, sharing all their excitement about the product? ;)

Oh, my frustration is NOT at the customers for being excited, I assure you. During con season, you folks are sometimes my best source of information.
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Post by: Bosefius on 24 June 2019, 12:23:18
Hey when are the neoprene mat will be back in stock?

They've been re-ordered.
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Post by: kinwolf on 24 June 2019, 15:14:05
They've been re-ordered.

Enough to go through distribution or again only for CGL store?
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Post by: Cubby on 24 June 2019, 17:52:34
Enough to go through distribution or again only for CGL store?

Good question, and something I'm adding to my (not figurative) list of stuff to ask about for The Next Update. But let's assume for now that it's the latter.
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Post by: beachhead1985 on 24 June 2019, 22:56:59
They've been re-ordered.

Any traffic on when the new paper maps will hit FLGS?
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Post by: Weirdo on 24 June 2019, 23:15:41
They've been at mine for over a month now, I think.
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Post by: NeonKnight on 25 June 2019, 07:57:37
Got my Paper maps over 2 months ago now from my local Game Store.
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Post by: beachhead1985 on 25 June 2019, 08:06:36
Got my Paper maps over 2 months ago now from my local Game Store.

Crud. I ordered mine months back and never got them.
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Post by: abou on 28 June 2019, 08:58:00
Cubby, when you do a big update announcement, do you think there is a chance for info on ilClan?
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Post by: Cubby on 28 June 2019, 10:00:19
Possibly. I'm not trying to be cryptic, but I haven't gotten to that yet. Hoping to start herding the cats again this weekend.
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Post by: Colt Ward on 28 June 2019, 10:01:50
Possibly. I'm not trying to be cryptic, but I haven't gotten to that yet. Hoping to start herding the cats again this weekend.

I hear cattle prods work well . . .
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 28 June 2019, 10:02:26
Cubby, when you do a big update announcement, do you think there is a chance for info on ilClan?
There’s no new information at this time.
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Post by: Doom on 28 June 2019, 10:06:15
I hear cattle prods work well . . .

Cat-le prods, maybe.
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Post by: NeonKnight on 28 June 2019, 10:06:34
Hoping to start herding the cats again this weekend.

In case no-ones seen it before - here is a You Tube vid from years back of Cubby:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTwJzTsb2QQ
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Post by: Cubby on 28 June 2019, 10:23:37
I knew--not thought, KNEW--that's the phrase you all were going to key on.
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Post by: Bedwyr on 28 June 2019, 11:54:06
It's too perfect.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 28 June 2019, 12:14:36
Do we have no new information at this time on any other products?
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Post by: Wrangler on 28 June 2019, 12:16:42
It's properly be held up until Gencon I think.

I can see us being surprised with Battletech: Bubblegum  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Cubby on 28 June 2019, 12:17:51
Do we have no new information at this time on any other products?

We do, we will. I just haven't had time to pull it all together, with the KS coming up. My plan is to get something out in the early part of next week, before the holiday / holiday weekend, so that we've updated the status of everything we can and the decks are cleared for the KS messaging.

But there's just one of me, and I have to prioritize.
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Post by: YingJanshi on 28 June 2019, 15:23:12
But there's just one of me, and I have to prioritize.

Can someone go get some clone vats...
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 28 June 2019, 21:13:38
I'm sure we will know of the new product before Gencon a few days before. Like the last years.
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Post by: Fat Guy on 29 June 2019, 14:18:01
House Arano pdf is now at the CGL Store.   :clap:
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Post by: Daryk on 30 June 2019, 10:21:03
Finally found a Beginner Box in a store!  Well worth the $20, even to a grognard.  Two (very nice) minis plus a double-sided map, along with 4 cardboard stand-ups that are light-years beyond what we had back in the day, and a few hex-pack like terrain bits to boot.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: truetanker on 02 July 2019, 07:44:02
Still waiting for a dry bone to chew about Homeworlds. Is any info somewhat planned? Even if it's a one liner paragraph.

TT
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 02 July 2019, 09:21:46
Still waiting for a dry bone to chew about Homeworlds. Is any info somewhat planned? Even if it's a one liner paragraph.
No, I’m sorry.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 02 July 2019, 09:28:42
Still waiting for a dry bone to chew about Homeworlds. Is any info somewhat planned? Even if it's a one liner paragraph.

TT

The announcement was it would very very probably not be GenCon, that they were focusing on rolling out Clan Invasion kickstarter . . . but Cubby mentioned he will be doing a upcoming release notice before the 4th five posts before yours, so . . . ?
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 02 July 2019, 09:29:25
The Game of Armoured Combat Box is on Asmodee's list this week as a restock
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bosefius on 02 July 2019, 15:43:31
The announcement was it would very very probably not be GenCon, that they were focusing on rolling out Clan Invasion kickstarter . . . but Cubby mentioned he will be doing a upcoming release notice before the 4th five posts before yours, so . . . ?

He's talking Home Clans, what's left after Reaving. Unless something very weird happens ilClan would have nothing to do with them. The last we have from them is the Wars of Reaving Supplemental.
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Post by: Sartris on 02 July 2019, 17:51:34
The scroggins patreon released the elemental redesign sketch yesterday. Would be a cool late campaign stretch goal if they could squeeze it in
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 03 July 2019, 11:48:27
We're straying.

Mods, please split this into (yet another) thread about the Homeworld Clans if desired.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 03 July 2019, 13:14:56
So . . . tomorrow is that holiday you were talking about having a update out . . . Should I check in after the fireworks or wait for Friday which most folks have off?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bedwyr on 03 July 2019, 14:16:26
We're straying.

Mods, please split this into (yet another) thread about the Homeworld Clans if desired.

Ok, roger that. I'm a bit busy right now, but one of the other mods should be along soon. For everyone else, Homeworld Clans is off topic for now; we'll split off the thread soon(tm). To make it official y'all:

**MODNOTICE**
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 03 July 2019, 15:45:32
TechManual Reprint Now Available in Print, PDF, and Combo Formats!

Quote
The Gearhead's Handbook

How does a MechWarrior interface with a BattleMech? How does a ProtoMech really work? When was the Gauss rifle or the Particle Projector Cannon developed? Or how can I just make my own, cool and unique BattleMech design? If you've ever been plagued by these questions, then get on your coveralls and make sure you've got your astech certification, because you're about to dive into BattleTech construction!

A companion volume to Total Warfare, BattleTech: TechManual combines all the construction rules for the various units presented in that core rules set. Streamlined and updated, it contains all the core weaponry and equipment from previous rules set, as well as the newest, bleeding edge technologies. More than just a rulebook, however, the TechManual presents numerous sourcebook-style treatises, providing the in-universe context for these units and the technologies of their development. A must have resource for any BattleTech afficionado!

Vintage Cover: This reprint now displays a vintage cover celebrating 35 years of Heavy Metal Mayhem.

https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-techmanual-book-pdf (https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-techmanual-book-pdf)

(https://i.ibb.co/nzQwZ7F/CAT35002-V-Tech-Manual-Vintage-Cover-Reprint.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jg38ByS)
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Post by: Daryk on 03 July 2019, 16:08:37
Woo!  Congrats on getting Tech Manual back in print!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Euphonium on 03 July 2019, 16:41:44
TechManual Reprint Now Available in Print, PDF, and Combo Formats!


Do those of us who already bought the PDF from BattleCorps get and updated version automatically or do we have to re-buy it?
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Post by: Sartris on 03 July 2019, 16:49:34
Update has actually been available for a while now
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bosefius on 03 July 2019, 16:49:39
Do those of us who already bought the PDF from BattleCorps get and updated version automatically or do we have to re-buy it?

To be honest, we don't know how it's being handled. If you created an account on the new store using the same email you used on Battlecorps you should see your previous purchase. You can log in, download it, see if it's the updated version.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Euphonium on 03 July 2019, 17:06:08
To be honest, we don't know how it's being handled. If you created an account on the new store using the same email you used on Battlecorps you should see your previous purchase. You can log in, download it, see if it's the updated version.

I created an account on the new store with the same e-mail and none of my previous purchases showed.
I e-mailed customer support and they found and restored my last order only.
I've had too much stuff happening IRL to chase it further. Sounds like it's time for me to try & clear an afternoon and dredge through my old e-mails for all my old receipts.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: kinwolf on 04 July 2019, 11:21:16
Can I start bugging my FLGS about Techmanual or is it still some weeks away from general distribution?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Phobos101 on 04 July 2019, 19:11:10
Has there been anything regarding a street date for alpha strike commanders edition? My group has started transitioning bigger games to AS, so it’s suddenly very relevant to me...
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 04 July 2019, 19:43:25
Has there been anything regarding a street date for alpha strike commanders edition? My group has started transitioning bigger games to AS, so it’s suddenly very relevant to me...
What about Interstellar Operations? It has the rule larger AS games while your waiting for the Commander Edition to be released.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 04 July 2019, 20:08:26
The Scroggins Patreon now has concept sketches of the C R U S A D E R. It’s so beautiful  :'(
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Daryk on 04 July 2019, 20:25:08
No link??  I can't imagine TPTB would ban a link to his stuff...
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 04 July 2019, 20:30:41
it's his patreon. you have to subscribe to see the goods. unless he posts it to facebook or something
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 05 July 2019, 03:03:49
No link??  I can't imagine TPTB would ban a link to his stuff...

As Sartris said, this is from his Patreon, where he's allowing people a glimpse at upcoming BT art as part of the thanks for supporting him financially.  As a result, any BattleTech art shared there and not also available publicly is a violation of Rule 10.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Daryk on 05 July 2019, 05:08:15
I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 05 July 2019, 07:07:44
If he working on crusader, i wonder where it will end up going into.
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Post by: RoundTop on 05 July 2019, 10:07:31
If he working on crusader, i wonder where it will end up going into.

Jerusalem.  (Too soon?)
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Post by: Luciora on 05 July 2019, 10:51:51
I like the fact that the 8L looks beefy, with a barrel chest that is mentioned in the TRO.  He did leave a comment on my take of the 4BR that the arm launchers would be adjusted on a FB post.

If he working on crusader, i wonder where it will end up going into.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 05 July 2019, 11:01:24
If he working on crusader, i wonder where it will end up going into.

another lance pack stretch for the kickstarter?

addendum: the patreon post mentions that he was working on the crud and was set to do the mad II next when the lawsuit hit. maybe both?  O:-)

classics not in plastic:

(Mockup Command Lance)
Marauder
Archer
Valkyrie
Stinger

(Proposed Battle Lance)
Warhammer
PHawk
?
?

(others)
Wasp
OstScout (released in metal but not plastic)
Ostroc
Ostsol
Rifleman
Longbow
Mad II

a third lance of uniques would require either dipping into the osts OR reruns from the boxes OR bringing back quads - though quads' total absence from TROs: SW and CI makes me think there won't be a goliath or scorpion any time soon. obvioiusly everything is subject to change and nothing is guaranteed before the 17th, but here's hoping we'll have a shot at helping make it happen

addendum 2: Crackerb0x helpfully points out below that the lance packs don't necessarily have to be an all-classics affair. the orion and atlas have received at least new sketches so they could be included as well.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Scotty on 05 July 2019, 11:35:44
The Wasp is also in metal but not plastic.  There are some floating around but I'm not sure how to get them.
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Post by: Sartris on 05 July 2019, 11:39:13
yeah i exclude the wasp and valk since you can't readily get them
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cache on 05 July 2019, 11:58:19
The Wasp is also in metal but not plastic.  There are some floating around but I'm not sure how to get them.
Visit the CGL booth at a con, or hit up someone who can.  Seems to be the only way. xp
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 05 July 2019, 12:10:11
if it's encouraging, being slow as i am, i noticed the Record Sheets found in Turning Points: Tokasha have under "era" TRO: Golden Century listed as when they existed.  It could be easter egg or a typo.  Gives me high hopes.
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Post by: Doom on 05 July 2019, 12:15:31
Did you miss the footnote on page 7?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Crackerb0x on 05 July 2019, 12:37:33
a third lance of uniques would require either dipping into the osts OR reruns from the boxes OR bringing back quads - though quads' total absence from TROs: SW and CI makes me think there won't be a goliath or scorpion any time soon. obvioiusly everything is subject to change and nothing is guaranteed before the 17th, but here's hoping we'll have a shot at helping make it happen

In responses on his Patreon, Scroggins has mentioned that the Osts are not on his short list handed down from CGI, but the Goliath is.

EDIT: There's also new art for thr Atlas and the Orion has been teased so.... maybe we will be seeing more than nuseens in those boxes? Who onows.
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Post by: Sartris on 05 July 2019, 12:44:13
both relevant and good additions
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Post by: Empyrus on 05 July 2019, 12:46:26
ARGH that footnote annoys me so much!
I really, really, really want Golden Century now! And i mean now-now!

Honestly, ilClan aside, Golden Century is my most-expected product. (Gave up on Milestones.)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 05 July 2019, 13:08:13
it seems milestones has gone to the same development purgatory as opfor and gladiator gazette. hopefully TRO: Golden Century will resurface at some point.

As to the listed items on the coming soon obviously a lot of this is not a priority during con season but here they are.

TtS: Rigil Kentares, Gulf Breeze: no word on ETA

AS Commander's edition: was at the printer, also at cons? so... Soon™?

Core Reprints:
TW - Last Summer
TM - nowish (cgl store right now)
TO - hopefully not another ten month wait?
SO - PDF hasn't even been updated yet like the other three as it had a much larger cleanup

TRO: Clan Invasion - also at cons so also soon?

Legends novel reprints: been quiet since Thunder Rift dropped

Capital Punishment: Jihad Turning Points PoD compilation. iirc cubby said it was also in dev purgatory but added for completeness since it's still on the page.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 05 July 2019, 16:50:26
We still don't have anything on the Goliath and Scorpion Classics
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: SCC on 05 July 2019, 17:19:52
Given that I'm pretty sure the Scorpion tank is used more then the 'Mech, that might not be surprising in that case.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 05 July 2019, 20:25:47
Plenty of Scorpions in later TROs, bizarrely enough.  I mean, if the thing was supposed to be such a failure, but then maybe the changes "under the hood" were even more extensive than what was done to the shape.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: beachhead1985 on 05 July 2019, 22:00:43
Plenty of Scorpions in later TROs, bizarrely enough.  I mean, if the thing was supposed to be such a failure, but then maybe the changes "under the hood" were even more extensive than what was done to the shape.

From what I got from the Scorpion's fluff, across all versions; the issue *was* the shape. Something to do with how the legs were actually *built* in conjunction with the hull/torso. Doing more work on the legs would probably be more than half the job; once you got that...more advanced gyro?

But the PP and ReSeens have both noticably lowered the silhouette from the original; that alone might help a lot.

It's funny; we have a few other early quads and none of them have quite the issues with the ride that the Scorpion does. But nor do any of the others quite *look* like the scorpion either.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Two Guns Blazing on 06 July 2019, 01:13:33
I did read on one of the Facebook groups that the Alpha Strike Commander's Edition book has a tentative street date of 10th July...and when I bugged Miniature Market over the phone for an estimate of when my pre-ordered copy would likely be shipped, they said "possibly next week"...these two sources seem to concur...
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Scotty on 06 July 2019, 01:41:52
I did read on one of the Facebook groups that the Alpha Strike Commander's Edition book has a tentative street date of 10th July...and when I bugged Miniature Market over the phone for an estimate of when my pre-ordered copy would likely be shipped, they said "possibly next week"...these two sources seem to concur...

Protip: never believe pre-order dates for any reason, ever.  You'll know the street date shortly after Catalyst does.  Trying to ferret it out from other sources is at best going to give you no answer, and at worst get your hopes up (which is then, to some [enough], Catalyst's fault if the date doesn't happen).
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: kinwolf on 06 July 2019, 06:43:40
I did read on one of the Facebook groups that the Alpha Strike Commander's Edition book has a tentative street date of 10th July...and when I bugged Miniature Market over the phone for an estimate of when my pre-ordered copy would likely be shipped, they said "possibly next week"...these two sources seem to concur...

amazon list it as in stock july 11 too.  As Scotty mentionned above, it's not a guarantee, but amazon has always been a good source for release date in the past
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 06 July 2019, 06:48:56
It said July on Miniature market. So we will see for the Alpha Strike Commander's Edition.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 06 July 2019, 07:57:58
it's not a guarantee, but amazon has always been a good source for release date in the past

Narrator: it has not
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Weirdo on 06 July 2019, 10:29:04
Amazon is NEVER a good source for Battletech release dates.

There are two kinds of release dates: Ones that chime directly from CGL, and bald-faced lies.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Greatclub on 06 July 2019, 14:11:17
The local distributor lists it as "In stock (new)"

OTOH, they also think combat manual Davion is coming out soon, and that product is currently dead. 
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Post by: SteelRaven on 06 July 2019, 15:11:49
Keep in mind that my local distributor had me down for the Clan Box vs AGoAC a few months back.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: SteveRestless on 06 July 2019, 15:21:11
Amazon is NEVER a good source for Battletech release dates.

There are two kinds of release dates: Ones that chime directly from CGL, and bald-faced lies.

IOW "There are no release dates"
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 06 July 2019, 20:03:50
Amazon is NEVER a good source for Battletech release dates.

There are two kinds of release dates: Ones that chime directly from CGL, and bald-faced lies.
So, Comstar?
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Post by: Cubby on 07 July 2019, 20:49:34
Update on Alpha Strike Commander's Edition, TechManual Reprint, Box Set and BattleMats

With the BattleTech: Clan Invasion Kickstarter less than two weeks away,, we wanted to clear the decks and provide updates on a few recently-released and upcoming products.

Here’s what’s new for BattleTech:


(https://i.ibb.co/LY354VP/CAT35002-V-Tech-Manual-Vintage-Cover-Reprint.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S5zrqFx)

--The reprint of TechManual boasting the 35th anniversary vintage cover is now available in print, PDF, and combo formats on the Catalyst Game Labs store (https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-techmanual-book-pdf).

(https://i.ibb.co/bgNtBdz/ASCE.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

--Alpha Strike: Commander’s Edition has a street date of Wednesday, July 10, 2019 and will be available from the Catalyst Game Labs store and through traditional distribution at that time.

(https://i.ibb.co/hxNWQJ9/BT-AGoAC.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tw6sjTK)

--The BattleTech: A Game of Armored Combat boxed set is back in stock in the Catalyst Game Labs store, and will be making its way back into distribution to retailers as before.

(https://i.ibb.co/SKJVLVf/BT-Beginner.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RC7Q5Qj)

--Another reprint of the BattleTech Beginner Box is making its way to our U.S. fulfillment center. A full restock is expected by mid- to late-August.

(https://i.ibb.co/tBRDjC6/Battle-Mat-Topdown-Photo.jpg) (https://ibb.co/v19kyzW)

--Thanks to the brisk sales and enthusiasm for the recent series of BattleMats, we’re pleased to announce that a full re-order of all four previously-released mats has been placed. They will be available in the Catalyst Game Labs store and in retail stores by October.

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Post by: Two Guns Blazing on 07 July 2019, 20:54:56
Fantastic news Cubby, thanks for the heads-up. I've got my ASCE on pre-order and am very excited to get my hands on it.

In regards to the TechManual (or anything really), that is purchased from the CGL webstore with an international destination, is there a possibility that you guys might be able to investigate cheaper postage options. The cheapest postage option to purchase the TechManual is considerably more than the book itself.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Scotty on 07 July 2019, 21:06:52
(https://i.ibb.co/tBRDjC6/Battle-Mat-Topdown-Photo.jpg) (https://ibb.co/v19kyzW)

--Thanks to the brisk sales and enthusiasm for the recent series of BattleMats, we’re pleased to announce that a full re-order of all four previously-released mats has been placed. They will be available in the Catalyst Game Labs store and in retail stores by October.

This is fantastic news.
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Post by: Hayden. on 07 July 2019, 22:21:27
Sooooooo excited to get my hands on ASCE!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: SCC on 07 July 2019, 22:37:32
(https://i.ibb.co/LY354VP/CAT35002-V-Tech-Manual-Vintage-Cover-Reprint.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S5zrqFx)

--The reprint of TechManual boasting the 35th anniversary vintage cover is now available in print, PDF, and combo formats on the Catalyst Game Labs store (https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-techmanual-book-pdf).
Can someone clue me in on the reason for the 'new' cover art?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sharpnel on 07 July 2019, 22:41:23
It's the 35th Anniversary of BT plus that was the cover, IIRC, for the Tactical Handbook, the predecessor for the Tech Manual
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 07 July 2019, 22:47:40
They all have retro art

TW - BattleTech Manual
TM - Tactical Handbook
TO - CityTech, 2nd Ed
SO - BattleForce, 1st Ed
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 08 July 2019, 03:53:41
Such great news. Just waiting for the go order.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Charlie Tango on 08 July 2019, 08:09:33

In regards to the TechManual (or anything really), that is purchased from the CGL webstore with an international destination, is there a possibility that you guys might be able to investigate cheaper postage options. The cheapest postage option to purchase the TechManual is considerably more than the book itself.

Having had to recently mail a few things internationally, the shipping rates they are charging are not by any stretch out of line with what it actually costs these days.  This is from the USPS International Mail Rate chart:

(https://images2.imgbox.com/15/68/IqwlMqLg_o.jpg)

Australia is Group 3.  Plus you ahve to factor in the filling out of the customs form and costs of packaging, etc.  Those things ain't free.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Two Guns Blazing on 08 July 2019, 08:40:49
Having had to recently mail a few things internationally, the shipping rates they are charging are not by any stretch out of line with what it actually costs these days.

I'm sorry mate, but you're dead wrong...

On the Miniature Market shopping cart I just ordered the ASCE book to do a test run through their cart to see what postage options I have. I was given four postage options, the cheapest of which was almost 1/3rd the cost of CGL's cheapest option and the most expensive option was FedEx and that was $31.50 USD...FedEx with CGL is $284.95 USD...

Also, the dude in the link below is getting charged $50 USD to have a T-Shirt posted to him. I've bought multiple items of clothing from the US on ebay and it is less than $20 USD to have it shipped to me.

I believe you when you relate your postage experiences to me, however my experiences are very different to yours.

https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=65889.msg1518738#new

Below are two screen captures. The first is from CGL online store for the Techmanual. The second is the Miniature Market online store for the ASCE. I can only imagine that the CGL store would charge me the same postage for the ASCE as it would for the Techmanual.

Check out the price differences in postage, and the amount of options available...1st world problems I know, but I think it would benefit CGL to investigate their postage costs, as they might sell more stuff from their store to international buyers if they could organise better postage costs.

(https://i.imgur.com/1C7wPaIh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/PG8c028h.jpg)
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Post by: nckestrel on 08 July 2019, 09:05:09
NM. already covered.
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Post by: Charlie Tango on 08 July 2019, 09:23:27


I would bet that with Miniature Market they are eating some of the International Shipping cost.

They may be able to negotiate with someone like FedEx to get a reduced rate due to volume(?), but I'm still willing to bet dollars to donuts that Miniature Market is eating some of that cost (like places that give you "free shipping on purchases over $XX amount" do).

In the immortal words of Robert Heinlein, "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch."
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: wantec on 08 July 2019, 09:41:43

I would bet that with Miniature Market they are eating some of the International Shipping cost.

They may be able to negotiate with someone like FedEx to get a reduced rate due to volume(?), but I'm still willing to bet dollars to donuts that Miniature Market is eating some of that cost (like places that give you "free shipping on purchases over $XX amount" do).

In the immortal words of Robert Heinlein, "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch."
One more anecdotal example, Costco (a US warehouse store) offers free shipping on most of the large items on its website. A mattress I was looking to buy was $200 online. In my local store it was $150. I've seen similar pricing on other large items, they basically build the shipping in to the base price.

This is just to say some places build in the shipping costs to offer "free" shipping, others eat shipping costs to get business.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 08 July 2019, 11:35:28
I just pre-ordered mine. I never pre-ordered a Battletech book before so hopefully all is well at least better than before.
I did do the pdf-book combo before where the PDF was no problem...but the actual book took much much longer..than even after the street date.
I will not be going to Gencon this year for the running of the nerds and pick my book live, so had to try the.

On a separate note...I have seen the free shipping option before on stores before...that usually only works with domestic orders. Dont get that bonus for International orders.
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Post by: SteelRaven on 08 July 2019, 12:29:42
Mini. Market do allot more shipping so they have negotiated business discounts with shippers to get their exclusive business.

Also considering the discounts they always seem to have, I wouldn't be surprised if they are taking a hit to gain more customers. It's what made Walmart a household name back in the day.

That said, I owe my FLGS a call. Support your local business 😀
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 08 July 2019, 12:33:59
Yeah, time to mention the return of GoAC box and put in a request for one finally . . .
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Post by: beachhead1985 on 08 July 2019, 18:08:21

--Thanks to the brisk sales and enthusiasm for the recent series of BattleMats, we’re pleased to announce that a full re-order of all four previously-released mats has been placed. They will be available in the Catalyst Game Labs store and in retail stores by October.

No word on the paper map set, eh? My FLGS wiffed on that pre-order for me.
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Post by: kinwolf on 08 July 2019, 18:15:45

I would bet that with Miniature Market they are eating some of the International Shipping cost.

They may be able to negotiate with someone like FedEx to get a reduced rate due to volume(?), but I'm still willing to bet dollars to donuts that Miniature Market is eating some of that cost (like places that give you "free shipping on purchases over $XX amount" do).

In the immortal words of Robert Heinlein, "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch."

One of the main reason why Catalyst Store price are so high is that they do not offer the cheapest choice.  For some unknown reason, the option to choose USPS First-Class Package International Service is not there.  That option is a good 10$ less on most packages.  Example:  a 2.2 pound(1Kg) 13*13*10 inches box would cost 26$ to ship to my place(Canada). but it's a whooping 40$ with Priority Mail International.  And from experience, the latter is not faster than the former.  And I'm pretty sure the warehouse they are using are getting volume discount, so it's even cheaper for them.

I've ordered ALOT of stuff from the US since forever, and the recent shipping price for 2Kg and less boardgame is always 30$ and under.  For something that fit in an envelope, it's around 15$.

As for Fedex, same, FedEx International Economy  is NOT the only option Fedex offers, there are alot more that are waaaay cheaper, yet it is the only one the website offers.

I wrote catalyst about that months ago about that and they replied, weeks later, they would look into it.  Again, that was months ago.  I gave up trying to order anything physical from there.

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Post by: Charlie Tango on 08 July 2019, 19:37:02
Never mind.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: PyreLight on 09 July 2019, 00:17:20
CGL's rates for international shipping are absolutely outrageous and tells me that they haven't bothered to offer the cheaper options that USPS has.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 09 July 2019, 00:35:58
CGL's shipping is not the 5 full timers pulling stock from the warehouse behind their office and taking it to FedEx or USPS.  In the modern world, its funny to see that sort of assumption when we are repeatedly told they are a small business.  Those shipping rates and options are what CGL has worked out in their contract with the warehouse that gets the orders from China and ships to the distributor- they are not gouging you on shipping, just passing the cost their 3rd Party contracted warehouse charges on to the final consumer.  They just are being more honest than most.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Phobos101 on 09 July 2019, 02:56:14
The costs are wildly out of step with other US sellers, large or small. Living on an island, I have a pretty good idea what shipping costs should look like, and CGL is expensive. It's frustrating when people bring up a legitimate problem that gets in the way of them spending money buying supporting the brand, and the response from those who don't have the problem is to dismiss it. I think if there are better options, they should be explored.

Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: kinwolf on 09 July 2019, 05:14:00
I order from companies smaller than CGL(read 2-5 employees max, like Revolution Games) and shipping is always cheaper.  Again, a simple use of usps shipping tool will show there is cheaper options avail.

I see no reason why their online store do not offer all the shipping options of usps at checkout.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: mbear on 09 July 2019, 07:59:16
There are two kinds of release dates: Ones that chime directly from CGL, and bald-faced lies.

To quote my old boss from my retail days "It's here when it's here and it's not here before then."
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 09 July 2019, 09:30:49
The costs are wildly out of step with other US sellers, large or small. Living on an island, I have a pretty good idea what shipping costs should look like, and CGL is expensive. It's frustrating when people bring up a legitimate problem that gets in the way of them spending money buying supporting the brand, and the response from those who don't have the problem is to dismiss it. I think if there are better options, they should be explored.

No, that is not what I am saying . . . what I am saying is that you are complaining about something that is a legitimate concern but you do not have all the details.  CGL shipping problems have existed for a while, its been known for years with the PDF/hard copy problems- I seem to remember cost discussions at that point as well.  The 3rd party warehouse they use may not offer them that many options- like I said, CGL employees are not going and pulling product, putting it in a box and slapping a label on it.  The warehouse may not even be in the same city let alone state!

Odds are, its the company that gave them the best deal to house the incoming product, break it down into smaller bundles that distributors then receive, and also offered some direct shipping options.  But based on what folks say, I expect that 3rd Party warehouse does not do much direct shipping or offer CGL that many direct shipping options for product based on the contract.  I deal with shipping companies making deliveries, and some of the suppliers that ship will show up with a forklift & liftgate to speed up their delivery while other companies do not which means their drivers spend more time unloading (and hoping you have a forklift) and some shippers (cheapest option) will just open the back of the truck to move your delivery to the edge with the receiver being obligated to move the product into their storage space.

CGL tries to keep the cost down, which means where they receive their deliveries is going to be the cheapest they can find . . . and b/c the business model does not include much direct shipping, they are not looking for the best/cheapest options for direct to consumer shipping.  If they could offer cheaper shipping options, don't you think they would?  Its not like they get to pocket the money for shipping costs, its what another company charges them.

Its already been suggested the work around for international customers is to use one of the businesses that re-ship from a US address.  I know nothing about them, but it sounds like a sensible market solution since they can likely generate the volume to drive costs down.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Doom on 09 July 2019, 09:39:10
What does any of this shipping rates discussion have to do with upcoming products? That seems like something for a different thread.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bedwyr on 09 July 2019, 10:17:13
Agreed. I'll see about possibly splitting the thread when I'm at a proper computer. Till then:

**MOD NOTICE**

The shipping discussion has merit, but is now off topic. Conversation may resume once the thread is split out.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 10 July 2019, 12:50:55
(https://i.ibb.co/PGTvc7W/E-CAT35680-Battle-Tech-Alpha-Strike-Commanders-Edition-1024x1024.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jkVPycw)

COMMAND YOUR DESTINY

In the BattleTech universe there remains one constant: the drums of war. And where there is war, valiant military commanders from the Great Houses, the Clans, and other interstellar nations lead the charge of hulking BattleMechs, brave infantry, and daring aerofighters to certain victory or crushing defeat on the sprawling battlefields of distant worlds. Rally your troops onward into the fray, and surge forth to triumph over the enemy.

Alpha Strike: Commander’s Edition collects into one handy volume the revised fast-play rules from the original Alpha Strike and the expanded rules from Alpha Strike Companion. Take command of large-scale engagements with tabletop-miniatures gameplay designed for the modern wargamer. Use the force-creation rules to marshal your armies, charge them into battle, and either reap the rewards of conquest or taste the bitter pill of defeat. The future of the Inner Sphere is in your hands!

Now available on the Catalyst Game Labs store! (https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-alpha-strike-commanders-edition)

Learn more about Alpha Strike Commander's Edition with an inside look from product developer Joshua Franklin. (https://bg.battletech.com/news/exploring-alpha-strike-commanders-edition/)

Discuss this new release here! (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=65957.msg1519391#new)
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Post by: I am Belch II on 10 July 2019, 13:28:28
So much good news.
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Post by: ActionButler on 10 July 2019, 19:48:54
More Alpha Strike is ALWAYS welcome news.
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Post by: Cubby on 10 July 2019, 20:36:32
New update on the BattleTech: Clan Invasion Kickstarter - take a look inside the Clan Invasion boxed set (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=65650.msg1519541#msg1519541)!
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Post by: Sapphirus on 10 July 2019, 22:06:41
Oh my!  Those look awesome!
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Post by: Valkerie on 10 July 2019, 22:16:50
(https://i.ibb.co/PGTvc7W/E-CAT35680-Battle-Tech-Alpha-Strike-Commanders-Edition-1024x1024.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jkVPycw)
Ordered.  Quick glance through the PDF brings smiles. :)
Oh my!  Those look awesome!
Ditto. :drool:
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Post by: rebs on 10 July 2019, 22:55:52
Clan Invasion box set looks awesome!
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Post by: Two Guns Blazing on 11 July 2019, 04:02:21
I've purchased the hard copy and it should be here on Monday, at least that's what the tracking info says, very much looking forward to getting my hands on it!!!

(https://i.ibb.co/PGTvc7W/E-CAT35680-Battle-Tech-Alpha-Strike-Commanders-Edition-1024x1024.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jkVPycw)
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Post by: I am Belch II on 11 July 2019, 07:26:20
I'm getting mine Friday. Can't wait for my Commanders Edition .
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Post by: ArchonDan on 11 July 2019, 08:00:31
I ordered the new Alpha Strike book. I’m more of a classic BT player but my friends  enjoy larger style games like GW Apoc, not that AS is that size of a game but will still be cool to try out bigger games and see if it helps draw them in
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Post by: NeonKnight on 11 July 2019, 08:22:38
Its a very nice book! I just wish they had dealt with infantry in base-to-base contact being allowed to shoot each other, instead of being hamstrung by needing the AM ability :(

And this is really my only...complaint, critique...i don;t know. I'll just house rule it.
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Post by: Weirdo on 11 July 2019, 09:27:13
That is a problem easily solved by tactics. :thumbsup:
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Post by: Sartris on 11 July 2019, 09:34:43
tack ticks? are those monsters in Munchkin?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 11 July 2019, 11:05:21
That is a problem easily solved by tactics. :thumbsup:

True...it's just the visual I keep getting in my head of the infantry being incapable of enganging in 'Fixed Bayonets' or Hand-to-Hand cmbat as soon as they are based by another unit of infantry. so they sit there and stare menacingly at each other ;)
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Post by: Weirdo on 11 July 2019, 11:19:04
No they don't. They either shoot at other units, or scream and duck because the other infantry player was smart enough to support them, which means someone else is currently shooting at them.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 11 July 2019, 11:28:36
No they don't. They either shoot at other units, or scream and duck because the other infantry player was smart enough to support them, which means someone else is currently shooting at them.

Well, most infantry are short range only, so, they may have been acting as spotters, etc, and I see you point, but at the same time, I would assume most opponents would only be shooting at 'locked-down' infantry if no other viable target ;)
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Post by: Scotty on 11 July 2019, 11:38:06
You assume incorrectly.  Initiative is powerful; the more units I have and the less you have, the more likely I can keep my important units for the last move.
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Post by: Sartris on 11 July 2019, 11:39:17
As a chronic loser of initiative I only can agree.

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Post by: NeonKnight on 11 July 2019, 11:40:00
You assume incorrectly.  Initiative is powerful; the more units I have and the less you have, the more likely I can keep my important units for the last move.

Assuming we are not doing Lance movement ;)

But really, how hard is it to simply caveat Infantry can shoot infantry in Base-to-Base? It doesn;t break the game. And I am not being argumentative here, just curious.
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Post by: Scotty on 11 July 2019, 11:43:34
Even if we are doing lance movement, unless for some reason your infantry are outside of the turn order.

Probably not hard at all.  Weirdo and I are mostly suggesting that it's an irrelevant change at best.  If you're in a position where your infantry can (and want to) be base contracted by other infantry, the rules haven't failed you.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Weirdo on 11 July 2019, 12:42:03
opponents would only be shooting at 'locked-down' infantry if no other viable target ;)

I love facing opponents like this. They're not much of a challenge to beat, but the look of shock on their faces is delicious. :drool:
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Post by: NeonKnight on 11 July 2019, 13:00:51
Well....I know I brought up the infantry and the Base-to-Base combat oddity back in 2014, and at the time, nckestrel was in agreement that it did seem odd, and appeared to be in favour of allowing infantry to side-step this issue:

https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=41810.msg964001#msg964001

Again, I'm only debating infantry (convential and BA here) and nothing else.

And MODS, feel free to split off the infantry discussion.
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Post by: nckestrel on 11 July 2019, 13:02:49
Just after that I said in that thread there had been no errata.  My personal opinion is not official rules changes. 
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Post by: NeonKnight on 11 July 2019, 13:05:30
Just after that I said in that thread there had been no errata.  My personal opinion is not official rules changes.

Never said it was...just said you were in agreement. One can agree with a concept but not be in a position to change the rules ;)

No different than Xotl disliking the HIP critical effects but unable to change the rules, even though he wrote the BATTLEMECH manual.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: kinwolf on 15 July 2019, 14:06:05
This isn't a pretty version, obviously, but it should work until Cubby has less on his plate.

Pet peeve of mine:  After using TRO:SW alot in the last few months, I came to HATE it's TOC/index with a passion.  I think it's fine that the mechs are listed by era appearance inside the book(even though it adds nothing in itself I think), but the index should at least list them alphabetically.  It's infuriating to lose 5 minutes looking for a mech trying to find it's name across a page that contains almost 100 names. 

And it looks like TRO: Clan Invasion will reproduce the same mistake, ARGH  :-\ 

Edit:  The quote doesn'T show it, but it's the post with the photo of TRO Clan Invasion in it.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Scotty on 15 July 2019, 14:11:59
That's not an index, it's the table of contents (in the picture, assuming you mean the same thing).  It's organized in the same order that the units appear in the book, which is by tonnage then alphabetically.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 15 July 2019, 14:34:20
Generally most TROS are organized by Weight Class/Tonnage/Maybe Era like TRO3075.
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Post by: Sartris on 15 July 2019, 14:40:33
regardless of how the units are separated (faction / clan vs IS / project Phoenix, etc), the units within those categories are always sorted by tonnage.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: kinwolf on 15 July 2019, 15:07:33
That's not an index, it's the table of contents (in the picture, assuming you mean the same thing).  It's organized in the same order that the units appear in the book, which is by tonnage then alphabetically.

I know, but since there isn't an index, the TOC could/should have been ordered alphabetically to help searching.  The way it's done now isn't very newbie friendly.
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Post by: Scotty on 15 July 2019, 15:21:56
I have never in my life seen a table of contents that didn't match the order of what was actually in the book.  And I'd be incredibly confused if I did.
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Post by: Paul on 15 July 2019, 15:32:24
I have never in my life seen a table of contents that didn't match the order of what was actually in the book.  And I'd be incredibly confused if I did.

Agreed, though an alphabetical mini index of just Mechs would be a nice tool.
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Post by: kinwolf on 15 July 2019, 15:56:11
I have never in my life seen a table of contents that didn't match the order of what was actually in the book.  And I'd be incredibly confused if I did.

It's not like the TRO:SW is a rulebooks, it's a listing of mechs.  I bet you salvage rights that you wouldn't be confused in the slightest.

A proper index would of course be the real solution, but those seems to be a dying breed.
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Post by: Scotty on 15 July 2019, 16:04:53
It's not like the TRO:SW is a rulebooks, it's a listing of mechs.  I bet you salvage rights that you wouldn't be confused in the slightest.

It's a listing of Mechs in the order they appear in the book.  I'd be confused as hell if the TOC goes Akuma, Albatross, Annihilator, Atlas (etc) and the first Mechs in the book go Dart, Fireball, Locust, Commando.  That'd be disorienting as hell.
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Post by: kinwolf on 15 July 2019, 18:40:47
It's a listing of Mechs in the order they appear in the book.  I'd be confused as hell if the TOC goes Akuma, Albatross, Annihilator, Atlas (etc) and the first Mechs in the book go Dart, Fireball, Locust, Commando.  That'd be disorienting as hell.

Then put an index in it in the future, 'cause right now it's frustrating as hell to find anything quickly in those TRO.
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Post by: Scotty on 15 July 2019, 18:43:07
Do... do people not go into a TRO thinking "I know what I'm looking for is a Light/Medium/Heavy/Assault, I'll start there?" if they don't know what it is?

I genuinely do not know what having an index would do to help in this case.  Indices are great and helpful, but based on page-count including one would have meant a couple other designs get left out of it entirely.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: kinwolf on 15 July 2019, 18:45:29
In the "good news" department:  A FLGS that didn't have any battletech stuff for years now carries both current boxes and just received the AS:CE and Techmanual!  Maybe there is some regain of interest locally...!  Maybe... I'll be able to find local opponent(s)!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Daryk on 15 July 2019, 19:11:44
Do... do people not go into a TRO thinking "I know what I'm looking for is a Light/Medium/Heavy/Assault, I'll start there?" if they don't know what it is?

I genuinely do not know what having an index would do to help in this case.  Indices are great and helpful, but based on page-count including one would have meant a couple other designs get left out of it entirely.
As a grognard, I have to laugh at that assertion.  The very definition of "new player" is that they don't know what they're looking for.  An alphabetical index would indeed be helpful to them.

In other news, welcome to the dark side, brother!  I think that comment definitely qualifies you as a grognard!  >:D
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Scotty on 15 July 2019, 19:21:37
Ehhhh, I find Categories on sarna, which are organized alphabetically, to be supremely unhelpful in trying to find anything I'm looking for without checking every single entry on the way to where I'm going.  How often do you go looking for something in a TRO armed with a name and literally nothing else?
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Post by: Daryk on 15 July 2019, 19:37:30
I don't, but I'm a grognard, and I think we have enough evidence before us that new players do sometimes go looking for something with just a name...
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: pixelgeek on 15 July 2019, 19:46:42
I genuinely do not know what having an index would do to help in this case.  Indices are great and helpful, but based on page-count including one would have meant a couple other designs get left out of it entirely.

An index is always a helpful thing and there are few instances in which one wouldn’t be helpful. :-)
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Post by: Ogra_Chief on 15 July 2019, 19:47:47
Quote
How often do you go looking for something in a TRO armed with a name and literally nothing else?

Not to be 'that guy,' but I do. Even though I've been playing since the game shared a shelf with Rouge Trader. I normally play late 3rd SW, and I'm shakey on newer eras and stuff.

But, I agree with the premise to focus on core material.
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Post by: Cubby on 15 July 2019, 19:54:49
Take a closer look at one of the new minis from the Clan Invasion box set!

https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=65650.msg1521227#msg1521227
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Paul on 15 July 2019, 19:56:48
How often do you go looking for something in a TRO armed with a name and literally nothing else?

As an established player: often. I imagine new players would need it even more often.
I agree this shouldn't exist in the TOC, but rather as a stand alone index. The value seems obvious to anyone who hasn't memorized the tonnage of a unit.
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Post by: kinwolf on 15 July 2019, 19:56:55
Do... do people not go into a TRO thinking "I know what I'm looking for is a Light/Medium/Heavy/Assault, I'll start there?" if they don't know what it is?

I genuinely do not know what having an index would do to help in this case.  Indices are great and helpful, but based on page-count including one would have meant a couple other designs get left out of it entirely.

TRO:SW is geared toward new players, right?  Well, I'm a new player without any experience of the old TRO layout, and I find the lack of a way to quickly find a mech page to be frustrating.  I'm sure CGL didn't have the word "frustrating" in mind when designing this TRO for new players, so I'm giving an honest feedback here.  Too late for TRO Clan Invasion sadly. 

Real case here: I want to check the Spider.  I know it's a light mech, and it starts by S, so my first instinct is to look at the first column, toward then end of it and go from there. Whitworth..nope, lets look higher, Vulcan, nope, higher, Sentinel, nope.. wait, logically, Spider should be after Sentinel right?... let's look higher just in case, Hermes II?  Where the heck is the Spider?  In what order are they actually listed???  I then have to start looking everywhere for it when it would have been sooo simple to put them alphabetically.(put them alphabetically by weight class, it would still be great)  And where do I stop looking for light mechs?(meaning, there are no visual separation btw light, med, heavy, etc to facilitate searches)

As for page count, if the TCO takes one page, a simple alphabetical index with the mechs name and corresponding page would take only one too. 
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Post by: nckestrel on 15 July 2019, 20:01:20
I think originally the TRs were short enough, that all the units fit easily on one page and it didn't take that long to scan for a single unit.  With the number of units increasing, an index might be worthwhile.  Still only going to be one page, even if it doesn't replace the ToC.

Take a closer look at one of the new minis from the Clan Invasion box set!

https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=65650.msg1521227#msg1521227

OK, that Executioner keeps looking more and more amazing.


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Post by: dgorsman on 15 July 2019, 20:07:47
How many new players are going with PDF?  That's searchable, right?
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Post by: Doom on 15 July 2019, 20:24:33
To be fair, the original TRO 3025 had both a ToC and an index. Players thus had both means to find units: in the order presented (ToC) and alphabetically (index).
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Post by: Sartris on 15 July 2019, 20:24:56
(Snip) A clear explanation of new player confusion

You might have a second list that’s alphabetical like

Sentinel [40]............##
Shadow Hawk [55]
Shogun [85]
Shootist [70]
Spector [35]
Spider [30]
Stalker [85]
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Post by: nckestrel on 15 July 2019, 20:27:59
To be fair, the original TRO 3025 had both a ToC and an index. Players thus had both means to find units: in the order presented (ToC) and alphabetically (index).

Ha, I had forgotten about that.
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Post by: Scotty on 15 July 2019, 20:30:02
And I never knew, because TRO3025 was out of print for almost fifteen years before I started playing. :D
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Post by: PsylockeSmythe on 16 July 2019, 10:33:14
To be fair, the original TRO 3025 had both a ToC and an index. Players thus had both means to find units: in the order presented (ToC) and alphabetically (index).

The above is what I would perfer.  I've never played TT and started playing the game via the various computer games and on the various Mux's at the time.  So being able to look up the name of a mech via the index was invaluable to me.  Since I didn't know the weight class of everything at the time. 

Psy
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Post by: Cubby on 17 July 2019, 12:00:19
The invasion is here - the BattleTech: Clan Invasion Kickstarter is now LIVE!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/450703636/battletech-clan-invasion (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/450703636/battletech-clan-invasion)

(https://i.ibb.co/KDYZnGq/BT-Kickstarter-Banner-Graphic-full.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m0mspBq)
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Post by: truetanker on 17 July 2019, 22:18:18
The above is what I would perfer.  I've never played TT and

You rang?  :thumbsup:

TT

( Tis a joke... tabletop!  ;D )
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Post by: Charlie Tango on 18 July 2019, 02:49:09
As an established player: often. I imagine new players would need it even more often.
I agree this shouldn't exist in the TOC, but rather as a stand alone index. The value seems obvious to anyone who hasn't memorized the tonnage of a unit.

At least there probably should be the separation marking weight classes in the TRO TOC at least (i.e. header of "Light 'mechs" with the list following, "Medium 'Mechs" etc.)
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Post by: kinwolf on 18 July 2019, 09:15:12
I can also add another example that just happened while looking at the KS stretchgoal listing the Longbow.

*scene reproduction*:  "Oooohhh, longbow!"  *open TRO:SW and look at the TCO for the longbow*  I looked, and looked, and looked.  It's not there, but the amount of time lost making sure I didn't browse over it, is, once again, frustrating.  With an index, it would have taken 5 seconds to confirm it's not in that TRO at all.
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Post by: MarauderD on 18 July 2019, 11:32:21
I can also add another example that just happened while looking at the KS stretchgoal listing the Longbow.

*scene reproduction*:  "Oooohhh, longbow!"  *open TRO:SW and look at the TCO for the longbow*  I looked, and looked, and looked.  It's not there, but the amount of time lost making sure I didn't browse over it, is, once again, frustrating.  With an index, it would have taken 5 seconds to confirm it's not in that TRO at all.

Go to masterunitlist.info.  Type in Longbow.  See that Longbow is 85 tons.  Look at the 85 ton mechs in TRO. Conclude it isn't there.

I agree that an Index would have been the right move, but I guess that ship has sailed.  At this point, the above directions might be the fastest way to deduce the presence or lack thereof of any one certain mech from a TRO.
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Post by: kinwolf on 18 July 2019, 12:15:26
Go to masterunitlist.info.  Type in Longbow.  See that Longbow is 85 tons.  Look at the 85 ton mechs in TRO. Conclude it isn't there.

I agree that an Index would have been the right move, but I guess that ship has sailed.  At this point, the above directions might be the fastest way to deduce the presence or lack thereof of any one certain mech from a TRO.

Hmm, adding even more steps isn't really something I qualify as a solution  :o  And the feedback is for future products indeed.
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Post by: Daryk on 18 July 2019, 16:09:32
The really scary part is that a core rule book (Campaign Operations) doesn't have an index either.  I get the assumption that pdfs are more the rule these days, but omitting indexes is a bad habit to get into.
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Post by: beachhead1985 on 18 July 2019, 17:22:46
I think doing contents by tonnage and then an alphabetical index in the back is the best way to go.

At least our index are better than pathfinder, IMO; when I want to find something, I find many things aren't actually indexed, such as particular Combat Manuvers!
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Post by: Cubby on 23 July 2019, 13:17:26
Now Available - BattleCorps Anthology Vol. 7: Kill Zone

(https://i.ibb.co/2j7ttF8/Kill-Zone-BC-Anthology-7-Cover-7-23a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dQ022fb)

REDEMPTION. RESISTANCE. RESOLVE.

A young Davion MechWarrior seeks to repay a debt incurred by the misfortunes of the Fourth Succession War. A tightly-knit farming community bands together to repel vicious pirates or risk losing their livelihoods…and their lives. A Kurita MechWarrior given a final chance to serve the Dragon stands alone against renegade mercenaries. And the survivors of a crash-landed Steiner command must hold the line against ravenous Word of Blake forces to protect the Allied Coalition’s quest to wrest Terra from the Blakists’ unyielding grip.

Kill Zone: BattleCorps Anthology, Volume 7 collects the very best of the short stories published on the BattleCorps website from 2010. Charge into the war-torn future to experience nine stories filled with BattleMech combat, heroism, betrayal, honor, and duty.

Veteran BattleTech authors Kevin Killiany, Blaine Lee Pardoe, and Jason Schmetzer, alongside fan favorites Craig A. Reed, Jr. and Jason Hansa are showcased in this anthology, which includes an all-new tale from Scribe Award-nominated author Travis Heermann.

Ebook: https://books2read.com/b/mv2j9V

Print on Demand: https://tinyurl.com/BattleCorpsVol7 (https://tinyurl.com/BattleCorpsVol7)
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Post by: Colt Ward on 23 July 2019, 13:40:32
Hmm, that Uziel art gets different background . . . which is funny, b/c its either a RAC or LAC from a custom personal variant.  But IIRC the art existed way before the custom variant.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Scotty on 23 July 2019, 13:43:53
Hmm, that Uziel art gets different background . . . which is funny, b/c its either a RAC or LAC from a custom personal variant.  But IIRC the art existed way before the custom variant.

It's not new, it's just blue instead of the green it was on the Tac Ops cover.
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Post by: Colt Ward on 23 July 2019, 13:51:25
Yeah, and my copy has the Origins sticker right over that Gladiator . . .
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: LightGuard on 23 July 2019, 21:05:36
Now Available - BattleCorps Anthology Vol. 7: Kill Zone

(https://i.ibb.co/2j7ttF8/Kill-Zone-BC-Anthology-7-Cover-7-23a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dQ022fb)

REDEMPTION. RESISTANCE. RESOLVE.

A young Davion MechWarrior seeks to repay a debt incurred by the misfortunes of the Fourth Succession War. A tightly-knit farming community bands together to repel vicious pirates or risk losing their livelihoods…and their lives. A Kurita MechWarrior given a final chance to serve the Dragon stands alone against renegade mercenaries. And the survivors of a crash-landed Steiner command must hold the line against ravenous Word of Blake forces to protect the Allied Coalition’s quest to wrest Terra from the Blakists’ unyielding grip.

Kill Zone: BattleCorps Anthology, Volume 7 collects the very best of the short stories published on the BattleCorps website from 2010. Charge into the war-torn future to experience nine stories filled with BattleMech combat, heroism, betrayal, honor, and duty.

Veteran BattleTech authors Kevin Killiany, Blaine Lee Pardoe, and Jason Schmetzer, alongside fan favorites Craig A. Reed, Jr. and Jason Hansa are showcased in this anthology, which includes an all-new tale from Scribe Award-nominated author Travis Heermann.

Ebook: https://books2read.com/b/mv2j9V

Print on Demand: https://tinyurl.com/BattleCorpsVol7 (https://tinyurl.com/BattleCorpsVol7)

Where's Front Lines, the BattleCorps Volume 6 Anthology? I'm happy to have a new anthology, but shouldn't a digital copy of Volume 6 be made available as well?
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Post by: Bosefius on 23 July 2019, 23:31:12
Where's Front Lines, the BattleCorps Volume 6 Anthology? I'm happy to have a new anthology, but shouldn't a digital copy of Volume 6 be made available as well?

It's being worked on.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bosefius on 23 July 2019, 23:38:59
Whoah, another day another book! The Kell Hounds Ascendant, previously released as a series of novellas, has been gathered together into one volume and is available as Print on Demand!!

"NEVER BET AGAINST THE KELL BROTHERS…The Kell Hounds are one of the most storied mercenary units in the Inner Sphere. Now, New York Times-bestselling author and Kell Hounds creator Michael A. Stackpole goes back to the Hounds’ beginnings in these three short novels, when Morgan and Patrick Kell were just two smart, ambitious brothers—with a plan to revolutionize the world of mercenaries forever… Not How the Smart Money Bets: Morgan and Patrick Kell land on the mercenary planet Galatea to start their new unit, the Kell Hounds. But a few obstacles in their way, including the biggest one, a ruthless crime lord named Haskell Blizzard. But the Kell brothers have faced long odds before, and come out on top every single time. When the chips are down, the smart money is always on the brothers Kell. A Tiny Bit of Rebellion: Galatea’s capital city, Galaport, is threatened by a new enemy: Bishop Arlington Poore, a religious zealot who wants to bring the entire planet under his repressive theocracy—and is willing to starve millions to do it. The Kell Hounds now have their first job: put down this uprising, and fast. But when a madman has converted thousands of civilians to his side, how will Morgan and Patrick end his misguided crusade without shedding innocent blood? A Clever Bit of Fiction: When the Archon hires the Kell Hounds to provide security for war games with Prince Ian Davion’s forces in a show of combined strength between the Lyran Commonwealth and the Federated Suns, Morgan Kell thinks it’s a chance to relax while getting to know the mercurial leader of the Federated Suns. But when a powerful group of raiders lands on Zavijava, he finds himself facing two threats—stopping the invaders from wrecking the planet while protecting Prince Davion. Trouble is, before the fighting is over, Morgan may have to make a dangerous choice…with the possible fate of three Great Houses lying in the balance…"

Print on Demand: https://tinyurl.com/y49ykxrs

(https://i.ibb.co/xCr10Ky/51b-Zo-Xb-V3s-L-AC-SY400.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
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Post by: Sartris on 23 July 2019, 23:41:42
good. i just can't do digital fiction... even on an e-reader
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Post by: Wrangler on 24 July 2019, 11:45:42
Friday for me to get these things.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: MrPopo on 24 July 2019, 13:31:51
Had to register to express my pleasure that the Kell Hounds Ascendant is getting POD and that you're working on Battlecorps Anthology 6.  I've got my fingers crossed that you're going to make A Bonfire of Worlds and the Founding of the Clans trilogy also available on POD.
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Post by: Sartris on 24 July 2019, 13:44:58
in the back of the free fiction, it shows bonfire with updated branding. they don't do that for no reason so here's hoping
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Post by: PyreLight on 24 July 2019, 13:51:11
in the back of the free fiction, it shows bonfire with updated branding. they don't do that for no reason so here's hoping

 :D
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 24 July 2019, 15:09:19
Had to register to express my pleasure that the Kell Hounds Ascendant is getting POD and that you're working on Battlecorps Anthology 6.  I've got my fingers crossed that you're going to make A Bonfire of Worlds and the Founding of the Clans trilogy also available on POD.

Well, 3rd Founding was never written but with Kickstarter it is now supposed to be . . . and the 1st one will be released digitally by August, so it might be POD.  We have had a few products go that route with no indication if they felt it was successful or how long the trial period might be or what projects are candidates for that printing process.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Tyler Jorgensson on 24 July 2019, 17:37:32
*Throws all of the non-existent money at BattleTech things* Damn I hate being poor and then throwing more money at thing I love!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bedwyr on 30 July 2019, 15:18:28
I seem to have lost the thread for the reprint of the Tech Manual. What is its status?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Empyrus on 30 July 2019, 15:23:24
I seem to have lost the thread for the reprint of the Tech Manual. What is its status?
https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=64318.msg1518670#msg1518670
?

Available in print as of July 8.
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Post by: Bedwyr on 30 July 2019, 15:56:23
Thanks!
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Post by: Greatclub on 30 July 2019, 15:56:50
I got my hands on one.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 30 July 2019, 16:00:24
is the art on the spine slighty off or was this just mine?

https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=65995.0
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Post by: Empyrus on 30 July 2019, 16:00:59
Kind of want the new print TM, because i regard its cover as the single greatest piece of BT art. Color, feel, style.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bedwyr on 30 July 2019, 16:20:51
One local store I checked in on a few minutes ago had zero Catalyst stuff available across two distributors. Waiting on a second store to get back to me.
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Post by: kinwolf on 30 July 2019, 16:22:40
is the art on the spine slighty off or was this just mine?

https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=65995.0

Same here
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: kinwolf on 30 July 2019, 16:23:59
One local store I checked in on a few minutes ago had zero Catalyst stuff available across two distributors. Waiting on a second store to get back to me.

I got it from a FLGS here, so it must be listed in some distributor.
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Post by: Bedwyr on 30 July 2019, 16:30:00
I got it from a FLGS here, so it must be listed in some distributor.

Luck of the draw on distributors I guess.
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Post by: Colt Ward on 30 July 2019, 16:48:03
My FLGS has started ordering direct from IWM.  I think we are three orders in, and we have talked to them about the KS . . . apparently the owners are discussing getting involved, but they are not yet.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: PyreLight on 30 July 2019, 17:29:28
is the art on the spine slighty off or was this just mine?

https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=65995.0

Which of the books have this spine? Techmanual, Total Warfare, and...?

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Post by: Sartris on 30 July 2019, 17:35:57
Just those two so far. Reprints of TO and SO are planned
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Post by: Greatclub on 30 July 2019, 17:40:49
Not ATOW? or is legends replacing it entirely?

Lifepath and point-based build systems meh. Won't be sad to see it go.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bedwyr on 30 July 2019, 17:59:56
Not ATOW? or is legends replacing it entirely?

Lifepath and point-based build systems meh. Won't be sad to see it go.

I haven't seen any change of plans regarding the rest of the books. I believe they intend to continue with the reprint styles past SO.
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Post by: faithless on 30 July 2019, 18:04:44
My FLGS has started ordering direct from IWM.  I think we are three orders in, and we have talked to them about the KS . . . apparently the owners are discussing getting involved, but they are not yet.

2 IWM orders so far, but they will take requests for the next order. I talked to them again Thursday about the KS and they are doing the kickstarter. I told them there are locals that will be interested in packs. They said they will put people on a list and wont charge them till later when they come in.
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Post by: I am Belch II on 30 July 2019, 19:24:15
If I want mechs and units I will go thru IWM to get them.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 30 July 2019, 19:47:38
Not ATOW? or is legends replacing it entirely?

Lifepath and point-based build systems meh. Won't be sad to see it go.

I think the attitude past SO was “we’ll see how t goes”
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Post by: Colt Ward on 31 July 2019, 02:59:41
Okay, so the latest Anthology has a taste of Redemption Rift . . . was it a BC serial?
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 31 July 2019, 03:02:32
Okay, so the latest Anthology has a taste of Redemption Rift . . . was it a BC serial?

Yeah, 4-parts published between April and June 2013.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 31 July 2019, 05:16:54
How many of these stories are left to published.  I wasn't a subscriber, but i find it surprising there so any many stories still in the vault of the BattleCorp that have yet to be published in book form.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cache on 31 July 2019, 06:41:33
How many of these stories are left to published.  I wasn't a subscriber, but i find it surprising there so any many stories still in the vault of the BattleCorp that have yet to be published in book form.
There are 421 stories listed on Sarna.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 31 July 2019, 07:49:43
I haven't seen any change of plans regarding the rest of the books. I believe they intend to continue with the reprint styles past SO.

We have not announced plans beyond SO.
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Post by: Cubby on 31 July 2019, 07:51:51
How many of these stories are left to published.  I wasn't a subscriber, but i find it surprising there so any many stories still in the vault of the BattleCorp that have yet to be published in book form.

But not all will be published in anthology form, is my guess. Vol. 7 is stories from 2010. The last BattleCorps story (mine, as it happens) was published December of 2016.
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Post by: Sartris on 31 July 2019, 08:10:48
There are 421 stories listed on Sarna.

not quite that many. that list includes the unabridged record sheet pdfs, the print anthology volumes, and a few pages made for series like the six-part Proliferation cycle and the seven stories from the Operation Rat serial. it also includes the novels, which were released on BC, but aren't strictly BC stories. i've got 355 357 [bonfire and nellus academy were bc originals] on my list that qualify as BC originals (including the alternate chapter to storms of fate and the essay on The Sword and The Dagger)... though i can't guarantee that's 100% accurate

How many of these stories are left to published.  I wasn't a subscriber, but i find it surprising there so any many stories still in the vault of the BattleCorp that have yet to be published in book form.

i've got 140 stories published between anthologies, and items you can get on amazon like the two-part Ghost Bear's Lament novellas, or are being released through kickstarter. admittedly, fiction isn't my primary focus so there may be some i've missed. that means there's still around 200 stories to push out as need arises.
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Post by: Cubby on 01 August 2019, 13:00:49
A tour of the BattleTech section of the CGL Gen Con booth:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2452249658175704&id=155068684560491 (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2452249658175704&id=155068684560491)
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Post by: caioaf on 01 August 2019, 13:57:15
https://www.instagram.com/p/B0n2vbTHh5F/?hl=pt

I can see ilClan between Mechwarrior Destiny and new versions of TacOps

I wonder how soon is soon
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Post by: Bedwyr on 01 August 2019, 13:58:23
We have not announced plans beyond SO.

Oops, sorry. I shouldn't have characterized it that way.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 01 August 2019, 14:16:14
https://www.instagram.com/p/B0n2vbTHh5F/?hl=pt

I can see ilClan between Mechwarrior Destiny and new versions of TacOps

I wonder how soon is soon

I wish I could get a closeup of the lance packs :drool: Has anyone else posted pictures from GenCon?
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 01 August 2019, 14:58:00
https://www.instagram.com/p/B0n2vbTHh5F/?hl=pt

I can see ilClan between Mechwarrior Destiny and new versions of TacOps

I wonder how soon is soon
Not soon.
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Post by: Wrangler on 01 August 2019, 15:00:39
What is MechWarrior Destiny?  They used a updated version of the old MechWarrior 1 PC game cover.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 01 August 2019, 15:02:57
What is MechWarrior Destiny?  They used a updated version of the old MechWarrior 1 PC game cover.

A more streamlined and rules-light RPG with self-contained mech combat rules.  There's a brief blurb about it in the This is BattleTech PDF that's part of the Kickstarter backer digital rewards.
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Post by: SCC on 01 August 2019, 15:08:07
TacOps has been split into two volumes now, interesting.
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Post by: Colt Ward on 01 August 2019, 15:11:12
Not soon.

Lol, great answer . . . to be clear, no sarcasm, it just tickled my funny bone.
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Post by: Tyler Jorgensson on 01 August 2019, 15:36:05
“When will then be now?!”

“Soon!”

Lol, great answer . . . to be clear, no sarcasm, it just tickled my funny bone.
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Post by: Sartris on 01 August 2019, 15:38:08
TacOps has been split into two volumes now, interesting.

Has anyone gotten a good look at the covers? I was internally debating whether it was two volumes or a standard and special edition cover
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Post by: Insaniac99 on 01 August 2019, 15:39:31
Has anyone gotten a good look at the covers? I was internally debating whether it was two volumes or a standard and special edition cover

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/603703925165654026/606512310575693827/image2.jpg)
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Post by: Sartris on 01 August 2019, 15:42:28
Ok that’s unexpected. Thanks. I couldn’t make out anything but a white blur from any of the other pics I saw

An appended idle thought: strat ops seems like a good candidate for the same treatment
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Post by: Daryk on 01 August 2019, 16:08:35
I don't know... I prefer my rulebooks heavy enough to kill someone with...  :D
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Post by: Greatclub on 01 August 2019, 16:13:48
Wondering if tac1, tac2 and strat ate interstellar ops.

/Speculate
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Post by: hoosierhick on 01 August 2019, 16:21:23
Loving the cover on Tac Ops Advanced Units & Equipment.  That was a favorite of mine from way back.  What was the image on the other Tac Ops book used on before?  I know I've seen it but I can't remember where.
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Post by: Empyrus on 01 August 2019, 16:23:18
Loving the cover on Tac Ops Advanced Units & Equipment.  That was a favorite of mine from way back.  What was the image on the other Tac Ops book used on before?  I know I've seen it but I can't remember where.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/CityTech,_Second_Edition
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Post by: Sartris on 01 August 2019, 16:56:31
Wondering if tac1, tac2 and strat ate interstellar ops.

/Speculate

An interesting idea. Alternate eras seems like a book all its own though. I’ve tinkered with reorganizing the core books but my ideas usually cut up strat ops and had a super TM with advanced support vehicles, structures, and aerospace. I still think having BF, SBF, and ISaW would be more efficent
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Post by: Wrangler on 01 August 2019, 17:01:59
Why split the book? Save money does the old book have something lacking?
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Post by: Sartris on 01 August 2019, 17:05:03
It might be more than a simple reprint eg bringing in stuff like tripods and LAMs along with advanced gear introduced after 2008 like TSEMP. I don’t think they’d split it in half unless they had a reason.
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Post by: Empyrus on 01 August 2019, 17:10:26
Well, compatibility with BattleMech Manual works as a reason for splitting.
Like, you may not need extra tech since BMM covers quite a bit but could do with more advanced rules, or you don't need rules but want more tech.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 01 August 2019, 17:16:33
That would be a reason, sure. You could still do both - split off the rules for BMM people AND add stuff from intops / sourcebooks to the liberated pages. Advantage being getting those rules back in print instead of waiting potentially years to cycle back to an intops reprint
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Post by: PyreLight on 01 August 2019, 17:26:33
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/603703925165654026/606512310575693827/image2.jpg)

I'm so happy to see that they're re-using old artwork by Steve Venters and Doug Chaffe
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Post by: Ogra_Chief on 01 August 2019, 17:33:13
The artwork has a sci-fi 50's vibe, lost in the black & white versions. Something I have never appreciated till right now. Good call on the cover art CGL.
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Post by: Ursus Maior on 01 August 2019, 18:48:31
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/603703925165654026/606512310575693827/image2.jpg)
Uh, very unexpected. Wasn't there an update under the right cover just last year?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Two Guns Blazing on 01 August 2019, 18:50:20
In regards to the artwork on the latest printing of the core rule books, I would have preferred to simply keep what was already on them...nothing new, nothing old, no additional costs...they already had excellent artwork on them...anyway, I'll buy these two Tac Ops books when they are released...
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Daryk on 01 August 2019, 18:54:21
As long as the single volume version continues to get errata updates in pdf, I'm good...
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Post by: I am Belch II on 01 August 2019, 19:20:30
Cant wait for the new stuff.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 01 August 2019, 19:38:04
It might be more than a simple reprint eg bringing in stuff like tripods and LAMs along with advanced gear introduced after 2008 like TSEMP. I don’t think they’d split it in half unless they had a reason.
No, it’s just a reprint, split in two.
A 400 page supplemental game book is not viable, on many levels.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 01 August 2019, 19:40:32
As long as the single volume version continues to get errata updates in pdf, I'm good...
We won’t be updating two versions of the same book(s).
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Post by: Sartris on 01 August 2019, 19:54:21
No, it’s just a reprint, split in two.
A 400 page supplemental game book is not viable, on many levels.

Huh. I suppose not.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Daryk on 01 August 2019, 20:04:10
So, to keep getting errata, we need to buy the two new volumes?  ???
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Post by: Wrangler on 01 August 2019, 20:05:00
We won’t be updating two versions of the same book(s).
So...the single volume people are out of luck? We have to use the twin volumes if we need errants done?  :(
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: pheonixstorm on 01 August 2019, 20:09:28
We won’t be updating two versions of the same book(s).

I think this has everyone confused including me.
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Post by: Sartris on 01 August 2019, 20:13:24
I suppose that depends on if previous purchasers get the split volume for free. RS: 3075U was split into two volumes when they added BA and people who bought the single big pdf got both when they pushed the upgrades
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Post by: Doom on 01 August 2019, 20:15:08
They don't update The BattleTech Compendium, because later books superseded it. These two new books supersede the single older book. Thus, updates/errata will be provided for the two new books, but they will no longer provide updates/errata for the old obsolete book.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 01 August 2019, 20:17:14
What we need to know (eventually) is if we purchased the TacOps single volume PDF, will we get the new dual volume version as a standard update or will we have to buy both volumes again for continued support
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Post by: Wrangler on 01 August 2019, 20:22:11
While handy having less to carry if you don't need certain book, i still rather have in one place than more books to misplace.  (shrugs)
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Post by: Greatclub on 01 August 2019, 20:22:39
They don't update The BattleTech Compendium, because later books superseded it. These two new books supersede the single older book. Thus, updates/errata will be provided for the two new books, but they will no longer provide updates/errata for the old obsolete book.

Bad example, compendium was out before the internet. BMRr would be closer, but these are still called tacops. I could see it going either way.

Adrian, what changed? Price of printing, distribution, customer base, tacops never worked?
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Post by: Brigoon on 01 August 2019, 20:47:40
Did anyone happen to notice the Clan invasion TRO is out?
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Post by: Sartris on 01 August 2019, 20:51:35
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/l0ErO5YlkTYkcZi3C/giphy.gif?cid=790b76115d43970f5861456e32a3b0d9&rid=giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Doom on 01 August 2019, 21:03:24
Bad example, compendium was out before the internet. BMRr would be closer, but these are still called tacops. I could see it going either way.

Bad example, the internet predates the game of BattleTech and even BattleDroids, whether you date it to ARPANet's birth in 1967 or the coining of the term internet in 1974 or the adoption of TCP/IP in 1983.

Also no, the old book was called Tactical Operations. These appear to be called Tactical Operations: Advanced Units and Equipment, and Tactical Operations: Advanced Rules.

Perhaps this analogy will meet approval: They didn't hand out copies of the Master Rules Revised to people who had purchased the Master Rules.

But I suppose if people raise enough of a stink the honchos will give free downloads so that they can sell fewer of these.
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Post by: Brigoon on 01 August 2019, 21:16:30
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/l0ErO5YlkTYkcZi3C/giphy.gif?cid=790b76115d43970f5861456e32a3b0d9&rid=giphy.gif)


It's pretty cool, I would recommend checking it out.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 01 August 2019, 21:38:32
The 3250 intro provides some... interesting clues about the state of things in the future
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Post by: Wrangler on 01 August 2019, 21:49:35
The 3250 intro provides some... interesting clues about the state of things in the future
From TRO: Succession Wars?

Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 01 August 2019, 21:51:16
the one from clan invasion
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: hf22 on 01 August 2019, 22:48:46
Did I miss an announcement yesterday about TRO Clan Invasion becoming available online?

Because its up on drivethrurpg today.
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Post by: Sartris on 01 August 2019, 22:49:40
it just kind of... appeared

much like the clans
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Post by: Valkerie on 01 August 2019, 23:21:32
Book and PDF are available through the CGL store.  Not everyone's cup of tea I know.  Ordered mine though. :thumbsup:
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Post by: ActionButler on 02 August 2019, 05:39:16
Love the cover art.
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Post by: Wrangler on 02 August 2019, 05:59:01
Eesh this upcoming releases thread we find out about unofficially about the new product.  xp
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Post by: ActionButler on 02 August 2019, 06:02:48
Eh, it’s Gencon, I assume that Cubby is crazy busy with other things.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 02 August 2019, 06:09:59
Eh, it’s Gencon, I assume that Cubby is crazy busy with other things.

Yeah, he posted in the Gencon thread a little while ago to say he was exhausted.
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Post by: Scotty on 02 August 2019, 06:37:26
Everyone at GenCon exists in a perpetual haze of exhaustion.
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Post by: Geont on 02 August 2019, 06:54:24
Everyone at GenCon exists in a perpetual haze of exhaustion.

Does everyone have enough coffee to make them stay awake? Coffee intake is important!  ;D
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 02 August 2019, 07:10:49
Does everyone have enough coffee to make them stay awake? Coffee intake is important!  ;D

Better*, CGL have BattleTech and Shadowrun-themed energy drinks!


*or possibly worse
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Hussar2 on 02 August 2019, 09:01:14
Did I miss an announcement yesterday about TRO Clan Invasion becoming available online?

Because its up on drivethrurpg today.

Does this TRO has anything relevant for an old player? New artwork? New variants or new fluff?
I really try to find a reason to purchase this.
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Post by: Empyrus on 02 August 2019, 09:05:07
Does this TRO has anything relevant for an old player? New artwork? New variants or new fluff?
I really try to find a reason to purchase this.
Previously it was stated no new art.
And presumably that means no new fluff, TROSW had new fluff for the ones with new art.

Intro text is new, 3250 stuff apparently.

Not really meant for old players.
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Post by: Sartris on 02 August 2019, 09:05:58
the only new thing is the 3250 intro blurb
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Post by: Colt Ward on 02 August 2019, 09:07:09
Not if you had the last series of TRO3050u . . . the new books are entry points for new players, a revision of the system that is compatible with the new box arrangement and the eras as listed by the MUL- IE, if you want to play in the Clan Invasion, you can (or will be able to ) buy the Clan Invasion box and TRO Clan Invasion to cover the era for play.

I am wondering if they are going to do TRO Classic, Legends or something like that for the new art on the old Unseen- they have been notably missing in TROs Succession Wars & Clan Invasion.
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Post by: Hussar2 on 02 August 2019, 09:15:38
Thank you all for the quick reply!
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Post by: Sartris on 02 August 2019, 09:18:21
there was talk of more compilation TROs in the what's new session.

a classics volume would be pretty thin as there's around 30-35 total unseen. you could stick the updated IS and Clan classics into a clan invasion v2.

i feel like one more is appropriate. too many entries brings back the can't keep shit in print dilema.
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Post by: Colt Ward on 02 August 2019, 09:32:36
Oh yeah, I was suggesting Classic/Legends that would cover all the Unseen or even stuff they threw out to hedge against challenges.  Using Sarna's list I get 37 not including the LAMs, but that does not include the Osts, Stone Rhino, or any of the vehicle/ASF/DS art that is problematic.

Marauder IIC & Warhammer IIC are interesting since they are showing PP art but we are getting new art in CI.

Huh, House Arano is #10 on DriveThru's Best Selling titles for whatever time frame they measure, still in the running nice . . .
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Post by: Cache on 02 August 2019, 12:27:26
Marauder IIC & Warhammer IIC are interesting since they are showing PP art but we are getting new art in CI.
It's not just PP art. The entries are basically the PP entries. Only PP variants are described with nothing relating to the Unseen/nuSeen designs.

It makes sense given the introduction.
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Post by: Sartris on 02 August 2019, 12:29:32
It's not just PP art. The entries are basically the PP entries. Only PP variants are described with nothing relating to the Unseen/nuSeen designs.

yeah, they are the PP entries. the 3250 intro makes specific mention of them.
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Post by: Colt Ward on 02 August 2019, 12:43:52
Interesting . . . I do not have it so I could not have said.

Yeah, the original Warhammer IIC is a nicely functional mech, but the 4 is really a superior machine and the Sharks sold it far & wide.
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Post by: Greatclub on 02 August 2019, 12:55:07
Interesting . . . I do not have it so I could not have said.

Yeah, the original Warhammer IIC is a nicely functional mech, but the 4 is really a superior machine and the Sharks sold it far & wide.

I think I'll stick with the IIC 1 for infighting and general duties, thanks.
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Post by: Wrangler on 02 August 2019, 14:00:02
Marauder IIC & Rifleman IIC standards were great fighting machines that deserve classic art.
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Post by: Geont on 02 August 2019, 14:22:05
Better*, CGL have BattleTech and Shadowrun-themed energy drinks!


*or possibly worse

Oh man, how could I forgot about them?! These were cool looking. :D
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 02 August 2019, 15:41:26
After going through the Gencon vid with CGL.  Aside from hints of the future, nothing in name was spelled out.
So we frankly don't know, except IlClan been delayed until 2020 due in part of the Kick Start.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Liam's Ghost on 02 August 2019, 18:12:22
So this book wasn't really intended for me and it could be argued that spending twenty dollars on it was a needless extravagance on my part (this is not a complaint. I knew going in that it wouldn't have any new designs and I bought it anyway, and I hope lots of new fans get some joy out of it as a first taste). Still, I'm pretty giddy about the book simply because of the intro.

Resistance to the dominion of the Ilclan still exists! We can indeed fight the future! Renegades unite!
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Post by: I am Belch II on 02 August 2019, 19:42:40
The TRO Clan Invasion the only new book for Gencon or is there others?
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Post by: Sartris on 02 August 2019, 20:08:48
No I don’t think so. The Kickstarter has taken over
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 03 August 2019, 00:56:20
The TRO Clan Invasion the only new book for Gencon or is there others?

Alpha Strike Commander's edition too, but it's hit retail.  They also have copies of the House Arano sourcebook, the new novels and anthologies, and the TechManual reprint.
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Post by: RifleMech on 03 August 2019, 01:56:15
What we need to know (eventually) is if we purchased the TacOps single volume PDF, will we get the new dual volume version as a standard update or will we have to buy both volumes again for continued support

I'd like to know too.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: MarauderD on 03 August 2019, 13:44:17
Regarding the recent release of TRO: Clan Invasion, I just noticed something odd.

It is missing the Shadow Hawk and Griffin.  Has everything else you would expect.  Both of those are in the Beginner's box/GoAC box.  Yet between the two new TRO's, we don't have an entry for them.  Odd, eh?

Cheers,

Mad
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Post by: Empyrus on 03 August 2019, 13:48:13
Regarding the recent release of TRO: Clan Invasion, I just noticed something odd.

It is missing the Shadow Hawk and Griffin.  Has everything else you would expect.  Both of those are in the Beginner's box/GoAC box.  Yet between the two new TRO's, we don't have an entry for them.  Odd, eh?

Cheers,

Mad

They're in TRO SW.
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Post by: MarauderD on 03 August 2019, 14:44:22
So is the thud, but the Thud returns in TRO:CI. 
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Post by: Wrangler on 03 August 2019, 21:17:08
They're in TRO SW.
So if their in TRO: SW, can they be used in Clan Invasion? This sort reply is why i think it's potentially going confuse new players.  xp 
Its going scatter stuff something terrible.
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Post by: SCC on 03 August 2019, 21:28:40
So if their in TRO: SW, can they be used in Clan Invasion? This sort reply is why i think it's potentially going confuse new players.  xp 
Its going scatter stuff something terrible.
Doing it by years won't improve this, the only way to fix that is a massive cull of the number of 'Mechs and put everything into a single lightweight and cheap volume.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 03 August 2019, 21:30:34
So if their in TRO: SW, can they be used in Clan Invasion? This sort reply is why i think it's potentially going confuse new players.  xp 
Its going scatter stuff something terrible.

the enforcer iii was only in 3060. can i use it in 3067? 3075? 3085? what in tro 3060 (in-universe perspective: 3060) answers those questions any better than TRO: Clan Invasion?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 03 August 2019, 21:44:36
the enforcer iii was only in 3060. can i use it in 3067? 3075? 3085? what in tro 3060 (in-universe perspective: 3060) answers those questions any better than TRO: Clan Invasion?
The way the books were written, they would appear to be available.  However, that's me assuming. Since it's been part of the game. new player won't know that, unless they spell it out in a TRO or source book.  They would have to the MUL.
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Post by: Sartris on 03 August 2019, 21:49:30
The way the books were written, they would appear to be available.

from the perspective of 3060, you can infer that you can use them in 3085? No, you cannot.

They would have to the MUL.

so just like any other organization (ie TRO by years confers no actual benefit besides appeasing old players)

Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Wrangler on 03 August 2019, 21:54:42
Era thing limits number units per era (Mechs, Fighters, Tanks, etc) unless their planning to have companion book or something TRO by Era book. If this reorganization continues. I wonder CGL will have have Volume 2 Clan Invasion etc.  have updating chapter (Old is the New New sort thing) at end like TRO: 3085, Prototypes etc did.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 03 August 2019, 22:01:56
Era thing limits number units per era (Mechs, Fighters, Tanks, etc) unless their planning to have companion book or something TRO by Era book.

where does it say you can't have mechs (or variants of mechs) in future eras? how is that different than a whitworth variant showing up in the jihad?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: SCC on 03 August 2019, 22:17:22
The way the books were written, they would appear to be available.  However, that's me assuming. Since it's been part of the game. new player won't know that, unless they spell it out in a TRO or source book.  They would have to the MUL.
Your logic is incredibly flawed. Your saying that because the new TRO's have eras in them I'll assume that the 'Mechs in them are only available in the era in the name, but if the TRO's are by year I won't assume that the 'Mechs contained within are only available in that year? By you logic I can assume that every design published in TRO:3050 was out of production, if not extinct by 3055 because that's when the next year TRO comes out, and that no 'Mechs where produced between 3058 and 3060
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: SteveRestless on 04 August 2019, 12:30:15
What I would love to see, as a longtime player that has original unredacted TROs from way back, and has no need to rebuy this TRO, is a way to cheaply buy or just read this 3250 intro because I am coupling starving for plot forward information. But I can think of few things less appealing than paying again for product I already own.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 04 August 2019, 12:33:12
what i'd like is if they took something like TRO: Succession Wars, shuffle the units a bit (eg Ymir out, Mad II in) and then rewrite the entire thing from the perspective of 3250
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Orwell84 on 04 August 2019, 16:30:04
What I would love to see, as a longtime player that has original unredacted TROs from way back, and has no need to rebuy this TRO, is a way to cheaply buy or just read this 3250 intro because I am coupling starving for plot forward information. But I can think of few things less appealing than paying again for product I already own.

The preview pages on DriveThruPRG include the 3250 intro - https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/282218/BattleTech-Technical-Readout-Clan-Invasion?src=hottest (https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/282218/BattleTech-Technical-Readout-Clan-Invasion?src=hottest)
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Post by: Wrangler on 04 August 2019, 17:37:17
That's treat seeing the intro for the future.  Well, at least i know no new Classics are in this book.  I still find it strange having Project Phoenix mechs in this book a decade before they were introduced in the Civil War Era.

EDIT: Bloody hell i didn't think of it before. If the mechs in the Civil War TRO are Project Phoenix. Does that means some of the new plastic mechs coming out aside from are going end up a Project Phoenix mechs as well like the Marauder II and the Longbow?
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Post by: Sartris on 04 August 2019, 17:52:56
No they’ll be like the other classics. The PP mechs were used I suspect because of the lawsuit
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 05 August 2019, 08:51:21
Eesh this upcoming releases thread we find out about unofficially about the new product.  xp

You do when myself and literally everyone else who handles announcements is at the con. Not ideal in terms of timing, but also a total exception to the work we've been putting in over the last months to avoid what you describe happening.

Expect to see a usual "Now Available!" post today or mid-week, whenever my will to live returns.

The TRO Clan Invasion the only new book for Gencon or is there others?

Two thoughts here, because I kept seeing this question pop up here and on social media over the weekend.

One: I/we did not have time to do the usual "CGL at Gen Con 2019" product rundown post before the con. Something of an oversight on my part, but there was a lot going on, too. But that post would have been able to provide the "nothing you don't already know about" answer to that question.

Two: I'm a believer that any business, through its actions, "trains" its customers what to expect. So when a business changes its actions or tactics, it has to expect a period of "re-training" for those customers (and may want to make plans to assist that process).

The idea that "new stuff shows up at Gen Con" has been the case for years, and given that CGL and most game companies focus releases around the big cons, that's not likely to change. What is changing is the "shows up at" part. There's been a concerted effort on the part of management, Ray, myself, Bosefius and others to make sure that upcoming product is announced ahead of time, ideally with updates as production continues. So the days of new product blorping into existence at Gen Con without ever having been mentioned before are hopefully over.

I don't fault the many many people who have asked "what's new at Gen Con this year?" Not at all. They're used to years past. What they're not used to is the answer being "nothing you didn't already know about, but some stuff which hasn't been available for purchase previously."
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Post by: Colt Ward on 05 August 2019, 09:32:51
Personally, and stated before several times, I was looking forward to seeing the prototypes of the KS minis.  And was not disappointed (man, that Phoenix Hawk looks sharp!) when the photos started surfacing.  You going to be doing any summary of what was released so far to KS backers?  I realize most of the fiction so far is recycled BattleCorp fiction, but as I understand it some is not.
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Post by: Cubby on 05 August 2019, 10:00:49
Personally, and stated before several times, I was looking forward to seeing the prototypes of the KS minis.  And was not disappointed (man, that Phoenix Hawk looks sharp!) when the photos started surfacing.

They did look great - Adrian Gideon was my partner for Masters and Minions, and ran the new Phoenix Hawk; it looks really great painted up on the table. (Our lance is pictured. I asked for "something colorful" and the artist went with a dazzle camo scheme that actually has CamoSpecs precedent (http://camospecs.com/Miniature/Details/6875/atlas-jumping-as7-k). My fault on the lighting in that second photo, the paint job was much brighter than shown.)

(https://i.ibb.co/v4bP7Hc/IMG-1319.jpg) (https://ibb.co/B2mZXtf) (https://i.ibb.co/C8dvV2f/IMG-1316.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sRSQsHZ)

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You going to be doing any summary of what was released so far to KS backers?  I realize most of the fiction so far is recycled BattleCorp fiction, but as I understand it some is not.

I think that'd be useful, too. I'll pass it along.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Shin_Fenris on 05 August 2019, 10:24:49
Slightly off-topic, but is the red/black the Red Duke's paint scheme? I was planning on putting some of my box set and KS 'Mechs toward building his unit, but couldn't tell from the book if it was a "bisected at the waist" type of split.

Also, that dazzle camo scheme is fire. I like it.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Cubby on 05 August 2019, 10:27:01
Slightly off-topic, but is the red/black the Red Duke's paint scheme? I was planning on putting some of my box set and KS 'Mechs toward building his unit, but couldn't tell from the book if it was a "bisected at the waist" type of split.

Also, that dazzle camo scheme is fire. I like it.

Yes. Ray asked for the Red Duke's Marauder and scheme. You'll notice the base is blue and has some resin-y waves on it - it's intended to be the Marauder from the cover of the Beginner Box, which was the Duke's.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 05 August 2019, 11:03:54
Slightly off-topic, but is the red/black the Red Duke's paint scheme? I was planning on putting some of my box set and KS 'Mechs toward building his unit, but couldn't tell from the book if it was a "bisected at the waist" type of split.
the paint scheme is red, with black legs and trim.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: worktroll on 05 August 2019, 11:33:03
Interestingly, only the Red Duke, and his XO Harimander Singh, get the red & black schemes. As of Decision at Thunder Rift, other 'Mechs in the Red Hunters were flat grey and black, except for one Wasp in orange-black tiger stripes. The MAD that Grayson Carlisle captured belonged to Vallendel, and was in grey and black.

Why yes, I am obsessively scanning that book so I can build the Red Hunters using Classics from the KS.

W.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 05 August 2019, 11:43:09
Why yes, I am obsessively scanning that book so I can build the Red Hunters using Classics from the KS.

W.

👀👀👀

We look forward to the pics in the minis thread... in 2021  :D
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Shin_Fenris on 05 August 2019, 11:44:32
Interestingly, only the Red Duke, and his XO Harimander Singh, get the red & black schemes. As of Decision at Thunder Rift, other 'Mechs in the Red Hunters were flat grey and black, except for one Wasp in orange-black tiger stripes. The MAD that Grayson Carlisle captured belonged to Vallendel, and was in grey and black.

Why yes, I am obsessively scanning that book so I can build the Red Hunters using Classics from the KS.

W.

...so I, uh, should probably purchase that book now...
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Fat Guy on 05 August 2019, 12:03:18
Interestingly, Mike Stackpole always described the Kell Hounds as red with black legs.


Very similar.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 05 August 2019, 12:14:37
...so I, uh, should probably purchase that book now...

available for ereader and as PoD!
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: RifleMech on 06 August 2019, 06:41:48
what i'd like is if they took something like TRO: Succession Wars, shuffle the units a bit (eg Ymir out, Mad II in) and then rewrite the entire thing from the perspective of 3250

That would have been great.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: SteelRaven on 06 August 2019, 08:27:51
Interestingly, Mike Stackpole always described the Kell Hounds as red with black legs.


Very similar.

So many units use Red or Red on Black, it's not even funny.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Colt Ward on 06 August 2019, 09:17:20
Then you throw on Maroon & Black, Maroon & Gray . . . Maroon & Charcoal . . . yeah, its going to make visual identification of any mystery opponents who use those sorts of colors difficult.

Scout- (using salute) "Lance, patrolling, Grid XXXYYY . . . uh . . . well, the warbook is hard to determine . . . could be Kell Hounds, Wolf Dragoon's Wolf Spiders, some Kurita noble, Mayhem's Misfits, Ch-" (burst of static, signal goes dead).

Yeah, using those colors should make it easier to kill scouts simply b/c they are flipping through screens trying to match up with who they found.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 06 August 2019, 09:38:53
In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only

red paint
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: mbear on 06 August 2019, 10:13:00
In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only

red paint

Is that because the grim darkness takes the place of black paint?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 06 August 2019, 10:15:39
correct
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Maingunnery on 06 August 2019, 11:00:27
So many units use Red or Red on Black, it's not even funny.
It is an easy type of camo to paint.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Frabby on 06 August 2019, 11:48:11
So many units use Red or Red on Black, it's not even funny.
It's also a good camo pattern for the Desert Mountain/Desert Sinkhole maps from Map Pack 3. I love those maps.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: BairdEC on 06 August 2019, 18:33:12
Which is why SALUTE is often abbreviated to SALT....

Then you throw on Maroon & Black, Maroon & Gray . . . Maroon & Charcoal . . . yeah, its going to make visual identification of any mystery opponents who use those sorts of colors difficult.

Scout- (using salute) "Lance, patrolling, Grid XXXYYY . . . uh . . . well, the warbook is hard to determine . . . could be Kell Hounds, Wolf Dragoon's Wolf Spiders, some Kurita noble, Mayhem's Misfits, Ch-" (burst of static, signal goes dead).

Yeah, using those colors should make it easier to kill scouts simply b/c they are flipping through screens trying to match up with who they found.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Phobos101 on 07 August 2019, 06:17:20
The last paint factory fell in the second succession war. Someone cracked open a Star League cache full of fire engine red.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: RifleMech on 07 August 2019, 07:50:10
from the perspective of 3060, you can infer that you can use them in 3085? No, you cannot.

so just like any other organization (ie TRO by years confers no actual benefit besides appeasing old players)

You're wanting TPTB to print in a TRO when a unit is going to go extinct?  Off hand the only TROs that do that are TRO:2750 and TRO:3026R and much of that has been retconned with downgrades and Comstar exclusives. Sure there's more in TRO:3075 but I don't count those as those units are being reintroduced in that TRO. From that point forward they're available.

As I've said before with TROs by years you knew that as of that date the unit was available. Unless something is printed you may presume those units remain available later. Going by Era though is vague. The Succession Wars covered 4 wars over several hundred years. You have to hunt for which the unit is available. For example, the fluff for the Hussar says that scant few remained after Kerensky's exodus and it became a lost design until 3051. Does the Hussar survive beyond the opening salvo of the First Succession War? Does it survive long enough to be in the Second Succession War? When exactly is the Hussar available?

TRO:Succession Wars certainly doesn't do this
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You hold in your hands the requested compilation of BattleMechs in operation across the Inner Sphere, beginning in the Age of War, continuing through the time of the First Star League and the Succession Wars, and up to the eve of Operation REVIVAL.
It can't with units going extinct.


Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 07 August 2019, 08:05:32
Year TROs present both ridiculous production costs for cgl and entry cost for new players. Your ideal doesn’t work in a competitive market where money matters. A lot. If you’re concerned about extinction dates you’re deep enough in to know about the MUL.

Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 07 August 2019, 08:40:58
If you’re concerned about extinction dates you’re deep enough in to know about the MUL.
This guy.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: SteelRaven on 07 August 2019, 08:56:14
Considering how many people on this forum feild Primitives on a regular basis, don't think many care about extinction dates.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 07 August 2019, 09:01:08
Considering how many people on this forum feild Primitives on a regular basis, don't think many care about extinction dates.

Probably because I look at EXTINCT as meaning

NO LONGER IN PRODUCTION

not

THEY ALL SUDDENLY DISAPPEARED

Real World Example

The MODEL T Ford is no longer in production. Doesn;t mean I can't find them out in the world, or machine replacement part for them
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 07 August 2019, 09:08:49
If it actually says Extinct, then there are no known (in universe) examples of that unit in a military force and it is believed by everyone to no longer be in service anywhere.
The MUL is about combat deployment, and informing players what is in use. It could be in a museum, or hidden in a star league cache, or maybe somebody has one and the rest of the Inner Sphere doesn't know about.  None of those count.

The MUL isn't interested in being a straight-jacket.  We're a tool to assist, not to beat people with.  If a player wants an extinct mech, it's their (local) game.  If a writer wants one in a story, it's an exception.  We move on.  We informed and people did what they wanted and good for them.

plenty of "do your own thing" in there, but this is the baseline definition when you see "Extinct"

a more apt analogy would be

I found a type of German horse carriage in an abandoned castle in Saxony that once existed in moderate numbers but until this moment no examples were known about.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: nckestrel on 07 August 2019, 09:15:08
Probably because I look at EXTINCT as meaning

NO LONGER IN PRODUCTION

not

THEY ALL SUDDENLY DISAPPEARED

Real World Example

The MODEL T Ford is no longer in production. Doesn't mean I can't find them out in the world, or machine replacement part for them

How many people taking that much time to keep a Model T in working order are willing to take them into combat?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 07 August 2019, 09:19:35
How many people taking that much time to keep a Model T in working order are willing to take them into combat?

I know we have this discussion all the time ;)

I just really, really, really wish the MUL/BT in general had a discriptor to come Between IN PRODUCTION and EXTINCT as I've said many times before, I just cannot picture DEC 31 3079 the forces of the IS have 100's if not 1000's of 'Mech XYZ-123 in their stables and then on JAN 1 3080 they all suddenly disappeared.

I'm pretty sure if I started looking I could find lots of real world miltitary examples of smaller nations still having Antiquated units.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 07 August 2019, 09:55:07
we'll never get that level of detail. the in production moniker is rather useless in a lot of cases - like the grasshopper and whitworth for two that haven't been produced since the 2700s, but still exist in numbers substantial enough to make it on lists for 400 years. which, by the by, never existed in thousands - a few hundred whitworths supplied the entire stock, including upgrades, into the 3070s. i doubt more than a handful of mechs outside of the Star League were produced in the thousands. extinct in 3050 means extinct by 3050 - sometime before the next era starts, they're all gone. it's not the mech rapture.

numbers are imaginary and math is fake
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No one should put any stock in the production numbers that have been printed, in any book, ever.
The writers certainly don't.
Production goes at the speed of plot.
source because i can't quote a locked thread (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=63696.msg1491209#msg1491209)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: nckestrel on 07 August 2019, 09:57:34
Since the MUL never says anybody has 100s to 1000s o anything, that is a co platelet false argument.

The MUL only does ~6+ In a faction (there are likely multiple of that unit in multiple command for that faction), no comment, and extinct.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 07 August 2019, 10:38:38
I just find funny how everytime the EXTINCT argument comes up and I say in my HEAD CANON I use my thought I always get the:

But that's not how the MUL looks at things.


But I say again...In MY games, that is how I view the EXTINCT availability. ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Scotty on 07 August 2019, 10:43:04
Why on Earth would you deliberately decide to interpret something as both 1) not what it actually means, which has been defined before and 2) Makes the entire MUL framework around it make less sense? ???

I don't get it.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 07 August 2019, 10:49:45
Why on Earth would you deliberately decide to interpret something as both 1) not what it actually means, which has been defined before and 2) Makes the entire MUL framework around it make less sense? ???

I don't get it.

i mean people can do whatever. i subscribe to pedantry on this particular topic because there has to be a set definition for baseline discussion and there has been, historically, a lot of misconceptions about what that definition is.

Probably because I look at EXTINCT as meaning

this doesn't explicitly connote headcanon my mostly literal brain. i would have kept my mouth shut if normal brain function were a strong suit of mine  :-X

Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: NeonKnight on 07 August 2019, 11:03:48
Why on Earth would you deliberately decide to interpret something as both 1) not what it actually means, which has been defined before and 2) Makes the entire MUL framework around it make less sense? ???

I don't get it.

Here's Why (Please forgive my crappy Creative Writing Skills :P):

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December 31, 3085, Portland, Fronq Reaches

Corporal Dan "NewbKiller" Colter piloted his Thorn THE-S (http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/3195/thorn-the-s) into the repair bay. He had just returned from patrol having drawn the short straw for the New Year's Eve schedule. Well, he thought to himself as he powered down the little mech, Looks like I got back in time that I won't miss the whole party, the countdown clock, sure, but still some time to socialize...maybe even give Mary a New Year's Eve Kiss!

He chuckled to himself as he started across the repair bay thinking of the attractive young Astrotech, his reverie interupted as his wrist chronometer beeped, signalling midnight, the start of the new year 3086. He looked at the watch as realization spread across his face.

DAMN, my Gloves! he thought, I left them in the cockpit! He loved them gloves. They were a gift from his mother two years past when he left home to join the forces on Portland.

Turning about to return to his Thorn, he stood in shock, his neurohelmet clattering to the ground as it slipped from his numb fingers.

HIS THORN WAS GONE! Wha-....what hapend to his 'MECH!?!?! It should be right THERE!!! He just parked it minutes ago!

His face blanched as all color drained in shock. he had no idea how he was going to explained to the Quartermaster let alone the C.O. how his mech suddenly disappeared.

And THAT is why in my games the inital few years of an EXTINCT avaialbility means they still exist as they are slowly removed for more realistic reasons ;)

The THORN THE-S is available to Draconis Combine and Periphery Forces during the Jihad (3068 -3085) but EXTINCT for EARLY REPUBLIC (3086 - 3100)

No matter how many people tell me: Whelp them's the rules!, I will always refer to the poorly written Narative above
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 07 August 2019, 11:15:45
repo man finds you no matter where you are
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: I am Belch II on 07 August 2019, 11:20:23
Is there any updates on when the releases from Gencon will be released??
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: kinwolf on 07 August 2019, 12:19:16
Anyone has a street date for TRO: Clan Invasion for FLGS?
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Fat Guy on 07 August 2019, 12:23:42
Is there any updates on when the releases from Gencon will be released??


There were only two Gen con releases: Kill Zone and Kell Hounds Ascendant.


You can get a dead tree copy of Kill Zone here: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/battletech-philip-a-lee/1132630635?ean=9781942487883
 (https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/battletech-philip-a-lee/1132630635?ean=9781942487883)
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Sartris on 07 August 2019, 12:36:04
Both are also PoD on Amazon
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Brigoon on 07 August 2019, 13:31:43
I know we have this discussion all the time ;)

I just really, really, really wish the MUL/BT in general had a discriptor to come Between IN PRODUCTION and EXTINCT as I've said many times before, I just cannot picture DEC 31 3079 the forces of the IS have 100's if not 1000's of 'Mech XYZ-123 in their stables and then on JAN 1 3080 they all suddenly disappeared.

I'm pretty sure if I started looking I could find lots of real world miltitary examples of smaller nations still having Antiquated units.

https://www.quora.com/What-militaries-still-use-WW2-era-tanks

Ask and the internet shale give. I'm amazed the Stuart is still in use, lots of T-34s still kicking around apparently. article is a good read. 
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: nckestrel on 07 August 2019, 14:48:50
No matter how many people tell me: Whelp them's the rules!, I will always refer to the poorly written Narative above

Can you stop with the straw man arguements?
1. I didn't say anything like "whelp them's the rules".
2. I don't care what you do in your game. I encourage you to make it your own and do what you want with your game.
3. Even for the MUL's guidelines for what we mean when we say x, we acknowledge their could be exceptions.

Stop trying to be a matyr.  Nobody is taking away your Thorns.  As somebody quoted me earlier, our only intention is that you be informed.  I don't like somebody coming up and saying "why didn't you tell me the Von Rohrs was extinct in 3052!"  If you see the MUL said extinct for the Thorn, and you want a Thorn, good for you.  It's your game. 

But by the same measure, stop trying to tell us the MUL what we mean when we say extinct.  We set our definition, and that's what it means on the MUL. We don't mean there can't be any at all, there must not be any of them in service and nobody could possibly build one.  We don't mean you can't have one.  We mean you should be aware that the majority of the Inner Sphere considers it gone.  (They can be wrong). 
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: LightGuard on 07 August 2019, 15:05:52
...

Anyways, knowing Kill Zone is Volume Seven of the BattleCorps Anthology, where can I get a copy of Volume Six?

I've asked this before, but I think it was another thread. I'd be happy to buy both Six and Seven, provided I can get Six at least digitally. :fine_print:
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bosefius on 07 August 2019, 15:15:14
...

Anyways, knowing Kill Zone is Volume Seven of the BattleCorps Anthology, where can I get a copy of Volume Six?

I've asked this before, but I think it was another thread. I'd be happy to buy both Six and Seven, provided I can get Six at least digitally. :fine_print:

It's being worked on to offer it digitally and as POD. We hope to have an update soon.
Title: Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
Post by: Bosefius on 07 August 2019, 15:16:09
Thread locked for size, and to give everyone a chance to cool off.