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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #120 on: 24 November 2018, 09:18:41 »
Guardiandashi, even allowing them to use Infantry Bay quarters would work, but that was errata'd out too.

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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #121 on: 25 November 2018, 09:29:00 »
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #122 on: 25 November 2018, 09:31:04 »
Guardiandashi, even allowing them to use Infantry Bay quarters would work, but that was errata'd out too.

Indeed, I think that everyone who is very into Naval or Aerospace has their own take on the MkVII. I know I do. But the rules have been futzed with so much, it's hard to pin down. It's actually worse than the mobile longtom revisions.
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #123 on: 25 November 2018, 13:29:06 »
the Seventh Kommando's dropship.  I can not remember were, but one of the books had them do a mission and then blast off planet in there own dropships. 

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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #124 on: 25 November 2018, 17:48:47 »
the Seventh Kommando's dropship.  I can not remember were, but one of the books had them do a mission and then blast off planet in there own dropships.

Per the Wolf Dragoon's SB the 7th Kommando had 5 Fury class dropships assigned to them. 

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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #125 on: 26 November 2018, 00:25:41 »
Per the Wolf Dragoon's SB the 7th Kommando had 5 Fury class dropships assigned to them.
At one point Wolf's Dragoons were mentioned to possess several Scout-class DropShips. That class is never mentioned anywhere else save the MUL. I think he meant these.
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #126 on: 26 November 2018, 12:59:21 »
Must been a typo. Makes more sense to me to have JumpShips for independent troops like the 7th Kommandos
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #127 on: 26 November 2018, 15:18:01 »
Must been a typo. Makes more sense to me to have JumpShips for independent troops like the 7th Kommandos
Not from the context. And like I wrote, the MUL does confirm the existence of a Scout class of DropShips.
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #128 on: 26 November 2018, 15:24:54 »
Not from the context. And like I wrote, the MUL does confirm the existence of a Scout class of DropShips.

Until somebody writes otherwise, and then the MUL will change to reflect whatever is written, or not, about it then.
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #129 on: 26 November 2018, 16:01:00 »
Well, the Scout DropShip is just how Malvina uses them....

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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #130 on: 29 November 2018, 16:35:51 »
At one point Wolf's Dragoons were mentioned to possess several Scout-class DropShips. That class is never mentioned anywhere else save the MUL. I think he meant these.

I think those are mentioned with the League-Class in one of the early GDL books as part of the Kuritan invasion force.

Also; we need more Drop ships.
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #131 on: 01 December 2018, 23:04:18 »
Got a reminder when I saw the thread today:

Jumping Atlas Mini.

Are there any canon variants that support it?
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #132 on: 01 December 2018, 23:08:15 »
the AS7-K3 jumps

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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #133 on: 01 December 2018, 23:14:12 »
Got a reminder when I saw the thread today:

Jumping Atlas Mini.

Are there any canon variants that support it?

•AS7-K3 A modification of the K2 built in 3083, the K3 removed the two Streak SRM-6 launchers and replaced them with three jump jets and a Streak SRM-4 launcher, giving the AS7-K3 incredible maneuverability.

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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #134 on: 01 December 2018, 23:23:50 »
Got a reminder when I saw the thread today:

Jumping Atlas Mini.

Are there any canon variants that support it?

I believe the mini in question featured a Jump Pack
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #135 on: 02 December 2018, 00:52:00 »
And it's definitely not an AS7-K3, due to retaining the Atlas's original pumpkin head and shoulders.
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #136 on: 02 December 2018, 01:27:13 »
How so?

Atlas-K3 is a modified K2, which is a Lyran mod of Kurita's K ( 1 ).

K4 is a Dark Age mech, which would have need of a Phoenix facelift, but a K ( 1 ) is just a Kurita XL version of the original classic D. K2 was a revamp of a Gauss and ER Large with 2 SSRM6's added a Guardian. K3 dropped the Streaks and added the jets instead.

Again, how so MLO4H?

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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #137 on: 02 December 2018, 01:39:32 »
Because the K2, 3, and 4 are the Dark Age Atlas, as shown in TRO 3085.  The Jumping Atlas mini is the classic AS7-D/AS7-K appearance.
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #138 on: 02 December 2018, 02:32:23 »
I don't think so...

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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #139 on: 02 December 2018, 11:20:09 »
The jumping Atlas is whichever variant you want it to be.

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« Reply #140 on: 02 December 2018, 11:21:45 »
Atlas:


Dark Age Atlas:


Jumping Atlas:


That's pretty obviously the old style Atlas, not the Dark Age style.
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #141 on: 02 December 2018, 12:42:00 »
An atlas with a jump pack feels like that scene in Jurassic park where the raptors figure out how to open doors

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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #142 on: 02 December 2018, 18:50:21 »
If it's not been mentioned: Sarna's article on the Look-Down Radar describes it as installed on a Clan "Spectre-class" reconnaissance plane. That reference is not found on the cited page of TacOps and I think it would be the only mention of a Clan conventional aircraft.

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« Reply #143 on: 02 December 2018, 19:40:37 »
I believe the spectre comes from the last book of the Jade Phoenix trilogy. Kael Pershaw was tooling around in one over Tukayyid.
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« Reply #144 on: 02 December 2018, 21:42:30 »
It's true. Last book of the Jade Phoenix trilogy does mentioned Pershaw was using spy plane. I forgot about it.

For some reason, i think i asked it on the old forums. I think Writers had said clans could have modded a Mosquito IX plane become Spectre used by the clans.

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« Reply #145 on: 04 December 2018, 10:03:27 »
•AS7-K3 A modification of the K2 built in 3083, the K3 removed the two Streak SRM-6 launchers and replaced them with three jump jets and a Streak SRM-4 launcher, giving the AS7-K3 incredible maneuverability.

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It's true. Last book of the Jade Phoenix trilogy does mentioned Pershaw was using spy plane. I forgot about it.

For some reason, i think i asked it on the old forums. I think Writers had said clans could have modded a Mosquito IX plane become Spectre used by the clans.

This is me going off something i remembered.

The Mosquito is definitely noted as being used by the Clans. I don't know about it being called the spectre though?
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #146 on: 04 December 2018, 11:58:25 »
Well, the Scout DropShip is just how Malvina uses them....

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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #147 on: 06 December 2018, 16:40:40 »
With the excitement for Golden Century, I've been inspired to share my personal list of those units and equipment which have been mentioned once or twice in some source somewhere, but never fully stated-out or given art. I hope someday all of these will appear in print.
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« Reply #148 on: 06 December 2018, 18:37:55 »
Combat vehicles in novel Decision at Thunder Rift.

HVWC (unspecified hovercraft weapon carrier, capable of carrying a range of support weapons including machine guns, missile launchers, lasers and PPCs)

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« Reply #149 on: 06 December 2018, 21:04:46 »
Combat vehicles in novel Decision at Thunder Rift. Wheeled PPC Carrier anyone? My personal take on it along with bunch of variants.

I had thought all the examples mentioned in DaTR were hover?

HVWC (unspecified hovercraft weapon carrier, capable of carrying a range of support weapons including machine guns, missile launchers, lasers and PPCs)

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/PPC_Heavy_Weapons_Carrier

And don't forget the Jeep either: http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Jeep.

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