BattleTech: Clan Invasion Kickstarter Discussion, Vol. 4, The Madness Begins

[Bosefius]

If you are referring to the Archer, you may want to ask Morgan Kell and Jamie Wolf.

I found it interesting that the two, arguably, most famous mercenary commanders both used Archers. Of the 3025 mechs available, even early on, it seems the Thunderbolt (ok, I'm biased), Crusader or even Marauder, would have been better choices.

[rebs]

It always made me wonder what kind of 'mech Wolf quallified in during his Trial of Position.

[Mendrugo]

Being a freeborn warrior, I wouldn't be surprised if he had to use SLDF-surplus equipment against a Trueborn in an Omni for his Trial.  If he qualified thusly in an Archer, I can see his attachment to the design.

[Liam's Ghost]

Being a freeborn warrior, I wouldn't be surprised if he had to use SLDF-surplus equipment against a Trueborn in an Omni for his Trial.  If he qualified thusly in an Archer, I can see his attachment to the design.

He did indeed pilot an Archer in his trial of position, according to Historical: Brush Wars. He later captured a Summoner to pilot, and I don't think its a coincidence that the Archer 2W looks an awful lot like someone wanted to put a Summoner B on an old Archer frame.

[Gus]

It always made me wonder what kind of 'mech Wolf quallified in during his Trial of Position.

According to his entry in Brush Wars, he piloted an Archer and defeated a Black Hawk.

[Church14]

Huh. I never took the command lance pack from the KS as something meant to be a cohesive unit. I took it as 4 mechs commonly used as a force commander’s mech.

It would not surprise me to see that a heavy lance’s commander is in the back with a marauder/archer, keeping an eye on where extra fire is needed.

Valkyries were supposed to be common command mechs for light units for the same reason.

The stinger seems the odd mech out. I never took it as commanding anything but trainees

[nckestrel]

The packs match the requirements for the formations (lances/stars/level iis) as used in Campaign Operations (and Alpha Strike).  You can use them any way you’d like, but they are intended to be able to be used, as is, with the formation rules.

[Weirdo]

The stinger seems the odd mech out. I never took it as commanding anything but trainees

You have inspired me. I now want to put together a bottom-tier unit composed mostly of MilitiaMechs and SecurityMechs, with the Commander in a Stinger due to its maneuverability, multipurpose weapons load, and military-grade comms.

[Colt Ward]

Ooo, fun idea . . . I suggest . . . the Payvand Hero Institute, the most decrepit of the Hero campuses, would be able to promote them having a 'mech training battalion.'  Stinger 6S to capitalize on speed, lots of Pacifiers, Inquisitors, and other trash . . .

[Sartris]

The stinger seems the odd mech out. I never took it as commanding anything but trainees

besides "get the classics in," yeah. i'd slot the ostscout there

You have inspired me. I now want to put together a bottom-tier unit composed mostly of MilitiaMechs and SecurityMechs, with the Commander in a Stinger due to its maneuverability, multipurpose weapons load, and military-grade comms.

i ran a one-off of anton's attack on the Allison Institute on new olympia where the player force was almost entirely stingers with some chameleons and commander mechs sprinkled in. wild game.

[Doom]

There's another potential mechanism at work to consider. It's possible that a battalion command lance, for example, is not a static formation, but simply includes the battalion commander, and the three company commanders. Not every command has dedicated command lances, and it's conceivable (esp. for mercenaries) that an ad hoc "formation" of the individual commanders is represented by this particular group of miniatures.

[Ghaz]

You have inspired me. I now want to put together a bottom-tier unit composed mostly of MilitiaMechs and SecurityMechs, with the Commander in a Stinger due to its maneuverability, multipurpose weapons load, and military-grade comms.

You could always replay one of Mercer Ravannion's infamous battles during the Fourth Succession War  :o

[Weirdo]

Nah, that's all military stuff. Too swanky.

[YingJanshi]

Looks like we might get the pledge manager this coming week...maybe...

[General308]

Looks like we might get the pledge manager this coming week...maybe...

Looks like it.  Unless the Full Kerensky's break it.

[Sartris]

If anything  can shatter our hopes and dreams, it’s an order that large

[mooonmagic]

*extremely jock jams voice* Let's get ready to rumble go broke!!

In all seriousness I am so excited 🎶

[Daryk]

The Full Kerensky's are definitely a good stress test, and there are few enough of them that they can be manually corrected if necessary.

[Sartris]

And also produce the least community angst if something breaks

[Insaniac99]

I personally would have advocated FKs, then Khans, then floodgates.

Simply because quite a few khans have talked about how they went khan and multiple pledges to get way more than FKs do for less and the group is still small enough to easily handle issues that 18 people might not find.

[Daryk]

I think it would be easy enough to plead the need for "more testing" after the Full Kerensky's before opening the floodgates.  The Khans are the next logical step.

[Ursus Maior]

I personally would have advocated FKs, then Khans, then floodgates.

If red flags are raised during the Full Kerenskys soft launch, the Khans might very well get to be wave two of the soft launch.

[Insaniac99]

If red flags are raised during the Full Kerenskys soft launch, the Khans might very well get to be wave two of the soft launch.

Agreed. Though I have spoken to a Full Kerensky that is getting multiple pledges, so I'm hopeful that he will be about as complex as a Khan

[Wolf72]

Knocks on giant plas-steel window installed on dam floodgates ... *waves*

[DarkISI]

Agreed. Though I have spoken to a Full Kerensky that is getting multiple pledges, so I'm hopeful that he will be about as complex as a Khan

I would assume: once you can go Full Kwrensky, money is no longer any kind of issue, anyway.

[Precentor Scorpio]

Can someone please re-post the spreadsheet which lists what every pledge level should receive, etc etc.

Or tell me what page it is on the vol 3 kickstarter discussion.

thank you

[Insaniac99]

I would assume: once you can go Full Kwrensky, money is no longer any kind of issue, anyway.

You'd be surprised.  I've spoken to 2-3 of Full Kerensky's that are extremely focused on the cost-effectiveness and that it's the only thing they need to buy to get everything.

[SteveRestless]

The packs match the requirements for the formations (lances/stars/level iis) as used in Campaign Operations (and Alpha Strike).  You can use them any way you’d like, but they are intended to be able to be used, as is, with the formation rules.

Are you telling me that there is someone out there that feels that this

Kodiak, Fire Falcon, Hellion, Howler, Pack Hunter

is an organic and likely force composition?  :P

[Weirdo]

Your answer is in the Star's name.

[Greatclub]

That's the stuff that was booted, and that people were most vocal about wanting back.

it didn't fit any definition, so yeah, ad-hoc. Personally, it's one I'm getting. Four good (Howler)-to-excellent clan lights and a budget-breaking assault that is very thematic for one faction.