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BattleTech Player Boards => Fan Art => Topic started by: marauder648 on 30 November 2018, 12:01:59
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Side scanning thermal images taken during a recon flight near Niles Grid ref 401/C/R Recommend further investigation.
(https://i.imgur.com/tAfwXkT.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5ECYeRf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/up5Ey4m.jpg)
WIP sketches drawn by the amazing Matt Plog.
Thoughts and comments are most welcome!
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Kratos looked like a superheavy to me at first. :)
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Nah its a 95 tonner. Tactically its a different machine to the Mars which is a grounded nose section of an assault dropship on tracks. The Kratos isn't as well armed as the Mars but its a big brick or armour, its an anvil. Most of its bulk is those hugely broad tracks which are meant to reduce ground pressure, the fighting compartments not as big as you'd think. It is heavily based on the Mars though, the Mars had 4 tracks and 4 sets of roadwheels, this has two much broader tracks, presumably with similar ground pressure of the four on the Mars (which would have been a nightmare to repair). The LRM's are the same kind of principle as the Mars too, rear mounted but firing over the front (rules wise they are front mounted, like the Mars)
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And to elaborate on this setting/AU a bit more.
New Weapon Developments.
Lightweight Gun System – The LGS was a join Horse/Coyote project to produce a lighter, smaller autocannon that consumed less resources and was easier to make and maintain. This light weapon could then be used in the place of heavier ultra or LB pattern weapons and allow for the use of various ammunition types that were also developed alongside the gun system.
The LGS was designed as a smoothbore weapon system and would fire a wide range of discarding sabot rounds. It also used a greatly reduced charge of propellant which reduced the stress on the weapons breech and barrel, allowing them to be made much lighter and smaller, reducing weight and bulk.
These changes did reduce the shell velocity and thus range but when an LGS-2 weighed a mere 3.5 tons compared to an ultra AC-2’s 5 tons the saving in weight was formidable.
Three different calibre’s of LGS were developed but these were never as popular as the more traditional ultra and LB pattern weapons despite the flexibility offered by the ammunition types. It is believed that because these weapons were first deployed on second line vehicles they were seen as inferior weapons fit for only Solhama personnel or Freeborn troops and many Clan Warriors snubbed them and outside of garrison forces in Clan Wolf, Coyote, Blood Spirit and Hells Horses, the LGS was very rarely seen.
(yes this is this universes Protomech autocannons and are identical in stats and performance)
Chemical Lasers
Although an ancient weapon system that hadn’t been used in centuries the Chemical laser did offer some advantages that merited them being investigated by Scientists from Clan Hells Horses and Clan Coyote. Running a powerful electric discharge through a highly concentrated mixture of oxygen and iodine produced a potent laser burst that could damage Mech armour. The intensity of the damage depended on how much chemicals were excited, and this did require the use of rather toxic chemicals (the Oxygen/Iodine mix was later replaced with a deuterium fluoride which was more stable than highly pressurised liquid oxygen). But, this only required an electric charge which could be powered by a high capacity battery to produce a lasing beam and produced negligible amounts of heat. There was no need for a fusion engine or any power converters, all that was needed was an electric current of sufficient power to start the lazing process and this could be provided by a capacitor on an ICE or Fuel cell engine.
Unfortunately the weapons themselves were rather bulky and no weight was saved, indeed, the large chemical laser weighed as much as a Spheroid large laser. And, due to their lower power output the weapons lacked the range and punch of Clan weapons, but instead had a similar hitting strength and beam focusing distance similar to the traditional standard lasers that had been in service for centuries amongst the House lords and SLDF beforehand.
The need for ‘ammunition’ now thankfully shrunk down to 75ml, 300 or 500ml ‘shells’ was another drawback and the loading system for these ‘shells’ took a while to develop as did the storage system and development of the firing system to start the lasing process, but, once these hurdles were overcome the Scientists began testing their Chemical lasers.
Like the LGS, the chemical laser was seen as a second line weapon and was put forwards for this role. The most complicated part of the whole system was the loading and venting system for the chemical ‘shells’ and they consumed far less resources than an ER or Pulse laser to make and, once crews were familiar with their operating procedures were simple to use. The only major tactical disadvantage to the Chemical laser is that it has a ‘charge up’ time as it takes a small amount of time for the chemicals to react before producing their energy which in turn forms the laser beam. This delay is only a quarter of a second, but it still requires more careful aim and target leading than one would usually have with typical energy weapons.
Battle armour weapons and systems.
As the Actaeon Assault Battle Armour was being developed, the requirement to be as flexible as possible meant that the Horse Scientists had to think outside the box and this needed the assistance of their allies in Clan Coyote who were eager to reap the benefits of any joint developments.
First, to carry a suitable amount of firepower a new form of mounting for the suits main weapon was required as otherwise almost any weapon system that was carried in the now traditional arm mount was simply too heavy and the only way to carry a heavier weapon than normal was to reduce the armour levels below those of the Gnome suit that was also in development, at which point the whole idea of a tough assault suit was invalidated by having thinner armour than a heavy unit.
To carry a heavy weapon, a power assisted and stabilised mounting was developed, this would plug into the suits power and draw power from there. Together with the battle armour’s usual servos and myomer assisted strength, a heavier weapon could be carried in a rifle like arrangement. And whilst the power drain reduced speed, the Actaeon was already slow and was designed more for building clearing purposes or defensive engagements, where its lack of speed would not be a problem.
This ‘detachable weapon pack’ saw some use on Elementals but was rather rare and only saw service on the Actaeon and later the Golem and Ironhold suits. Most Clans disliked the mobility penalties incurred by the mounting and it didn’t suit their modes of warfare.
Light and heavy calibre machine guns were also developed, the so called ‘light machine gun’ would see service on Mech’s and tanks across Clan space lacked the take down power of its heavier companions but made up for it with a blisteringly high rate of fire and a longer range. Conversely the heavy machine gun fired a much heavier round but to keep up its rate of fire, the propellant for it was reduced. This greatly reduced range some variant were more akin to rapid firing automatic grenade launchers, firing small explosive charges short distances that could butcher infantry squads.
The HMG, because of its limited range saw far less use in Clan service, but it was found in several defensive positions and on some vehicles that were used in counter insurgency engagements where heavy firepower at short range could end an ambush before it started.
The Horses and Coyote’s also looked into the old, but effective recoilless rifle and advances in ammunition and propellant was able to reduce the size of the weapon to a more practical length without it being so large and this didn’t adversely affect performance although back blast did remain an issue.
Whilst trying to develop the lightweight Varpulis battle armour and focusing on speed or maneuverability several small projects ballooned into new developments that did see widespread service in the Clans. The first was the Myomer Booster system, using several dedicated micro-batteries a Battlesuits wearer could increase the power flow into their suits myomer, allowing for greater strength and far higher ground speeds but this produced a significant thermal bloom and required Elementals to undergo specialist training to adapt to the extra speed as there was several serious and fatal injuries during testing. Despite this, the system was seen as quite successful and was used by several Clans in their own Battlesuits despite the dangers (or in some cases because of) associated with the system.
Attempts to mirror the Cloud Cobra’s Sylph Battle armour’s performance resulted in failure as the Cobra’s were deeply unwilling to share their design and this left the Horse and Coyote Scientists taking different approaches. One of the most successful and more widely deployed systems involved an enhanced array of jump jet thrusters and fuel bottles that would work with any normal jump jets to increase the range of the suits jump. This took some getting use to for many Elementals although the development of the Varpulis saw the Hellions Trial for the Myomer Booster and Jump Booster and win both schematics, leading to them introducing the Afreet which was also deployed by Clan Jade Falcon. But, the trade off offered by the mobility or speed of these systems meant less armour and weapon systems and most Clans preferred to rely on the Elemental battlesuits and this would make up 75% of all available Battle Armour suits in the Clan’s Tourman’s.
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Very nice. :thumbsup:
Is this some kind of a Battle armor standing besides the Ganesha APC?
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Indeed, the Ganesha has three exit hatches, one big double door at the rear, two side ones with the ramps (as the tracks in the way) and there's a big hatch on the roof that can open to allow an Elemental to leave via the roof with their jump jets of needs be. And as it can carry up to 15 Elementals in the back. There's a lot of shenanigans you could do with that many Elementals.
And yes that is one stood alongside it :)
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And yes that is one stood alongside it
I am not familiar with this design. Is this a new one?
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It will be :D
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Additional data coming in from Niles.
(https://i.imgur.com/QnmE7bQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nBUA2Zz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Y3F2VSh.jpg)
Done by the amazing Matt Plog and should be finished soon ish.
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More pretty vehicles for my little tankies >:D
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Do you plan a Hell Horses Mini TRO for all these new vehicles, battle armor and aerospace fighters or is this going to be a new section in the next Delranes Fighting Ships?
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Do you plan a Hell Horses Mini TRO for all these new vehicles, battle armor and aerospace fighters or is this going to be a new section in the next Delranes Fighting Ships?
Its going to be a Hells Horses focused TRO with some changes to the lore which forces the change the Horses tank...err...take even. But yes it will include a wide range of vehicles (and maybe a Mech or two), some BA designs, aerospace assets, DropShips, small craft and even a WarShip. And will be a combination of fluff and stats for these units so folks can use them in battles.
The setting is a Pre-REVIVAL one so it won't feature any out of the ordinary tech, but some tech from later periods will be brought forwards, namely Jump boosters for BA as well as Chemical lasers and Protomech Autocannons which will recive a name change but that's about all, oh and LMG's and HMGs which will pop up in a few places.
Its obviously a rather large project and it probably won't be ready until the end of the year.
But, something else is coming out rather soon :)
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I can't wait!
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Looks good
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Its obviously a rather large project and it probably won't be ready until the end of the year.
But, something else is coming out rather soon :)
The Dreadnought TRO? or the Aries Games Fan TRO?
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What's the dreadnought TRO?
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A huge fan project, thats going to involve a LOT of things, I know the chap working on it and I've seen...such wonders....
But its not going to be out for a while.
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(https://i.imgur.com/wxTVc1T.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/FhVH6LK.jpg)
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More recon data and observations from Niles.
Also could folks go here - https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=64251.0 download the book and lemme know what ya think in that thread. I've had not many comments about it (good or bad) and its a tad dishartening.
WIP images by the amazing Matt Plog. Thoughts and comments always welcome.
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Wow those are looking very good.
Is that an Ultra/20 on that hovercraft?
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Aye, its basically a slightly different SM1 with slightly different weapon loadouts in regards for its secondaries.
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Very nice marauder648!
Can't wait to see some design details. :thumbsup:
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(https://i.imgur.com/Ght7NWI.jpg)
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Precentor Martial these images are just quick data feeds from several Rasalhague worlds orbital nets or were partial recoveries of images from BattleROMs. Current data analysis is under way and we hope to have a report on your desk within a week.
Lemme know what ya think folks :)
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I think from now on I'm going to star equipping everyone with AMS. Your last batch of tanks and hovercraft have ALOT of Missile Launchers.
I also approve.
Also always good to see more Warships (Yes I know the argument about Mechs and Warships: move along :) )
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Wonderful pictures
I hope Matt Plog will be available to official projects for Catayst Games too! You keep him so busy! :D
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Don't worry I'm not taking up all his time :D And i'm glad ya folks approve!
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Are we looking at items from a future official TRO?
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They look great, I especially like the Dallas & Nergal. :thumbsup:
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Tis the Pallas :) And thankee :) Had to update the Deimos as I wasn't too sure about the faceplate and this is what Plog came back with.
(https://i.imgur.com/Z8vclfw.jpg)
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:thumbsup:
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Looking forward to these. :thumbsup:
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I like the DropShips in flight
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Looks awesome. This is all for that Horse-focused TRO you're working on?
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Yep :D And glad ya folks approve :)
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A lil teaser for you lovely folks.
(https://i.imgur.com/F3kPxlc.jpg)
A Pallas class transport shuttle.
(https://i.imgur.com/tYvW3xj.jpg)
A Tartar class DropShip begining breaking thrust to slow itself down prior to entering normal flight on approach to its target.
Both drawn by the amazing Matt Plog, and thoughts and comments are most welcome.
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:o :thumbsup:
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Very interesting DropShip. The first image suggests it's a modified Beta Fighter from Robotech. :o
Another nice one from Plog! :thumbsup:
Thanks for funding this marauder648!
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The Dropship is heavily inspired by the Colonial Marines craft from Aliens as well as the Halo universe's Pelican transport/dropship :) Plog called the DropShip
I think this thing came out the kind of beautiful ugly that I always love in BT stuff. Instead of going for bilateral balancing with massive twin rotating engines, the Tartar hedges it's bets with spread out control. Smaller vectorable engine units near the wing edges give appreciable control to the massive vehicle while fighting gravity. Larger semi-main units by the bridge, and the rearward main units doing the majority of the straight lifting, while not being quite as agile on their own.
--I don't know what it is about this thing, but as i was drawing it i kept thinking about the Caspian Sea Monster. The massive Russian WiGe. Ugly as hell, yet kinda beautiful:D
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Are you sure the Pallas is a shuttle? Looks a bit heavy for merely 200 tons. Other than that they both look amazing!
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A lot of the bulk towards the rear is a heat shielded cocoon for a vehicle to be carried in, it can carry a vehicle or mech up to 100 tons in weight. Most of the bulk's in the front, the tail is quite long and raised up slightly, making it look heavier than it is when its just a space where it can pick up its cargo.
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So two different ships? Same stats?
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Nope, the pod is detachable, basically it drops in with the tank under the back, lands for a few seconds, detaches the tank and takes off. She's basically a WW2 LST.
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Is that covered by existing rules or did you have to "extend"?
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Watch Report 041/1
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A pair of reports have arrived from Niles and Tamaron and I present them to you now. Thanks to REDACTED field observations and the reports from REDACTED we have data on several projects being worked on by the Horses and Coyotes. Attached are our initial theories on suspected performance curves, but additional data will be required and we suggest that REDACTED continue REDACTED investigations.
01 - Sighted on Tamaron testing ground 03. Unknown designation - Light Mech, possibly OmniMech. Investigation required
(https://i.imgur.com/EPRgq5g.jpg)
02 - Sighted at Tamaron Spaceport - Confirmed light Aerospace fighter - Mass - 35 tons.
(https://i.imgur.com/tnY46L7.jpg)
03 - Sighted on Niles - Mass indicates total weight between 60 - 70 tons. Designation unknown. Investigation required.
(https://i.imgur.com/QpFgrpc.jpg)
Drawn by the amazing Matt Plog, thoughts always welcome!
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Nice sliding action on that light 'Mech.
Cute fighter, lots of engine?
The Thunderhound, is it an Urban combat unit?
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The fighter's fast but not uber fast and nope the Thunder Hound's a standard combat unit.
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A WIP of a 'lineup' of the Hell's Horses Battle Armour in service during my next project (and basically an AU) at the time of Operation REVIVAL.
From left to right
Deimos light battle armour
Elemental Battle Armour
Alastor Heavy Battle Armour (IS designation 'Gnome')
NYI - Alecto Assault Battle Armour
Drawn by Harri Kallio who said that the biggest challenge thus far was the Gnome and Elemental suits.
It's the Golem and basic Elemental that give me trouble. As their width and length ratios are borked. It's not even the fact that the wearers can get 8 feet 2 inches, it's the fact that these two armor pieces have groin guards and legs set up in a way that either the wearers pelvis is shaped like an upside down U, or they're so big that the armor is actually paper thin and they're actually squatting inside the suits
(https://i.imgur.com/qsdfKUm.jpg)
As always, thoughts/comments are most welcome!
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Yes proportions have always been a difficult part with BA design.
So the sketch is very well done.
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Aye its clever what he did too drawing a character and then fitting the armour around them so the height is consistent etc. The bigger Alecto is a suit that's more akin to the Kanazuchi and is sat in rather than worn (can't get my head round anyone walking around in a 2-ton suit.
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Aye it's clever what he did too drawing a character and then fitting the armor around them so the height is consistent etc. The bigger Alecto is a suit that's more akin to the Kanazuchi and is sat in rather than worn (can't get my head around anyone walking around in a 2-ton suit.
Most larger suits use a cockpit, but IS with their Sloth were the first - looks like the guy is sitting like a formula 1 driver.
For the Fenris and Rottweiler, it looks as if the poor guy is forced to run on his arms (legs might be stiff in the body).
Shedu and Nephilim are cockpit builds obviously.
But this work is pretty cool
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I think with the Fenris and Rottie the driver is basically hunched forwards like they are riding a Formula 1 motorbike. In my non-cannonical Bjorn I had the Pilot of the suit sitting in the rear of the suit with his legs forwards towards the head, and the pilot of the quad suit sat in a really reclined seat.
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Whilst not a bit of art, I do have a lil update on the Hell's Horses project i've been working on. Good news too! The text side of things is all done and proofread. Coming in at 47,439 words in total. The big part is now waiting for bits of art and slots to open up to get the last groups of drawings done. And then put it all together in a downloadable PDF for folks to read and enjoy. With any luck that will be done by December :)
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Whilst not a bit of art, I do have a lil update on the Hell's Horses project i've been working on. Good news too! The text side of things is all done and proofread. Coming in at 47,439 words in total. The big part is now waiting for bits of art and slots to open up to get the last groups of drawings done. And then put it all together in a downloadable PDF for folks to read and enjoy. With any luck that will be done by December :)
:thumbsup: 8)
I have been wondering about that, good to hear this, looking forward to the end result.
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I think with the Fenris and Rottie the driver is basically hunched forwards like they are riding a Formula 1 motorbike.
To nitpick a thread with loads of excellent designs, it is Moto GP, not formula 1. Formula 1 is for cars only. it is talking about the UEFA Champions League of American football :)
Really love the BA designs. This problem is common in fantasy SciFi. Look at Warhammer 40k for the same exact problem, for example.
Cheers,
Xavi
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Clan Hell’s Horses always makes the most use of infantry forces in the Clans and thanks to the Zhukov reforms this would not diminish. Specialised infantry forces like the light Cavalry Point’s and their HV-400 ‘Scarab’ personal hovercraft were the eyes and ears of some Clusters. The Horses also have the largest number of Elementals in service or in secondary formations and make extensive use of them as heavy jump infantry or heavy foot infantry squads. These assault units firepower was augmented with the introduction of the X-99 and GL-35 automatic grenade launcher and were equipped with the best personal armour that the Horses could provide. Even the ad-hoc Solhama Infantry Points were quite lavishly equipped with weapons and tended to be far better trained than typical Clan infantry forces.
Whereas most Clans used Solhama troops as their infantry in often near suicidal roles or as little more than military police to keep the populace of conquered worlds in check, the Hell’s Horses deployed their infantry with specific roles and duties in mind. Often they would have their own transport pool of either locally manufactured trucks or Polemos and Svantovit APCs as well as retrofitted Indra’s although the Indra had mainly been relegated to convoy protection duties and far less common in front line duties.
Infantry forces also had two levels of protection or three if one was an Elemental. The standard BDU (Battle Dress Uniform) was hard wearing, water and tear resistant whilst also being lightweight and quite cool to wear. Reinforced padding on the knees and elbows made firing from prone positions more comfortable and didn’t hinder movement. This was the standard field dress for infantry and it could be augmented with Stage II protection.
Stage II protection could be added to the standard BDU and comprised of reinforced external plastic polymer padding for the knees, shins, elbows, and shoulders. A lightweight flak vest with front and rear protection, as well as webbing for magazines, medical patches, or painkillers, was easily equal to those that equipped Inner Sphere forces but tended to be lighter thanks to the advanced hardened plastics used. Stage II protection also used an easily replaceable spray on plastic polymer that would dry into camouflage patterns. This meant that instead of having to use different clothing for different climates, all you had to do was apply a different ‘spray on camouflage’. Without the covering applied the body armour looks pitted with many ‘holes’. These help reduce weight without affecting the protection offered and help with the breathability of the armour. Making it more comfortable to wear.
Stage III protection was only for Elementals in Assault Infantry Stars and was the best protection possible outside of Battle Armour. Going further than the Stage II, the Stage III armour incorporates full protection for the arms and legs and chest whilst servo’s in the armours arms and legs help take the weight without encumbering its wearer and allows them to use heavy weapons like the Mauser IIC or X-99 without tiring. The Stage III armour also incorporates the Hell’s Horses full face helm that is the hallmark of their infantry forces. Like the standard body armour the Phase III armour can be camouflaged with the ‘camo in a can’ plastic polymers used on the Stage II armour. Without this the suit’s ‘diamond’ like structure can be more easily seen.
During Operation REVIVAL the Hell’s Horses would use conventional Infantry in offensive and defensive roles and their Infantry Star’s would fight with honour on Tukkayid and, despite suffering atrocious casualties they mauled ComGuard infantry formations and caused more casualties than they suffered.
In the images below are the examples of this type of armour, in its most basic and 'stripped down' form. Elemental Thomas has yet to don the shoulder or thigh guards of his Stage III armour. But it does give a good view of the armour without its camoflage applied. He can also be seen wearing a Mark IV 'Armet' type helm. These helmets, based on SLDF technology can give a wearer a 270 field of view as well as having low light and infrared vision options. These The Mark IV is not as popular as the Mark V 'Sallet' type helm which is lighter and somewhat less cumbersome.
Warrior Zane is wearing the standard BDU whilst Warrior Riz is wearing the Stage II armour although he has not yet attached his shoulder guards. Again it shows the underlying armour as well as the hook up points for things like ammunition pouches and other equipment.
Drawn by the rather wonderful - https://www.deviantart.com/bobgreyvenstein who went out of his comfort zone in this commission as he tends to draw high and low fantasy stuff and that probably shows in the picture. But, as always, thoughts and comments are most welcome!
(https://i.imgur.com/R5ntMH3.jpg)
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Holy...
I hate you. Fantastic looking project, 648!
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Thank you Red Pins :D Glad you like!
(https://i.imgur.com/DKdNPfn.jpg)
*quietly head canons that the Alecto makes sounds like the baddie robot from Robocop II when it walks and moves.*
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Man, that infantry art is gorgeous. I am 100% putting that image in my headcanon.
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Man, that infantry art is gorgeous. I am 100% putting that image in my headcanon.
Thank you :D I'm glad ya like 'em :)
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Man I love that Deimos, this is how you want to use your infantry, maximum field of fire for minimal exposure.
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Man I love that Deimos, this is how you want to use your infantry, maximum field of fire for minimal exposure.
Huh, I never thought of it like that :D The Alecto's a big assault suit, its a brick with guns but having the weapons up that high does make a lot of sense!
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Finally had time to check my DA account and saw Plogg's new art and hoped it was your stuff Marauder. This looks really cool!
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:D Thank you my friend :) I'm glad ya like :D
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So glad you are still at it. I've taken a bit of a hiatus from my Fanfic. I know it's slow in coming on my end. I'm just now about to start writing it again. I had to write a bit if Doctrine for the US Army Sniper's so that's what kept me busy. Time to jump back in and finish my promised SpecOps story for the Hegemony in Exile. I continue to love all you and everyone here does.
Keep it up Marauder.
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Thank you Kasaga :) I'm glad you like 'em and yeah doctrinal stuff's a bit fun to write, been doing that with the Hell's Horses project. Any pics you like in particular or caught ya eye?
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Thank you Kasaga :) I'm glad you like 'em and yeah doctrinal stuff's a bit fun to write, been doing that with the Hell's Horses project. Any pics you like in particular or caught ya eye?
Yes all of them for the most part.
And BTech doctrine is cool. Real Army doctrine is dry and boring lol.
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My Khan
The latest reports are in, both these units appear to be undergoing testing prior to entering full time production. Clan Coyote and Clan Cloud Cobra are starting up new production lines and, considering their support and assistance in these designs, we must now assume that both designs will enter service soon with at least three rival Clans and soon. Data on performance to follow.
(https://i.imgur.com/r4JhvSc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lJ6xxUP.jpg)
Drawn by the amazing Matt Plog, and as always, thoughts and comments are most welcome!
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That is truly amazing art. I miss when CGL produced TROs more often stuff.
Anyways, i take it the fighter seems to be a light fighter, and Mech appears either be a light mech or a protomech. I'd wager the former.
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That is truly amazing art. I miss when CGL produced TROs more often stuff.
Anyways, i take it the fighter seems to be a light fighter, and Mech appears either be a light mech or a protomech. I'd wager the former.
Thankee and someone's been reading my notes :p
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I just look at the pretty pictures! :D
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I love the fighter. :smitten:
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Why does the head of that Proto make me think of a certain Chameleon from Mega Man X???
If deliberate, that's awesome.
If that was unintentional, that's even more awesome.
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Its not a Proto, its a 35 tonner :D And it wasn't deliberate, the creature its named after we decided is a Spiny lizard. IN SPAAAAAAAACE so its quite unintentional :D
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My Khan.
This Mech was sighted on Tamaron and is belived to be part of the shared production run between the Coyotes and Horses. Current performance and statistics are attached to this transmission.
Designation - Thunderhound.
Mass - 65 Tons
Maximum Speed - 96kph
Armament - See attached data file.
(https://i.imgur.com/KoxDMNl.jpg)
Drawn by the amazing Matt Plog and as always, thoughts/comments most welcome!
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Beautiful!
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Plog really likes those rear legs, right? :)
Great design. PPC, 5 ML (or 3 in the arm and 2 LL in the chest?), SRM6. I could use one of those.
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Plog really likes those rear legs, right? :)
Great design. PPC, 5 ML (or 3 in the arm and 2 LL in the chest?), SRM6. I could use one of those.
The design decision was mine and is based on this things progenitor and inspiration :)
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The design decision was mine and is based on this things progenitor and inspiration :)
The face makes me think of a Sphinx.
Ruger
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Oh man love it. Kind of reminds me of the WoB Celestials.
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Its design is inspired by a much, much older machine that saw extensive service with the SLDF.
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It almost looks like if a Guillotine joined Crossfit.
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(https://i.imgur.com/vlhr9Xy.png)
Deimos, Elemental, Gnome and Alecto Battle armour drawn by the amazing Harri Kallio.
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That is some fine art! :thumbsup: 8)
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Stats on the light and assault please
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Stats on the light and assault please
In the future :) but I will tell you their armament and movement
Deimos - 1/4 Light Machine gun, 2 x AP mounts, 2 x cutting torches, extended life support A sub variant, the Phobos exists which looses the life support, AP mounts and torches for enhanced sensors.
Alecto 1/0 - ER Medium laser, 2 x LMG, 2 x AP mounts. A weapon variant exists replacing the ER Medium with a Medium pulse laser.
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Awesome thanks
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WOW!
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WOW!
I am also asking for a thumbs up button.
Amazing stuff!
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Slowly but surely getting there.
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Fan PDF? Great, but why only focus on Zhukov Heavy Tanks?? (J/k)
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Fan PDF? Great, but why only focus on Zhukov Heavy Tanks?? (J/k)
*whaps with rolled up news paper*
And yes, it will be a Fan PDF. Mostly waiting on art now as everything else is pretty much done.
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Well that cover art really set a new standard. 8) :thumbsup:
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We need to talk, marauder.
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Nice!
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Is plog still making canon art for battletech? You get more use out of him than CGL does!
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Is plog still making canon art for battletech? You get more use out of him than CGL does!
Heh oddly enough, my fan project is small change to the one he's working on for a friend of mine :p I've got 12 more pics and then i'm done but Mr Plog's taking a break at moment so any art will be delayed and this book probably won't be ready before 2020 but I'm no worried :)
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Healing?? What happened? :o
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What happened? :o
He's taking a break is all.
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Oh good... I was worried it was something like what happened to Rich Burlew a few years ago where he had a serious hand injury that impeded his ability to draw.
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Great project. Props for keeping it going/funded.
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Breaking the Star
Khan Darwin Lassenerra kept his face impassive as the Merchant Factor droned on, listing the damage done, predicted shortfalls, supply levels of ammunition and parts. It was, in short, a disaster. Tokasha had fallen, and then the Bears, enraged at the death of their beloved Khan, had followed up with an assault on the Horses’ Niles factory barely a week later. While that Trial had been successful, the fighting had ‘accidentally’ spilled over into the factory complex itself, resulting in heavy damage as the two sides fought without regard for quarter or mercy for the better part of two days, until mutual exhaustion had separated them, and the Bears had finally fallen back.
“So, in short, my Khan, we are down to twenty-five percent production capability for 'Mechs and their parts. With salvage from Niles, we should be able to rebuild Alpha Galaxy to its nominal strength. Beyond that, any plans for expansion in the future will have to be severely reduced and, even though it pains me to say this, we strongly suggest that future military operations be curtailed. Replacing losses is going to be hard. We estimate eight months before Niles is fully operational again and this will only bring us up to forty percent of our previous production levels. This will allow us to sustain production for any losses sustained and unless we are involved in battles on the scale of Niles or Tokasha, we should be able to produce enough 'Mechs to not only sustain current loss projections but exceed them and start rebuilding.”
“And how long do you believe this will take? And please, be honest, we must be honest with ourselves in this time of crisis.”
The Merchant Factor glanced at the Clan’s Chief Scientist who sat to his right and she nodded slightly. “The damage to the Niles facility is extensive. If the fighting there was accidental, the Bears knew where to hit. It will be at least eighteen months before we can begin to match our previous loss and repair rates. To build a new facility to match those we lost, five years, and this is assuming a steady supply chain and no other Clan declaring a Trial for our facilities.”
There were gasps and muttering from the people assembled in the room. At least five years of ‘marking time’ before any major rebuilding could be done: it was unthinkable. If other Clans learned of their weakness, the Horses could expect a flurry of Trials that would bleed their touman dry, opening them up to the threat of Absorption.
Khan Darwin held up a hand, his face set, betraying none of the concern he felt.
“Silence! We need answers, not anger. We cannot let our passions dictate our actions, not now. So…solutions?”
“We should charge the Bears with wantonly attacking our factory during the Trial on Niles. They deliberately attacked the facility and caused excessive damage in a direct attack.”
“We have no evidence of that. They said our forces pulled them into the factory and the BattleROMs from our 'Mechs and those we have salvaged from the Bears corroborate both our point of view and theirs. They could declare a Trial of Refusal against us.” What was left unsaid was that a Trial of Refusal of such a charge could escalate until the Horses could not win. The Khan watched his two most senior Galaxy Commanders argue their points, but he saw only ruin in either approach.
“Neg, we need to rebuild. If the other Clans know of our current state, then we will face Trial after Trial and it will lock us into a degenerative spiral that we might never recover from. And I will not see our Clan be Absorbed. That is not our future. SaKhan Yana Fletcher, your thoughts?”
The younger man gathered his thoughts. He’d gotten the reputation of being quite radical and one who refused to let the Horses abandon their traditional combined arms approach.
“We cannot build enough 'Mechs and we must devote our resources to rebuilding, so our ability to trade for them will be limited. So, we take the obvious step: more vehicles.”
“More? We had begun winding down vehicle production and..”
“Now we need them more than ever. We simply cannot sit around for five years in our current state. We need equipment and we need it now. Tanks consume fewer resources and are easier to run. Correct, Chief Scientist?”
She looked up and nodded “Aff, SaKhan, even a hundred-ton tank would use the resources of a heavy OmniMech. And while Galaxy Commander Vincent Anu is correct, we had begun winding down vehicle production due to the success of the Tokasha works, it would be a simple task to reactivate our vehicle facilities and to restore them to production.”
Fletcher smiled “So we can produce our own equipment again: will this negatively affect our rebuilding efforts?”
“We might have to divert some resources, but only in the short term; in the long term it might impose a few months delay in upgrading the Niles Industriplex, but these facilities are secure and can be brought online in a matter of weeks.”
“But you said yourself that most of our current vehicles are of little use outside of garrison work, quiaff?” Galaxy Commander Tina Neely said, meeting Fletcher’s eyes.
“Aff. But in the short term, they will suffice; that said, new vehicles based on current and older marks could be developed and put into production.”
“And who will help us with this?”
“The Coyotes. Scientists speak loudly in their halls and would listen to us. We have good relations with them. So, we trade our designs for their assistance. We offer to share the designs with them freely, in return for trade concessions to help us build facilities needed to produce any new vehicles. We have the manpower. Our sibkos are still on schedule and we risk having hundreds of trained warriors sitting around waiting for 'Mechs. So, let us give them tanks. We alter our training to include a major focus on vehicle combat: the teamwork we emphasise will help gel the crews together and should not adversely affect unit cohesion.”
“A big ask…some may well refuse.”
“Then they will have to fight for what they want. And rise or fall on their own merits. But, my Khan, my brothers and sisters, we cannot have any wild colts trying to ‘show us the way’. The Herd will have to move as one if we are to survive the coming years.”
Backed by the Khan and with the consent of the Galaxy Commander’s, saKhan Yana Fletcher’s Project Zhukov was approved and within days the Horses and Coyotes were speaking as the Technician caste went to work on reactivating the facilities that had been put into standby mode. It was estimated that it would take six months to crank up production and then the first new vehicles were expected to be undergoing testing and be pressed into production. All the Horses had to do was survive for eight months. And keep as low a profile as possible. With the Bears spent from the great battles at Niles and Tokasha, one threat withdrew to lick its wounds, but other Clans could smell blood in the water and started to circle.
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What year is this set? Golden Century?
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What year is this set? Golden Century?
Yep, 2921, shortly after the battle of Tokasha, thats when the changes start.
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Very nice marauder648!
Would contracting their forces to other Clans help? The Horses could become the mercenary Clan if so. Diamond Shark involvement there would be neat.
Perhaps dealing with other desperate Clans like Burrock would be another side affect?
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Great writing, it really pulled me in.
Just one minor note:
even a hundred-ton tank would use the resources of a heavy OmniMech
Did you mean would not?
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Great writing, it really pulled me in.
Just one minor note:
Did you mean would not?
Ooh well spotted!
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From: REDACTED
To: Command.
Sir,
I am sorry this report has taken so long to get updated, it seems that the Horses Watch is quite competent and communications were delayed to avoid risk of detection. But, we have not let this dissuade us and have managed to insert data recorders into Niles Test Facility 03 and this is the latest low resolution images we have obtained.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZOkwnMj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/12fEaDq.jpg)
Further updates to follow.
X
(and as always, thoughts and comments are most welcome!)
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The VTOL looks like a BT version of a Hind, so it harrasses at range and then swoops in to finish the enemy with SRM-6s?
The other looks like an Urbantank, does it carry infantry also?
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Very nice!
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The Horses Watch must have been horsing around letting these reports updates slide by the wayside.
Love the wheeled tank!
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both sketches look great, always liked a good vtol in BT
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Time for me to get "BACK TO WORK!" :drool:
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My Khan,
Ongoing testing has proven successful and once the issue with the final drive train is resolved production can begin immediately.
(https://i.imgur.com/DRvlyzr.jpg)
We are still having ongoing issues with electronic systems integration with this vehicle, the chassis and weapons systems perform well and Scientist Edward assures us that the debugging of the electronics will be completed within the next few weeks.
(https://i.imgur.com/JqhwH9X.jpg)
We also have very positive feedback from flight testing, the adjustments to the controls surfaces have eliminated the unexpected tail flutter and stability issues at high altitude.
(https://i.imgur.com/Zf7jiiT.jpg)
And as always thoughts/comments are most welcome!
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That is one mean engineering vehicle. :thumbsup:
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Indeed, but I think the gun barrel is a little long for a digging arm with that many degrees of freedom. It looks like it could interfere.
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That is one beautiful Omni (?) Fighter...
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I think so (judging by the size of the cockpit), but if those are supposed to be autocannons in the nose, I question the utility of the vents near the muzzle. They would be unpredictable thrust vectors when firing...
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That fighter is amazing looking. At the risk of losing friends I think it'd make a snazzy LAM pretty easily.
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That wheeled scout tank reminded me of a modernised version of the infamous HNT-3R Hunter Assault Tank! Nice.
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That is one mean engineering vehicle. :thumbsup:
where's a like button when you need one?
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Fighter looks awesome!
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(https://i.imgur.com/6aNnKaK.jpg)
The SaKhan of Clan Snow Raven looked at the somewhat fuzzy image on the Noteputer on his desk before looking up at the Watch agent stood at attention before him.
"Well...now we know what the Horses wanted those Excalibur's for and were willing to trade us for those we had in storage...how many do you believe they have obtained?"
"Around fifty SaKhan, from us and other Clans as well as reactivating the bare handful they had in their own Caches."
"Well they are only vehicle and troop carriers for the most part, they do not challenge our naval supremacy but we will keep an eye on them none the less. Thank you for bringing this to my attention, it will be noted on your record."
Thoughts on the DS's looks are most welcome :)
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I'm sorry...
But Horses + Combined Arms Dropships = A whole lotta trouble
Considering Excaliburs can carry a Binary or even a Trinary of Mechs, plus a equal amount of Quadvees (as Vehicles) easily enough. Granted the Mechs can't be hot dropped, but I would imagine a discrete screening force can...
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Ahh but here the Raven's are looking at the small picture, only the one that bothers them. Yes they are bad if they can land. Against the Raven's they'd not be allowed to land as the two Clans are very different in terms of fighting strength. The Raven's main focus is WarShips and aerospace assets. The Horses have among the smalllest of navies and don't have much of an aerospace arm. Could be trouble for other Clans, but not the Ravens. They hope :p
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Nice solid DS, are those square doors under the nose for Hull Defense?
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(https://i.imgur.com/6aNnKaK.jpg)
The SaKhan of Clan Snow Raven looked at the somewhat fuzzy image on the Noteputer on his desk before looking up at the Watch agent stood at attention before him.
"Well...now we know what the Horses wanted those Excalibur's for and were willing to trade us for those we had in storage...how many do you believe they have obtained?"
"Around fifty SaKhan, from us and other Clans as well as reactivating the bare handful they had in their own Caches."
"Well they are only vehicle and troop carriers for the most part, they do not challenge our naval supremacy but we will keep an eye on them none the less. Thank you for bringing this to my attention, it will be noted on your record."
Thoughts on the DS's looks are most welcome :)
I love this! Way overdue for the Horses!
And I like the way you had the landing gear done too.
When will we see full stats for this thing?
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There will be a full technical readout posted once the final bits of finished art are complete.
Have patients my friend!
>:D
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For the engineering vee I have to think of another task it shall do: Mech-backscratching.
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There will be a full technical readout posted once the final bits of finished art are complete.
Have patients my friend!
>:D
Properly alot sooner than us getting a canon Technical Readout.
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(https://i.imgur.com/dlLHih9.jpg)
Precentor, this is a BattleROM obtained from the wreckage of a Commando belonging to REDACTED that was recovered on REDACTED. The Mech was in bad shape after being hit by energy weapons but the gun camera's have proven to be most useful. REDACTED sent this via REDACTED and although the image quality was poor it does show an unknown DropShip belonging to Clan Hell's Horses deploying infantry and vehicles during a low run over REDACTED main space port in a bold direct attack that crippled the REDACTED command and control when their Commanding officer was killed.
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Looks like the Horses got the drop on them. :-X
Looking forward to seeing finish product, marauder!
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Man that is a great action scene :thumbsup:
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(https://i.imgur.com/3AGFgUT.jpg)
Precentor, an addendum to my latest report, this comes from Dell where the Hell's Horses clashed with Lyran forces to wrest the world from them. As you know the Horses are quite unlike the other Clans thanks to their extensive use of vehicles. Our agents have tried diplomacy as per standing orders but the Horses are very standoffish with our Adepts and seem quite uninterested in our organisation. This vehicle was seen on the streets of Cosmopolis replacing bridges that had been felled during the fighting, initial observations have it based on the same hull as the engineering vehicle.
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This is awesome!
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Good news everyone! The PDF is coming along amazingly well thanks to absoultely superb work by Mr Willis here. Save some editing and the odd addition and change, its a matter of waiting for art which is coming along nicely thanks to Mr Plog's amazing efforts. And with any luck, we're looking at it being done in a matter of weeks.
To tease you a lil bit, have the Haephestus Combat Engineering Vehicle. And re the gun being too long and getting in the way, it telescopes back somewhat into the breech mechanism before rotating back and folding as a stow and go. The gun's not really there to fight things, its there to demolish obstacles with HE shells.
(https://i.imgur.com/h71qCcP.jpg)
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Cool, glad to hear you (and Plog) thought of that! :thumbsup:
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a rotating folding autocannon - you guys really want to hurt me don't you?
Wouldn't a gun-mortar would have been the better option - I know there is no gun-mortar in BT.... although the Demolishers ACs clearly want to be DickeBerta GunMortars.
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a rotating folding autocannon - you guys really want to hurt me don't you?
Wouldn't a gun-mortar would have been the better option - I know there is no gun-mortar in BT.... although the Demolishers ACs clearly want to be DickeBerta GunMortars.
We hurt you because we love you :D
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a rotating folding autocannon - you guys really want to hurt me don't you?
Wouldn't a gun-mortar would have been the better option - I know there is no gun-mortar in BT.... although the Demolishers ACs clearly want to be DickeBerta GunMortars.
It’s okay it’s the future: they developed the Whatsit-Thingy Device to do exactly just that!
Also AWESOME!
That is all.
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Well if the cannon's belt fed (which it is) it disengages the ammo feed, the barrel retracts slightly and then it flips back. Its not elegant (or really workable) but its how I see it working in my head :D
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a rotating folding autocannon - you guys really want to hurt me don't you?
Wouldn't a gun-mortar would have been the better option - I know there is no gun-mortar in BT.... although the Demolishers ACs clearly want to be DickeBerta GunMortars.
That or a howitzer. But the howitzers are heavy and BT gun-mortars don't exist canonically.
I wrote up concepts for a bunch of mortars a while ago, including gun-mortars. I wonder if I still have those...
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Nice stuff marauder648!
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Beautiful artwork! How close to the artwork of the engineering vehicle from TRO 3025 is this? I've always had difficulty picturing what it would look like in a mini.
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Beautiful artwork! How close to the artwork of the engineering vehicle from TRO 3025 is this? I've always had difficulty picturing what it would look like in a mini.
This is more akin to a modern combat engineering vehicle, rather than the weird CAT vehicle thing - https://cfw.sarna.net/wiki/images/3/36/Engineering_Vehicle.jpg?timestamp=20080208070633 of TRO-3039
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Wow! That is amazing. Such a magnificent art.
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Well if the cannon's belt fed (which it is) it disengages the ammo feed, the barrel retracts slightly and then it flips back. Its not elegant (or really workable) but its how I see it working in my head :D
Actually; you appear to have the inboard-width in the turret ring to internally-stow that gun by only keeping it at a slight angle. This is pretty doable compared to how shipboard ammo strike-down systems work.
Hell; many older fieldguns had retracting and dis-mounting barrels for transport in the 30s.
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Wow! That is amazing. Such a magnificent art.
Thank you, Matt Plog as always knocks it out the ballpark!
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(https://i.imgur.com/zQ4Lzwj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nOtxZej.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mx44sc7.jpg)
A small arm, a medium arm and a sure as hell not small arm for use by Infantry forces within the Hell's Horses. There's fluff for 'em but they are not statted out.
By the amazing Matt Plog.
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Sktch new artist?
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I guess shorthand for Sketch. And no, tis Mr Plog :)
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Is one of those supposed to be the "Heavy Auto Grenade Launcher" that theoretically fires Class D ordnance? ???
Because really, in the clans, you need no other support weapon. 1.93 damage with a 1E crew rating (and 1/2/3 range) is about the best you can do. Also, any BA with Armored Gloves (vice Manipulators) can use them for free...
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I'm going to speculate that the HAR-201 is "Heavy Assault Rifle", the AGL-25/35 is either "Auto Grenade Launcher" or "Advanced Grenade Launcher", and HG is...
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I'm going to speculate that the HAR-201 is "Heavy Assault Rifle", the AGL-25/35 is either "Auto Grenade Launcher" or "Advanced Grenade Launcher", and HG is...
Someone's been reading my notes :D Very very close! :D But...you should see what they are hopefully within a few weeks :)
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Nice, so far, but:
I know that the FG-42 was a cool weapon - far far to early for its time - and side magazines are sexy. We all knew that.... but boy not at this position.
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Don't worry, the AGL-25/35 isn't a high ROF weapon and its fairly low recoil ish. Unless you're a normal human and you pick up the AGL-35 which is made for non BA Elementals. Then you might be stinging after firing.
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The recoil is not the problem, that the magazine is right in the place that should be consumed by your face or throat when aiming.
(unless you are left-handed but that means - changing mag is a pain. ;)
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The recoil is not the problem, that the magazine is right in the place that should be consumed by your face or throat when aiming.
(unless you are left-handed but that means - changing mag is a pain. ;)
Good point, but we had to change something to make it look a lot less like the refernce material and the side mounted mag (which can be rotated over to the other side) was the best option really :D
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Good point, but we had to change something to make it look a lot less like the refernce material and the side mounted mag (which can be rotated over to the other side) was the best option really :D
rotating... why not simply use a revolver then (JackHammer) :D
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Because, as you said, side mags are cool :p
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Because, as you said, side mags are cool :p
Could do a top mounted mag and a side-mounted scope.
Ruger
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Maybe move the magazine over the trigger and you still have a sexy but more important functional design
Did I mentioned that I love that bridgelayer
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Maybe move the magazine over the trigger and you still have a sexy but more important functional design
Did I mentioned that I love that bridgelayer
Unfortunately its kind of done now.
(https://i.imgur.com/YNW6GHX.jpg)
so no changes can be made, its a clunky layout for sure but I'm still happy with it :)
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Unfortunately its kind of done now.
so no changes can be made, its a clunky layout for sure but I'm still happy with it :)
There is another option, fluff it as having intakes on both sides, than an infantry man can choose their preferred side or go nuts with double magazines.
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There is another option, fluff it as having intakes on both sides, than an infantry man can choose their preferred side or go nuts with double magazines.
especially a un-armored elemental with two.... spraying 35mm explosive rounds from the hip ;D
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There is another option, fluff it as having intakes on both sides, than an infantry man can choose their preferred side or go nuts with double magazines.
That's one of the things, the magazine can load left or right, not both sadly :p
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So we wee update on Project Zhukov.
Its almost done, save for some edits and a bit here and there to be altered (again, mostly in the editing). Its a case of waiting on one unit sketch to be completed now and then 3 gun sketches to, like the unit to turn from sketches into full pictures and this shouldn't take too long.
The one character picture in it is coming along nicely.
(https://i.imgur.com/b3btISV.png)
That's the basic details of the image, so its colours and other touches for him, we're also working on an OOB but this is raising questions on how the Horses attach infantry to formations as they're pretty much the only Clan to use them outside of security/anti-bandit roles. Are there Infantry stars in Clusters or are they attached in a more ad-hoc manner? We're having to try and bang out some doctrine to figure it out and this might mean a bit more writing for the OOB and associated details with it. But, this isn't a bad thing and, barring no major disasters, the project should, fingers crossed be finished by the end of the month :)
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Those dreadlocks are interesting. She is an elemental?
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Those dreadlocks are interesting. She is an elemental?
He and nope, a Warrior, but one that commands a tank and who would go on to be the driving force behind Project Zhukov. At the time of the setting the Horses are moving away from their combined arms approach and going towards the supremacy of the Mech. But there's Warriors of various ranks who call themselves 'Traditionalists' often tank commanders who think this is a bad idea. Forming a bloc in the Horses pushing to keep the Horses traditional combined arms approach that worked so well for their Founders. Some of the more driven and outspoken ones would wear their hair long, knowing full well that it's not the best thing for a neurohelmet and its basically a political statement. And this chap here, would go on to be the Horses saKhan..so yep definately a statement there :D
Of course this is all headcanon stuff but I think it works.
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(https://i.imgur.com/sBGqpkZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/uTzyTtK.jpg)
Some heavy weapons for un-battle armoured Elemental troops operating in the heavy/assault infantry role.
Drawn by the amazing Matt Plog.
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That is serious heavy metal heat their packing.
Are you going give stats for those things, including AS, ATOW, i'm not thinking about MW:D since stats aren't really public.
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That is serious heavy metal heat their packing.
Are you going give stats for those things, including AS, ATOW, i'm not thinking about MW:D since stats aren't really public.
Ya mean something that might read...
Item:
RG-88
Equipment Rating:
E/X-X-D/E
AP/BD:
6B/6
Range:
45/120/375/1000
Shots:
5, 6 PPS
Damage:
0.63
Cost/Reload:
5,000
AFF:
Clan/Hell’s Horses
Mass/Reload:
14 KG/4.5 KG
Notes:
ENCUMBERING
By any chance? :D
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So... is that a crew of 1E, or 2? ???
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One Elemental :) If an Elemental can run around with the MUCH bigger Bearhunter
(https://cfw.sarna.net/wiki/images/a/a2/Infan32.png?timestamp=20110119205204)
This is a lot smaller.
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The Bearhunter has a crew of 2 (per Tech Manual).
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The Bearhunter has a crew of 2 (per Tech Manual).
Ahh, i'm just going off the art. If those guys are jump pack troops (in the pic above) then the other crewman wouldn't be there, I think that's just a gaming abstract rule. The ammo backpack and gun would be carried by 1 Elemental and used by him/her.
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The second guy could be handling the ammo, verses the gunner holding da gun.
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That's how it works in the rules: only the "gunner" fires the support weapon... the other crew members fire their own "primary" weapons.
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That's how it works in the rules: only the "gunner" fires the support weapon... the other crew members fire their own "primary" weapons.
Ahh got ya, but i'd say head cannony that would be..awkward to say the least on say jump troops to have to move and operate together with one carrying the ammo, the other carrying the gun, and that kind of set up is purely a rules abstraction. In reality the ammo and gun would be carried by the Elemental. You can fit a lot of ammo in with caseless rounds and yeah its heavy but your average Elemental is taller than the actor who played The Mountain in GOT and probably as strong (and he's one of if not the strongest men in the world who recently deadlifted over a ton). Their body armour would probably have lil servo's in the joints and act like an exoskeleton with weight bearing bits and bobs to help as well.
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The second crew would just carry MORE ammo, and pass it on as necessary/able. At least, that's how I see it...
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The second crew would just carry MORE ammo, and pass it on as necessary/able. At least, that's how I see it...
Aye, in the fluff for the XG-88 I said that other members of the squad would carry 1000 round clips on them and would give them to the gunners as and when needed. :)
Ya can find the fluff and so much more here - https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=67577.0
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The last bit of art is coming along nicely, should be done in a day or so but here's a sneak peek
(https://i.imgur.com/DTx408v.png)
saKhan Yana Fletcher.
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Is Plog better? I haven't been on his art page in a while, breaking arms and other assort parts except his writing hand sounds like he had something seriously BAD happen to him. :o
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Is Plog better? I haven't been on his art page in a while, breaking arms and other assort parts except his writing hand sounds like he had something seriously BAD happen to him. :o
Oh he's fine now.
https://www.deviantart.com/mattplog
been a busy bee!
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Wish he was working on CGL TROs!!! This is madding! :D
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Wish he was working on CGL TROs!!! This is madding! :D
https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=67601.0
Second post :p Something tells me we'll see more soon and with any luck, in a book.
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(https://i.imgur.com/AcBInWg.jpg)
Seen here in our iteration of the Hell's Horses dress uniform, saKhan Yana Fletcher 'talks shop' with other members of his Clan as he seeks to bring his vision of a true combined arms force in the Hell's Horses to fruition.
Drawn by the amazing https://www.deviantart.com/jinsonlygurl
The cannonical Hell's Horses dress uniform has red trousers, but we thought it made him look like he was wearing a onesie so they were changed to black which we felt looked better, hence the change :)
Any thoughts and comments are most welcome!
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Great scene, it looks very realistic wit its usage of light.
ps. The link doesn't seem to be working.
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Yeah she's amazing :) And fixed :)
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Wow, that came out nice!
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Wow, that came out nice!
I'm glad ya like it, I was blown away by him when I saw 'im :)
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[EDIT] Never mind I found it and am super impressed. Congrats [/EDIT]
Hey Brother,
I am coming back to the Fan Fic world after a long absence. Wanted to know if your project Zukov was completed and I can download it anywhere?