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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1080 on: 20 May 2024, 18:01:31 »
So just got mine, and uh...y'all know that "S-UM-1XLA" is a Blakist-style model number, right?

Pretty close to it indeed. I assume "XLA" replaces "LAM" in the normal Spectral LAM format because it's experimental.

God, now I'm actually hoping there's lore for this thing.
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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1081 on: 20 May 2024, 19:05:35 »
Honestly, having big-name generals and lords with crazy elite skills kinda irks me a bit. These people are busy making decisions that affect trillions of people, where do they find time to maintain elite-level tactical skills? I'd really like to see some with veteran or regular skills, and then load them up with force-multiplying SPAs, to reflect their roles as commanders, versus fighters.

Teddy Kurita with the Orion is a 4/3 with 3 command type SPAs.

The Augustine Arquebusiers CO is 4/4 in the T-Hawk.

Most of the cards we have gotten are either legends or tactical commanders.  Not too many regimental COs IIRC.
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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1082 on: 20 May 2024, 19:09:51 »
The Augustine Arquebusiers CO is 4/4 in the T-Hawk.


In which case he should probably get a cyclops, and give the murder-machine to a bodyguard.

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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1083 on: 20 May 2024, 20:10:28 »
Pretty close to it indeed. I assume "XLA" replaces "LAM" in the normal Spectral LAM format because it's experimental.

God, now I'm actually hoping there's lore for this thing.

It would be nice to see, tried making it in MegaMec and couldn't get close.
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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1084 on: 20 May 2024, 20:16:26 »
Stefan Amaris is just such a character per his description in the Liberation of Terra series. Regular gunnery/piloting, crazy force multiplier. Vasily Sandoval in ER:2750 is pretty similar. They exist, but they're just not used often *enough*.

There are plenty of leaders who aren't great MechWarriors. We just don't get their Piloting/Gunnery skills very often because, you know, they're not great MechWarriors and are unlikely to be used in a game. (But Sun-Tzu Liao had better be one of the pilots for the Emperor.) Keep in mind that so many leaders are exceptional fighters is a deliberate style choice for the universe, to reinforce its nonfeudal setting. Early writeups for the fictional call the heads of the Great Houses the "Successor Warlords." A person who wins often in battle is portrayed as more able, even justified, to rule. Devlin Stone became a king by his own hand, for an extreme example.

Now that said, the truly greatest MechWarriors - folks like Yoringa Kurita, Morgan Kell, Kai Allard-Liao, and Natasha Kerensky, the genuine 0/0 pilots - are portrayed as being so deadly that they're above politics. Of these terrifyingly exceptional fighters only The Black Widow held real political station, and that was part of a game being played by Ulric Kerensky. This also fits in with the aesthetic; a Baron or shogun could swing a sword with skill, but their greatest knights and samurai were exemplified by being deadlier than even their lords.
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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1085 on: 20 May 2024, 21:08:39 »
It also makes sense that we had leaders with good combat skills because the cards were introduced in the Clan Invasion KS, and among the Clans you sometimes have to personally defend your decisions . . . Elias Crichell being an exception.  Even then his ability to dodge the issue ran out.
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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1086 on: 20 May 2024, 23:02:16 »
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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1087 on: 21 May 2024, 01:41:13 »
Now that said, the truly greatest MechWarriors - folks like Yoringa Kurita, Morgan Kell, Kai Allard-Liao, and Natasha Kerensky, the genuine 0/0 pilots - are portrayed as being so deadly that they're above politics. Of these terrifyingly exceptional fighters only The Black Widow held real political station, and that was part of a game being played by Ulric Kerensky. This also fits in with the aesthetic; a Baron or shogun could swing a sword with skill, but their greatest knights and samurai were exemplified by being deadlier than even their lords.

I totally agree with your larger point but to say that Kai Allard-Liao didn't hold any real political station is probably going too far.  For a while he was the heir of an interstellar nation and addressed the assembled 2nd Star League ruling body.  Politics wasn't his main jam, but I would call that having a poltical station.

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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1088 on: 21 May 2024, 11:57:45 »
I totally agree with your larger point but to say that Kai Allard-Liao didn't hold any real political station is probably going too far.  For a while he was the heir of an interstellar nation and addressed the assembled 2nd Star League ruling body.  Politics wasn't his main jam, but I would call that having a poltical station.

Not to mention that he ran a Prefecture in the Republic for almost 20 years while still maintaining his edge. 
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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1089 on: 21 May 2024, 16:57:18 »
Not to mention that he ran a Prefecture in the Republic for almost 20 years while still maintaining his edge. 

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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1090 on: 21 May 2024, 17:08:50 »
It's surprisingly balanced out by giants killing the little ones too. 

Star League vs the Periphery.

Star Adders and the Blood Spirts come to mind.

Hanse vs Max and Max Liao has hellbie dice on top of a fraction of the military might of the FedSuns.

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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1091 on: 21 May 2024, 23:24:21 »
Life is beautiful like that sometimes lol
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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1092 on: 22 May 2024, 20:55:08 »
I totally agree with your larger point but to say that Kai Allard-Liao didn't hold any real political station is probably going too far.  For a while he was the heir of an interstellar nation and addressed the assembled 2nd Star League ruling body.  Politics wasn't his main jam, but I would call that having a poltical station.

Also, to say that Morgan Kell wasn't political is probably not accurate. He becomes more political after he retires, but he's a Grand Duke, not a hedge knight, everything he does is inherently political and his political goals shape what the Kell Hounds do.


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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1093 on: 22 May 2024, 21:55:14 »
Anyone know when the 40th anniversary boxes go to retail?

You can already order them on the CGL store, but Amazon says June 12.  Ideally, I'd like to support my local game store, but we'll see...

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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1094 on: 22 May 2024, 21:57:20 »
Does amazon say that or someone selling through amazon say that? There is a difference - the second is not to be considered reliable

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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1095 on: 22 May 2024, 22:01:52 »
Honestly, as regularly as I see Amazon change information, I don't consider the former reliable either.
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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1096 on: 23 May 2024, 08:06:41 »
Peachstate Hobby Distribution has the two Anniversary boxes and the Star League Command Lance releasing on June 12th.

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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1097 on: 23 May 2024, 08:11:30 »
I wonder why so much later with the general release of the products? Almost a month later.
Is that normal?
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« Reply #1098 on: 23 May 2024, 08:40:10 »
I wonder why so much later with the general release of the products? Almost a month later.
Is that normal?
This is not the normal release pattern, usually its closer to a week between the webstore getting it and general retail. Likely there is something going on with the warehouse that delayed product getting shipped to other distributors and Catalyst decided it was better to get the delayed product out as soon as they can instead of getting the webstore and regular retail releases synchronized.

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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1099 on: 23 May 2024, 09:20:58 »
According to the owner of the local comic book store, there's been some general wonkiness with US distributors for a few months now, not just when it comes to Battletech.
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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1100 on: 23 May 2024, 09:43:56 »
This is not the normal release pattern, usually its closer to a week between the webstore getting it and general retail. Likely there is something going on with the warehouse that delayed product getting shipped to other distributors and Catalyst decided it was better to get the delayed product out as soon as they can instead of getting the webstore and regular retail releases synchronized.

The one month between PSI getting the product in warehouse and the 'street date' where retailers have it for sale is normal. PSI usually waits till they have it on hand to then advertise it to retailers and ask for orders, and gives a month for that process so they can all generally get the same access. So this isn't a sign that anything went wrong at the PSI warehouse.
The CGL webstore selling as soon as it's in the warehouse instead of the retailer street date is more unusual, possibly because these were thought they were going to be available earlier (Adepticon for example) and players have been waiting on them.  But that issue was in shipping to the warehouse, not a problem once it was at the warehouse.
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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1101 on: 23 May 2024, 13:31:44 »
Thanks for all the updates.
I was just thinking it has something to do with the release of the Kickstarter and don't want to release stuff that was a part of the kickstarter.
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« Reply #1102 on: 23 May 2024, 13:56:44 »
The one month between PSI getting the product in warehouse and the 'street date' where retailers have it for sale is normal. PSI usually waits till they have it on hand to then advertise it to retailers and ask for orders, and gives a month for that process so they can all generally get the same access. So this isn't a sign that anything went wrong at the PSI warehouse.

Except we have public confirmation that PSI has had the Star League Command Lance, Urbanmech LAM,  and the 40th anniversary boxes in their warehouse since at least April 16th, meaning that the normal 1 month period for advertising to retailers should have been over before now.

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« Reply #1103 on: 23 May 2024, 14:42:30 »
Peachstate Hobby Distribution has the two Anniversary boxes and the Star League Command Lance releasing on June 12th.

My hobby store has finally seen it in a note from their distributor.  Looks like June 12th for me, too.

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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1104 on: 24 May 2024, 01:32:44 »
There are plenty of leaders who aren't great MechWarriors. We just don't get their Piloting/Gunnery skills very often because, you know, they're not great MechWarriors and are unlikely to be used in a game. (But Sun-Tzu Liao had better be one of the pilots for the Emperor.) Keep in mind that so many leaders are exceptional fighters is a deliberate style choice for the universe, to reinforce its nonfeudal setting. Early writeups for the fictional call the heads of the Great Houses the "Successor Warlords." A person who wins often in battle is portrayed as more able, even justified, to rule. Devlin Stone became a king by his own hand, for an extreme example.

Now that said, the truly greatest MechWarriors - folks like Yoringa Kurita, Morgan Kell, Kai Allard-Liao, and Natasha Kerensky, the genuine 0/0 pilots - are portrayed as being so deadly that they're above politics. Of these terrifyingly exceptional fighters only The Black Widow held real political station, and that was part of a game being played by Ulric Kerensky. This also fits in with the aesthetic; a Baron or shogun could swing a sword with skill, but their greatest knights and samurai were exemplified by being deadlier than even their lords.

The feudal setting "combat skill = authority" thing is even called out specifically with regard to House Davion and its tradition of important Davions leading from the front and sacrificing themselves to save their troops. House Kurita's source material also at least hints at it because of how common vendettas and duels are and how lords have to be prepared for them. I'm glad we're getting more "tactician" types in the cards now, though.

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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1105 on: 26 May 2024, 12:00:46 »

Battletech Universe book when?



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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1106 on: 26 May 2024, 12:11:48 »
Battletech Universe book when?

Isn't it package with the Kickstarter? 
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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1107 on: 26 May 2024, 14:34:15 »
It's part of the Kickstarter, so not until after.

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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1108 on: 28 May 2024, 15:44:16 »
I want to paint up some mechs to go with the Kerensky Orion. Obviously, I’m using the mechs that came in the same box. Would it be too far out of line to use the mechs from the proliferation box? I’ve also thrown in a Griffen, Wolverine, BattleMaster and Shadow Hawk. Any anachronisms there?

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Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday
« Reply #1109 on: 28 May 2024, 15:48:36 »
I want to paint up some mechs to go with the Kerensky Orion. Obviously, I’m using the mechs that came in the same box. Would it be too far out of line to use the mechs from the proliferation box? I’ve also thrown in a Griffen, Wolverine, BattleMaster and Shadow Hawk. Any anachronisms there?

I don’t think the Ymir was ever officially used by the SLDF, but you never know. One-offs happen.

Your Battlemaster, Wolverine, Shadow Hawk, and Griffin are very normal for this.

Are you looking for compatibility with a 1st Star League theme or specifically the adult lifetime of Alexander Kerensky?

I think the answer will be similar, but it would be good to know.
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