Filling in the Syberian AutoMechs (Open Thread)

[HABeas2]

All I can say on those super-large mobile cities is that they are likely a set of 9 linked structure components (5x6-6x6 in size) that collectively cover a ground area about the size of single mapsheet. They are track-based, and may appear in a number of strange configurations.

The three I have on file are known as Metro-Central (AutoBoP [Metroplex]), Tri-Central Command (DemoCon [Trypticon]), and Titanianopilis (Democon [Metrotitan]).

I never statted them, in order to maintain my own sanity, but I imagine the outer structures would generally feature weapon emplacements, while the central structure contains command centers and repair/supply facilities.

- Herb

[Wrangler]

Thanks for letting us know, basic idea how big the things were is all we could hope for.

[truetanker]

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Recyclon

Gonna leave this here...

Open conception...

TT

[HABeas2]

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Recyclon
Gonna leave this here...
Open conception...

In what way? Hard for me to make a determination without visuals.

- Herb

[truetanker]

In what way? Hard for me to make a determination without visuals.

- Herb

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Junkion_(species)

" Do you speak TV? "

They and the Recyclons are both junk hoarders. One for Scrap and the other for Energon...

Their names and tools of their trade are listed, just not their chassis/colour schemes... Other than rusty and off...

TT

[Luciora]

Funny, I'm finishing up a Wreck-gar as it is.

[truetanker]

Funny, I'm finishing up a Wreck-gar as it is.

There's your

without visuals

que Herb.

TT

[Luciora]

The Recylons are fan created?  I think what Herb was asking was what do they actually look like.  Checking the links, there isn't any art for them, and there isn't any link to the Junkions stating they derived from them either.  Just a battle or two.

[HABeas2]

The Recylons are fan created?  I think what Herb was asking was what do they actually look like.  Checking the links, there isn't any art for them, and there isn't any link to the Junkions stating they derived from them either.  Just a battle or two.

Exactly! I don't know anything more than a name and what they did. If you want me to make an AutoMech series based on them, I'd need to know what they turn into and what they look like. Otherwise, it's all guesswork.

- Herb

[I am Belch II]

How about one of these??
Looks like a normal sized guy.

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Alpha_Trion_(G1)

[HABeas2]

How about one of these??
Looks like a normal sized guy.

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Alpha_Trion_(G1)

Hm. Same molds as Scourge in several cases, so he'd be a Sweeper-C on Syberia.

- Herb

[I am Belch II]

Hm. Same molds as Scourge in several cases, so he'd be a Sweeper-C on Syberia.

- Herb

Ok a Scourge. Works for me, and you wrote the book, so I'll take it.

[RifleMech]

A couple more questions. 

Are there any AutoMechs that face the opposite way they were traveling when converting from vehicle to mech mode, like Blue Streak? If so, would that be negative quirk?

Would AutoMechs with "built in" trailers like Motormaster, follow the rules for vehicles towing trailers?

[truetanker]

@Herb...



"Hahahaha—[whir]
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——hahahahahaha—[whir]
——–hahahahahaha!"

Sound familiar? Should be your Syberian pseudo...



TT

[truetanker]

https://www.cbr.com/transformers-dinobot-slug-name-change-offensive/

Poor Slag... I mean Slug.

No offense meant to you Brits...

Killing my childhood...

TT

[HABeas2]

https://www.cbr.com/transformers-dinobot-slug-name-change-offensive/

Poor Slag... I mean Slug.

No offense meant to you Brits...

Killing my childhood...

Yeah, that came about years ago. It's also funny in that "slag" was used as a Cybertronian curse-word at least during the Beast Wars era, so, I mean, how would that play for the Brits?

- Herb

[truetanker]

And I am never giving up my two Megatron Lugers, pre Orange tip.

It's not just that, but now he's officially a tank.

No Tanks...

Next you're gonna tell me that Starscream is really the G. I. Joe Sky striker!

TT

[HABeas2]

I prefer a tank Megatron because then he has agency of his own, rather than needing one of his lackeys to aim and shoot him. Same reason I embraced tank-form Shockwave.

And Starscream is whatever kind of fighter he wants to be, but the F-15 will always be my favorite incarnation. ;)

- Herb

And I am never giving up my two Megatron Lugers, pre Orange tip.

It's not just that, but now he's officially a tank.

No Tanks...

Next you're gonna tell me that Starscream is really the G. I. Joe Sky striker!

[RifleMech]

I don't mind Megatron and Shockwave as tanks. It does let them do things on his own. Although, I don't remember Shockwave moving about all that much so I can see him as an EmplacementMech. Plus the size changing thing doesn't really work in BT. I can still see them converting to guns but they'd be battle armor sized which doesn't seem to fit with them being faction leaders.

Starscream as an F-15 is my favorite too.

[Luciora]

My striping is terrible and I couldn't cheat with decals, but here is my take on Groundwave

[HABeas2]

I don't mind Megatron and Shockwave as tanks. It does let them do things on his own. Although, I don't remember Shockwave moving about all that much so I can see him as an EmplacementMech. Plus the size changing thing doesn't really work in BT. I can still see them converting to guns but they'd be battle armor sized which doesn't seem to fit with them being faction leaders.

In this project, Shockwave was based on his Prime/Aligned universe format, which was basically a Cybertronian tank/tank destroyer, while Megatron was more like his War for Cyberton or Siege Trilogy models. And yeah, there's no size-changing rule here. That's just icky magic in BattleTech. Save it for Toreel.

- Herb

[glitterboy2098]

i much prefer the idea of Megatron and Shockwave as having vehicle alt-modes instead of them being firearms. even emplacements honestly makes them feel less threatening.

at least there are multiple optiosn there, between the tank and jet versions that show up in the various continuities. heck, would make for a fun set of sub-variants. have a high commander type for both ground and aerospace operations. though figuring out variant names would get complicated. :)

[I am Belch II]

Wasn't Galvatron a "artillery piece" moving around??

[Wrangler]

This is the two images I modified for the fan story, Emergence fan for Groundwave.  I hadn't realized there was a big dish on his back.

[HABeas2]

Wasn't Galvatron a "artillery piece" moving around??

Yup, and again, I used a tank form for his Sybeia expy Galvan Tankus. Mainly because I have one of those many Galvatron figures made through the 2000s and 2010s with a tank mode. But most depictions of Galvatron's artillery piece mode did show tracks that suggest he was meant to be more of a futuristic mobile howitzer, at least as I see him.

i much prefer the idea of Megatron and Shockwave as having vehicle alt-modes instead of them being firearms. even emplacements honestly makes them feel less threatening.

at least there are multiple optiosn there, between the tank and jet versions that show up in the various continuities. heck, would make for a fun set of sub-variants. have a high commander type for both ground and aerospace operations. though figuring out variant names would get complicated. :)

Oh, certainly, and the way Syberia works, all that would need to happen is for one of the FighterMechs to either receive MechaTankus's head, or to be programmed with a duplicate version of MechaTankus's AI to basically bring one of the flying-form "Megatrons" to life. Since I have approached triple-changers as being pair-bonded units of differing chassis types, that would be one way to approach a triple-changing MechaTankus. Star Seeker would have REAL trouble dealing with that, I'm sure.

- Herb

[Luciora]

Sorry!  It was an interpretation, and I saw mention of a dish array and whip antennae, and I'm not too great at doing whip aerials for mechs. 

This is the two images I modified for the fan story, Emergence fan for Groundwave.  I hadn't realized there was a big dish on his back.

[Giovanni Blasini]

My striping is terrible and I couldn't cheat with decals, but here is my take on Groundwave

Very nice!

This is the two images I modified for the fan story, Emergence fan for Groundwave.  I hadn't realized there was a big dish on his back.

I didn't use one on my own Groundwave in TDR form mini, because I didn't have a good dish I could use.  But, then, I didn't add the antennae or wheels, either. (see attached)

I haven't even started a Groundwave in GRF form yet, since I'm still working out representation for the GRF-1A, GRF-1N and other Griffins in my Alpha Strike Niops force: I've got one of Catalyst's Griffins and 4 Ral Partha Griffins, and none of IWM's GRF-1As.  For now, I've been using one of these as a stand-in:

[Daryk]

Heh... that Thunderbolt mini REALLY embraces the OG misprint that gave them a couple extra IS points in the arms... ;D

[RifleMech]

In this project, Shockwave was based on his Prime/Aligned universe format, which was basically a Cybertronian tank/tank destroyer, while Megatron was more like his War for Cyberton or Siege Trilogy models. And yeah, there's no size-changing rule here. That's just icky magic in BattleTech. Save it for Toreel.

- Herb

I haven't seen either of those shows but I might have seen the toy. Some are pretty cool. And yep! Toreel can have the icky magic. 

My striping is terrible and I couldn't cheat with decals, but here is my take on Groundwave

Cool minis!

Very nice!

I didn't use one on my own Groundwave in TDR form mini, because I didn't have a good dish I could use.  But, then, I didn't add the antennae or wheels, either. (see attached)

I haven't even started a Groundwave in GRF form yet, since I'm still working out representation for the GRF-1A, GRF-1N and other Griffins in my Alpha Strike Niops force: I've got one of Catalyst's Griffins and 4 Ral Partha Griffins, and none of IWM's GRF-1As.  For now, I've been using one of these as a stand-in:

There's Dougram minis that will work with Battletech minis?  They'd be fun to get. 

[Wrangler]

There's Dougram minis that will work with Battletech minis?  They'd be fun to get.

Actually, yes. 
I am not sure if they're still being sold, but about 5 years ago they were quite available. They came in tiny little boxes of. They were kind of a random box sort of pick. But there are many of them are really cool including the Griffin the Shadow Hawk and so forth. With interesting poses.