3050 Iconic Omnis/Mechs by Clan Touman?

[Alzer]

I am looking to put together my clan force and am wondering what are the go-to omnis and mechs of the 6 initial Clans from Operation REVIVAL  Trying to decide if there are any I should really reach out for to get to where I want thematically with my Binary

Wolf: Timberwolf, Kit Fox(?)

Jade Falcon: Summoner, Hellbringer, Uller, Turkina

Ghost Bear: Executioner, Kodiak, Kingfisher, Dragonfly

Smoke Jaguar: Mad Dog, Warhawk, Conjurer

[BATTLEMASTER]

Clan Smoke Jaguar had exclusive production of the Warhawk until their annihilation, so I'd add that to their list.  Other Clans had access to them via salvage.

[Decoy]

Ghost Bear: Firemoth, Dragonfly, Executioner
Jade Falcon: Kitfox, Hellbringer, Summoner
Smoke Jaguar, Mist Lynx, Ryoken, Warhawk, Direwolf
Wolf: Adder, Ice Ferret, Timberwolf, Gargoyle

I think the Mad Dog is the only 3050 omni with the ubiquitous trait. The Nova is widespread, but rare.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Smoke Jaguar, Mist Lynx, Ryoken, Warhawk, Direwolf

Agreed 100%. Was coming to post this very list.

[JimberWolf]

The following is an unscientific collection based on popular perception and from sources like the old Jade Falcon and Wolf phonebooks and the Luthien and Tukayyid scenarios and limiting a Mech (omni and standard) to only one Clan while attempting to provide a range of weight classes and roles. Considered factors include Clan of origin, production rights, proliferation, and gut feeling.


Jade Falcon: Kit Fox, Hellbringer, Summoner (added circa Tukayyid: Fire Falcon, Black Lanner, Night Gyr, Turkina)

Steel Viper: Battle Cobra, Crossbow, Vapor Eagle, Black Python

Wolf: Adder, Ice Ferret, Timber Wolf, Gargoyle, Orion IIC (added circa Tukayyid: Phantom, Pouncer, Linebacker)

Ghost Bear: Fire Moth, Viper, Mad Dog, Executioner, Kingfisher, Kodiak

Smoke Jaguar: Mist Lynx, Stormcrow, Warhawk, Dire Wolf (added circa Luthien: Ebon Jaguar)

Nova Cat: Arctic Cheetah, Shadow Cat, Huntsman, Jenner IIC, Supernova

[Hellraiser]

16 TRO3050 Omnis by Clan Usage.

DireWolf -  Common/Jags,   Moderate/Wolves,    Low/Others
Executioner - Bears/Common,  Others/Low
WarHawk - Common/Jaguars     Others/Low
Gargoyle - Common/Wolves          Others/Moderate

Timberwolf - Common/Wolves      Others/Low
Summoner - Falcons/Common     Others/Moderate
Hellbringer - Falcons/Common     Others/Common-Moderate
MadDog -   Jags/Bears - Common   Others - Common/Moderate

Stormcrow - Jags/Common    Others - Moderate/Common
Nova  - Wolves/Moderate      Others/Low
IceFerret  -  Wolves/Common    Others - Moderate/Low
Viper -  Bears/Common          Others - Moderate/Low

Adder - Wolves/Common       Others - Moderate
KitFox - Falcons/Common       Others - Moderate
MistLynx - Jags / Common      Others - Moderate
FireMoth - Bears / Common-Moderate     Others - Moderate/Low

[Bren]

My little chart.

[Hellraiser]

I'm now dying to know what the difference is between Square, Dash, Circle (Hollow v/s Filled)

[The Eagle]

I'm now dying to know what the difference is between Square, Dash, Circle (Hollow v/s Filled)

I'm inferring the following:

Square -- Heavy Use for that faction
Filled Circle --  Common
Empty Circle -- Uncommon
Dash -- Rare

[Luciora]

Huh, according to these lists, per the omnis I favor, I'm more of a Wolf / Bear person. (Also the salvage and legendary blind boxes I picked up!   :)))

[Zeruel]

I'm inferring the following:

Square -- Heavy Use for that faction
Filled Circle --  Common
Empty Circle -- Uncommon
Dash -- Rare

that's how I interpreted his symbols as well

I mostly agree with Bren's chart but I would probably bump up the Dire Wolf to uncommon for the Wolves, the Executioner to uncommon for the Jags, and swap the Fire Moth and Adder on the Bears to common and uncommon respectively

[The Eagle]

that's how I interpreted his symbols as well

I mostly agree with Bren's chart but I would probably bump up the Dire Wolf to uncommon for the Wolves, the Executioner to uncommon for the Jags, and swap the Fire Moth and Adder on the Bears to common and uncommon respectively

I would agree with those modifications.

[Hellraiser]

Huh, according to these lists, per the omnis I favor, I'm more of a Wolf / Bear person. (Also the salvage and legendary blind boxes I picked up!   :)))

Mine was a mixed bag.

Legend - Marauder

Salvage -  x7-8?
Summoner
Hellbringr  x2
IceFerret  x2
Shadowcat ??
I forget what else but I know I had 2 dupes above.
So a mix of Wolf/Falcon stuff from what I recall.

[Bren]

I mostly agree with Bren's chart but I would probably bump up the Dire Wolf to uncommon for the Wolves, the Executioner to uncommon for the Jags, and swap the Fire Moth and Adder on the Bears to common and uncommon respectively

Correct on symbols, sorry forgot a legend.

I'd agree with those modifications based on TRO3050u -- my list being based on the original 1990 book.

EDIT: I see I mixed up the mass/position on the Kit Fox and Adder ...

[(SMD)MadCow]

When the Bears took Tokasha, they got Nova, Stormcrow, and Gargoyle lines.

[Zeruel]

When the Bears took Tokasha, they got Nova, Stormcrow, and Gargoyle lines.

while this is true, they still didn't use those 'Mechs as much as other Clans...they probably used them for trade

the Bears had/have a preference for the specific four of the Executioner, Mad Dog, Viper and Fire Moth

[Hellraiser]

I think the Nova was even discontinued wasn't it?
It was fluffed as Uncommon w/ the Wolves & Rare w/ All Others.

StormCrow production being near everywhere, I don't think its going to be "Uncommon" anywhere.

Gargoyle is favored by the Wolves but its in semi-Common usage among all Invaders + Horses.

[Decoy]

Aye.

The Proto Omni Corvid was sold off to the Snow Ravens and the Nova discontinued. The Bears did a lot of retooling at Tokasha, apparently.

[BATTLEMASTER]

StormCrow production being near everywhere, I don't think its going to be "Uncommon" anywhere.

It's amazing that the Clans didn't have an easier time with the invasion considering how good the Stormcrow chassis is.  The Prime is basically a Marauder 3D that moves at 6/9  :D

[MarauderD]

It's amazing that the Clans didn't have an easier time with the invasion considering how good the Stormcrow chassis is.  The Prime is basically a Marauder 3D that moves at 6/9  :D

And now my love for the Stormcrow makes even more sense!  Thank you!

[rebs]

Didn't like its asthetics much (its all legs practically), but the Stormcrow was still my go-to 'mech in MW2 on the Playstation.

[Colt Ward]

I would also point out you had other Omnis during the actual Invasion, some of which as reflected by the Kickstarter mech release.  Further, we got a standard mechs for other Clans in Invading Clans SB- like the Bears getting the Kodiak & Grizzly.

Kingfisher- Bears, and lesser degree Jags
Mongrel-  Sharks/Tukayyid
Huntsman- Cats & Sharks/Luthien
Arctic Cheetah- Jaguars
Cauldron Born/Ebon Jaguar- Smoke Jags/Luthien
Lupus- Adder design that was eventually repurposed, Hellfire entry makes them sound still in use
Crossbow-  Vipers with Falcons salvaging
Battle Cobra-  Vipers with Falcons salvaging
Stooping Hawk- Rare but Bears (trade) & Vipers (salvage) possible
Linebacker-  Wolves, end of the Invasion
Phantom-  In WCSB, talks about 'saKhan Ward' which firmly puts it firmly after the Invasion ended
Pouncer- among one cluster in the Wolves, the fat Adder was created by direction of ilKhan Kerensky
Shadow Cat-  Nova Cats, Jaguars, spread to others/Luthien

Standard Mechs
Kodiak-  Bears exclusive
Grizzly-  Bears near exclusive
Glass Spider 2- Wolves
Warhammer IIC 2-  Jaguars
Stone Rhino- perceived as Jaguar
Black Python-  Viper & Falcon w/salvage
Vapor Eagle-  Viper but spread
Jenner IIC-  Nova Cat
Orion IIC- absolute Wolf exclusive, can be found in keshiks & frontline forces at times

Not sure there are too many of the standard mechs that are considered iconic of the Invaders.

[Bren]

Not sure there are too many of the standard mechs that are considered iconic of the Invaders.

Hunchback IIc was iconic for all. :)

[Istal_Devalis]

Not sure there are too many of the standard mechs that are considered iconic of the Invaders.

You left out the Supernova, absolutely iconic of the Nova Cats.

[Colt Ward]

Yeah, I knew there was another standard mech in ICSB but I could not remember it for the life of me.  The Supernova being in Nova Cat frontline forces is interesting for the simple reason that after the LB-10X, the cERLL is about the best utility gun.  Best range brackets and it hits that 10 point damage threshold, the design just pours that on along with decent mobility for an assault.  If the star/trinary is not set out to be a Nova it would IMO be the best follow up to a Omni- of at least what is available at the time.

[Hellraiser]

Hunchback IIc was iconic for all. :)

I'm not sure 3% is "Iconic" for ANY of them, lol.

That said, if I was to give an edge to any clan it would be the Jags who IIRC created it &/or owned the original factory.

[Metallgewitter]

Not sure there are too many of the standard mechs that are considered iconic of the Invaders.

I think for the Jade Falcons there would be the Incubus. A Mech that IS analysts had trouble thinking of what this Mech is exactly used for. And maybe the Bane? This Mech was a Mech which was used throughout the Clans

[Colt Ward]

They might be used by the Falcons but they were not sole rights, special use, or even exclusive.  The Wolves even go on to produce a Incubus variant.

[wantec]

I would also point out you had other Omnis during the actual Invasion, some of which as reflected by the Kickstarter mech release.  Further, we got a standard mechs for other Clans in Invading Clans SB- like the Bears getting the Kodiak & Grizzly.

Kingfisher- Bears, and lesser degree Jags
Mongrel-  Sharks/Tukayyid
Huntsman- Cats & Sharks/Luthien
Arctic Cheetah- Jaguars
Cauldron Born/Ebon Jaguar- Smoke Jags/Luthien
Lupus- Adder design that was eventually repurposed, Hellfire entry makes them sound still in use
Crossbow-  Vipers with Falcons salvaging
Battle Cobra-  Vipers with Falcons salvaging
Stooping Hawk- Rare but Bears (trade) & Vipers (salvage) possible
Linebacker-  Wolves, end of the Invasion
Phantom-  In WCSB, talks about 'saKhan Ward' which firmly puts it firmly after the Invasion ended
Pouncer- among one cluster in the Wolves, the fat Adder was created by direction of ilKhan Kerensky
Shadow Cat-  Nova Cats, Jaguars, spread to others/Luthien

Standard Mechs
Kodiak-  Bears exclusive
Grizzly-  Bears near exclusive
Glass Spider 2- Wolves
Warhammer IIC 2-  Jaguars
Stone Rhino- perceived as Jaguar
Black Python-  Viper & Falcon w/salvage
Vapor Eagle-  Viper but spread
Jenner IIC-  Nova Cat
Orion IIC- absolute Wolf exclusive, can be found in keshiks & frontline forces at times

Not sure there are too many of the standard mechs that are considered iconic of the Invaders.

The Lupus is a Coyote design, found in Era Digest Golden Century and TRO Golden Century.

[Colt Ward]

Yes, but if you read the Hellfire entry it leaves it open that it was still in use.  The initial Hellfire prototypes and first conversions were pulled from caches.  Then they pulled in all their Lupus to do the conversions and other Clans followed suit.  You will notice the Woodsman or Coyotl is not on the list because their entries are clear.

[Bren]

I'm not sure 3% is "Iconic" for ANY of them, lol.

Well, remember that's not just 3% of, say, front-line medium mechs -- not just 3% of all medium mechs -- it's 3% of all mechs in the touman -- regardless of front-line, second-line, garrison duty, etc., and regardless of weight class.

That's pretty significant.

[Hellraiser]

Yeah, True,  most clans, IIRC are like 40/60 Front Line to Second Line ratio.

Assuming 30% of the clan is Medium Mechs,  that means the HB2C is actually like 1/6th of all Second Line Mediums.

[Greatclub]

Nobori-nin (Huntsman) is a Nova Cat icon from Luthien forward.

Grendel (Mongrel) is the iconic 'Shark ride (lucky fish)

I mean, both were rare but rising stars at the time. Helps both are excellent, even if the 'nin tends towards "eccentric" but workable configurations.

[Greatclub]

Double post, ignore

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

Yes, but if you read the Hellfire entry it leaves it open that it was still in use.  The initial Hellfire prototypes and first conversions were pulled from caches.  Then they pulled in all their Lupus to do the conversions and other Clans followed suit.  You will notice the Woodsman or Coyotl is not on the list because their entries are clear.

According to the MUL, the Lupus was extinct by the Clan Invasion era.

[Colt Ward]

Really?  Then how did the Adders have 100 in a cache and others they pulled in to convert?  It was extinct by the end of the Invasion Era, but still existed going into that period.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

I'm assuming that it means that by the start of the invasion, all remaining Lupuses had been mothballed.  It really seems like the Adders had a hate on for the mech, given that they turned it into a second line design rather than just put the omnimech back into service.

[Colt Ward]

Mothballed does not mean that per the MUL . . . it would be one of the handful of errors that seem to get a shrug.  It was not just the Adders that did the conversions either, I think the Cobras followed their lead but I would have to read the section.

The Hellfire entry clearly states the first were converted from the cached chassis and after proving useful, they pulled all the ones that had remaining to convert though unlike the first they are not listed as from caches.  If the rest of the conversions were not moved for conversions from the caches, it implies some were in the Adder touman somewhere in use.  Since it is a Omni, they really make sense being used as training mechs rather than frontline forces.  And yes, it really is a 'huh?' for them to 'break' a Omni like that . . . but they were to replace Absorption War losses and intended for Burrocks.  Maybe not giving them Omnis put them in their place.

[RifleMech]

Is the OP asking about the original 15 OMNIs or any Mech the Invading Clans used? I ask because the Wolf Clan and Jade Falcon Clan Sourcebooks list a lot of TRO:2750 and TRO:3025 mechs. (TRO:3039 now) The  books don't list what variant so they could be anything. Old SLDF variants (Regulars or Royals), C variants, IIC variants, captured IS variants. Many of these are iconic designs.

Clan Wolf would also have had any mech used by Wolf's Dragoons ,since they supplied them. Pretty much anything from TRO:3025 along with a few nearly lost designs from TRO:3039. Plus there's the Imp, Shogun, Annihilator and Hoplite. Clan Wolf also had the Wolfhound and a IIC version thanks to capture and production. I'm not sure which IIC version is canon though. So there's a wide selection of mechs the OP can use, depending on if the binary is frontline, second line, PGC.

[ManicMaestro]

Fair warning, this turned into more of a wall of text than I planned. So TLDR: cannon sources conflict on whether the icons were the norm or just extra flavor in a force.

I think for OP, we've nailed the "iconic" mechs, but for force building you also have to think about your source for how prevalent the iconic mechs were. In some sources, the iconic mechs are almost the entirety of the touman, in others they're just there for flavor.

Some of that might be whether the source is talking in a macro sense, or focusing on giving a player in a realistic game (say star on star) the blessing to have variety in their force.

Let's use the Wolves for example, we know their iconic mechs are Gargoyle, Timber Wolf, Ice Ferret, and Adder. They also produce the Dire Wolf. I'll make it even simpler and just look at their distribution of assault mechs.

1. In the Wolf Clan sourcebook, listing every mech from every front line cluster, the Gargoyle makes up roughly 30% (I say roughly because I lost the spreadsheet I made years ago doing the actual math) of the ENTIRE front line mech force. If I remember this right, the 4th Wolf Guards had something over 30 Gargoyles out of a total mech force of 55 mechs (10 of which were Nagas). Conversely, I can't remember if there were more than 5 Dire Wolves in all of the front line forces. The exception to the uniformity being the "hero" unit 13th guards that had at least one of each of the 16 basic Omnis so you could be sure to build a star that fit.

2. In OTP: Revival Trials there is a RAT that I take to be a good proxy for the early invasion (3049ish). There, the Wolf assault table is only 36% Gargoyles and is a full 31% Dire Wolves (for every 6 Gargoyles, there should be 5 Dire Wolves).

3. In the newest cannon source with force building, the Battle of Tukayyid, the clans have a shared table and then you can replace one mech per star with an icon for the chosen faction. This leads the clans to be super homogeneous with just a touch of "flavor"

So takes your picks for what type of flavor you like, because there's probably at least one cannon source that supports it. I'm sure we could have a whole other post debating the merits of a more uniform distribution vs. a mish mash both in terms of what is "smart" force building and what is more keeping with faction feel (like not wasting any chassis you can salvage no matter where it came from)

[Colt Ward]

Let's use the Wolves for example, we know their iconic mechs are Gargoyle, Timber Wolf, Ice Ferret, and Adder. They also produce the Dire Wolf. I'll make it even simpler and just look at their distribution of assault mechs.

You also have to remember, what was present at Tukayyid was a snapshot of the exact distribution at that point in time AND the Clans had already shown a willingness to swap chassis out of Clusters to make the forces more appropriate to the trial.  FREX, they have a scenario on Icar in ER3052 that specifically gives the 4th Wolf Guards a Nova . . . which was not present on Tukayyid.  Never checked if the warrior was present.

Simplest explanation, as isorla and old production (hello Lupus) gets trashed early in the Invasion (3049-3050) it gets replaced by what the Invasion Wolves make or can buy.  Some designs like the Lupus, Nova, and maybe Kingfisher? were not being made any more at the time.  So say that mechwarrior lost their Nova in Wave 3 or 4 of Op Revival . . . well, it is likely to be replaced by a Gargoyle.  Or the mechwarrior & mech is lost- they are still likely to be replaced by a new warrior piloting a Gargoyle.

The Epsilon clusters- yeah write the listings off.  Either IICs, Cs, or old SL remains, which I think was born out in a Shrapnel story.

[Hellraiser]

You also have to remember, what was present at Tukayyid was a snapshot of the exact distribution at that point in time AND the Clans had already shown a willingness to swap chassis out of Clusters to make the forces more appropriate to the trial.  FREX, they have a scenario on Icar in ER3052 that specifically gives the 4th Wolf Guards a Nova . . . which was not present on Tukayyid.  Never checked if the warrior was present.

Oh, do tell, I don't have ER3052.  But, as someone that also ran the Icar invasion back in the 90's as part of a Wolf campaign I'm curious.

Simplest explanation, as isorla and old production (hello Lupus) gets trashed early in the Invasion (3049-3050) it gets replaced by what the Invasion Wolves make or can buy.  Some designs like the Lupus, Nova, and maybe Kingfisher? were not being made any more at the time.  So say that mechwarrior lost their Nova in Wave 3 or 4 of Op Revival . . . well, it is likely to be replaced by a Gargoyle.  Or the mechwarrior & mech is lost- they are still likely to be replaced by a new warrior piloting a Gargoyle.

FYI, Kingfisher was still in production, factory is on Strana Mechty.
Also might have been some smaller location mentioned in the Reavings book, lots of smaller factories in that book, but TRO3058 shows production still on Strana Mechty.
I don't think its ever mentioned who actually owns it, but, my headcanon has it owned by the Bears since they love the mech & are 1 of 2 clans w/ SM as their capital instead of some other world.

The Epsilon clusters- yeah write the listings off.  Either IICs, Cs, or old SL remains, which I think was born out in a Shrapnel story.

I take Epsilon to be the same thing you mentioned about Direwolves above.
It's a snapshot.
Maybe on that day in 3052 they only had TRO2750 mechs.
Maybe the year before they had IICs or after they had 3025 mech captured from the IS.
But on that day, it mostly looks like TRO:2750 from what I recall.

[Hellraiser]

Is the OP asking about the original 15 OMNIs or any Mech the Invading Clans used?

Pretty much anything from TRO:3025 along with a few nearly lost designs from TRO:3039.

Clan Wolf also had the Wolfhound and a IIC version thanks to capture and production.

I'm not sure which IIC version is canon though. So there's a wide selection of mechs the OP can use, depending on if the binary is frontline, second line, PGC.

1.  Seems like he's asking about the 16 Omnis from TRO3050 based on the title thread.

2.  Actually IIRC quite a few 3025 designs were NOT in production when the SLDF left the IS so they don't just get anything from TRO:3025

3.  Wait, what?  When did the Wolves EVER capture a Wolfhound factory in 3050?   Or Produce Wolfhound-IICs?
They had the HEAD/Cockpit of Phelan's mech.  From the main cockpit computer they pulled the blueprints & custom built a single prototype for Phelan to replace his lost mech.

4.  The one from Tales of the Black Widow seems to be the error, it doesn't match the description in the Novel or the Record Sheet.

[Colt Ward]

I take Epsilon to be the same thing you mentioned about Direwolves above.
It's a snapshot.
Maybe on that day in 3052 they only had TRO2750 mechs.
Maybe the year before they had IICs or after they had 3025 mech captured from the IS.
But on that day, it mostly looks like TRO:2750 from what I recall.

Kingfisher is a Raven invention, just not sure they kept it up.

As for Epsilon . . . reason I put it down to the IICs, Cs or SL left overs is b/c it was based on what was available at the time- sort of like I will mix in Kingfishers into Tukayyid even if they were not on the list.  Comes down to a timeline issue between IRL & BTU.  I just chalk it up to they were brought as garrisons and rarely got in the fight, so some acolyte would not know the difference on visual inspection between a Black Knight 6 and a Black Knight 6b.  Or some freebirth tells a ROM agent in a bar while drunk that he drives a Warhammer that was rebuilt from salvaged chassis taken off the Rassies in the first wave.

Based on Wolf structure, all the frontline galaxies but Alpha had a cluster sitting on the sidelines and the other Clans did not field the full strength of each galaxy, so selectively exchanging mechs between clusters for Tukayyid is possible- like how Vlad was given a Timber Wolf for the mission he found Phelan, even if it was not his star's normal mech.

#3, they never took a Wolfhound factory- Grinner was a 1-off and their was only 1 version.

As for the Nova on Icar in the 4th?  It is in the scenarios in the back of ER3052, Mechwarrior SoandSo spots the Spheriods preparing a ambush in Pofadder Gully using her Active Probe.  The commanding Star Captain turns against them, creating the situation from the old saw that a detected ambush is absolutely deadly to the ambushers.

[RifleMech]

1.  Seems like he's asking about the 16 Omnis from TRO3050 based on the title thread.

2.  Actually IIRC quite a few 3025 designs were NOT in production when the SLDF left the IS so they don't just get anything from TRO:3025

3.  Wait, what?  When did the Wolves EVER capture a Wolfhound factory in 3050?   Or Produce Wolfhound-IICs?
They had the HEAD/Cockpit of Phelan's mech.  From the main cockpit computer they pulled the blueprints & custom built a single prototype for Phelan to replace his lost mech.

4.  The one from Tales of the Black Widow seems to be the error, it doesn't match the description in the Novel or the Record Sheet.

1. That's what I initially thought but the /Mechs made me wonder.

2. Any design produced post Exodus could be captured.

3. Ulric Kerensky had Phelan's Wolfhound recreated with Clan Tech. I don't know if it was the only one though.

4. It's possible it could be in error. It would work for a C variant though.

#3, they never took a Wolfhound factory- Grinner was a 1-off and their was only 1 version.

They didn't need to since the technician's apparently had everything they needed to build one. I also don't know about it being the only one. It could be but with Clan Wolf wanting new mechs during and after the invasion why not produce more? Either way, it's still an iconic design.

[GoGo Yubari]

Smoke Jaguar: Mist Lynx, Stormcrow, Warhawk, Dire Wolf

This is the reason that this clan was the target of Inner Sphere's annihilation. That's just a insane bunch of common 'Mechs for a Touman.  >:D :thumbsup:

[Colt Ward]

This is the reason that this clan was the target of Inner Sphere's annihilation. That's just a insane bunch of common 'Mechs for a Touman.  >:D :thumbsup:

Eh, the Warhawk and Dire Wolf were not really that common among their forces.  The Warhawk had the one factory on Huntress, and while the Jags produced the Dire Wolf the Wolves had won the rights to most of the production IIRC.  The other part it leaves off is they were scavengers.  You were as likely to find Mad Dogs or Shadow Cats as Stormcrows and the Cauldron Born was replacing all 3 as able.  They were replacing the Mist Lynx in the touman with the Arctic Cheetah- one of the few real upgrades in BT rather than a side-grade.

[Apocal]

Eh, the Warhawk and Dire Wolf were not really that common among their forces.  The Warhawk had the one factory on Huntress, and while the Jags produced the Dire Wolf the Wolves had won the rights to most of the production IIRC. The other part it leaves off is they were scavengers.  You were as likely to find Mad Dogs or Shadow Cats as Stormcrows and the Cauldron Born was replacing all 3 as able.  They were replacing the Mist Lynx in the touman with the Arctic Cheetah- one of the few real upgrades in BT rather than a side-grade.

Judging by TP: Revival Trials (3049 but close enough for government work) and the dedicated Smoke Jaguar RATs therein? There is around a 70% chance of a frontline CSJ assault being either a Warhawk or Dire Wolf and better than half of any frontline medium being a Stormcrow.

If fan meta-works are acceptable evidence for you, Xotl's RAT (3050) puts the Stormcrow as roughly half of CSJ non-salvage mechs, which matches up with the fluff I recall about Stormcrows making up half the clan's stock of medium mechs, and the Warhawk and Dire Wolf put together being a bit over half of CSJ's assaults.

That's common by any reckoning.

[Colt Ward]

Judging by TP: Revival Trials (3049 but close enough for government work) and the dedicated Smoke Jaguar RATs therein? There is around a 70% chance of a frontline CSJ assault being either a Warhawk or Dire Wolf and better than half of any frontline medium being a Stormcrow.

If fan meta-works are acceptable evidence for you, Xotl's RAT (3050) puts the Stormcrow as roughly half of CSJ non-salvage mechs, which matches up with the fluff I recall about Stormcrows making up half the clan's stock of medium mechs, and the Warhawk and Dire Wolf put together being a bit over half of CSJ's assaults.

That's common by any reckoning.

Well, aside from the whole 'representative RATs do not really represent what you find' circular unlogic we get (I have always held they represent 80%-66% of a faction's force), my point was the forces over all.  The Jaguars, unless they got more fan servicing, were not like the Bears/Lyrans where they were noted to roll out assaults- so being common among their forces still holds since they had previously been presented as being a medium/heavy dominated force.  So by your numbers, a 70% chance of Dire Wolf or Warhawk is not common if they have 6 or 7 assault mechs on average for a cluster- so 4 or 5 of those two mechs for the 50 mechs (7a/11h/12m/10l FREX)in a average cluster.

A single factory turning out Warhawks to that level but not after the Jags lose control of it?  If the Jaguars had a bunch of Warhawks, the Scorpions should have as well after they took the factory.  As far as the Dire Wolf- while the Jags won the design rights b/c of Showers, the Wolves won the production output thanks to Ulric.  So it being 'common' is a faux pas since they do not get the production IIRC.  As far as the mediums, I included the Shadow Cat and Cauldron Born which were designs that proliferated in the midst of the Invasion where those new designs would replace Stormcrow wrecks.

The Jaguars steady bleeding out of assets became worse with the dual arterial gashing equivalent of Luthien and Tukayyid.

[ManicMaestro]

As far as the Dire Wolf- while the Jags won the design rights b/c of Showers, the Wolves won the production output thanks to Ulric.  So it being 'common' is a faux pas since they do not get the production IIRC.

TRO 3050u describes the Jags as fielding "many" Dire Wolves. I think Ulric just got the right to produce the Dire Wolf at their own site (Wolf Clan Site #1 on Strana Mechty), not the output from the Jag factories.

...The Jaguars, unless they got more fan servicing, were not like the Bears/Lyrans where they were noted to roll out assaults...

Several sources highlight Jag tactics of frontal assault using "overwhelming numbers of heavy and assault mechs". Cassius N'Buta described them as the "heavy horse" of the clans. The Battle of Tukayyid that came out relatively recently doesn't list a single trinary lighter than "heavy" for any of the featured Jag forces.

Now, to take an earlier point to heart, maybe after the losses at Wolcott, Luthien, and Tukayyid they couldn't field that force while they rebuilt. However, cannon sources support a "hulk smash" comp and strategy at the start of the invasion.

[JimberWolf]

Based on the OP:

...what are the go-to omnis and mechs of the 6 initial Clans from Operation REVIVAL

and the thread title, it seems like this is a question of:
Circa 3050, what would be considered the iconic OmniMechs and standard BattleMechs of each of the 6 initial (i.e. Wolf, Jade Falcon, Ghost Bear, Smoke Jaguar, Nova Cat, Steel Viper) invading clans?

"Iconic" is one of those definitionally mushy terms that means something a little different to everyone. Broadly, criteria for determining what is "iconic" boils down to two camps—quantitative and qualitative:
        1. Quantitative is where a 'mech's heavy use means it is highly associated with a Clan and is thus iconic (think Jade Falcons in Kit Foxes, Hellbringers, and Summoners)
   2. Qualitative is where the ‘mech embodies something about the Clan’s values, fighting style, etc., and is thus iconic (think totem 'mechs like the Bears' Kodiak, the Cats’ marksmanship pride and willingness to learn from past mistakes acknowledged in the Prime configuration of the Nova Cat, and the Blood Spirits’ love of standard fusion engines with LRM-15s and ER Large Lasers manifesting in the Blood Kite).

Both types could be considered under the OP’s go-to metric. Mechs that make up the backbone of a touman in terms of quantity are go-to ‘mechs on the face of it (see the adage about Falcons in certain 'mechs). However, less common ‘mechs can still be considered go-to ‘mechs if their possession of certain qualities means they are regularly called up and relied upon under certain circumstances (see jokes about Steiner Scout Lances).

As an aside, this approach seems to be followed in the 2020 Battle of Tukayyid book (late-REVIVAL, but it should still be helpful for the earlier parts of the invasion). The force building rules reflect both common 'mechs in use with a given Clan and less common but favored and in-demand 'mechs.

[Colt Ward]

Several sources highlight Jag tactics of frontal assault using "overwhelming numbers of heavy and assault mechs". Cassius N'Buta described them as the "heavy horse" of the clans. The Battle of Tukayyid that came out relatively recently doesn't list a single trinary lighter than "heavy" for any of the featured Jag forces.

Now, to take an earlier point to heart, maybe after the losses at Wolcott, Luthien, and Tukayyid they couldn't field that force while they rebuilt. However, cannon sources support a "hulk smash" comp and strategy at the start of the invasion.

I was the guy suggesting Custer as a Jaguar bloodname years ago.  The Jags were leap before you look before Luthien & Tukayyid, and they were that way afterwards even with the losses.  Wolcott while a loss was not a materially devastating loss.

But 'heavy horse' and 'heavy' trinaries does not mean they lacked lights or meds- pretty sure we have Jaguar warriors in fiction in those type mechs on Tukayyid (BoT book, 1st Jag mention is Ice Ferret).  Howell's story (he had a TWolf) had him leading off with two Recon Stars of his 'fastest' mechs.  His command star had a Adder and a Stormcrow.  Another trinary was led by a Khan favorite in a Cauldron Born, with another Stormcrow either in the Command Star or that trinary.  Additionally, they had what, 3 clusters? or some ridiculously small number on Tukkayid that is unfortunately not representative of their force.  Luthien gives you a much better sample- several clusters in each of several galaxies.  Now, as said further up thread, I will absolutely grant they probably shuffled mechs to increase their throw weight.

[Hellraiser]

TRO 3050u describes the Jags as fielding "many" Dire Wolves. I think Ulric just got the right to produce the Dire Wolf at their own site (Wolf Clan Site #1 on Strana Mechty), not the output from the Jag factories.

Exactly.

The Wolves lost the "Prototype-Blue prints", the Jags finished the design & put it into production.

Ulric went back & battled for the "Final Production-Blue Prints" & the right to produce them.

IIRC, It specifically says he didn't go after after the whole enchilada (Factory) because the Jags would have turned it into a bloody over bidding affair defending it with everything they had.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Eh, the Warhawk and Dire Wolf were not really that common among their forces. 

I'm struggling with a more diplomatic way to put this, but this is flat wrong. TRO 3050U was pretty explicit in both designs' prevalence in the Jaguar Touman, as others have pointed out. Pertinent quotes from both entries are as follows:

The Masakari was deployed extensively in Jaguar frontline forces and was often paired with the Daishi.

Before their annihilation, the Smoke Jaguars employed many Daishis, with which they smashed through their enemy's lines.

A single factory turning out Warhawks to that level but not after the Jags lose control of it?  If the Jaguars had a bunch of Warhawks, the Scorpions should have as well after they took the factory.  As far as the Dire Wolf- while the Jags won the design rights b/c of Showers, the Wolves won the production output thanks to Ulric.  So it being 'common' is a faux pas since they do not get the production IIRC.

A few things here. One, the Warhawk had a couple factories, the Phan site that was captured by the Fire Mandrills and the site the Scorpions won on the Abysmal continent at Rakt-Jabada, again per 3050U and Forever Faithful. The Scorpions not magically having their ranks lousy with Warhawks is an easy one, considering they owned only one site for maybe 12 years, where as the Jaguars had one if not two sites for more than 60 years. And as ManicMaestro and Hellraiser both note, it took the Wolves 9 years to muster the courage to trial for production rights to the finished Dire Wolf after they lost the design to those 6th Dragoon pansies. They didn't trial for the output of the Jaguar factory, which turned out machines for 50 years before Serpent came, it was to win the right to build it for themselves, as that was apparently the more desirable option. I dunno.

The Jaguars, unless they got more fan servicing, were not like the Bears/Lyrans where they were noted to roll out assaults- so being common among their forces still holds since they had previously been presented as being a medium/heavy dominated force.

What does the highlighted part mean?

Also, I don't think the Jaguars were ever represented as medium/heavy force. More an Assault/Medium force with competent Heavy and Light designs sprinkled in, for same reasons as above-quoted parts about the Warhawk and Dire Wolf.

[Zeruel]

Also, I don't think the Jaguars were ever represented as medium/heavy force. More an Assault/Medium force with competent Heavy and Light designs sprinkled in, for same reasons as above-quoted parts about the Warhawk and Dire Wolf.

now that you mention it, that does fit how I have usually thought of the Jag forces...

Dire Wolves and Warhawks supplemented by Mad Dogs and Stormcrows just seems very Smoke Jaguar to me

[Jellico]

Kingfisher is a Raven invention, just not sure they kept it up.

RecGuide 18
Manufacturer: Snow Raven Industrial Complex
Alpha (Dante)

[Colt Ward]

I know where it is in 3150, I meant 3000-3050 production.  It came from the Pulverizer, which was covered in TRO Golden Century IIRC.

[Apocal]

The Jaguars steady bleeding out of assets became worse with the dual arterial gashing equivalent of Luthien and Tukayyid.

OP is about 3050, before Luthien and Tukkayid.

[Colt Ward]

OP is about 3050, before Luthien and Tukkayid.

No, it is about Operation Revival, which ended with Tukayyid.

[BrianDavion]

I know where it is in 3150, I meant 3000-3050 production.  It came from the Pulverizer, which was covered in TRO Golden Century IIRC.

being based on the chassis doesn't mean they just converted it, there are a LOT of mechs based on the chassis of another. good examples include the persus, blackjack omni, etc

[Zeruel]

I know where it is in 3150, I meant 3000-3050 production.  It came from the Pulverizer, which was covered in TRO Golden Century IIRC.

TRO 3058U has the Kingfisher built at a Ghost Bear factory on Strana Mechty

*EDIT: I don't know if it specifically mentions it is a Ghost Bear factory in the TRO, but I do recall one of the writers confirming it on the forums when asked