Star Trek Discovery

[Øystein]

You've brought it upon yourselves by using all means available to avoid the revenue stream of the networks by TiVo and other means to skip the advertisments they need need for broadcast TV.

So they need to find new revenue models, and stream is that model.

[Lorcan Nagle]

Yeah, so this will be the first time a Star Trek series won't be fully broadcast on public TV. More power to CBS....

In Ireland, Star Trek hasn't been on a free to view TV channel since 1994 or so. This is nothing new outside of the US.

[Dragon Cat]

Episode 4 - the some space action finally (but all too brief) and the show gets weirder... I like it.  Even more unsure about the Discovery's weird saucer design but hey ho it is what it is.

"Particle Drive" interesting twist the ship's navigator is an interesting character

I like the Klingon storyline seems to be heading in an interesting way

[Øystein]

I loved the klingon homeage to captain Georgiou....

[Lorcan Nagle]

Didn't enjoy this one as much as the prior 3.  The meat of the plot was good - Burnham and the Tardigrade and the Klingon stuff - but pretty much everything the miners said was cheesy as hell.

[I am Belch II]

The episode was a lot more Star Trek to me then the others. The show has a lot furher to go then that to have the Star Trek feel to me. The Discovery is like a very angry dark pirate ship that does things off the grid to win a war. It almost reminds me of the Pegasus from the redo of Battlestar Galatica. Cain and Lorka have some things in common to me.

[Jaim Magnus]

Meh, this show has failed to get me to care about it in any way, shape, or form, so I'm done with it.

To those who enjoy it, I hope it continues to do so.

[Blackhorse 6]

In the THIRD episode, it's even revealed she didn't attend the Academy (much less graduate), so she's an unqualified person in what appears to have been an unearned position in the first two episodes-a position gained in the manner of a 19th century modern major general, perhaps.

Wait...wait... she is NOT an SFA grad?   :o  Even nuKirk was an SFA grad... who skipped all the grades between Cadet and Captain... but hey, he is a grad.

Ok... so... how did she get a commission?   ???

[Dragon Cat]

I think she graduated from the Vulcan Science Academy it's possible they class both as equal - for teaching wise (I'd think that would be the case)

It was also stated that she joined the ship 8 years (before the plot) IIRC so it's possible she raised through the ranks to Commander while on the ship

[Wrangler]

I think she graduated from the Vulcan Science Academy it's possible they class both as equal - for teaching wise (I'd think that would be the case)

It was also stated that she joined the ship 8 years (before the plot) IIRC so it's possible she raised through the ranks to Commander while on the ship

Wow, she attend the James Kirk School of Gifted officers?  Commander in 8 years is insane.  The original James Kirk was 35 years old when he made Captain.  The writers are really lacking in sense of reality. It takes 15-20 years to be commanding officer, she should needed maybe 10 at least.  I don't care how super ubber you are.

JJ Abrams promotion of Kirk within month to Captain was simply utterly unbelievable. There more than knowledge that comes being a commanding officer, it's experience in the field and being able to communicate/manage other people and unenlisted people.  That still goes for Star Fleet.

[Lorcan Nagle]

Wow, she attend the James Kirk School of Gifted officers?  Commander in 8 years is insane.  The original James Kirk was 35 years old when he made Captain.  The writers are really lacking in sense of reality. It takes 15-20 years to be commanding officer, she should needed maybe 10 at least.  I don't care how super ubber you are.
 

Riker went from wet behind the ears helm officer on the Pegasus to first officer on the Enterprise in 5 years.  And turned down his first command two years after that.

[Kentares]

In universe reality was thrown out the airlock some time ago...

[monbvol]

I submit Star Fleet has never had a minimum time in service requirement like there is in modern military service.

Evidence: All the times Checkov was left in command of the Enterprise in TOS.

[YingJanshi]

I think we need something to lighten things up around here. Trek isn't supposed to be depressing or divisive...

https://youtu.be/OjNKyoRudOQ

[Liam's Ghost]

I think we need something to lighten things up around here. Trek isn't supposed to be depressing or divisive...

https://youtu.be/OjNKyoRudOQ

That... was not what I expected.

[Sharpnel]

That... was not what I expected.

And that went completely over the heads of 4-6 year old kids that happened to watch it.

[Wrangler]

That... was not what I expected.

Being oBlivious to the contents, mayBE a good thing.

[HobbesHurlbut]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jldnOkg16f8
Can we talk about the fact that the actual ship (seen around 0:39 mark) is called a D7 in dialogue? Just... wow. That was the last straw, now ST:D is on my blacklist.

[Wrangler]

I think this is the first Star Trek series I'm actually not actively trying to watch.  It's too removed for me to believe this is Star Trek of the past. Seriously.

[Weirdo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jldnOkg16f8
Can we talk about the fact that the actual ship (seen around 0:39 mark) is called a D7 in dialogue? Just... wow. That was the last straw, now ST:D is on my blacklist.

So...yeah. It's angry mob time. You a torch or pitchfork kinda guy?

[pensiveswetness]

it isn't a D-7 because they cannot use a proper D-7, just like a lot of STD cannot use elements from TOS...

[roosterboy]

it isn't a D-7 because they cannot use a proper D-7, just like a lot of STD cannot use elements from TOS...

Says who?

[Lorcan Nagle]

I think this is the first Star Trek series I'm actually not actively trying to watch.  It's too removed for me to believe this is Star Trek of the past. Seriously.

Like, it's fine if you don't like Discovery, but aside from the exact swear word that Tilly used in episode 5, there's literally nothing in Discovery that hasn't been in Trek before.

[VanVelding]

Riker went from wet behind the ears helm officer on the Pegasus to first officer on the Enterprise in 5 years.  And turned down his first command two years after that.

He turned down the opportunity to command the Drake before TNG even started ("The Arsenal of Freedom"). Riker's been turning down commands since before turning down commands became cool.

[Dragon Cat]

Says who?

That's a good question Axanar which Discovery is not at all based upon couldn't but Discovery is 100% licensed Trek as far as I know

Me I like it.  Does it not use things from the past or change them a little? yes have I decided I still like show? also appears yes it has many elements of trek that we've seen countless times before a couple of wardrobe changes or CGI fixes are not enough to make me turn off

Think of it another way an old D7 beside Discovery would look stupid.  An ancient looking Discovery would not attract audiences

[HobbesHurlbut]

Does it not use things from the past or change them a little? yes have I decided I still like show? also appears yes it has many elements of trek that we've seen countless times before a couple of wardrobe changes or CGI fixes are not enough to make me turn off

Think of it another way an old D7 beside Discovery would look stupid.  An ancient looking Discovery would not attract audiences

I don't know about you but the impression I got is that they're trying to avoid TOS elements in order to not associate the show with Axanar.

[snewsom2997]

Says who?

Discovery was licensed using the JJ Abrams version of Star Trek, the movie license. Not the ToS, TNG, DS9, etc TV License. All of the ships we are familiar with and what not come from the TV License, the original Paramount License.

[Dragon Cat]

Yes and no TOS would unfortunately look like Axanar but I get the feeling they are trying to give the show it's own feel

Placing it in the past they've honestly screwed up the same storyline but set in the future would have made more sense it would have explained the tech differences the look of the ships and the differences with the Klingons

But they didn't instead they've gone for a different look which looks quite advanced but I won't judge the show on that I like how it's developing story and character wise

I often think I'd TOS or TNG was done now they'd look radically different visually it's just how CGI and filming are changing they change to suite audiences

[Dragon Cat]

Discovery was licensed using the JJ Abrams version of Star Trek, the movie license. Not the ToS, TNG, DS9, etc TV License. All of the ships we are familiar with and what not come from the TV License, the original Paramount License.

Discovery is set in the Prime universe not film reboot verse

[Weirdo]

Think of it another way an old D7 beside Discovery would look stupid.  An ancient looking Discovery would not attract audiences

Using an old D7 would look stupid. Using a spruced up D7 like a Kt'inga or some other derivative(See TMP, TNG, STVI, VOY, Into Darkness. I think DS9 went back to the old ones, and don't know if ENT ever showed any.) would have gotten you accolades from the fans.

I don't mind continuity errors. A setting that has lasted as long as Trek and been under so many writers and producers, such things are inevitable and coming up with explanations to make them fit is part of the fun of being a fan. But this? This isn't a continuity error where somebody forgot a detail and nobody on the production team caught it. This was deliberate. They knew D7 Battlecruisers. I can believe that a writer or producer knew the name but not the image, but an entire production team of such and nobody bothered to even Google the things? No. This is deliberately erasing all that came before.

At least Abrams had the bare decency to make up his own timeline.