Star Trek Discovery

[Lorcan Nagle]

I always liked Deja Q and Tapestry

[Maingunnery]

All Good Things, was one of the best uses of the Q.

[Giovanni Blasini]

"Death Wish" remains one of the best Star Trek episodes, IMO.

[ANS Kamas P81]

Q was also pretty much the perfect foil for Picard, both in character and out of character with deLancie and Stewart chewing the scenery, the script, and the crew when they're on together.  The rest of the chemistry with the cast, especially after the first season or two, really gels beautifully - as does the writing.  "Eat any good books today?"

[Kentares]

TOS: 1
TNG: ...not recalling any
Voyager: 0
DS9: A LOT (3 or 4 or so?)
Enterprise: 2 (a 2 parter, so one story)

Ruger

According to Memory Alpha:

TOS: 2 (and 1 in a "minus universe" - whatever that is)
TNG: 2 (although not specifically on the same "mirror universe" than the others - could be another parallel universe)
Voyager: 0
DS9: 5
Enterprise: 2 parter
DISCO: 5 (until now)

[Wrangler]

All this talk about the Mirror Universe, reminds me of of TNG episode, Parallels.  This was episode where Worf was being thrown around through multiple universes. They all converged into one place.  With multiple versions of Worf and Enterprise showing up.   I was wondered if they had included a Mirror Universe TNG Enterprise in that.

[Lorcan Nagle]

All this talk about the Mirror Universe, reminds me of of TNG episode, Parallels.  This was episode where Worf was being thrown around through multiple universes. They all converged into one place.  With multiple versions of Worf and Enterprise showing up.   I was wondered if they had included a Mirror Universe TNG Enterprise in that.

None of the Enterprises in that episode were explicitly the ISS Enterprise D

[gyedid]

All this talk about the Mirror Universe, reminds me of of TNG episode, Parallels.  This was episode where Worf was being thrown around through multiple universes. They all converged into one place.  With multiple versions of Worf and Enterprise showing up.   I was wondered if they had included a Mirror Universe TNG Enterprise in that.

As we saw on DS9, by that point in time, the Terran Empire had fallen and humans were subservient to the Klingon-Cardassian alliance.  So there almost certainly was no ISS Enterprise-D.

Cheers, Gabe

[HobbesHurlbut]

As we saw on DS9, by that point in time, the Terran Empire had fallen and humans were subservient to the Klingon-Cardassian alliance.  So there almost certainly was no ISS Enterprise-D.

Cheers, Gabe

But when you go into the Comic Book expanded universe, there IS an ISS Enterprise-D. Man....looking at the cover art depicting Picard as a bad guy was surreal.

[Øystein]

It's simple.

Each time someone visited the Mirror Universe, a new version of the Mirror universe branched off. This is consistent with many time travel theories. The changes between each might be small, or big.

[Daemion]

Which is why I'm still hoping that the STDisco* Prime universe is one of those offshoots to help explain the wild divergence between Klingon races.





* = Sorry. Still having fun with this acronym.

[Øystein]

Which is why I'm still hoping that the STDisco* Prime universe is one of those offshoots to help explain the wild divergence between Klingon races.

I hope not, I like the new klinks :)

[I am Belch II]

The new "Klingons" don't seem as scary looking being bald and really big heads. I hope they are a much bigger story arc for the last episodes in the season.

[roosterboy]

A picture of toenail clippers in a Walgreens weekly ad is scarier than the old-style Klingons.

[Maingunnery]

A picture of toenail clippers in a Walgreens weekly ad is scarier than the old-style Klingons.

And still they weren't able to improve them in STD.  ;)

[Kentares]

Which is why I'm still hoping that the STDisco* Prime universe is one of those offshoots to help explain the wild divergence between Klingon races.

* = Sorry. Still having fun with this acronym.

If I was a praying guy I would pray for that...

[Kentares]

A picture of toenail clippers in a Walgreens weekly ad is scarier than the old-style Klingons.

The new ones go every week to a SPA, polish their armors clothes in the wildest colors to look like a carnival parade in Rio on Sambadrome.

[roosterboy]

And still they weren't able to improve them in STD.  ;)

Who says Klingons are supposed to look scary? TOS Klingons certainly didn’t.

The new ones go every week to a SPA, polish their armors clothes in the wildest colors to look like a carnival parade in Rio on Sambadrome.

Not all of the new Klingons dress the way T’Kuvma’s people did, so... okay, whatever.

[Kentares]

Not all of the new Klingons dress the way T’Kuvma’s people did, so... okay, whatever.

I wasnt talking about one. I was talking about all of them.

[gyedid]

But when you go into the Comic Book expanded universe, there IS an ISS Enterprise-D. Man....looking at the cover art depicting Picard as a bad guy was surreal.

There's also the novel "Dark Mirror" that covers similar ground, and was interesting for its suggestion that the mirror-humans' cruelty and barbarism had deep historical roots.  But I don't think either of those are considered canon like DS9.

Cheers, Gabe

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

None of the Star Trek Expanded Universe is considered canon.

[Daemion]

Actually, if I recall rightly, the novels were supposed to be tied to their own continuity, as is the comics to its own, and the shows to their own.

[Lorcan Nagle]

Prior to the so-called relaunch books, the Trek novels only had continuity with each other where explicitly stated. So Michael Jan Freidman's books featuring the Stargazer's crew were in continuity, but no effort would be made to keep his version of the Stargazer in line with anyone else's.

Similarly, with the comics changing publishers so many times, Gold Key to IPC to Peter Pan Records to Marvel to DC to Marvel to DC/Wildstorm to Tokyopop to IDW, they generally have internal continuity but even then not always - Marvel and DC's different incarnations don't tie into one another for example.

[Weirdo]

I've been jonesing for more Prime Timeline Trek ever since Abrams decided continuity was for chumps. The relaunch novels any good?

(You can be generous with the term 'good'. I stuck with the Star Wars EU until mostly through the Vong war.)

[Lorcan Nagle]

They're very much a mixed bag, with part of the problem being that there's a lot of middling quality books that have major plot points to them. Good jumping on points would be:

Avatar book 1 and 2 - these pick up 6 months after Sisko ascended into the Celestial Temple, with life on DS9 just about back to normal before a rogue Jem'Hadar ship comes through the wormhole and kicks off a new round of chaos.  These books introduce a lot of characters who have increasing levels of importance as the books progress.

Articles of the Federation - this book kicks off slightly after Nemesis and the A Time To... series of TNG novels (which detail the Enterprise's missions between Insurrection and Nemesis, and deals with the aftermath of that movie's events).  It follows the Federation's new President on their first year in office, dealing with diplomatic and political crises.

Resistance - this is the second TNG novel set after Nemesis (the first, Death in Winter is one of those not great but has an important event ones), and details the Enterprise E's first mission after repairs are complete, as Picard gets to grips with his new senior crew members after Riker and Troi's departure.  Their shakedown cruise is interrupted by the return of the Borg, however

Star Trek Titan: Taking Wing- The first book covering Will Riker's tenure as commander of USS Titan.  While outfitting for a long-range expedition to the Large Magellanic Cloud, Titan is instead sent to Romulus in an attempt to help the government remain stable in the aftermath of Shinzon wiping out the senate in Nemesis. 

Star Trek: Destiny - A crossover trilogy in which The Borg return to the Alpha Quadrant with the goal of extermination rather than assimilation.  The events of these novels and their aftermath spread out across all the post-Nemesis novels and represent a major shift in the Trek storyline for years.

[Ruger]

They're very much a mixed bag, with part of the problem being that there's a lot of middling quality books that have major plot points to them. Good jumping on points would be:

Star Trek: Destiny - A crossover trilogy in which The Borg return to the Alpha Quadrant with the goal of extermination rather than assimilation.  The events of these novels and their aftermath spread out across all the post-Nemesis novels and represent a major shift in the Trek storyline for years.

I've only been able to find the first of these, but it was quite good...I've also read several of the Stargazer novels, the "Genesis Wave" TNG novels, along with the one where Geordi and Scotty team up again, and a few others...

I've also been enjoying the ST Enterprise novels from Kobayashi Maru, through the Romulan War novels and now with the "Rise of the Federation" series...

Then there are the original crew novels from decades ago...such as the hardcover Mission to Horatius, first of the novels to be released (back in 1968!), and the more recent series, which include some favorites such as The Final Reflection, Dreadnought! (less so, its sequel Battlestations!), Chain of Attack and its sequel, The Final Nexus, The Wounded Sky, the Rihannsu series, Kobayashi Maru (where the stories of Scotty's, Sulu's, Chekov's and, of course, Kirk's turns at taking the stated test, what they did, and the results from that)...there were other good ones, but these are favorites that come immediately to mind...

Ruger

[Lorcan Nagle]

Oh, and if you're only going to read two Trek novels, read A Stitch in Time by Andrew Robinson, in which Garak writes a series of letters to Bashir about his childhood and the work rebuilding Cardassia after the Dominion War (the childhood section is based on Robinson's character notes during the filming of the show); and The Never-Ending Sacrifice by Una McCormack, which follows Rugal Pa'Dar, the Cardassian adopted by Bajorans but returned to his birth father in the DS9 episode Cardassian after he returns to his birthworld and lives through the following years.

[Kentares]

Star Trek: Destiny - A crossover trilogy in which The Borg return to the Alpha Quadrant with the goal of extermination rather than assimilation.  The events of these novels and their aftermath spread out across all the post-Nemesis novels and represent a major shift in the Trek storyline for years.

That sounds interesting. That was one of those things I would be glad they made the new show about that I commented before.

[Ruger]

That sounds interesting. That was one of those things I would be glad they made the new show about that I commented before.

The Destiny series is also supposed to reveal the "true" origin of the Borg, if I've understood correctly...even has a tie-in to one of the images in the Star Trek Ships of the Line calendars from a few years back...

Ruger

[HobbesHurlbut]

uuuuugh....If you want spoilers just PM me for the ST: Destiny.