Looking for a listing of all Clan Aero.

[truetanker]

Not just Omni either.

All from SLDF, Royal, SLDF-in-Exile ( Klondike ), Clan ( including Invasion ), Reavings.

Anyone got a current listing other than Sarna.

Thanks,
Truetanker

[Maelwys]

What about the MUL?

[truetanker]

It's a start but limited...

I went to sarna and found every unit ever built but not for a specific clan.

I want factory production, not " They have X because a Star was won in a standard ToP. " or " X amount was traded for services rendered. " bit.

And HW Clan General also doesn't help either...

TT

PS: I have 20 Stars to fill, so I need Main ( Assualt ), Secondary ( CAP ) and Ground support roles. Mixing Points of same speed works, but again why Plain Janes when a little flava works as good!?

[Jellico]

Well to be blunt the information of" I want factory production" does not exist. Especially for the Homeworlds.

What year do you want and which Clan? Wars of Reaving might help for the Homeworlds after the 80s. SLDF, Royal, and SL in Exile won't be on production after the 2850s.

[truetanker]

Clan Stone Lion

Which means all Pre- Klondike production placed in Caches, Pre-Invasion-Invasion production currently used, CHH leaving and scraping the bottom to rebuild. To new factory productions circa 3150...

AS OF 3085 CSL was ex-CHH.

Trust me on this, I've gone over every piece of scrap that even mentions a factory or Cache output. From allsorts of books.

Klondike gave me numbers of SLDF and in-Exile, Crusader and Warden books gave me a nice breakdown of what was in production at the time of 3055. And the 3060thru WoR and Sup gave me more.

But I'm lacking in Aero... Since the Kokou was retcon'd into effect I'm wondering what else might be around?

TT

[Jellico]

Right. I am sure that I don't need to tell you that production and access are two different things. 

So if I am understanding this right you want to know which aircraft Clan Stone Lion have access to between 3085 and 3150?

There are two basic thoughts on caches.
1. They have everything.
2. All the good stuff was take out years ago leaving original TRO2750 and Star Leage vintage Introtech.

YMMV. If the Star Leage had it there is potential for CSL to have it.

2nd line Clan. We have good details on most of it. Most of it would be available if not in production.
Ammons are probably out  Tyre 3 is out. Corax is out. Hydaspes 3 is out. Persopilis is out.
Don't forget that there is a Swift and Tomahawk C.

Omnis. Most will be available through salvage is not production. Ostrogoth and Wusun are clearly out. The Golden Century Omnis are potentially there through caches.

No NL45s.

If TF Bulldog brought it there is the potential for salvage. Don't expect much. Likewise for any other IS salvage.

It is your game. Do as you like. But there are probably more ASF in the above than CSL has fighters.

Don't read too much into the Kokou. It is nice but like all the Golden Century units got cached for a reason.

[Natasha Kerensky]

This may help... also from Jellico eight-odd years back...

https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=5112.msg113901#msg113901

Part of a larger fan article series organized by Trace Coburn...

https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=1963.msg41912#msg41912

[truetanker]

I'll check them when I get time, thanks Natasha!

I already have the " Lupus " model of the NL-42 assigned.

But I understand the older SLDF / Klondike part, just wanted to know if there would be any other sources not listed...

Thanks again all,
TT

[truetanker]

Here's my info, all gleaned from Sarna...

CSL has 100% control of Bearclaw ( II to be exact ), meaning I should be able to get Aeroyard Gargain as of 3088.

CSL has 100% control of Nile and it's single Naval Slip.

CSL has 100% control of Tokasha and it's AeroWorks Epsilon.

I can find most of the SLDF /Klondike useful but want to fit a Main line fighter, Second line Support and a Ground contact aero.

Any thoughts?

Vandal A, C and E ?
Hydaspes maybe 2 ?
Issus and 2 ?
Chaeronea 3 ?
Chippewa IIC ?

TT

[Jellico]

Okay. Sarna.net tends to be wildly optimistic with who produces what.

Take Aeroyard Gargain. The only thing that they have positive cites for is Aerie and Chyosor. The rest is pure speculation. In fact it looks suspiciously like the complete list of all the ASF the Ravens possibly built at the time. (It is all 2nd line ASF so maybe not even in production. Modern variants can be refute of old fuselages)

So check and confirm Sarnas cites.