Informal poll on Battleforce Minis

[JPArbiter]

Just curious about a few things. 

1) have you purchased any Battleforce scaled Minis yet, either in the packs or in the singles

2) do you plan on purchasing them?

3) limit four designs if you could add to the line what would you add?

for me, I have purchased the inner sphere set, and I do plan on buying a some singles here and there.

as for what I would add if I could decree additions to the design  One of each class for me Panther, Centurion, Vulture, and Zeus

[F T C]

1) No.

2) NO.

3) None.

Smaller scale of mechs with less detail do not interest me, especially if they are already available.

[3rdCrucisLancers]

1) No.

2) NO.

3) None.

Smaller scale of mechs with less detail do not interest me, especially if they are already available.

Ditto. I feel like the whole Agents of Gaming B5Wars/Fleet action miniatures debacle demonstrated pretty conclusively the folly of two scales for a niche game with many units.

[scatcat]

yes
yes
I'd like to see the entire line replicated in BF scale

Our playspace is limited to a 4x8 table. Larger hexes=smaller battlefield. Games devolve into he who fields the heaviest mechs wins. BF minis fit into 1" hexes. This means you can comfortablly fit 15 mapsheets on a 4x8 table.

[truegrit]

1) have you purchased any Battleforce scaled Minis yet, either in the packs or in the singles

Not yet

2) do you plan on purchasing them?

I do

3) limit four designs if you could add to the line what would you add?

Nothing specific in mind, but I like the variety of the box sets, and I'd like to see them continue to venture outside of the more common 'Mechs.

3rdCrucisLancers has a point about the economics, but I really like the smaller 'Mechs if you subtract that issue from the equation. Smaller = cheaper and fit better on a mapsheet, especially with the size creep with the standard sized minis.

[RJM]

1) have you purchased any Battleforce scaled Minis yet, either in the packs or in the singles

No, not yet.  But only because I didn't particularly like all the miniatures that the full box sets came with, and they'd have gone to waste in my possession.

2) do you plan on purchasing them?

Yes.  Now that there are individual units available, I'll be purchasing a good handful with my next IWM order.

3) limit four designs if you could add to the line what would you add?

More of the basics (Original Omnis, IS stuff playable from 3025-3050+).  If I have to choose four specifically...?  Summoner, Dire Wolf, Warhammer, Centurion.

[Ian Sharpe]

Just curious about a few things. 

1) have you purchased any Battleforce scaled Minis yet, either in the packs or in the singles

No.

2) do you plan on purchasing them?

Maybe?  Not sure. 

3) limit four designs if you could add to the line what would you add?

Wraith, PXH, Warhawk, Stormcrow.

[Stormlion1]

1) have you purchased any Battleforce scaled Minis yet, either in the packs or in the singles: No

2) do you plan on purchasing them?: Not sure at this time

3) limit four designs if you could add to the line what would you add?:The only one I want to see is the Devastator  ;)

[serrate]

1) have you purchased any Battleforce scaled Minis yet, either in the packs or in the singles

Nope, although I had a few (Atlas, Nexus, Gallowglas, Kodiak) from their original production experiment with these minis some years ago.  I was also given a few of the Battlemasters as a promotional item/gift.

2) do you plan on purchasing them?

Yes, eventually.  They're BT minis so how could I resist?  ;)

3) limit four designs if you could add to the line what would you add?

Eh, I don't know.  Might matter more to me if I ever played BF rules.  I'd prefer that effort go to more mech-scale minis, faster.  Not like we've run out of minis to sculpt.  :)

[Wolf Lancer 4]

Im going to have to chime in with 3CL here.  I really dont see the point of the minis. 

"But their used for BF!  Dont you understand?!"

*plops a full size Gargoyle down on the map*  "There.  That mini represents my Clan Wolf Assault Star."


The simple fact of the matter is that you can easily just use your regular BT minis to represent your Stars, Lances, and Level IIs. 

They are without a doubt a niche product that only a few people will purchase on the grand scheme of things.  I know some people like them and want them, but I am not one of those people.  I also want begrudge anybody who wants them.  They just arent for me.

On the other hand however they seriously need to add some "better represenative" mechs for the Clans.  A Kodiak and a Mad Cat Mk II to represent Assault Stars?  Hellion, and Ice Ferret?  More generic mechs for the Clans would have been much better in my book.  Mechs like the Adder, Stormcrow, Mad Dog, Dire Wolf and even the Gargoyle.  Simply put in my eyes the Clan line of BF minis needs a much better selection.

Thats my two Kerenskies...

[Humansquish]

1. Yes, I have both the Clan and IS packs.
2. I may purchase more if they are available in singles
3. Blitzkrieg, Grand Titan, Cauldron Born, Awesome

[Psycho]

No, no, and don't care. I've got regular 'Mechs, Protos and BA for smaller minis, ASFs, and Warships to keep me occupied. The smaller 'Mechs just don't interest me.

[klarg1]

1) No
2) No
3) I don't think I get a vote.

I love the idea of the Battleforce Minis. I think they're a great idea, but I have such a huge investment of both time and money in 'mech scale forces already that I can't really see myself switching, and I don't need both.

[Dr Lucky]

1 - No
2 - No
3 - N/A

I am invested in the current scale and I'm not interested in working in another scale.  I don't have enough time to paint or play as it is, I plan to keep spending what time (and money, of course) on the miniatures that match what I already have.  Additionally, even if I wasn't already invested, I prefer larger miniatures.

[Alex Keller]

1. No. (Note - I am a big fan of the micro fighters)
2. No, because I've already got the 6mm 1/300 scale miniatures.  Why should I get smaller ones?
3. I wish IWM would concentrate on getting more of the normal scale minatures out. 

[Col.Hengist]

1) no

2) I really like the idea of them, i think it's a great concept. Unfortunatly i'll have to go with 3CL's indea. I'd buy them if i didn't already own so many of the regular sized ones and am invested in this size.

3) If i were to suggest 4 - Penetrater,Crimson Langur,Hector( heck i want a regular size one of them first),Penthisilia.

[I am Belch II]

Just curious about a few things. 

1) have you purchased any Battleforce scaled Minis yet, either in the packs or in the singles

2) do you plan on purchasing them?

3) limit four designs if you could add to the line what would you add?

for me, I have purchased the inner sphere set, and I do plan on buying a some singles here and there.

as for what I would add if I could decree additions to the design  One of each class for me Panther, Centurion, Vulture, and Zeus

No
Yes
I would like to see the WOB's Omni's.

[Shi_no_Kami]

1) No.

2) NO.

3) None.

Smaller scale of mechs with less detail do not interest me, especially if they are already available.

Cut and paste works fine for my answers.

[Cergorach]

1.) No
2.) Yes
3.) Classic IS and Clan designs: Vulture, Locust, etc.

[speck]

There are some new Inner sphere and clan mini mech coming out next year.

[Sartris]

1 no
2 no
3 n/a

[skumm]

1) yes
2) already have em all (Im a completist)
3) clan mechs...

[Lord Cameron]

1) have you purchased any Battleforce scaled Minis yet, either in the packs or in the singles

Are these IWM?
Is there a link?

[worktroll]

Re the poll ....

1) No.

2) Not likely to - too much invested in 1:285 scale stuff (not just 'Mechs, but vehicles, infantry, etc)

3) Clan Nova, Uller, Hellbringer, Black Lanner

W.

[Force of Nature]

1. No
2. No.
3. None

I agree with 3CL also.

The smaller scale is just a big business mistake.

[Rebel Yell]

Yes all the way.  Smaller is better.

[jimdigris]

I have them.  But I'd go with something else for Battleforce.  I'd prefer a smaller scale of minis that would fit a lance or star on one hexbase that represents a given weight class.

[E. Icaza]

1. No
2. No
3. None

I also agree with 3CL and others.  Smaller 'Mechs are of no interest to me.  If I want to portray a Heavy 'Mech/Lance/Star, I'll just pull out one of the many CBT minis I have.  I won't go looking for dedicated BF minis.

[JadeHellbringer]

Just curious about a few things. 

1) have you purchased any Battleforce scaled Minis yet, either in the packs or in the singles

2) do you plan on purchasing them?

3) limit four designs if you could add to the line what would you add?

for me, I have purchased the inner sphere set, and I do plan on buying a some singles here and there.

as for what I would add if I could decree additions to the design  One of each class for me Panther, Centurion, Vulture, and Zeus

1) I have not.

2) I don't really see the need for them, to be honest. I gave it some thought, but after viewing them in person at Historicon, I decided I just don't need to go that route- I have a fine selection of minis in the standard scale.

3) I admit, some of the choices made in the two sets were a little strange. The Zeus, the Vulture, both come to mind, but aren't likely to get me to buy them- merely as a suggestion for things that will sell to others.

[Atlas3060]

1. Not yet
2. Maybe
3. Pick four of the old 3039 designs, yeah those will do I really don't care.

Although I like the idea of Battleforce getting coverage I don't know if this was the right way to go about it.
Instead of making half scaled minis for Battleforce how about just scaling down normal 'Mechs that are too big to fit on hexes?
Quads I'm looking at you!

[KolonelK]

1) No
2) Yes
3) If possible, I'd buy anything available and get rid of my existing minis.  Then rare earth magnet them, and play vertically on the fridge on scaled down maps :)

[Southern Coyote]

Just curious about a few things. 

1) have you purchased any Battleforce scaled Minis yet, either in the packs or in the singles

2) do you plan on purchasing them?

3) limit four designs if you could add to the line what would you add?

for me, I have purchased the inner sphere set, and I do plan on buying a some singles here and there.

as for what I would add if I could decree additions to the design  One of each class for me Panther, Centurion, Vulture, and Zeus

1.) No. 

2.) Maybe.  I'm still not sure what I think about the Battleforce system.  It looks intriguing but I can't seem to drum up any interest in it.

3.) Not sure.  For such small pieces, I'm not sure if there are any minis I'd be dying to have.

[phlop]

1. No
2. No
3. None

[Brother Jim]

Just curious about a few things. 

1) have you purchased any Battleforce scaled Minis yet, either in the packs or in the singles

2) do you plan on purchasing them?

3) limit four designs if you could add to the line what would you add?

for me, I have purchased the inner sphere set, and I do plan on buying a some singles here and there.

as for what I would add if I could decree additions to the design  One of each class for me Panther, Centurion, Vulture, and Zeus

1) No. Didn't know they were available singly.

2) Probably buy one or two to check them out. Anyone know why the Jenner IIC isn't available as a single?

3) Legacy, Awesome, Wraith and Mad Dog.

[Lysenko]

Privyet!

1. No.
2. Maybe
3. Vindicator, Highlander, Grand Dragon, Zeus

[thefiddler]

1. Not yet no, cuz I only know 1 other person who has some, so it might be difficult to use them.

2. At some point I'd like to pick both up and play through Starter Fist and Falcon.

3. Maybe some more of the classics, but ones that will be usable through a variety of periods like the Project Phoenix mechs and 3050 Omnis.

[Pawprint]

For me:

>> 1) have you purchased any Battleforce scaled Minis yet, either in the packs or in the singles
Yes - three copies of each pack (IS and Clan).

>> 2) do you plan on purchasing them?
Yes - individually from now on (a.k.a. see above   :) ).

>> 3) limit four designs if you could add to the line what would you add?
Four is rather restrictive, but I'll try. For both I'd want widely-used, older designs - suitable for use in several eras of play. So...

Inner Sphere: Archer, Warhammer, Phoenix Hawk, Awesome.
Clan: Mad Dog (Vulture), Stormcrow (Ryoken), Summoner (Thor), Executioner (Gladiator).

NB: The Warhammer edged out the Marauder only because I prefer the former's Re-Seen look.

Several posters in this thread have decided not to get these things because of their investment in the regular-scale minis. While I can accept that argument, I have no problem with using either scale for both Total Warfare and BattleForce games. Smaller figures allow proportionately larger play areas (as scatcat said) and ordinary-scale Mechs work just as well to represent a BF lance (as several people said).

I can think of a few more uses rather than *just* BF games, namely:

(1) Test dummies. Some paint schemes are easily imagined while others are hard to get "just right", especially if you plan to paint an ordinary-scale company in those colors   ;) . Better to wreck a $5.00 figure than a $15.00 one.

(2) Fog of War. I know I'm going to have a few lances/stars of identical Mini Mechs in matching paint schemes - they'll make much prettier "dummy counters" for simulating hidden movement or double-blind play without needing three identical terrain boards.

(3) ProtoMech proxies. Again a matter of personal taste, but I hate the "monstrous" look of the original Protos (although the new ones from Wars of Reaving/TRO: Prototypes are much better). I can also use BA minis to proxy as Protos for the Mini Mechs at BF scale.

(4) Solaris VII duels. Aside from two Mini Mechs plausibly being able to occupy the same hex (or at least poke their feet into the same hex), the smaller scale lets me run two or four duels on a single 6'x4' terrain board. This should help if my gaming venue gets crowded with other games or if I have trouble getting enough battles played to run a plausible Solaris league campaign (always a long shot, but I can dream, right?   ;) ).

[SteveUK]

1. Yes
2. got em
3. IS - Warhammer, Marauder, Hammerhands, Highlander
    Clan -  Ryoken, Highlander IIC, Warhammer IIC, Marauder IIC.

[wackrabbit]

1. Yes.
2. Got them.
3. Basic Clan Omnis and IS meat and potatoes first.

@3CL, you said you are not interested in smaller mins with less detail. I would have to ask how you would like smaller minis with the same or better level of sculpting. I am really impressed by the quality of these.

My goal is not just to use these for BF, but for Inner Sphere in Flames. Imagine a map like in Axis and Allies or Succession Wars, where the counters for the regiments/Brigades.RCTs are replaced by one mini each in the canon scheme with the unit information around the base.

Sick and twisted, but I try to keep a foot outside my comfort zone where possible.

[packhntr]

I haven't purchased any ......YET...but plan to soon....I am planning on acquiring all of the mini-mini's that they have.  I love a painting challenge!!!  (Yes, I am crazy......so what?)

[3rdCrucisLancers]

@3CL, you said you are not interested in smaller mins with less detail. I would have to ask how you would like smaller minis with the same or better level of sculpting. I am really impressed by the quality of these.

I still wouldn't be interested; there's already a pre-existing mammoth line of CBT miniatures, and it will be years and years before the smaller scale could catch up.

[Brother Jim]

Can anyone take a comparison pic with a normal size mini and a BF mini??
Preferably either a BattleMaster or a Nova Cat, as I have those handy.

Thanks.

[HavocTheWarDog]

1: NO!
2: NO!
3: NO!
What would be the point it would only take away from the limited funds I have for the ever price expanding "regular" minis!

[wackrabbit]

Can anyone take a comparison pic with a normal size mini and a BF mini??
Preferably either a BattleMaster or a Nova Cat, as I have those handy.

Thanks.

Done.

[Brother Jim]

Thanks

[Sagan]

Yes to all of the questions. As for what next I would like to see the entire line done.

[Sigma]

I bought them to make a little chess board for battletech. I have zero interest in them for anything else. I already collect 2 Battletech scales religiously and dabble in a third so that's enough.

[Sagan]

  Well good times are coming to the BF scale fans in March and in April. I just saw these up on the pre order list for FRP Games. IS lace packs one and  two. Also, Clan Star packs one and two. Apparently the following new mechs will be in them: Fafnir, Hunchback, Warhammer, Panther, Daishi, Thor, Dasher, Masakari, Black Hawk, and Ryoken. Yep good times and my wallet will hate me. Man I do hope these will keep coming our way.  :D >:D [drool]

[blackjack]

1) have you purchased any Battleforce scaled Minis yet, either in the packs or in the singles
Not yet
2) do you plan on purchasing them?
Yes
3) limit four designs if you could add to the line what would you add?

Hunchback, vindicator , wasp , shadowhawk

[Maingunnery]

  Well good times are coming to the BF scale fans in March and in April. I just these up on the pre order list for FRP Games.IS lace packs one and  two. Also, Clan Star packs one and two. Apparently the following new mechs will be in them: Fafnir, Hunchback, Warhammer, Panther, Daishi, Thor, Dasher, Masakari, Black Hawk, and Ryoken. Yep good times and my wallet will hate me. Man I do hope these will keep coming our way.  :D >:D [drool]

Well this likely means that I am going to buy some. :)

[HeavyGun]

I bought both the IS and Clan thinking they were normal size and were just a deal trying to peeps back into the game. When I ordered them thru the game shop all they had was a small picture of them so really couldn't make out how big they were. Well any way if you breath on some of them you'll break their legs(madcat, MkII, etc). Had to mod mine to make them playable.

[Sagan]

What I really want to see next? Well I would have to break the list up in a Clan list and a Inner Sphere list.
Clan: Hellstar, Night Wolf, Omen, Vulture, Deimos, Thunderbolt IIc
Inner Sphere: Marauder II, Razorback, Titan II, Awesome 8Q, Zues, War Dog

[wackrabbit]

I'll take the Ost 'mechs for i.s. along with some Star League types for Royals and other Klondike goodness. For clans just crank out the rest of the omnis. 

[Sagan]

 Greetings to everyone who is keeping an eye on this topic. From a very good source we will be seeing some more Battleforce Minis in May of 2012. Two additional packs will be released that will include four new sculpts. The minis are as follows: Marauder, Raptor, Archangel, and Wraith. Yep, I will have to see how my wallet is going to take all this. But like I said this is pretty firm information.

[scatcat]

Any idea what else will go into the nascent company/binary?

[Sagan]

No. But I heard that there will be more.

[Kovax]

In reply to the original question, I might have been tempted if I didn't already have such a significant investment in the larger scale.  As it is, I have no interest in buying them.

[Rommel_Twee]

From a very good source we will be seeing some more Battleforce Minis in May of 2012. Two additional packs will be released that will include four new sculpts. The minis are as follows: Marauder, Raptor, Archangel, and Wraith. Yep, I will have to see how my wallet is going to take all this. But like I said this is pretty firm information.

[drool]

 :o I honestly am surprised that these are going as far as they are. I only say this because myself and several others presented this to IWM back in 2003 and it was shot down. Shot down because it was felt that another scale of the same minis would take away from the other established line. If IWM and crew can manufacture these and make money, then more power to them. Still surprised.

Kirk

[Sagan]

 When the BF minis first came out nobody thought that they would sell but now other players are picking them up to play in quick strike.

[beachhead1985]

1) No
2) No
3) none

[yergerjo]

The big draw for me to the BF sized minis is the simple fact of packaged sales. Spending $30-$40 and getting 10-12 minis is a great sales value.

I likely will purchase both sets to use for Fist and Falcon, but I have most of the Clan mechs used for that already...while I am missing the IS mechs. I'd get them and use them for normal Battletech as well since when has scale ever mattered for Battletech?

[JHaygood]

Yes

Yes

Any and all

[sharkbait]

I'm certainly interested in the BF scale minis since I don't have any BT minis yet. Has anyone measured any them or could someone measure them? I'm interested in just how big small they really are. I've seen the comparison pics between these and the regular minis, but I'm more of a hard numbers kind of person.

Thank you!

[Sagan]

Sharkbait- Let me know which ones you want measured.

[sharkbait]

Sharkbait- Let me know which ones you want measured.

Really any of them would be fine. Maybe the largest one and the smallest one. I just want an idea of the range of sizes.

Thank you!

[Sagan]

With what I have in front of me right now to paint. Dervish = 1", Legionnaire = 1 1/16", Atlas = 1 3/8", Nexus II = 13/16", Battlemaster = 1 1/2", and Mad Cat MK II = 1 3/8". Hope this helps you out guy.

[Southern Coyote]

I got mine (both Clan and I.S.) for Christmas and just finished assembling them.  These are not for the impatient.  Their size and sculpt make them incredibly fragile and extremely difficult to assemble.  It took me several hours to assemble each one.  The Barghest in particular is difficult since it comes in 7 pieces.

I am thankful that I have them and will use them when I can, but I probably won't be investing anymore money or time into them.  After these are painted, I can pretty much say that I won't be buying anymore of them. 

[yergerjo]

I am thankful that I have them and will use them when I can, but I probably won't be investing anymore money or time into them.  After these are painted, I can pretty much say that I won't be buying anymore of them.

Why would you not purchase more of them? Is it the tinyness for painting? The challenge for construction?

[Southern Coyote]

Their small size, which makes them extremely difficult to assemble and incredibly fragile...

[M-Rex]

1) No.

2) NO.

3) None.

Smaller scale of mechs with less detail do not interest me, especially if they are already available.

This.

They are interesting in concept, and I like what's out already, but probably not a really big seller.

[serrate]

Greetings to everyone who is keeping an eye on this topic. From a very good source we will be seeing some more Battleforce Minis in May of 2012. Two additional packs will be released that will include four new sculpts. The minis are as follows: Marauder, Raptor, Archangel, and Wraith. Yep, I will have to see how my wallet is going to take all this. But like I said this is pretty firm information.

I was at IWM last Friday and was shown a couple more additional sculpts (masters ready for mold creation).  Also, one of the original clan mechs is getting a resculpt.  No one swore me to secrecy, but I want to make sure I'm not speaking out of turn.  I'll post the names once I hear back from the guy I spoke to.

Edit: That was fast.  :)  I saw a new Battleforce scale Hunchback, as well as a resculpt of the Jenner IIC.  Also saw the Wraith mentioned above.  All were excellent!  While I don't particularly need a new scale, the level of detail is impressive.  I introduced the game to some new players last week, and these mech packs are also a very good way for a new person to get their collection started.  If I had to choose between the new BF scale minis or the Starter Box plastics, these minis win easily.

[Sagan]

Good to hear that the minis are being done